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Old 06-16-2019, 03:27 AM   #2881
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Give me nice, warm hints for yours so I can solve yours, and I'll do that for you.
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:27 AM   #2882
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:36 AM   #2883
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Just a quick one this time.

It's red and open,
But not sore.
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:39 AM   #2884
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:42 AM   #2885
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It may be just a quick one, but it *is* Tolkien-themed!
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:44 AM   #2886
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The maw of Carcharoth?
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:54 AM   #2887
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Better!

But no, not a maw of any kind.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:06 AM   #2888
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The house with the red door in the Shire?
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:08 AM   #2889
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I can't think of one of those!

Clever, though.

But not a door.

Think of red things.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:09 AM   #2890
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Oh, I see. Red book?
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:45 AM   #2891
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Ooooh, that's a good guess! Books can be open, as doors can.

Not what I'm looking for, though.

Now, your last two answers were things in the Shire.

I am thinking of a thing, at a certain time and place. The place *is* actually the Shire, but not for long.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:51 AM   #2892
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I was so sure it would be Red Book of Westmarch......
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:55 AM   #2893
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Well, the actual answer is pretty cool as well.
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Old 06-16-2019, 05:03 AM   #2894
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I can't think of any other red things which can be opened.....maybe a box of some kind.....
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Old 06-16-2019, 05:43 AM   #2895
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All right, I'll give it to you. It's Sam's emergency can of baked beans. (Now you know what really kept the Black Riders off ... poo-eeeee!!!) (Sorry, couldn't resist).

No, not really.

It's not a thing that can *be* opened. It is a thing that someone is finally being open *about.*
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Old 06-16-2019, 06:47 AM   #2896
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Narya, the ring of fire. Gandalf wore it openly after Sauron was defeated.
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:11 AM   #2897
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Narya, the ring of fire. Gandalf wore it openly after Sauron was defeated.
Indeed, and probably for the first time on the way to the Havens, to honour the Ring-Bearers. That is the first (and only) time it's mentioned in LOTR, anyway - when Frodo sees it on Gandalf's hand.

It's also the first time Narya and Vilya are even *named!*

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Old 06-16-2019, 07:41 AM   #2898
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This one plays off Nerwen's latest riddle


Thou shalt guide me
And I shalt be thy guard
And so he spoke
But in the end it was the other way 'round

I was near
I saw it take flight
I shalt be a guard to what I hold dear
He shalt be a guide of my heart
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:28 AM   #2899
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Shield I have been summoned

Well, could this be Merry, referring to Théoden?
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Old 06-18-2019, 11:46 AM   #2900
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When did Theoden say he'll be Merry's guard?
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:46 PM   #2901
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When did Theoden say he'll be Merry's guard?
Sorry, I'm getting confused as to who is actually being referred to, throughout.
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It's not changing perspective between verses, then?
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:36 AM   #2903
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It kinda sounds like some combination of Frodo, Sam, and Gollum, but I can't pin them down to specifics.

I wonder whether 'And so he spoke' is necessarily what it sounds like. It could be the speaker of the first two lines - or it could a third party making some kind of speech, as a marker of time.

'I saw it take flight' - what can 'it' be? There's a few flying entities in Middle-earth, but I'm wondering at something like an arrow - or the Ring?

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It kinda sounds like some combination of Frodo, Sam, and Gollum, but I can't pin them down to specifics.

I wonder whether 'And so he spoke' is necessarily what it sounds like. It could be the speaker of the first two lines - or it could a third party making some kind of speech, as a marker of time.

'I saw it take flight' - what can 'it' be? There's a few flying entities in Middle-earth, but I'm wondering at something like an arrow - or the Ring?

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Arrow is the closest, though there are other similar things that can 'take flight'. 'And so he spoke' does indeed refer to the speaker of first two lines, which are more or less a paraphrase of the book text.
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Old 06-20-2019, 03:14 AM   #2906
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Arrow is the closest, though there are other similar things that can 'take flight'.
Of course! The boomerang-flingers of Far Harad!

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Old 06-20-2019, 03:18 AM   #2907
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Of course! The boomerang-flingers of Far Harad!

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Old 06-20-2019, 07:27 AM   #2908
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Oh, hang on. Is this Aredhel speaking of Maeglin?

"Thou shalt guide me/And I shalt be thy guard" - Maeglin saying 'hey Mum, let's go visit your brother; look, I've nicked Dad's sword!'
And so he spoke
But in the end it was the other way 'round

I was near/I saw it take flight - Aredhel sees Eol throwing his... dart? Oh, it's a javelin. Is this is the only javelin in Middle-earth?
I shalt be a guard to what I hold dear - she's guarding Maeglin's life.
He shalt be a guide of my heart - um... because she loves him?

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Yes. and those are the words Maeglin actually sšpoke in the book. *Youćll be my guide, and I'll be your guard.*

And yes, she loves him. Why would she not?

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Of course she loves him - I just wasn't sure if you were looking for something more specific.

Right, I've put a lot of work, and a lot of research into this one to make it absolutely perfect. Here goes:

9
7


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Is it 9 divided by 7?

Either way, makes me think of 9 mannish rings and 7 dwarven rings......and the line could mean One Ring. In other words, the rings is whose making Sauron had a hand, so to speak.
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Or:

3 × 3 ships
1 white tree
7 stones (P)alantiri or stars

brought by the Faithful of Numenor to Middle-earth.
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Is it 9 divided by 7?
It is not. Find another way of saying it.

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Either way, makes me think of 9 mannish rings and 7 dwarven rings......and the line could mean One Ring. In other words, the rings is whose making Sauron had a hand, so to speak.
One of these 3 things is (very nearly) the right reference.

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Or:

3 × 3 ships
1 white tree
7 stones (P)alantiri or stars

brought by the Faithful of Numenor to Middle-earth.
That's really good.

Totally wrong, but really good.

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If one of Urwen's was nearly right, could it be 'deathlessness?'

9 Ringwraiths
1 Man becomes immortal (Tuor)
7 Durins, one of them 'Deathless?'
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If one of Urwen's was nearly right, could it be 'deathlessness?'

9 Ringwraiths
1 Man becomes immortal (Tuor)
7 Durins, one of them 'Deathless?'
9 is the Ringwraiths.

What does the riddle say about them?

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You said find another way of saying it.

Nine over seven?

Nine by seven? (Like dy by dx).

The Nine could have been done in by seven if 5 eagles went for them on Mount Doom, Eowyn and Merry being the other 2.
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You said find another way of saying it.

Nine over seven?

Nine by seven? (Like dy by dx).

The Nine could have been done in by seven if 5 eagles went for them on Mount Doom, Eowyn and Merry being the other 2.
'Nine over seven' is the riddle.

Halfway there!

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Did the Nine cross seven bridges, or borders?
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Did the Nine cross seven bridges, or borders?
They crossed seven something, right enough.

Someone else is also said to have crossed the same seven.

Well, not said.

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