Nope. Maybe this one is more obscure than I thought but it is a "fair" clue and I can't hint more without telling.

Maybe try some of the others first.

OK, taking your hint that Imrahil was not a million miles away from the answer, I looked up the Princes of Dol Amroth, and one of them was called ANGELIMIR. 'Angelic' for virtuous loses its last letter and adds 'mir' (the elvish word for jewel), mayhaps?

(Sighs happily - it's always nice to have an excuse to think of those swan-knights). ;)

(And as for the scene where Imrahil carries Faramir from the stricken field ....)

Ahem.

Imrahil is wonderful and he notices Eowyn is alive and is one of my favourites..so forget that not everyone has memorizes his family tree. Angelimir was his granfather, and who knows possibly an inspiration for Faramir and Boromir's name.

1. DEAGOL Murdered, confused, gaoled.
2. RODYN Will the artist have his day? Sounds like it.
3. ANGELIMIR Prince is unendingly virtuous in face of Elvish gem.
4. MAGLOR Rearrange twilight right after singer.
5. BELEG Great elf confused in church furlong.
6. OLWË Relocated German lion king.
7. RIVER-DAUGHTER Flower child?
8. LORGAN. Heart of the Easterling?
9. ELFWINE Future king, from Dorwinion maybe.
10. GLORFINDEL Dwarf took fright initially about direction before guided back to elf.

Password: DRAMBORLEG, the great axe of Tuor?

(Found it in the index of "Unfinished Tales").

Indeed and that should give a lot of help.

Beleg was a great elf, and I suppose a furlong could be a 'leg,' but confused and church? Hmmm ....

Beleg was a great elf and beleg means great in elvish. It is also an anagram of glebe which is the church furlong

Ah, ok ... I thought furlong could only be a length of distance, not an area.

Looking for Rembrandt and Raphael soundalikes as we speak. ;)

That one is obscure the others are much easier. I. Kne.w glebe was church land. Church furlong eas givn as synonym

Just wondering if the future king could be ENVINYATAR (the Renewer, one of Aragorn's names), and if the connection with Dorwinion could be the wine of that region and the strength-renewing properties of wine?

Not Envinyatar. You are over thinking.

Well, I think Dorwinion was near or by the Sea of Rhun. EORL was a future king and he rode south to Rhun, although he was born in the far north.

Lorgan was a prominent Easterling - the heart is an organ? Not sure about the L, unless the heart is to the left of the body?

I once used Lorgan as an answer, I think - record and sprinted slightly confused (log ran).

Lorgan is correct. The heart is a little tovthe left in most people. Eorl isn't. By that logic any king is a future king.

Eldarion, then. He was my first guess, but I can't find a connection with Dorwinion. I kind of thought Eorl fit because he was the first King of Rohan, heir to that position, as it were, before the kingdom yet existed.

Still no.

Problem is, I can't think of any king that isn't a future king in that sense.

Elessar is a future king, but the name means Elfstone, not future king.

Still no.

As Eomer's son, Elfwine was a future king of Rohan. Dorwinion is heavily connected with wine. I think men make the wine, although Thranduil and co are well-known for drinking it.

Yep. Since Dorwinion is only mentioned in the context of Elvish drinking. I thought it was good enough

Indeed. Although, like a plank, I started thinking of King Arthur because of "The once and future king" and that made me think of Aelfwine/Elfwine, because they both sailed to an island ... and then I remembered there was another Elfwine ....

4. M Rearrange twilight right after singer.

MAGLOR, who was a singer/bard.

Gloam (archaic word for twilight) rearranged, plus R for right.

At first I thought it wasn't obscure enough, but having checked it's the other clue that you said was the obscure one.

I thought that was the easiest since singer ending in r has to be Maglor or lindir... pretty much

Yes, but I was thinking it was clue 2, which you said was the obscure one, so was expecting it to be harder. Whereas it's actually clue 4. Olwe was the easiest one for me, because I too had once scrambled it to Lowe.

Misreading things completely is liable to make things harder :cool:

Am thinking RA for Royal Academy, and that I need to consult some appendices. Problem is, there is a highly precarious stack of books balancing in front of the nearest copy of The Silmarilion. ;)

2. R Will the artist have his day? Sounds like it.

Well, having decided that the answer is more likely to be a day than a person, I went looking for elvish words for days instead:

"Friday : Orbelain (Rodyn)"

This is quoted from a Barrow-Downs thread started in 2003.

As "Rodyn" is in brackets, I guess it's obscure, more obscure than Orbelain, (only one other day had an alternative in brackets, I think), and as it maybe sounds like Rodin, the sculptor of "The Kiss," I guess it would work for "the artist," as if Rodyn could sound like it was his day.

Rodin sounds like "Rodan," I think. I'd pronounce Rodyn "Rodinn," not knowing otherwise, but I'm not 100% confident with my elvish pronunciation.

Maybe I should have put looks a bit likev ir..anyway Rodyn it is.

Some worthy brainteasers there, Mith!

I finished this one at the weekend:

1. Rumil slain in confusion? Initially, but not by this.
2. Great month? In translation, certainly.
3. Virginia Woolf’s destination?
4. Spy a resting place, we hear; then trap note in confusion here.
5. Hamlet adds nothing to reckless eel’s confusion.
6. Flower returns, gains direction, reveals another. Or does it?

3 Calmindon....I was sure 5here was a lighthouse somewhere...in this case Tol Uinen

Quite.
 

1. Rumil slain in confusion? Initially, but not by this.
2. Great month? In translation, certainly.
CALMINDON: Virginia Woolf’s destination?
4. Spy a resting place, we hear; then trap note in confusion here.
5. Hamlet adds nothing to reckless eel’s confusion.
6. Flower returns, gains direction, reveals another. Or does it?

I was hopng to get all of these before having a stab at the password, but maybe the thread will move again if I post what I've got so far.

4 - Cabed-en-Aras
5 - Needlehole
6 - Siril

I considered needlehole but couldn't get it to workmbeyond containing eel... care to enlighten this plank?

Reckless = no heed. I have no idea where the last l comes from, so I'm probably wrong.

Ah ok. Thanks Squatter

Quite right, Squatter, you're wrong!

But only on that one.

1. Rumil slain in confusion? Initially, but not by this.
2. Great month? In translation, certainly.
CALMINDON: Virginia Woolf’s destination?
CABED-EN-ARAS: Spy a resting place, we hear; then trap note in confusion here.
5. Hamlet adds nothing to reckless eel’s confusion.
SIRIL: Flower returns, gains direction, reveals another. Or does it?

Siril: Iris backwards, adds L, reveals another flower - "Or does it?" is because it's the other kind of flower.

I couldn't remember Cabed-En-Aras at first, because I wrote it a while ago, apart from sounds like "see a bed," but looking at it again, it's a confused/scrambled "snare" with an "A" trapped in it.

Needlehole is the wrong hamlet. This one's a lot easier than you think. You have basically chosen the wrong synonym.

I don't think 1 and 2 are all that hard, either.

Only easier if you think outside the Shire (and I scoured the Journeys of Frodo) and go to Warwickshire SAREHOLE : anagram of RASH and eel with another O (nothing).

Oh and I thought they were fiendish every river every flower, every settlement I could find tried and failed. Cabed en aras never occured maybe because it is about the only elvish word I mentally pronounce correctly!

Ah, but after Squatter's last one I had to make them fiendish! And if Needlehole had been posted earlier, I'd have given a hint to lead you to the right answer.

I agree that Cabed-En-Aras and Siril were hard, but it's not the first time the "real world Tolkien" card has been played, and I thought Sarehole would be an interesting wild card. It's the first hamlet that springs to my mind when Tolkien is mentioned.

Very surprised number one hasn't been guessed yet.

1. Rumil slain in confusion? Initially, but not by this.
2. Great month? In translation, certainly.
CALMINDON: Virginia Woolf’s destination?
CABED-EN-ARAS: Spy a resting place, we hear; then trap note in confusion here.
SAREHOLE: Hamlet adds nothing to reckless eel’s confusion.
SIRIL: Flower returns, gains direction, reveals another. Or does it?

Just wanted to let you know that I'll be away for a fortnight starting 1st August. Anyone want to have a stab at the password and/or remaining clues?