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Old 10-06-2003, 12:52 AM   #1
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Ever Wonder...

I've created this thread, so you could point out the sad realities of Middle Earth.

Ever wonder...

1) ...why the scruffy mortals get the hot elf-chicks?

2) ...why overproud leaders(I would have said king, but Denethor might torch me) experience a fiery death?

Hope you could add some more...

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Old 10-06-2003, 04:48 AM   #2
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I've always wondered...

- why every leader/ruler loses their wife at a young age?
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Old 10-06-2003, 12:26 PM   #3
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-Why the dwarves are always used as comic relief?

-Why wizards have horrible love lives?

-Why hobbits are all alcaholics and drug abusers?
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why the chain holding the One Ring wasn't invisible?
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Old 10-06-2003, 02:35 PM   #5
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I have wandered this many times:
Why dose Faramir look drunk when he says,
"Shall I shoot?"? [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

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Old 10-06-2003, 06:49 PM   #6
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I think Faramir got wasted over his brother's death, and -being a REALLY stupid drunk- thought it would be funny to have a Sméagol Stand-off.

-Why so many Bagginses became "old maids", except in guy form.
-Why Faramir looks like Robin Hood.
-Why Frodo has mini convulsions.
-Why anyone would want to date a half bald chick! (Oops! That's one of my current questions!)
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Old 10-06-2003, 08:31 PM   #7
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Ever wonder...

1) How after-Age management look so sloppy?
(Eonwe after the War of Wrath, the Numenoreans after the Last Alliance...)

2) Why no one tries to make a Silmarillion movie? (If there's one, tell me)

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Old 10-06-2003, 10:20 PM   #8
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I think a Silmarillion movie would be really hard considering how its a lot of stories bunched together.Its like doing a movie on a history book.

Ever wonder...

-what Sauron was thinking when he was still on Numenor while it was sinking [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

_if anyone even knows what you're speaking of ( hint:Numenor [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] )
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Old 10-07-2003, 12:13 AM   #9
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Sauron was probably ...annoyed that Elendil and company were making a getaway.

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-why the hobbits didn't wear boots just for the mountain-climbing part of the journey?
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Old 10-08-2003, 12:32 PM   #10
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Ever wondered...

_How Frodo's chain snapped on Caradhras, then magically fixe itself so he could continue wearing the Ring on it?

_Why Legolas' eyes change from blue to purple to blue to brown to blue...?

_How Gollum managed to get across the bridge of Kazad Dum (forgive me if that's spelt wrong)
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Old 10-08-2003, 01:57 PM   #11
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_How Gollum managed to get across the bridge of Kazad Dum (forgive me if that's spelt wrong)
I've wondered that one before!

How Arwen got the Evenstar pendant from around her neck to it give to Aragorn? I mean, you never even see her reach for it!
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Old 10-08-2003, 06:33 PM   #12
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Now I wonder about a few more things...

Ever wonder...

1)...that some Characters in TTT look like CIA agents?
a)Sam, face before they left Henneth Annun, look just like Marshal Flintman, from "Alias"
b)Legolas, during the Warg attack scene(before Hama and the other Horse-dude left the group), look just like Jackson Haisley, from "The Agency"

Uh...you do know what I'm talking about, do you?
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Old 10-09-2003, 08:50 PM   #13
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Ever wonder.....

..why Gwahir wasn't generous enough to give Frodo a lift to Mordor?

..where Gandalf's second staff came from?

..how Gandalf keeps his white clothes so clean even after treking through Fangorn?

..why the orcs didn't notice how much shorter Frodo and Sam were when they snuck into their ranks?

..where Saruman gets his nails done? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

..why Sauron didn't destroy Mt. Doom?

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Old 10-09-2003, 09:23 PM   #14
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..where Gandalf's second staff came from?
Maybe Saruman tossed it at him, when he saw he was escaping...

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..why the orcs didn't notice how much shorter Frodo and Sam were when they snuck into their ranks?
You've got a point there...

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..why Sauron didn't destroy Mt. Doom?
...or at least cover it up...say, that gives me an idea!

Ever wonder why bad guys are soooooo stupid?

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Ever wonder....

...why Aragorn's beard never seems to grow yet he never shaves?

...why Theoden the King had 200-300 able-bodied soldiers and the rest were old men & young boys, yet Eomer the banished nephew had 2000 mounted troops?

...why Legolas never has more than a dozen or so arrows in his quiver, yet never runs out?

...why the bow Legolas received from Galadriel is called a "bow of the Galadhrim" when it looks nothing like the bows of Haldir & company?

...how the chain of the 'One Ring' keeps appearing and disappearing, and also breaking and magically repairing itself?
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Old 10-10-2003, 10:21 AM   #16
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...why Legolas never has more than a dozen or so arrows in his quiver, yet never runs out?
As I recall, he is always gathering fallen arrows from finished battles and replenishing his supply. I suppose it would be boring to include the "Legolas retrieves arrows from the field" scenes (well, unless you're an Orli fan and like to watch him walking about, looking at the ground, stooping, picking up...ad etcetera...)
On the theme of facial hair, not only is it unusual for Aragorn to have the same level of unshavenness, but notice that Boromir's facial hair is always so neatly trimmed and shaped, as if he carries a portable kit with him...I always got the idea that Boromir was a little bit vain, with all that ostentatious stylish clothing, shield, decorated horn, etc. (maybe I just like to look at it... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] )

I always wonder how the hobbit manage to avoid nasty foot injuries on such rough ground. Didn't Sean Astin sustain a particularly bad one some time during filming? Just how tough ARE hobbit feet? And, speaking of Sam, you know he and Frodo walk 1600-odd miles with bare food supplies; yet it seems in the movie that Sam doesn't lose an ounce of weight! I'd think Sam would be lean and mean after such an effort!

And whoever brought up the point about the Ring not disappearing on its chain, that was an apt observation. Of course, if that were the case, the Ring would become impossible to find! Maybe it is like a Mood Ring and has to have the warmth of a finger or other living body part in order to do its work...

All I can think of right now! Bye y'all!

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Ever wonder why Sam admits he's Frodo's gardener in the Two Towers movie, when Faramir says,"His bodyguard?"

-why Legolas wails,"Ai! Ai!" like a little sissy girl?

-why Gandalf can't reinterpret the meaning of a sentence?(Speak friend and enter)
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Ever wonder what those overgrown hyenas are, and what have they done to the Wargs?

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Old 10-15-2003, 09:01 PM   #19
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Ever wonder who's older, Elros or Elrond?

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why Legolas wails,"Ai! Ai!" like a little sissy girl?
Funny, although you may need to be wary of all those rabid legolas fans.

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Ever wonder who's older, Elros or Elrond?
I think Elros is, as he inherited most of the family heirlooms, (ring of Barahir, Sword of Thingol, Axe of Tuor).
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Hey!!!! I'm a Legolas-fangirl!!!
But i'm not like totally crazy!
I just like the way he looks... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
But I think that all elves are sissy (no offence!!)
But you have to agree that he being an elf might be the reason fore the homosexual-like screaming, right??? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

annyways....
~You know youre obsessed with LotR when you wear a ''ring of power'' in a chain around your neck!

Thats it for now!
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I'm from Norway, so I'm not so good in english writing! Hope you foregive me! [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] )
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Welcome to the 'Downs, Miriel Undomiel! And your English is fine. Pretty good, actually!
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Ever wonder what those overgrown hyenas are, and what have they done to the Wargs?
I believe the "overgrown hyenas" you refer to were supposd to BE the Wargs or Wolves of Isengard, I can't quite remember which. PJ just made the Wargs look messed up.

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I'm not a fangirl, yet I don't think he's screaming like a sissy girl. Maybe he's just yelling a warning or something...

~ Why everyone in the movie's hair becomes messed up and the fixed again. I mean, Legolas' hair is scruffy in one scene and neat and comed in the next.

By the way, welcome Miriel! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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...Why the character's hair, bodies, & clothes will get grimy & messed up, but they'll have nice pearly clean teeth?
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i can HONESTLY say that i have NEVER wondered about those...but i CAN honestly say that i HAVE wondered...

-why elrond wasnt wearing sunglasses and a suit during the council meeting

-why they didnt just ride free willy down the river anduin (sp) instead of those elven boats? i mean, elijah DOES have his connections. . .
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Ever wonder...

~...why Elros and Elrond are called Peredhil, when in fact they are 1/16 Ainu, 9/16 Elf, and 3/8 Man?

~...how, in the movie FotR, the Hobbits went from Bucklebury Ferry to Bree in an instant?

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I yelled that out in the cinema in my poxyest English accent (sorry to all the poms no offence meant) "Its robbin hood and his merry men!"

EVER WONDER WHY ELROND JUST DIDN'T PUSH ISUILDOR (spelling?) INTO THE FIRES OF MOUNT DOOM IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN HE COULD AND SAVE US THE TROUBLE OF THE SECOND WAR!!??

Alter Ego Everdawn: why yes Everdawn the origional, i have, i tihnk Elrond must have been a little drunk at the time, or at least having a blonde moment, even though he is not a true blonde...
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Indeed, as have many others: "Destroy it.... Isildur!".
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Because murder is Sauron's way, and not the Western way.

I think a more likely question is, Why didn't he wrestle it from him? Probably because stealing is also Sauron's way. As Gandalf later told Frodo, wresting it by force from Isildur would have broken Isildur's mind and driven him to madness (like Gollum.)
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I know this sounds sad but anyway the needs of all of the peoples of middle earth could easily have justified the killing of one man however great he was, and i think elrond should have killed isildur when he didnt cast the rulling ring into the fire.

Elrond should have known that no man could withstand the lure of so much power
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Then how would Elrond have been different from Sauron in the long run? Sauron was guilty of inflicting his will on the free peoples of Middle-Earth, enslaving them and killing them. If Elrond had murdered Isildur, he would have been guilty of the same crime.

Nor was Elrond's view of the future like ours of the past. Sauron was defeated; Middle-Earth had peace for a long time after the Ring was lost.

This is a different question than "Why not assasinate Hitler", by the way. Isildur was not a mad megalomaniac dictator; he was a good man, valiant, just beginning to fall under the power of the Ring; I'm sure Elrond loved him as a fellow-soldier. I wouldn't be surprised if they had become friends; soldiers often do.

Would you have expected Sam to push Frodo in?

If Sam and Frodo had been exchanged for Legolas, Gimli, and Aragorn, and Aragorn had the Ring, would you expect Legolas and Gimli to push Aragorn in?
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Then how would Elrond have been different from Sauron in the long run? Sauron was guilty of inflicting his will on the free peoples of Middle-Earth, enslaving them and killing them. If Elrond had murdered Isildur, he would have been guilty of the same crime
I agree, for that very reason. I don't think Elrond should have pushed Isildur in for that very reason. Murder is murder.

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Nor was Elrond's view of the future like ours of the past. Sauron was defeated; Middle-Earth had peace for a long time after the Ring was lost.
And since Sauron was defeated, Middle-earth wasn't in any great danger. For Elrond to push Isildur in would have been murder, and it would have been wrong.
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In FotR (the movie), while in Bree, Merry sits down at the table. Pippin asks,"What`s that?" Then Merry replies, "This my friend, is a pint." Pippin: "It comes in pints? I`m getting one." Pippin then leaves the table, leaving Frodo, Merry, and Sam. But when Frodo is asking Butterbur about Strider in the corner, you can clearly see Pippin sitting at the table, but not Merry! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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...why only Shelob has remained of all the descendants of Ungoliant?

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