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Old 06-13-2003, 04:27 PM   #241
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Thank you Sophia.
coats of mail
Swords
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Old 06-13-2003, 05:49 PM   #242
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Is the odd item out an axe, because it is never been used as a weapon ‘ as far as I know’ by an elf?
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Old 06-13-2003, 06:03 PM   #243
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Good guess but not quite
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Old 06-14-2003, 12:14 AM   #244
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Harps because they are not weapons

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Coats of armor because they have never been carried by hand into battle (rather, worn)
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Old 06-14-2003, 06:26 AM   #245
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Don't dig so deep
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Old 06-14-2003, 09:45 AM   #246
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Elves never use axes?
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Old 06-14-2003, 11:27 AM   #247
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That may be true [spent a couple of hours looking for an example] but not what I am looking for. please try again [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-14-2003, 12:53 PM   #248
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Bows are the only ones where the actual weapon is not thrown or used by hand . . . projectiles . . .
(Axes, by the way, were used in at least one instance by Elves: in Gondolin the house of Meglin "fought with axes two-headded like mattocks.")
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Old 06-14-2003, 01:09 PM   #249
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Coats of mail because all the others have been used as weapons, or sorts of weapons by the Elves. Finrod used the harp as a weapon to enchant the Beorians (although probably not intentionally).
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Old 06-14-2003, 02:20 PM   #250
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Ok ,a hint, What I am looking for is what they are not how they are used
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Old 06-14-2003, 02:23 PM   #251
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Coats of mail because they are worn, not carried.
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Old 06-14-2003, 04:33 PM   #252
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A bow is the only one made of wood, or not made of metal
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Old 06-14-2003, 05:27 PM   #253
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Some bows are made from dragon horn
coats of mail
swords
spears
bows
axes
harps
hint....
belt of pearls and crystal
gems
a belt crusted with scarlet stones
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Old 06-14-2003, 09:40 PM   #254
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Bows were the only ones not mentioned in Smaug's hoard.
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Old 06-15-2003, 03:46 AM   #255
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Thank you
Now i know what a dentist feels like
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Old 06-16-2003, 10:25 PM   #256
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Well, you made it kinda easy there with that hint...

pot
pan
drinking vessel
beer mug

The first two are according to the movies. I'm not sure if that certain part is in the books or not.
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Old 06-17-2003, 04:24 AM   #257
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Sam did not carry a beer mug?
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Old 06-17-2003, 10:40 AM   #258
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Nope.
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Old 06-24-2003, 03:22 AM   #259
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Sat through PJ's "eye candy "twice, only thing I could come up with is that there were no pots in the Prancing Pony scene.
Time for a hint ?
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Old 06-24-2003, 11:24 AM   #260
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Well, I feel duty bound to try to answer a question about pots and pans. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

On the basis that Sam used either a pot or a pan as a weapon in the film (in the fight scene at Balin's tomb), I will hazard a guess that they were all used as weapons, except ... hmm ... the beer mug (didn't Turin throw a drnking vessel at Saeros?).
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Old 07-01-2003, 08:54 PM   #261
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That's it! I included the drinking vessel since that was Turin's weapon, and I assume that there were no beer mugs in Doriath, so that would be the difference. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 07-02-2003, 06:15 PM   #262
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Thanks, Lindol. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 07-02-2003, 06:58 PM   #263
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Uh, bacon is yummy and eatable, and the others are not (or at least they shouldn't be...). Well, ale is technically drinkable, not edible...
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Old 07-03-2003, 12:22 AM   #264
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The 'brass buttons' seem to hint at Hobbits, so I'll say bones -- Hobbits do not seem to have much interest in them. Either that or swords for the same reason (I said bones first because swords were of course used by some hobbits).
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Old 07-03-2003, 06:33 AM   #265
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I will guess bones, because I believe, though I haven't checked, that they were one thing that Bilbo didn't wish he access to at any point on his travels.

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Old 07-03-2003, 06:39 AM   #266
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No, no and no. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]
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Perhaps brass buttons then, because Bilbo did not win them through his adventure (he got gold ones instead, you'll remember) although I can't remember 'bones' being in the list.

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Old 07-04-2003, 05:19 AM   #268
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No books in Roast Mutton
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Old 07-04-2003, 02:22 PM   #269
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all those itmes were found in the Trolls cave except bacon or books
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Alquadae and Gil-Galad, the combination of your answers produces the correct answer. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

All those items are mentioned in Roast Mutton except books. But more specifically, they were all present in the Trolls' cave except books (which is what I was looking for). Bacon was one of the items of food that the company took from the cave to bolster their flagging supplies.

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Old 07-05-2003, 04:57 AM   #271
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Old 07-05-2003, 09:28 AM   #272
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okay here i go

Silmarils
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Taunts; the only thing that could not inflict actual physcial damage. Although I wouldn't personally classify it as an 'item'.
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Old 07-06-2003, 10:25 AM   #274
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but they would have wrote it somewhere
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Old 07-06-2003, 10:32 AM   #275
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Taunts and eagle talons make me think of the Silmarillion, but also the Hobbit. Argh. I'll say Silmarils, because they weren't involved in the torture of Maedhros.(I think and hope. Otherwise I've made a complete fool of myself.)

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Morgoth was never hurt by a spear. He endured all the other kinds of "harmful items".
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I,ll give this a whirl
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Lindolirian is correct! please do continue
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