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Old 08-02-2021, 04:50 PM   #11521
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Maybe 'the tall' means a character referred to as 'the Tall,' like Elendil.
It does. Now look for another name.

(The tall: ) game of removal | a short Russian (holds the) | [three of | diamonds (fake)] (at the back).

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SILMARIEN - An older sister, almost a maid, lies nearly backward at first. - ...the Elendilmir itself, the white star of Elvish crystal upon a fillet of mithril that had descended from Silmarien...
TELCONTAR - The king is back - let a criminal rat be back too. - ...before all went Aragorn... and upon his brow was the Star of Elendil.
AZRUBEL - From beginning to end, a massage from the midst of Hell for the father of kings. - ...Eärendil... stood now most often at the prow of Vingilot, and the Silmaril was bound upon his brow...
4. R - The tall game of removal: a short Russian holds the three of diamonds (fake) at the back.
BAUGLIR - Look northward, bow, glare - or something like that, anyway. - ...the Silmarils in the crown on Morgoth's head blazed forth suddenly with a radiance of white flame...
ELROHIR - Break a hire around a torn and shortened roll, end up younger by half. - ...and Elladan and Elrohir with stars on their brow...
FEANARO - Turn tail, jeweller! Fear the doubled vowel with no injection. - ...at great feasts Fëanor would wear them, blazing on his brow...
ARWEN - In the middle of the evening, they are when you forget, eh? - ...Arwen... glimmering in the evening, with stars on her brow and a sweet fragrance about her...

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Old 08-02-2021, 06:29 PM   #11522
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Game of removal ...

Got it!

Strip poker!
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Old 08-03-2021, 04:28 AM   #11523
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Game of removal ...

Got it!

Strip poker!
Correct! Strippocerru, the Avarin bard who wrote the famous ballad My People Were Fair and Had Sky in Their Hair... But Now They're Content to Wear Stars on Their Brows.

No, wait.

So: the game is a mathematical one that apparently originated in China. The short Russian I think we've got. The diamonds (fake)... well, I did my master's project in crystallography if that helps, but no chemical knowledge is required. Three is three.

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Old 08-03-2021, 04:57 AM   #11524
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Hmmm.

NIM-RU-ZIR, if such a person exists?

ZIR for 3 letters from Zircona?

'NIM' means 'take' - Modern German 'nehmen' with an Old English cognate. Hence NYM, a petty thief in the Henry IV plays.

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Gadzooks! It's only the Adunaic name for the conspicuously absent Elendil the Tall! From 'Nimruzirim,' meaning Elf-Friends, I do believe.
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Old 08-03-2021, 06:18 AM   #11525
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Hmmm.

NIM-RU-ZIR, if such a person exists?

ZIR for 3 letters from Zircona?

'NIM' means 'take' - Modern German 'nehmen' with an Old English cognate. Hence NYM, a petty thief in the Henry IV plays.

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Gadzooks! It's only the Adunaic name for the conspicuously absent Elendil the Tall! From 'Nimruzirim,' meaning Elf-Friends, I do believe.
Bingo! (Not that Bingo.) Nim is a game - a relative of the one where you count to 21 in ones, twos, and threes. And cubic zirconia for the jewel.

SILMARIEN - An older sister, almost a maid, lies nearly backward at first. - ...the Elendilmir itself, the white star of Elvish crystal upon a fillet of mithril that had descended from Silmarien...
TELCONTAR - The king is back - let a criminal rat be back too. - ...before all went Aragorn... and upon his brow was the Star of Elendil.
AZRUBEL - From beginning to end, a massage from the midst of Hell for the father of kings. - ...Eärendil... stood now most often at the prow of Vingilot, and the Silmaril was bound upon his brow...
NIMRUZIR - The tall game of removal: a short Russian holds the three of diamonds (fake) at the back. - ...the Elendilmir... had descended from Silmarien to Elendil, and had been taken by him as the token of royalty in the North Kingdom.
BAUGLIR - Look northward, bow, glare - or something like that, anyway. - ...the Silmarils in the crown on Morgoth's head blazed forth suddenly with a radiance of white flame...
ELROHIR - Break a hire around a torn and shortened roll, end up younger by half. - ...and Elladan and Elrohir with stars on their brow...
FEANARO - Turn tail, jeweller! Fear the doubled vowel with no injection. - ...at great feasts Fëanor would wear them, blazing on his brow...
ARWEN - In the middle of the evening, they are when you forget, eh? - ...Arwen... glimmering in the evening, with stars on her brow and a sweet fragrance about her...

Other attested starbrows are Nimrodel, Isildur (wearing the Elendilmir when he died), Valandil (for whom the second Elendilmir was made), and Erendis ("thus she was known far and wide as Tar-Elestirnë, the Lady of the Star-brow"). The other Kings of Arnor probably wore the second Elendilmir, but they're not individually confirmed. There's also a line in UT which implies the later Numenorean Kings and Queens followed Erendis' example, but it's none too solid. And of course, there's Smith of Wootton Major, from whom the term comes.

Tolkien really liked tying gems to people's foreheads, is what I'm saying.

Over to you, Pervinca, and good job everyone!
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Old 08-03-2021, 07:08 AM   #11526
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That was another excellent password, especially given how hard it's getting to think of new themes.

I found NIM by googling for mathematical games of removal, since I knew Suduko was about insertion, not removal, and didn't know any others. I just added the etymology comments as a thought on the side.

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1. A place for a soap opera?
2. Could be a pioneer girl; could leapfrog for a listening exam.
3. He’s monstrous in Galaxy Quest.
4. They’re very musical.
5. Twelfth king, or one of Martin’s women?
6. A city on the Orontes. Is he?
7. She’s fragrant, and Chaucerian.
8. She was a Seventies copper. Different gender, though.
9. That Crabtree! He’s a rugby player!
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:37 AM   #11527
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Some of Martin's women are named Walda, and so is the 12th King of Rohan
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6. And googling city on the Orontes gives me Hama.
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9. Eorl?

I can see the theme forming. The only hurdle is that Eglantine doesn't fit...
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3 doesn't seem to match any Tolkien name. The closest I can get is Gorignak...
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1. A place for a soap opera?
2. Could be a pioneer girl; could leapfrog for a listening exam.
3. He’s monstrous in Galaxy Quest.
4. They’re very musical.
WALDA: Twelfth king, or one of Martin’s women?
HAMA: A city on the Orontes. Is he?
EGLANTINE: She’s fragrant, and Chaucerian.
8. She was a Seventies copper. Different gender, though.
EORL: That Crabtree! He’s a rugby player!
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3 doesn't seem to match any Tolkien name. The closest I can get is Gorignak...

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If it had been correct, I would have put it in.
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If it had been correct, I would have put it in.

Well, none of the other characters fit, hence the question marks...
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Okay, so for 2...if 'listening' = 'aural' and 'exam' = 'grubb test', it adds up to Laura Grubb.
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Also, for 1, are we talking about a specific soap opera?


Then again, you won't see these until sometime tomorrow, so I won't hold my breath.
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Well, none of the other characters fit, hence the question marks...
None of the other characters fit what?
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E A place for a soap opera?
LAURA: Could be a pioneer girl; could leapfrog for a listening exam.
S He’s monstrous in Galaxy Quest.
E They’re very musical.
WALDA: Twelfth king, or one of Martin’s women?
HAMA: A city on the Orontes. Is he?
EGLANTINE: She’s fragrant, and Chaucerian.
R She was a Seventies copper. Different gender, though.
EORL: That Crabtree! He’s a rugby player!

Yes, a specific soap opera.

No, not Somerset.

Laura Ingalls Wilder was a pioneer girl. An aural test is part of Modern Language exams. Laura Grubb is the only Laura I know of in the Legendarium, but I don't know anything about a Grubb test.
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None of the other characters fit what?

Well, I've looked at Galaxy Quest characters and none of them has a Tolkien name.
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4. Elves?
1. Everdale?
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E A place for a soap opera?
LAURA: Could be a pioneer girl; could leapfrog for a listening exam.
S He advocates teenage kicks.
E They’re very musical.
WALDA: Twelfth king, or one of Martin’s women?
HAMA: A city on the Orontes. Is he?
EGLANTINE: She’s fragrant, and Chaucerian.
R She was a Seventies copper. Different gender, though.
EORL: That Crabtree! He’s a rugby player!

Sorry - truly believed the monster in Galaxy Quest was called Saeros. But it's Sarris.

I have therefore found another answer for that one, and rewritten the clue.

No to all recent guesses.
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Maybe some hints, plural?
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Hints soon. Let's let the others have a go first.

No to Rose. But close.
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I am trying to make sense of these, but nothing seems to fit.


Like, I've even tried picking up some names and going backwards, but I reached a dead end every time...
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Let's let the others have a go first.

And they won't. Because if they wanted to, they would've made some guesses by now. But whatever, you do you and wait for something that won't happen anytime soon. >.>

Know why? Because they would rather let all the games die than spent five minutes of their lives to keep them active. :c
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Why would a copper be a 70s copper?

A 70s TV copper. With a girl's name.

A comedic one.

Google is your friend.

All answers also exist as names or phenomena in the 'real' world or in other works of fiction - hence the password 'Elsewhere.'
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By a 'copper', you mean 'cop'?
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Google is your friend.

Clearly not. I've searched for '1970 tv cop' and used alternative wordings too, and nothing relevant comes up.
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E1: I don't suppose there's an EAST END somewhere, maybe in the Shire? (I somehow doubt there's an Emmerdale.)

R: Best guess is this is another Life on Mars clue, but nobody's jumping out of the character list.

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Old 08-04-2021, 02:44 AM   #11557
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R must be Rowan.

As for the second E, I think we should look at the bands with a Tolkien connection. There is one called Ainur, but it doesn't have an E...
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Old 08-04-2021, 02:51 AM   #11558
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4. Ephel Duath?
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Old 08-04-2021, 06:02 AM   #11559
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EAST END: A place for a soap opera?
LAURA: Could be a pioneer girl; could leapfrog for a listening exam.
S He advocates teenage kicks.
E They’re very musical.
WALDA: Twelfth king, or one of Martin’s women?
HAMA: A city on the Orontes. Is he?
EGLANTINE: She’s fragrant, and Chaucerian.
R She was a Seventies copper. Different gender, though.
EORL: That Crabtree! He’s a rugby player!

Further to my apology about Saeros, it really DOES sound like Saeros in an American accent! (Sarris from Galaxy Quest).

On this occasion, the 70s cop is not from the 'Life On Mars' universe. When I said comedic, I meant FULLY comedic. There was a gentle late 70s/I think early 80's comedy about a copper in northern England. The title of this is both his nickname and the answer to R.

You're on the right track for the first E, and might apply the same kind of logic to the new clue I have written for the new answer for S. Both have a musical connection, but neither of them are connected to 'inspired by Tolkien' music.

I saw East End when I was looking something else up on the Encyclopaedia of Arda. I think it's up Rohan way.
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Old 08-04-2021, 06:18 AM   #11560
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So it's not Rowan?
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