"Minor works" Quotes

[HerenIstarion]

I'm strating new thread where JRRT's "minor works" (i.e. Leaf by Niggle, Farmer Giles of Ham, Smith of Wotton... etc) (not directly connected with ME) will be quoted.
Let's get rolling:

Who said and to whom:

"And the wind has blown half the tiles on my roof, and water is pouring into the bedroom. I think I ought to get the doctor. And the builders, too, only they take so long to come. I was wondering if you had any wood and canvas you could spare, just to patch me up and see me through for a day or two."

A story must be told or there'll be no story, yet it is the untold stories that are most moving

edit:

Here's the list of works currently used in this thread:

Farmer Giles of Ham
The Adventures of Tom Bombadil
Leaf by Niggle
Smith of Wootton Major
On Fairy Stories
Mythopoeia
The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
Father Christmas Letters
The Monsters and the Critics
Roverandom
The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun
A Secret Vice
Mr. Bliss

enjoy

[ March 17, 2003: Message edited by: HerenIstarion ]

[KayQy]

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Re: &quot;minor works&quot; quotes

Good for you. Little things need attention, too. This is from &quot;Leaf by Niggle,&quot; which I just read over Christmas, and it's Niggle's neighbor talking to Niggle. (I don't remember the neighbor's name, but, shh, don't tell anyone.) <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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name

parish ?

lindil

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[HerenIstarion]

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great

It was a good job, KayQy :), but final blow was lindil's. Carry on man

A story must be told or there'll be no story, yet it is the untold stories that are most moving

[as eowyn]

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Rats!

I just read Farmer Giles of Ham and Smith of Wootten major. I was hoping to get into this thread, but it seems to be stopped <img src=frown.gif ALT=":(">

H-I Could you do one in lindil's absence? Please?

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[HerenIstarion]

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Re: Rats!

I will since lindil is silent

True; but they looked like interruptions to him, of course, poor little man

who and to whom?

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[KayQy]

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Re: Rats!

Oh, this is one of the Voices talking about Niggle in &quot;Leaf by Niggle,&quot; when he was being judged or whatever! I don't remember which Voice.

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[HerenIstarion]

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Re: Rats!

Excellent, your turn, though it was Second Voice ;)

Proceed

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[KayQy]

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Re: Rats!

Ok, here we go:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Never mind the Tail! Cut his head off and put an end to him!<hr></blockquote>

They cannot conquer forever!</p>

[HerenIstarion]

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dragons, dragons!

Middle Kingdom rustics, tormented by Chrysophylax the Dragon to king's knights, who were afraid to offend King's Cook

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bloody.jpg" align=absmiddle> and more dragons!

Yep, go right ahead!

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[HerenIstarion]

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Re: and more dragons!

Nasty unhealthy parts, evidently,' ...`I shan't go any further this way tonight


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[HerenIstarion]

Well, since interest was shown lately of aforesaid "minor works", plunge in, folks :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

HI, your last quote was from 'Farmer Giles of Ham' - speaker is the giant, after being shot by Giles' blunderbuss.

[HerenIstarion]

aye, correct :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

OK, next quote: I grant you your wish. Farewell! Now go to sleep!
Who says it to whom?

[HerenIstarion]

that's Alf (King of Faery) to Noakes, when the latter wished to be thin again :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Right you are, HI - though it is 'Nokes'. Your turn!

[HerenIstarion]

ai, ai shame on me :)

next serve:

That would be a help; and it need not be very fine. It
would be for business and not for showing off' at court

[Estelyn Telcontar]

At first I thought it would be Farmer Giles, but it was the miller, speaking to him.

[HerenIstarion]

exactly. BTW, I somehow figured all the millers with Tolkien are nasty. And I think I know why. I'll post a thread in the books upon the subject. Meanwhile, you serve now :)

edit: Nasty Millers (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=230)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

OK, here's a new one: I don't remember what I said, but anyway it was not nearly enough.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Looks like there are only two of us playing on this thread - anyone else who's read the "minor works" and wants to join us??

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I am pleased to answer the call for more players.

The last quotation was Niggle to Parish, who was looking at a flower I seem to remember.

Now if you're willing to take a ride,
I'll carry you home to tea

[ October 01, 2002: Message edited by: Squatter of Amon Rudh ]

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That was the old troll, speaking to Perry-the-Winkle in the 'Adventures of Tom Bombadil'. And yes, Parish was looking at a flower - a small, shapely yellow one. Could it have been elanor?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Correct. Go to the top of the class

[Estelyn Telcontar]

The honour would be greater if the class were bigger! smilies/wink.gif Try your hand at this one:
Anyway I've my own business to attend to.

[Legolas]

Giles to the miller.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Correct, Legalos - your turn!! And welcome to the thread!

[Legolas]

"Don't do me a harm!"

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Nokes says it to the King of Faery in 'Smith of Wootton Major'.

[Legolas]

Yep.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

"I had matters of my own to mind, and had wasted time enough on your errands."

[HerenIstarion]

that's Giles to the King at their famous meeting at the Ham Bridge. It goes on even more boldly with "Give us your crown" motto :D

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes indeed, HI - your turn!

[HerenIstarion]

The point is, what can I do for you?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

HI, I looked through the four "minor works" I have ( Giles, T. Bombadil, Niggle and Smith) several times without finding that quote. Can you give a clue?

[HerenIstarion]

it's in a story written in twenties, but published only recently. I hope this helps :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That must be 'Roverandom' then, which I don't have at home, but will try to get from the library - am I right?

[HerenIstarion]

Well, you are. That is wizard Psamathos to Rover. I count your guess as a correct answer and invite you to proceed :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Well, thank you - I will continue with this one: A beggar can't be chooser, or else I'd bid you go.

[HerenIstarion]

thats Tom Bombadil a-boating :)

Well, well. Muddy-feet! From one that's late for meeting
away back by the Mithe that's a surly greeting!
You old farmer fat that cannot walk for wheezing,
cart-drawn like a sack, ought to be more pleasing.
Penny-wise tub-on-legs! A beggar can't be chooser,
or else I'd bid you go, and you would be the loser.
Come, Maggot! Help me up! A tankard now you owe me.
Even in cockshut light an old friend should know me

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Right you are, HI - I thought I had obscured the verse structure well enough to make you work longer on that one! smilies/wink.gif You're next - again!

[HerenIstarion]

But I'm not a builder

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Niggle?

[HerenIstarion]

yes, proceed :)

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

No news is bad news

[Estelyn Telcontar]

It's the blacksmith in 'Farmer Giles'.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's the fellow.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

This one's really easy, but I like it so much that I'm using it anyway: No doubt some who deserved to be asked were overlooked, and some who did not were invited by mistake; for that is the way of things, however careful those who arrange such matters may try to be. Doesn't that sound a bit like Gandalf's 'Many that live deserve death' speech?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That description of the Feast of Good Children from Smith of Wootton Major certainly looks very Gandalf-esque. Perhaps he's the narrator. smilies/wink.gif

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You're right, Squatter, and it just now occurs to me that it wasn't a proper quote! Oh well, your turn.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Not to worry; it's a nice parallel all the same. Okey dokey:

I cannot see clearly. You must put it in for me.

[ October 13, 2002: Message edited by: Squatter of Amon Rudh ]

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Oh, nice one - such a touching moment! It's Smith, speaking to Alf when he relinquishes the star.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I thought you might like it. Esty escapes the Gorge of Eternal Peril to post another quotation.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

All right, try this one: You're better outside than in!

[HerenIstarion]

Perry-the-Winkle to Lonely Troll:

O why do you weep, you great big lump?
You're better outside than in!
He gave the Troll a friendly thump,
and laughed to see him grin.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's it, HI - you're next!

[HerenIstarion]

He will get home a long time before you do, I expect

[Legolas]

Chrysophylax to Farmer Giles

"He" = Farmer Giles' dog

[HerenIstarion]

exactly. you serve

[Legolas]

Yet trees are not 'trees', until so named and seen

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Philomythus to Misomythus in Mythopoeia unless I'm much mistaken.

[Legolas]

You're not mistaken.

Go on.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Dirige, Domine, in conspectu tuo viam meam.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Tídwald says it in the Homecoming of Beorhtnoth.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Does Tídwald strike you as being that educated?

You're close though.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Well, it's in the section with his name over it, but I assume it's the monks of Ely who actually do the chanting.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Your wild guesswork has met with success. smilies/wink.gif

Actually the clue is in the following words from the voice in the dark:
Sadly they sing, the monks of Ely isle!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

It is your task, of course, to put the best interpretation on the facts.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

"Sometimes they will bear it"

That's the First Voice to the Second Voice on the eponymous hero in Leaf by Niggle

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Can't I keep you looking for longer than a few minutes, Squatter? You're right, of course! Go ahead with a new one.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I will not walk with your progressive apes

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Philomythus to Misomythus in Mythopoeia

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Spot on. Have a banana.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

*Esty munches the banana and swallows before speaking... What's your business here?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Ho there! beggarman tramping in the Marish!
What's your business here? Hat all stuck with arrows!

That would be Farmer Maggot, failing to recognise Tom in Bombadil Goes Boating

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You are so right - carry on!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

It is later than late! Why do we wait?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

The quote is found in 'The Sea-Bell', "The Adventures of Tom Bombadil". As close as I can figure it out, it's the boat speaking, either that or the sea shell which is telling the story.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

You got the title of the work and the title of the poem, but the speaker is neither the boat nor the shell.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

OK, if the narrator is the one speaking that sentence, then it would be Frodo, as the poem is also called Frodos Dreme.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I would have accepted "The narrator". Good show.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

This quote may be easily identifiable, but I think it's so funny that I can't resist! What, digestive and genital organs of plants?

[HerenIstarion]

Tompkins to Atkins, discussing late Niggle and his appreciation of flowers

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Basically correct, HI, though Tompkins was quoting himself speaking to Niggle (about leaves as well) in that conversation with Atkins. Pray proceed!

[HerenIstarion]

thanks

It means much the same; but call it that if you like.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That would be Nokes the Cook speaking to Prentice in Smith of Wootton Major.

[HerenIstarion]

Squatter rulez! Carry on the banner smilies/biggrin.gif

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Thank-you, O Chanting One. smilies/wink.gif

My back's broken, and the breath has left me.

Is that a rock-and-roll quotation or what?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

No, it's Sam, after 'trimming the grass-border under the window'. smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif Not canonical, you say? Well then, it's Torhthelm to Tídwald in 'The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth'.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Estelyn takes up the baton again. The crowd yells "Go, Esty; go Esty!" smilies/wink.gif

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I know this one is easy to identify, but since it's one of my very favorites, here it is: Man, sub-creator, the refracted light through whom is splintered from a single White
to many hues, and endlessly combined in living shapes that move from mind to mind.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's Philomythus again. Sixth stanza of Mythopoeia

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Correct, of course, Sir Squatter, and isn't it beautiful! Please proceed.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

It most certainly is, Your Highness.

Yet I hope that what I have later to say about the other questions will give some glimpses of my own imperfect vision of it.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That is Tolkien speaking as the narrator of the essay 'On Fairy Stories'.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I say. Jolly good show, what?

You may proceed.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

OK, let's see if this one will keep you looking a bit longer! What do you want?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

A drowsy cook gave a surly look,
and 'What do you want?' said he.
'I want fire and gold and songs of old
and red wine flowing free!'

It's the inn's cook to the Man in the Moon from The Man in the Moon Came Down Too Soon in The Adventures of Tom Bombadil

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Absolutely right, as so often - please continue!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Okey dokey:
And your eyes fancied barrow-wights and bogies.

[HerenIstarion]

It sounds like bombadil, but I'm not able to find exact quotation. Would you be so kind to give us a clue? :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

My first guess would be Tolkien in the essay 'On Fairy-Stories', though I haven't the time to search right now.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Don't tell me I've got both of you stumped. It's neither Bombadil nor Tolkien, I'm sorry to say, but think along the lines of battles and you'll get it.

[HerenIstarion]

You obviously have :) The only mention of bogies I could recall comes from here:

Hoy! Here's Woodman Tom with his billу-beard on!'
laughed all the little folk of Hays-end and Breredon.
'Ware, Tom' We'll shoot you dead with our bows and arrows'
We don't let Forest-folk nor bogies from the Barrows
cross over Brandywine by cockle-boat nor ferry'.
'Fie, little fatbellies! Don't ye make so merry!


Nothing else I can think of as yet

BTW, what battles?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

BTW, what battles?

Ones that are over.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Ah, that clue did it - it was Tídwald to Torhthelm in 'The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son' - tricky reference there!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's the answer I was looking for. And to think I only put it in there as a tribute to Our Beloved Founder...

Your turn, Estelyn.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

All is vane. I assure you, the homophone is spelled correctly! smilies/wink.gif

[Eärendil]

A complete shot in the dark: Farmer Giles in Farmer Giles from Ham?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Nope, Eärendil, sorry!

[HerenIstarion]

Nas-s-sty, tricky S-s-s-squatter ;)

Estelyn, that's Weathercock in Bilbo's "Winter"

'My case is hard' the throstle cried,
And 'All is vane' the cock replied,
And so they set their wail up.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Very good, HI! Go ahead with the next one.

[HerenIstarion]

That will learn him

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

The villagers of Ham, on seeing Giles and his blunderbuss turn back the giant.

[HerenIstarion]

Definitely, Sir. Proceed

[ November 04, 2002: Message edited by: HerenIstarion ]

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Very well, Sir

Nameless nightshades - naught else can I see

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Again, it's Tídwald to Torhthelm in 'The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son'. That poem does have a lot of parts appropriate for the Barrow-Downs, doesn't it?! Seems to be your current favorite, Squatter - getting in the mood for Halloween?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

You're right about the source of that quotation, Esty. Prepare for Halloween? I suppose I do make sure that I have plenty of pellets for my air gun...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's a nice Halloween quote: Think less, and talk less of ghosts.

[ October 31, 2002: Message edited by: Estelyn Telcontar ]

[HerenIstarion]

Tidwald to Torthelm, whom he thought to be frightened by an owl hoot

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's it, HI - your turn!

[HerenIstarion]

Thanks

He was a very good neighbour, and let me have excellent potatoes very cheap, which saved me a lot of time

+ about whom + circumstances

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Niggle is speaking of Parish to the Two Voices in 'purgatory' after both men have died.

[HerenIstarion]

aiwa, meaning , "yes" :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's an optimistic quote for the day: I expect it will turn out all right.

[HerenIstarion]

that's old Master Cook, smith's grandfather, to Alf when he (grandfather) was leaving

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Quite right, HI - your turn!

[HerenIstarion]

I confess I'm going to cheat :rolleyes: (just a little), but who said this:

He who would enter into the Kingdom of Faerie should have the heart of a little child

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That quote was a bit tricky, HI, though I was sure I would find it in Tolkien's essay 'On Fairy Stories'. There he quotes Andrew Lang, who made the above statement.

[HerenIstarion]

Yes, Esty, that's him :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's a new quote for you: You'll never find it out, the way that we have brought you!

[HerenIstarion]

Badger-brock to Tom Bombadil :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes indeed, HI - go ahead with a new one!

[HerenIstarion]

well, off we go!

Now then! One at a time

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Time to get this neglected thread going again! The answer is: Farmer Giles of Ham, trying to make sense of everyone talking all at once!

[HerenIstarion]

corrr-r-r-rrect :D

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's a quote that tickles my fancy: His head was not screwed on tight enough. Who says it, and of whom?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Anyone want to take a shot at this quote? It's quite easy!

[HerenIstarion]

well, that's First Voice about Niggle in ":eaf by Niggle"

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's right, HI - you're next!

[HerenIstarion]

You will hear from us later

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That was the King, Augustus Bonifacius Ambrosius Aurelianus Antoninus Pius et Magnificus, dux rex, tyrannus, et Basileus Mediterranearum Partium, speaking to Farmer Giles of Ham (or, if you prefer, Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo).

[HerenIstarion]

Mais oui, c'etait lui vraiment, Bonifacius rex etc etc :) Madame, votre tour, je vous en prie...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Um, Madame is me, right? And it is my turn - but that's all I can guess. What little French I had the opportunity of learning has been mostly forgotten, unfortunately! Well, here's a new quote: It'll make them laugh.

[HerenIstarion]

Nokes to Alf at the putting of silver star into the Great Cake

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes, HI, quite right - your turn!

[HerenIstarion]

Now that you are here you shall dance with me

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Sounds to me like the Queen of Faerie talking to Smith. Or am I off with the fairies myself?

[Legolas]

* HerenIstarion announces Squatter's answer in Minor Works quotes to be correct

He can't remember his forum password, so I pasted that from the chat for him.

Go on, Squatter!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Thanks Legalos.

You stumbling dolt, Look where you're going!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's Tídwald to Torhthelm in 'The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son'.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's the one. Your turn, Esty.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I might go by other ways.

[HerenIstarion]

Tom Bombadil a-rowing

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes indeed, HI - please go ahead!

[HerenIstarion]

Oh well, there's no place like home, they say

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's the Giant, explaining to his relations why he didn't stay in the Middle Kingdom.

[HerenIstarion]

That's him. Go ahead smilies/smile.gif

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Righto. Here's one that could prove topical:
I'll give your otter-fell to Barrow-wights.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's Tom Bombadil; he continues: They'll taw you! Then smother you in gold-rings!
Hmmmmmm, that brings us back to the old question: What was Tom B's role in the matter of the Rings of Power???

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Tom it most certainly is, and indeed it does. You may continue.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's a challenge, I hope! For children are innocent and love justice; while most of us are wicked and naturally prefer mercy.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

G.K. Chesterton. Tolkien quotes him in the section of On Fairy-Stories entitled Children. That was rather a tricky one, as I was naturally inclined to think that it was Tolkien himself who had said it.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I might have known that I couldn't baffle you for long; you're right, of course, Squatter. Your turn!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Thank you. Let's see how you fare with this one:
To mortal fields say farewell

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That is spoken by Elven boatsmen to Fíriel in 'The Last Ship'.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Indeed it is. Your turn.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

The shadow was the truth.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Ned Smithson, from Smith of Wootton Major

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Quite right, Spectre of Decay! Continue, please.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Thank-you, Your Highness. Here's one:
I bow not yet before the Iron Crown

[HerenIstarion]

Sounds like Hurin, but I assume it can't be him, since we are playing minor works...hm...
a hint, maybe?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

...not cast my own small golden sceptre down.

Wonderful line! That's Philomythus to Misomythus in Mythopoeia.

[HerenIstarion]

blimey... how could I forgot...

*H-I is ashamed smilies/wink.gif

Squatter?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Esty's right. For shame, Heren.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I never knew you were so clever.

[HerenIstarion]

Parish to Niggle in Niggle's Parish in conversation with Shepherd

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Absolutely and completely right, HI - your turn!

[HerenIstarion]

:)

...I feel so fat, for I have fed on cramsome bread...

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's Perry the Winkle again. This time to the townsfolk.

[HerenIstarion]

Yes Sir, you may proceed :)

[HerenIstarion]

Squatter?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Sorry. Call of being somewhere remote for a while. Here's another to keep you going:

Green is the land, the leaves are long, and the birds are singing.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Ah, I finally found it! It's sung by the Elven rowers in 'The Last Ship'.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's the one. I am agog with anticipation of your next quotation. smilies/wink.gif

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You need not grudge him his name.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Atkins, reproving the unpleasant Councillor Tompkins at the end of Leaf by Niggle.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes, Squatter, that's it - please proceed!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Try this one on for size then:

I shall enchant my heart, and I shall place it upon the top of the flower of the cedar. Now the cedar shall be cut down and my heart will fall to the ground, and thou shalt come to seek for it...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

...even though thou pass seven years in seeking it; but when thou hast found it, put it into a vase of cold water, and in very truth I shall live.
That's beautiful, Squatter! It's from the essay 'On Fairy-Stories', quoting The Tale of the Two Brothers; speaker is the younger brother to the elder.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

It is quite a nice piece. Next time I promise one from a named speaker. smilies/wink.gif

Esty's turn

[Estelyn Telcontar]

The woven staves have yet worth in them for woeful hearts.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

This quote has been up almost a week - any takers??

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

...But there's work to do ere the funeral begins.

That's Tídwald to Torhthelm again from The homecoming of Beorhtnoth, Beorhthelm's Son

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Righto, Squatter - your turn!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Thank'ee, Marm.

Here's a nice easy one:
I told you so.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

'Twas the blacksmith in Farmer Giles of Ham. Is that the only occurrence, or does this quote show up in more than one place?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

You're right again. I think he does say it more than once, as it happens.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I have cares of my own.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I have cares of my own
in my heart, Totta, and my head's weary.

That's Tídwald again. What a cheery fellow he is, to be sure.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

*drrrrrrummmmmrrrrrrrooooooooollllllllllll*
Correct! Go ahead!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Very well, then. Who spake these heavy staves of doom?

It's only an owl

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Somehow this feels like a tennis match, Squatter - isn't there anyone out there who'd like to make it doubles??

Well, the answer is, it's our friend Tídwald to Torhthelm again, from The homecoming of Beorhtnoth, Beorhthelm's Son.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Correct. I couldn't resist its Pythonesque overtones.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I never invited you.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

'Go home, go home!' the old Troll said.
'I never invited you.
Only on Thursdays I bake my bread,
and only for a few.'

The Troll in question being, of course, Perry the Winkle's friend in The Adventures of Tom Bombadil.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Right you are, Sir Squatter - pray proceed!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Thanks. Have a go at this one:

You'll have to go

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I finally found it - it's the Inspector to Niggle in 'Leaf by Niggle'.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's the fellow, miserable, officious little tick that he is.

Your turn.

Incidentally, why isn't anyone else playing this game? These stories contain some of the best lines and scenes of all Tolkien's books. Join us.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

HerenIstarion, who started this thread and has unfortunately been missing from it lately, and Squatter and I, who have been the only players recently, cordially invite one and all to join us in the fascinating search for quotes in Tolkien's minor works!

These are:

Farmer Giles of Ham
The Adventures of Tom Bombadil
Leaf by Niggle
Smith of Wootton Major
On Fairy Stories
Mythopoeia
The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son

(contained in various collections, for example in 'Tree and Leaf' and 'Tales from the Perilous Realm')

Here's a new quote to start with: Who would have thought of seeing you here?

[HerenIstarion]

ai, ai, the conversation which the given quote is derived from always makes me laugh :D

I won't answer though, and for 2 reasons

1 Let others join
2 I don't know when I'll be online next time

so I'll go away quitely grinning and chuckling under my moustache...

(well, I have no moustache to be honest, but it sounds funnier - chuckling under one's moustache...)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Heren, how nice that you dropped in here to say 'hi', at least - we've missed you! Now, who's going to try their hand at that quote - it's not hard at all.

[Legolas]

Chrysophylax Dives, after Farmer Giles came face to face with this dragon and 'scrambled' on his horse.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes indeed, Legolas, and welcome! smilies/smile.gif

[Legolas]

Not difficult, by my reckoning:

What at the mead man vows, when morning comes let him with deeds answer, or his drink vomit and a sot be shown.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's Torhthelm, quoting lays which say so. ('The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son')

[Legolas]

Yes.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I cannot see clearly.

[HerenIstarion]

The Smith of Wotton Major returning silver star into the black box

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Quite right, HI, and nice to have you back with us again! Your turn...

[HerenIstarion]

Thanks :)

next to go:

A little closer inspection will
be required

[Estelyn Telcontar]

'Tis the parson to Farmer Giles of Ham, trying to read the inscription on the sword Caudimordax.

[HerenIstarion]

yes :) pray proceed

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I might go by other ways.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Tom laughed to himself: 'Maybe then I'll go there.
I might go by other ways, but today I'll row there.'

Tom Bombadil a-boating again, Estelyn.

It's nice to see some other faces in this quiz again. I do hope you all stick around awhile for a little minor musing.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Right you are, Squatter - your turn!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Righto:

This is my time for sleep!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I've been looking for this quote, so far without success. I tried 'Tom Bombadil' and the 'Homecoming', thinking that it's from poetry, but haven't found it yet. Anyone want to help me look?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Keep looking. It's from a very minor work.

Good luck

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Is it in Roverandom? I don't have that one...

[HerenIstarion]

it is indeed. The speaker being Psamathos Psamathides talking to Rover

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Right you are, Heren old boy. You may proceed.

[HerenIstarion]

thanks

I'll have a go than:

What's your business here? Hat all stuck with arrows

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's Farmer Maggot to Tom Bombadil in the 'Adventures' of the same - and nice to have you posting with us again, HI, even though you beat me to the Roverandom quote yesterday! smilies/wink.gif

[HerenIstarion]

yes indeed (both cases ;))

Pray proceed

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I see exactly what you are getting at.

[HerenIstarion]

Imaginary Niggle to Niggle proper about his painting

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Very good, HI - that one was a bit tricky to assign to a speaker! Your turn!

[HerenIstarion]

heh, you call that tricky?! smilies/wink.gif Try to solve the following than:

Nay, we shall see! Let thanks abide till thanks be earned


(mad laughter: mwahahahahahaha!!!!!) smilies/biggrin.gif

[HerenIstarion]

methinks I managed to stump all-knowing participants of this thread. Great me smilies/smile.gif

Need a clue?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes, please...

[HerenIstarion]

Well, than:

By Estelyn

These are:

Farmer Giles of Ham
The Adventures of Tom Bombadil
Leaf by Niggle
Smith of Wootton Major
On Fairy Stories
Mythopoeia
The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son

extend the list with a piece or two

I hope it helps

[Estelyn Telcontar]

OK, we've already added Roverandom to the list - is that enough, or do we need more?

[HerenIstarion]

more smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Annunfuiniel]

Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
Letters from Father Christmas(or
Father Christmas Letters, are they the same?)
The Monsters and the Critics

Those could be added to the list. But I haven't got a clue where that quote is from. smilies/smile.gif

[HerenIstarion]

The speaker quoted may be referred to as a woman (at least the person is referred to as "she" by JRRT), speaking unto the (clue! clue! - childless) mortal man.

hope it helps

[ March 17, 2003: Message edited by: HerenIstarion ]

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Nice clue, HI, but not so very helpful when I don't know in which minor work to start searching - or if I even have the work from which it's taken. Has it been mentioned in the above list? If not, how about a complete (new) list of the works which we are using now? Thanks!