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Huinesoron 08-16-2018 05:59 AM

1. FAROTH - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. E - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. LADROS - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. GUARDED PLAIN - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. UMBOTH MUILIN - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. N - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

:-/ I desperately need to start checking all the bits of my clues before I post them. In fairness, I was thinking of this carol, which definitely uses 'Ros', though it sometimes comes with an apostrophe.

Two to go!

hS

Nerwen 08-16-2018 08:08 AM

NARGOTHROND for #6? "Go(e)th rond" for the "ancient" and "French" parts, but I don't get the "sun" part (assuming this is right). The rest would be the straight clue.

Huinesoron 08-16-2018 08:37 AM

1. FAROTH - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. E - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. LADROS - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. GUARDED PLAIN - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. UMBOTH MUILIN - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. NARGOTHROND - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

In Quenya, the sun is Anar. If you remove the first A ('not a'), you get Nar. :D

One to go!

hS

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-16-2018 01:49 PM

Is 2 Eithel Sirion?

Huinesoron 08-16-2018 02:38 PM

It isn't, though it's pretty geographically close.

hS

Pervinca Took 08-16-2018 03:45 PM

Ered Wethrin?

Huinesoron 08-16-2018 04:07 PM

1. FAROTH - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. ERED WETHRIN - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. LADROS - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. GUARDED PLAIN - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. UMBOTH MUILIN - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. NARGOTHROND - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

[Theme: The domains of Finrod Felagund (and places on the border)]

Correct! With "He's red with wine" heavily slurring to be a soundalike. (I see Nerwen actually guessed this one earlier... sorry, missed that!)

Inspired by the fact that, taking in the various places subject to him, Finrod's domains totally dwarf those of the High King and of Thingol.

Well done to everyone, and over to Nerwen.

hS

Nerwen 08-16-2018 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 712347)
1. FAROTH - You might spy them from far off, but the hunters would see you first.
2. ERED WETHRIN - "He's red with wine," they slurred of Fingolfin before his death.
3. LADROS - Boys with German flowers in the mortal lands.
4. AMON RUDH - Turin held that it was quite rude of the sun.
5. GUARDED PLAIN - If those who love spelling are dead, plainly within this they'll see you coming.
6. UMBOTH MUILIN - Not a mere name: pool your thoughts, think in Sindarin, and dream of the sea.
7. NARGOTHROND - Beneath the hills, Elvish, ancient, and French: the (not a) sun goes round.
8. DORTHONION - It sucks to have a lisp - the portal's on chloride before the night's shade.

[Theme: The domains of Finrod Felagund (and places on the border)]

Correct! With "He's red with wine" heavily slurring to be a soundalike. (I see Nerwen actually guessed this one earlier... sorry, missed that!)

Oh, it *was* that after all! At there I was thinking I'd misjudged you!:p

Quote:

Inspired by the fact that, taking in the various places subject to him, Finrod's domains totally dwarf those of the High King and of Thingol.
Ah, well, it's the quiet ones you have to watch (as we say in Werewolf).;)

Huinesoron 08-17-2018 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 712349)
Ah, well, it's the quiet ones you have to watch (as we say in Werewolf).;)

... House Finwe Plays Werewolf was something I didn't know I needed.
  • Celegorm and Curufin are always accused of collusion - except when they actually are wolves together.
  • Orodreth is infamous for the time he drew Seer, yet still ended up voting with a confirmed wolf to lynch a confirmed villager.
  • The one time Idril played, the game ended on Day One; it turns out having an actual Seer present makes things rather easy.
  • Celebrimbor only ever hosts weird, off-the-wall variants. He says he's trying to perfect the rules, but it never seems to work.
  • Aredhel is always supremely confident in her suspicions. She's not often right, but by golly she's confident.
  • Finrod is actually worryingly bad at the game: he has a tendency to trust everyone, and is always surprised to be killed.

... I should probably take this to Mirth before I get carried away.

hS

Pervinca Took 08-18-2018 06:50 AM

Is there a new password, Nerwen?

Nerwen 08-18-2018 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 712359)
Is there a new password, Nerwen?

Not yet- I've been rather occupied the last few days, sorry. I'll get onto it!

Nerwen 08-20-2018 08:32 PM

Sorry about the delay!

Nice easy one this time..l

1. Namesake of Hiawatha's beloved gives name to another doomed maiden.
2. It is rich, yet a disfigurement.
3. Call softly; it is cold.
4. I'm addressing you- bow your head deeply. Shepherds bathe here!
5. Cheer up flower!

Huinesoron 08-21-2018 02:48 AM

Is #3 HAIL? It is cold, though I'm not sure I'd call hailing someone a particularly soft call.

hS

Nerwen 08-21-2018 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 712381)
Is #3 HAIL? It is cold, though I'm not sure I'd call hailing someone a particularly soft call.

hS

No. You are looking for a relatively recent synonym for "call", with a specific (real-world) context.

Meanwhile, the answer is Middle-earth specific.

Pervinca Took 08-21-2018 05:03 AM

1. Hiawatha's beloved was Minnehaha, meaning 'laughing water.'

Not sure about the water, but is the answer the doomed LALAITH?

Pervinca Took 08-21-2018 05:10 AM

5. Gladden?

Galadriel55 08-21-2018 05:19 AM

3. Ringlo

Nerwen 08-21-2018 06:26 AM

Correct on #3 and #5. Pervinca, you're almost there with #1, but you need, not Lalaith herself, but the thing for which she was named (and which translates roughly to "laughing water").

1. Namesake of Hiawatha's beloved gives name to another doomed maiden.
2. It is rich, yet a disfigurement.
RINGLÓ: Call softly; it is cold.
4. I'm addressing you- bow your head deeply. Shepherds bathe here!
GLADDEN: Cheer up flower!

Pervinca Took 08-21-2018 08:33 AM

Is the password NAROG and the theme water/rivers?

Pervinca Took 08-21-2018 08:36 AM

And NEN LALAITH for the first clue? (It means 'Water of Laughter,' apparently).

Nerwen 08-21-2018 10:32 AM

Right on all three counts!

NEN LALAITH Namesake of Hiawatha's beloved gives name to another doomed maiden.
A It is rich, yet a disfigurement.
RINGLÓ: Call softly; it is cold.
O I'm addressing you- bow your head deeply. Shepherds bathe here!
GLADDEN: Cheer up flower!

Pervinca Took 08-21-2018 10:36 AM

2. ASCAR? Why rich, though?

... Ah ... Doriath's treasure was apparently lost in there, and then it became known as Goldenbed/Rathloriel.

Pervinca Took 08-21-2018 10:41 AM

3. ONODLO.

(Shepherds a metaphor for the Ents?)

Nerwen 08-21-2018 05:36 PM

NEN LALAITH: Namesake of Hiawatha's beloved gives name to another doomed maiden.
ASCAR: is rich, yet a disfigurement.
RINGLÓ: Call softly; it is cold.
ONODLÓ: I'm addressing you- bow your head deeply. Shepherds bathe here!
GLADDEN: Cheer up flower!

Theme: Rivers.

Well done, and over to Pervinca!

Pervinca Took 08-22-2018 03:58 AM

Nice one, Nerwen! :)

This is the one I put on hold because 'Panthael' was a response to Huey's 'Meriadoc.' Hope you like it.

1. Plosive meets slithery thing (we hear) on Caradhras.
2. ABBA song swallows little Beatrice. It’s exhausting!
3. Oo, they’re awful!
4. Cousins of Vogons? They torment with onomatopoeia!
5. Submerged stalker, or just a wet TV addict?
6. Lovable rugby player loses surname and liquid, but gains an equine hybrid here, we hear!
7. Grumble about chicken? Here?
8. ‘Lotsss of thisss in Mordor, my Preciouss!’ (he gasped).
9. Do this only for a taste of justice or a world of truth. (The twin of the last clue).
10. Nice place? No, a slum. Messed up.
11. Breathing apparatus swallows map-book, in confusion. (They’re so bad at finding people, you’d think they had, too).
12. Terror of Cirith Ungol.
13. Morning marathon around (or rather up) here – and the final one.
14. To hear these might well dement. Perhaps they were played to Frodo in Cirith Ungol?
15. Much harder than feather-beds!
16. Hateful road brings epiphany of danger – and this.
17. Beren and Luthien, brought to the camp-fire by this.
18. Inanimate bogs.

Huinesoron 08-22-2018 05:07 AM

Based on the equine hybrid, is #6 EMYN MUIL?

(Pretty sure that leads to a rugby player named Lemon; eh, I've heard weirder things.)

hS

Pervinca Took 08-22-2018 05:26 AM

1. Plosive meets slithery thing (we hear) on Caradhras.
2. ABBA song swallows little Beatrice. It’s exhausting!
3. Oo, they’re awful!
4. Cousins of Vogons? They torment with onomatopoeia!
5. Submerged stalker, or just a wet TV addict?
EMYN MUIL: Lovable rugby player loses surname and liquid, but gains an equine hybrid here, we hear!
7. Grumble about chicken? Here?
8. ‘Lotsss of thisss in Mordor, my Preciouss!’ (he gasped).
9. Do this only for a taste of justice or a world of truth. (The twin of the last clue).
10. Nice place? No, a slum. Messed up.
11. Breathing apparatus swallows map-book, in confusion. (They’re so bad at finding people, you’d think they had, too).
12. Terror of Cirith Ungol.
13. Morning marathon around (or rather up) here – and the final one.
14. To hear these might well dement. Perhaps they were played to Frodo in Cirith Ungol?
15. Much harder than feather-beds!
16. Hateful road brings epiphany of danger – and this.
17. Beren and Luthien, brought to the camp-fire by this.
18. Inanimate bogs.

The rugby player is Emlyn Hughes. He was one of the team leaders on the British sports quiz show 'A Question Of Sport' for years, I think in the 80's and possibly also 90's, (Bill Beaumont was the other), and a very warm character. Died in middle age. And yes, a mule is a horse-donkey hybrid.

(The 'we hear?' only applied to mule/mule. Aucun citron ici).

Galadriel55 08-22-2018 08:58 AM

18. Dead Marshes.

And can I hazard a very straight forward SHELOB for the terror of Cirith Ungol?

Pervinca Took 08-22-2018 09:06 AM

1. Plosive meets slithery thing (we hear) on Caradhras.
2. ABBA song swallows little Beatrice. It’s exhausting!
3. Oo, they’re awful!
4. Cousins of Vogons? They torment with onomatopoeia!
5. Submerged stalker, or just a wet TV addict?
EMYN MUIL: Lovable rugby player loses surname and liquid, but gains an equine hybrid here, we hear!
7. Grumble about chicken? Here?
8. ‘Lotsss of thisss in Mordor, my Preciouss!’ (he gasped).
9. Do this only for a taste of justice or a world of truth. (The twin of the last clue).
10. Nice place? No, a slum. Messed up.
11. Breathing apparatus swallows map-book, in confusion. (They’re so bad at finding people, you’d think they had, too).
12. Terror of Cirith Ungol.
13. Morning marathon around (or rather up) here – and the final one.
14. To hear these might well dement. Perhaps they were played to Frodo in Cirith Ungol?
15. Much harder than feather-beds!
16. Hateful road brings epiphany of danger – and this.
17. Beren and Luthien, brought to the camp-fire by this.
DEAD MARSHES: Inanimate bogs.

Shelob is IN number 12, but can you also give me a synonym for terror?

Galadriel55 08-22-2018 11:03 AM

7 isn't Amon Hen or something like that?

Pervinca Took 08-22-2018 11:13 AM

1. Plosive meets slithery thing (we hear) on Caradhras.
2. ABBA song swallows little Beatrice. It’s exhausting!
3. Oo, they’re awful!
4. Cousins of Vogons? They torment with onomatopoeia!
5. Submerged stalker, or just a wet TV addict?
EMYN MUIL: Lovable rugby player loses surname and liquid, but gains an equine hybrid here, we hear!
AMON HEN: Grumble about chicken? Here?
8. ‘Lotsss of thisss in Mordor, my Preciouss!’ (he gasped).
9. Do this only for a taste of justice or a world of truth. (The twin of the last clue).
10. Nice place? No, a slum. Messed up.
11. Breathing apparatus swallows map-book, in confusion. (They’re so bad at finding people, you’d think they had, too).
12. Terror of Cirith Ungol.
13. Morning marathon around (or rather up) here – and the final one.
14. To hear these might well dement. Perhaps they were played to Frodo in Cirith Ungol?
15. Much harder than feather-beds!
16. Hateful road brings epiphany of danger – and this.
17. Beren and Luthien, brought to the camp-fire by this.
DEAD MARSHES: Inanimate bogs.

Something *exactly* like that! AMON as an anagram of 'moan' and HEN for chicken.

Huinesoron 08-22-2018 04:24 PM

Oh, where did Aragorn sing his excerpt from the Lay of Leithian?

[Checks]

Is #17 either WEATHERTOP or AMON SUL?

(I love the fact that Aragorn's dialogue here goes 'no, we shouldn't talk about Sauron here - let's chat about his old boss instead! Oh no! They found us anyway!')

hS

Pervinca Took 08-22-2018 04:42 PM

1. Plosive meets slithery thing (we hear) on Caradhras.
2. ABBA song swallows little Beatrice. It’s exhausting!
3. Oo, they’re awful!
4. Cousins of Vogons? They torment with onomatopoeia!
5. Submerged stalker, or just a wet TV addict?
EMYN MUIL: Lovable rugby player loses surname and liquid, but gains an equine hybrid here, we hear!
AMON HEN: Grumble about chicken? Here?
8. ‘Lotsss of thisss in Mordor, my Preciouss!’ (he gasped).
9. Do this only for a taste of justice or a world of truth. (The twin of the last clue).
10. Nice place? No, a slum. Messed up.
11. Breathing apparatus swallows map-book, in confusion. (They’re so bad at finding people, you’d think they had, too).
12. Terror of Cirith Ungol.
13. Morning marathon around (or rather up) here – and the final one.
14. To hear these might well dement. Perhaps they were played to Frodo in Cirith Ungol?
15. Much harder than feather-beds!
16. Hateful road brings epiphany of danger – and this.
ARAGORN'S SINGING: Beren and Luthien, brought to the camp-fire by this.
DEAD MARSHES: Inanimate bogs.

It wasn't the *location* that brought them to the camp-fire, was it? ;) But I'll give it to you, (see answer above), for realising it was Aragorn's singing that did it, and because it's perhaps an unusual kind of answer to a clue.

And yes, I think it's funny too. Don't say Mordor and call him You Know Who, but let's have a song and a fire. :D Especially because I tend to think of Robert Stephens's Aragorn, and how pompous he sounds when he's telling them off (although not quite as pompous as when he becomes king!)

And yes, there is a theme. And also one odd-one-out/sort of trick answer. (Only one, though).

Galadriel55 08-22-2018 05:14 PM

Wonder if 16 could refer to Elves or Singing that scared away a Nazgul in a short cut through the Shire.

Pervinca Took 08-22-2018 05:22 PM

No, but you're in roughly the right part of the right book.

Nerwen 08-23-2018 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 712417)
No, but you're in roughly the right part of the right book.

Mushrooms? The "hated road" then being Farmer Maggot's lane?

...So the "Terror of Cirith Ungol" is not Shelob? What then, I wonder?

Galadriel55 08-23-2018 05:19 AM

Re: terror, maybe Shelob's LAIR if she's in it.

Nerwen 08-23-2018 05:41 AM

Could #4 be NEEKERBREEKERS?

Pervinca Took 08-23-2018 06:23 AM

1. Plosive meets slithery thing (we hear) on Caradhras.
2. ABBA song swallows little Beatrice. It’s exhausting!
3. Oo, they’re awful!
NEEKERBREEKERS: Cousins of Vogons? They torment with onomatopoeia!
5. Submerged stalker, or just a wet TV addict?
EMYN MUIL: Lovable rugby player loses surname and liquid, but gains an equine hybrid here, we hear!
AMON HEN: Grumble about chicken? Here?
8. ‘Lotsss of thisss in Mordor, my Preciouss!’ (he gasped).
9. Do this only for a taste of justice or a world of truth. (The twin of the last clue).
10. Nice place? No, a slum. Messed up.
11. Breathing apparatus swallows map-book, in confusion. (They’re so bad at finding people, you’d think they had, too).
12. Terror of Cirith Ungol.
13. Morning marathon around (or rather up) here – and the final one.
14. To hear these might well dement. Perhaps they were played to Frodo in Cirith Ungol?
15. Much harder than feather-beds!
16. Hateful road brings epiphany of danger – and this.
ARAGORN'S SINGING: Beren and Luthien, brought to the camp-fire by this.
DEAD MARSHES: Inanimate bogs.

It IS Shelob ... but it's a phrase: '------ of Shelob.' The ------ means something similar to terror. It's just the phrase I needed in order to get the right initial letter.

The phrase is used in the books once, too.

I used 'onomatopoeic tormentors' for Neekerbreekers once before, too, but a very long time ago. ;)

Pervinca Took 08-23-2018 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 712418)
Mushrooms? The "hated road" then being Farmer Maggot's lane?

Good idea, but no.

The answer refers to a specific sentence in Book I of LOTR.


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