View Full Version : Favorite movie character not in the books.
Boromir88
12-11-2004, 09:39 PM
From the movies Peter Jackson added a few characters of his own, not in the books. Now I realize there is a limitted number to choose from, unless you want to go with some one like Gondor Soldier #42 (you know the one that got slammed up against a big stone). Anyway, who is your favorite character from the movies, that wasn't in the books?
For me, I took a fondness for Faramir's Lieutenant, Madril. In ROTK, when Gothmog was standing over him, it appeared to me Madril was scared, and was going to start begging for his life, but he took the spear like a man. Plus, I just like the way the guy talks..."FARAMIR!"
Morgul Queen
12-11-2004, 09:50 PM
Figwit! *nodnodnod*
Elven-Maiden
12-11-2004, 09:54 PM
Would I be linched if I said Arwen? :p
I'll go with Figwit too! :D
Boromir88
12-11-2004, 09:57 PM
I'm not familiar with figwit, if one of you two explain which one he is, that would be great :D .
Morgul Queen
12-11-2004, 10:03 PM
Figwit is an extra in Fellowship during the Council. He's onscreen for all of 3 seconds and a has an extremely large fan following. He got given a speaking role in RotK because of this. *grins* (http://www.figwitlives.net/)
Eomer of the Rohirrim
12-30-2004, 03:22 PM
I had been wondering about that, but just never got round to asking.... :p
Don't you mean Mablung, Boro? I'm sure that was his name. I would agree with you, and I would also add 'Gamling' to the list, a pretty sensible inclusion by PJ I think.
Boromir88
12-30-2004, 03:29 PM
Mablung is the guy that goes to Faramir while he's trying to decide to take the ring to Osgiliath or not. He's the one that goes "Osgiliath is under attack, they call for reinforcements."
Madril is the guy that was like "If you let them go your life will be forfeit." And he dies in ROTK, when Gothmog stands over him and jabs him with a spear.
Encaitare
12-30-2004, 03:37 PM
Gamling was a book character, just not exactly the same guy. In the book he was an old man at Helm's Deep -- I do like his movie character, though. He and Hama are way cool. :cool:
Boromir88
12-30-2004, 03:40 PM
I think that's what Eomer met to say, although I'm not an expert at what goes through his mind :p ;) .
I agree with Gamling though. I loved Hama's character, especially in the books (but he was good in the movies I just wish he hadn't of died in the warg attack). I thought he should have died at Helm's Deep :( .
Meela
12-30-2004, 04:18 PM
Madril is my favorite character in this category, although there was another Gondorian that caught my eye. Unfortunately, he was one of those #4384 characters. He was the first to pass dead Aragorn in Arwen's futurism scene. Tall, dark-haired, definite hint of nobility in those broad shoulders.
And Figwit deserves a mention, for his grand achievements in the world of fandom.
Nimrodel_9
12-30-2004, 06:22 PM
I loves Figwit!!! (I`ve never heard him mentioned in this site before!) :D
There was also this Rohan dude in TTT watching the elves walk passed at Helm`s Deep. He had a silly smile on his face and caught my eye. :D
Encaitare
12-30-2004, 08:59 PM
Who's the guy who says, "Then it is as the Lord Denethor predicted! Long has he forseen this doom!" He says this one line so vehemently, and then kinda shrinks into the background once more. Heh. Well, it amuses me, anyway.
Boromir88
12-30-2004, 09:09 PM
I heard that guy was Imrahil, but I sure hope not. I can't stand him, and I don't think that guy fits Imrahil well.
"It's as the lord Denethor predicted, long has he forseen this doom." blarg.
Boromir88
12-30-2004, 09:16 PM
I just checked IMDB.com. They have him listed as Irolas.
I wonder why PJ does that, that's twice now where he's switched letters on named. Mardil=Madril, Iorlas=Irolas, is it because of copying reasons or something? Or did PJ just switch them just because he could.
Meela
12-31-2004, 06:55 AM
Oh, Irolas! He was my other favourite. He was supposed to be Beregond, surely.
Boromir88
12-31-2004, 07:44 AM
So, they change Beregond's character, the only person with the guts to stand up to Denethor to a brown noser? Hmmm, it's something they would do, lol :p .
Eomer of the Rohirrim
12-31-2004, 01:31 PM
I had drawn up a shortlist of who would be the first person to point out to me that Gamling was in the books. I did not choose correctly.... :p
Nevertheless, he is a completely different character, with a different age, and a different role. He counts as an invention with a name from the books.
Now, I haven't been on any official sites, but can you guarantee that those were two different characters, one called Mablung and one called Madril? If true, I did not notice.
DarkRose
12-31-2004, 02:52 PM
Hmm,
I'd have to say that one of my favorite non-book characters appeared in RotK. It's during the attack on Minas Tirith, when the orcs are catapaulting rocks at the city, and the city is catapaulting chunks of itself right back.
Well, remember the part when Gothmog nearly misses being crushed? Well I love the troll-thing that is next to him, the one that whimpers and looks inquisitively at Gothmog. He makes a quirky noise like "Mrrouhh?" If it is possible for a troll to be cute, I'd say he that's what he is. :P
Wow, that was a long explanation for... something insignificant, heh.
Boromir88
12-31-2004, 07:56 PM
Yes, Eomer, two different people. Mablung has long dark hair, and a dark goatee, he breaks in when Faramir just finds out Frodo has the ring. "Osgiliath calls for reinforcements."
Madril looks similar, with long hair, but it's grayer. He's the one that was like "if you let him go your life will be forfeit." Then Gothmog jabs him with a spear in ROTK, right before Faramir retreats from Osgiliath.
Boromir88
12-31-2004, 08:06 PM
Here's some pictures for you....
http://thm-c.search.vip.scd.yahoo.com/image/948160613
Madril
http://thm-a.search.vip.scd.yahoo.com/image/9537967
Mablung
Eomer of the Rohirrim
01-01-2005, 09:13 AM
My apologies Boro. I can easily let you know where my confusion was coming from here.
I did not even know that 'Mablung' existed! He went by without my noticing. :rolleyes:
So, if I can clarify my original post, my picks for best invented characters are Gamling and Madril. :D
Dûrbelethwen
01-01-2005, 12:42 PM
I think my favourite charcter of this catagory is Eldarion. Even though his part was not in the books I thought is was very beautiful and touching.
Nimrodel_9
01-01-2005, 05:01 PM
Wait, which one was Eldarion? :confused:
Boromir88
01-01-2005, 05:09 PM
Arwen's little boy she had in the premonition. The one Aragorn was spinning around and had really creepy eyes. He reminded me of something from Stephen King.
My apologies Boro. I can easily let you know where my confusion was coming from here.
Tis ok Eomer, all it shows is I have enough time on my hands to do that sort of thing, sorta sad really. :D
Nukapei
01-01-2005, 09:32 PM
Fave character in the movie but not the book is a tough one. Now, switch that around and I could give you a list a mile long! :rolleyes: For the original question though: Figwit is pretty cool. I felt bad for him in RotK when Arwen turns around and goes back, and he's just standing there like: " . . . . um . . ." lol And I didn't know that's why he got a speaking part! Hmm, makes sense for PJ and them to check the fansites, but you just don't think about stuff like that . . .
Figwit's my fave (and, Elven-Maiden, I like Arwen's new roles, too!), but I feel compelled to mention someone no one has said before. So: in the very beginning of FotR, during the battle with the Last Alliance, after Sauron is "destroyed" and it produces a shockwave of sorts, everybody's getting whipped around. There's this one Elf, dunno his name, but the poor thing's hair is going everywhere. He looks like he's in a hurricane or something! And I just think that the way the lighting and angle of the camera, etc., is, that's one of the coolest single freeze-frame from any movie I've ever seen! I look for him now, every time I watch FotR. If anyone knows his name, please tell me! And I'm going to be quiet now, because I'm tired and not writing well, and I've already written a novel. lol
Encaitare
01-01-2005, 09:43 PM
I know who you're talking about! I don't know his name, but I always liked that shot.
Neurion
01-01-2005, 10:32 PM
I think my favourite charcter of this catagory is Eldarion. Even though his part was not in the books I thought is was very beautiful and touching.He's in the Appendices. ;) :D
Roccotari Eldandil
01-03-2005, 11:31 PM
Nukapei--I think there was some speculation awhile ago that the Elf whose hair is blowing all over the place is Thranduil (aka the Elven King, aka Legolas's dad) or maybe even Oropher (Thranduil's dad, if I recall my geneologies--sp?--correctly). Makes sense to me...I believe it fits in with the book. Although I'm sure PJ & co. didn't care THAT much. They just like blonde Elves.
Nukapei
01-04-2005, 09:02 AM
Oh, really? Our mystery blond elf being Thranduil or Oropher makes sense. Although I agree, PJ is waaaay too fond of historically-rare blond elves!
Lobelia
01-05-2005, 05:54 AM
I think my favourite charcter of this catagory is Eldarion. Even though his part was not in the books I thought is was very beautiful and touching.
Um, sorry - there was, in fact, a mention of Eldarion the grown man in the Appendices. Aragorn says to Arwen, who's trying to talk him out of dropping dead, that their son is old enough to rule. I guess like the difference between movie-Gamling and book-Gamling.
Encaitare
01-05-2005, 11:35 AM
I rather like the orc with the huge scar on his face and the skull on his head. Now that's the way to get the girls in a swoon. :p
Fordim Hedgethistle
01-05-2005, 12:31 PM
Me, I've always been partial to Gondor Soldier #42 -- the way he gets smucked by that big hunk of rock. . .balletic!
Bêthberry
01-05-2005, 12:33 PM
That guy who took the long dive off Minas Tirith. ;) And those elves at Helm's Deep. Them especially.
Seriously now, though, those doe-eyed refugee children in Rohan, in TTT just before Helm's Deep. Their inclusion was touching, but just so mythic. ;)
Nilpaurion Felagund
01-05-2005, 09:38 PM
I'd go for Garulf, the dead guy in Éomer's éored who was reincarnated as a horse.
And Éothain, the sharp-mouthed lieutenant (speculation) of Éomer cursed by Saruman to be young. I think.
Lalaith
01-06-2005, 04:31 AM
Ah, Bethberry, you beat me to it, I was going to mention the children of the Westfold. And lets not forget poor little Haleth with his rubbishy sword....
I will also add my vote to Madril (and thanks for providing his name). He looked and acted like such a decent man, and his death was dreadful.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
01-06-2005, 07:45 AM
I like the old Hobbit who is constantly sweeping the path outside his home. I know he's not really an invention per se, but still...
Boromir88
01-06-2005, 12:18 PM
I know who you are talking about Eomer. I think that represents a hobbit in the book, but not entirely sure, but I second that. Just stands in his doorway and sweeps outside, haha.
The Saucepan Man
01-06-2005, 12:20 PM
I believe that he is named as Odo Proudfoot in the cast list. He is the one who says "Proudfeet" at Bilbo's party.
Nukapei
01-06-2005, 12:28 PM
Oh, yes, the doe-eyed Rohirrim children are adorable! And they also double as the (still) doe-eyed Hobbit children Bilbo is telling his story at the party in FotR. Did anyone else notice that?
The Saucepan Man
01-06-2005, 12:39 PM
... and the doe-eyed children in Minas Tirith ...
... and the doe-eyed offspring of Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh ...
mark12_30
01-06-2005, 12:40 PM
The elven-smith who reforges Narsil.
IMO he leaves Figwit in the ashes.
Nukapei
01-06-2005, 01:14 PM
I just thought of another! The completely random Rohirrim dude that walks by with a greyhound in RotK when they're all standing around in Meduseld trying to decide what to do. I've always thought that part hilarious, because they're all serious and "we've won the battle, now we have to decide how to win the war," and this guy just walks by with a dog. Wierd sense of humor, I guess. :rolleyes:
The Only Real Estel
01-06-2005, 07:40 PM
I like the old Hobbit who is constantly sweeping the path outside his home. I know he's not really an invention per se, but still...
Ah, that's a good one. And while we're on the topic of hobbits who probably aren't exactly invented, I'll cast one of my votes for the hobbit that interrupts a promising moment to grab a cupcake & stuff it in his mouth in FotR :D.
I'd also have to say Lurtz, if only because he's the only guy I know that can get both his right arm & his head chopped off without losing a drop of blood ;).
Morgul Queen
01-16-2005, 07:45 PM
There was also this Rohan dude in TTT watching the elves walk passed at Helm`s Deep. He had a silly smile on his face and caught my eye.
I agree, but my favourite Rohirrim are 1) When the Uruk-hai and Orcs carrying Merry and Pippin are attacked there's this one guy who rides past and does this rerally spiffy thing with heis bow, and 2) after the Warg Attack they do a litle panning-type shot and this guy just rises out of the hill and stabs something.
Oh, and 3) one of the Orcs at Helm's Deep waving the flag around like he's never had one before, he just looks so funny!
TomBrady12
02-03-2005, 09:06 PM
I would have loved to see Imrahil in the RoTK EE and maybe even "Old Forlong the fat." One of my favorite chapters in the book was "Minas Tirith" the part at the end where Pippin and Bergil watch the men from the outlying areas march into Minas Tirith, and it would have been cool if that had made the cut.
Question, was that Ted Sandyman in the Green Dragon in the Fellowship EE?
TB12-GO PATS
Mithalwen
02-04-2005, 01:29 PM
The ranger of Gondor played by Royd Tolkien ..... well he was the only one to send me Christmas greetings..... :D
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39609000/jpg/_39609309_roydfilm_pa_story203.jpg
Snowdog
02-15-2005, 08:35 AM
The young sad-eyed dark-haired beauty watching I assume her beloved ride off to his death with Faramir.
And I like Madril as I used his outfit, and one of an exhausted Ithilien Ranger in the background at Henneth Annûn as a model.
I liked Lurtz too. :D
Faramir
02-17-2005, 09:13 AM
I like the guy who takes Hama's place in tt...when theoden says "...draw your swords" he looks like he just got kicked in the face.
I also like the hobbit in Fotr ee, he picks his ear and he cant get the "stuff" off his finger..and then they come back to another scene of him and hes still trying to get it off.
Thinlómien
02-17-2005, 09:17 AM
The old hobbit man with an angry, younger wife. That nice round-headed, gray-haired fat little fellow appears in both FotR and RotK.
And then the dark-haired elf-guy who is companying Arwen, when she changes her mind and rides back to Rivendell.
And Peter Jackson's children are best, wherever they are... :) They're so cute.
Maeggaladiel
02-17-2005, 10:49 AM
HUZZAH FOR RANDOM HOBBIT CHILDREN! Who couldn't love those random nameless hobbit lads and lasses chasing after Gandalf, listening to Bilbo's stories and generally being random children? Not I!
Faramir
02-17-2005, 12:41 PM
jacksons kids are in minas tirith too,there watching faramir leave on his "suicide charge"
Milady Revenwyn
02-18-2005, 03:56 PM
I'm going with who I know as "The third orc on the left" in one of the Isengard scenes. You know, the one who chokes to death?
Just love that scene. :P
Thinlómien
03-02-2005, 07:14 AM
You should ask my friends... We watched all the EE's after each other (it took about 11 hours) and I noticed a cute baby in Helm's deep. Every time I see my friends they remind me of the baby. Ridiculous! The baby appeared just for few seconds and I said he was cute - and how big noise about him. (My new babyboyfriend - you see ;) ) Anyways he's my favorite.
Faramir
03-02-2005, 08:21 PM
Ive think noticed this baby too is the mother holding him or her?
Sharpis Corbis
04-04-2005, 08:06 PM
Wait. That elf with the hair blowing around at the start of FotR, can't be Legolas father. Because wasn't that the same elf that looked up at Frodo during TTT, when Frodo falls in the pool at the Dead Marshes? I always thought it might be Gil-
Galad.
Cibbwin
04-09-2005, 04:27 AM
I like Morwen, the woman who sent her children to Edoras. She was so pretty!
Snowdog
04-22-2005, 12:54 PM
Lets see....
-Of the Rohirrim, the guy who gets ale kicked all over him when Merry & Pip are drunk dancing on the table.
-Of the Gondorians, the sad dark-haired woman who watched as (I assume) her husband rode to his death with Faramir.
-Of the orcs... in Mordor it was the one in Minas Morgul that was outside and was suprised when the orc corpse falls in front of him.
-Of the orcs... in Isengard it has to be the one who "birthed" Lurtz and was crushed to death.
-Of the Hobbits it was the one laughing and hanging on the keg.
And of course that carrot munching man in Bree who didn't have enough sense to get in out of a dounpour. :smokin:
Memory of Trees
05-05-2005, 11:44 AM
My fav character from PJ's imagination would have to be the adorable little archer orc in the Mines of Moria. His name is Wallace, and I have adopted him. *grins*
Imrahil
05-06-2005, 02:58 PM
I like the orc in TTT who wanted to eat Merry and Pippen..."What about them? They're fresh..."
Bungo Baggins
06-03-2005, 09:24 AM
I agree with the posters who mentioned the old hobbit sweeping the path outside his door. Although he is likely a composite of characters, he is priceless and makes me smile everytime I watch it.
The Saucepan Man
06-03-2005, 09:34 AM
I agree with the posters who mentioned the old hobbit sweeping the path outside his door. Although he is likely a composite of characters ...He's in the cast list as Odo Proudfoot, and indeed 'tis him who delivers the immortal line "Proudfeet!". :D
mormegil
06-03-2005, 10:18 AM
Some of my favorites are orcs...There is the one who at the siege at Minas Tirith shouts "Catapults" and the other who at Osgiliath makes that call (analogous to the raptor call in Jurrasic Park) that is unintelligible but it's what I consider to be the orc mating call.
I guess I just like those voices on the two orcs.
drigel
06-03-2005, 02:57 PM
The ranger of Gondor played by Royd Tolkien ..... well he was the only one to send me Christmas greetings..... :D
thats funny - you reminded me about the time I sent Ian McKellen an email way early - like 1998 - via his webpage. I sent it not expecting a reply - but i was very complimentary and kissy kissy with a lot of questions pertaining to Gandalf. I was sent a reply a few days later:
"David,
Greetings from Bag End"
Not sure if it was a canned response (anyone else?), but I thought it was very cool at the time.
Orominuialwen
06-06-2005, 08:25 PM
I rather like that random hobbit carrying the pumpkin in the scene in the Green Dragon at the end of RotK. He looks a bit like Andy Serkis.
Eledhewin Ilanora
06-07-2005, 01:03 AM
My choice would be the young boy aka newly appointed helms deep soldier in TTT who was holding a sword when Aragorn approached him. After a few swing, Arogorn ensure him that it is a good sword.
In few minutes that boy reflects everything the people in helms deep facing..hope, anxiety, fear, bravery, doubtfulness etc etc.
That boy played his part very well..
mormegil
06-07-2005, 08:33 AM
I believe his name is Haleth though I'm not 100% certain.
Great point though.
Kitanna
06-12-2005, 08:47 PM
I love those two kids from Rohan who have to say good-bye to their mother. It makes me so sad, but then they meet again at Helm's Deep and that makes me happy.
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