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Urwen 02-08-2023 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 736569)
Hopefully not sick!


1. NAROG - born at Eithel Ivrin

3. NEN LALAITH?

7. SEA?


7 is close, but also wrong.

Urwen 02-08-2023 02:03 PM

1. NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
2. Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
3. NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
4. A line of defense was here. (4)
5. Green, and one of the six. (3)
6. The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
7. It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

Pervinca Took 02-08-2023 08:42 PM

Huey, you once cleanswept one of my passwords - the I-DRANN one. All in one go, IIRC.

7. Anduin? (Referring to Isildur).

5. Dragon, if there are six named inns?

2. Cabed en Aras?

6. Lindon?

Urwen 02-08-2023 09:23 PM

None are correct.

Well, Anduin is, but not for 7.

Huinesoron 02-09-2023 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 736578)
None are correct.

Well, Anduin is, but not for 7.

Is Anduin 6, referencing the breaking of the Fellowship (or possibly where the Nazgul split up? I feel like they separated while crossing some river on the way to the Shire). That would make the password [checks] NNNNNNN, apparently. :D:D:D

hS

Urwen 02-09-2023 08:30 AM

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
2. Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
4. A line of defense was here. (4)
5. Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
7. It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

Pervinca Took 02-09-2023 10:26 AM

NENNING for the password?

4. SARN FORD, guarded by the Rangers?

Urwen 02-09-2023 11:28 AM

Yes to the password, no to the other.

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
E: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
I: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
G: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

Pervinca Took 02-09-2023 12:05 PM

I - DUILWEN - 'green river,' and one of a group of six.

Urwen 02-09-2023 12:16 PM

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
E: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
G: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

Pervinca Took 02-09-2023 02:21 PM

G - GLADDEN?

Although Isildur was a father of four.

(I had thought before that he died in the Anduin - hence my previous (wrong) guess).

Urwen 02-09-2023 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 736586)
G - GLADDEN?

Although Isildur was a father of four.

(I had thought before that he died in the Anduin - hence my previous (wrong) guess).

That clue says 'forementioned three', not just 'three'.

Now, which father famously had three kids, who are all 'forementioned'?

Pervinca Took 02-10-2023 01:25 AM

Hurin.

Is G the odd one out? Because in a sense he dies of GRIEF?

Or is it the GULF of somewhere that he chucks himself into in the end?

I think his 3 kids each appear in one of the first 6 clues - either in the clue or the answer.

E is TEIGLIN, I think. If so, I was very close with Cabed-an-Aras!

And Carnen, Harnen and Isen could all have been said to have a line of defence at some time, I think.

P.S. Was Turin healed where the Narog began?

Urwen 02-10-2023 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 736588)
Hurin.

Is G the odd one out? Because in a sense he dies of GRIEF?

Or is it the GULF of somewhere that he chucks himself into in the end?

I think his 3 kids each appear in one of the first 6 clues - either in the clue or the answer.

E is TEIGLIN, I think. If so, I was very close with Cabed-an-Aras!

And Carnen, Harnen and Isen could all have been said to have a line of defence at some time, I think.

P.S. Was Turin healed where the Narog began?

Yes, Turin is the one healed. And Hurin threw himself into Belegaer. What's another name for Belegaer?

Also, I had another answer in mind for 4th clue, but Isen fits as well, so...should I make you find the answer I intended or just put in Isen?

Urwen 02-10-2023 04:34 AM

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
TEIGLIN: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
G: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

Galadriel55 02-10-2023 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 736589)
Yes, Turin is the one healed. And Hurin threw himself into Belegaer. What's another name for Belegaer?

I mean, we've gone through a bunch of possibilities... GREAT SEA?

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Originally Posted by Urwen
Also, I had another answer in mind for 4th clue, but Isen fits as well, so...should I make you find the answer I intended or just put in Isen?

I for one am game to keep guessing, but I might need a pointer in the right direction. Perhaps a hint about where or when this defense line was.

Urwen 02-10-2023 06:25 AM

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
TEIGLIN: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
GREAT SEA: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

Urwen 02-10-2023 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 736591)
I mean, we've gone through a bunch of possibilities... GREAT SEA?



I for one am game to keep guessing, but I might need a pointer in the right direction. Perhaps a hint about where or when this defense line was.


For where, northwestern Eriador. For when, during Elendil's time.

Pervinca Took 02-10-2023 12:06 PM

Is the last one the GLANDUIN?

Oh - *that's* what you meant by a mirror password!

(I made one that shape once and called it a chevron).

Urwen 02-10-2023 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 736596)
Is the last one the GLANDUIN?

Oh - *that's* what you meant by a mirror password!

(I made one that shape once and called it a chevron).


No, it's shorter than that.

Pervinca Took 02-10-2023 12:37 PM

Lhûn.

A line of defence is specifically mentioned in association with it on Tolkien Gateway.

Urwen 02-10-2023 12:50 PM

Congrats
 
NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
TEIGLIN: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
LHUN: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
GREAT SEA: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

This one is inspired by my new title, ngl.

And proceed.

Pervinca Took 02-10-2023 08:00 PM

And jolly good it was. But what's your new title?

I have a puzzle stored, but bear with me. It's on my laptop, there isn't enough signal in the bedroom to get it from there to here, and I've injured a tendon in my arm.

Urwen 02-10-2023 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 736600)
And jolly good it was. But what's your new title?

You didn't notice yet?

Pervinca Took 02-11-2023 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 736601)
You didn't notice yet?

I have now. I was looking a bit under the user name, not directly under it.

Pervinca Took 02-11-2023 02:09 PM

Once more, dear friends ...
 
1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
2. Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
3. Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
4. He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
5. Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
6. She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

Urwen 02-11-2023 03:27 PM

I'll make an educated guess for 4. Since it says 'he', and not 'she', it has to be Drogo.

Galadriel55 02-11-2023 03:33 PM

1. Angelica?

3. ...iamb?

Pervinca Took 02-11-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 736607)
I'll make an educated guess for 4. Since it says 'he', and not 'she', it has to be Drogo.

Nope. Other folks drowned besides them pesky Bagginses.

Pervinca Took 02-11-2023 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 736608)
1. Angelica?

3. ...iamb?

Afraid not.

An iamb would work for any line of strict iambic pentameter, and would not be confined to King Lear.

Urwen 02-11-2023 04:49 PM

4. Isildur?

Pervinca Took 02-11-2023 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 736611)
4. Isildur?

No.

Didn't he die mostly from orc arrows, BTW?

Pervinca Took 02-12-2023 01:57 AM

I'll give you a hint for the King Lear one. It's from one of Lear's very last speeches. Grief-stricken, he has carried in the dead Cordelia, and it comes after 'Thou'llt come no more.'

And thinking about it, that particular line is in *trochaic* pentameter, not iambic.

Urwen 02-12-2023 03:47 AM

Ecthelion for 4, then?

*looks up people who drowned* There is also Hurin, if one is technical about it. Fall in the sea and you drown. Or one of many nameless Numenoreans, for same reasons.

Huinesoron 02-12-2023 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 736615)

*looks up people who drowned* There is also Hurin, if one is technical about it. Fall in the sea and you drown. Or one of many nameless Numenoreans, for same reasons.

And Amroth, I think - at least, he jumped off a boat and was never seen again, so "appears" would seem to fit.

#5: deceive or lounge is LIE, but I'm not sure if that's the full answer.

#2: By the chapter title, Bilbo was after INSIDE information.

As for Lear, he has a habit of repeating words (at one point he drops six 'kill's in a row), but I think the one you're after is NEVER.

hS

Pervinca Took 02-12-2023 02:54 PM

1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
6. She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

Well, Sloth is one of the Deadly Sins, and not lying is one of the Commandments, (which means I'm stuffed, for a start! Well, on the first count).

And Lear also says 'Sa, sa, sa, sa' at one point. Not a whole pentameter of it, though.

Urwen 02-12-2023 03:03 PM

6. Luthien (IN THE LOO)

Pervinca Took 02-12-2023 03:25 PM

1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

Yes - IN THE LU moved round.

Urwen 02-12-2023 03:45 PM

I'm assuming that the 'No' applies to both of G55's guesses up there?

Pervinca Took 02-12-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 736621)
I'm assuming that the 'No' applies to both of G55's guesses up there?

Yes, it does.


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