Well, Mrs Bilbo could be Mary Morstan, Watson's screen wife. The actress was his real wife in real life, but Mary wasn't.
Unfortunately, Sherlock is a TV show, not a movie. Could say the same of Homily Clock, wife of Pod Clock in The Borrowers ... played by Ian Holm and his then wife, Penelope Wilton. That was a TV show too .... |
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Hang on ... the password isn't FEMALE, is it?
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1. FREDA - Morwen's daughter, sent away - A hobbit disenvowelled by everything - First contact (for many)
2. E - Lorien's unwitting betrayer - The classic dawn bird - The world turned upside-down 3. M - Mrs. Bilbo - A shiny rock, or perhaps a bit more like me - The first of its kind (ever) 4. A - The only female Nazgul - I'm out, I tripped (accented) - Under the iron crown 5. L - The princess of the shore - A Latin rock, an Elvish maid - Darkness in the darkness 6. EVANGELINE LILLY'S TAURIEL - Legolas' first best friend, but in real life... - Not a Maia, not a flower, and definitely not genderbent Orome - Just below Erebor It is! Very well done. So finding the rest of the answers should be simple. :D hS |
Did LUTHIEN and Beren live on a kind of island (which would have a shore) when they were in the Land of the Dead that Live?
And wasn't she darkness going into darkness as Thuringwethil into Angband? ... And did ESTE ever accidentally betray Irmo/Lorien? |
#4 Must be Adūnaphel, name given to the only female Nazgūl according to Iron Crown Enterprises. (Is the middle bit supposed to be a sound alike for "I'm down, I fell")?
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Neither Luthien or Este (though you're right, Luthien and Beren lived around Tol... Galen, I think?), but...
1. FREDA - Morwen's daughter, sent away - A hobbit disenvowelled by everything - First contact (for many) (LotR: TTT (Movie)) 2. E - Lorien's unwitting betrayer - The classic dawn bird - The world turned upside-down 3. M - Mrs. Bilbo - A shiny rock, or perhaps a bit more like me - The first of its kind (ever) 4. ADUNAPHEL - The only female Nazgul - I'm out, I tripped (accented) - Under the iron crown (Iron Crown Enterprises' MERP) 5. L - The princess of the shore - A Latin rock, an Elvish maid - Darkness in the darkness 6. EVANGELINE LILLY'S TAURIEL - Legolas' first best friend, but in real life... - Not a Maia, not a flower, and definitely not genderbent Orome - Just below Erebor (The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug) Nerwen, that's exactly the soundalike I was going for. ^_^ hS |
I looked up shiny rocks. There is a shiny mineral called Magnetite.
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#2: For 'classic' you might want to read 'classical'.
#3: Have you worked out what the third part of the clues is telling you about yet? #5: You might have more luck finding her mother, if you can work out her title. hS PS: No, it's not magnetite. The rock I'm thinking of can actually be transparent under some circumstances. |
It looks as if the third part of the clues refers to the source- is that right?
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And the third part of E seems to suggest the War of Wrath, but Este was a wrong guess and Eonwe is male.
There's ELBERETH .... Or is it ELWING, in bird form? |
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Is the "something" Tolkien- i.e. they're all adaptations?
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Assuming I'm right about that, I believe the "princess of the shore" is Lithariel from "Shadow of Mordor".
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1. FREDA - Morwen's daughter, sent away - A hobbit disenvowelled by everything - First contact (for many) (LotR: TTT (Movie)) 2. E - Lorien's unwitting betrayer - The classic dawn bird - The world turned upside-down 3. M - Mrs. Bilbo - A shiny rock, or perhaps a bit more like me - The first of its kind (ever) 4. ADUNAPHEL - The only female Nazgul - I'm out, I tripped (accented) - Under the iron crown (Iron Crown Enterprises' MERP) 5. LITHARIEL - The princess of the shore - A Latin rock, an Elvish maid - Darkness in the darkness (Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor) 6. EVANGELINE LILLY'S TAURIEL - Legolas' first best friend, but in real life... - Not a Maia, not a flower, and definitely not genderbent Orome - Just below Erebor (The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug) I'm actually playing this at the moment. Provided you ignore the entire plot, it's not too bad... :D Lithariel's first appearance was the moment I turned round and announced "I've just been recruited by an elf princess from Nurn." She's not actually an elf, so goodness knows what she's doing with that name... Anyway, Lithariel, lith + iel. hS |
Maybe they don't have Tolkien in common, at least directly?
Although you said there were no more 'film' clues. There was an invented elf-maiden in the LOTR musical, called ELRANIEN. She didn't betray Lorien, though. What is Shadow of Mordor? (The unedited version of this post was a cross-post). ... Is 'lith' elvish for something? |
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The first of its kind ever - possibly referring to the first adaptations?
In a search for answers I found this, where I discovered a great amount of disturbing details about the plots of early film attempts. Can't see a Mrs. Bilbo though. |
Tolkien thought of giving Bilbo a wife, of course, and making the hero of LOTR his son, but decided against it. AFAIK, he never created a wife for him or gave her a name.
I believe years ago there was a computer game of The Hobbit. Was there a Mrs Bilbo in that? |
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Edit: No, it was "Princess Mika". Mica for the rock, then- but how on Earth is that "more like you", Huey? Is your real name Mike? |
1. FREDA - Morwen's daughter, sent away - A hobbit disenvowelled by everything - First contact (for many) (LotR: TTT (Movie))
2. E - Lorien's unwitting betrayer - The classic dawn bird - The world turned upside-down 3. MIKA MILOVANA - Mrs. Bilbo - A shiny rock, or perhaps a bit more like me - The first of its kind (ever) (The 1966 Hobbit film) 4. ADUNAPHEL - The only female Nazgul - I'm out, I tripped (accented) - Under the iron crown (Iron Crown Enterprises' MERP) 5. LITHARIEL - The princess of the shore - A Latin rock, an Elvish maid - Darkness in the darkness (Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor) 6. EVANGELINE LILLY'S TAURIEL - Legolas' first best friend, but in real life... - Not a Maia, not a flower, and definitely not genderbent Orome - Just below Erebor (The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug) I never said it might be "more like you" - I said "more like ME", because 'Mika' looks like it could well be pronounced 'MEE-ka'. :D Tolkien Gateway says Princess Mika (who does indeed marry Bilbo, in the first ever Tolkien movie - the 12 minute 1966 Hobbit adaptation) was named after someone's daughter, but given Pervina's mention of Princess Mee, I'm left wondering if she might be another inspiration. 'Milovana' (surely the least Tolkienian name ever to appear in a Tolkien adaptation) is apparently Czech, which actually takes us fairly geographically close to the final answer, #2, which you won't find on the usual Tolkien wikis. It is on Wikipedia, though. hS |
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The hint that classic could be 'classical' had me looking at operas ... but I could only find Vogel ... and lark is out ('Lark Ascending' is the most famous piece of classical music I know that refers to a bird). Maybe we need to look for a bird from Greek or Roman mythology, then. EDIT: OK, scrap that. Unless the Czech Republic is close enough to Italy and Greece. EDIT 2: Ah ... the cryptic 2nd bit could be from classical mythology, perhaps. |
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I'm probably more into paleontology than mythology, as it happens. :) hS |
There is Aethon, sometimes written as Ethon in English. It's the name of the eagle who tormented Prometheus (by eating his liver every night, I believe. Not sure if Chianti was readily available then).
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Gosh, wasn't it? :D It may have been a serious hint, though.
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EOS.
A Greek goddess known as dawn bird, according to Wikipedia (so it must be right, yeah? :D) |
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Aside from PTERO, there is POULI as a word that means "bird", but I can't think of prehistoric or ME creatures that have this part. |
I've nothing to add to that, G55, but would like you to know how much I love your cheery daffodil avatar. Yes, I know it's not new. I've just never said it before. ;)
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Eo- is a lovely prefix for dawn (it occurs in Eohippus, the Dawn Horse, which was about the size of a large dog). I'm not sure I know of Eos specifically as a bird, though - my understanding was that she was simply The Dawn. (Nor is the bird Pouli; Eopouli would be excessively non-Tolkienian.)
Oh, and you want to be a bit further east than Poland. ^_^ hS PS: Fascinating trivia about the liver! Thanks, G55. |
Germany?
ELVELLON have an album called 'Until Dawn,' and they're all birds. :D Their music sounds really good, anyway. I couldn't find a direct Tolkien link, but maybe I didn't look hard enough. |
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East, Pervinca.:p
Huey does seem to be telling us to look for Eo-something... |
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