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Old 02-20-2013, 05:44 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by EluThingol View Post
I love the Children of Hurin.

Are these characteristics not WITHIN them? I almost feel like their downfall was more because of their pride... and less of Morgoth's will. Unless their over-pride WAS his will, which is kind of a stretch.
This is one of those quantum things:

Is it a particle?
Is it a wave?

or the Heisenburg uncertainty principle where we can either measure an object's position or velocity but not both at once, even when an object clearly has both.

There is a tale in a series called Babylon 5 where some telepaths take a guy (called Garibaldi) and heighten his natural suspiciousness to manipulate him to their own ends. Once one allows for such things as telepathy, which does exist in ME, then Morgoth manipulating Hurin and his family through their pride is not such a stretch.
We see everything from behind, and it looks brutal. That is not a tree, but the back of a tree ...everything is stooping and hiding a face. ~ G.K. Chesterton
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