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Old 05-07-2019, 04:57 PM   #2641
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I'm going to bed too. G'nite.
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:04 PM   #2642
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ETA: Wait. I was mistaken. Pippin is you, meaning nobody took his shot, he took someone else.

In which case, 'I' is Grima, who literally threw the Palantir that Pippin took.
Bravo! Untangling the "I" and "you" roles helps a lot with this. And once you did that, you hit on the right answer!

"You" is Pippin, who reveals the location of the Fellowship by throwing the stone into the well.
"I" is Grima, who reveals Saruman's connection with Sauron by throwing out the palantir.
Pippin picks up the palantir but doesn't get the appreciation he thinks he deserves (the entitled teenager )

So the final question: who is the bigger fool?




(Kidding. You've answered all the actual parts of the riddle. I think both characters were quite foolish in their own ways, but Pippin was the luckier fool of the two as his blunders often turned to something good half by accident.)
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Old 05-08-2019, 01:52 AM   #2643
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Then solve this one

Twins are we
Imbued with his hate
Our lives are very different
Yet we shared the same fate

One remained in the fires
Where the turncoat was slain
The other inside the earth
Till the time comes for it to rise again
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:51 AM   #2644
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:59 AM   #2645
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Explanation:

Twins are we
Imbued with his hate
-both made by Eöl out of meteoric iron and said to contain his "dark heart".
Our lives are very different
Yet we shared the same fate
-perhaps in the sense of being ultimately abandoned? Or having all their wielders die?

One remained in the fires
Where the turncoat was slain
-Anguirel, left in the ruins of Gondolin.
The other inside the earth
Till the time comes for it to rise again
-Anglachel aka Gurthang, buried with Túrin.
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Old 05-08-2019, 03:13 AM   #2646
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A good explanation, and the correct one.
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Old 05-08-2019, 09:02 PM   #2647
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I won't have time to come up with another one for a day or so. If you have one ready, you can go instead.
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Old 05-09-2019, 01:55 AM   #2648
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Does that apply for 6 degrees thread too?
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Anyway, this one is to draw your attention to yet another parallel I found interesting.

You, who suffered loss
I, descended from your brother
What were our thoughts
When everything we loved was torn asunder?

You, who cried out in despair
Thus aiding the Enemy as he had planned
He had once declared
That you and your kin shall be damned

Me, who had to watch
As my home fell to ruin
Yet he wasn't someone I could dispatch
In silence, I had to endure

You and I, we knew suffering, we knew pain
Alone and in silence, when we lost it all
Here at the end, everything we did was in vain
The Sea had taken us, with its waves tall
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Oh, and I want you to try and solve this one, Huinesoron, for ~reasons
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:54 AM   #2651
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Well! 'You and your kin shall be damned' immediately points to the House of Hurin, of whom one member wound up in the sea - Hurin himself (as you reminded me). He also cried out in despair at the Hidden Way into Gondolin, thus revealing the city.

'Descended from your brother' means we're looking at the Huor-Tuor line, which means the Halfelven and the Numenorean-Dunedain nobility. I'm... trying very hard to find someone other than Tar-Miriel who fits, but I can't. She's simply got too many connections - with Pharazon as 'someone I could[n't] dispatch', and the Fall of Numenor as a whole. So my answer is Tar-Miriel speaking to Hurin Thalion. And the 'reasons' are because we literally just had that conversation (and possibly you were trying to trick me and make me think you meant Nienor, not Hurin).

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Well! 'You and your kin shall be damned' immediately points to the House of Hurin, of whom one member wound up in the sea - Hurin himself (as you reminded me). He also cried out in despair at the Hidden Way into Gondolin, thus revealing the city.

'Descended from your brother' means we're looking at the Huor-Tuor line, which means the Halfelven and the Numenorean-Dunedain nobility. I'm... trying very hard to find someone other than Tar-Miriel who fits, but I can't. She's simply got too many connections - with Pharazon as 'someone I could[n't] dispatch', and the Fall of Numenor as a whole. So my answer is Tar-Miriel speaking to Hurin Thalion. And the 'reasons' are because we literally just had that conversation (and possibly you were trying to trick me and make me think you meant Nienor, not Hurin).

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That's the answer, and that's the reason. Well, that and the fact that you hold her in high regard, as do I.

Are you up for continuing the game?
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The riddle game itself? With the last line referring to egg.
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The riddle game itself? With the last line referring to egg.
Only the last line?

Can you tell me who 'the elderly' refers to, what the lesson is, and what the treasure is?

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Only the last line?

Can you tell me who 'the elderly' refers to, what the lesson is, and what the treasure is?

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The treasure is the inside of the egg, of course. The elderly are Gollum and Bilbo themselves. The lesson is learning the answers as they come.
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Does that apply for 6 degrees thread too?
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The treasure is the inside of the egg, of course. The elderly are Gollum and Bilbo themselves. The lesson is learning the answers as they come.
No, no, and no, I'm afraid. You might want to think about whether your answer ("The riddle game itself") is specific enough.

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Well, you confirmed that it is, only that the details are wrong.
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Well, you confirmed that it is, only that the details are wrong.
Nooooo I didn't. I said something slightly different that points at what the true answer to my riddle is.

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The Red Book of Westmarch, known to us fans as 'The Hobbit' then?
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The Red Book of Westmarch, known to us fans as 'The Hobbit' then?
When I said "think about whether it's specific enough", I meant you needed to be more specific, not less. As in, you should stick with your answer, but focus it a bit more.

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When I said "think about whether it's specific enough", I meant you needed to be more specific, not less. As in, you should stick with your answer, but focus it a bit more.

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Hence why I said you said it was more or less correct, but you denied it.....

Anyway

Long will you think ere the elderly's lesson
Comes to your mind to continue the session
Puzzle me out, do as you are bid
You may find the answer, but treasure stays hid.

The 'what have I got in my pocket' riddle? The answer is found after a long time by Gollum, but the treasure (The One Ring) remains hidden from him.
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Hence why I said you said it was more or less correct, but you denied it.....

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Puzzle me out, do as you are bid
You may find the answer, but treasure stays hid.

The 'what have I got in my pocket' riddle? The answer is found after a long time by Gollum, but the treasure (The One Ring) remains hidden from him.
You're right about 'long will you think' and the treasure which stays hid, but not about which riddle I'm thinking of. (For one thing, the game - 'the session' - was over before Gollum figured out what was in his pocket.)

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Well, in that case.....


Long will you think - But just as Bilbo was beginning to hope that the wretch would not be able to answer
ere the elderly's lesson
Comes to your mind to continue the session - Gollum brought up memories of ages and ages and ages before, when he lived with his grandmother in a hole in a bank by a river
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You may find the answer, but treasure stays hid. - "Sss, sss, my preciouss," he said. "Sun on the daisies it means, it does."
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Is it specifically the part of the Riddle Game where Gollum has to find the answer to the egg riddle?

Long will you think ere the elderly's lesson
Comes to your mind to continue the session
-Gollum was stymied by the seemingly easy riddle, until he recalled a long-ago memory of (literally) teaching his grandmother to suck eggs.
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-He answered that riddle correctly, but could not find the treasure *he* cared about- the Ring.

Edit: x'd with the last few posts- may have been answered already.
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Is it specifically the part of the Riddle Game where Gollum has to find the answer to the egg riddle?

Long will you think ere the elderly's lesson
Comes to your mind to continue the session
-Gollum was stymied by the seemingly easy riddle, until he recalled a long-ago memory of (literally) teaching his grandmother to suck eggs.
Puzzle me out, do as you are bid
You may find the answer, but treasure stays hid.
-He answered that riddle correctly, but could not find the treasure *he* cared about- the Ring.

Edit: x'd with the last few posts- may have been answered already.
That's the one. The 'teach grandma to suck eggs' joke flew right by my for years and years, so I figure it was only fair to work it into a riddle.

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I will continue this, for now.

Large were we
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We were taken away
Only to be killed by mighty flames

If Nerwen decides to make his/her own riddle, it will replace mine, but for now, enjoy.
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I will continue this, for now.

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If Nerwen decides to make his/her own riddle, it will replace mine, but for now, enjoy.
"His/her"? Somebody's taking my screenname awfully literally!

And yes, you may proceed.

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"His/her"? Somebody's taking my screenname awfully literally!

And yes, you may proceed.

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Nope, it's just that I am not sure what your pronoun is and I want to be on the safe side.
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Is it the ships of the Teleri?
Yes, and I am out of riddles for now.
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G55, Huinesoron, got any?
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G55, Huinesoron, got any?
None ready at the moment. Are we doing a free-for-all until Nerwen reclaims her turn?
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:36 PM   #2675
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None ready at the moment. Are we doing a free-for-all until Nerwen reclaims her turn?
That's what she said.
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Old 05-10-2019, 02:11 AM   #2676
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How about now?
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:32 PM   #2677
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Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.
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Lo! I have returned!

Forth I went to meet despair-
They said they'd wait 'til back I came.
Yet here's another in my place-
We're not the same,
But no-one cares.
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Old 05-11-2019, 02:33 AM   #2678
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Hurin, whose lands were usurped by Easterlings?
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Old 05-11-2019, 02:35 AM   #2679
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Nope.
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Old 05-11-2019, 02:38 AM   #2680
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So it's someone who said they'd wait until someone else returns, but did not?
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