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Old 06-11-2019, 09:20 AM   #2801
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Not Gandalf's 'rescue' of Theoden?

(I have a feeling I am getting colder).
Well that's a very grim description of Edoras.

This riddle is actually entirely literal.

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Under shadow, under earth,
By foul magics hid from sight.
To the deepest place I venture,
And its denizen bring to light.

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Old 06-11-2019, 09:25 AM   #2802
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Sam's rescue of Frodo?
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:27 AM   #2803
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Sam's rescue of Frodo?
I can see where you're going with that, but no.

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Old 06-11-2019, 09:28 AM   #2804
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If it weren't for your hints, I'd say Beleg, or Gwindor.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:31 AM   #2805
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If it weren't for your hints, I'd say Beleg, or Gwindor.
They wouldn't fit the whole riddle, though.

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Old 06-11-2019, 09:31 AM   #2806
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Well that's a very grim description of Edoras.

This riddle is actually entirely literal.

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Under shadow, under earth,
By foul magics hid from sight.
To the deepest place I venture,
And its denizen bring to light.

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But if it's entirely literal, there's nowhere deeper than the depths of Moria, unless you're talking about an obscure mermaid or something. Or a castaway Silmaril (which would take us into the future).
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:34 AM   #2807
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Wait, then the speaker themselves are hidden from sight by evil magics, as opposed to the place they ventured to? And yet, they bring someone to light, implying that they are a good person......
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:40 AM   #2808
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But if it's entirely literal, there's nowhere deeper than the depths of Moria, unless you're talking about an obscure mermaid or something. Or a castaway Silmaril (which would take us into the future).
The implication is 'deepest in [somewhere]', not globally deepest. I could never calculate whether Utumno, Moria, or Mandos ran deepest.

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Wait, then the speaker themselves are hidden from sight by evil magics, as opposed to the place they ventured to? And yet, they bring someone to light, implying that they are a good person......
Yes and yes.

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Old 06-11-2019, 09:43 AM   #2809
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Then it's one of the bearers of One Ring, for that's the only thing of evil magics that could hide someone from sight.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:48 AM   #2810
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Except that none of them fit the whole riddle either, even though they do fit parts of it. (Well, Sam does, but you said no to that)
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:50 AM   #2811
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Then it's one of the bearers of One Ring, for that's the only thing of evil magics that could hide someone from sight.
It is!

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Except that none of them fit the whole riddle either, even though they do fit parts of it. (Well, Sam does, but you said no to that)
I promise you're wrong.

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