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Old 09-18-2002, 02:40 PM   #1
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White-Hand Is Arwen a reincarnation of Luthien the Fair?!!!

Just wondering, But does anyone else get the general feeling that Arwen is the reincarnation of Luthien Tinuviel?!!!!!
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Old 09-18-2002, 02:50 PM   #2
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No, I don't get that feeling. She was her great-great-granddaughter and looks something like her, and shared her doom. But my understanding is that's about it.
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Old 09-18-2002, 03:00 PM   #3
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Tolkien once got a letter like this and said that she was not the inncarnation of Luthien. Luthien was turned from and Elf to a Woman and when she died her spirit left Middle-Earth and never returned. Arwen therefore can't be her spirit in another form as Luthien is long gone, her spirit far from Middle-Earth. However Tolkien did say that they were extremly similar and shared a similar fate. They even looked so alike that when Aragorn first saw Arwen he called to her with the name Luthien.
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Old 09-18-2002, 03:52 PM   #4
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In FoTR, chapter many meetings, it does say that in Arwen thet it was considered that the likeness of Luthien had come back to Middle Earth, but not that she had been reincarnated as Arwen.
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Old 09-18-2002, 06:01 PM   #5
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Well, I have a great-great-grandfather that I look a lot alike. And since Arwen was Luthien's great-great-granddaughter she probably looked at lot like her. She also looked a lot like her father Elrond.
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Old 09-18-2002, 08:44 PM   #6
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Though what I may say here is a bit off, I think It's sort of like the genes skipping every after generation. So Lutien's genes landed on Arwen at the right time, only better than the other generations before her.

Just a thought.
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Old 09-19-2002, 02:23 AM   #7
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My son, years come when hope will fade, and beyond them little is clear to me. And now a shadow lies between us. Maybe, it has been appointed so, that by my loss the kingship of Men may be restored. Therefore, though I love you, I say to you: Arwen Undomiel shall not diminish her life's grace for less cause. She shall not be te bride of any Man less than the King of both Gondor and Arnor.
If Arwen did not look like Luthien would Aragorn have loved her? If not, what of the quote above?
Perhaps her likeness to Luthien was not merely a chance of genetics.
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