Tol-in-Gaurhoth VII (The Saga goes ever on and on)

[Firefoot]

Welcome to Werewolf VII! For clarification and convenience, here are the rules:

Rules:

The players represent a village, and each member of the village has a role, which is kept secret. Most players are Ordinary Villagers, but three are Werewolves, one is a Seer, one a Hunter, one a Ranger, one a Cursed Villager, and two are Shiriffs. The goal of the villagers is to eliminate all of the werewolves. Likewise, the goal of the werewolves is to eliminate the villagers, which they can do if the number of non-werewolves is equal or less than the number of werewolves.

Gameplay

The game consists of two different phases: Night and Day. The game begins with a short Night post before the first Day.

Night

Night lasts 24 hours, or less if all night-time activity is completed before then.

During Night, only Werewolves may PM one another. The Werewolves must PM the Moderator about who they have chosen to kill.
The Seer must PM the Moderator concerning their Dream.
The Hunter must PM the Moderator concerning who they want to kill if they die.
The Ranger must PM the Moderator concerning who they want to protect.

Day

Day lasts 24 hours, or less if all day-time activity is completed before then.

During the daytime the villagers all wake up and find that one of their own has been killed by the werewolves. At this point at least one player is a werewolf and so someone is gonna get lynched.

During this phase all players, including werewolves who have assumed villager form, must publicly discuss their suspicions. Eventually it will reach a point where villagers start to cast votes for who they feel is a werewolf and must be lynched. Votes are non-retractable and are cast by bolding a name with a ++ sign before it, all in capitals, e.g. ++FIREFOOT. Votes should be on a separate line. DO NOT edit your posts to include a vote. At the end of the Day the player with the most votes is lynched (killed) and their secret role is revealed. If votes are tied, all nominees are killed. Double (or more) lynchings are FROWNED UPON and STRONGLY DISCOURAGED. In other words, if you do, you will bring the wrath of the Moddess Goddess down upon you.

When the lynching is finished all the villagers go back to their homes to sleep and the next Night begins.

Winning

The villagers win if they kill all of the werewolves. The werewolves win if they kill enough villagers so that their numbers are equal. At this point the werewolves can openly rise up and slaughter the rest of the villagers.

Roles (in slightly more detail):

Ordinary Villagers: All they have to do is deduce the werewolves by Day.

Werewolves: Choose one person to kill per Night by PMing one another and discussing their ideas, then PM the Moderator with this decision. Werewolves may not PM each other during Day. During Day, they should try to avoid detection as werewolves.

Seer: Chooses one person to Dream about each Night. The role of this person is revealed only to the Seer. During Day, the Seer should use this information to influence the debate as inconspicuously as possible.

Cursed Villager: The Cursed Villager doesn’t know that they are cursed. If the Cursed Villager is killed by Werewolves, the moderator will announce that nobody was killed. The Cursed Villager then becomes a Werewolf and is introduced to his/her new team mates. If the Cursed Villager is lynched, whether before or after transformation, their role will not be revealed.

The Werewolf Hunter: If the Hunter is killed by a Werewolf or hanged by Villagers, he/she names one other player before being killed. That player is then automatically killed. The Hunter should PM the Moderator each Night to say who they want to kill if they die during night. If the Hunter is lynched during Day, there might be a small delay in the beginning of the next Night as they will need to contact the Moderator

The Ranger: Each night, the Ranger names another player. If that player is the Werewolf victim, the victim survives and there is no death that night. The Ranger may not protect the same person twice in a row.

The Shirriffs: These are two otherwise Ordinary Villagers who know each other and thus know that they are both innocent. They may PM one another by Day to discuss ideas, but not by Night. They may not reveal their roles until one of them is dead. Upon the demise of one Shirriff, a final letter will be sent to the mod to be forwarded to the other Shirriff. There are two Shirriffs.

The Cobbler: This player is on the werewolves team, but is not a werewolf! The cobbler doesn’t know who the werewolves are, they don’t know who s/he is. The game does not end in a situation where #(werewolves+ cobbler) >= #villagers. The cobbler looks like a villager to the seer. The cobbler actually doesn’t mind being lynched in many cases, to protect a werewolf from dying.

Discrepancies

Compromising privacy: You can say you're a villager/seer/werewolf, etc. all you want, but under no circumstances should you post anything that would give your claim absolute credibility. You are not allowed to post any PMs or other private conversation between yourself and the game moderator. Infractions of this rule are grounds for immediately disqualification from that game and all future games.

Outside interference: Once you are killed in a werewolf game you should no longer post in the thread, or the Werewolf I thread, or communicate with players that are still alive in the game. You're dead. Dead people tell no tales. Breaching of this rule will result in disqualification from all future games.

Private Messages: Players may not PM one another about the game; all discussion must be open. The exceptions are the Werewolves, who may only PM one another during Night, and Shirriffs, who may only PM one another by DAY. Please remember to keep space for PMs from other players or the Moderator, if relevant.

Role Play: Players should not refer to the game as a game. I will have to insist that you do not mention past villagers whatsoever as this rule was completely ignored last game. It is, of course, okay to theorize concerning werewolf tactics. This hardly requires the words “When I was a Werewolf in Game II…” to be attached to the front of the theory. Breaking this rule will result in a warning, breaking it a second time will result in automatic lynching.

Please remember to stay invisible. You can do this by going to User CP, change options and clicking the Invisible Mode button.

Players:

Dancing Spawn - Landlady
Durelin - Dead-header of flowers (has selective memory)
Elf-warrior - Butcher
Encai - Wandering gypsy
Eomer - Generous dancer
Feanor - Pathological liar
Kath - Undertaker
Kitanna - Town crier
Lhuna - Lhunatic
LMP - Local stuffy old astrologer
Mormegil - Official executioner
Nilp - Suspicious wolf breeder
Oddwen - Tourist
Oromin - Musician
Saurreg - Shepherd
TGWBS - Blacksmith
TORE - Weedgrower
Wilwa - Town Troubadour

There are:

3 wolves
1 seer
1 ranger
1 hunter
1 cobbler
1 cursed villager
2 shirriffs
8 ordinary villagers

~*~*~*~

Here follows the account of a village. Depending on the perspective, the village may or may not be considered a pleasant one, but the account is certainly not pleasant. The name of the village (according to some sources) is Loveland, ironically enough, as the villagers would find to their unpleasant surprise that the village was not so loving as it may have seemed. The new unpleasant phase of the village’s history began to unfold as a chill breeze blew through the village under the pale light of the rising moon as (most of) the villagers went to bed with a (reasoned) chill in their bones and an (unreasoned) chill in their hearts…

It is now Night 1. The wolves may communicate with each other to strategize; the Seer needs to send me a choice of a dream. Night will end in 24 hours.

[Firefoot]

It was a red dawn that the villagers awoke to in the morning. Most of them took little note of this – “how pretty,” thought one, and, “what a nice sunny day,” thought another – though perhaps they should have. No, most of them were simply relieved that their premonitions of the previous night had seemingly come to naught. After all, what bad could ever happen in a village with a name like Loveland, anyway?

And so, the villagers began to go about their business for the day. It was not until mid-morning that someone realized that everything was not all right. “Has anyone seen Firefoot yet this morning?”

No one had, and Firefoot was not the type to simply turn up missing. Fear reawakened in the hearts of the villagers as they hurried down the street to Firefoot’s house.

“There’s smoke coming from the chimney,” noted one villager in relief. “Maybe she’s just sick or something…”

“Let’s knock,” stated another, more skeptical villager. The chap at the front of the troop rapped on the door; this soon turned into a pounding after getting no answer. “Something’s wrong. We’ll have to break down the door,” he commented, trying the door knob without luck. The pair at the back exchanged looks. Breaking down the door was extreme… and Firefoot would be none too happy if her door was destroyed. One of them ventured, “Maybe if someone could slip through a window and unlock the door…? Firefoot always leaves her windows open.” This was true, and the smallest villager was hoisted in through the window.

Shortly they were all standing inside the door. “Something smells in here,” commented someone, "like something's burning." The scent grew stronger as they came to the back of the house. Gagging could be heard from at least one villager. Finally, they entered the last room and a horrible sight greeted them.

Firefoot had been drowned; her body lay face up in a tub full of water. Her facial features were twisted in pain, for the tub had been pushed up against the stove, and her feet, which had been stuck into the stove, were even now burning – though most of the flesh was gone by now. Something had been burning all right - Firefoot's feet.

“Who could do such a thing?” cried one of the villagers. One of the more stolid souls stepped closer to the body and noticed that Firefoot’s stiffened hand held a sheet of paper. He gently pried it loose and saw that it had at one point held a great deal more writing than could now be read. What was still legible, however, made him blanch.

“Well? What does it say?” demanded a villager.

“Most of the ink has been blurred from the water…” he muttered. “But part of it is clear enough.” He held up the damp parchment for all to see. Though blurry, there could be no doubt: 3 werewolves.

“We must kill them or die trying!” swore one villager. The ominous words seemed to echo in the suddenly still room as they all turned to stare at the unfortunate villager. “Er… maybe we should step outside, where the air is fresher and we can think clearer?” he suggested weakly. Nevertheless, the proposition was followed, though all the while the villagers were shooting uneasy, suspicious looks at their companions. 3 wolves…

~*~*~*~

Living:

Dancing Spawn
Durelin
Elf-warrior
Encai
Eomer
Feanor
Kath
Kitanna
Lhuna
LMP
Mormegil
Nilpaurion
Oddwen
Oromin
Saurreg
TGWBS
TORE
Wilwarin

Dead:

Firefoot – drowned and burned by werewolves on Night 1

Score:

Werewolves – 3
Villagers - 15

It is now Day 1. Day will end in 24 hours. Wolves, stop PM’ing. Shirriffs may start.

Remember: You should be on invisible mode. I can still see at least one of you.

[mormegil]

Looks as though I'll be busy these next few days, what with being the town executioner and all. I say we get lynching and do it soon, I've got lunch to eat.

[The Elf-warrior]

Poor Firefoot, may she rest in peace. I don't know who did this. The only people who do are the wolves and maybe the Seer knows one. I don't think we should rush to judgment mormegil.

[wilwarin538]

I agree, we should take our time with this decision.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

It's good to hear that you haven't lost your appetite, mormegil. What are you having - some chicken legs, perhaps? :p

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

What a mess - send for the cleaner!

I always liked that lass. Feisty she was, and powerful intelligent. I remember something she once told me: "Celebration and box socialing may be amusing, but it don't make you see clearer." Now, I always took this as ever so slightly derogatory toward myself but regardless, I won't mock the dead. Only I would point out that I'm seeing clearer than she is right now.

We've wolves that need hunting and no mistake. Now, they say death follows me around like trouble follows Nilpaurion, and for that I am truly sorry. 'Twasn't my choice, 'twasn't my doing. Some folks are just born unlucky. Leastways that's what my grandaddy always told me.

I would like to immediately propose that you do not lynch me. :p

[wilwarin538]

Me neither. Considering its my first game I should obviously be given a fair chance. :D

I find that Morm is a little too eager for some blood shed don't you think?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Not really. I mean, we do have werewolves among us. I'm kinda eager for some bloodshed too; after all, I'd like to live and be free from these monsters. The sooner we kill them the better.

Besides, he's an executioner; he's a bloodthirsty rogue and we love him for it. ;)

[Kitanna]

Morm is always eager for blood, he is the town executioner after all.

[The Only Real Estel]

Bah, what a mess. And it's a terrible bother what with havin' a tourist like that Oddwen here to see all this! I can assure you, miss, that things like this aren't normal occurrences. Drowned and burned but not a bit chewed upon?
These wolves are a bit strange, to say the least.

Now I'm sorry to be so blunt, no actually I'm not, but lets not here any of this "the best thing to do is cross-examine & analyze each person." It's more than likely that every good intentioned villager was asleep, so we have no witnesses. You all can say what you want, but it seems to me that this first lynching will be mostly a shootin' in the dark. Aside from a rare first day mistake, which I should doubt we'll find, the only thing we can really use are voting records & discernable patterns, & we have neither of those right now. So lets not start wasting breath on rhetoric about examinazation & analyzating. We can keep a sharp eye out for suspicious behavior, but we've not much more than that to go on.

I do agree, though, that we not rush to any conclusions. As for me I'm going to go have a bit of a smoke to clear my head.

[Durelin]

My word... *peeks into basket on arm* I do hope Firefoot was fond of Morning Glories... And I figure the dead won't mind dead flowers. I'll have to scatter some upon her grave, the poor dear. Though it seems I had best save some... Looks like we're in for it, dearies. By lynching or murdering...though a fine line it is between the two, yes it is...

Them werewolves are in for it if they try and get a piece of me! *shakes fist, unfortunately attached to the arm upon which the basket dangles, scattering dead flower blossoms upon the ground* Oh dear...I forgot about my flowers... *spots some carnations and runs over to them, inspecting them*

[the guy who be short]

It seems the werewolves have a strong sense of irony. Or maybe they're pyromaniacs. Or maybe they like feet.

Those are the three leads I can think of at the moment. Perhaps one werewolf falls into each of these categories?

[Orominuialwen]

Oh my! It's so sad about poor Firefoot. She was a nice lass and will be missed by all. It's terrible that anybody would do such a thing to her. We must expend all our efforts in killing these wolves!

[Durelin]

It seems the werewolves have a strong sense of irony. Or maybe they're pyromaniacs. Or maybe they like feet.

Well I can tell you one thing: Werewolves don't like flowers! *shakes basket menacingly*

[Kath]

Poor Firefoot. Dead, and in such a nasty way. I'll never forget that smell as long as I live. But good villagers we must find a way to beat these werewolves before it's us that ends up in a cooking pot! Any ideas floating around?

[the guy who be short]

Any ideas floating around?Yes, actually. I suggest we kill that lying fiend, Feanor. She's only gonna confuse us afterwards anyway!

Or we could take out that shifty Eomer.

:p

[Durelin]

Unfortunately, there's no way for everyone to communicate who they are without the wolves knowing too... We do outnumber the wolves by quite a bit (otherwise we'd all be dead already), but...

[Kath]

TGWBS I think it's a little early to be throwing death plans around, especially since one of your choices hasn't even posted yet! You never know, Fea might be more of a help than a hindrance.

But I agree with Durelin. No gifted villager can really hint at their role until at least one wolf is dead. Then the advantage is taken away from the werewolves a little at least.

[The Only Real Estel]

On the contrary, Kath. Especially if we're talking about the Seer. The Seer's job is to hint, not necessarily at what he/she is but at what he/she has found. If the Seer is so scared to hint that he/she doesn't hint enough than it's very possible that the Seer will do us no good at all. As to the other roles it really wouldn't do much good to hint about anyway, other than 'proving' that you're innocent because you're a gifted villager.

Although I do agree that once at least one wolf is dead the risks are less.

[the guy who be short]

It is best for Gifteds to remain hidden for a while yet. That way, we Norm's (Ord's?) can hide them by numbers. The wolves can kill us, the other innocents kill us, and the damage to Loveland will not be too great.

I think we should kill Kath for doubting my wisdom. :p If Fea were here, whe sould probably be asking us to lynch her for some reason or other...

[Durelin]

No gifted villager can really hint at their role until at least one wolf is dead. Then the advantage is taken away from the werewolves a little at least.

Though going up and lynching someone who's of value against the wolves would be just as bad as letting them get killed by the wolves...oh what a quagmire we're in! I will never be able to say which is less detrimental. I really cannot make any decisions, unless they have to do with killing known werewolves...

[Kath]

Mm sorry Estel I was actually thinking of the Shirriffs but have just realised that they can only reveal themselves after one has died so it was a moot point anyway.

[The Only Real Estel]

No problemo. My weed is calling me again, I will be back later to catch myself up on what has been said.

[The Elf-warrior]

Morm is always eager for blood, he is the town executioner after all.
Point taken. After all, I'm in a bloody profession too ;). And TORE, I think that in the maze of accusations someone is going to accuse a wolf, or maybe more than one. But a lot of innocents will be accused too, most likely.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

TGWBS I think it's a little early to be throwing death plans around, especially since one of your choices hasn't even posted yet! You never know, Fea might be more of a help than a hindrance.
It's never too early to "throw death plans". ;) If we just bemoan our fate and the horrible cleaning bill that Firefoot's relatives will get, it leads us nowhere. It's good to see how people react when being under suspicion.

It's getting late here. I don't know if I can come back before I go to bed but if not, see you tomorrow.

[The Elf-warrior]

I think you are right, Dancing Spawn but I don't know if suggesting lynching specific villagers now is very wise. They could be gifted villagers. But then they might be a wolf.

[Durelin]

Death planning...I think I'll stick to dead heading.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'll thank you not to insinuate that if I were here, I'd be saying you should kill me. It meant that I could not do what I promised Keeper I'd do ("Keep, please let me use your computer. All I'm going to say is "I'm a wolf, you should lynch me.").

Here are some theories to work with:

Fea's a wolf, you should lynch her. This is the most bunked of the theories, but it has high likelihood of catching on. If I'm a wolf, you're not going to know. I play with bluffs, I play with truth, making you think I'm bluffing. I play games with your heads. You're dead lucky I'm innocent. Take that at face value and I can help you.

Fea's the Hunter, you should steer clear until she knows who to suspect. Yet another bunk theory, but hey, why not think it over. If I'm the Hunter, you'll want to hint towards me who you think should die, right? That way I don't get stuck accidentally killing our Seer or something. :rolleyes:

Fea's the Seer. If I was the Seer, you'd kill me day one and be beyond in trouble. But I'm not, so no biggie. If I was the Seer, this is what I'd do: tell you I was a wolf. The wolves would assume that no Seer would be stupid enough to get in harm's way and would let me be to mess with the village. The village would think "Well, Crazy Fea's up to her goofs again" and ignore me. After a few nights worth of dreams, I'd declare myself and all of my dreams.

Fea's a Shirriff: Again, untrue. If I was a Shirriff, you wouldn't find out. Since our Moddess Goddess has nixed revealing Shirriffs, I'd be so busy PMing ideas back and forth, your heads would spin.

Fea's the Ranger: *sigh* No. I wouldn't mind the job, but it's not mine. If I was the Ranger, here's what I'd be doing: picking at random the first two nights, since they're sketchy when it comes to wolf kills. After that, I would stick with whoever seems the most outgoing. To be honest, I think I would guard Eomer once or twice. Everyone deserves a chance to wreak havoc, yes?

Fea's the Wannabe Wolf: *snicker* I wish. I may adopt the role just for the fun of it, but probably not. After all, I would like to see my side win.

Since I've not got the time (and since it's day one and nobody knows what's up from down except wolves) to post anything more substantial, I'll just leave you with random theories about what you should do with me. I'd like to live, since I think I'd be more help than hindrance this game (thank you Kath, and even more because I won't be around Wednesday or Thursday ;)).

Oh, here's a good theory: Kath said I might be a help. That must mean we're Shirriffs together.

My last words: I'll be back either later tonight or tomorrow morning. Try not to kill anyone innocent before then. At that time, I'll have more of an idea on who to latch on to.

[The Elf-warrior]

Oops! I said originally posted by Kath in post 25. It was actually Kitanna.:o I added a disclaimer at the bottom of that post. I hope that was the right thing to do Miss Moderater. And no, I'm not a wolf or a cobbler.

[Durelin]

*throws a brown, wrinkly carnation at Fea*

I'm starting to agree with TGWBS... :p

[mormegil]

As is well known I do enjoy killing but I found a legal way to do it. Hopefully we get the guilties but I must admit I'll have fun in the process. I say we lynch TGWBS The reason is rather simple and completely fool proof. I had my wife pick a number between 1 and 18 (skipping 11, me) and she choose 16. TGWBS is number 16 therefore I vote we kill him and let his body answer our questions for us.

I know what you're going to say but at least this is a shot in the dark without wolvish influence.

[littlemanpoet]

OOC: All birth dates are our Dates of Becoming Barrowdowns Members.

Permit me to speak, oh gentle souls all. I shall do what I can to help with this latest calamity. No, I shall call it a disaster, for I am convinced that it arises from some asterior, that is, heavenly phenomena.

Preliminary indications are based upon that which we know by today's date. 'Tis the first day of the Sun's residing in the House of the Lion. Not a one of the souls that make up this village of Love were born under the Sign of the Lion, so it may be, on a preliminary reading, that there is no one of great courage to lead us in our quest to rid ourselves of the moonish wolves.

There is one other preliminary indication, and that is that one of our number was born under the Sign of the Fish. The significance of this is that as we speak, the Moon, which is waning Gibbous by the way, is in the House of the Fish. So I would say, purely in a preliminary way, that the one villager who is a Fish-born, may be one of our primary suspects. That is Lhuna. Notice the appropriateness of her name.

Nevertheless, there are three werewolves, not one, so I shall now go study the star and planet charts and determine what the heavens may reveal to us about the identity of the miscreants among us. I shall not be able to say more, most likely, until perhaps thirteen hours from now. I bid you good day.

Edit: Oh! One last thing. I would greatly appreciate it if all of you would be so kind as to indicate your current age (in the village). Thank you.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I am familiar with such a strategy Morm but you cannot possibly expect us to assume that choice to be without wolvish influence, because we don't know your secrets. Sorry, but the task is tricky like that.

Anyway, I'm off to dance (seriously) and then sleep. I'll be back in the discussion when I wake up. And please remember, don't point fingers without thinking very carefully.

Speak to you all later.

[Durelin]

*stares at lmp, shaking her head*

Edit: Oh! One last thing. I would greatly appreciate it if all of you would be so kind as to indicate your current age (in the village). Thank you.

Well, I guess it can't hurt none to say I'm as old as the hills... *consults the hills as to her age* 69, sir, to be exact.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet
Edit: Oh! One last thing. I would greatly appreciate it if all of you would be so kind as to indicate your current age (in the village). Thank you.

Um...ok then. I'm 15.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

As is well known I do enjoy killing but I found a legal way to do it. Hopefully we get the guilties but I must admit I'll have fun in the process. I say we lynch TGWBS The reason is rather simple and completely fool proof. I had my wife pick a number between 1 and 18 (skipping 11, me) and she choose 16. TGWBS is number 16 therefore I vote we kill him and let his body answer our questions for us.

I know what you're going to say but at least this is a shot in the dark without wolvish influence.Without a wolvish influence? You know, after that statement I'm pretty certain that mormegil's wife is the cobbler! :eek:

Btw, Fea, you left two options out. You might be a regular villager or the cursed one. At this point they are the one and same role, though.



Zzzz...

[The Elf-warrior]

I don't hold with astrology so I'm not telling you how old I am, littlemanpoet. Sorry. I'm going to butcher some animals now. Seriously, expect me back tonight EDT.

[mormegil]

The only good reason that anybody has to kill Fea right now is if they don't like their head spinning from her endless rambling.

My little dancing spider, my wife has never cobbled in her life. Now what is meant by my statement is that we are pretty much blind today as it is. So our guess is somewhat random anyway, we might as well make it totally random. I say that because wolvish influence does exist, but usually it's too subtle to pick up on.

[littlemanpoet]

I don't hold with astrology so I'm not telling you how old I am, littlemanpoet.

Neither do I. I'm just having fun. Humor me.

Or else I may have to conclude that your resistance against the revelations of the heavens is tantamount to guilt... (we are watching you...)

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

OOC: All birth dates are our Dates of Becoming Barrowdowns Members. So, am I two years old then or what? Anyway, feel free to predict my gruesome doom from the stars if you want to. My "birthday" is 15th June.My little dancing spider, my wife has never cobbled in her life. Now what is meant by my statement is that we are pretty much blind today as it is.I know. :) As blind as we were wearing sunglasses at night... like this :cool:

[The Only Real Estel]

Posted by Elf-Warrior:
And no, I'm not a wolf or a cobbler.

The Elf-Warrior was first to mention the cobbler & others have since, but I had originally forgotten about the role. Does anyone have any idea what to expect or look for from the cobbler? Or is it basically just looking for wolfish traits - voting for known innocents, defending suspicious ones, etc.?

[Durelin]

Interesting observation, TORE.

Those who have not posted yet (just for people to know):

Encai
Lhuna
Nilp
Oddwen
Saurreg

I'm pretty sure that's correct...unless I've forgotten someone (which I'm wont to do...)

And thanks for getting that song stuck in my head, dancing spawn. :p

[the guy who be short]

Everybody should vote for the person below them in alphabetical order! This means everybody has one vote; in effect, the village is commiting mass suicide.

On the one hand, we get all the wolves, but on the other, we kill ourselves. Hmm. Firefoot's death hasn't yet made me spiteful enough for a group suicide.

Now then, we know the wolves are tasty in kebabs... what does this actually tell us? Nothing.

What else? Ah yes, I think we should be watching... everybody. Yes. Everybody, watch everybody!

In particular, I don't trust LMP and his moon-lore, nor Fea for making my head spin. Lhunatics are also quite dodgy people. And that new tourist, where's she from? Better watch Enca. Oh, and the butcher, very dodgy profession. And dead-heading? Sounds morbid to me! And who could trust an elf-warrior? Nassty, backstabbing fiends...

[wilwarin538]

Everybody should vote for the person below them in alphabetical order! This means everybody has one vote; in effect, the village is commiting mass suicide.

That could work. ;)

Now then, we know the wolves are tasty in kebabs... what does this actually tell us? Nothing.

What else? Ah yes, I think we should be watching... everybody. Yes. Everybody, watch everybody!


Guy, your confusing me. :confused:

[Kath]

Just to move away from plans to lynch people for a moment, I would like to request that someone clear up the general confusion surrounding the role of the cobbler. I read the explanation in Firefoot's original post and I'm still not clear on what they actually do. Morm I think I remember liked the role, does he know what it entails?

[wilwarin538]

the cobbler confuses me to. It sounds like they're on the werewolf team but they aren't a werewolf, and they dont know who the werewolves are. The seer thinks its a normal villager. What's the point? :confused:

[mormegil]

His job sucks so bad, he wants to die. The cobbler is on the werewolves team, but is not a werewolf! He doesnt know who the werewolves are, they dont know who he is. The game does not end in a situation where #(werewolves+ cobbler) >= #villagers. The cobbler looks like a villager to the seer. The cobbler is very interesting in that he actually doesnt mind being lynched in many cases, to protect a werewolf from dying. He can also create situations late in the game where he can form a voting block with the remaining werewolf and then block any lunchings from occurring. You can even have cases where the werewolf is trying to convince the cobbler that he is in fact a wolf, or that someone might fake being a cobbler to rat out who the wolf is, so they can then say they arent really a cobbler and lynch them!
Obviously, the cobbler is a strong addition to the werewolf team. I think its a great role for situations where having one more werewolf would be too strong, but without it the werewolves are screwed.

This is OOC but here's the officially given definition from our moderator on the original WW thread.

[The Only Real Estel]

So I guess we should just be looking for behavior along the lines of what I posted above?

[wilwarin538]

I guess so Estel. I'm guessing this game can be confusing some times? ;)

[Firefoot]

There seems to be a bit of confusion about the cobbler... I'll try to explain.It sounds like they're on the werewolf team but they aren't a werewolf, and they dont know who the werewolves are. The seer thinks its a normal villager. What's the point? The cobbler's goal is to protect the wolves by generally taking suspicion on themselves and trying to cast suspicion away from the wolves (i.e., and onto villagers).

For example, say A, B, and C are wolves and D is the cobbler - if the cobbler is convincing, the villagers may think that B, C, and D are wolves but A is innocent. The cobbler is basically supposed to stir up some confusion as to who the real wolves are. This could get critical later in the game when one or two mistakes means the village is cooked (if the cobbler is still around, of course).

I realize that it's a confusing role, but I think you're all thinking too hard about it - probably because of the long explanation. The cobbler's goal is to protect the wolves. S/he is a "wolf-wannabe," as Fea described it; basically they try to act like wolves and be suspicious.

Okay?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Btw, Fea, you left two options out. You might be a regular villager or the cursed one. At this point they are the one and same role, though.
There's an absolutely fantastic reason for this: I had Keeper standing behind me saying "Get the [expletive deleted] off of my computer." He's none too patient when I swipe control of his stuff. I'm amazed he hasn't come to collect his Prismacolors yet.

I am, of course, a regular villager... as far as I'm aware. But since you're not going to believe me anyhow... I'm a wolf and I think we should kill mormegil because he is also a wolf.

LMP: I'll give you the age that I'll be in less than a month: 18. Let us hope your astrological ways can help us.

Lhuna and Nilp can be forgiven for not posting yet; they are in a way different time zone. When the game started, they were presumably fast asleep.

TGWBS should be killed post haste because he thinks (with a grin) that Eomer or I should be killed on DAY 1. Where is the fun of life without Eomer of the Rohirrim in it? ;) As for killing me... I like life so much.

[Durelin]

TGWBS should be killed post haste because he thinks (with a grin) that Eomer or I should be killed on DAY 1. Where is the fun of life without Eomer of the Rohirrim in it?

I'm going to take this and twist it horribly to say that Fea and Eomer are either the Shirrifs or both Wolves because it's just cute.

[Encaitare]

Here I am, Lovelanders; I understand you wanted us all to gather and talk about that poor, poor girl. Bet a lot of you didn't believe in werewolves, eh? Let me tell you, they're real, and they're dangerous. Clever, too. They keep their wits about 'em when they're changed, as we can tell from what they did to -- what was her name? Cinderfeet? Oh, Firefoot, of course.

You probably don't trust a gypsy, but I know right from wrong. I'll help you catch these evil creatures. Here, I've got good luck charms. Anyone who wants some is free to take them. I've a feeling we'll need a bit of luck on our side.

[Saurreg]

Ooooh...

Poor sweet Firefoot. She was a darling, really she was. Aside from dah fact dat this ole' foggy never figured out what she did in this village of o'ers doesn't take away the good impression me haf of her. The dear lassie would always greet me cheerfully every morn when me takes me flock out to pastures and she always had a heart for dah lit' nooborn lambs - toh' she did suffer from what yer call dah Elmyra-komplex - seeh's got a ten'cie to hug 'em, and squeeze 'em and tear 'em to bits. Rest well yer sweet kind und gentle soul. Me will name dee next nooborn after yer...

Right! D'ish villages got ourselves a werewolve prob no? Tisk tisk. Very serious. As of now, we've noobody to point o'er grimmy fingers at yet and drag 'im to dah scaffolds. But may me draw yer all attention to dah sus'pis wulf breedah, Nilp. Hello! Attention please! Dank you!

Now yer all know me haf been looozing me sheep in l'ecent days. Furst it was sweet Mary dat disappeared on dee mea'lows und never returned. Den it was cheeky but adorable Patricia und wot's leif of her was nothing more den bones und skin. Now yer all would moe pro'by think dat dis was dah work of mangy mongrels and 'in perhaps a grey timbah wulf. But wot 'bout me prize winning black sheep, Baa Baa. Yer Gawds!!! Me hart breaks at dah very sound of her name. Sweet Baa Baa! Me took 'er out to dah stream for a nize kool drink, leif her for a nap und wot happened? Seeh disappeared! All dat remained of sweet innocent Baa Baaaaa w'ore 'er intestines spelling out in ra'dah good cursive,

Thanks for lunch. Have a nice day!

Wot cheek! Wot cheek! Me tell yah, it dosen't take a ro'ket se... se... *damn* smartie pants to fi'gah it out dat wolves dinnah write nor spell nor undahstand syntax. Me thinks dat Nilp's got 'is hand in it. Furst dah sheep und seeing how fun und delicious it was, he und his pack most prob when afdah dee lass.

Keep yer eyes on dat wan. He up to no good!

[mormegil]

Now Saurreg I have noticed a recent decline in your sheepherd. At first I almost felt sorry for you, but then I thought better of it and got to doing a little bit of analyzing and I thought what better way to supply a pack a wolves food then be a sheepherder. You've probably kept those poor sheep there until you were unable to get other animals to eat and you were forced to eat those things. Now it looks like your turning to human flesh. I think we have a wolf on our hands here.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

This will be short. My wolves are hungry, and they'll be having their usual.

Thanks for the free lunch for 'em, Saurreg. Always appreciated. :)

OK, where was I? Oh, yes. Profound declaration.

I AM NOT THE COBBLER.

Yes. The cobbler is on the werewolves' team, whereas I am on only one team--the one against myself. I would like to get lynched. That is all. I might get to help the lovely Loveland once or twice, but ultimately, I want to die a gruesome death in your hands.

Am I innocent, you may ask? Of course. But that doesn't change the fact that I, ladies and gents and not-so-gents, would still want to get lynched.

Oh, and Kath's the Ranger, Eomer's ordinary, and guy hasn't called on the abacus yet. ;)

Since I won't be back 'til the next DAY, due to monetary constraints, I shall vote now:

++Nilpaurion Felagundh

Thank you, and good DAY.

This will be great. Nobody thinks that a werewolf will vote for a fellow werewolf on DAY 1.

Hush, Alice.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'm going to take this and twist it horribly to say that Fea and Eomer are either the Shirrifs or both Wolves because it's just cute.
You're right. That is a horrible twist. :) It was cute though.

My thoughts so far, and remember that my thoughts as well as anyone else's are entirely unreliable until at least late DAY 2:

Nilp: wants to die. So what's new? I don't think he's guilty, but there's always the chance that he's using our preconceived ideas about him against us. That would be the smart thing. If he's a wolf, what better to do than act normally?

Kath: the Ranger. ;)

Wilwa: innocent. She's but an inexperienced lass and her posts reflect it (in a good way, of course). I presume [maybe wrongly] that we would see some muddled subtlety if she was trying to hide anything.

Everyone else: There are too doggone many of you to keep tabs on! When I have more free time (meaning tomorrow morning) I'll figure everything out and post for the benefit of all (except the wolves).

And of course, I must lie to keep up appearances: Eomer of the Rohirrim has three eyes.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

. . . wait, did I get that right? :confused:


Nilp: wants to die. So what's new? I don't think he's guilty, but there's always the chance that he's using our preconceived ideas about him against us. That would be the smart thing. If he's a wolf, what better to do than act normally? (Fea otR)
Lies. Except the 'wants to die' part. I am guilty. I am not using preconceived ideas against you, because I seriously want to get lynched. And I'm not acting normally. Not since the day Spike swallowed a bit of that prize-winning black lamb's thigh bone. A sad thing, to choke.

I can only tell the truth or bluff, or, rarely, double-bluff. Triple-bluffs and higher are the faults of your overactive brains. :p

[Oddwen]

This wasn't in the brochure!

What a vacation.

What a vacation spot.

Though that weird Nilp character almost seems like a Cobbler's Cobbler - wanting to draw attention away from the cobbler. Could be part of a Wolfish plan.

Well, I'll have to say more in the morning - all that traveling has me beat. I'll be in the room let to me by D-Spawn if anyone needs me...or wants to find my body. :(

[The Elf-warrior]

I follow the laws of my long-fathers before me. For example, I don't slaughter pigs. It also means I don't mess with astrology or augery (I don't examine
the livers of the animals I kill.) and it also means I'm not a werewolf. Yes I know about the cursed villager but then I wouldn't have a choice in the matter.

I'll comment on my suspicions and the voting in the morning.

[The Only Real Estel]

Though that weird Nilp character almost seems like a Cobbler's Cobbler - wanting to draw attention away from the cobbler. Could be part of a Wolfish plan.

Or maybe he is the cobbler cobbler. Since the cobbler supposedly 'hates his job' so much so that he wants to die, maybe Nilp is playing that role to a 'T'?

Personally I find it more likely he's just being himself, but like Fea said, a wolven Nilp could get a long ways by blaming his suspicions on his normal behavior.

Gah, my brain is turned to oatmeal. Speaking of which, I think I'll have some oatmeal, some peaches & ice cream, & a smoke & then get to bed & hopefully wake up in the morning with a bit clearer head. :confused:

[Saurreg]

Now Saurreg I have noticed a recent decline in your sheepherd. At first I almost felt sorry for you, but then I thought better of it and got to doing a little bit of analyzing and I thought what better way to supply a pack a wolves food then be a sheepherder. You've probably kept those poor sheep there until you were unable to get other animals to eat and you were forced to eat those things. Now it looks like your turning to human flesh. I think we have a wolf on our hands here.

Wo'ts dah mat'er wif yer? Yer g'un mad with bloodlust yer loonie axe-s'chwing hairless munkey! Fur Gawds sheeks snap oui of it! We've got creepy jeepies running o'rund us und getting freebies und such and 'ere yer eyeing me? Crivvens!

[Lhunardawen]

*lets out a loud howling sound* What a horrifying death Firefoot has suffered! Who could have done this to her?

*throws huge rocks at random directions*

I haven't even posted yet, and already people are throwing suspicious looks at me. Is it my fault my behavior is greatly influenced by the moon? *cries like a baby*

Just for the sake of humoring you, lmp, I was 'born' on March 17, now two years and five months. *pouts* See if you can incriminate me any further. Let's see who will have the last laugh.

*laughs like a Lhunatic*

And thank you, Fea. Indeed Nilp and I were fast asleep when the game started. Unless my brother was licking his chops and looking for more. *looks suspiciously around*

So, since this game is based on and all of you are in such weird time zones, I cannot vote toDay. Of course I will not waste my vote on random choices. I need something to base my vote on, and for now there is none. But who knows what the rest of the Day, as well as the Night, will bring?

I just want to say that I'm watching all of you.

*howls*

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Here's some obvious nonsence I scraped up. I don't know how eloquent wolves we are dealing with but these accusations are quite clear. I'd think that the wolves might be more subtle but you can't ever know when everybody's double-bluffing or triple-bluffing.

Elf-warrior defended mormegil.
Wilwa defended him, too but the next thing she said that mormegil's suspiciously eager to kill.

Mormegil and Kath defended Fea. Mormegil suspected Saurreg.
TGWBS is suspicious of everybody.

Lmp made a starmap or something of Lhuna and named her "one of our primary suspects". Since lmp himself doesn't believe the prophecies he makes, we can just ignore him. (Note that Lhuna hadn't even posted yet when lmp revealed his thoughts about her.) :p

Lhuna has spent too much time with his brother. I mean what's this howling and moodiness all about? I have noticed that it's not very popular way to defend yourself anymore by making heartbreaking pleadings. It's just easier to say that I'm a werewolf, what are you waiting for?

Nilp, that poor lad, is just obviously mentally retarded and therefore he shouldn't be allowed to vote. I say we send him to a nice sanatorium until he's less self-mutilative. :p That reminded me of the fact that the cobbler doesn't have to act suicidal so early on because no-one knows who the slavering fur coats are.

I say we kill Saurreg 'cause I don't understand half of what he says (never been very good with dialects). ;)

[littlemanpoet]

Ah but you misunderstand, dancing spawn. Elf warrior seemed to be talking out of character, so I jumped out of character myself. Back in again. Hmmm.... Dancing Spawn tries to get you all to ignore me. She knows that good science has behind it good brains and deductive merit. If she's trying to discredit me, who am innocent, I must wonder why. ::looks suspiciously at dancing spawn of ungoliant::

My star charts are at least as reliable as all your random guesswork. I know all your "birth dates", although time zone may confabulate a few of them. At any rate, I have them right within a few hours. So I don't need you to tell me your birthdates. I need how old you are now. And if you refuse to tell me, I'll sneak a peek at your profile; and if that fails, I'll just assume you're a teenybopper and figure you're 18. So there.

Note that the Moon is now in the Ram. So if Lhuna turned into a Ram instead of a Fish, why then she might still be a werewolf. Otherewise, my suspicions of her were the fault of an inexact science. I shall do further research, namely attempting to discover which of you is ruled my the planet of the irregular orbit.

And fine, it's full and not waning gibbous. Our current moddessgoddess is precisely that. And dead. We must avenge her.

Ack! We've a bunch of teens in our midst as it is! Where are all your pas and mas? Ah well. Who needs werewolves when we've our fair share of irresponsible teens? I shall return with much research.

[the guy who be short]

How could I forget my trusty abacus??

Unfortunately, the abacus deems that spawn is the primary suspect, and I'm not too suspicious of her.

Just for now, I'd like to suggest a Fea-Nilp-Eomer trio. Who are we kidding? We're gonna lynch them anyway. :p

I feel like voting for Elf warrior, more or less on a whim. I'll see how it goes.

[Kath]

Well it's nice to see that Nilp and Lhuna have turned up alive, if a bit the worse for wear. And I think I finally have the role of the cobbler making sense so thanks to Morm and the ghost of Firefoot for that.

As to suspicions how am I supposed to form any when there are so many people! The only person I really have ill-feelings about, and that's not even real suspicion, is TGWBS. He just seems far to keen to lynch people to me and that smacks a bit of werewolvishness. Kill in the night, lynch in the day - death all round. And his continuing attack on Fea and Eomer could just be a joke but maybe it's something a little more sinister.

[the guy who be short]

Now, now, Kath, don't be accusing people just cos they want to lynch people. If we don't lynch anybody, nothing happens. :D

And why would I want to kill Fea and Eomer when there are many more suspicious looking people around? Jest, my dear. It's what blacksmiths do. That and make stuff.

Day closes. Nilp voted for himself. Even if he isn't the Cobbler, he's a cobbler, so why not?

On the other foot, I'm still watching everybody else... yes, I am! With my eyes! And my ears! So beware...

*Goes back to The Forge*

[Kath]

I feel like voting for Elf warrior, more or less on a whim

Thats what I was referring to when I said you were too keen on lynching people. There is no reasoning behind it!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

*skips into the town square*

Hullo, me cherubs!

What's this? Suspicion directed my way? Now, now, I already admitted that Death seems to enjoy my company but He has to get bored sometime, right? :D

Anyway, I have a feeling that Nilp is innocent. A difficult, tricksy, and confusticating innocent yes, but an innocent all the same. What are your thoughts on suicide? If you're against it then it might be an idea to save him (however futile) but if you've nothing against it then it might be an idea to play along with the poor guy. Because after all, we have nothing to go on.

The wolves are being very clever indeed, and the innocents are being extremely good at keeping out of trouble. No-one is giving anyone else a reason to go after them.

A slow start to the Hunt, then. :(

[wilwarin538]

So Nilp does that often??? :rolleyes:

Well looks like people are just throwing accusations around randomly. So I might as well do the same.

I have a bad feeling about Morm and TGWBS.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

As was promised, here are the few solid facts we've got so far:

Dancing Spawn: accused Saurreg

Durelin: thinks there may be a Fea/Eomer team

Eomer: defended mormegil and Nilp

Fea: suspicious of TGWBS, defends Nilp and Wilwa

Kath: accuses TGWBS, defends Fea

Kitanna: defends mormegil

Lhuna: accuses Nilp, incriminates herself with howls at the moon

LMP: accuses Lhuna with help from the stars

Mormegil: accuses Saurreg

Nilp: voted for himself, unsurprisingly. Yes Wilwa, he does that often.

Oddwen: accused Nilp

Saurreg: accused Nilp

TGWBS: accused everybody. :) Defends his accusations of Fea/Eomer as a joke. Also defends Spawn.

Wilwa: accuses morm and TGWBS

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Now that the facts are all together, her are some random theories floating around my head. Take them seriously only at great need, because I doubt I'm right.

Lhuna/Oddwen/Saurreg as wolves, trying to take out innocent Nilp. LMP is Seer in this scenario. Role thinly veiled with astrology talk. Perhaps morm as Seer? He does pin Saurreg for eating his own sheep.

Mormegil/Eomer/Kitanna as wolves. They all defend Mormegil.

There are several ways for wolves to act, but it boils down to two options: they are working together, or they are working apart.

In a village this size, they might assume that working together would go unnoticed amongst all of the hubbub. I'm not so sure that this is how it would go though, because any wolves would know that there are some bright young (and old, eh LMP? :p) minds in this village who keep tabs on anything that seems like working together. If you make a list, you can easily see trends. So on the one hand, it seems like the wolves would know better than to defend or accuse as one.

However... there is the beautiful act of bluffing. If the wolves know how idiotic it would be to work together, than obviously the village does. If the village assumes an act of sheer stupidity as being impossible, then the wolves have a perfect opening. The trick for us, I think, is to remember that nothing is impossible. Improbable is the most likely.

Still... Day 1 is meaningless until about Day 3. After that, you see what you were utterly blind to before. Since it is not yet Day 3, we are blind.

I say that, for lack of any better ways of doing this, we lynch Lhuna for these reasons:

LMP pegged her with the stars (which, as he said, are "at least" as accurate as anything random we do)
She came in howling at the full moon. Silly theatrics? Bluff?
It's not like we've currently got anyone better
Conversely, I say we kill Saurreg because I can't understand half of what he says.

Or we kill Eomer, because tradition is, after all, tradition.

Obligatory lie: I'm the Seer.

[mormegil]

Here is my list of people I feel are acting most like wolves. The first list are the most suspicious and the second are suspicious but not as much as the first

1. Durelin
2. Elf-warrior
3. Encai
4. Saurreg



1. Kath
2. Dancing Spawn
3. Oddwen
4. Oromin
5. TGWBS

Not a lot to go on with the first day but this is my list and I currently defend all the others.

[Saurreg]

Me canna help but feel dat sumthings afoot 'ere. Why ol' why haf Morm, Spawn and Fea all suddenly 'ermarked me for dah gallows?

D'ish ol' coot husn't sez anything sus'pis und dah fingers 're o'relly pointed at 'im. For no good reason I reckon. Nothing being able to undahstand me aren't me fault.

Wot wrung did me dewl to deserve such ac... accu... fingers!

Prrray tell laddie und lassies cuz like they say of ol' , he who throws dah stone be'er stay clear or 'll land on 'is head. Und woodn't dat be ah sorry sight?

[Oddwen]

Well. In all my twenty-eight years I've never seen such a mess. I wish I'd never left my dear little Storyland *sniff*.

Well we've got about three hours to go, and only one vote cast, that of Nilp for Nilp. This kid...I've only been here for a day, and he's already making my head spin.

Right now, my suspicions are heightened only against Wilwa of the Numbers and The Guy. I have to be careful and remember to back up my bad feelings with evidence, therefore I cannot say anything against Morm and Saurreg.
That's probably only a stranger's opinion, as I've been travelling around the countryside these eight months and have never met any of you before, ever, though I have seen stranger. ;)

Madame Butterfly, because of her seeming innocent posts - she almost seems to not know what she is supposed to do with her state. This again, could be to extreme inexperience.

T. Guy, because as has been said, is not using an abacus. What this exactly means I have no idea, but it seems to have a mathematical ring to it - I'm assuming he doesn't use it because the Maths which Do Not Lie would point him out. And he couldn't fudge it, because well...Math does Not Lie.

I seriously doubt that I will have another chance to vote today. Nay, I shall not have a chance. Therefore, this poor journeywoman must do the best with the wisdom given her -

++THE GUY WHO BE SHORTNESS

[Durelin]

Maybe Morm's list has something right on it. 'Tis a bit random, but aren't all our guesses?

Okay my dears, I think we need to figure some other things out before we just lynch somebody. It's important that we do that of course (and hopefully lynch a bloody werewolf), but we also need to get things started to give us the ups on the wolves. So I think it might be time to suggest who the Hunter should want to kill if he/she is killed, who the Seer should dream about, and...well, I guess it'd be hard to tell the Ranger who to guard, but we might try that too. It's all going to be hard to say, but...we need to put our heads together.

Since there's more good heads than bad heads, we should at least get something out of these...

Speaking of heads... *wanders off toward a rhododendron* Pretty pretty pretty...oop, dead *pick*...pretty pretty pretty pretty preety...dead *pick*...pretty...

[The Only Real Estel]

Well, after reading everthing that's been posted I've come to a conclusion: I was right in my earlier thinking (post #11) - this will be a shot in the dark, or at least from my perspective.

I have a few shallow leads that I'm working on and wondering about, but likes I've said before, not much can be told until we have some votes to work with. I will most likely end up voting for someone almost entirely at random, unless we can get some goods on a wolf in the next few hours.

[the guy who be short]

A vote? For me?! The wonderful village smith?!?!

Oddy - The Abacus is usually used to pick a person at random, but it chose dancing spawn, who I think isn't suspicious enough to lynch at the moment.

My vote shall wait a while yet. There's a lot of suspicious people about...

[Kitanna]

I'm tempted to vote for Saurreg, simply because I can't understand half of what he said. But that would be a waste of my vote because I don't find him all that suspicious.

Reading through what everyone has said I find TGWBS to be a little suspicious. Not using your abacus? I'm shocked and horrified.
I'm watching Fea too. She was a dirty liar before, there's no telling if she's a liar now...
But I don't know if I find those two so suspicious that I'll vote for them today.

I'll probably do the Estel thing and pull someone randomly.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Here's my little leaky scenario.

The wolves are The Elf-warrior, wilwa and mormegil. Why, you ask. Because:
Elf-warrior defended morm in his first post and so did wilwa. After twelve minutes wilwa said that she thinks mormegil's eagerness to kill is suspicious. It was like they had suddenly remembered that they were supposed to keep it schtum.

After that mormegil suspects Elf-warrior. Elf-warrior is on second place in mormegil's list so he doesn't actually have to vote for him today. Tomorrow he can have another suspects and if Elf-warrior is a wolf, mormegil can defend himself with his suspicion list.

Wilwarin keeps repeating that she is confused (three times in a row). I think it's rather suspicious. "Oh, I couldn't be a wolf, I'm a first timer." Hmm...

The Elf-warror has posted quite many times but he doesn't really say anything. He promised to comment his suspicions and voting later... I look forward to that.


Saurreg and lmp, I don't want to see either of you dead (yet). I thought that winking smileys would tell that I wasn't entirely serious in my comments of you. Guess not.

I had to read Saurreg's last post thrice, though, before I understood it. Is "o'relly" already? Couldn't figure that one out.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Fea, I did defend Morm but that was from a mirthful remark right at the start. More telling perhaps is that I threw doubt on the merit of his plan of randomly picking a villager to lynch.

And this:

I am slightly troubled by Morm's list. Why he has, on a number of occasions, mentioned The Elf-Warrior as seeming suspicious, I cannot fathom.

As for Saurreg, he appears to be mixing some Scots into his dialogue, thus I can understand him better than all of you. :D I don't think he's suspicious at all. But then, I'm not sure if I'm finding anyone really suspicious at the moment.

Except maybe Fea. :p Honestly though, her list troubles me slightly because it does not distinguish between serious theories and clear mirth.

So Fea and Mormegil are at the top of my list, even though I reckon they're probably both innocent. I'm really sorry guys but there is so little to go on. Still, I eagerly await your defence of my feeble accusations. I think I could be easily swayed on this day.

[Durelin]

All suspicions are leaky...though what you say makes sense.

Though I guess at this point most anything makes sense....

At this point I'm tempted to vote for Morm simply because he's suspicious of me, for no reason as I can tell. :p

*Note: cross-posted with Eomer

[The Only Real Estel]

Spawn: I had thought of Wilwa as possibly being a wolf because of the way she jumped at the chance to accuse Mromegil based on his earliest post but I'm thinking it was more of a 'someone has to cast the first stone' type of decision.

At any rate I should have my vote in about an hour to an hour and a half.

[the guy who be short]

The day grows old.

++Nilpaurion Felagund

He's gonna confuse me anyway. Best get rid of him once and for all (and get his lynch rate up to a semi-respectable 67%).

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Spawn: I had thought of Wilwa as possibly being a wolf because of the way she jumped at the chance to accuse Mromegil based on his earliest post but I'm thinking it was more of a 'someone has to cast the first stone' type of decision.
But why would a confused first timer want to cast the first stone?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

You intrigue me spawn: the butterfly might well be worth a gamble. I'll go back now and read all her posts.

Does anyone actually think that Nilp is a werewolf? I seriously doubt it. He voted for himself.

[The Only Real Estel]

Good question. I would assume a first timer would be more likely to jump at straws then vets, and she may not have been confused at first. I'm not sure actually, I'd love to here from her about this...

edit: cross-posting with Eomer

[Saurreg]

I canna stay for long, me flock needs tending to. Can yer hear them mangy wulf howling o'relly?

So before me go, me kast me vote:

++sus'pis wulf breedah, Nilp

've yer a stinking wulf, may yer flesh rut und skin fawl uff!

If not, at least yer'll pay for dah krimes of yer fawl dogs!

Oooh Mary, Patty, Baa Baa and Firefoot!!! Maye d'ish day bring yer innocent souls justis'h.

[the guy who be short]

Does anyone actually think that Nilp is a werewolf? I seriously doubt it. He voted for himself.What better way to disguise himself. For a lack of anybody else saying "lynch me, I'm a wolf" I'm going with Nilpy.

[wilwarin538]

Elf-warrior defended morm in his first post and so did wilwa. After twelve minutes wilwa said that she thinks mormegil's eagerness to kill is suspicious. It was like they had suddenly remembered that they were supposed to keep it schtum.

I was actually more agreeing with him then defending him.

Wilwarin keeps repeating that she is confused (three times in a row). I think it's rather suspicious. "Oh, I couldn't be a wolf, I'm a first timer." Hmm...

The one time when I said I was confused it was because Guy I believe had a post that was very repetitive and I was just making a joke. The other time it was because I truly didn't understand the Cobbler's job. I don't remember what the third one was.

I will be voting soon. I have a feeling it might be for Morm, unless someone says something that changes my mind.

~Wilwa of the numbers aka Madame Butterfly ;)

[Durelin]

I do wish I could just lynch everyone...would be so much simpler and less confusing. ;)

Estel's talked about how it's a 'shot in the dark' on the first day....and this time, Morm's the one in the dark getting shot in my metaphorical darkness with my metaphorical bullet.

++Mormegil

I have no idea....I just need to get back to my flowers. And he said I was suspicious, for no reason...so here's a reason for you to say I'm suspicious, deary. :p

I was really tempted to take up the 'everyone votes for themselves' plan, but Nilp's doing too well with that...didn't want to take away from his glory.

~Durelin not-a-wolf-but-more-like-the-hunter-or-seer-dead-header

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ok, I've read wilwa's posts and she doesn't really give me the chills. Her questioning of Morm was a nothing post, the kind of which we all make at the start of the DAY 1. Her most confusing post is actually #72, in which she seems baffled by the nature of what she calls 'random accusations'. Now, this strikes me as probably a youngster's naivety. The accusations are not really random wilwa; they are designed to gauge reactions.

wilwa then says she has a bad feeling about Morm and tgwbs. Here she offers completely random accusations. This would be a ridiculous thing for a wolf to do. She does not overly concern me.

It's still Mormegil and Fea who I'd like to hear from. I'll be here until voting is over so if you need me to repeat my pathetic accusations then I'll do it for you; it's the least you deserve! :D

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

As for Saurreg, he appears to be mixing some Scots into his dialogue, thus I can understand him better than all of you. I kin understan'h 'im, ih's jus' the posting equivilin'h of readin'h the Silm, and when I wan' t' figure stuff ou', I like The Hobbi'h. ;)

Except maybe Fea. :p Honestly though, her list troubles me slightly because it does not distinguish between serious theories and clear mirth.
The reason I didn't draw a clear line between serious theories and mirth is because it is very easy to go back and say "well I hid my serious theory inside of mirth just so I wouldn't be killed before I had a chance to back up my ideas". The same way as it is easy to mistake a joke for something serious. Also, with all of our villagers who are inexperienced in the ways of death-dealing, a joke is just as likely to sway a vote as seriousness is.

Now, my doves, I have to vote. I'd love to stay and chat some more, but I've got to pack.

Since we have no hard evidence of anything, I'm going to say that we should lynch ++ NILP.

Though I doubt his guilt, it would be sickeningly easy for him to hide his wolvery behind his please-lynch-me facade. If we refrained from killing him because we assumed it impossible that a wolf would vote for himself, it would play into wolvish hands, should he have them. Also, if I'm wrong, I'll remain his hero for trying to boost his lynch rate up to 67%.

Try not to kill me whlie I'm gone. See ya Friday morning.

Obligatory lie: I'm going to ace my foreign language placement test tomorrow.

EDIT: lots of cross-posts.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Wilwa, this was the third one: "I'm guessing this game can be confusing some times?"

The problem with Nilp is that he's just being himself and he could be anybody. I repeat, anybody. His behaviour is a perfect disguise no matter what he is.

I'll be back before the nightfall and I'll cast my vote then. I want to hear something from mormegil and Elf-warrior first.

[mormegil]

Eomer, I am slightly confused when you say I repeatedly mention Elf-warrior. I could be wrong but I think I've only mentioned him once. However he was mentioned by others perhaps you are confused on that.

Anyway if I look suspicious to you lot that's fine. I just ask who will be doing your killing for you? I found Saurreg's vehemence at my accusation interesting. Durelin has posted some but not given much to go on (that's why I find you suspicious) and your recent post seem to solidify my suspicions of you. Trying to redirect suspision on he who cast it upon you.

Elf-warrior is acting similar to Durelin though I am less suspicious of him.

Encai simply gave a short post with little to go on. I'm not a fan of that. I like some substance.

My second list, I suspect them because they just don't seem to sit right with me. I'm not sure what that means but something to think about for me anyway.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Fea is excused. See? I didn't really suspect you that much. And you made a good point about mirth being intrinsically linked to serious voting; I should know that better than anyone. :rolleyes: ;)

I'd love to hear from Morm soon. As it stands it seems Nilp is going to die anyway. Maybe it's for the best. I'll hopefully get to query Morm tomorrow even if he doesn't show up today. He's worth watching, in my view. His list of suspicion baffles me.

Edit to add: just saw morm's post. Will comment soon.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I must announce that I have done Mormegil a disservice: he has indeed only mentioned The Elf-Warrior once. I was getting confused with something or other. For that I am sorry. It was an honest mistake. I'll try to find the source of this.

Hmm, I'll go back and think about your list Morm. I think you might be off the hook now.

Sorry, again. :o

[Encaitare]

Encai simply gave a short post with little to go on. I'm not a fan of that. I like some substance.

Suspect me not, for I have been about, following the responses for a good part of the morning. It just so happened that my computer crapped out while I was replying. So here is what I was going to say:

Nilp makes me uneasy. He could just be messing with our heads, and I'm not familiar with strategies he may have used in the past. He quite frankly confuses me with his suicidal tendencies, so wolf or not, he ought to just get out of the way. If he were someone important who could help the villagers, then I don't think he'd act so reckless.

mormegil has been at the center of attention for a while, which makes me a wee bit suspicious.

Mormegil/Eomer/Kitanna as wolves. They all defend Mormegil.

This seems to make some sense to me at the moment, though Nilp remains at the top of my list. I'll be observing for a bit longer, and I'll get my vote in soon.

[The Elf-warrior]

Elf-warrior defended morm in his first post and so did wilwa. Wot! Actually, I chided mormegil not to rush to judgment in my first post, post 4. Then, I defended mormegil in post 25. You might be confused, you might be a wolf. I doubt Fea or Lhuna are wolves. Fea seems to be making sense. Lhuna howled like a wolf, you say? Well, where I come from there's a saying, "Live with wolves howl like a wolf." I'm not really suspicious of lmp. After all he might just be trying a random method of finding wolves.

Anything now is guesswork but I'm suspicious of TGWBS, Dancing Spawn and ?? Nilp.

I'll vote soon and then I'll be gone till the next DAY.

[Kitanna]

So far:
Nilp
Himself
Fea
Saurreg
TGWBS

Morm
Durelin

TGWBS
Oddwen

Personally I think Nilp is just being himself and is innocent. As for Morm, well I'm always suspicious of that sneaky man. I defended his orignal blood lust because he is the town executioner, but I won't vote for him today. I'd rather watch him a little first. And the The Guy, well I'm suspicious of him too, but only for silly and pointless reasons. I'm suspicious of Fea for those same silly and pointless reasons.

Wilwa deserves watching. She may be hiding behind the first timer thing. But it is the first day and her confusion is relatively understandable. If her "confusion" continues well into Day 2 then I think we may have a wolf.

It seems Nilp is headed for the ax anyway. This is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. We could lynch him and he could well be innocent, oops. Or we don't lynch him and he lives 'til the end and we villagers lose. But then again it could be vice versa. He's innocent, lives 'til the end we villagers win. Mmmmm, tough choice.

If we refrained from killing him because we assumed it impossible that a wolf would vote for himself, it would play into wolvish hands, should he have them.
I agree with Fea. So I must cast my vote.

++ Nilp

It seems your headed there anyway.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Interesting theory, this Morm/Eomer/Kitanna alliance. It goes something like this:

Morm: "I'm the executioner, let's get to work!"

Someone else (Elf-Warrior? Wilwa?): "A bit eager for bloodshed, Morm?"

Eomer: "It's ok, he's the executioner."

Kitanna: *crossposting, I believe* "He's the executioner; he's bloodthirsty by nature."

Every other rational person: "O yea. It's right at the start of the game where role-playing is all we have to amuse ourselves with."


How very suspicious indeed! :eek:

[The Only Real Estel]

Well it looks like there's a good chance that Nilp will be the one to be hung but I'm not going to jump on that bandwagon. It seems that the main evidence against him is that we are afraid of his mindgames, and besides, he...uh, might be a wolf. The problem with this method is what if he's a gifted villager? What if we end up hanging our seer on day one just because we were unnerved by him acting like he always does? I agree that we shouldn't just give him a free pass on the 'be yourself is all that you can be' (gah, I can't get rid of that song!) basis, but I had planned on checking him again on day two or three, when we at least had some more comments and some votes to go on. Oh well, it looks to late anyway.

Wilwa, your explanation mostly satisfied me, though I think you might still bear some watching.

I am not feeling very happy with TGWBS for being the first to jump on the Nilp bandwagon (started by Nilp himself). I don't buy the whole, 'I don't see anyone who volunteered himself' to be lynched theory at all. If Nilp is an ordinary villager he may actually have been doing us all a service by voting for himself. If he knew that he wouldn't be able to vote later but had nothing to go on now he voted for someone he knew to be ordinary, rather than accidently guide suspicions in the direction of a guardian or somebody else.

[The Elf-warrior]

Time is running out for me so I'll vote for
++TGWBS If you are not a wolf, sorry. See you all the next DAY.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

If Nilp is gifted then, in the future, my ghost will make his ghost's afterlife a nightmare (and I suspect the ghosts of every other villager will do likewise).

It's looking like he's going to die first. If he's innocent he had better be ordinary...

[littlemanpoet]

If you think Nilp is innocent, then why bloody vote for him? Because you're a werewolf?

My prognostications inform me that Nilp is as innocent as the sky is blue, and that we must leave him alive long enough to see his endgame. Dare to go against the heavens, you miscreants!

Further prognostications inform me that Eomer, Morm, Wilwa, Spawn, and Saurreg are probably innocent. Eomer's endgame must be allowed to play out. Saurreg is a shirriff. Wait and see.

There are a few people who are hiding behind fair skin. I trust them not, nor do the stars.

++ the guy who be short

He is as wolfish as the day is long.

Feanor, say the heavens, may be a liar, but she can't help but make sense, at which times her words are trustworthy though dressed in dissembling.

So say the heavens. Demean and deplore them at your own risk.

[Kitanna]

and besides, he...uh, might be a wolf. The problem with this method is what if he's a gifted villager? What if we end up hanging our seer on day one just because we were unnerved by him acting like he always does?
Do you think the Seer would really be running around screaming "LYNCH ME! LYNCH! DO IT NOW!" On the first day? I don't think the Seer would even dream of voting for him/herself...ever.

If Nilp is an ordinary villager he may actually have been doing us all a service by voting for himself. If he knew that he wouldn't be able to vote later but had nothing to go on now he voted for someone he knew to be ordinary, rather than accidently guide suspicions in the direction of a guardian or somebody else.
This may be true, but we have no way of knowing for sure.

EDIT: I'd like to add though Nilp said he was innocent he might simply have been trying to confuse us. As I said, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

The Elf-warrior and wilwa, I'm so sorry, you're absolutely right. I wasn't careful enough while searching your posts. Sorry. But that doesn't mean that I'll abandon my theory. ;)

I don't want to vote for Nilp for the same reasons as Estel.

Some people have remained really silent today but I think it's understandable since no-one has anything certain to say...maybe.

I'll vote soon.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

This is so difficult. I'm sure we are all familiar with the strategy of lynching ordinary villagers as being preferable to lynching gifted villagers. In theory this idea sounds OK at first but delve deeper and you discover that the strategy does not offer a hell of a lot more than voting honestly, and openly declaring who you think the wolves are.

I really don't think Nilp is a wolf. I am understanding of why people are voting for him but it wouldn't feel right to go against my heart like this. I just can't vote for someone I have zero suspicion for. I'm not sure how much this will matter though because time is running out and it's hard to say how many votes will actually be received.

[The Only Real Estel]

posted by Kitanna:
Do you think the Seer would really be running around screaming "LYNCH ME! LYNCH! DO IT NOW!" On the first day? I don't think the Seer would even dream of voting for him/herself...eve

Which is exactly why Nilp might do it. He probably wouldn't though, that's a good point; but I could still see him having a lesser gifted role & doing what he did.

Posted by Kitanna:
This may be true, but we have no way of knowing for sure.

Which is why I was going to check back once we had more to work with.

Posted by Kitanna:
EDIT: I'd like to add though Nilp said he was innocent he might simply have been trying to confuse us. As I said, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

He could've been. But with a few more days & more evidence we would've had a better idea. Personally, I'd be very suprised if Nilp was a wolf. If you think he's innocent than don't bandwagon, vote for either TGWBS or someone else totally different - the worst thing you could do would be bandwagon just because 'it looks like he's going to die'.

Edit: Perhaps I've come on to strong on TGWBS, I have no evidence against him other than him jumping at Nilp, but I can see from his point of view on that. I just don't buy it. I would like to revist his case a few days from now, but if I do that Nilp will probably die. *Sigh* I hate all these decisions, I'd better have a quick smoke.

[wilwarin538]

Ok well I think I'll vote know and see what happens.

++Mormegil

~Wilwa

[mormegil]

I am going to stick with who I feel most guilty.

++DURELIN

This may look like a knee-jerk reaction, however remember please that I initially suspected her and yet she admitted she was voting for me simply because I voted for her.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Durelin also suggested we debate who the Seer should dream about and who the Guardian should protect. She has since been quiet about our lack of activity on that front. I am still pondering this idea. I can't quite figure out if this is a genuine innocent's idea. Is she trying to pinpoint the Seer?

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

*Sigh* I hate all these decisions, I'd better have a quick smoke.
Beware! Halflings' leaf may slow your mind. ;)

I would feel more comfortable if lmp and Elf-warrior had given reasons for their votes for TGWBS.

Ok, I don't have much time left (well, none of us has) so here goes nothing.
++DURELIN. And that's because of the reasons that Eomer said and because she has posted really often but she hasn't really said anything. Sorry, but that's my vote today.

[Firefoot]

You only have 20 minutes left, and six of you have not voted. You can't all wait till the last minute, you know. :p

[The Only Real Estel]

Well, I see no reason for waiting any longer to vote. I'm not voting for Nilp and though I was disappointed that TGWBS touched off the voting on said resident-suspicioner I have no reason other than that to suspect him of guilt. In fact I see no one that I'm sure of, so I will vote for ++Oromin, and the only 'reason' I can give for that is that he/she (sorry) has only posted once. But I don't expect to see Oro lynched anyway, so I won't feel guilty about that reasoning...

[Kitanna]

If you think he's innocent than don't bandwagon, vote for either TGWBS or someone else totally different - the worst thing you could do would be bandwagon just because 'it looks like he's going to die'.

That's quite true, but I went back to Nilp's post to read and reread and reread once more for good measure. 50% of me thinks he is a wolf, just trying to trick us. 40% of me thinks he's a regular old villager trying to save a gifted villager. 10% of me thinks he's the cobbler. Only I don't think the cobbler would volunteer to be lynched on day one. But I am an easily swayed person. I may yet change my vote, but for now I keep my vote for Nilp.

[Encaitare]

Very well.

++Nilpaurion "Kill Me Now" Felagund

[The Only Real Estel]

I may yet change my vote, but for now I keep my vote for Nilp

Irretractable votes. But that's okay, I guess, he's gone anyway. Let's just hope he's either a wolf (unlikely to me), an ordinary villager (hopefully), or a cobbler (unlikely to me).

By the way, Firefoot, I know with the Cursed Villager the villagers don't know they've hung the Cursed. If Nilp is the cobbler will we know it or will he just look like an innocent villager until the end of the game?

[Firefoot]

I'll let you know if you kill the cobbler.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I think Durelin is going to get herself lynched by acting in such a way, but I think she's probably innocent. She seems eager to help.

I must vote for:

++ODDWEN

She voted for tgwbs at a critical point when votes were just starting. The posts preceding her vote suggested that a lynch tgwbs train was just starting to roll, and indeed he has garnered three (I think) votes, for nothing altogether suspicious, in my view.

I know it's slightly outrageous and left-of-centre, but I think she's doing well at hiding; she's voted for someone I don't consider suspicious (indeed she started these votes), and I have a feeling she might be a wolf. Genuinely.

It won't matter because Nilp's going to get lynched. If I can speak to Oddwen tomorrow then maybe she can convince me of her innocence. I don't think this vote will matter too much but there it is.

[Firefoot]

The Day has ended. Expect Nilp's death soon.

[Firefoot]

As the sun drew even with the horizon, the villagers were still unsure of the wolves’ identities but they had cast their lots in with Nilpaurion’s lynching – never mind that less than half of them actually thought he was a wolf.

But it really is easier to lynch someone in darkness than in the broad daylight, and a chant rose up, “Kill the wolf! Kill the wolf!” Nilpaurion only looked slightly put out by this. “But I’m not a wolf! I just want you to lynch me!”

The mob paid no attention to this and instead began ushering Nilpaurion towards the gallows which the executioner had conveniently ordered to be built some time ago.

Then one voice made itself heard over the others. “Why hang him? Let his wolves kill the wolf!”

“It wouldn’t work!” claimed another. “No sensible animal bites the hand that feeds it.” Besides, Nilp’s wolf farm was much farther away than this unused gallows, and the shouts of “Let the wolves kill the wolf” were drowned out in the sea of voices, as was the lone shout at the back of the mob, “I’m the executioner! Let me do my job!”

Those at the front paid no heed as they began to tie the rope around Nilp’s neck, perhaps with a little too much glee. They stepped back from the gallows and pulled the lever. Nilp seemed to hang there, still grinning at them. The villagers were confused. Why wasn’t Nilp dying?

Who tied this rope anyway? You villagers don’t even know how to tie a slip knot, let alone lynch someone.

“Hush, Adam,” answered Nilp. “I’m being lynched. That’s the important part.”

“This is ridiculous,” grumbled someone. “He might hang there all night.”

Shouts of agreement went up, and a couple people forced their way to the front bearing heavy sticks.

“He can defy the gallows, but no one can withstand a beating for long!” This idea was eagerly taken up and with a flurry of movement the villagers were pressed around the gallows as the sticks were swung at Nilp’s body.

“Hey, that hurts!” said Nilp. What did you expect? snickered Adam.

Eventually, there had been enough wild swings that Nilp’s neck slipped free of the poorly tied noose, and his bruised and bloody body collapsed in a heap. The villagers didn’t stop there, however – like eager children trying to get all the candy out of a piñata, they continued to beat Nilp’s still body, delighting to hear the bones crack and see new rivulets of blood spill down his back. Finally, a crushing blow was delivered to Nilp’s head. No way was he still alive. The villagers stepped back, no longer in admiration of their handiwork. Nothing had happened. The wolves could barely contain their victorious smiles – Nilp had been an ordinary villager.

~*~*~*~

Living:

Dancing Spawn
Durelin
Elf-warrior
Encai
Eomer
Feanor
Kath
Kitanna
Lhuna
LMP
Mormegil
Oddwen
Oromin
Saurreg
TGWBS
TORE
Wilwarin

Dead:

Firefoot – drowned and burned by werewolves on Night 1
Nilpaurion (Ordinary Villager) – beat piñata style and killed by villagers on Day 1

Score:

Werewolves – 3
Villagers – 14

It is now Night 2. Werewolves may PM and should send me your choice of a kill. Seer, PM me with your choice of a dream. Ranger, tell me who you want to protect. Hunter, tell me who you want to kill in case the wolves kill you. Shirriffs, stop PMing.

Night will end in 24 hours.

[Firefoot]

As if by unspoken agreement the villagers all gathered quietly in the town square the next morning. The gallows standing nearby was an ominous reminder of the previous night’s mistake no one wanted to remember or repeat.

It soon became clear that one of their number would not be showing up: Feanor of the Peredhil was missing. The villagers quickly agreed that they had better go find out what had happened, though no one doubted for a moment that the wolves had killed her.

Fortunately, the walk was not long and the villagers were soon standing in front of Fea’s very nice house.

“One would think that a pathological liar wouldn’t have so much money to spend,” grumped one of the more honorable villagers.

“I’d rather be poor and living than wealthy and dead,” retorted another, and that was the end of that.

Fortunately, they did not have to force themselves into the house this time - the wolves had left the door slightly ajar. Not only that, but the villagers found that starting in the entrance hall there was a trail of arrows pointing the way – arrows painted in blood. “How nice,” said one of the villagers, sarcastically hysterical. “Not only is the door open, but we don’t even have to search the whole house.”

Nevertheless, the villagers followed the relatively short trail to its end in a rather spacious room. They saw no sign of Fea, however; instead, the final arrow pointed to two words: Obligatory lie.

“The arrows’ directions were a lie,” explained someone for those who didn’t understand. “We’ll have to search the house after all.” The search took somewhat longer, since Fea’s house was more complex in layout than Firefoot’s cabin.

Their search was ended with the discovery of another message: Second lie: Fea was a wolf. This time, however, it wasn’t written in blood. It was written in guts – Fea’s guts.

The villagers’ gazes traveled upwards and alighted on the rest of Fea. After being gutted, she had been stuffed (no one cared to find out with what), posed, and laid on the mantelpiece as a hunter might display a prized pheasant. Indeed, the wolves had been quite pleased with their choice of kill.

“Well…” said one villager (the same who had said they would catch the wolves or die trying), “she wasn’t a werewolf, but at least she wasn’t anything else either.” Tactless as this comment was, it was true. Fea had been entirely ungifted.

~*~*~*~

Living:

Dancing Spawn
Durelin
Elf-warrior
Encai
Eomer
Kath
Kitanna
Lhuna
LMP
Mormegil
Oddwen
Oromin
Saurreg
TGWBS
TORE
Wilwarin

Dead:

Firefoot – drowned and burned by werewolves on Night 1
Nilpaurion (Ordinary Villager) – beat piñata style and killed by villagers on Day 1
Fea (Ordinary Villager) – gutted and stuffed by werewolves on Night 2

Score:

Werewolves – 3
Villagers – 13

It is now Day 2. Wolves should stop PM’ing; Shirriffs may start. Day will end in 24 hours.

[the guy who be short]

Ah, well that's out of the way then! The pathological liar and Nilp are both out of the picture and both ungifted. This is very fortunate; two of the most puzzling characters removed from the village, and neither of their deaths too much of a hindrance.

Now to analyse what the two have said.

[Durelin]

This may look like a knee-jerk reaction, however remember please that I initially suspected her and yet she admitted she was voting for me simply because I voted for her.
Hehe, well, we all know first day voting is completely...well, pointless. I really had nothing to go on...and so, I went with the only person who said I was *suspicious*. Knowing my own innocence...why not vote for who thinks I'm not? *shrugs* I wouldn't say anyone was being wolfish just for that...but that's just me. Maybe I'm too old for this sort of thing...

Durelin also suggested we debate who the Seer should dream about and who the Guardian should protect. She has since been quiet about our lack of activity on that front. I am still pondering this idea. I can't quite figure out if this is a genuine innocent's idea. Is she trying to pinpoint the Seer?
Uh huh...Well, earlier I went off to tend to my flowers, figuring that when I came back some progress would be made in that direction. But I was wrong, so I thought I might give everyone a good kick in the rear.

I think Durelin is going to get herself lynched by acting in such a way, but I think she's probably innocent. She seems eager to help.
Now I might give Nilp a run for his money, eh? ;)

Time to really get to hunting werewolves now that two innocents are dead...

Edelweiss are calling...

~Rhodedendron Durelin

[mormegil]

The following is a simple list of who voted for whom. The number to the right is the number of posts made by that individual.

Nilp
Nilp-2
TGWBS-9
Saurreg-4
Fea-6
Kitanna-5
Encai-3

TGWBS
Oddwen-2
Elf-warrior-8
LMP-4

Mormegil
Durelin-12
Wilwarin-9

Durelin
Mormegil-8
Dancing Spawn-10

Oromin
TORE-13

Oddwen
Eomer-14

No Vote
Kath-6
Lhuna-1
Oromin-1


One thing I find very revealing is Kath's no vote. She posted enough to vote and even voiced suspicion about TGWBS but yet didn't vote. I would also be willing to bet that at least one wolf was in the Nilp voting list. That would leave us only 4 on the list. I would posit that Encai and Kitanna are the most suspicious currently out of those and Saurreg the least. I think that TGWBS bears watching as well as Kath.

Now I can see a Kath/TGWBS team. Kath mentioned her suspicions of TGWBS but didn't vote especially when she saw how close TGWBS was getting to death. On the other hand Kath could be a wolf and TGWBS innocent. What I'm saying is we need to watch Kath very closely

[wilwarin538]

That was definetly a terrible way to die. :( I suppose we are lucky though, that she wasn't gifted, but it is still upsetting. I will be away for most of today, so don't expect to hear much from me.

**walks away playing "Another one bites the dust"**

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I must say I am baffled by the Werewolves' pick: why Fea? If anyone was going to attract suspicion now that Nilp is dead, it would be the resident pathological liar.

I'll miss the lass. Fair as a springtime rainbow she was. Who could want to despoil such a thing?

For what it's worth, she claims to have suspected tgwbs in an early post. I'm not sure why. I think this was a case of mistaking mirth with serious accusations again. Come to think of it, I'm not sure why the guy who be short attracted that many votes.

Anyone care to reveal what's so wolvish about him? :confused:

[The Elf-warrior]

Poor Feanor of the Peredhil. What a horrible way to have your belief confirmed. Sorry I didn't give any reasons for my suspicions or analyze the voting patterns, Dancing Spawn. I suspected you because you misread me and Wilwa's early posts. But I can see how you read them wrong. Unless things change, you're cleared. I don't think wanting to vote for me is really that suspicious. The main reason why I was suspicious of TGWBS was that he suggested preemptorily lynching Fea and Eomer. Later on I saw the smiley face at the end of his post and figured that he was joking about Eomer. When I re-read the thread today I saw were he said he was just joking. That includes the late Fea. I believe him so he's cleared unless things change. Nilp, of course, is dead and was an ordinary villager. I was suspicious of him because of his strange (Ordinary.) behaviour. I voted for The Guy because I didn't want to jump on the "Lynch Nilp." bandwagon. And yes, it did make sense to vote for him. I thought better of voting for you so I voted for The Guy. I didn't think he'd get lynched anyway.

I need to get off the computer so I'll post sometime in this DAY.

PS. I see Morm suspects a Kath/Guy conspiracy. I'd be more suspicious of Kath.

[mormegil]

PS. I see Morm suspects a Kath/Guy conspiracy. I'd be more suspicious of Kath.

I do, however I can see a possibility of that though I don't suspect it much.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Hmm. Did you really not notice that he was joking Elf-Warrior?

And what of Oddwen and littlemanpoet? I want to hear from those two.

Now, I know what you're thinking: Why is Eomer defending tgwbs? Well, I'm not so much defending him as I am accusing the others of acting strangely. I don't understand how tgwbs managed to garner three votes on DAY 1. Perhaps it's not Oddwen I should have voted for; perhaps I should have turned my attention toward Elf-Warrior and especially littlemanpoet.

Let's look at those three:

Oddwen started the voting for tgwbs, shortly after the murmurs against guy were starting. He looked like the second target (after Nilp, of course). Plus she was hiding. I admit that's not too much to go on but I knew my vote was going to be unimportant anyway so I didn't feel bad about throwing Oddwen's name into the mix.

The Elf-Warrior has actually had exchanges with tgwbs. He was suspicious of guy over what seemed to me clear mirth (maybe it's just because I was a central character in the mirth. :p ) His vote is slightly more understandable, but I doubt he really took guy that seriously.

And littlemanpoet voted for tgwbs for no discernible reason, as far as I can tell, at a time when he was second (I think) in the 'lynch list'.

I'll have to reiterate: I am not really supporting the guy who be short here; I am more interested in the behaviour of those who voted for him. I'd love to hear from you three. As yesterday showed, I am easily swayed! :D

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Thanks, mormegil, for the statistics.
Ok, here's something I gathered from Fea's posts.

Post #52: Fea joked that she'd like to lynch mormegil and TGWBS.

Post #73: Fea is suspicious of TQWBS.

Post #74: Fea submits a scheme of mormegil being one of the wolves.

Excluding Nilp, TQWBS and mormegil (and Durelin) are the ones to gather most votes.

At this point Fea gets killed and she is proven innocent.

Did the wolves hope that we'd rush to vote for either of those two just because Fea was "pure and innocent as the wind driven snow"? Or are morm and Guy really double-bluffing wolves?


ps. Elf-warrior, thanks for understanding. I try to be more careful from now on.

[mormegil]

Spawn please explain a little bit more what you are saying. I'm not fully understanding your conclusion. And I would like to be clear on it.

Did the wolves hope that we'd rush to vote for either of those two just because Fea was "pure and innocent as the wind driven snow"? Or are morm and Guy really double-bluffing wolves?

[Oddwen]

Eomer -

As to my vote yesterday, I voted for TheGuy because I believed at that time that he was most likely to be wolfish.
And no, I'm not hiding. I have nothing to hide.


This is a very long list, I just hope it's some use to someone.


Kath was appalled by his his bloodthirstiness. Spawn defended bloodthirstiness in general. (not the wanton kind)
Durelin jokingly (?) agrees with Guy about Fea's confusingness.
Morm picks Guy "at random" to lynch, saying it's a good a choice as any. (Eomer says that it's no good, as the choice wasn't made by a proven innocent, Spawn agrees with this...in a way)
Guy suggests wild and pretty useless plans, which confuses Wilwa, who later says her confusion was a joke.
Fea jokingly (?) says we should lynch Guy because he suggests lynching two famed troublemakers
Nilp mentions the lack of Guy's abacus, Guy responds saying he "forgot" and looks to a FeaNilpEomer trio, and says his abacus points to D-Spawn, and mentions voting for Elf Warrior "on a whim"
Kath says that she is suspicious of Guy for going after Fea and Eomer so tenaciously, Guy responds that lynching is a needed thing
Kath is upset with Guy's "whim", says there's no reasoning behind it
Wilwa mentions she has a bad feeling about Guy
Fea says she's suspicious of Guy
Guy is the #5th person on Morm's "somewhat suspicious" list
Oddwen voices her suspicions about Guy and his lack of abacus, votes for Guy
Guy responds saying the abacus is for random picks, his current random pic he is not suspicious of
Kitanna is slightly suspicious of Guy for not using his abacus
Guy votes for Nilp, saying "he'll confuse me anyway"
Eomer questions wether anyone really thinks Nilp is guilty as he voted for himself, Guy responds with "What better way to disguise himself"
Elf warrior says he's suspicious of Guy, and two others
Kitanna says she's suspicious of Guy and fea for the same silly and pointless reasons
TorEstel is "not happy" with the speed at which Guy followed Nilp's own vote
Elf Warrior votes for Guy
LMP explicitly states that Guy's wolvish, and votes for him
TorEstel says he has no other evidence against Guy other than the speed of his vote, but he doesn't like that - he then expresses more disappointment and votes for Oromin
Eomer votes for Oddwen, insinuating that she pushed the "lynch Guy train"
Guy is the first at Fea's death, and rejoices that the two most confusing villagers are out of the way
Morm mentions a suspicion about Guy, muses on a Kath/Guy team
Eomer wants to know what's so wolvish about Guy
Elf warrior explains that his vote for Guy was so he didn't want to "jump on the 'lynch Nilp' bandwagon"
Eomer wonders about Oddwen's role in the votes against Guy
Oddwen compiles a very long list
(Questions, comments, please do so.)

Lesse, who followed my vote -
Elf Warrior
LMP

Interesting to note that these two voted three minutes apart.

A note -
I know I did implicate Nilp a lot, and perhaps that was unwise as I believed him to be confusing, but not necessarily suspicious. I am somewhat relieved, however, that the two most loud-mouthed suspicious-acting people are no longer here to confuse us. I just wish they had been wolves, is all. :p
Hmm...loudmouths dead. Does this point towards quiet wolves?

I'll be back in a couple of hours.

Do not lead me, for I may not follow
Do not follow me, for I may not lead
Don't walk beside me either, just leave me alone

[The Only Real Estel]

Posted by Eomer:

For what it's worth, she claims to have suspected tgwbs in an early post

That's the problem, she suspected too many people for us to have much to go on. Fea suspected TGWBS, Lhuna, Oddwen, Saurreg, Morm, Eomer, & Kitanna. Of course she suspected some of those less and some of those more.

Because Fea would've been a prime suspect to at least direct suspicion on, if not lynch, I'm assuming she nailed a werewolf or two in there. Unfortunately, there are a few too many people to just go ahead & lynch everyone looking for the wolf.

I looked at the votes and the defending/accusing patterns of everyone and still have no real suspects, although I agree with morm that at the very least Kath deserves watching.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Spawn please explain a little bit more what you are saying.Sorry, I type faster than I think... or is it vice versa?

The wolves killed Fea and, of course, they knew that we'd analyze what she has said. Fea was suspicious of both mormegil and TGWBS and after Nilp, they were the two most suspicious people yesterday (according to voting).

There are two options in my theory.

Option number 1) Mormegil and (or) TGWBS are not guilty. The wolves hoped that we'd follow the suspicions of an innocent villager and we'd lynch morm or TGWBS today and the culprits would be safe at least until tomorrow. But we won't kill them because we realized what the wolves are up to.

Option number 2) Mormegil and (or) TGWBS are guilty. The wolves hoped that we'd go for option number one.

Am I making more sense now? I hope I am 'cause I don't know how I could explain this better.

[The Only Real Estel]

Option number 2) Mormegil and (or) TGWBS are guilty. The wolves hoped that we'd go for option number one

Interesting theory, Spawn, but I'm having trouble seeing the wolves taking such a bold risk as to incriminate two of their kind by killing Fea when they probably could've left her alone and relied on the misguideness of the innocent villagers to do the job for them.

Edit:

Eomer said:
And littlemanpoet voted for tgwbs for no discernible reason, as far as I can tell, at a time when he was second (I think) in the 'lynch list'.

I assumed that littlemanpoet was voting for tgwbs because of the way he jumped at Nilp's vote against himself. I felt like doing the same thing but decided it was probably better not to.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Interesting theory, Spawn, but I'm having trouble seeing the wolves taking such a bold risk as to incriminate two of their kind by killing Fea when they probably could've left her alone and relied on the misguideness of the innocent villagers to do the job for them.
Ok, I have another two options. ;)

Option number 1) The wolves are gamblers.

Option number 2) Only one of them is a wolf and the wolves are just using the other.

[Encaitare]

Oh, dear, somehow poor Fea had it coming. Ungoliant's theories are sound -- the trouble is, which one of them is true, or closer to the truth? Another motive the wolves might have had for killing Fea was that she was big on compiling information, nice and neat, for all of us to see. I would say that morm and TGWBS might merit some watching, but that's about it for now. I sincerely doubt that both of them would be wolves.

Edit: cross-posted with ungoliant.

[Durelin]

Okay, I quickly went through everyone's post up till the end of Day 1. Here's my little synopsis...I know I've missed some things, and hopefully I'll be going over things again. And of course I'll need to update my list to include today's posting soon (I'll wait until a few more people have posted....).

Howling Lhuna: has fun being a lhunatic...doesn't say much

Unfortunate Fea: well, lies... liked to give info, jumped on Nilp bandwagon

Nilp: gets himself lynched

TGWBS: jokingly accuses people, says gifted shouldn't reveal themselves yet, suggests everyone lynch everyone, plays with his abacus, first to vote for Nilp

Encai: doesn't post much, says in a later post that Morm has been at the center of attention and she finds that suspicious, says Nilp makes her 'uneasy'

Rubberneck Oddwen: posts very little, says nothing, votes for TGWBS randomly

morm: picks to randomly lynch TGWBS using crazy numbers, becomes suspicious of me, and votes for me after I vote for him

lmp: watches the stars, posts briefly, says nothing but 'watch out for Lhuna' because of the moon, then votes for TGWBS

Saurreg: doesn't post much, says nothing much of importance, votes for Nilp after TGWBS does, says he's suspicious of Nilp right off the bat

Elf-warrior: Starts out cautioning morm, first to mention cobbler, says he's suspicious of TGWBS, Dancing Spawn, and maybe Nilp

wilwarin: Starts with agreeing with EW's caution, suggests that maybe morm is a 'bit eager for bloodshed', is confused, has bad feeling about morm and TGWBS, votes for morm

Kitanna: backs up morm in post directly following Eomer's, says she'll pull someone randomly when she votes, but then agrees with Fea and votes for Nilp

Estel: emphasizes the first lynch is a shot in the dark, first to mention Oddwen (someone who hadn't posted yet at that point), talks about how the Seer should hint

Eomer: backs up morm concerning wilwarin's accusation, says Fea and Morm are at the top of his list, but says he really has no idea, and then 'lets them off the hook', didn't think Nilp was a wolf

Oromin: posts very little, says nothing

Kath: urges that gifted should not reveal themselves yet, has 'ill feelings' about TGWBS

dancing spawn: says it's never too early to 'throw death plans', gives statistics, says The Elf-warrior, wilwa, and mrm are the wolves (perhaps jokingly), suggests suspicion of wilwarin, then votes for me without previously mentioning me

Me: Posts a lot, doesn't say much, votes for her accuser knowing that Nilp's probably going to die, suggests that they do something about the Seer and such once but then doesn't say anything about it again...maybe because I didn't say much at all after that on the day, and there wasn't much to say, since my words concerning the Seer and other gifteds were basically ignored until people were suspicious of me.

Mainly I'm stating what's gone on (which ain't much, really), and have included a bit in defense of myself. Hope you don't mind... Also please note that the list is in no particular order...

[The Only Real Estel]

Posted by Durelin (among many other things):
first to mention Oddwen (someone who hadn't posted yet at that point)

True, but hopefully you know that I wasn't accusing her of anything...

Thanks for the posts, Durelin & Oddwen; it's good to be able to read sort've a synopsis of what has happened so far. I may post my own soon...after my 3:30 smoke, of course. ;)

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Durelin, TGWBS wasn't the first one to vote for Nilp. That was Nilp himself.

[littlemanpoet]

Please take note, fellow villagers, that I stood back and watched during the lynching of the innocent Nilpaurion. I told you but you would not listen. You who voted for him have no one to blame but yourselves. Why, oh why, does "lynch me" seem to always be obeyed? Will foolish, unenlightened blood-lusting villagers always be swayed by such harmless insanity? As you all now know, Nilpaurion was not in his right mind, or perhaps it would be better stated that he had two too many minds in one head, which is to say that indeed he was crazy, and maybe even wanted to die, but he was not a werewolf, and most of you who voted for him knew it. For shame.

You ask why the werewolves ended the life of Feanor of the Peredhil? Allow me to lend some thoughts to that. They viewed her as dangerous. So say the stars. She was right about something. They dared not leave her alive. So do review what she said, for she made good sense, save for the obligatory lies.

Why did I vote for Guy? Because he is not himself. Before the Moon did its silvery damage and changed him into a lycanthrope, so say the stars, he was always quite helpful and ready to analyze and strategize and plan in the most helpful ways. Yet yesterDay he went wild with accusations, as if he were playing at both life and death. And, he hopped on the innocent Nilpaurion. I still think he is clever and strategic, but this time I think it is so in terms of double bluff, for what villagers would suspect WereGuy of being so stewpid as to so obviously jump on an innocent lynch victim?

I am sorry that I had not the time to explain my vote better yesterDay. My normal means of communicating with all of you has been rendered useless. Let's just say that means that my voice doesn't work except at specific times. Those times are: 11 am until noon GMT, then for one single half hour roughly five hours after that, then for perhaps one hour more roughly four hours after that. And most of that time is spent playing catch-up as to what others have been saying, not to mention discerning the movements of the heavens.

I will make no further defense. My posts speak for themselves.

[Durelin]

Durelin, TGWBS wasn't the first one to vote for Nilp. That was Nilp himself.Woops...thanks, dancing spawn. Overlooked that, I did. :rolleyes: ;)

And TORE, that was merely a simple observation, as it was the first line in I believe your first post, so it stuck out to me in my scanning.

[the guy who be short]

Ah, suspicion. :D

Now, I voted for Nilp because, as I said, I thought it was a cunning bluff. Obviously I was wrong.

Yet yesterDay [TGWBS] went wild with accusations, as if he were playing at both life and death.First Day. :)

I'll be accusing some people later... Expect some substance soon, if not sooner, but if not that soon, then I'm afraid it will be more than 12 hours from now.

[littlemanpoet]

Me: Posts a lot, doesn't say much, votes for her accuser knowing that Nilp's probably going to die, suggests that they do something about the Seer and such once but then doesn't say anything about it again...maybe because I didn't say much at all after that on the day, and there wasn't much to say, since my words concerning the Seer and other gifteds were basically ignored until people were suspicious of me.

The reason why it doesn't work to try to develop consensus as to whom the Seer should dream of, whom the Ranger should protect, and whom the Hunter should hunt, is because there are no known innocents. We don't have someone whom we can implicitly trust to lead the way. As soon as one of the shirriffs is revealed, that all changes.

There are a few alternatives to the above, however. By perhaps Day Three, there could be consensus that one of the villagers must be innocent because of how s/he conducts her/imself; that individual could be appointed the leader in organizing the gifteds. However, if and when such leadership occurs, it has to be respected by a strong majority of the villagers so as to counteract influence and votes of the werewolves and cobbler. And any plans that are made, must be agreed to by enough villagers such that the werewolves and cobbler can't destabilize it in some way.

Admittedly, the above has not been garnered from the heavens, but perhaps you might see the merit in it anyway.

[littlemanpoet]

Expect some substance soon, if not sooner, but if not that soon, then I'm afraid it will be more than 12 hours from now.

That would be most welcome. I do hope that you are able to allay my suspicions of you. You had better do so, for although the stars are at times circumspect in their revelations, there are other ways to determine the truth of a matter. If you take my meaning.

[the guy who be short]

No, it's not a lament. ;)

So, Littlestargazingpoet, I have come with analysis! Behold!

Here is something that made me say GOSH (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=401740&postcount=58).

In this post, Fea mentions Nilp, Kath, Wilwa and "everybody else." She analysise Nilp according to his history, and jests with Kath about hers.

And then we have Wilwa, who Feanor deems innocent. Wilwa is the only person really picked out here, the only person she comments strongly on. I think the wolves, seeing Feanor pick out one person, thought that she was the Seer, so they killed her.

Wilwarin, I declare, is innocent. The wolves killed Feanor for picking Wilwa as an innocent in such a Seerish way, rather than for picking a wolf (though perhaps she did manage to name one or two; she named so many people that it's not unlikely).

Of course, there could be a little reverse psychology going on, with Wilwa as a wolf, but I like my theory enough to stick to it.

[The Only Real Estel]

And TORE, that was merely a simple observation, as it was the first line in I believe your first post, so it stuck out to me in my scanning

Just making sure. :p

Interesting theory, TGWBS, I'll chew on that whilst I am busy & hopefully I'll get a chance to summarize some of what's been going on/my thoughts so far.

[Kath]

Completely OOC

I realise I have made myself look rather suspicious what with my lack of a vote yesterday. My explanation is rooted in RL problems (namely the loss of a holiday) and there was no way of getting on the computer at the time. I did not know this before I previously left and so did not vote in my last post. I was only 9 minutes late having begged my parents to just give me 2 minutes but Firefoot had already closed voting. This is pretty much the same reason for my lack of being here so far toDay and I apologise. I should not have this problem again but if I do then I'll take myself out of the game to avoid any further confusion.

I have no time for further analyses of people right now but I will make sure I go over what has been said later on.

[Orominuialwen]

First of all, the reason for my lack of vote yesterDAY was a malfunctioning computer. It froze as I was posting and DAY was over by the time I got it to work again.

As far as I see it, the only reason the wolves got Fea was because she said something that scared them. She most likely named at least one, probably multiple wolves in her accusation and they were afraid that she would continue to point fingers at them. The only problem is that she accused enough people that it's very difficult to figure out who among her accusees is really a wolf.

[Kitanna]

I go off to work, I come back and this happens...poor dear Fea. And to be killed in such a gruesome manner.

And now there seems to be a lot of buzz around TGWBS, some around morm, and some around Kath.

[Kitanna]

I had some tiem to think during dinner tonight. And something struck me about TGWBS and who voted for him. It was Eomer's post about Oddwen, Elf-Warrior, and lmp, that first got me thinking. I believe at least one wolf is in that mix.

I think it might just be Oddwen. She was the first to vote for The Guy, and she did it early on to because she thought she wouldn't be around later. That's understandable. But here's the reason she gave for voting for TGWBS.
T. Guy, because as has been said, is not using an abacus. What this exactly means I have no idea, but it seems to have a mathematical ring to it - I'm assuming he doesn't use it because the Maths which Do Not Lie would point him out. And he couldn't fudge it, because well...Math does Not Lie.
So part of her reason for voting for him were because of the lack of abacus. He may not have used it on day one, but maybe on day two. And that might just point to Oddwen.
She also says: I am somewhat relieved, however, that the two most loud-mouthed suspicious-acting people are no longer here to confuse us.
Glad to see two innocent villagers dead? That can't possibly be normal.

But here's my theory on those who voted for TGWBS. It's an odd little theory, but I think it makes sense.
Three people voted for The Guy. Three being the number of wolves. Of course the wolves couldn't possibly be stupid enough to all three vote for the same person. No, no I think the first two voters may be wolves and they hoped to gain a third vote. Which they did.
I feel Oddwen is most likely a wolf.
Elf-Warrior might be a wolf, I think he's a little sketchy. I'm less certain about him.
lmp I believe is innocent.

I still have some bad feeling about TGWBS, but I'm more worried about Oddwen.

[Oddwen]

Quote:
I am somewhat relieved, however, that the two most loud-mouthed suspicious-acting people are no longer here to confuse us.
Glad to see two innocent villagers dead? That can't possibly be normal.
I'm not glad that two innocents are dead. I am slightly relieved that two loudmouths are dead. I'm glad that Fea was loudmouthed, because now her posts are above Werewolfy suspicion. Nilp however, I can't really find anything of substance.


So part of her reason for voting for him were because of the lack of abacus. He may not have used it on day one, but maybe on day two. And that might just point to Oddwen.
Then again, it might pick you. Whatever happens likely means little. As he himself pointed out, the Abacus is more for a random pick, not for the actual deductions. I was wrong in suspecting him for that.
And now it appears that he's been pulling the "old deaf man gets a hearing aid but doesn't tell his relatives and changes his will eighty times" deal. A bluff. I blush, even if it ain't true.


I have to look at the two who "threw away" their votes when Nilp's death was sure.

TorEstel for Oromin, and Eomer for Oddwen. Could bear watching, though I'm leaning towards them being innocent in origin.

I'm going to look at Fea's posts again, expect more from me either soon or in the morning.

[mormegil]

Here is my outline of thoughts

TGWBS--Too eager to jump on killing Nilp. Though I agree it is good to have both of the most enigmatic players gone. While I don't like to see innocents dead, if I had to pick some that's a good choice. I can see one side of TGWBS saying "Nilp wants to die anyway and he's confusing so at least we won't get a gifted" but it could be very wolvish as well. However, something is not sitting right with him to me. I'll keep a close eye on him though probably won't vote him. Additionally thought that the wolves killed Fea because they suspected her to be the seer. I don't see how anybody could think Fea the seer by declaring that. Not even Fea would be bold enough to try that one.

Saurreg--Not too much to gone with but not over suspicious at this point. Probably innocent.

Kitanna--Gut feeling and reaction to her posts may be guilty but I'm just not sure yet. I'm leaving her in my neutral category until further evidence either way.

Encaitare--Red flags are going all over with her. But I have been wrong before. Her behavior just isn't sitting right with me. I may vote her.

Oddwen--Honestly I've gone back and forth on her just like dancing spawn. One minute I'm sure she guilty the next I think she's innocent. I'd like to know what others think.

Elf-warrior--Either a wolf or misguided innocent. He's in my suspect category but I'll probably not vote for him today. Give him a chance to prove his possible innocence.

LMP--It's always dangerous to defend somebody but I believe him to be innocent.

Durelin--Still highly suspect. Playing it very smoothly and cool which makes me suspicious. Not offering too much by way of opinion wants to keep the spotlight off her and yet keep active. May vote her again.

Wilwarin--I'm not as convinced of her innocence as was Fea. A bold wolf could kill somebody that thought her innocent and hope that somebody, another wolf perhaps, points out that no wolf would do that. This would implicate a TGWBS/Wilwarin team. Unless, of course, TGWBS is the victim of her ploy which I don't think is the case. I may vote her too.

Dancing Spawn--See Oddwen

TORE--Just like LMP I believe his behavior is consistent with an innocent man.

Eomer--A bit of a dandy the way he prances around. Possibly the Scarlet Pimpernel but not guilty.

Kath--Her RL explination makes sense (ah the joys of being an adult and not having to ask your parents, but rather being one :p ) but it could easily be an excuse given to cover her furry tracks. Possibly guilty category for you.

Lhuna and Oromin--Not enough to go on so currently neutral but will move to guilty if I don't hear something of substance very soon.

[Saurreg]

Please take note, fellow villagers, that I stood back and watched during the lynching of the innocent Nilpaurion. I told you but you would not listen. You who voted for him have no one to blame but yourselves. Why, oh why, does "lynch me" seem to always be obeyed? Will foolish, unenlightened blood-lusting villagers always be swayed by such harmless insanity? As you all now know, Nilpaurion was not in his right mind, or perhaps it would be better stated that he had two too many minds in one head, which is to say that indeed he was crazy, and maybe even wanted to die, but he was not a werewolf, and most of you who voted for him knew it. For shame.

Yarrrhhh, suuuuurrree. Blam it un dah mob den. But yer wun ketch d'ish ol' koot covarin' 'is backside und finding excooses. Me 'll put it on rekord dat me voted fur dat no good wulf breedah und me iez proud of it! 'e was up to no good from dah start und his replies were kunfusing to say dah lest. 'e either wus a wulf fishin' fur a big one ur he was just another irritating, no sense of unity villager out to sabo und hinder ou' kollectif efforts. Good riddance!

Me cannae help but agree dat dah murdah of lit' Fea served lit' purpose. Dah fact wus she pointed at too many folks yes'tday to find time or klause to target at one single villager to haf been a threat to dah wulves. Had seeh singled out one of us from dee start ur somewhere from dah middle wif dah tena'sity of a pitbull, den we would haf somethung to go about wif. But alas, seeh lived 'er short life in a whirlwind of trooths und lies so mixed up dat dis'h ol' man cannae tell whether seeh was serious or not...

Too mana people in dis'h village me tell yer. Und if anyone of yer tells me yer can pinpoint to a wulf wif certainty, then yer a lying stuffed comodore or a wulf yerself. Dah wulves gut lotsa hiding places in sucha huge crowd, 'ill be diffkult to root 'em out.

Fur now, 'ill keep me eyes out un dah death header Durelin und Wil. Dah flower gurl's pretty active yes'tday compared to others und me doubt 'ere 'll be a dif today. Me always sez, loook out fur 'ose who appear to be extra busy, extra talkative und of curz appearing veri ani... ana... loooking into things! Pay close attention to how true her words are, me no trust her.

Und Wil, she be pretty careless about Fea's death. Whistling dis'h und dat. A tad gleeful?

[Encaitare]

Encaitare--Red flags are going all over with her. But I have been wrong before. Her behavior just isn't sitting right with me. I may vote her.

I hope this does not prove self-incriminating, but I am forced to wonder what behavior of mine is so suspicious that you're considering voting for me, morm.

Nothing I have said or done is worse than anything that others have said or done. I have made my observations and cast my vote. I'm starting to think that you are turning on me because I have mentioned being suspicious of you.

[The Only Real Estel]

Posted by Kitanna about Oddwen:
Glad to see two innocent villagers dead? That can't possibly be normal.

This would be disturbing but I see it from this point of view: You can't possibly tell me that you're not glad to see that there's only two 'ordinary' villagers dead & not our hunter & our seer or something like that. That's what I'm assuming Oddwen was talking about.

Personally, I'm a little suspicious of Oromin and Lhuna for their lack of posting. I know Lhuna is in a different time zone, but she's only posted once (by my count) & Oromin has only posted twice. Not that I can declare them wolves for this, but at the very least I'm watching them.

Here's a quick synopsis of things that have happened that I deem important (on the first day only, I'm afraid) & my suspicions (which I really have none of right now):

Dancing Spawn - jokes about lynching Saurreg because of his difficult-to-understand posts, thinks the wolves might be The Elf-warrior, wilwa and mormegil (#82), begans to voice suspicious of Wilwa (#87), partially pardons Elf-warrior & wilwa (#109), doesn't want to vote for Nilp for the same reasons as me (still #109), votes for Durelin (#115)

Durelin - suggests that we talk over who to Guard & who to dream about (#78), feels like voting for Morm because he is suspicious of her (#84), votes for Morm (#93)

Elf-warrior - Defends Fea & Lhuna, suspicious of Dancing Spawn, TGWBS, & Nilp (#101), votes for TGWBS (#105)

Encai - Suspicious of Nilp & a little bit suspicious of Morm, put some stock in Fea's morm/emoer/kitanna theory (#100), votes for Nilp (#119)

Eomer - Defends Morm (#9), has a 'feeling' that Nilp is innocent (#71), wonders why Morm has included Elf-Warrior in his list is slightly troubled by Fea (#83), is somewhat suspicious of Wilwa (#88), concludes that he has found Wilwa not likely to be a wolf (#94), Excuses Fea (#98), & Morm at least until later (#99), wonders if Durelin's suggestion of the seer & guardian being discussed is an innocent one or not (would a wolf bring this out against a fellow wolf? probably not) (#114), thinks Durelin might get herself lynched by continuing to act 'this way' but suspects that she is probably innocent, votes for Oddwen (#122)

Feanor - Minds games as usual, advices to watch out for Nilp hiding behind his normal self & suspects that Wilwa is innocent (#58), suspicious of TGWBS, Theory1- Lhuna/Oddwen/Saurreg as wolves, trying to take out innocent Nilp. LMP is Seer in this scenario. Role thinly veiled with astrology talk. Perhaps morm as Seer? Theory2- Mormegil/Eomer/Kitanna as wolves. They all defend Mormegil (knowing that defending would be stupid for wolves, they all did it to throw us off the track- #74) suggests lynching Lhuna & Saurreg (Saurreg jokingly) (still #74), votes for Nilp despite the fact that she 'doesn't think he's guilty' because she 'would hate for him to win the game as a wolf behind the cloak of normalacy' (that's more or less what she said :p) (#95)

Kath - Told TGWBS that it's to early to be throwing death plans around (#19), defended Fea, goes after TGWBS again for jokes & going after Elf-Warrior on a 'whim' (#68 & #70), does not vote

Kitanna - Defends Morm (#10), jokes about voting for Saurreg, suspicious of TGWBS & a little worried about Fea (#81), suspicious of Fea & Guy for 'silly & pointless reasons', suspicious of morm, thinks Nilp is probably innocent, says Wilwa bears watching, votes for Nilp (#102)

Lhuna - Howls like a wolf? does not vote...

LMP - Seems to half-suspect Lhuna (#33), talks about 'star charts' and how 'reliable' they are (#66), wonders why people who don't suspect Nilp vote for him (here, here!), says that Eomer, Morm, Wilwa, Spawn, and Saurreg are probably innocent & that Saurreg is the sherrif (unlikely I think), finds Fea likely innocent, votes for TGWBS (#107)

Mormegil - Proposes random method (#32), defends Fea, suspects Saurreg, suspection lists- 1.Durelin 2.Elf-warrior 3.Encai 4.Saurreg & 1.Kath 2.Dancing Spawn 3.Oddwen 4.Oromin 5.TGWBS (#75), says Durelin & Elf-warrior are acting somewhat the same but he's more suspicious of Durelin (#97), votes for Durelin insisting that it's NOT a knee-jerk reaction (#113)

Nilp - Says he's "NOT THE COBBLER", votes for himself,


Oddwen - accuses Nilp, suspicious of Wilwa & TGWBS, somewhat suspicious of Morm & Saurreg (#77)


Oromin - not much to go on, does not vote


Saurreg - After Nilp (#55), votes for Nilp (#90)


TGWBS - Jokingly suggests mass-suicide, then jokingly accuses most of the people in the village (#44), votes for Nilp because he's 'going to confuse me anyway' & he wants to get his lynch rate up, suggests Nilp is hiding behind his 'normal way' of doing things (#91)


TORE - My innocence is for others to decide, though I will say truthfully that I am not the seer (if you couldn't tell that from my complete lack of suspicions!)

Wilwa - Quick to jump on Morm for being 'bloodthirsty' (#8), 'bad feeling' about Morm & TGWBS (#72), votes for Mormegil (#112)


Edit:

And also:
Posted by Elf-Warrior:

I doubt Fea or Lhuna are wolves. Fea seems to be making sense. Lhuna howled like a wolf, you say? Well, where I come from there's a saying, "Live with wolves howl like a wolf."

That sounds mostly like a defense of Lhuna, & an interesteing sounding one at that. Almost as if he's making a saying up to support Lhuna because there's no other evidence. Right now I'm thinking that either Elf-Warrior & Lhuna are wolves (unlikely), Elf-Warrior is the seer & used his dream on Lhuna (unlikely), or perhaps Elf-Warrior & Lhuna are our Sherrifs. I'd be curious on everyone else's thoughts on that...

[Kitanna]

This would be disturbing but I see it from this point of view: You can't possibly tell me that you're not glad to see that there's only two 'ordinary' villagers dead & not our hunter & our seer or something like that. That's what I'm assuming Oddwen was talking about.
I suppose, but at first glance her statement did look rather heartless. But I guess I can't really hold that against her.

Right now I'm thinking that either Elf-Warrior & Lhuna are wolves (unlikely), Elf-Warrior is the seer & used his dream on Lhuna (unlikely), or perhaps Elf-Warrior & Lhuna are our Sherrifs. I'd be curious on everyone else's thoughts on that...
I'm leaning toward Elf-Warrior being a wolf more then a Sherrif, but I'm not really all that sure. I'm flip-flopping on him. I'm not so sure about Lhuna. Her post just made me think she was a harmless lunatic. I'd like to see what she has to say today.

[The Elf-warrior]

I don't really have time to comment and it's late. I probably won't be on again for the rest of the DAY. Thus I'll vote now for ++Durelin. Her plan for having a consensus about who the Seer should dream about makes it hard for the Seer to reveal that person's true identity without blowing his or her cover. Which is exactly what a wolf would want.


"Live with wolves howl like a wolf."
Almost as if he's making a saying up to support Lhuna because there's no other evidence.
That is an actual saying from the land of my ancestors. ;) *Howls at the waning gibbous moon.*

I would like to clarify the reasons for my vote yesterday. I didn't realize that The guy was just joking about Feanor. It seemed to me that he was calling for the death of likely innocents. Nobody else seemed very suspicious, and I decided against bandwagoning against Nilp, so I voted for him.

[mormegil]

Okay I've reread everything all at once looking for behavior patterns/changes that are characteristic of wolves. I have some findings that I would like to share. Now I feel confident in my findings and I'm very certain that I am at least 50% correct.

TGWBS--We ought not accuse him of being a blacksmith anylonger. His shop is a cobblers shop. He could be a wolf playing the cobbler but I think he's the cobbler. No sense in killing him until we don't know a wolf. But this would explain his weird and somewhat suspicious behavior. He's being a bit erradic

Durelin--I feel most confident that she is a wolf. In post 12, 15, and 93 (bottom line on 93) she attempts to distance herself from wolves. A bit too obvious if you ask me. In post 78 she wants the gifted to essentially expose themselves but gives up when no interest is shown. Post 84 basically says she'll vote for me because of a knee-jerk reaction and in post 93 she tries to quell that idea and say I'm a random pick. I strongly believe her to be a wolf.

Encaitare--Post 54 a wolfish tatic. Attempts to disassociate even being familar with Firefoot's name. A subtle attempt at showing innocence. Post 100 suggests that Eomer/Mormegil/Kitanna are the wolf trio. I know I am innocent, am fairly certain that Eomer is innocent, and Kitanna is neutral right now. When somebody is suspicious of three people I believe innocent it is an indicator to me. Post 159 her reaction to my accusation is telling. I believe as innocents we should be willing to die if needed. Those who only defend themselves appear lupine to me and this is what Encai has been doing. I'm somewhere around 60% certain she is a wolf too.

Now my third wolf is tricky and I have little certainty but I would say it's either Oddwen or Wilwarin. But my certainty is nominal at best.

Spawn--In rereading I am more convinced of her innocence than I was previously and more convinced of Oddwen's guilt.

There is my list. Unless something changes I probably will vote Durelin. Although I would like to hear much more from Oromin and Lhuna.

PS this village is a bit too blood thirsty...not even letting an executioner do his proper job. Well I'll have you know I've sharpened my axe and hope it finds Durelin's and Encai's neck soon.

Edit: Cross post with Elf-warrior but it looks like I have some support for Durelin.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

As far as I see it, the only reason the wolves got Fea was because she said something that scared them.
Want to hear two options more? :p

Option number 1) The wolves thought Fea's the Seer (as TGWBS suggested)

Option number 2) Fea's suspicions were way off the track and the wolves killed her so that nothing could point them out.

I'm still suspicious of Durelin, too.

I'll post more later.

[Lhunardawen]

*laughs at the goings-on*

What drove (some of) you to fall for Nilp's act, swallowing hook, line, and sinker? He was obviously innocent, at least to me.

And killing Fea...I do think it is a strange strategy the werewolves have come up with. Who would think of eliminating someone who gathers suspicion? But then again, maybe she was too confusing that the werewolves themselves were nearly confused with their own identities.

Werewolf 1: Look, Fea's suspicious.
Werewolf 2: Uh-huh. The villagers might think she's a werewolf.
Werewolf 3: Right. Let's kill her.

*laughs like a Lhunatic* But for your info, I was fairly certain of her innocence.

Before I begin my litany, I would like to explain the difference between suspicion and accusation. Suspicion says, "I think ____ is a werewolf. But I'm not really sure." Accusation says, "____ is, no doubt, a werewolf. Lynch him/her!" Got that? *laughs yet again*

Now, the usual.

Enca, lmp, Kitanna, Saurreg, Oromin, Kath, spawn, Estel, and morm are far from the arrows as of now. But everyone should be carefully watched in times like this. Notice that I did not associate the word innocent with them.

tgwbs is acting rather wolfish to me. But he is too wolfish. He might be a cobbler. If he is, he's doing a not-too-good job of hiding it, which, I believe, is actually the point of the role. Worth watching for a few more Days.

Eomer sees no reason to suspect tgwbs, and is very vocal about it. That somehow causes me to suspect him. I don't know why. Should I know why?

The E-w *laughs at the funny nickname* somehow managed to latch himself onto me by defending me. That leads me to think that he might be a werewolf trying to associate himself with an innocent, because I, as Kitanna said, am a harmless Lhunatic.

Durelin is quite noisy, but not exactly a loudmouth. That gathers questioning looks like my stuffed harp seal gathers dust.

Oddwen manages to dodge suspicions.

wilwa is either a confused newbie (I can identify with that) or a confused werewolf.

Lhuna is suspected due to too little substance and too much howling, and is about to howl for the sake of tradition.

*howls like a...wolf???*

At this time I am most likely to vote for Durelin for reasons already said by others. In fact, I might type her name in bold with two plus signs any time soon.

*howls again, for uniformity's sake*

[Lhunardawen]

++DURELIN

I am rarely, if ever, one to repeat what has been said. Take that how you will.

*hoooowls*

[littlemanpoet]

Confustigate it!

I was thinking that Morm was making some good sense, and thought I might vote for Durelin, but now it would be bandwagoning, and I hate bandwagoning!

Allow me to consult my star records and see what I may determine thereby.

Currently, the heavens seem to suggest that the following are innocent:
Kath, Morm, Saur, Estel. Not a long list.

The following seem neutral to me: Spawn, Eomer, Oddwen, Oromin, Wilwa.

The following seem wolfish: Durelin, Elf-warrior, Kitanna, Guy.

This was just from reading over posts in general, and concentrating on some of the more analytical posts. I grant you that this is far from scientific, but the skies have been rather cloudy these last few nights, truth be told. :p

[Kath]

Ok a look over what has been going on:

Nilp's death was unfortunate but at least he was not a gifted innocent seems to be the major consensus here, whereas as to me the thought should be, oh no we've killed an innocent, lets look at who voted for him! I can't believe that everyone who voted for him believed that he was a wolf, his act was just too obvious.

So:
Nilp - voted for himself but since we know he is an innocent we'll just have to agree that he's insane :D

TGWBS - voted for Nilp because he wanted the confusing loudmouths out of the way. As a wolf the death of Fea would fit with this way of thinking except that this might be just a little over obvious. So either this is a double bluff or he's hoping the obviousness will keep him from suspicion.

Saurreg - we have heard little from him but in his posts I can find nothing to suggest being a wolf. More will be needed to clear him but I have no suspicions towards him at the moment.

Fea - we know is innocent.

Kitanna - to be honest I think she voted for Nilp because he was ahead in votes and she didn't want to go for anyone else, perhaps for fear that if Nilp was a wolf she would be suspected for not voting for him.

Encai - I am not sure of her at all. I will watch her quite closely and make a decision later.

As for people who did not vote for Nilp:
Oddwen - again not sure on her, will need more posts.
Elf-warrior - I don't really suspect.
LMP - confuses me.
Mormegil - for once I think him innocent.
Durelin - seems to be the new suspect of the village and I can't say that I disagree.
Wilwarin - no idea, but probably innocent.
Dancing Spawn - I think likely to be innocent.
Oromin - maybe a wolf.
TORE - no t sure.
Eomer - I should say innocent.
Lhuna - the howling might be a Fea like idea, staying in the open to avoid suspicion.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

The following seem wolfish: Durelin, Elf-warrior, Kitanna, Guy.
I agree. They are exactly the four most suspicious person to me, too. Mormegil may be right about TGWBS being the cobbler, though.

I'm beginning to find Kitanna even more suspicious than Durelin. Kitanna doesn't post very much and it seems that she's just being a fly on the wall. A fly with sharp claws, mind you.

About her voting for Nilp:

Kitanna disengaged herself from all responsibility and possible consequences by saying that her vote is random. When it'd turn out that Nilp's innocent, she could just say:"Bad luck, eh? But don't blame me, I could have voted for anybody."

She jumped on the Nilp bandwagon although, according to her own words, she thought that he wasn't guilty!

When Kitanna voted, she said: It seems that Nilp is headed for the ax anyway. At his point four people out of eighteen had voted for Nilp and there were still twelve votes yet to cast.

Kitanna was suspicious of TGWBS for "silly and pointless reasons". Hmm... Later in her post #155 Kitanna defends TGWBS quite much but in the end she says that she's somewhat suspicious of him, anyway. To me this seems like an obligatory move:"I'm suspicious of one of my wolf colleagues so no-one's going to catch us."

[the guy who be short]

Cobbler? Moi? Nay, 'tis clearly the Lhunatic, in my mind anyway.

More thoughts a little later, plus an analysis of Feanor's later posts.

Please explain any "erraticism" you see in my posts and thoughts... *coughmormegilcough* :p

[mormegil]

Please explain any "erraticism" you see in my posts and thoughts... *coughmormegilcough* :p

You see I don't think it needs any explaining. The consensus believe that you are acting rather odd. Therefore I am not overly concerned with explaining in detail all of you oddities. Rather I would say that you should not be our prime target but would always be a good secondary target. Perhaps we can change his ways and bring him back into the mainstream of the village by finding some way for him to enjoy life. :p

[Encaitare]

Encaitare--Post 54 a wolfish tatic. Attempts to disassociate even being familar with Firefoot's name. A subtle attempt at showing innocence.

That was an in-character comment -- if you recall the "cast list," my title in the village is the wandering gypsy who's happened to be passing through.

Post 100 suggests that Eomer/Mormegil/Kitanna are the wolf trio. I know I am innocent, am fairly certain that Eomer is innocent, and Kitanna is neutral right now. When somebody is suspicious of three people I believe innocent it is an indicator to me.

That was early in the game, and at the time it seemed logical to me. Remember that I was not the one who devised that theory, but the late Feanor.

Post 159 her reaction to my accusation is telling. I believe as innocents we should be willing to die if needed. Those who only defend themselves appear lupine to me and this is what Encai has been doing. I'm somewhere around 60% certain she is a wolf too.

I act this way because every small hint of defending or accusing someone is blown out of proportion in this game. In the last game I played I defended someone and everyone got susupicious and thought we were in cahoots when we were, in fact, not. Besides, if I were a wolf I would obviously be trying to defend my fellow wolves.

[mormegil]

Double post but different subjects. Now having Lhuna post again makes me wonder about her. I don't believe her to be a wolf but her behavior is one that is consistent with a wolf trying to hide in the open. That could make her the cobbler or a wolf though I believe her to be neither. I believe simply that she is touched in the head and we villagers should find her some professional help.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I had forgotten all about the cobbler. And I have no real idea how to incorporate him/her into my thoughts. :confused:

Actually, I'm ever so slightly worried. DAY 2 hasn't been as helpful as I thought it might be. I think we'll have one more round of 'voting in the dark'.

It seems Durelin is getting a mighty share of attention. Her behaviour is a little bit suspicious but I have a feeling she might be only a confused lass trying to help.

My thoughts are still very much focused on Oddwen, Elf-Warrior and littlemanpoet. I expect one of those three to be a wolf, because of their voting for tgwbs.

I am also thinking that the wolves would have had no need to vote for Nilp (whom they knew to be innocent) because Nilp would have received votes anyhow. So why would the wolves incriminate themselves by adding their names to a doomed innocent? Any thoughts on that? It might suggest that the others who voted for Nilp are also innocent (or it might show that the wolves aren't thinking too deeply on this matter, unlike me :D ).

The no-voters trouble me slightly too. Voting makes this, um, event more interesting. Kath and Oromin have explained their RL difficulties. However, Lhuna decided not to bother voting because she 'had nothing to go on'. Well, no-one else had anything much to go on either. In fact, you had barely anything to go on in your voting today but you still did it. No voting seems like a quiet wolf strategy more than anything. There was another no-voter but I can't remember who it was; I'll go and look it up now and then EDIT this post.

So.....stay tuned!

EDIT: No! :D Everyone else voted. So, though it crushes me to say this, Lhunardawen is near the top of my list.

[the guy who be short]

So... I am expected to defend myself, and not informed of the accusations? :eek: Harsh village...

*Continues to "be odd" as he wills*

[The Only Real Estel]

Posted by lmp:
I was thinking that Morm was making some good sense, and thought I might vote for Durelin, but now it would be bandwagoning, and I hate bandwagoning!

Well, there is a huge difference between bandwagoning even though you suspect the villager to be innocent & adding your vote to the tally of a villager you suspect to be guilty.

Posted by Morm (on tgwbs:
His shop is a cobblers shop. He could be a wolf playing the cobbler but I think he's the cobbler. No sense in killing him until we don't know a wolf. But this would explain his weird and somewhat suspicious behavior. He's being a bit erradic

Posted by Lhuna (on tgwbs:
He might be a cobbler. If he is, he's doing a not-too-good job of hiding it, which, I believe, is actually the point of the role

That is a possibility, although I don't agree with Lhuna's summary of the role. I think the cobbler is supposed to be doing his best to confuse us, not just hide - remember wolves + cobbler= number of villagers does not mean the wolves win. And tgwbs is definitly not trying to hide very hard...

Posted by Morm:
Now having Lhuna post again makes me wonder about her. I don't believe her to be a wolf but her behavior is one that is consistent with a wolf trying to hide in the open. That could make her the cobbler or a wolf though I believe her to be neither

Lhuna I almost suspect more of being the cobbler than tgwbs or anyone else right now. She posts, not often enough to give us much to go on but she does post so that we won't lynch her on account of not posting. She acts as suspicious as she can without being to suspicious. This leaves us in the same spot as Nilp did, is she acting wolfish or is she wolfish? I would think this would be exactly what the cobbler would want us to be doing - having half of our attention on herself and half of our attention on the wolves.

While I am suspicious of Durelin it's more of a watch-&-see suspicion, I'm inclined to think like Eomer, she may be only a confused lass trying to help.

Kitanna is also on my watch list, along with morm, tgwbs, lmp, & Oromin. I'm not sure yet who I will vote for, like Eomer says, this round has not been as helpful as I was hoping. :(

[mormegil]

So... I am expected to defend myself, and not informed of the accusations? :eek: Harsh village...

*Continues to "be odd" as he wills*

There's nothing to defend as of yet. I am not voting for you and I don't suspect you will be lynched today. Therefore your future behavior will speak more to me than any defense could.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Just a side note: Oromin has posted twice and we have many other silent residents in our Village, too. It would be really nice to hear some of their thoughts before I cast my vote.

[wilwarin538]

Durelin--I feel most confident that she is a wolf. In post 12, 15, and 93 (bottom line on 93) she attempts to distance herself from wolves. A bit too obvious if you ask me. In post 78 she wants the gifted to essentially expose themselves but gives up when no interest is shown. Post 84 basically says she'll vote for me because of a knee-jerk reaction and in post 93 she tries to quell that idea and say I'm a random pick. I strongly believe her to be a wolf.

I suppose that makes sense. I might possibly vote for Durelin. I'll need to hear more before I can be really sure about anyone.

[mormegil]

Just a side note: Oromin has posted twice and we have many other silent residents in our Village, too. It would be really nice to hear some of their thoughts before I cast my vote.

I agree that I would like to hear from Oromin, Lhuna and Oddwen more. Oddwen has only posted 4 times I believe and I hate to formulate death plans based solely on that.

However I have decided to vote.

++Durelin

While I cannot gaurantee my certainty, I do feel fairly confident that she's a wolf. If that is proven to be true it should be well known that I am innocent. If that's the case I would ask the seer to dream of Encai if you haven't already. Knowing TGWBS and Lhuna's identity would make things less confusing as well. However if I am proven innocent then I would ask that the Guardian consider protecting me tonight. I may be wrong in my vote, however I truly don't believe that I am.

LMP I agree with TORE that it's not bandwagonning if you truly believe the person to be guilty.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It looks like Durelin will die today. Fair enough, there are other villagers I'd rather keep alive because I am more certain of their innocence. Estel, for example, seems highly likely to be innocent. However, there are others I'd rather see go before Durelin.

I think I will be voting for Oddwen again, though it seems like I have no support for this plan. She doesn't seem right at all to me. But I can afford to hold my vote for just now.

(Morm, you are right about access to the discussion. I have the luxury of being able to speak pretty much whenever I want to! :D )

[Durelin]

Oh dear...no wonder I didn't get a good sleep during my nap...

I've told you repeatedly who I am in my posts. You just have yet to notice.

I can only say that I am not a wolf...and to start at the beginning.

I've spelled it out for you several times....

;)

Post 84 basically says she'll vote for me because of a knee-jerk reaction and in post 93 she tries to quell that idea and say I'm a random pick. I strongly believe her to be a wolf.
Is that what I did? Wow, reading a lot into that, aren't you, Morm? I had no idea who to vote for...thus I picked you because you picked on me. :p

And, my absences are due to where I live...which is unfortunate. I'm here at the start of discussion, when there's no way to pinpoint if anyone's *suspicious*...and so I wait until I return after my sleep (one needs there sleep to think straight, too...), and then I look. Besides, what's wrong with not pointing at people and saying they're guilty when it's only Day 2? I'm horribly afraid of lynching yet another innocent person. It'll do too much harm to our numbers.

I guess I have been drawing attention to myself. Wasn't what I meant to do, but...what's done is done.

But your focus on me is a waste of time, I'm afraid. You're going to bring the innocent numbers down even more by lynching me. You just have to trust me.

[mormegil]

Oh dear...no wonder I didn't get a good sleep during my nap...

I've told you repeatedly who I am in my posts. You just have yet to notice.

I can only say that I am not a wolf...and to start at the beginning.

I've spelled it out for you several times....

;)

A claim and either seership or the guardian. A bold move. It could either be a werewolf attempting to not get us to vote for her for a gifted saying you are idiots wake up and don't vote for me. I'm truthfully a bit concerned about this now. My vote is cast but I would like others to evaluate. Gifted villagers, at times, have a tendency to act strangely suspicious. I hope this is not the case.

[the guy who be short]

If I am not told which part of my behaviour falls under the category of "erratic," what's the point of mentioning it? Other than possibly making me suspect you.

Anywho, quickly popping in. Durelin and Wilwarin are innocent, as is Eomer most likely. I'm not yet sure of any wolves, but I feel I'm closing in on them.

I would like to direct attention to Kath. She says she is suspicious of me, starting the ball rolling so to speak, yet doesn't vote (for whatever reason).

I'll also need to inspect others, of course, but I have a couple of hours to do so.

[Durelin]

Gifted villagers, at times, have a tendency to act strangely suspicious.
I must say I wouldn't be as loud if I wasn't innocent...I'd be trying to keep under the radar as much as possible. Or at least, a little more quiet than I have been. ;)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ok, I've re-read the thread. Unless there's a dramatic swing, Durelin will die today. She has votes and it looks like there will be more coming. Plus, there is no real concensus as to who else is a likely wolf.

Like I say I still think Durelin's a difficult pick. My heart tells me that she's a bit of a bumbling innocent who has been made a scapegoat after some pretty tame posts. Regardless, there are other villagers who I deem more likely to be innocent, thus I'm not too upset about trying Durelin. That Seer comment is still making me think.

One villager I've not really spoken about yet is Kitanna. She is probably somewhere in the middle of my list. She is attracting suspicion because she voted for Nilp despite believing that he was probably innocent. I can see why some (notably littlemanpoet) are concerned about this. She's probably about level with Durelin in my book. I don't want to vote for either.

Another interesting thing about Kitanna is that she is the only villager so far (I think) who seems to be listening to me about Oddwen. Does everyone else think I'm crazy? Hopefully I can get her and some others to take action in this direction tomorrow.

I really think it is worthwhile tapping into the group of people who voted for tgwbs on DAY 1. I'm sure there is a wolf in among them. Oddwen is still my first pick.

[Kitanna]

It looks like TGWBS and Durelin are getting the most attention. And I find it hard for me to vote for either. Though I feel they might be wolves, a bigger part of me is saying they are gifted and should be spared. If I were more certain about them I might cast my vote, but I can't do that when I feel one may be the seer or a shiriff or something.

Earlier I mentioned Oddwen, Elf-Warrior, and lmp as suspects.
I'm pretty sure lmp is innocent. I keep flip-flopping on Elf-Warrior.
So I think I will cast my vote for Oddwen.

Yesterday I did not think much of her, but then as I went back today I found my suspicions rising. It wasn't so much that she voted for TGWBS, but that two others followed her. Which is also why I'm watching Elf-Warrior closer.

++ Oddwen

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ah! There's Kitanna, thinking along the same lines as me, I see. Why do I predict a new style of lynch mob tomorrow. :rolleyes: ;)

If I ever find out that Durelin is a wolf then I will be kicking myself very hard, but I just have a feeling that she's not one of the furry beasts, and like Morm mentioned, she is even boldly suggesting that she is a gifted villager. In that case, she won't last very long anyway! :p

Let me cause some trouble and get the village to really think about what they're doing.

++ODDWEN

Take it from here, me cherubs.

[Durelin]

I think Spawn's been jumping at everyone else's words of me a bit too much. It was very strange the first time she voted for me, as she had not previously mentioned me at all. Still, that was a Day 1 vote, and thus...well, random.

And concerning my suggestion for the Seer and Guardian plan thing... It is risky, giving any hints as to who the gifted villagers are, but, in the end, it saves lives. Rather than us blindly lynching random people, we're taking a more cautious approach that can tell us more about who might be a wolf and who is probably innocent. It lowers the likelyhood of us lynching an innocent person, especially as the Days go by and we have more to go on. And thus, even if the wolves figure out who is a gifted villager...rather than both an innocent and even a giften villager getting lynched and getting killed by the wolves, there is only one innocent life taken. For the latter is a garuntee, whether they're gifted or not.

It's not at all fool proof, but it's something. And that's what I think we need.

Oddwen seems to be getting a lot of attention, too. Her lack of posting, her voting habits, and what others have pointed out about her makes me think. She could be like me, pinpointed for blame that she doesn't share, but... I don't like people who hide under the radar just enough to get by...and she seems to be doing that, to me at least. Others do as well, but I can't help but agree with Eomer and Kitanna, or at least with much of what they say.

EDIT: I'm afraid I must be off very shortly for a while, and so I will say this:

I think...

Eomer is the Seer.
Oddwen, Dancing Spawn, and Wilwa are the wolves.
Morm might be the Guardian...I don't know.
Lhuna might be the cobbler.

And so, I will vote ++Oddwen.

I hope this proves true...

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Here are the votes thus far:

Durelin
Elf-warrior
Lhuna
morm

Oddwen
Kitanna
Eomer
Durelin

It was very strange the first time she voted for me, as she had not previously mentioned me at all. Still, that was a Day 1 vote, and thus...well, random.Do you want me to explane that vote or would you like to believe that it was completely random? I'm just asking because I might vote for you again today.
Another interesting thing about Kitanna is that she is the only villager so far (I think) who seems to be listening to me about Oddwen. Does everyone else think I'm crazy? Hopefully I can get her and some others to take action in this direction tomorrow. Very well, I'll go back and re-read Oddwen's posts though I must say that I'm probably voting for Durelin or Kitanna.

[Durelin]

It might be nice if you could explain that, Spawn, yes.

[mormegil]

Eomer how you feel about Durelin is how I feel about Oddwen. I find her suspicous but not enough to want to vote for her. I am glad that she is garnering suspicion though. Kitanna sits about where Oddwen does in my book.

[the guy who be short]

The choice now is between Oddwen and Durelin. I cannot believe Durelin to be guilty, so it will have to be

++Oddwen.

After all, her name means Odd-woman. Seems wolvish to me. ;)

[Oddwen]

Another interesting thing about Kitanna is that she is the only villager so far (I think) who seems to be listening to me about Oddwen. Does everyone else think I'm crazy? Hopefully I can get her and some others to take action in this direction tomorrow.
Kitanna doesn't sit well with me. I think you are most likely innocent, Eomer, misguided though you be. But she who follows in your footsteps ain't no well-wisher to this village, and unless something changes within the next hour or so I'll probably be voting for her.

But are you two in cahoots? Is she your follower because of the allure of danger and fur and death? Is Kitanna the cobbler? Or is Kitanna a wolf following the lead of the cobbler and going to claim innocence of that later?!? Dun dun dunnnn!

Don't vote for me, you'll be sorry and it'll do no good.

Oddwen seems to be getting a lot of attention, too.
It's lonely here at the top. :rolleyes:

And concerning my suggestion for the Seer and Guardian plan thing... It is risky, giving any hints as to who the gifted villagers are, but, in the end, it saves lives.
The bad thing about this plan is the Werewolves are privy to it too. We need a proven innocent to put forth suggestions, because any others are not tried and could be poison to the mix. Yeah, that's been said before, hasn't it?
So we really can't act on that until one of our Sherriffs has passed on. Should one of them sacrifice themselves for the good of the Village? They're almost better to us when one is dead. (Ooh, another heartless comment...write that one down, Kitanna ;) )

About the only thing a Gifted can do if they're going to be lynched is to try to convince the voters of their status, but even then a Wolf could try to pull that off.

Of the three current suspiciousoids, (Kitanna, Durelin and I), I believe that

++KITANNA

is a wolf.

*sigh* Seems the more I talk in these events, the more suspicion I garner. Not everyone has unrestricted access to...um...the village meeting place. I'm not even supposed to be here right now.
Lotsa cross-posts.

[Oddwen]

*sob* Will you force me to reveal myself?

[littlemanpoet]

I don't have much time to explain my vote, but I'll try.

Durelin doesn't seem so wolfish to me as Guy & Kitanna.

I suspect Eomer of innocence and suspecting me in good faith. I'm not going to try to prove to him or Estel my innocence, but the possibility that at least one of the other two who voted for Guy as wolves is worth consideration ... unless Guy is a wolf.

I'm getting a little irked at comments like "it looks like {fill in the blank} is going die today. There have hardly been any votes cast. What is the point of saying such things? It seems like a kind of persuasion by suggestion I would expect from a werewolf. Eomer is moving from my neutral, to my suspect list. And Eomer keeps on saying he's not defending Guy while defending Guy. Anybody noticed that?

Please, friends, let's put a moratorium on any more votes for Durelin; I'm afraid we may be making a huge mistake if we lynch her....

++ Oddwen

This seems terribly inconsistent, I realize, but I've been reading posts and changing my mind as I've proceeded. What's done is done. :eek:

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Morm, if they're both wolves......then gimme a high-five! :D

But seeing Durelin's last post, and doing a fair bit of scrambling about between the lines, I really don't want to kill her. If Oddwen's innocent then I'll be very sorry and embarrassed and I'll put flowers on her grave every weekend as long as I'm still alive, but right now I'd much rather kill her than Durelin.

[the guy who be short]

Lhunardawen... Villager, Cobbler or Wolf?
A short thesis by The Stunted Professor.

Feanor accused Lhunardawen, claiming we should probably lynch her, before her death. Nobody seems to have mentioned this yet, and if Lhuna were intending to pull off a bluff, she must be chuckling to herself quietly.

But what's all this howling at the moon? an Obvious reference to wolvishness. Lhuna is either a wolf hiding in the open or the cobbler trying to attract votes. I would say Lhunardawen is probably the cobbler. It just feels right.

[The Only Real Estel]

Lmp: You need not try to 'convince' me of your innocence. I do not think you are guilty, you are mearly on my 'watch list,' which some people are on for different reasons.

Posted by mormegil:
Eomer how you feel about Durelin is how I feel about Oddwen. Kitanna sits about where Oddwen does in my book

And all three of those sit in the exact same spot in my book - they seem to be acting suspiciously, or at least at times, but not quite enough to convince me to vote for them. Still, I can't justify casting another vote at an Oromin of sorts for the second day in a row...I should be posting my vote soon once I've read a bit (& smoked).

edit: Now that tgwbs has rebrought Lhuna to my attention my voting is pretty much split between Lhuna, Durelin, & Oddwen. Voting Durelin or Oddwen would make my vote count more, but it also feels a bit like bandwagoning, because I don't really think either of them are guilty. Voting for Lhuna would be different than voting for an Oromin, because I am rather suspicous of her at the least being the cobbler. Now to choose...

[Kath]

I'm going to have to vote now as I will not be able to later. Thanks to Morm and Eomer I am now stuck between Oddwen and Durelin as to who to vote for. I have some suspicion of TGWBS still as to me he has not entirely cleared his name and Spawn is making me have worries over the Elf-Warrior. However it is obvious that a vote for one of the latter two would be ineffective and as I am momentarily less supsicious of Oddwen I shall vote for

++DURELIN

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ok, I have littlemanpoet to answer to.

You're right sir, I do suspect you in good faith. I am innocent of being a wolf and I believe you are more than slightly likely to be a wolf.

Here's why I (and others) say things like "It looks like so-and-so is going to die today" Assessing the discussion and the suspicion, it's hardly very likely that just anyone is going to die, now is it? When I said that today about Durelin it did appear to me obvious that she was going to get more votes than anyone. Apparently my powers of persuasion are rather brilliant (I'm guilty of that! :p ) Look, I'm as surprised as anyone that people have started to vote for Oddwen. But if it'll make you happy, then I won't say any such thing from now on. Because anything can happen!

About defending tgwbs, these are my thoughts. I am not so much defending him as I am attacking others. Ok, that is a slight defence of him, but I prefer to put emphasis on the other edge of the knife (that's a rubbish metaphor, so don't bother pointing that out!) If it makes you happy then kill tgwbs. Certainly I'm not sure he's innocent. But he is not near the top of my list.

[Oddwen]

Will you take a risk and kill a Gifted?

There are curretnly

5 votes Oddwen
3 votes Durelin
1 vote Kitanna

=9 votes total
15 voters in the village

There are seven votes left.
Durelin and Oddwen both claim to be gifted.

[Saurreg]

So lit' time left. Now me kast me vote:

++Dath Hedah Durelin

Dah lass made too many posts und seems to me seeh was trying a little too hard. Enuff for me to suspect 'er.

[the guy who be short]

Well, Durelin has made her role clear, and it is obviously beneficial if she hangs about a little while. If Oddwen really is gifted, then why not tell us your role? Or if you're a Shirriff, name the other one. Don't just sit there making a fuss and not telling us anything! :rolleyes: ;)

[The Only Real Estel]

Actually, Oddwen, I think I counted four votes for Durelin thanks to Kath's vote. As to claiming to be gifted that's just it - it's a claim. And the claim has to convince me for me to believe it. As it is I think I will vote for ++ Lhuna, she is acting suspiciously - could be a wolf, could be the cobbler. If the rest of the village thinks that both Durelin & Oddwen really are gifted - & if they're not yet convinced of Kitanna's guilt; I would advice voting for Lhuna so we can find out what she is for sure.

edit: lots of cross-posting & tgwbs I don't think if Oddwen is actually a sherrif she'd be allowed to say anything about it - that includes her partner. I think the votes are now tied at the top, 5-5, though I could be wrong.

[wilwarin538]

Well, Durelin has made her role clear, and it is obviously beneficial if she hangs about a little while.

Because of this and Durelin's own post earlier, I have a feeling Durelin isn't guilty. So I will cast my vote.

++Oddwen

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

The time is running out.
Durelin, here's a hasty explanation for my last vote. My theory got ruined since I had misinterpreted one of wilwa's and E-w's posts. When I realized that, I hadn't time or a proper reason to go agains them again so I chose to vote the next most suspicious person. Why it was you? Look answers from my post #115 and mormegil's post #163.

Currently, it's 5 votes for Durelin, 6 for Oddwen and 1 for Kitanna and 1 for Lhuna.

Durelin, according to your own methods (post #93) I should vote for you now because you're suspicious of me. :p
Seriously though, I find Durelin more suspicious than Oddwen.

This situation is driving me crazy! I almost already wrote Durelin's name here with two plus marks but if possible, there's still one person I find more suspicious than Oddwen and Durelin. Fingers crossed I shall vote for ++KITANNA. Am I avoiding my responsibility by choosing someone with only one vote when it's possible that she might not even meet with the gallows tonight? Whatever!!!

[Firefoot]

There are 20 minutes left; 3 of you have not voted. I will be annoyed if the vote becomes tied, so there. :p

[Oddwen]

I am your Guardian. Will my lonely vigils be in vain? :rolleyes:
If I'm not lynched today, Durelin will be. If she is not a wolf, I shall likely be killed tonight.

My suspicions of wolfhood belong to Kitanna, Guy, Wilwa, and perhaps Elf-Warrior. Lhuna confuses me also.

Wish I knew more to say, but I don't.

PS - hey, I just doubled my post count! :p

PPS - Flowers? Why thankee Eomer, but I'd rather receive them while I'm still alive. ;)

edited to add PPPS: a seer is more important than a guardian anyway. do what you will.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I feel absolutely horrible right now.... :(

This is like watching a car-crash.

[Saurreg]

Yer said it laddie. 'tis brreaking me hart too! :(

Oooh sweeeet Oddy, mayhaps me be daft, but I cannae find anythung against yer und yet me follow villagers go fur dah kill. Are yer tryly our guurad'an angle, sent by dah gre't Earthmodma to look aft'r us?

Ooooh dah suspense, me hart canne take it anymoore.

If yer innocent, den um sooo soorry cuz it seems yer buying dah big one. I would like to haf show'd yer around lassie, maybe cook up a haggis or two. Yer kind brrings in dah big bucks.

Ooohh. Ooohh.

[Firefoot]

And so the Day ends. Expect Oddwen's death soon.

[Firefoot]

Despite her protests, the villagers had chosen. Oddwen, a mere tourist who was unfortunate to be caught up in the troubles of Loveland, would die tonight.

“I tried to tell you!” she cried out over the clamors of the mob. “I’m your Ranger! Your guardian! Honest!” But the mob had simply gained too much momentum by then.

“If that’s so, you haven’t done such a great job of it!” yelled someone cruelly.

The mob herded her off towards the village square – towards the gallows. As the gallows rose into sight, however, doubt wavered in the hearts of the villagers. They hadn’t had a whole lot of luck with the gallows the previous night…

At this point, the executioner was able to make himself heard: “My axe is sharpened!” But he was overridden by another voice: “Let Nilp’s wolves kill the wolf! They’ve not eaten recently. Let the wolves kill the wolf!”

The mob seemed to forget any inkling that this might be their ranger that they were killing as a chant went up, “Wolves to kill the wolf! Wolves to kill the wolf!” They changed directions and headed out of town for Nilp’s wolf farm.

The wolves, curious about all the noise, gathered near the fence of their enclosure as the mob drew near. The villagers lost some time in figuring out how the latch on the gate worked, but eventually it was opened and Oddwen was shoved inside. “Maybe those wolves really will be good for something,” someone commented.

"This is the most unloving village I've ever had the misfortune to visit," grumbled Oddwen.

Now, wolves don’t usually attack people, and at least a few of the villagers realized this. They began to throw sticks and stones at the wolves to provoke them, and between fright and hunger they concerted their attacks on the available victim – Oddwen. In desperation, Oddwen drew back her cloak, and the villagers realized that this was no mere traveler’s cloak; it served a second purpose in covering Oddwen’s weapons of defense. As the wolves attacked, Oddwen did her best to defend herself, but the wolves’ sharp teeth, raw strength, and sheer numbers were no match for Oddwen and her sword. Though many wolves were wounded, and one or two killed, eventually Oddwen was overcome as one of the wolves made a lunge for her throat. Soon Oddwen collapsed to the ground, her body scored with tooth-slashes and her throat mangled.

The villagers had watched the whole thing in stunned silence. “She really was the Ranger… and we killed her,” mumbled that one villager. And as always, that villager spoke the truth. No longer did the village have protection from the werewolves – the wolves were ecstatic.

~*~*~*~

Living:

Dancing Spawn
Durelin
Elf-warrior
Encai
Eomer
Kath
Kitanna
Lhuna
LMP
Mormegil
Oromin
Saurreg
TGWBS
TORE
Wilwarin

Dead:

Firefoot – drowned and burned by werewolves on Night 1
Nilpaurion (Ordinary Villager) – beat piñata style and killed by villagers on Day 1
Fea (Ordinary Villager) – gutted and stuffed by werewolves on Night 2
Oddwen (Ranger) – killed by Nilp’s villager-provoked wolves on Day 2

Score:

Werewolves – 3
Villagers – 12

It is now Night 3. I need names from the Werewolves, Hunter, and Seer. Shirriffs should stop PM’ing. Night will end in 24 hours.

[Firefoot]

Despite the late hour, the hunter Durelin had not fallen asleep. She knew that her chances of dying tonight were high, so she remained armed and vigilant, ready for what the werewolves might bring.

Sure enough, she soon spotted three werewolves making their way to her house. She crept downstairs, drawing her sword. If she could, she would take one of them with her.

So when the wolves came through the door, the surprise attack was turned on them. They leapt at her, their sharp teeth gleaming as they snarled. The element of surprise was with Durelin, and many of her blows came too close for comfort, and she may have even beaten the wolves had they not decided to retreat and regroup, then come back in a more organized fashion.

“One of you was TGWBS,” murmured Durelin as they departed. “I’m sure of it.” So while she had a break from the furious attacks of the wolves, Durelin hastened to the blacksmith’s house, which was, in fact, next door. She found that TGWBS was not asleep at all and assumed it was because of wolfish activities, though in actuality he had been woken up by the commotion next door.

“I knew it was you! Thought you could hide from me here, didn’t you!” said Durelin triumphantly.

TGBWS held his blacksmith’s hammer ready, the only weapon accessible to him at the moment. He tried to ease what seemed to him Durelin’s utter madness. “You’re making a mista-” But Durelin’s age belied her swiftness. Taking the hammer to be a threat, she plunged her sword through TGWBS’s heart while TGWBS could only begin to swing his hammer in defense. Durelin’s face paled as TGWBS slumped to the ground – no wolf was he, but an ordinary villager.

Nor was Durelin ready when the real wolves burst through the door. In haste, she tried to pull her sword from TGWBS’s body, but to no avail. She was already scored with slashes by the time she was able to face the now organized wolves. As she swung her sword towards one of them, a second caught her wrist neatly in its mouth and snapped off her hand. She still fought valiantly with a knife in her other hand, but Durelin Erchamion was no match for three vicious wolves. Like so many flowers that Durelin had dead-headed, the wolves ripped her head from her body.

Durelin had been quite correct in saying that werewolves disliked flowers, and for their “victory lap” the wolves ripped the blossoms off every single one of Durelin’s plants in delight. Their night had been entirely successful, after all – two innocents dead where they had thought only to kill one!

~*~*~*~

Living:

Dancing Spawn
Elf-warrior
Encai
Eomer
Kath
Kitanna
Lhuna
LMP
Mormegil
Oromin
Saurreg
TORE
Wilwarin

Dead:

Firefoot – drowned and burned by werewolves on Night 1
Nilpaurion (Ordinary Villager) – beat piñata style and killed by villagers on Day 1
Fea (Ordinary Villager) – gutted and stuffed by werewolves on Night 2
Oddwen (Ranger) – killed by Nilp’s villager-provoked wolves on Day 2
Durelin (Hunter) – Dead-handed and dead-headed by werewolves on Night 3
TGWBS (Ordinary Villager) - Slain by Hunter on Night 3

Score:

Werewolves – 3
Villagers – 10

It is now Day 3. Shirriffs may begin PM'ing; Wolves should stop. Day will end in 24 hours.

[Orominuialwen]

I'm the Cobbler. Please lynch me.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I feel great shame for the part I played in yesterday's fiasco. In my melancholy, I read through everything said numerous times, and I am willing to share my ideas. Though I am less inclined to believe that the rest of the village is interested in my theories anymore.

But:

I still believe that there is a wolf who voted for tgwbs on DAY 1. That's either The Elf-Warrior or littlemanpoet.

I am slightly suspicious of Lhunardawen though now (and especially with tgwbs dead) I am thinking she is possibly the cobbler.

And one other villager who has shot to my attention after careful re-reading is Kitanna. I am finding her very suspicious indeed. I'll post more later, though with the benefit of hindsight, I am thinking I should probably just keep my mouth shut. :(

I am truly sorry for the dead, especially Oddwen and Durelin.

[Kath]

I'm the Cobbler. Please lynch me.
If you are the cobbler Oromin then surely it is not in our best interests to lynch you when you have simply given us less people to look at in our search for a wolf. Or, you could be a wolf hiding behind the role of the Cobbler so that we will not lynch you.

Now Oddwen and Durelin are dead so let's have a look at the people they were suspicious of.

Oddwen:
My suspicions of wolfhood belong to Kitanna, Guy, Wilwa, and perhaps Elf-Warrior. Lhuna confuses me also.

Durelin:
Oddwen, Dancing Spawn, and Wilwa are the wolves.

Now we know that TGWBS was innocent. Wilwa was suspected by both of them so I would suggest keeping a close eye on her and I hope that she posts quite a lot today so we can see any clues in her behaviour. Yesterday Kitanna drew a great deal of suspicion, she was second or third on most people's lists, and having now seen that Oddwen and Durelin were innocent, and indeed gifted leaving only the Shirriffs and the Seer as active gifteds, I think we should concentrate on her as well.

EDIT: Having just seen Eomer's post I think Elf-Warrior deserves some attention too. He doesn't post often enough for my liking, I can't make any decisions about him, he could be a wolf hiding under the radar.

[Kitanna]

I'm the Cobbler. Please lynch me.
*raises an eyebrow*

Oh my, I killed poor Oddwen! With my theory on Elf-Warrior shot I'm not sure of the guilty anymore. I was wrong two days in a row. I don't want to make it three. Though my Elf-Warrior theory is shot I still find lmp to be innocent. I also think morm is innocent. I'm not sure about anyone else. Though Wilwa should be watched...

[Kath]

Though my Elf-Warrior theory is shot
Sorry could you explain that? What was the theory and why is it shot? I think I missed it.

[Kitanna]

I thought Oddwen was the wolf and Elf-Warrior was a wolf, simply because of how they voted on Day 1. But since I was wrong about Oddwen I fear I may be wrong about Elf-Warrior too.

[Kath]

I would say that Oddwen being innocent makes it more likely that Elf-Warrior is a wolf. It would be odd for two wolves to vote for the same person unless they were sure that pretty much the whole village was going to vote and not that many people did on Day 1. And, if you are a wolf as I am thinking at the moment then this sudden move away from suspecting someone seems a little suspicious to me.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Just noticed Oromin's post before mine; I'm not sure how seriously to treat it.

[Orominuialwen]

I am a wolf. I am in circumstances that may make it difficult for me to participate, and at some point completely impossible. Do yourselves all a favor and lynch me. You'll kill a wolf, and not have to deal with a severe lack of posts from me. Lhuna and wilwa are my fellow wolves. Since I (hopefully) will no longer be here, I no longer care what happens. Believe me if you will. We discussed this last NIGHT and decided that the best way for me to get out would be to confuse the heck out of everybody so that you will vote for me sooner or later. Like I said, believe what you like, but if you don't lynch me, sooner or later I will have to pull out of the game if at all possible. Do yourselves all a favor and lynch me now.

[Kitanna]

I would say that Oddwen being innocent makes it more likely that Elf-Warrior is a wolf. It would be odd for two wolves to vote for the same person unless they were sure that pretty much the whole village was going to vote and not that many people did on Day 1. And, if you are a wolf as I am thinking at the moment then this sudden move away from suspecting someone seems a little suspicious to me.

This is how I thought of it. Oddwen was a wolf, her and Elf-Warrior had the plan to vote for the same person in hopes of gaining another vote.

Oddwen was not a wolf, though. So I am not so sure about Elf-Warrior. In any case I was flip-flopping on Elf-Warrior yesterday. And though at the moment I am completely unsure about Elf-Warrior. I didn't say he wasn't a wolf and I didn't say he was.

[Encaitare]

I don't trust a word Oromin is saying. First she says she's the cobbler, then she says she's a wolf. No matter what she is, she's not giving away any valuable information -- even the people she claims to be her fellow wolves.

Lhuna and wilwa are my fellow wolves.

This is a lie on at least one account.

I suggest that the Seer should dream about Oromin tonight and find out what she's up to.

[Kath]

Oromin is very confusing that is something I am sure of. And I personally think that she is the Cobbler. I would urge people not to vote for her because I think she is trying to protect the wolves, one of which I sincerely believe to be Kitanna. Therefore of the two people she has mentioned - wilwa and Lhuna - I think only one is actually a wolf. My suspicions there rest on wilwa who was mentioned by both our Hunter and our Ranger. Kitanna's change of heart about Elf-Warrior is causing me some trouble with deciding whether he is a wolf or not so I would appreciate hearing some more from him today so I can use his posts to make decisions rather than vague 'flipflopping' from Kitanna.

[mormegil]

Oromin is very confusing that is something I am sure of. And I personally think that she is the Cobbler. I would urge people not to vote for her because I think she is trying to protect the wolves, one of which I sincerely believe to be Kitanna. Therefore of the two people she has mentioned - wilwa and Lhuna - I think only one is actually a wolf. My suspicions there rest on wilwa who was mentioned by both our Hunter and our Ranger. Kitanna's change of heart about Elf-Warrior is causing me some trouble with deciding whether he is a wolf or not so I would appreciate hearing some more from him today so I can use his posts to make decisions rather than vague 'flipflopping' from Kitanna.

Kath I think I actual agree with you. Kitanna is very suspicious now, though I don't think after yesterday I deserve anybody's trust. My trust in my deductive powers has been shaken rather severely. I feel probably very similar to Eomer right now. I guess that's the problem with being vocal. I knew that they were acting different and therefore my suspicion was on them.

I've been very busy so I was unable to compile my list of votes. Who did not vote. Is there somebody that could have saved Oddwen and didn't? I'm beginning to think that at least Kitanna and Elf-warrior are guilty. I'm less worried about Encai than I have been though not completely pacified.

PS my axe is getting a bit frustrated at its lack of use. This village seems all to bent on taking these lynchings into their own hands...oh well I guess I still get paid.

[Orominuialwen]

Perhaps I am who I say I am and perhaps I'm not, but you would be well advised to lynch me. If you trust nothiong else, trust this. There's no reason to kill somebody who could be innocent when I've admitted my guilt. I have no idea if I will be back later. I hope you will follow my lead and do the right thing.

++ OROMINUIALWEN

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

This post will not focus on Oromin. Quite frankly, I'm too confused to take her admissions seriously at the moment, though I will return to them.

Kitanna's the one I'm concentrating on. I think that pretty face is hiding an extremely furry secret.

I was amused by her support yesterday for my Oddwen-theory. I didn't give it too much thought at the time. But looking back, she seems to have missed my point. It wasn't Oddwen in the particular who I thought was a wolf. Just one of the three who voted for tgwbs on DAY 1. That includes The Elf-Warrior and littlemanpoet. Her flip-flopping over The Elf-Warrior is strange, and her certainty over littlemanpoet's innocence (post #187) is very strange indeed. Why Oddwen and only Oddwen? I admit my huge blunder in singling her out, but the mistake makes me all the more sure that either The Elf-Warrior or littlemanpoet is guilty. But Kitanna is now prepared to let both my suspects off the hook. This is not following my theory at all, which leads me to ask 'Why did she follow the theory initially?' This looks like wolvish bandwagoning which missed the essential point.

Also, her stance towards Mormegil is even more baffling. She was (rightly) allowed that early defence of the executioner's bloodlust, attributing it to his profession. However, she then declares (in post #102) that she is always suspicious of that 'sneaky man'. But wait a minute! Just a couple of posts ago she decided that Mormegil was innocent. That's flip-flopping and with no reasons given.

She's completely untrustworthy. I think I know where my vote's going this evening.

[mormegil]

I am getting a bit concerned for the safety of our seer. We have 14 people left 3 of whom are wolves so 11 for the wolves to choose from. The seer has had 3 dreams which could shed some light on the situation. Of course, if those dreams were about people who have died then they are pointless now. I don't want the seer to reveal themselves at this time. However it is imperative that the seer begin leaving some clues of who they dreampt of. The seer should not make them too obvious so as to allow the wolves to identifiy him/her but they should be disernable upon the seer's death if that were to happen. If it appears that the seer will be lynched, please proclaim yourself and your dreams. Even if it's just innocents at least we will know somebody we can trust.

What does everybody else think?

[mormegil]

Though my Elf-Warrior theory is shot I still find lmp to be innocent. I also think morm is innocent. I'm not sure about anyone else. Though Wilwa should be watched...

If Kitanna is lynched as I think she may be today I would suggest looking at Wilwa very closely. A great wolfish tatic is to make sure to say you are suspicious of one another an yet never do much about it. And she's also trying to attach to at least one innocent here. I know I am innocent and actually believe LMP to be innocent as well. Elf-warrior is interesting too. I'm not sure Kitanna would have mentioned the other two wolves in one post but perhaps she did.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

It's time for my theory of the day but here are yesterday's votes in chronological order, to begin with (who voted for whom).

Elf-warrior -> Durelin
Lhuna -> -II-
mormegil -> -II-

Kitanna -> Oddwen
Eomer -> -II-
Durelin -> -II-
TGWBS -> -II-

Oddwen -> Kitanna

lmp -> Oddwen

Kath -> Durelin
Saurreg -> -II-

TORE -> Lhuna

wilwa -> Oddwen

spawn -> Kitanna

I think the wolves are wilwarin, Elf-warrior and especially Kitanna.
Reasons for my suspicions of Kitanna can be found in my post #169 and I won't repeat them here. Other things that make me think that she's a wolf are:

- She went pretty strongly against Oddwen. I believe that most of us think that Eomer's not guilty so that would have been a perfect way to associate oneself with an innocent.
- The "flip-flopping on Elf-warrior"

On day 1 wilwa said about accusing and lyncing people:
we should take our time with this decision
Yet twelve minutes later she said:Morm is a little too eager for some blood shed don't you think? After most of us disagreed with this, she starts the confusion talk. Is she playing a dull wolf? Anyway, I have found her behaviour rather weird.

On the first day wilwa, E-w and Kitanna voted rather late and all for a different person. Now you might ask who I am to blame because I have voted really late on both days but I'm not suspecting myself. There's the difference. ;) It seems to me that their votes were a safety operation for distracting us. They watched who would get votes and then each of them voted for a different vote-gatherer. All three seem to be rather easily persuaded, too.

About Oromin... She's following Nilp's footsteps. I'm afraid that there are two options (yes, again). Either Oromin is the cobbler or she is a wolf. If she's a wolf she may have thought that we learned something from Nilp's case and we won't lynch her. If Oromin is the cobbler, she's doing her job and making us confused. I'm not going to vote for her today.

The Seer is hiding his/her personality pretty well. I don't have a faintest clue who it might be and that's good. I trust his/her own deliberative ability to decide when to step forth.

[littlemanpoet]

Sorry, I haven't read any of today's posts yet, except to scan the Night's kill and to my horror we lost two, not one.

The madness must stop. I have been no help, and was wrong to tell Durelin that we could not organize because of no known innocents. It may be difficult to organize with no known (alive) innocents, but not impossible. Better to struggle than the current mad chaos.

I have a plan. A proposal.

1. Let's take a vote to choose a leader from amonst ourselves. This leader must have such traits as:

the confidence of a large number of villagers as likely innocent
good at strategy
clear communicator


2. The number of votes needed for such a leader to be agreed upon must be equal to the total number of current innocent villagers.

3. Choose a new leader each day. The previous day's leader may be chosen again, which makes sense if said leader did a good job.

4. If you agree with this proposal, show it by voting for a leader, using the following format, on its own line: LDR: {name}

It's possible that we might vote a cobbler or werewolf as our leader ... for a day. This is not necessarily a bad thing. It puts pressure on the werewolf to try and seem innocent while being very active, which is far more difficult than flying under the radar. If we inadvertently choose the cobbler as our leader, this is the one person who could sabotage the day's efforts. I see no clear way around that. Suffice it to say that it can be no worse than losing two gifted villagers in the space of a night and day.

The whole point of this is to try to take the initiative away from the werewolves. I'm not sure it will succeed, but it's better than the current chaos, I think. And whoever the leader is, I would request that we actually have a trial of law, and that we arrest both Kitanna and Elf Warrior and put both of them to trial today. The leader can serve as magistrate. If the current Moddessgoddess thinks I'm taking things way out of control for the kind of game this is, please say so. At least it's more civilized than the wild accusations and mass murder we're currently visiting upon each other.

[littlemanpoet]

Check out post # 131. I don't have the time to link it. If you think Elf Warrior is a werewolf, then this post helps me deduce that Wilwarin must be too. Maybe someone has said this already. Let's put all three (including Kitanna to trial. Lynch at least one of them, and let the Seer dream another one. Gee, if only there were two seers..... :p

EDIT: IF my computer starts working again I'll be okay for this weekend. Otherwise, I might not be able to vote toDay, nor be of much use Sat. or Sun. Sorry. :( I'll try though.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

That's an interesting suggestion, lmp and it just might work. Unfortunately it's so late that I can't even think straight not to mention being in a valid state for choosing a leader character. Couldn't we have a trial without a magistrate? Maybe not. See you after I have had some sleep.

[Kath]

LMP since we have three clear suspects and you are going to be away for most of the next two days this trial idea seems a little superfluous and complicated. If we agree to lynch Kitanna today and everbody votes for her, her death will lead us to one of two options. If she is a wolf we lynch wilwa the next day, and if she is a wolf the next day we lynch Elf-Warrior. Now if my some amazing chance Kitanna is not a wolf I still say we follow this plan as most of the village seems to suspect the same people.

Now your trial idea LMP is basically this in a far more complicated form. As the votes mount up for each person they will in effect give their defence to try and prevent people from voting for them. It should also be slightly less difficult to carry out.

Also, we can totally mess up any plans the wolves may have to change the votes because if we agree to this plan today and then someone does not vote for Kitanna we can deduce that they are a wolf. The only person who could affect this is the Cobbler. If Oromin has that role then we are safe as she has already voted for herself, if it is someone else we follow the lynch pattern of Kitanna then wilwa then Elf-Warrior and if one of these turns out to be innocent we can try Oromin next.

I would like people to say whether they agree with this plan well before the end of voting nears so that we know whether it will work and who is involved. Even if you have only one chance to put your vote in then just say whether you will follow this lynch list so everyone knows for future days.

Just to make it clear as this post is a little confused the list is:
TODAY: Kitanna
TOMORROW: wilwa
NEXT DAY: Elf-Warrior

I know I've mentioned this already but please, if you agree with this plan and WILL follow this list then SAY SO in your post. If we don't get enough people agreeing this will not work.

My vote will be for Kitanna but I want to see who agrees with this before I vote.

[Kitanna]

This will probably be the death of me.
I may just die today, but if I can convince you think about Oro.

Oro is my Quenya partner and sent me an e-mail saying we could not continue our lessons for awhile because she has some serious RL problems. So, at any time she could have to drop out of the game.

I'm ignoring Oro's claims to being the wolf and the cobbler for the most part. But her behavior today was very unlike her. I doubt she would act like that unless she seriously needed out of the game.

Oro's absence in voting will only hurt the game in the end. So I suggest following her own lead and vote for her. Tomorrow you can lynch whoever.

[mormegil]

LMP I am a bit confused at what role this leader would perform. If I were to give my vote of those who I must trust it would be in this order.

1. TORE
2. Eomer
3. LMP
4. Saurreg--though strangely silent
5. Spawn
6. Kath

Of course I trust me the most but I don't think I can vote for myself. But being that TORE has stated he had to make a brief trip and won't be around much I would say Eomer if I had to but won't yet because I don't understand their value and what they will actually do.

If I had to pick my most suspicious list I would say

1. Kitanna
2. Elf-Warrior
3. Wilwarin
4. Oromin
5. Encai
6. Lhuna

Watch knowing my luck my lists should be backwards :mad: :o

Firefoot: On your last post you still have Oddwen on the living list.

[mormegil]

This will probably be the death of me.
I may just die today, but if I can convince you think about Oro.

Oro is my Quenya partner and sent me an e-mail saying we could not continue our lessons for awhile because she has some serious RL problems. So, at any time she could have to drop out of the game.

I'm ignoring Oro's claims to being the wolf and the cobbler for the most part. But her behavior today was very unlike her. I doubt she would act like that unless she seriously needed out of the game.

Oro's absence in voting will only hurt the game in the end. So I suggest following her own lead and vote for her. Tomorrow you can lynch whoever.

No we'd rather leave an innocent alive that cannot post than waste one more day killing an innocent when we feel as confident as we have about one's guilt...oh ya that's you my little wolf. I think I will sharpen my axe, though I don't know why it seems I'll never get to use it.

[Kath]

Kitanna I'm sorry but I disagree. Having three werewolves rather than two will be more detrimental than having one person who cannot get on to vote. A complete absence will be less of a problem.

Morm you're here, do you agree with the lynch-list?

[Firefoot]

Firefoot: On your last post you still have Oddwen on the living list. Thanks for pointing that out; it's been fixed. Carry on.

[mormegil]

Morm you're here, do you agree with the lynch-list?

Yes, though I'm more suspicious of Elf-Warrior than Wilwarin but either way they are my top 3 suspects. If Kitanna turns out not to be I think I will jump off a cliff in frustration.

[Kath]

I'm happy to switch the second two lynchings around if you'd prefer. I just want everyone to agree on one person to vote for each day.

[mormegil]

Well I say we get on with it then. No need to wait I don't feel I will change my vote in the least so...

++KITANNA

And it's likely that upon seeing that she will be dying the wolves will vote for her as well. But having said this they may not.

[The Elf-warrior]

I have been away working. I've caught up on the devopments and I see that everyone I voted for is innocent including Durelin and Oddwen the Ranger was lynched.:( I think lmp's idea is better than Kath's. Kath might be a wolf.
LDR: Mormegil

Couldn't Oromin have dropped out without claiming to be a cobbler and a wolf? I would say believe her although I don't know exactly what. I'll post more later.

[Encaitare]

I do not know why everyone is casting so much blame on Wilwa; it is certainly unjustified. Kath's list [Kitanna, Wilwa, Elf-warrior] makes me uneasy. If Kitanna is lynched tomorrow and is innocent, I think Kath will be next on my suspect list.

[mormegil]

I do not know why everyone is casting so much blame on Wilwa; it is certainly unjustified. Kath's list [Kitanna, Wilwa, Elf-warrior] makes me uneasy. If Kitanna is lynched tomorrow and is innocent, I think Kath will be next on my suspect list.

Well Encai pray tell who do you suspect?

[Encaitare]

I do suspect Kitanna. That's not why I don't like the way the list goes. There is someone else I do not suspect, and I don't want to see an innocent's eyes fluttering closed as they hang...

[The Elf-warrior]

I think Kath is trying to appear innocent by attacking Kitanna, her fellow wolf. Dancing Spawn and Oddwen voted for Kitanna yesterday. I think the plan was that Kitanna would be sacrificed and Kath would be vindicated when we see that Kitanna was a wolf. Then Kath would be able to get me and Wilwa lynched.


I don't trust a word Oromin is saying. First she says she's the cobbler, then she says she's a wolf. No matter what she is, she's not giving away any valuable information -- even the people she claims to be her fellow wolves.

Lhuna and wilwa are my fellow wolves.

This is a lie on at least one account.
I suggest that the Seer should dream about Oromin tonight and find out what she's up to.

Encaitare is essentially claiming to be either the Seer (which is very unlikely) or a Shirriff. And she has defended Wilwa twice today. I'm willing to stake my life on my theory.

I won't be on the rest of the DAY so I'll vote now for

++Kath

[Orominuialwen]

Originally posted by The Elf-warrior
Couldn't Oromin have dropped out without claiming to be a cobbler and a wolf? But you see, I am a wolf. It would cause more problems if I just dropped out than if you lynched me. My fellow wolves and I discussed last NIGHT which way would be best for me to get lynched, and it was decided that I should try to confuse the heck out of you by alternately claiming to be the cobbler and a wolf. Please, I'm almost certainly going to have to leave the game anyway, and since I'm a wolf anyway, you should lynch me. The reason I will have to leave is that a family member who lives in a different part of the country went into a coma on Wednesday night. I won't be able to see her again, because there's no place for me to stay where she is (she's in the hospital in another city from where she lives), but I will have to go for the funeral, and I could have to leave at any time. I don't want to screw up the game for everybody else by withdrawing, so I'd appreciate if you'd just let me out in the normal way: by lynching.

I'm not asking you to believe any of the game-related things I've said, but my account of the RL issues I'm having is true. If nothing else, please take that into account.