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William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 10:44 AM

those two clues are a) Biblical and b) musical

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 10:45 AM

New page:

1. Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend
2. Get out? Nein! He's backwards!
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there.
4. Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!"
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last
7. Key crew! Activity will reveal him
8. He's a dunce on one side

Urwen 05-10-2019 10:51 AM

Challah and rugelach are Jewish pastries mentioned in the bible.

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 10:52 AM

Bilhah was Rachel's handmaid.

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 716316)
Bilhah was Rachel's handmaid.

You're at least heading in the right direction.......

Urwen 05-10-2019 10:55 AM

And 440 seems to be A.

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:03 AM

Hagar was Sarai's handmaid.

The biblical term often means concubine.

And 'pilegesh' is the Hebrew word for concubine.

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:03 AM

Balcmeg does contain BAGEL, but I doubt CM satisfies the remaining clues....

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:07 AM

Based on Pervinca's reasoning, Grishnakh?

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:09 AM

Or Shagrat, whose name contains HAGAR.

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716321)
Based on Pervinca's reasoning, Grishnakh?


DING DING DING!

HAGAR + KNISH - A

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend
2. Get out? Nein! He's backwards!
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there.
4. Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!"
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last
7. Key crew! Activity will reveal him
8. He's a dunce on one side

FWIW, I believe to the best of my knowledge that these 8 individuals are the only characters in Tolkien who fit this pattern

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:16 AM

I still don't see the theme. As far as I know, those four have nothing in common......

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:19 AM

I'm intrigued by 440 ... it's 'page not found,' isn't it? How is it also A?

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:19 AM

Maybe the password is Halfhand, or Hurthand. Because.....all of their hands were hurt or lost.....

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 716326)
I'm intrigued by 440 ... it's 'page not found,' isn't it? How is it also A?


440 is A in music terms.....

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 716326)
I'm intrigued by 440 ... it's 'page not found,' isn't it? How is it also A?


standard tuning A is 440 Hertz

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716327)
Maybe the password is.... Hurthand. Because.....all of their hands were hurt or lost.....

BOOM goes the dynamite!

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend
2. ???U???: Get out? Nein! He's backwards!
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there.
4. ???T???Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!"
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last
7. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
8. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:21 AM

Is it that they lose a body part? Did Grishnakh end up losing his head?

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:22 AM

Ah ... ok!

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin (Post 716330)
BOOM goes the dynamite!


What does that mean....?

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:23 AM

One of them has to be Frodo, then.

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:26 AM

Nein is German for no. Isildur cut off Sauron's hand

2. Sauron?

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:26 AM

Maybe another is Isildur ... he wrote that the Ring was so hot that he doubted he would ever be free of the pain of it.

And I think Gollum said 'O my poor hands!' when remembering his torture.

And Isildur cut off one of Sauron's fingers.

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 11:28 AM

2 NO + RAUS, backwards

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow)
2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur)
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies)
4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril)
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril)
7. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
8. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side


It's also the case that all these characters were trying to obtain a Super Important Bit of Bling, but that class includes far more people

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716335)
Nein is German for no. Isildur cut off Sauron's hand

2. Sauron?

And 'Raus! means 'Get out!'

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:32 AM

8. Isildur? (I as roman numeral for 1, IS for is)

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:35 AM

7 must be either Dernhelm or Merry, who injured their hand fighting the Witch King. I believe that one of the essential crew activities is minding the helm.....


and 'DERN' sounds like 'TURN'.

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:36 AM

'Dur' as a sarcastic thing to say, implying someone is stupid?

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin (Post 716337)
2 NO + RAUS, backwards

1. GRISHNAKH: Arab handmaid ate Jewish pastry- the upset without 440 produced a fiend (sword-hand pierced by an arrow)
2. SAURON: Get out? Nein! He's backwards! (dactylectomy by Isildur)
3. BEREN: Remember England; he was in there. (wolf with the munchies)
4. ???T???: Bluetooth gets garbled after tea, so you'll have to unscramble him
5. MAEDHROS: He's like, "Crazy beach, crazy!" (hand amputated by Fingon, *and* burned by a Silmaril)
6. MAGLOR: Glam rocker without even thinking- he was the first and might be the last (burned by a Silmaril)
7. ???N???: Key crew! Activity will reveal him
8. ???D???: He's a dunce on one side


It's also the case that all these characters were trying to obtain a Super Important Bit of Bling, but that class includes far more people

Sauron had the Bling already ... but not for long.

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 11:38 AM

Merry and Eowyn had their arms injured, not their hands.

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:39 AM

I don't know whether Silmarils count as blings.

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:41 AM

What about Isildur?

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 11:44 AM

The whole theme was inspired by a wisecrack I once read, and used as my sig line here for a while: "Tolkien's writing is concerned primarily with disputes over the ownership of jewelry, and the hand injuries that occur as a result."

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No, not Isildur

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:46 AM

Morgoth's hands were also burned, and he fits w/bluetooth clue as well, but he was rejected as the solution for that clue.

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716344)
I don't know whether Silmarils count as blings.

Hey, that Iron Crown was one heck of a flashy fashion statement!

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:48 AM

But....speaking of hurt hands, my own signature comes to mind... :cool:

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716347)
Morgoth... fits w/bluetooth clue as well

Quote:

4. Morgoth (gorm+hot)
Um, no. What the heck is a gorm?

Urwen 05-10-2019 11:50 AM

How about Frodo as 8?

William Cloud Hicklin 05-10-2019 11:51 AM

You're going to have to solve clues, not just toss names out!

Pervinca Took 05-10-2019 11:51 AM

Frodo ... frod means wise, but the O on the other side of the red D could mean ... nothing?


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