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R.R.J Tolkien 01-19-2021 07:55 PM

Where did beorn and Radagast meet?
 
Beorn said radagast was not bad for a wizard, so they must have met, but where?

Kuruharan 01-19-2021 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by R.R.J Tolkien (Post 729791)
Beorn said radagast was not bad for a wizard, so they must have met, but where?

We can't know for sure.

They lived in the same general neighborhood for a long time so any number of places in western Mirkwood or the Anduin valley are possible.

Huinesoron 01-20-2021 03:48 AM

Purest speculation, but given that we know of Radagast that he "became enamoured of the many beasts and birds that dwelt in Middle-earth, and forsook Elves and Men, and spent his days among wild creatures," it's entirely possible they only met while Beorn was a bear. I wouldn't go so far as to suggest Radagast didn't know he was also human, but the reason they got on might be that the wizard thought of him as a beast first and foremost.

Even more speculative: the idea of an immortal hermit who cares for all animals is pretty common in fiction (Medwyn of Prydain was my first thought, but I ran across another instance in, of all things, Terry Pratchett's Carpet People recently), and I suspect it has mythic origins. Radagast would fit neatly into this category - the movies do so (hi Sebastian) - and so it would be plausible that Beorn was drawn to him after being injured in some way. Quite what could wound the Great Bear that badly, I'm not sure - though there were sorcerous powers at work in Dol Guldur...

...

Okay, no, I'm not writing a story about Radagast healing Beorn of a Morgul-wound. I refuse.

hS

Inziladun 01-20-2021 10:20 AM

I'm inclined to agree with Kuru.

Probably just the nearness of Rhosgobel to Beorn would be enough to assure likely contact.
Also, presumably Radagast had made an abode there for quite some time, so Beorn's predecessors could have known of him as well.

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 729793)
Okay, no, I'm not writing a story about Radagast healing Beorn of a Morgul-wound. I refuse.

If you were doing that, you may as well go whole-hog and have Radagast be a forest-dwelling hippie riding on giant rabbits. (*cough*) ;)

Galadriel55 01-20-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 729795)
If you were doing that, you may as well go whole-hog and have Radagast be a forest-dwelling hippie riding on giant rabbits. (*cough*) ;)

Look on the bright side. It could have been saber-toothed guinea pigs.

Morthoron 01-20-2021 05:25 PM

Starbucks. They met at a Starbucks. I'm sure there was one in Rhosgobel and another by Carrock. And another in Laketown. The only one that closed was in the Withered Heath. The franchise just couldn't stay profitable there.

Inziladun 01-20-2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Morthoron (Post 729797)
The only one that closed was in the Withered Heath. The franchise just couldn't stay profitable there.

According to the Annals of Arabica, they made an impressive Worm-berry Frappuccino

Huinesoron 01-21-2021 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 729795)
If you were doing that, you may as well go whole-hog and have Radagast be a forest-dwelling hippie riding on giant rabbits. (*cough*) ;)

"Upon his greying head sat a wide-brimmed hat, and descending from it was a trail of bird poop; for this was Radagast the Brown, and birds used his head as a toilet." ~J.R.R. Tolkien, probably

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Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 729798)
According to the Annals of Arabica, they made an impressive Worm-berry Frappuccino

Bet that was popular with that one dwarf who practically drowned himself in coffee:

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Originally Posted by The Hobbit: An Unexpected Party
Some called for ale, and some for porter, and one for coffee, and all of them for cakes; so the hobbit was kept very busy for a while.

A big jug of coffee had just been set in the hearth, the seed-cakes were gone...

Since the cakes were gone, I assume that's his second jug of the stuff... :D

hS

Mithadan 02-03-2021 04:47 PM

When I saw the title of this thread, I knew I would be laughing before I finished reading...

Mithalwen 02-05-2021 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Morthoron (Post 729797)
Starbucks. They met at a Starbucks. I'm sure there was one in Rhosgobel and another by Carrock. And another in Laketown. The only one that closed was in the Withered Heath. The franchise just couldn't stay profitable there.

No, no, no. They met in the pub. The ancient Pub name “The bear and ragged staff “ is evidence of this being a corruption of Beorn and Radagast’s staff”. The bear and Ragged Staff is also the crest of the county of Warwickshire. Tolkien grew up in Warwickshire. Tolkien likes pubs. It is all symbolic and a code indicating the origins of Tom Bombadil and the location of the Enwives and who Gil-galad’s daddy really was. But it is SECRET so I can’t tell you and only I have noticed.*nods wisely*


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