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Maeglanthirion
01-04-2004, 12:18 AM
I have a question concerning the trolls. Now, in the hobbit, Biblo escaped from the trolls because the sun rose and turned them to stone. Now in the movie, there were all these trolls running around in broad daylight. Were they a different kind of troll? And what were the normal Mordor orcs doing in broad daylight at the Pelennor?
Iris Alantiel
01-04-2004, 10:40 AM
Heyyyyy, I never noticed that! Well, I mean, I noticed there were trolls and orcs running around, but it never occured to me that they shouldn't have been out in daylight. Hmm.<P>The only thing I can think of is that maybe because the days were growing darker, it wasn't bright enough for the trolls and orcs to be affected by it. I realize I'm probably stretching a little bit, or maybe a lot. Definitely open to other suggestions.
Gil-Galad
01-04-2004, 12:19 PM
remember teh uruk-hai? they coudl withstand sunlight, most orcs can also survive it, but it weakens them, for trolls... in the hobbit gandalf turned them into stone by doing something with light, but sauron made Olog-Hai, just like hte uruk-hai, but as a troll
mollecon
01-04-2004, 02:38 PM
I don't think Tolkien himself ever fully explained the differences between orcs, goblins, trolls... It's true the uruks ability to withstand sunlight is 'explained' by them being a cross between men & orcs - but there are discrepancies, to say the least.
metropolis_part_one
01-04-2004, 04:36 PM
The Trolls that were running about in the daylight were not ordinary Trolls, they were bred especially by Sauron and were called 'Olog-hai'. They were not afraid of daylight and could survive it because they were driven by the will of Sauron. When he perished, they became purposeless and simply wandered, and eventually all perished or were slain.
The Barrow-Wight
01-04-2004, 06:22 PM
There are two articles on our <A HREF="http://www.barrowdowns.com/Articles.asp" TARGET=_blank>ARTICLES Page</A> that have the word 'Olog-hai' in their title. Check them out!
The Only Real Estel
01-05-2004, 09:57 AM
Also, I think the only orcs that had a lot of trouble running about in the sun where the orcs from Moria, & they had trouble because they'd been in the dark for so long. Also, there where at least 3 different kinds of trolls, with the stone trolls seeming to be the smartest (since they could carry on conversations), or at least compared to the 'movie trolls'.
The Wraith
01-05-2004, 10:01 AM
Sauron bred the Olog-Hai.They could withstand sunlight.
Gil-Galad
01-05-2004, 05:29 PM
your thinking of mountain trolls, they can hold conversation, but can't withstand light<P>The wraith, i know that, i just said it a few posts up, well welcoem to the downs!!!<p>[ 6:30 PM January 05, 2004: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ]
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