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Pervinca Took 08-27-2020 02:06 PM

AIWENDIL: See him lament in confusion, and dine in confusion within.
NIENNA: Knights say it and a queen returns to reveal her.
GILTHONIEL: Nimble dwarf transforms into her.
EONWE: He disperses little to swallow a preposition.
L: In turmoil, see poet trade for him.
SALMAR: In him, a plosiveless hymn meets an automobile that won't start.

Well done, Urwen! :)

Just one to go.

Huinesoron 09-01-2020 02:00 AM

LATHSPELL contains 'SELL' for trade, and... oh, there it is, PLATH. :)

hS

Pervinca Took 09-01-2020 03:23 AM

AIWENDIL: See him lament in confusion, and dine in confusion within.
NIENNA: Knights say it and a queen returns to reveal her.
GILTHONIEL: Nimble dwarf transforms into her.
EONWE: He disperses little to swallow a preposition.
LATHSPELL: In turmoil, see poet trade for him.
SALMAR: In him, a plosiveless hymn meets an automobile that won't start.

Well done!

Over to Urwen.

Urwen 09-01-2020 06:44 AM

Give me a day or two.

Urwen 09-04-2020 05:59 AM

Here we go:

1. Rosie's dad returns with a vowel switch. Just add #1 for her.
2. The Spanish extremity reveals her.
3. A car part turns for him - without hydrogen.
4. A handle of the sword meets a mythical creature. All is confused for her.
5. Shake up the Tajik monetary unit to reveal him.
6. Twisted hearing organ is surrounded by a signal for help; he should have used the latter.

Pervinca Took 09-04-2020 10:14 AM

3. ELWE? (Wheel minus H).

6. SAEROS (SOS around twisted EAR).

Tajikistan has the SOMONI, but I can't get anything Tolkienian from scrambling that.

Galadriel55 09-04-2020 10:27 AM

5. AMDIR, from diram?

1. NIMLOTH, from Tolma(i)n. Not sure how #1 becomes H.

Pervinca Took 09-04-2020 10:33 AM

I think Urwen means add one letter, which you did. :)

Urwen 09-04-2020 10:33 AM

#1 means hydrogen as well. The first element on the periodic table. A trick used by Pervinca too, if I recall correctly.

NIMLOTH: Rosie's dad returns with a vowel switch. Just add #1 for her.
2. The Spanish extremity reveals her.
ELWE: A car part turns for him - without hydrogen.
4. A handle of the sword meets a mythical creature. All is confused for her.
AMDIR: Shake up the Tajik monetary unit to reveal him.
SAEROS: Twisted hearing organ is surrounded by a signal for help; he should have used the latter.

Pervinca Took 09-04-2020 10:36 AM

NELLAS for the password.

4. LOTHIRIEL - HILT plus ... ORIEL?

I only know ORIEL as a kind of window or an Oxford college, though.

LALAITH ... HILT + ALA?

GILTHONIEL ... HILT + GONIEL? ;)

Urwen 09-04-2020 10:47 AM

Well, I am pretty sure that none of those fit the theme...though Lalaith is related to three people who do and who could have been in the puzzle as well, had I not decided to use only elves...

NIMLOTH: Rosie's dad returns with a vowel switch. Just add #1 for her.
E: The Spanish extremity reveals her.
ELWE: A car part turns for him - without hydrogen.
L: A handle of the sword meets a mythical creature. All is confused for her.
AMDIR: Shake up the Tajik monetary unit to reveal him.
SAEROS: Twisted hearing organ is surrounded by a signal for help; he should have used the latter.

Galadriel55 09-04-2020 10:55 AM

2. ELWING: el + wing


Theme: perhaps something to do with living in Doriath? So perhaps LUTHIEN for the remaining one - though, HILT + ?UNE? ENU? UEN?

Urwen 09-04-2020 11:08 AM

It's nue.

NIMLOTH: Rosie's dad returns with a vowel switch. Just add #1 for her.
ELWING: The Spanish extremity reveals her.
ELWE: A car part turns for him - without hydrogen.
LUTHIEN: A handle of the sword meets a mythical creature. All is confused for her.
AMDIR: Shake up the Tajik monetary unit to reveal him.
SAEROS: Twisted hearing organ is surrounded by a signal for help; he should have used the latter.

THEME: People who lived in Doriath at some point of their lives.

Over to Pervinca.

Pervinca Took 09-04-2020 01:20 PM

Nice one! The NIMLOTH one in particular was a great clue.

Good work, Galadriel, too!

Here we go, then:

1. Without wheels, so to speak, see it shine.
2. He holds currency, though muddled and directionless.
3. Turn precedes a palindromic actress? Goodness, it’s hot!
4. Frodos Dreme? No, but it features heavily in at least one of his kinsman’s – take the fourth.
5. Something Bilbo would have seen, had they not been black. Take the second.
6. He sends no rugs back to the twin city?
7. An ocean! - Fingolfin’s squeeze, in turmoil, changes vowel on the first of November, and we see some – take the second one!

Urwen 09-09-2020 11:39 AM

Am I the only one willing to play this?

Urwen 09-13-2020 04:52 AM

3. Possibly Vasa (Ava + s???)

Pervinca Took 09-13-2020 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 728917)
3. Possibly Vasa (Ava + s???)

The AVA bit is right. Well done!

I have used 'turn' in the sense of a right turn or a left turn ....

And the answer is not a name.

Urwen 09-13-2020 12:04 PM

Avar?

Huinesoron 09-14-2020 03:52 AM

'Turn precedes' - so LAVA (which is hot)?

#5: As an entirely straight clue, this could be CAVES (or maybe TUNNELS), under the Misty Mountains; with the second letter being the password one.

#4: Frodo's dream in Bombadil's house (and indeed Frodos Dreme) are about the Sea, but Merry (I think) dreams of WATER more generally, or perhaps a FLOOD (or indeed DROWNING, though that's a bit dark!).

hS

Pervinca Took 09-14-2020 06:12 AM

1. Without wheels, so to speak, see it shine.
2. He holds currency, though muddled and directionless.
LAVA: Turn precedes a palindromic actress? Goodness, it’s hot!
4. Frodos Dreme? No, but it features heavily in at least one of his kinsman’s – take the fourth.
5. Something Bilbo would have seen, had they not been black. Take the second.
6. He sends no rugs back to the twin city?
7. An ocean! - Fingolfin’s squeeze, in turmoil, changes vowel on the first of November, and we see some – take the second one!

Frodos Dreme was just to put poetry into the clue. ;) You're looking for something that Bilbo dreams of.

Bilbo sees some things in Mirkwood when he climbs up into some trees, or is lifted up, (I forget which). They are ysually a differe.nt colour, but the ones he sees are black. ;)

Galadriel55 09-14-2020 07:48 AM

There are black squirrels and butterflies, but I thought Bilbo *does* see them.

(By the way, black squirrels are only a rarity in the Old World. On this side of the pond they're a daily occurrence.)

Pervinca Took 09-14-2020 09:38 AM

Yes, he *does* see them. I am referring to the variety of them that he *doesn't* see.

Huinesoron 09-16-2020 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 728933)
Yes, he *does* see them. I am referring to the variety of them that he *doesn't* see.

Tolkien being Tolkien, does he describe them as being like Red Admirals or Purple Emperors? [Checks] It's the latter. 'Take the second' could indicate using the second letter (U), or could mean we only need 'Emperor'.

(Which would obviously be a reference to Ar-Pharazon, with the theme 'things found underneath mountains'. :D :D :D)

As for Bilboes Dreme - well, FOOD springs to mind after he got Bombur'd by Thranduil. I think he also dreamt of mountains; you say 'it', so maybe the LONELY MOUNTAIN.

6: 'Twin city' in Middle-earth would probably mean Minas Ithil & Anor, but my immediate assumption was Ankh-Morpork. ^_~ 'No rugs back' could mean there's a 'guron' in the answer, but that doesn't sound terribly Tolkien.

7: Uh... Fingolfin's 'squeeze' is presumably Anaire. Not sure other than that.

hS

Pervinca Took 09-16-2020 02:41 AM

1. Without wheels, so to speak, see it shine.
2. He holds currency, though muddled and directionless.
LAVA: Turn precedes a palindromic actress? Goodness, it’s hot!
4. Frodos Dreme? No, but it features heavily in at least one of his kinsman’s – take the fourth.
PURPLE EMPERORS: Something Bilbo would have seen, had they not been black. Take the second.
6. He sends no rugs back to the twin city?
7. An ocean! - Fingolfin’s squeeze, in turmoil, changes vowel on the first of November, and we see some – take the second one!

You want a *particular* food that Bilbo dreams about.

And a city that was *founded* by twins.

Urwen 09-16-2020 02:49 AM

So...guron+Rome?

Huinesoron 09-16-2020 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 728940)
So...guron+Rome?

ROMESTAMO is Rome + [n]o mats (backwards). ... oh, and o = 0, right?

hS

Pervinca Took 09-16-2020 03:06 PM

1. Without wheels, so to speak, see it shine.
2. He holds currency, though muddled and directionless.
LAVA: Turn precedes a palindromic actress? Goodness, it’s hot!
4. Frodos Dreme? No, but it features heavily in at least one of his kinsman’s – take the fourth.
PURPLE EMPERORS: Something Bilbo would have seen, had they not been black. Take the second.
ROMESTAMO: He sends no rugs back to the twin city?
7. An ocean! - Fingolfin’s squeeze, in turmoil, changes vowel on the first of November, and we see some – take the second one!

Exactly right!

Huinesoron 09-17-2020 01:30 AM

Is the password COLOURS? Orange lava, purple butterflies, and one of the Blue Wizards?

Which for Bilboes Dreme points at BACON.

hS

Pervinca Took 09-17-2020 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 728948)
Is the password COLOURS? Orange lava, purple butterflies, and one of the Blue Wizards?

Which for Bilboes Dreme points at BACON.

hS

All correct! I wrote it straight after your RAINBOW one.

It has every colour of the rainbow, like yours, but unfortunately I couldn't get them in the right order like you did.

I'll put your answers in later, when I get home.

Pervinca Took 09-17-2020 11:16 AM

C: Without wheels, so to speak, see it shine.
O: He holds currency, though muddled and directionless.
LAVA: Turn precedes a palindromic actress? Goodness, it’s hot! (Orange)
BACON: Frodos Dreme? No, but it features heavily in at least one of his kinsman’s – take the fourth. (Pink)
PURPLE EMPERORS: Something Bilbo would have seen, had they not been black. Take the second. (Purple)
ROMESTAMO: He sends no rugs back to the twin city? (Blue wizard)
-S: An ocean! - Fingolfin’s squeeze, in turmoil, changes vowel on the first of November, and we see some – take the second one!

THEME: THE SEVEN COLOURS OF THE RAINBOW.

(UNFORTUNATELY, NOT IN THE RIGHT ORDER).

Galadriel55 09-18-2020 04:38 PM

CARNIL for #1? Not sure how, except it's red and has "nil car" which may be stretched to having no wheels.

#2: DOLLAR - L = ORALD, but not sure how he fits the theme, except maybe via his yellow boots.

Pervinca Took 09-18-2020 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 728954)
CARNIL for #1? Not sure how, except it's red and has "nil car" which may be stretched to having no wheels.

#2: DOLLAR - L = ORALD, but not sure how he fits the theme, except maybe via his yellow boots.

Both exactly right.

Pervinca Took 09-18-2020 06:29 PM

CARNIL: Without wheels, so to speak, see it shine. (Red star)
ORALD: He holds currency, though muddled and directionless. (Yellow boots)
LAVA: Turn precedes a palindromic actress? Goodness, it’s hot! (Orange)
BACON: Frodos Dreme? No, but it features heavily in at least one of his kinsman’s – take the fourth. (Pink)
PURPLE EMPERORS: Something Bilbo would have seen, had they not been black. Take the second. (Purple)
ROMESTAMO: He sends no rugs back to the twin city? (Blue wizard)
-S: An ocean! - Fingolfin’s squeeze, in turmoil, changes vowel on the first of November, and we see some – take the second one!

THEME: THE SEVEN COLOURS OF THE RAINBOW.

(UNFORTUNATELY, NOT IN THE RIGHT ORDER).


That leaves *green.* :)

Urwen 09-19-2020 03:09 AM

So it's an ocean that is green? *consults TG*

Pervinca Took 09-19-2020 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 728958)
So it's an ocean that is green? *consults TG*

Good idea, but no. The ocean is the cryptic part of the clue.

What's TG? 'The Guide,' or something?

Urwen 09-19-2020 04:34 AM

Tolkien Gateway.

Pervinca Took 09-19-2020 11:10 AM

Note straight part of clue: 'some.' ;)

It's something you can have *some* of.

Urwen 09-19-2020 01:18 PM

Food? Did Middle-Earth people invent pancakes? Because I'd love to have some pancakes.

Pervinca Took 09-19-2020 01:20 PM

Not food or drink. But something you can gather.

Huinesoron 09-20-2020 05:59 AM

An ocean! - Fingolfin’s squeeze could mean literally 'the name of a sea, minus Fingolfin's wife'. 'MEDITERRANEAN' contains every letter in 'ANAIRE', and leaves 'MEDTERN', which is enough letters to anagram something. One vowel would need changing (maybe to 'o' from November, or maybe the vowel next to the N, or maybe you also need to add an N), and I guess we'd need to pluralise it...?

Or it could be LEAVES, based solely on the colour. :D

(PS, Urwen: of course Middle-earth has pancakes...!)

hS


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