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Old 03-17-2003, 08:01 PM   #1
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ok peeps, who do you prefer? haldir or legolas? i prefer haldir myslef. adn glorfindel over arwen. oh and i'm not exactly a newbie...been here a long time...but ya know, things happen!!! but you can still welcome me anywayz! lol, hasta! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]


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Old 03-17-2003, 08:05 PM   #2
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I can't decide... because the oned you mentioned are all some of my favorite characters. Legolas, Haldir, Glorfindel, Elrond, and of course Halbarad but you didn't mention him. And Ioreth. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 03-17-2003, 08:12 PM   #3
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wait wait, i also like Alalminore, Eriol, Androg and Aldarion. man, i like A-names huh? lol! ever read the unfinished tales? i'm still trying to get through the lost ones. they are really confuzzling. too many names!!! mand, tolkien was a sure genious! =)
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Between Haldir and Legolas? I'd take Haldir, mostly because I find him more attractive than Legolas and less of a "pretty-boy".
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Old 03-17-2003, 08:13 PM   #5
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yeah, I am also still in Lost Tales. I like em! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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I don't really like how some people consider Legolas a 'pretty-boy'. Legolas himself is a warrior, a skilled and trained warrior. Just because he has a trail of fangirls does not make him a pretty boy. I prefer Legolas to Haldir, because he is more developed. However, Lorien Elves are my favourite Elves, so I prefer Haldir in that way. I can't choose. But one thing is for sure, Legolas is no 'pretty-boy'.
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I like both Legolas and Haldir equally, but I do prefer Glorfindel to Arwen.

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I'd take Haldir, mostly because I find him more attractive than Legolas and less of a "pretty-boy".
You've stumbled into the wrong forum, I believe. There's a forum specifically for discussion of the movies. As far as the book goes, you can imagine Haldir and Legolas as being as attractive as you want them to be, keeping in mind that elves are attractive. The books do not describe Legolas as a 'pretty boy' at all. Someone drew a picture depicting him as such - the picture angered Tolkien. Christopher Tolkien tells us what he had to say in The Book of Lost Tales II:

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I'd also like to state it plain and clear; the Legolas portrayed in the movie is NOT Legolas. It's Orlando Bloom in a wig. And although he did an excellent job (in my opinion) portraying Legolas, he is in no way the actual Legolas that Tolkien created. Neither is the man that plays Haldir (I don't know hiw name.) He is just someone's portrayal of Haldir, and not the actual Tolkien created Haldir. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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I'd also like to state it plain and clear; the Legolas portrayed in the movie is NOT Legolas. It's Orlando Bloom in a wig. And although he did an excellent job (in my opinion) portraying Legolas, he is in no way the actual Legolas that Tolkien created. Neither is the man that plays Haldir (I don't know hiw name.) He is just someone's portrayal of Haldir, and not the actual Tolkien created Haldir.
His name is Craig Parker (Haldir). And i find your comment thorough and true. Thats the only problem with the movies i beleive. Producing Tolkien's characters with actors will never draw close to what Tolkien had in mind. Even though the actors did a fine job (nothing against the actors) the whole perception of what Tolkien thought isnt there...They are after all actors (taking on the character of another person etc)
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Old 03-19-2003, 01:31 PM   #12
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I was assuming, since the original poster had a picture of Craig Parker as Haldir in their post, that they were specifically asking of the movie portrayals. I beg your pardon, but I still stay behind my opinion. I didn't care much for Legolas in the books either.
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Somehow, before I had seen the movies, I just didn't think about Legolas as a character. Same with Gimli. They were just, well, there. If you had asked me this question before I had seen the movies, I would either have said "who's Haldir?" or thought a moment, remembered who he was, and decided I had no opinion on the subject as they were both under- described. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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I like both Legolas and Haldir (books and movie) though I have to admit that at first, Haldir kind of scared me. I think the entire aura of the Lorien elves scared me, but it's strange because that same aura is what draws me to them now. I like both Legolas and Haldir the same, and I could never decide on either. The only thing I don't like is how some people judge Legolas as a pretty boy or a conceited elf simply because the actor who plays him in a movie has a following of rabid girls. It's just not fair.
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yeah same here. but in the film the actor who plays haldir seems to chubby for an elf! does anyone agree with me?! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] This is my Lord of the Rings Webpage! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]
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i also think that haldir in the film looked a bit chubby for an elf, but i still prefer haldir to legolas. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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I have always liked Legolas. When I was small I always remembered him always, he seemed to be the one that stood out the most. I dont know why though, It might have been the name!
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i also think that haldir in the film looked a bit chubby for an elf, but i still prefer haldir to legolas.

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Yeah well from the books I like them both. They are cool, even though there is more stuff (or "book time") on LEgolas. But in the movie: i like Legolas, that might be because there is more about him and stuff. And in real life: They are both really cute and stuff but i like Orlando Bloom better. I mean they are both cute and all but he is cuter.


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Old 03-20-2003, 06:35 PM   #19
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ya know? he did look a bit chubby in the movie...they all did in the second one!!! i mean frofro and sam really were packing on the pounds there! HAHAHAHA, ok, shutting up.
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Hello! In the books, Legolas is not a pretty boy! Those are just stupid jokes! Anyway, characterwise I like both of them about the same. Maybe Legolas a bit more cause he was in the Fellowship. Both Haldir and Legolas show bravery and loyalty in the books. Moviewise, I dunno. I mean, Legolas isn't all he could be in the movie, Haldir is way more. I'm not dissing Legolas though. He just should have had a better part. Haldir was super awesome in TTT, even though he died and he wasn't supposed to! He did kinda seem a little freaky in FOTR. Lol! Anyway, that's my opinion. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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I think that I like Haldir better b/c in the movies, I think they made Legolas out o be too much of a pansy; Haldir actually falls in battle in the TT. Does he actually do that in the book though? I need to go check that... but any way, Legolas is very overly idolized by just about every female in the species, so I like Haldir better. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Ummmm you mean you need to read the books right? The elves don't even come to helms deep. They took out the Dunedain (or the rangers) and replaced then with the elves. cept in the first book Haldir does not appear in LOTR agin. So yeah he doesn't die @ Helms Deep. And how is he a "pretty" boy in the books? Elves are supposed to be the butifulest people (or "things") on Middle earth. So yeah.
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hey hey!! no, Haldir doesn't die in the book...his character just wasn't that developed in the movie, so they could kill him off no prob. but yeah, he is my fav character too. legolas is chickish for me. one question....is he like royalty (haldir) or just like a guard of lorien???
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Legolas.
I haven't read the book (yet) *feels really ashamed* and, because Legolas is one of the main characters, I know him better than Haldir. That's why I prefer Legolas, I think. He's so cool. And I'm not a fangirl and I'm NOT going to say he's a pretty boy! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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Legolas is my favourite character in the hole movie!!!I tried to read the book but i find it boring!!!I'm still in the first book dose it get better????

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i like both of them...at first i like legolas but then i came to appreciate both legolas AND Haldir, lol! tata!
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Haldir is pretty cool, but I personally like Legolas much better. (No it's not 'cause of Orlando Bloom... LOTR is the first time I've ever saw a movie with him in it.) I didn't appreciate however, how for the movie they cut out a lot of his humor (he doesn't sing in the movie either). Also... drives me crazy about how so many people call him a pretty boy. He's an ELF!!! He's supposed to be good looking! Also, I've noticed that people tend to downplay his archery skills... The book Legolas definately had alot more depth to him... but they did a pretty good job in my opinion.
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In the movies, I liked Legolas better because you got to see more of him and I've always liked him from the books.

In the books, I like Haldir better because... I don't know. I just thought he was so cool in the books. But, yeah, he did look kind of chubby in the movie...
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Elrowen Greenleaf I agree with you. If people are saying that he is a pretty boy, well they got it right, he is supposed to be. lol. Yeah the book leggy is so much cool than they made him out to be in the movie, they messed up a lot of different characters (ie Farimir)
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One almost wants to like Haldir better simply because of the way he was abused in the movie TTT but I do like him best both in the books and the movies, although I agree with all those who said he was a mite chubby.
Edit: Upon re-reading this post I realized it was a truly amazing run-on sentence. Sorry!

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I like Legolas better (thanx orlando bloom!!!) because of his asthetic qualities and because of his horse riding skills and archery skills. But in the books Haldir was so much cooler and friendly, plus in the TTT movie, it doesnt help that he dies.
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Haldir is soo kool! Definetly Haldir. He defines cool. And it was so incredibly sad in TTT when he died. I couldn't believe what I saw!
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I don't mean that he is a "pretty" boy, b/c yu are right, harlindon, he is supposed to be beautiful and elegant. But they make him out to be a pansy boy, b/c he doesn't do any of the things in the movie that he does in the book, and b/c his character has become idolized by girls( and women). I had no intention of down-playing the beauty of elves.
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Well, Haldir, in my opinion, is a lot like the older version of Legolas.
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Silmaril

Since first reading the books, I have always been drawn to the Silvan elves and always really liked Legolas. It gave us a view of elves apart from Elrond and Galadriel who seemed too wise and noble to be very approachable. Haldir was a very small part in the books. So I would have to pick Legolas.

In the movies although I cried when they killed Haldir, I would still pick Legolas.

GLORFINDEL, GLORFINDEL, GLORFINDEL...
How dare they give his part to Arwen. Although I doubt they could have found an actor that would have lived up to my idea of what he looked like from the description in the books.

Gosh I have to go have a cold drink before I swoon thinking about all these beautiful elves. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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