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Old 10-02-2023, 06:16 AM   #1
William Cloud Hicklin
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William Cloud Hicklin is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.William Cloud Hicklin is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.William Cloud Hicklin is battling Black Riders on Weathertop.
Interesting parallel

Can't claim it, it's Thomas Honneger's observation, but I like it: Turin's return to Dor-Lomin as a subversion of Odysseus' return to Ithaca.

There's more classical influence in Tolkien than many realize
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Old 10-02-2023, 04:59 PM   #2
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Morthoron is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Morthoron is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Morthoron is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Morthoron is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Morthoron is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.
Definitely a subversion. Other than murdering the usurper Brodda, everyone Turin loved was already long gone, and he didn't stay in Dor-Lomin to resume mastery of the land, but fled as a fugitive and murderer. No happy endings like good ol' Odysseus. Not even a venerable dog to greet him.
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Old 10-03-2023, 06:19 AM   #3
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Not even a venerable dog to greet him.
But an aged servant (the only one to recognize him)
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Old 10-03-2023, 08:14 AM   #4
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Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
You could add a kinswoman forced to marry an intruder, a marriage that the returning hero tries to disrupt. Except with very different outcomes.
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