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The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 06:48 AM
Ack! Boromir88! Just as I was beginning to get a good feeling about you, you go and put in an early vote. Don’t get me wrong. I still view morm as the more likely Wolf out of our two possible Hunters. But I intend to wait and hear what everyone has to say before finally making up my mind and casting my vote.

Now that I think on’t, you are habitually one of the earliest voters. Is there any reason in particular for that?

And could you also put my mind to rest on one other tiny residual niggle that I have. Am I to understand you to be saying that your response to Cailin’s comment about Eomer being a suicidal Wolf shows that you realised at that point that she was the Seer and that this therefore speaks in your favour? It’s just that, while I don’t doubt that you (like me) were confident of her identity by the start of the next Day, I don’t see anything in your response there to suggest that you realised it there and then.

I’m not accusing you. Not yet, anyway. It’s just that, even if it is the case (as I believe) that mormegil and wilwa are Wolves, there is still one more to catch. And I am fairly sure that, as things have developed during yester-Day and to-Day, that Wolf will have been doing his or her darnedest to distance him/her-self from the other Wolves. So, while I am inclined to trust some more than others, I am still not discounting anybody (except whoever out of morm and Abercrombie turns out not to be a Wolf).

Wilwarin has said nothing to assuage my belief in her guilt. Her vote for mormegil does not surprise me, nor does it reassure me about her. And I don’t regard it as unlikely that two Wolves voted for Alcarillo yester-Day. The point has been made on a number of occasions that Wolves like to spread their votes around, so perhaps they thought that we would assume that two Wolves would not vote for the same person. Certainly, that’s what wilwarin seems to be claiming in her defence.

And, while on the subject of Alcarillo – where the deuce is he? His silence does concern me, because I have seen him about over the last Day or so. Did he speak at all yester-Day? He certainly did not vote, and he has not spoken yet to-Day. Why on earth would that be?

mormegil
10-06-2005, 07:26 AM
Now if both Morm and I were wolves, I seriously doubt we both would have voted for Alcarillo, especially within a few posts of each other. Eomer was most likely going to be lynched, that was fairly obvious at that point I believe. So I don't think two of the other wolves would have tried to get the voting in another direction. I was a fool to follow along with it.


No I don't either and you make a mistake in saying this Wilwa, for when my innocence is proven, as it surely will be today, you will be implicated further. So I truly hope that you are not innocent.

*Sigh* I don't know what else I can say. I've been accused of making up crazy theories but it seems they are being made up about me too. Why would a Morm-Wolf (knowing the way these things work) declare himself the wolf? The only possible reason would be to flush out the Hunter. The Hunter is usually a liability and they usually (always?) kill innocents. Why would the wolves be worried about them? I was rather taken aback when AoR claimed to be the Hunter too. If you lynch me today I promise you all that you will loose your last gifted! I know that won't be taken seriously but mark my words. The only person I see speaking any sense today, besides myself, is Márcolië Lamen.

SpM since you seem to think me guilty but at least have a level head about it please do an analysis of what an innocent mormegil would mean and strategy for tomorrow. That way you can get a head start on it.

I see Wilwa's vote yesterday as an attempt to save her friend. I will pride myself on knowing that I helped flush out two wolves if Wilwa turns out to be one too. I knew Alcarillo would not be lynched but that Eomer would. So a vote for him was rather meaningless. However the wolves would view this as a chance to not vote for their comrade and give him a fighting chance. Think about it. And SpM please take my request seriously. If you are innocent you will thank me in the end.

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 07:50 AM
Why would a Morm-Wolf (knowing the way these things work) declare himself the wolf? (emphasis added)Freudian slip, anyone?

arcticstorm
10-06-2005, 09:04 AM
AS of right now, I am beginning to lean more towards the innocence of Mormegil, but that may change by the end of the day. My reason behind this is that I do not understand why a fake hunter would reveal himself when the real one is out there still. I am confused about this whole affair.

Márcolië Lamen
10-06-2005, 09:11 AM
Why would a fake hunter declare himself when the hunter is out there or when the hunter just declared himself. Either way they know they're going to die. Its the same logic.

I'm thinking we may want to think about wilwarin and see if any more freudian slips or other hints come out from anyone.

I wouldn't say there's any reason to go against artic for feeling differently than us. Its best to have an innocent devil's advicate in case we're wrong.

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 09:50 AM
Why would a fake hunter declare himself when the hunter is out there or when the hunter just declared himself. Either way they know they're going to die. Its the same logic.Precisely. The difference, however, being that, prior to both revelations, I had directly accused mormegil of being a Wolf and Marcolie had indicated strong suspicions, whereas Abercrombie had not come under much suspicion at all. Surely the one under the greater pressure is the one more likely to resort to such a desperate ploy.

To coin a phrase used by our dearly departed Seer, are you sure you want to align yourself with a suicidal Wolf, Arctic? ;)

I'd like to hear more from Abercrombie on this. And I'd also like to hear something - anything - from Azaelia and Alcarillo.

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 10:05 AM
... a thought just occurred to me.

A question for the Holberator.

Does the Hunter's Night-time target hold for the next Day, or does the Hunter get to make a fresh choice (ie one different from the previous Night) if s/he is lynched by the Village during the Day?

mormegil
10-06-2005, 10:45 AM
So SpM your mind is obviously closed to the possibility of my innocence. I wrote that post first thing when I woke up and was needing to run because I was running late. I feel so frustrated now, I came out hoping to help the village and all I get for my efforts are jeers and nitpicking. So SpM I submit my request again to you--just do an analysis of what it would mean if I am innocent. I want to give you a head start.

I find it telling that two people are willing to vote for me so soon, hoping to start a bandwagon before we even here again from AoR. :rolleyes:

Bah! I give up on trying to tell you intransigent ingnoramuses that I am innocent and will begin to focus my attention on finding actual wolves. Because even though you have turned your back on the ranger and now the hunter I will not turn my back on you.

My list of wolves are (in order this time)
1. Abercrombie of Rohan
2. Wilwarin
3. Boromir88

Márcolië Lamen has dropped from my suspect list because of her intelligent thought and being innocent I agree with her strategy. I'm glad I didn't die tonight or you would have died with me :o

Articstorm has become much lower on my list too. Not cleared 100% though

SaucepanMan while extremely frustrating and bull-headed is not likely guilty, though like Articstorm not 100% cleared.

Azaelia in looking back over Cailin I believe she may have dreamt of her and I believe her to be innocent.

Formendacil I'm still unsure about.

Alcarillo about the same as formendacil, I just can't get a great read on him and was hoping to hear something from him yesterday in regards to my vote but obviously we didn't.

so there is my list take it or leave it.

Holbytlass
10-06-2005, 10:46 AM
from the Holberator:

I've always thought that the hunter could decide who to take down with them at time of death, giving the mod a name at night is a courtesy in case the wolves happen to choose them, and during the day if it looks like the hunter is going to be lynched to P.M. a name. Therefore, the name does not have to be the same as the night before.

Formendacil
10-06-2005, 10:52 AM
Time slips away... fewer hours are left until our next gory evening than from this morning...

I am still of the opinion that Morm is the wolf and Abercrombie is the real Hunter- but I still think we should lynch Wilwarin- getting rid of the most obvious wolf, and allowing the wolves to clear up for us just who was/is the Hunter.

And I hope that others will vote the same way...

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 10:55 AM
Behold the Holberator! Praise her with mighty praise! (Thanks)

Mormegil, I would be interested to hear from you a rational explanation of why on earth a Wolf-Abercrombie would claim to be the Hunter following your revelation.

mormegil
10-06-2005, 10:59 AM
Mormegil, I would be interested to hear from you a rational explanation of why on earth a Wolf-Abercrombie would claim to be the Hunter following your revelation.

To be honest I do not know other than two possible explinations and that is why I was as dumbfounded as the rest about it.

1. Inexperience, which she has
2. To cause some confusion

oh and a 3rd
3. A quick rash decision that she didn't think about too much and now regrets.

I agree with Formendacil that Wilwa should go and if the wolves kill me tonight I will bring down AoR but I doubt they will kill me now, they will leave that for the innocents.

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 11:01 AM
As I said, I will wait to hear more from Abercrombie.

Formendacil
10-06-2005, 11:08 AM
I agree with Formendacil that Wilwa should go and if the wolves kill me tonight I will bring down AoR but I doubt they will kill me now, they will leave that for the innocents.

Well, if you ARE the Hunter, you would be a logical choice to take down... and by killing AoR with you, we would be down a Wolf and down a Hunter.

On the other hand, if you are a Wolf, and you survive, the logical choice tonight to take down would be AoR- whom you know is a hunter, and who would likely take you down with her.

Either way, the village wakes up tomorrow morning and is down one Hunter and one Wolf. Works for me...

Of course, having said that, the Wolves- whoever they are, will likely push today for Morm or AoR's death, killing off the real one, claiming the other one is still the Hunter, and go off to kill someone else...

I still think it best to vote off Wilwa.

mormegil
10-06-2005, 11:22 AM
Not to push my own death or anything but I said that if not lynched I probably wouldn't die tonight because I really don't think they would kill me. Let me explain why. The wolves know that I'm the hunter and I know that I am, all innocents do not however. So by not killing me tonight they would not loose AoR (wolf) at night thus another day of confusion, unless people begin to believe me, would follow. But we could make it work to our advantage because we will always know that AoR is a wolf and therefore not trust her. If lynched today I may bring down Wilwa with me instead and let you lynch AoR tomorrow. But to do that I need to be 100% certain of Wilwa's guilt

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 11:30 AM
On the other hand, if you are a Wolf, and you survive, the logical choice tonight to take down would be AoR- whom you know is a hunter, and who would likely take you down with her.Formen, I seriously doubt that, if the Hunter lives to see the Night, the Wolves will attack him/her, for they are likely to lose one of their number if they do. They will go for an innocent who can do them no harm.

OK. Here's my thinking.

If we lynch either mormegil or Abercrombie and get it right, we will be down one Wolf and one innocent (the Wolves' over-Night kill) to-Morrow morning. Count: 6-2

If we lynch either mormegil or Abercrombie and get it wrong, we will be down 1 innocent (the Hunter) and 1 Wolf to-Day and we will lose a further innocent over-Night. Count: 5-2

If we lynch wilwa and she is a Wolf, to-Morrow will find us down 1 Wolf and 1 innocent. Count: 6-2.

But, if we lynch wilwa and she turns out to be innocent (which is still a possibility in mind, albeit unlikely), we will be down 2 innocents by to-Morrow. Count: 5-3

I would prefer the certainty of killing a Wolf to-Day and then see where we are to-Morrow (although it is quite possible that I will not be here). So my preference would be to vote for either mormegil or Abercrombie. Probably morm, on the basis of the evidence to date, but I have not yet made my final decision.

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 11:33 AM
If lynched today I may bring down Wilwa with me instead and let you lynch AoR tomorrow. But to do that I need to be 100% certain of Wilwa's guiltNo morm. If you are the Hunter and you are lynched, you must go for Abercrombie. In that situation, you can be 100% certain of her guilt, while you can never be 100% certain of wilwa's guilt.

Same goes for Abercrombie if you are the Hunter and end up being lynched (except that you must, of course, go for morm).

mormegil
10-06-2005, 11:51 AM
No morm. If you are the Hunter and you are lynched, you must go for Abercrombie. In that situation, you can be 100% certain of her guilt, while you can never be 100% certain of wilwa's guilt.

Fair enough, unless there is a majority that feel otherwise I will go for AoR if I'm lynched today.

Márcolië Lamen
10-06-2005, 11:59 AM
If we lynch wilwarin and she doesn't turn out to be a wolf we'd be 5-3, taking in tomarrow we'd be 4-2 assuming we lynch the wolf. and 3-2 if we get the hunter. This gets to 1 day to get the last wolf who we are not sure of.

If today we get the wolf we are sure of then tomarrow lynch wilwarin, in the worst case it'd be 4-2, still only have a day to get one because they'd kill an innocent at night.

But once you get out of the worst case senarios, lynching Wilwarin today if it turns out to be a mistake hurts us in comparision to waiting for tomarrow when we'll be more sure.

This applies to the hunter too, in fact more importantly. If we kill the hunter and they take down a non-wolf, we'd be 4-3 tomarrow. Lynching tomarrow would be easy, but then we'd be 3-2 again, and with even less to go off of.

Hunter, do not make the mistake of taking down a only probable wolf, instead take down the known wolf and hunt Wilwarin tonight. You'd surivive the night too unless she's an innocent, in which case we'd be 4-3...

Be smart with choices everyone.

mormegil
10-06-2005, 12:46 PM
Part of the reason people are not suspecting AoR is because some people, SpM, are saying that she wouldn't come out and lie about her not being the hunter because she had no suspicion on her. I call you attention to this post (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=419108&postcount=208) where she goes out of her way to say that she has had a good amount of suspicion on her. I think that she has, as a wolf, felt more suspicion on her than she actually had and is panicking, or so to speak "feeling the heat". She buckled under that pressure and thought this would be an out. I will say one last time if you want to keep an innocent around, albeit a possible liability (hunter that is) lynch AoR for she is are true Lycan.

Boromir88
10-06-2005, 12:52 PM
Ack! Boromir88! Just as I was beginning to get a good feeling about you, you go and put in an early vote. Don’t get me wrong. I still view morm as the more likely Wolf out of our two possible Hunters. But I intend to wait and hear what everyone has to say before finally making up my mind and casting my vote.
~Now that I think on’t, you are habitually one of the earliest voters. Is there any reason in particular for that?SpM
Call me a bit trigger happy. It's pretty apparent mormegil claimed to the hunter to throw off suspicion from himself. And if it wasn't for Abercrombie, I would have bought him as a hunter. I saw no reason why he had to reveal himself if he wasn't strongly suspected. Only you had brough suspicions up against him, there was no need to reveal himself.
so there is my list take it or leave it.~morm
Sounds like something I say.

I keep on asking myself why would mormegil come out if he really was the hunter? And now why is he so apprehensive about not going after Abercrombie, he seems (along with Formendacil) to be pushing the point in lynching wilwarin.

His plan has failed, but the wolves do achieve some success by this. They drag out the hunter, and in doing so probably kill Abercrombie tonight who may/may not take down an innocent. But, the final three wolves are, my friends...

Mormegil
wilwarin
Formendacil

I have spent countless years working on the brain and it's functions, I seriously doubt I am wrong in this. Abercrombie's our hunter, Morm's our wolf, and if I'm wrong I deserve to have the most exscruciating death imaginable.

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 01:29 PM
Boro, would you mind satisfying my curiosity on this point, please?

And could you also put my mind to rest on one other tiny residual niggle that I have. Am I to understand you to be saying that your response to Cailin’s comment about Eomer being a suicidal Wolf shows that you realised at that point that she was the Seer and that this therefore speaks in your favour? It’s just that, while I don’t doubt that you (like me) were confident of her identity by the start of the next Day, I don’t see anything in your response there to suggest that you realised it there and then.

AbercrombieOfRohan
10-06-2005, 02:06 PM
Actually, Morm-wolf, my thoughts yesterday were exactly the opposite.
It was fairly obvious to me that Cailin was the seer and that she stood a good chance of dying during the night. So I reacted, perhaps a bit too vehemently, in the hopes that the village would understand me as innocent. I did not want the village to lose their last gifted, and this was how I posted. But it now appears that I, the last gifted, shall be destroyed anyways, thanks to you, wolf.

More later, I promise.

Formendacil
10-06-2005, 02:10 PM
But, the final three wolves are, my friends...

Mormegil
wilwarin
Formendacil

Ouch!

I am deeply hurt, Boromir, but since, as far as I know, you are one of the innocents, I'm willing to grant you the benefit of doing what you think best for the safety of the village. The fact is, however, that you are wrong about me.

Your point, Master Pan Man is welltaken regarding the Wolves, and perhaps I am overly optimistic in hoping that it would resolve itself tonight on that score.

Enough tactics or fears from me. The deadline is four hours away. Let me state then, unequivocally, my feeling that Wilwa is a wolf:

++Wilwarin538

mormegil
10-06-2005, 02:49 PM
++Wilwarin

Now let me explain my vote, not that it will do much good because seemingly anything I do is twisted and contorted so that it appears wolvish. Anyway I am nearly certain that Wilwa is guilty so she makes a great lynching candidate today. I am 100% certain that AoR is guilty, therefore if by some open-minded miracle I am not lynched today I will have a wolf to hunt at night in case they do go after me, though that's not likely. However it would give us a wolf to go after tomorrow too AoR, unless we suspected somebody a bit more than we do currently, such as Boromir who is beginning to throw up major red flags in my mind.

Anyway that's my thinking and I hope I am taken seriously because I honestly did hope that my annoucing myself would be for the greater good of the village. I felt that at this time a known innocent would be a great asset and the wolves would think twice before killing me. The hunter is an interesting gift, unlike the seer and ranger I can protect myself so to speak and that was my thinking because the wolves may not go after me because I could bring one of them down and then we would still have one known innocent the next day. Obviously that plan went awry when AoR falsely claimed huntership. So I am sorry that my decision caused great confusion.

Boromir88
10-06-2005, 03:45 PM
Boro, would you mind satisfying my curiosity on this point, please?

Originally Posted by me
And could you also put my mind to rest on one other tiny residual niggle that I have. Am I to understand you to be saying that your response to Cailin’s comment about Eomer being a suicidal Wolf shows that you realised at that point that she was the Seer and that this therefore speaks in your favour? It’s just that, while I don’t doubt that you (like me) were confident of her identity by the start of the next Day, I don’t see anything in your response there to suggest that you realised it there and then.
Yes, that comment was when I realised she was the Seer. I didn't leave any hints to that knowledge, but that was when it became pretty clear to me that she was the Seer. I took notice to it, because it was directed towards me and my supposed "alliance" with a suicidal wolf.

Which I admit, at that time, I had not suspected Eomer as a wolf, and it did seem like I thought along with him on several occasions. That is why the next day I as he said "seemingly voted for him without a reason." I had a reason on why I voted for him, because I found out Cailin was the Seer and she had dreamt of Eomer. Why I couldn't say anything because I didn't know who all else caught the hints and wasn't intentionally trying to draw attention to it.

Boromir88
10-06-2005, 03:46 PM
Not to worry to much Formendacil, I just find it odd that you have been insistant that wilwarin is a wolf and that we all should vote for her, and It's been 100% confirmed in my mind that mormegil is a wolf with the follow up vote.

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-06-2005, 03:50 PM
Apologies, all. I have been at school and then drama club, so I have not been able to get online until now.

It makes slight sense that I would have been a dream... I was under quite a lot of suspicion for a while... Unfortunately, it, if anything, increases my likelihood of death toNight.

Azaelia of Willowbottom: Seems suspicious. Her vote for Eomer came after he was already convicted de facto. Is it just an attempt to ingratiate herself with the Villagers, or is it a sign that she is one of them? Somehow, it seems easier to picture it as the former...

I'm sorry my vote came at the time it did. I have work until 6:00 and various things prevent me from getting online until the time that I do. I'm not trying to ingratiate myself to anyone. Of course, I'm relieved that people seem to think I am innocent toDay... But my late vote was not a strategy move at all. I had suspicions of Eomer, and voted for him. Had I cast a totally-out there vote for someone I didn't suspect at all, would it have made me any less suspicious? My vote came for Eomer because he seemed the most guilty of everyone at that time.

But enough about me.

This is a most interesting situation. Morm says he is the hunter, then Abercrombie posts saying that's a lie and he is not the hunter because she is.
Both people seem slightly suspicious. But I am going with thinking that perhaps Abercrombie is innocent because she would have no reason to post and say that no, she was the hunter, unless she really was. If she was a wolf, she wouldn't know if Morm was or not...and probably would be content to just keep her head down and try not to attract much attention...Rather than risk disbelief and death at the gallows.

One of the two is a wolf. One of the two is the real hunter. There is no other way to see it. So I think Morm is a wolf, and Abercrombie is the innocent villager.

mormegil
10-06-2005, 03:52 PM
Not to worry to much Formendacil, I just find it odd that you have been insistant that wilwarin is a wolf and that we all should vote for her, and It's been 100% confirmed in my mind that mormegil is a wolf with the follow up vote.

Let me know how those words taste, my friend, when you end up eating them okay. Can you tell me why you were so eager to vote for me today when we hadn't heard from many people?

Formendacil
10-06-2005, 04:01 PM
Not to worry to much Formendacil, I just find it odd that you have been insistant that wilwarin is a wolf and that we all should vote for her, and It's been 100% confirmed in my mind that mormegil is a wolf with the follow up vote.

Funnily enough, I still think that Mormegil is the next most likely wolf. But I'm not certain...

That's the main reason behind my voting and continually mentioning Wilwa's guilt: I'm more certain. Very certain in fact. Impossible, of course, to be positive, until after death, but more certain that where Mormegil is concerned.

As for pushing for Wilwa, the thought is there in my mind that this could easily become, and indeed, some have been pushing for it to become, a Morm/AofR contest, which I am afraid could play into some people's hands, but which I am also concerned will have people forgetting that Wilwa is most likely a wolf.

Furthermore, after voting three days now on tenuous feelings that don't seem to have been proved right in the longterm, I want to vote for someone who I almost KNOW is a Werewolf.

AbercrombieOfRohan
10-06-2005, 04:20 PM
No surprise here,

++Mormegil.

arcticstorm
10-06-2005, 04:28 PM
I will bvite for someone who I am almost sure of to be a wolf
++Wilwa

Márcolië Lamen
10-06-2005, 04:39 PM
Three votes each for the two I'm sure are guilty. I'll take into consideration the possiblity of them not being so and vote for

++Mormegil

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-06-2005, 04:49 PM
Arctic and Formendacil have both voted for wilwa, claiming that they "know" she is a wolf; are more certain that she is a wolf than either of the others, etc etc. I find this suspicious behavior, since we *Know*, more definitely than we could ever know about wilwa that one of either morm or abercrombie is a wolf.

So, that being what it is, I have made up a suspect list, though I am normally not a list-maker. This is, of course, subject to change at any time.

Morm
Formendacil
arcticstorm

and following that, I will vote for my highest suspect toDay.

++Morm

mormegil
10-06-2005, 05:05 PM
I have a few final words to say.

I want to compliment Marcolie and Formendacil. Even though Marcolie voted for me they both seemed to use genuine wisdom in their decision today and thought about a continued effort in finding actual wolves. Others have been so blinded by AoR trickery that they honed in on me and didn't give the possibility that I'm innocent a second of consideration. Those are they who appear most wolfish to me. Wilwarin's vote for me with absolutely no reason and Boromir's early vote are very telling. They obviously wanted to get the bandwagon rolling. I think Boromir may be guilty but he's a distant 3rd behind AoR and Wilwa. So what I'm saying about Boromir is after my death please suspect him but don't lynch him necessarily until guilt is more sure than it currently is. Give him a fair chance.

Anyway I have been very frustrated today and I'm sorry that it has shown in my posts. I have felt rather like (movie) Sam must have felt when Frodo turned him away for a silly trick that Gollum played. The trick was so obvious and yet he couldn't spot it. All Sam wanted to do was serve Frodo, who I view the innocence as, and yet Frodo let Gollum get in the way and impede the progress.

I still recommend we kill Wilwa today but I am calm and prepared to meet an innocent death. It is in the remaining innocent villagers hands.

Edit: oh and Articstorm gets an honorable mention too for his open-mindedness and voting Wilwa.

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 05:05 PM
OK. I am thinking of doing something which may seem a little bit strange.

Having seen the votes mount up for wilwarin, it occurs to me that a lot would be learned from her death. If she is lynched and found to be guilty, all well and fine. But, if she is lynched and found to be innocent, then those who have pushed for her lynching to-Day look very suspicious. Indeed, the final two Wolves will almost certainly be among them. That would put Formendacil and arcticstorm in the frame, with mormegil's guilt or innocence being established to-Morrow when either he or Abercrombie is lynched (and both die).

With the mormegil-Abercrombie Hunter dispute, we have been handed a Wolf on a plate. We have one in the bag, as it were. However, the final Wolf was (or, if wilwa is innocent, the final two Wolves were) always going to be more difficult to find.

So, my proposal is as follows. We lynch wilwarin to-Day. I believe her to be guilty and, if she is, that's fine. In that case, I believe that arcticstorm and, in particular, Formendacil can be pretty much crossed off the Wolf list. If, on the other hand, she is innocent, I would pin them both as the Wolves (with either mormegil or Abercrombie being the other).

The only possible problem here is that if either Formendacil or arctistorm is a Wolf who has written off both wilwarin and mormegil/Abercrombie (whichever is the Wolf) and decided to go it alone. But we hit that problem anyway, even if we lynch mormegil to-Day and leave wilwarin until to-Morrow.

So I am toying with the idea of voting for wilwarin. That will not seal her fate, because there will then be on 4 votes each and morm, with the first vote of the Day, will be lynched. And I have doubts whether Alcarillo will turn up to vote. But if that happens, fine. We know that we will catch a Wolf one way or another if mormegil is lynched.

Thoughts anyone?

Alcarillo
10-06-2005, 05:09 PM
Three votes for morm, three votes for wilwa.

++morm

Well, it's most likely that:

1. He's a hunter, and he'll take AoR-wolf with him.
2. He's a hunter, and he'll take AoR-innocent with him.
3. He's a wolf.

Two ways we kill a wolf, one way we kill two innocents. A gamble, but I'll take it.

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 05:12 PM
Cross-posted with Azaelia (and morm). I had forgotten that she had not yet posted.

It looks like mormegil's fate is now sealed, as wilwa will not get more votes than him now, with only two votes to go, and morm got the first vote of the Day. If you are innocent, morm, you know what to do. You must kill Abercrombie. We must kill a Wolf to-Day if we lose the Hunter.

We can review wilwarin's case to-Morrow, although my current feeling is that we should lynch her and either kill a Wolf or learn some interesting things about Formendacil and arcticstorm.

mormegil
10-06-2005, 05:13 PM
*hands honorable mention to SpM* for his overly late yet progressive thinking.

I couldn't agree more SpM though it appears that Alcarillo sealed my fate.

mormegil
10-06-2005, 05:14 PM
I can still kill Wilwa if you think best, if you'd rather get that info. But as it stands I will go for AoR

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 05:16 PM
Now I have gone and cross-poste with Alcarillo. :eek:

(Good to see that you could make it to-Day, by the way. :rolleyes: )

Actually, Alc, when you voted it was 5 votes for mormegil and 3 votes for wilwarin. My vote will make no difference whatsoever. So I shall use it to put down a marker for to-Morrow.

++WILWARIN538

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 05:18 PM
I can still kill Wilwa if you think best, if you'd rather get that info. But as it stands I will go for AoR

No morm. If you are the Hunter, please take out Abercrombie. We need to kill a Wolf to-Day and that will be the only certain way of doing it.

My reasoning with regard to wilwa will still stand to-Morrow.

mormegil
10-06-2005, 05:20 PM
Fair enough. I will go sharpen my axe and skills and get ready for tonight.

And as far as my opinion matters after today I now think SpM to be innocent and cleared of all suspicion.

AbercrombieOfRohan
10-06-2005, 05:35 PM
Good-bye Morm-wolf!

The Saucepan Man
10-06-2005, 05:50 PM
Phew! All a bit of a scramble at the end there! I wish that I had returned earlier. And I wish in a way that we had lynched wilwarin because, either way, I think that it would have helped us in identifying the remaining Wolf or Wolves. Now the Wolves get to see my reasoning and have the opportunity to adjust their plans accordingly.

I think it quite likely that I shall die to-Night, being probably the most innocent looking one around here and (I hope) a pain in the Wolves’ furry necks. So I shall set out my thoughts on all the remaining villagers now, while I still can.

Boromir88: Early vote for mormegil, before we had much of a chance for discussion got me concerned about him again to-Day (having all but discounted him earlier). He still gets credit for having spotted the Seer’s message (although it remains uncertain whether he did so or not before the Cursed was taken) and for helping to nail Eomer-Wolf. If wilwarin is guilty, he could be the final Wolf. Do not discount him. He’s a shrewd one and would be more than capable of winning the game as a lone Wolf.

Wilwarin: I still strongly suspect her, for the reasons that I have given and that have been given by others. I suggest that, subject to any unexpected developments, she is lynched to-Morrow. The reasoning that I outlined above, with regard to Formendacil and arcticstorm will apply. If she’s innocent, one is most likely a Wolf, and quite possibly both. If not, they can probably (although not definitively) be trusted.

Formendacil: His fate now seems to me to be tied to that of wilwarin - see above. If he is a Wolf, Eomer’s responses to his early vote on Day 1 take on a fresh angle.

Mormegil: We will soon find out. I am grateful to you for having declared me cleared of all suspicion, but I am fearful that it may be a final message to your Wolf buddies advising them to take me out to-Night. If, on the other hand, you are the Hunter, I salute you for you will not have died in vain.

Abercrombie: If morm’s a Wolf, she’s the Hunter. If morm’s the Hunter, she dies.

Arctistorm: Same applies as with regard to Formendacil, although Formen was the most zealous of wilwa’s prosecutors to-Day.

Marcolie: I had thought her a possible Wolf at the outset of to-Day. Her contributions to-Day have lessened my suspicions of her, but she cannot be discounted completely.

Azaelia: I still believe that Cailin’s comments yester-Day indicate that she most probably dreamed of Azaelia and found her to be innocent. It’s still unclear to me whether that would have been before the transformation of the Cursed that Night. Unlikely to be a Wolf, but cannot be discounted completely either, since I may have read Cailin’s comments wrongly (or she may have transformed subsequent to Cailin dreaming about her).

Alcarillo: Who knows? I only wish that he would contribute more.

SpM: Probably Wolf-food tonight. They may leave me alone if they want to try to set me up to-Morrow, but there are more suspicious people round here than me right now, so probably not.

Cheerio! :smokin:

PS (edit): If either or both of mormegil and wilwarin are Wolves, it would speak in Alcarillo's favour as they targetted him yester-Day as the alternative lynchee to Eomer.

Márcolië Lamen
10-06-2005, 06:06 PM
Assuming nothing unexpected happens to prevent the lynching of wilwarin again, the only that might have been different is which of these two was lynched, and even that probably not so. Because of this I didn't think it'd be worth lynching wilwarin today. However if anyone could argue we should, because I see the point I'd half agree, it'd be SpM, too bad he didn't come in earlier.

However what is done is done. Hopefully we choose a wolf and not our hunter, though either way we'll at least be down one wolf.

Holbytlass
10-06-2005, 06:07 PM
*TIME*

warning; it is going to take me longer than usual to post the story.
~wolves can go ahead and pm each other

Holbytlass
10-06-2005, 07:13 PM
A soft early snow fell upon the land blanketing it in sparkles that bedazzled the eyes. Not much to do, the villagers gathered in the warmth of the Inn but not in the warmth of the company.

Morning was spent in greatfulness to Cailin the seer for her work in weeding out one of the beasts, with the cost of her own life. Songs of praise were sang. Attentions were also turned in analizing her words, for knowledge about a few more of villagers.

Talk turned to who the accomplices might be. One stood up straight and tall, "I am the hunter.", he proclaimed.

Another rose up fair and firm,"Thou speakest false, wolf, I am the hunter."

Silence ensued at the two proclaimers. One definitely lied, but which? And it was safe to assume that one truly was the hunter and one would be a wolf, for an ordinary person wouldn't dream of confusing the issue on purpose.

More talk, more deceit, and more votes. Mormegil-blacksmith specializing in weaponry was to be executed for his part in the nightly killings of innocents and his shameful attempt to desicrate the honorable position of hunter.

Most of the villagers praised Abercrombieof Rohan-anchoress for her bravery and fortitude in coming forth in righteousness to demask another wolf.
So they agreed that she should have the honor of taking him down.

The hunter and the false hunter, followed by the rest of the villagers, went outside faced each other and drew their weapons. One had a long sword and one had a double-bladed battle axe.

After the mandatory bow, they locked weapons in a fierce battle to the death: for life, for the dead, for the village.
Working their weapons, blocking, thrusting, swinging, they hit power for power. Rings of clashing metals, sweat dripping, up and down they tried to over power the other.

With a surge of adrenaline, and a cry, "Aure entuluva!!, the true hunter extended their arm slicing through the head of their opponent, the swing was so mighty it came full circle and sliced off the head of its beloved owner.


villagers:6
wolves:2

dead
Holby(mod) clawed from wolves night 1
Gil-Galad(Ordinary)shot by firing squad day1
Shelob(ordinary)killed by wolves jack-o-lantern style night2
The Perky Ent(ranger)executed by his sword day2
cursed villager transformed on night3
Eomer of the Rohirrim(wolf)whacked by lumberjack's axe day3
Cailin(seer)drowned bobbing for apples with eyes ripped out night 4
Mormegil(hunter)beheaded by his own ax in a battle to the death day 4
Abercrombie(wolf)beheaded by hunter in a battle to the death day4



living
Formendacil
Wilwarin
Saucepan Man
Arcticstorm
Alcarillo
Marcolie
Azaelia
Boromir

Holbytlass
10-07-2005, 05:48 PM
The villagers had watched, mesmerized by the prowess of the small fair-haired maiden fighting for them all against an equally masterful blacksmith. A battle that seemed to last forever but came to an ubrupt end when the blacksmith removed the anchoress' head and his own.

In that instant, they both showed their true colors, Mormegil- a faint etheral glow that transcends time and Abercrombie- a faint evil glint in the eye and a furry face.

"That certainly explains her strength," one commented, "And isn't Morm known to be the best hunter in these parts? His larder is always full of meat. How did we miss that?"

Though the villagers felt guilty about their grave mistake, they bore him in honor also, for his sacrifice in taking down a wolf despite all the harsh words and accusations toward him.

After many hours of celebrating the true hunter's victory, the two remaining wolves snuck out without notice to do a bit of planning for a 'celebration' of their own. They were grateful for the sacrifice of their own wolf for having befuddled the villagers and getting the hunter out of the picture. But now it was time to exact revenge in a most diabolical way imaginable.....

The villagers all lined up in the morning for the head count, another shock, they were all there.

Then a gut-wrenching yell came from one of them. The one was doubled over wrything in pain. The others rushed over and laid the one on their back. A horrible sight played before them, a bubbly, foamy liquid burned its way out of the stomach. With a final yell, the villager was dead.

The rest ran to the one's cabin, on a thorough search, it was finally found, a jug of the finest home-brewed "Mornin' Mash" on the breakfast table with acidic poison in it.

villagers:5
wolves:2

dead
Holby(mod) clawed from wolves night 1
Gil-Galad(Ordinary)shot by firing squad day1
Shelob(ordinary)killed by wolves jack-o-lantern style night2
The Perky Ent(ranger)executed by his sword day2
cursed villager transformed on night3
Eomer of the Rohirrim(wolf)whacked by lumberjack's axe day3
Cailin(seer)drowned bobbing for apples with eyes ripped out night 4
Mormegil(hunter)beheaded by his own ax in a battle to the death day 4
Abercrombie(wolf)beheaded by hunter in a battle to the death day4
SaucepanMan(ordinary)poisoned on night5


living
Formendacil
Wilwarin
Arcticstorm
Alcarillo
Marcolie
Azaelia
Boromir

~sorry for the early start, will still be stopping 8:00 (in 24 hours time)
~wolves stop P.M.

Márcolië Lamen
10-07-2005, 06:41 PM
Its early, but I am not going to go a day without voting, and I am not going to be around at all tomarrow, and until I vote I'll be distracted from the homework thats due at Midnight today. So without further ado, the extremely early vote for

++Wilwarin


oh and a request to the wolves PLEASE eat me. I need to get out of the game, I have finals starting Tuesday as well as other work and need out so that I actually do my work.

--------------------------------------------------

*starts singing*

'To-morrow is Saint Valentine's day,
All in the morning betime,
And I a maid at your window,
To be your Valentine.
Then up he rose, and donn'd his clothes,
And dupp'd the chamber-door;
Let in the maid, that out a maid
Never departed more.'*







*credited to Ophlia from Shakespeare's Hamlet

Formendacil
10-07-2005, 09:05 PM
And so, Saucepan Man is dead... And with his and Mormegil's close-related deaths, the village loses two of it's most vocal remaining villagers...

Two wolves down, and two wolves left... And Marcolie has already voted that Wilwarin be executed.

And, truth be told, I still think her guilty. But we must remember that there are TWO Werewolves at large. Who is this other, this fourth wolf? It's all very well to vote off Wilwa ASAP, but we ought to give thought to this fourth...

And right now, I think it to be one the three "A" names on our list: Azaelia, Alcarillo, or Arcticstorm. Boromir and Marcolie, while not entirely exonerated in my mind, are a good deal less suspicious. Boromir COULD, however, be one of the guilty party. He did, after all, open early yesterday with a vote against Mormegil, and if he was a wolf, he would have known AoR was not the Hunter, but one of his nefarious kin... Still, I don't harbour strong suspicions of Boro.

And my suspicions are the 3 "A"s, but it's mainly because the three of them have been keeping a rather low profile lately. It's really more of a suspicion based on omission than a suspicion based on evidence.

Which basically means that, other than Wilwa, I am hesitant to condemn anybody.

Boromir88
10-07-2005, 09:54 PM
I will say mormegil was right about one thing, I'm going to be eating my words, and do I sure feel like an idiot. Anyway, I'll be back, this death is rather a surprising one.

I'm glad I denied Abercrombie from a deprogramming one time, since she didn't have enough money for it. I would have been wolf-food for sure then.

Boromir88
10-08-2005, 08:39 AM
Wow, this quietness is really starting to scare me. Why won't anyone talk! My brain is going to blow!

I have news for you all,...I'm the hunter! Anyone want to challenge me? :p Ok, seriously now, there's a wolf to find.

The Votes yesterday:

Boromir for Mormegil (Morm: 1)
Wilwarin for Mormegil (morm: 2)
Formendacil for wilwarin (morm: 2; wilwa: 1)
mormegil for wilwarin (morm: 2; wilwa: 2)
Abercrombie for mormegil (morm: 3; wilwa: 2)
arctic for wilwarin (morm:3; wilwa: 3)
Marcolie for mormegil (morm: 4; wilwa: 3)
Azaelia for mormegil (morm: 5; wilwa: 3)
Alcarillo for mormegil (morm: 6; wilwa: 3)
Sauce for wilwarin (morm: 6; wilwa: 4)

I tip my hat to morm for making me eat my words and dragging a wolf down with him. Wow, what are these wolves coming to? Sacrificial and Suicidal, most unusual, but they did get our last gifted. I think we could tell a lot from voting.

I'm already suspicious of Wilwarin's vote. Seemed like she was trying to get morm dead and hanged. Now it may seem like I did the same thing, but I was foolishly fooled by Abercrombie the real wolf, because I would not think a wolf would come out and do such a thing, but obviously one did. I've been fooled by these creatures on a few occasions, but this was the most shocking.

Not only is wilwarin's vote suspicious, but so is Abercrombie and it may go to incriminate wilwa. Abercrombie of course votes the expected way, and breaks the tie, just as anti-wilwa sentiment begins to grow.

If wilwa's a wolf I seriously doubt Formendacil and arctic are wolves (though I still wouldn't put it past me, I don't want to eat my words again).

Marcolie's vote is slightly suspicious in breaking the tie, but I'm more suspicious of Azaelia and Alcarillo who sealed mormegil's fate, and added the stamp of approval.

That's from voting yesterday.

Formendacil-
Suspected: Azaelia, Wilwarin
Voted for: Wilwarin

Wilwarin-
Supsected: morm
Voted: morm

arctic-
Suspected: wilwarin
voted: wilwarin

Alcarillo-
Suspected: no one
voted for: mormegil

Marcolie-
Suspected: wilwarin, morm
voted: morm

Azaelia-
Suspected: morm
voted: morm

Sauce-
Suspected: morm, wilwarin
voted: wilwarin

mormegil-
Suspected: Abercrombie, wilwarin, Boromir
voted: wilwarin

I see wilwarin's name a lot, and it's probably the person I'll be voting for today, unless anything dramatically changes (judging by posts so far I doubt it! Talk!) I also won't vote so darn early (cheers in background). But wilwarin is pretty incriminating right now, with her vote, Abercrombies vote, and all this other stuff.

Even when she did vote for mormegil, after me, she said two lines on she believed he was lying and then the rest went to say she was sorry for voting for Perky.

If wilwa's a wolf, I doubt Formendacil is one. What about arctic? I'm still mildly suspicious of him, even with his vote for wilwa tying things up. He could have known that the remaining voters were going to vote for mormegil. But, I doubt it.

Alcarillo puzzles me. Barely says anything, doesn't vote occasionally, doesn't say what he thinks a lot, or his suspects. With time running down, my suspicions of him grow.

I'm not convinced by Azaelia's innocence either. Her vote for morm sealed his fate.

So...

1) wilwarin
2) Alcarillo/Azaelia

arcticstorm
10-08-2005, 10:44 AM
WHy is everyone so quiet today? It would seem like now more than ever we need to compile our ideas to quickly find those last two wolves. I thought yesterday that Morm was telling the truth, but Iam a little saddened to find out that he was. We could have used our hunter later on. BUt at least another of those lupines was taken down with him. Wilwa seems to be the most suspicious to me today, follwed by Azaelia. They have been on almost everyone's suspicion lists since day 1, yet they are still here. It will be rather embaressing if they turn out to be wolves and we just wouldn't vote for them before. But we only have two more chances at this. If we lynch innocents today and tomorrow those lupinious fiends will destroy our village. I will probably vote for Wilwa again today and pray that she is indeed one of our wolves.

Formendacil
10-08-2005, 10:57 AM
Wow, this quietness is really starting to scare me. Why won't anyone talk! My brain is going to blow!

You be right... the village is as silent as the tomb. Almost. T'is only you and I thus far, Master Boromir, and other than Marcolie's early accusation, there hasn't been a peep out of anyone else...

Boromir: As noted, I don't really suspect him. I'm not sure why... He DID try and get Mormegil lynched yesterday. In fact, he was the one who started off the voting- for Mormegil. However, that really doesn't prove anything. I leant towards suspecting Morm myself, over AoR.

Wilwarin: Still my main target. Based on pre-yesterday experience, she was very Wolfish. And the fact that she got the bandwaggon rolling for Mormegil only adds to the suspicion. As we all know through the painful glare of hindsight, Morm was our hunter. Wilwa consequently remains at the top of my suspects list, and if my life is now tied to her fate, then so be it.

Marcolie: Seems like an innocent. Her vote this morning smacks of mine (for her, I remember bemusedly) back on Day 1. However, it seems a good deal more guided. Is it an attempt by a wolf who will be missing to carefully stay unsuspicious? Somehow, I think not. Personally, I think that she is an innocent villager.

I have news for you all,...I'm the hunter! Anyone want to challenge me? :p Ok, seriously now, there's a wolf to find.

arctic, Azaelia, and Alcarillo: I really don't know what to make of any of these... Their lack of posting today is most suspicious. If Wilwa is one of the two remaining Werewolves, then who is the other?

Arcticstorm suspected Wilwa and voted for Wilwa yesterday, at a fairly early point, when the voting could easily have switched to a Wilwa defeat. On the other hand, the big issue of the day was "Who is the Hunter?" and the voting seemed designed to strike in that direction, thus making an anti-Wilwa vote rather unlikely. Difficult to say...

Azaelia has seemed suspicious to me before. But it isn't so much WHAT she says, as that she says very little, and maybe what little she says is rather suspicious. I don't know... It's more feeling that based on evidence. However, looking at yesterday's evidence, Azaelia voted against Mormegil, her vote giving him the killing blow (his fifth vote out of ten). Coupled with my suspicious feeling, this looks bad to me, but isn't really enough to call for action.

Alcarillo's vote yesterday was a throwaway. He voted for Morm after he was already convicted, de facto. Was this a ploy to play along with the bandwaggon? Or was this an innocent villager jumping on the bandwaggon? Of these three "A"s, Alcarillo is the hardest to read...

So there we are... My vote for today seems rather clear-cut, but I am troubled by the absences of four of our players (including the one I keep accusing). Furthermore, there will still remain a fourth wolf if we lynch the third tonight. Some thought should be given to that...

NOTE: Crossposting with Arcticstorm.

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-08-2005, 11:43 AM
Sorry, all. I had SATs all morning. ick.

[quote=boro] I'm not convinced by Azaelia's innocence either. Her vote for morm sealed his fate. [/b]

I don't understand how my vote for Morm sealed his fate. There were two others who voted after I did. And had they voted for Wilwa, there would have been a tie in voting. And Boromir who led the voting by posting a vote for Morm would have sealed his fate since in a tie, the first person voted for dies.

I thought for sure I was right yesterDay. So did a lot of people, based on the clear majority. But my vote seems to be always wrong.

I have no idea who to suspect today.

Boromir88
10-08-2005, 12:23 PM
I don't understand how my vote for Morm sealed his fate. There were two others who voted after I did. And had they voted for Wilwa, there would have been a tie in voting. And Boromir who led the voting by posting a vote for Morm would have sealed his fate since in a tie, the first person voted for dies.
Yeah, your vote sealed his fate. It just so happens I voted for him first, but you put it out of reach with your vote. My vote wouldn't be sealing his fate, because that I was the first to vote, a lot of voting to go around still.

But my vote seems to be always wrong.
That's what's scary. :p

Formendacil
10-08-2005, 12:59 PM
I don't understand how my vote for Morm sealed his fate. There were two others who voted after I did. And had they voted for Wilwa, there would have been a tie in voting. And Boromir who led the voting by posting a vote for Morm would have sealed his fate since in a tie, the first person voted for dies.

As I noted in my post previous, your vote was the Fifth one cast for Mormegil yesterday. As there were ten people left alive, your vote meant that Mormegil had half the votes- which was a conviction, because even a tie would have meant his death, since in the event of a tie, the first one to the full number is lynched.

Well, things are really moving along sluggishly today. Some people- almost everybody- seems to be trying to fly under the radar.

So enough with trying to draw conclusions about Werewolf IV, I'm voting for Werewolf III:

++Wilwarin538

And as note to the village: Mormegil also thought Wilwa was a Werewolf. A nice thought for one who's fate is dependent on her being proven a Werewolf.

Formendacil
10-08-2005, 02:39 PM
Only three hours until the end of the Day, and this is only the 10th post... We are feeling Sauce's loss greatly.

Is it the weekend? Are people hiding undercover?

This is only my 4th post, and I feel like I am the new Sauce, Eomer, Mormegil combo...

Not a word out of Wilwa. I can only assume that she knows she is going to die, and somehow hopes to avoid it by lying low...

T'is a cold day, a dark day.

I do not like it.

arcticstorm
10-08-2005, 02:43 PM
I wish we would hear something from our remaining villagers, we only have two chances left, if Wilwa is innocent, we have to catch a wolf tomorrow, if she is guilty we have a little more leeway, however, I do not think I can wait much longer to cast my vote. I will wait a little longer to see if anybody says anything, but if no one comes forward to defend her, I will vote for Wilwa again, and I pray she is guilty.

Boromir88
10-08-2005, 03:13 PM
This super quietness is driving me mad. Actually, Form, I fully suspect to get whacked tonight. :) It wouldn't surprise me if I do.

++Wilwarin

I won't be around for the rest of the day, and I haven't seen anything to change my mind, or anything from wilwarin, Alcarillo, or Marcolie.

So, before I go here's my final thoughts on everyone.

Formendacil- Not too suspicious, and if Wilwarin turns out to be a wolf, I would go as far to say I'm sure he's innocent.

arctic- atleast trying to help out today with all this quiet shushiness. I suspect most the ones who are being quiet.

Alcarillo- Growingly suspicious, continues to be quiet, continues to say little and mostly just seems to go along with people.

Azaelia- Another one growingly suspicious, especially trying to say her vote wasn't the tying knot in mormegil's death and trying to say it was all my fault. :rolleyes:

wilwarin- I voted for her. What else is there to say besides she's a wolf?

Marcolie- Another one I wouldn't say is too suspicious, but has been quiet today, which gets me suspicious and one to keep an eye on closely.

So in order of most suspicious to least...

1) Wilwarin
2) Azaelia
3) Alcarillo
4) Marcolie
5) Arctic
6) Formendacil
7) Me

arcticstorm
10-08-2005, 03:35 PM
As it looks like no one else is going to speak up I have no choice but to cast my vote for
++Wilwarin

wilwarin538
10-08-2005, 04:02 PM
I don't know what to say. Except that you are making a mistake. I supose its my own fault though, I didn't really take this as seriuosly as I should have. I'm not even going to bother voting, since I'm always voting for the wrong person.

I also just want you to know that I think that eather or both Formen and Zali are wolves.

Good luck with the rest of the game! I might as well say now that I forgive all those who vote for me.

Alcarillo
10-08-2005, 04:59 PM
Today certainly has been quiet, but I suppose now I'm being a hypocrite. ;) Anyways, it look's like Wilwa's fate is sealed. But I'd say that either Arctic or Azaelia is a wolf. I would say that they are the two wolves left, and Azaelia is more likely one than Arctic. So, just to acknowledge who I think is a wolf:

++Azaelia of Willowbottom

Now, I have no way of convincing you that I am not a wolf besides my word as an honest silversmith.

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-08-2005, 05:49 PM
Well, my prospects are looking rather grim in terms of what happens tomorrow. I am innocent. Fine, lynch me the next chance you get, and see where it gets you. Nowhere. I don't understand why everyone is so convinced everything is my fault. I'm sorry if I sound disgruntled. It's because I am. It's very frustrating to know that you're innocent but also know that nothing you do or say is going to lift the suspicion that has been put upon you.

I simply thought Morm was a wolf. So did six (? I can't count) other people. Just because my vote happened to hold the special fifth place doesn't mean that I am a wolf. I didn't go back and count and say "oh! I am sealing Morm's fate!" How am I supposed to know he was innocent? Certainly no one else did at the time. I thought "Both he and Abercrombie seem suspicious to me, but he seems the most suspicious of the two".

Here is my not-so-special 5th place vote again.

++ Wilwa

Her fate is already sealed, and of us all, she seems the most likely to be a wolf. I hope for all of our sakes she is a wolf, but whichever she is, I am pretty much as good as dead anyway. :p

If, on the off-chance, you're innocent, Wilwa, Please forgive my vote and take solace in knowing that Wrong-Way Azaelia will most likely soon join you. ;)

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-08-2005, 05:53 PM
Looking back, I realized I sounded really grumpy in the last post I made. I'm sorry, everyone. I'm just very frustrated. :p I don't mean to attack anyone personally. And the word "attack" was just used in a completely innocent fashion :p

Holbytlass
10-08-2005, 05:55 PM
*TIME* all votes in (Wilwa said she wasn't voting)

Holbytlass
10-08-2005, 06:13 PM
The early snow had melted through out the day, mixing bitter cold mud and dried out leaves fallen from the barren trees. Most of the day was again spent helping the cemetary keeper dig graves. There were so many to bury and so few left to help.

The deceased were given their proper respect and goodbyes then laid to rest. Eomer and Abercrombie, the former wolves, were burned on a funeral pyre. They would not be laid in hallowed ground because of their horrific crimes but they were still mourned because of who they were before the evil befell the island.

Few words were spoken even from the condemned.
"I don't know what to say, I have been quiet but that doesn't mean I am a wolf! See, I have been sketching all that's been happening." said Wilwarin. And true enough she produced piles of sketches, of the talk, of the dead, of the voting, of all what was happening around her.

"These are good, these are very good. But they will not save you from death, just because you drew these doesn't mean you didn't have a paw in it!"

A few held on tight to Wilwarin and brought her outside when someone yelled "Pan for everyone!"*
"Pan?! does that mean you want to break bread with me?", asked a confused Wilwarin.
"Oh, we'll beak something with you but it won't be bread."

A couple of them ran into the Inn's kitchen and brought out pans and skillets, enough for everyone to beat Wilwarin with.

And beat her they did.

Her bruised and broken body lay in the mud. Had the villagers become as maniacal as the wolves?


villagers:4
wolves:2

dead
Holby(mod) clawed from wolves night 1
Gil-Galad(Ordinary)shot by firing squad day1
Shelob(ordinary)killed by wolves jack-o-lantern style night2
The Perky Ent(ranger)executed by his sword day2
cursed villager transformed on night3
Eomer of the Rohirrim(wolf)whacked by lumberjack's axe day3
Cailin(seer)drowned bobbing for apples with eyes ripped out night 4
Mormegil(hunter)beheaded by his own ax in a battle to the death day 4
Abercrombie(wolf)beheaded by hunter in a battle to the death day4
SaucepanMan(ordinary)poisoned on night5
Wilwarin(ordinary)'panned' to death day5

living
Formendacil
Arcticstorm
Alcarillo
Marcolie
Azaelia
Boromir

~wolves P.M.

*Used with permission from Shelob

Holbytlass
10-09-2005, 05:56 PM
The mud was already dryingout making toNIGHT's kill a bit easier. The night before the wolves had to run to each home and business criss-crossing so none could follow their tracks in the snow.

If things went right tomorrow as it did yesterday, they could openly attack the few remaining villagers. Victory was so close they could almost taste it, running their tongues along their fangs indecently.

Enough fantasizing, they had to plan tonight's kill...

Not realizing at first what woke them up, the villagers laid in the inky black, then their noses smarted and their eyes watered. FIRE! And a wild fire on an island is never good. They ran out ready to fight the blaze but were relieved to find the fire contained in a bon.

Their relief was short-lived when on closer inspection they found the bonfire to be comprised of books and the editor bound and gagged on top. Nothing could be done, the editor was already dead.The sick irony was not lost upon the villagers when they remembered it was November 5th (http://www.bonefire.org/guy/).



villagers:3
wolves:2

dead
Holby(mod) clawed from wolves night 1
Gil-Galad(Ordinary)shot by firing squad day1
Shelob(ordinary)killed by wolves jack-o-lantern style night2
The Perky Ent(ranger)executed by his sword day2
cursed villager transformed on night3
Eomer of the Rohirrim(wolf)whacked by lumberjack's axe day3
Cailin(seer)drowned bobbing for apples with eyes ripped out night 4
Mormegil(hunter)beheaded by his own ax in a battle to the death day 4
Abercrombie(wolf)beheaded by hunter in a battle to the death day4
SaucepanMan(ordinary)poisoned on night5
Wilwarin(ordinary)'panned' to death day5
Marcolie(ordinary)got 'fawkesed' on night6

living Formendacil
Arcticstorm
Alcarillo
Azaelia
Boromir

__________________

Formendacil
10-09-2005, 07:35 PM
Three innocent villagers and two werewolves...

And at the end of today, another person will be dead. One can hope that it will be a Werewolf, but if it isn't...

Another villager will be killed tonight. In other words, unless we get one of the Werewolves today, we're goners. The Werewolves will lose, because tomorrow there will be two Werewolves and one villager.

Unfortunately, I'm looking at this situation, and I think the villagers can almost concede a loss. The last two days I have tried incredibly hard to have Wilwa executed. And, yesterday, she was. And to my chagrin, she has proven to have been innocent.

So I must eat my words, and- in all probability- face my fate. So be it. I will go, accepting the consequences of my actions, knowing that with my death, the village is fated to lose another innocent- and so lose everything. If these be my last hours, then I shall spend them trying to figure out who the two Werewolves are.

I shall at least know one, I hope, ere I die.

arcticstorm
10-09-2005, 09:04 PM
not again!!
3 hours in and our village is deathly silent, come on people we cannot aford any bad moves because of silence, it is time for the entire village to step up and start figuring this riddle out, I am currently leaning toward Azaelia and Formendacil, but I am not 100% sure I will go analyze all votes from day 1 until now and post my findings

Formendacil
10-09-2005, 11:06 PM
not again!!
3 hours in and our village is deathly silent, come on people we cannot aford any bad moves because of silence, it is time for the entire village to step up and start figuring this riddle out, I am currently leaning toward Azaelia and Formendacil, but I am not 100% sure I will go analyze all votes from day 1 until now and post my findings


Cannot afford bad moves? Or simply are posting at their normal rate...

This is my typical mode, or would be if I had managed to acquire one: on every hour or two, then off for the night, back on just before noon, and then close to hourly for the rest of the day...

My point is that it seems to me that the main reason for the stifling silence in the village is the lack of our vocal villagers. Saucepan Man, Eomer, and Morm were our loudmouths. With them gone, we not only lose the most noisy villagers, but also the main instigators of replies....

All the same, I agree with you that it is suspicious, even if a rational excuse can be thought of.

A pity that you find me suspicious, but I really can't complain, after my anti-Wilwa rage the last couple days. And while I suppose that you can't take my word for anything anymore, I must say that I agree with you that Azaelia looks quite suspicious. I've been saying that for a few days though, without really acting on it or thinking about it, and after the rest of my poor voting decisions since this started, I don't think that I'm necessarily a good person to be listening too...

The way I've been voting, I should almost have been a Cobbler!

Regardless of that, I still think Azaelia the most suspicious of those remaining, and with a 50/50 chance of guessing at one of the Wolves, I may as well stick with her for now...

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-10-2005, 06:43 AM
Listen up, everyone. I am an innocent villager who has consistently made bad choices. I mean it. I have always voted the wrong way, posted the wrong way, etc. But there are three villagers and two werewolves left. If you kill me, you will lose. Because I am innocent. And if the number of innocents and the number of werewolves becomes equal, all innocents will die and the wolves will win. If I die today, the wolves will unmask themselves and kill everyone.

I know that sounds like a dire threat: "Don't kill me or else!" but it is true. If I die, wolves win. It's that simple. We have to kill a wolf today, so please please please don't make the wrong choice here.

arcticstorm
10-10-2005, 09:04 AM
ok here is the voting situation for all 5 days

Day 1
Formendacil: Marcolie Lamen (innocent)
Boromir: Wilwa (innocent)
Azaelia: Gil (innocent)
Alcarillo: Gil (innocent)
Arctic (did not vote)

Day 2
Alcarillo: Perky (Ranger)
Boromir: Sauce (innocent)
Azaelia: Sauce (innocent)
Arctic: Perky (Ranger)
Form: Azaelia (unknown)


Day 3
Boromir: Eomer (wolf)
Arcticstorm: Eomer (wolf:condemned)
Azaelia: Eomer (wolf)
Formendacil: Sauce (innocent)
Alcarillo ( did not vote)

Day 4
Boromir: Morm (Hunter)
Formendacil: Wilwa (innocent)
Arctic: Wilwa (innocent)
Azaelia: Morm (Hunter)
Alcarillo: Morm (Hunter)

Day 5
Form: Wilwa (innocent)
Boromir: Wilwa (Innocent)
Arctic: Wilwa (innocent)
Alcarillo: Azaelia (unknown)
Azaelia: Wilwa (Innocent)

Boromir88
10-10-2005, 11:35 AM
I happen to believe Azaelia. I'm innocent to, believe me or not, If Im lynched, it's over for the innocents, I believe Azaelia when she says this.

Which leaves artic, Form, Alcarillo. I think Arctic and Form are our wolves. Yes, the very people I wasn't that suspicious yesterday. But, these two seem to be talking the most in the later days (mostly because I haven't been around a lot). But, I declare...these two are running the show!

See, I wonder why I haven't been killed yet, and it's becase I've been totally wrong the whole time. The wolves wouldn't kill me unless if I was onto them, as long as I wasn't pointing the finger at them, they would keep me alive, knowing I wouldn't be any harm. But, now my fellow villagers, Form and Arctic are wolves!

Formendacil
10-10-2005, 11:40 AM
Listen up, everyone. I am an innocent villager who has consistently made bad choices. I mean it. I have always voted the wrong way, posted the wrong way, etc. But there are three villagers and two werewolves left. If you kill me, you will lose. Because I am innocent. And if the number of innocents and the number of werewolves becomes equal, all innocents will die and the wolves will win. If I die today, the wolves will unmask themselves and kill everyone.

I know that sounds like a dire threat: "Don't kill me or else!" but it is true. If I die, wolves win. It's that simple. We have to kill a wolf today, so please please please don't make the wrong choice here.


And if I die, the Wolves win...

Your defense sounds exactly like mine. And while I can't convince anyone, perhaps, that I am not a wolf, that doesn't mean I have to be taken in.

So I think I'll stick with the gut instincts I've been having for days, and view you as one of the Wolves. Maybe this time my suspicions will be correct...

For what it's worth, though, of the five remaining, each of us has consistently been voting for the wrong people. There are only a few votes in Alcarillo's list that actually went to a Werewolf. No wonder the wolves kept the three of us around.

And for the other wolf, I'm really starting to suspect Boromir. He started off the voting against Morm two days ago, and was very quick to defend himself yesterday. Furthermore, he was more than willing yesterday to go along with the anti-Wilwa bandwaggon I had going.

On the basis of Alcarillo having been the only one yesterday to vote for an unknown, and not Wilwa, as well as having voted against Eomer, where I at least did not, I am tempted to think him one of the innocent villagers. But not convinced.

And that leaves Arcticstorm... He seems more a Wolf than not, just because he's consistently kept a low profile, and then popped up with some innocent-seeming statement that diverted suspicion....

So that leaves me with THREE people I suspect as wolves, and one of them is definitely a villager, and quite possibly two of them are. This is a serious dilemma.

Boromir88
10-10-2005, 11:46 AM
And for the other wolf, I'm really starting to suspect Boromir. He started off the voting against Morm two days ago, and was very quick to defend himself yesterday. Furthermore, he was more than willing yesterday to go along with the anti-Wilwa bandwaggon I had going.
Who jumped on who's bandwagon? I've announced suspicions on Wilwarin since Day 1, not like I suddenly followed you.

On the basis of Alcarillo having been the only one yesterday to vote for an unknown, and not Wilwa,
That could be an attempt of a wolf to keep his hands clean in the day and not at night. Only wolves would know of Wilwarin's innocence.

Formendacil
10-10-2005, 11:49 AM
Who jumped on who's bandwagon? I've announced suspicions on Wilwarin since Day 1, not like I suddenly followed you.

True, perhaps. But if my fate was tied to Wilwa's being a wolf, I don't see that it was necessarily tied any tighter than yours...

That could be an attempt of a wolf to keep his hands clean in the day and not at night. Only wolves would know of Wilwarin's innocence.

That's the part of this whole business that scares me! There isn't anyone left who seems reasonably free of suspicion. I'm not such a fool to see that I'm under suspicion- although I am innocent. Of course, two other people are innocent, and I'm suspecting one or both of them of being Wolves...

arcticstorm
10-10-2005, 12:22 PM
Which leaves artic, Form, Alcarillo. I think Arctic and Form are our wolves. Yes, the very people I wasn't that suspicious yesterday. But, these two seem to be talking the most in the later days (mostly because I haven't been around a lot). But, I declare...these two are running the show!


yes it is true we are running the show, but I find that more of an advantage than a disadvantage. I started trying to pick up the slack when our top villagers were all killed. We just needed to keep going. And as evindenced over yesterday and today, wee are being too quiet. Every person left in the village could very easily be wolves, that is why I think these 5 members were left alive. But which two are they?
FOrmendacil, seemed to be leading the attack on Wilwa for the last two days and with the exception of the day he voted for Azaelia voted for innocents who areknown now.
Boromir has been attacking Wilwa since day 1, and has been one of the first few to vote since the beginning
Alcarillo has been silent the entire time and as such has drawn a lot of suspicion.
Azaelia has been extremely quiet the whole time, and with the exception of the Eomer bandwaggom has not really helped catch a wolf
Arcticstorm has been quiet a lot, sometimes he has spoken up. That is just who I am. I have been drawing suspicion off and on and have made some really stupid votes to defend Sauce and Morm. He was dran into the sweet sounding argument against Wilwa and has drawn suspicion from helping lead that.

so as you can see any two of us 5 could be wolves. I am currently leaning toward Formendacil as one, and I am not as sure about the second one now,

Alcarillo
10-10-2005, 02:11 PM
Alas, if we do not lynch a werewolf today, our village shall be doomed.

I agree with Boro that our wolves are probably Formendacil and Arctic, but I am still having qualms about Azaelia. The only person I think could not possibly be guilty is Boro.

Formendacil
10-10-2005, 03:06 PM
I agree with Boro that our wolves are probably Formendacil and Arctic, but I am still having qualms about Azaelia. The only person I think could not possibly be guilty is Boro.

Somehow, those words sound ominous to me....

I've been trusting Boromir since pretty much the beginning, so I'd hate to be wrong, AGAIN, about someone, but his behaviour is starting to look like that of a Werewolf... What if HE was the Cursed One? He would have had a great innocent reputation to thrive on since the beginning...

I'm so confused right now. Everyone looks suspicious to me, and short of a mass lynching (which isn't allowed anyway), we can't vote off EVERYBODY...

Boromir88
10-10-2005, 03:46 PM
I've been trusting Boromir since pretty much the beginning, so I'd hate to be wrong, AGAIN, about someone, but his behaviour is starting to look like that of a Werewolf... What if HE was the Cursed One? He would have had a great innocent reputation to thrive on since the beginning...
I'm innocent. Lynch me, it's over for the villagers.

I'm so confused right now. Everyone looks suspicious to me, and short of a mass lynching (which isn't allowed anyway), we can't vote off EVERYBODY...
Aren't we all, ahhh, I hate being an ordinary.

Very tough decision today. It's probably about time for me to vote, this has got to be the most difficult decision I've made.

I would think that wolves being so close to victory would try to sway opinion late in the game (Formendacil and arctic), but then again, Alcarillo jumps out as being a possible wolf, as jumping onto suspects as long as it's not him and another wolf. And we can never exclude out Azaelia, despite me being swayed by her words, it will definitely be the biggest fool that has been every pulled over me.

But, I'm going to be confident in my decision today and say that, as of right now 2 of these 3 are wolves:
Alcarillo
Formendacil
Arctic

And today I'm going after ++arctic who I think may be the ex-cursed.

Formendacil
10-10-2005, 04:24 PM
Cry havoc! And let slip the votes of War!

The die is cast... We have less than an hour and a half (as of posting), from when this day is over...

I'm totally lost. Everyone looks suspicious! I'm starting to suspect even myself, and I KNOW what I am (or do I? I deleted Holby's PM...).

Boromir has voted for one of my (slightly) stronger suspects, and with a loss of direction, I'll join him and vote:

++Arcticstorm

And may Eru have mercy on my soul!

arcticstorm
10-10-2005, 05:10 PM
I am going to vote today for ++Formendacil

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-10-2005, 05:24 PM
Oh dear, what a decision to make... I am *inclined* to think Boromir is innocent, but my suspicions and feelings are so often wrong. At any rate, I will not be voting for him tonight, because there are others that I find more suspicious.

This is a difficult vote to make because our survival depends upon it. The point is long past in which if we voted for the wrong person, it was a problem but not a fatal one. This time, if I pick the wrong person, we'll be dead...

Arcticstorm and Formendacil have been on my suspect list for a while...and today I will hold my breath, cross my fingers, and pray for all our sakes that

++Arctic

is a wolf, because I have just tipped the balance.

Alcarillo
10-10-2005, 05:30 PM
Time to join the bandwagon!

++arcticstorm

Holbytlass
10-10-2005, 06:20 PM
If victory, for the wolves, could be tasted then stress, for the innocents, could be felt. Little had been said, if ever they came together to talk. They were all on edge, nobody sure of what to do, it just seemed who ever voted first the others followed, even more unsettling was the one sealing someone's fate.

The villagers were almost completely lethargic, having lost so much to the vile beasts, it seemed easier to just let them take over and be done. The merest spark of hope, though, remained in their hearts. It was small but could not be extinguished. So they cast their votes, the majority for Arcticstorm-preacher.

The four walked over to the little chapel where they found Arctic tidying things up. He looked up in shock, "What do you mean I'm to be executed? I'm a man of the church!"
"That doesn't mean much anymore, remember the anchoress, she turned out to be a wolf." someone responded.
"Yes, but she was an S.A.E. (self appointed expert), whereas I'm degreed." said Arctic.
"That just means you're the smart alpha wolf!" came the retort.
"No! I'm no wolf!", the preacher insisted, as he backed away from the others, "please, for all our sakes, don't do this!"

But it was too late, the tiny flame of hope and self preservation flared up in each of them. They lunged at Arctic tackling him to the floor, one on top choking him, the others getting in kicks when they could. Something flared in Arcticstorm as well, snarls and spittle issued form his elongated mouth and his ferocious wolf strength was about to throw them all off when one of the villagers plunged a knife into the side of his neck spewing arterial spray all over the holy site.


villagers:3
wolves:1

dead
Holby(mod) clawed from wolves night 1
Gil-Galad(Ordinary)shot by firing squad day1
Shelob(ordinary)killed by wolves jack-o-lantern style night2
The Perky Ent(ranger)executed by his sword day2
cursed villager transformed on night3
Eomer of the Rohirrim(wolf)whacked by lumberjack's axe day3
Cailin(seer)drowned bobbing for apples with eyes ripped out night 4
Mormegil(hunter)beheaded by his own ax in a battle to the death day 4
Abercrombie(wolf)beheaded by hunter in a battle to the death day4
SaucepanMan(ordinary)poisoned on night5
Wilwarin(ordinary)'panned' to death day5
Marcolie(ordinary)got 'fawkesed' on night6
Arcticstorm(wolf)knifed and choked day6

living
Formendacil
Alcarillo
Azaelia
Boromir

Holbytlass
10-11-2005, 05:24 PM
The wolf was rather pleased with itself, to be the last of its kind still standing. Tonight's kill will be the appetizer to tomorrow's feast, and there will be no sharing. The wolf could take its time in choosing, each possible victim had its own merrits. Finally one was chosen and the wolf set out.....

In the morning, not surprising only three came together, all of their appearances were rathing shocking. The last fortnight had taken its toll. They were dishevelled, gaunt faces with hollowed cheeks, eyes darting in constant vigilance and the blood of the preacher-wolf still on them.

They kept their distance from each other but still within view as they went to look for the missing one. Upon entering the house, there was an almost cherubic scene before them, the one lay as a small child does, legs tucked under and hands nestled under their cheek. Oddly though, the one was lying in a ginormous roaster pan and an apple shoved in its mouth.

The villagers rolled the one over and found them to be gutted and stuffed with seasoned bread. A note lay on the table scrawled with "I convinced him he was a turkey".

Utterly sickened the three faced each other, today was the day of reckoning.



villagers:2
wolves:1

dead
Holby(mod) clawed from wolves night 1
Gil-Galad(Ordinary)shot by firing squad day1
Shelob(ordinary)killed by wolves jack-o-lantern style night2
The Perky Ent(ranger)executed by his sword day2
cursed villager transformed on night3
Eomer of the Rohirrim(wolf)whacked by lumberjack's axe day3
Cailin(seer)drowned bobbing for apples with eyes ripped out night 4
Mormegil(hunter)beheaded by his own ax in a battle to the death day 4
Abercrombie(wolf)beheaded by hunter in a battle to the death day4
SaucepanMan(ordinary)poisoned on night5
Wilwarin(ordinary)'panned' to death day5
Marcolie(ordinary)got 'fawkesed' on night6
Arcticstorm(wolf)knifed and choked day6
Boromir(ordinary)stuffed like a turkey night7


living
Formendacil
Alcarillo
Azaelia

Alcarillo
10-11-2005, 06:41 PM
Well, today is the day. Unfortunately, it would appear that the wolves killed our least suspicious villager, so I'm suspicious of both of you. Let's vote very carefully; the fate of the village hangs in the balance!

I also have this to say: I am an innocent villager. I know that I have seemed very suspicious at times, and my voting record isn't spotless, and I am known for my quietness, but you have my word that I am not a werewolf. Lynching me will only kill an innocent and bring the village's defeat.

Formendacil
10-11-2005, 07:05 PM
Well, today is the day. Unfortunately, it would appear that the wolves killed our least suspicious villager, so I'm suspicious of both of you. Let's vote very carefully; the fate of the village hangs in the balance!

I also have this to say: I am an innocent villager. I know that I have seemed very suspicious at times, and my voting record isn't spotless, and I am known for my quietness, but you have my word that I am not a werewolf. Lynching me will only kill an innocent and bring the village's defeat.

I could say exactly the same thing, Alcarillo, but I don't expect anyone to believe me...

All the same, I am inclined to agree with you, and here's why:

Way back on Day 3, when we lynched Eomer the Wolf, you did NOT vote. If you were a Wolf, you would have tried to save your lupine brother. As it is, you did not vote. A suspicious decision, but not nearly so bad as Azaelia's. Azaelia voted for Eomer, but only after he was already condemned. A calculated move easily in keeping with her overall reputation as a quiet, cunning, background person, a move intended to disassociate herself from the Were-Eomer.

On all the other days, your voting records were the same regarding innocents/Gifted. Except for Day 4.

On Day 4, Alcarillo voted for Azaelia, while Azaelia helped lynch off Wilwa. The Wolves, as of that time, were half the voting population (2 out of 5) and would likely have banded together. Alcarillo, on the other hand, was the only lone voice voting for someone other than Wilwa.

So, I believe Azaelia to be our remaining Werewolf. All the evidence seems to point to her. Most ironic that I've had a bad feeling about her since WAY back, but haven't voted for her since Day 2.

Then there is yesterday...

While it is true that Alcarillo voted last, and his vote was really just an extra endorsement of what had already been passed, whereas Azaelia was the one to actually give the killing vote to Arctic, I still think Azaelia the guilty party. Why? Because there were already two votes for Arcticstorm, and if Alcarillo voted for someone else (Boromir or Azaelia) then Arcticstorm would be lynched anyway. And the bandwaggon was clearly going towards Arcticstorm. In other words, of three possible votes, only one vote would NOT ensure that Arcticstorm was not lynched anyway. Therefore, I think it a very clever ploy by Azaelia to escape suspicion.

And finally, In Defence of Myself:

I have made some tragic mistakes over the course of these tragic events in the village. The only defence I can plead is that I have never lived through this before, and that the Wolves have been very clever.

Furthermore, the final testimony of our now-dead Werewolf Arcticstorm should be taken as an endorsement of my innocence. The voting yesterday went as such:

Boromir: for Arctic
Formendacil: for Arctic
Arcticstorm: for Formendacil
Azaelia: for Arctic
Alcarillo: for Arctic

Arcticstorm, the only wolf, tried to divert the voting from himself at the most important time, by turning it to me. That, I hope should prove in your mind, Alcarillo, that I am innocent.

Alcarillo
10-11-2005, 07:24 PM
Well, I'm glad you see that I am an innocent. You seem a lot less suspicious than Azaelia now, Formendacil, although I'm still keeping an eye on everybody. I will probably vote for Azaelia today, and I am eager to hear her defense. Keep in mind that suspicions can still change.

Formendacil
10-11-2005, 07:32 PM
Well, I'm glad you see that I am an innocent. You seem a lot less suspicious than Azaelia now, Formendacil, although I'm still keeping an eye on everybody. I will probably vote for Azaelia today, and I am eager to hear her defense. Keep in mind that suspicions can still change.

Just because I think you innocent? It's always nice to be agreed with, but don't forget that I COULD be a Werewolf trying to make you help me lynch off an innocent, and thus win the game...

Of course, why would I be posting this then? :rolleyes:

Ah, such dilemmas. I'm glad your keeping your eyes open, though.

And yes, what does our Werewolf, Azaelia, have to say?

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-11-2005, 07:59 PM
I have this to say. I am NOT a werewolf. Kill me at your own peril. I think Formen is a wolf. He is working especially hard to cast me in a bad light (I know, it's not particularly difficult to point out mistakes in timing and mistakes in jumping onto an already-rolling bandwagon) and I suspect strongly that he was in it with Arctic last night.

What about yesterday, when I cast the deciding vote to kill a WEREWOLF?? I tell you, if I was a wolf, I wouldn't do that. I'd want support.

Think about it. It's a perfect plot. Kill Boromir: he knew I was innocent. Then frame me up because I post infrequently and make mistakes. If I was a wolf, why would I kill a man who believed me innocent? Brilliant plan, Formen, I must say.

Please. Please believe me. We've all made voting mistakes. That's one of the reasons we're HERE is because two of us have been stupid enough to be amusing enough for the wolf to keep alive. I suspect that the wolf among us is laughing himself silly at the sight of me trying desperately to escape the fingers pointed condemningly at me. Ha. Laugh all you want. And to the innocent villager, whichever you may be...You'll see I'm right in time (Either when we lynch the wolf, or when we lynch me, and you die.)

I'm challenging you, the innocent villager, whichever person you are, to disregard all other appearances and not lynch me. I am innocent, and I beg you to believe me.

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-11-2005, 08:06 PM
This is another challenge. Defend YOURself, Formen. Do not attempt to cast suspicion on me. Defend yourself. Why should I not believe that you are a wolf? What actions of yours are not a thin guise for your fanged secret? I dislike your very forward accusation of me. Calling me a WEREWOLF straight out like that doesn't allow me any room to defend myself. So I'm not calling you one, though I am absoloutely thinking it.

No deflecting of suspicion onto me or anyone else, for that matter. I want to hear examples of your actions that prove you not to be a wolf. Concrete examples.

I will probably vote for you today, Formen, alone if necessary. But I am giving you the chance, as Alcarillo gave to me, to defend yourself.

Formendacil
10-11-2005, 08:56 PM
This is another challenge. Defend YOURself, Formen. Do not attempt to cast suspicion on me. Defend yourself. Why should I not believe that you are a wolf? What actions of yours are not a thin guise for your fanged secret? I dislike your very forward accusation of me. Calling me a WEREWOLF straight out like that doesn't allow me any room to defend myself. So I'm not calling you one, though I am absoloutely thinking it.

One calls a wolf when one sees one. I have always presented my thoughts on the villagers, including at times some direct attempts at removing a wolf (the disastrous Wilwa experience comes to mind).

And I have already defended myself:

And finally, In Defence of Myself:

I have made some tragic mistakes over the course of these tragic events in the village. The only defence I can plead is that I have never lived through this before, and that the Wolves have been very clever.

Furthermore, the final testimony of our now-dead Werewolf Arcticstorm should be taken as an endorsement of my innocence. The voting yesterday went as such:

Boromir: for Arctic
Formendacil: for Arctic
Arcticstorm: for Formendacil
Azaelia: for Arctic
Alcarillo: for Arctic

Arcticstorm, the only wolf, tried to divert the voting from himself at the most important time, by turning it to me. That, I hope should prove in your mind, Alcarillo, that I am innocent.

You're coming on VERY strong there, Azaelia, stronger than you have all game. If I wasn't suspicious before, I would be now. That first post was a defence, which gave me pause, but this second seems like a desperate attempt to have me hung- and thus give you a feast.

Alcarillo
10-12-2005, 08:16 AM
My opinions are still not changed, so unless Azaelia comes up with some stunning evidence, she's probably getting my vote. I'm going for a walk around the island (or to school) and won't get back until a few hours before voting time. Adios!

Formendacil
10-12-2005, 11:16 AM
Another silent day... but I suppose that with only three of us left in the village, that is a most natural happening.

Today we kill the last Werewolf, or fall... Let's hope we get the Werewolf...

Formendacil
10-12-2005, 12:12 PM
I don't know when I'll be on again, and this day is showing every sign of being as silent as the last ones, so I'll make my vote now. I think it's been pretty clear that I'm convinced in my mind as to who the Werewolf is. Backpeddling or second-guessing won't help now.

++ Azaelia of Willowbottom

So help me, Eru!

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-12-2005, 12:48 PM
I have been at school all day...I just got home. I am unsure when I will be able to get back on...And I am very sorry it has come to this because YOU ARE WRONG (Well duh, you are a wolf, you know what you're doing.) If I'm coming off strong that's because this is extremely important. It's also easier to do in a small group.

So with that, I will vote

++Formendacil

and leave it up to the innocent Alcarillo to make, most likely, the wrong choice in voting for me.

I know I am not a werewolf. I only hope something I have said now has changed Alcarillo's mind.

Formendacil
10-12-2005, 02:25 PM
Well, I'm back sooner rather than later, but the expected vote of condemnation has come from Azaelia. As noted, it's down to Alcarillo to decide the face of the village.

I really hope that, after all this thought on my part, that Azaelia actually IS the Werewolf. 'Twould be a crying shame if it was Alcarillo...

Alcarillo
10-12-2005, 04:21 PM
So the fate of the village falls upon my shoulders.

++Azaelia of Willowbottom

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-12-2005, 04:43 PM
To quote Calvin&Hobbes, my favorite comic strip... "Hooray, we're dead."

And so we are. The village goes down tonight with me, because I am innocent. We were this close...THIS close to defeating a wolf, and so securing glory and fame (which we all want, I know...hahaha)...and then I get lynched. This is the part where if I was a wolf, I would be fed up with it all and would disclose myself. But I'm not. I'm innocent. But I'm still fed up.

Formen has done a brilliant job in discrediting me, and for that, I congratulate him. All hail the victorious wolf.

If I didn't know better, I would insist that I was not only playing with a wolf but also with a cobbler. Which, I admit, would be awesome, in a morbidly fascinating way.

Goodbye, sweet village...and all that sentimental stuff. Good for you, wolf. You win.

Formendacil
10-12-2005, 05:01 PM
Why do I get the feeling I've played into a Wolf's hands???

Well, votes are irretractable. Since I didn't get lynched after that Wilwa business, I suppose it's only fair that I cause the village's ruin now...

If Azaelia really ISN'T a wolf, that is...

Holbytlass
10-12-2005, 05:11 PM
The last three villagers stood in silence, wind whipping their hair and rattling the bare tree limbs. Two pointed to each other then looked expectantly at the third. It fell upon his shoulders to pass down judgement. In a moment's time his gaze fell upon the she. And it was understood.

The two males rounded on her and with vice-like grips dragged her to the river. Side by side they knelt, with her on her back in between them, they forced her head under the water. She kicked, she clawed but to no avail. Finally her body lay still and at that instant, one of the two changed.

Howling with delight it turned to the innocent. Their bodies clashed in mid-lunge, rolling in the mud. Pushing faces, kicking, hitting, but the strength of the wolf was too much. It seized an opportunity and clenched its fanged jaws on his throat, crushing it. With a last twitch of the legs, he was dead.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Years later, when the mainland town nearest the sea would have its own Fall Festivities celebrating the year's bounty, tradition had it that the youth would go to hear the legend of the desimation of SeekHaven Island.

The story never grew old in the yearly telling and it never lost its effect of sending chills up and down the spines of the listeners.

"That is wonderfully scary!", the children would praise the storyteller, "How do you know so much?"

"I just do", he replied as he ran his tongue across his teeth indecently.



dead
Holby(mod) clawed from wolves night 1
Gil-Galad(Ordinary)shot by firing squad day1
Shelob(ordinary)killed by wolves jack-o-lantern style night2
The Perky Ent(ranger)executed by his sword day2
cursed villager transformed on night3
Eomer of the Rohirrim(wolf)whacked by lumberjack's axe day3
Cailin(seer)drowned bobbing for apples with eyes ripped out night 4
Mormegil(hunter)beheaded by his own ax in a battle to the death day 4
Abercrombie(wolf)beheaded by hunter in a battle to the death day4
SaucepanMan(ordinary)poisoned on night5
Wilwarin(ordinary)'panned' to death day5
Marcolie(ordinary)got 'fawkesed' on night6
Arcticstorm(wolf)knifed and choked day6
Boromir(ordinary)stuffed like a turkey night7
Azaelia(ordinary)drowned day7
Formendacil(ordinary)throat crushed day7


living
Alcarillo(wolf)

WEREWOLVES WIN!!

Holbytlass
10-12-2005, 05:15 PM
Dreams
Saucepan Man
Eomer
Azaelia
Mormegil

Ranger
Formendacil

Hunter
Perky Ent
Azaelia
Marcolie
Abercrombie(kill)

Cursed Villager
ArcticStorm

I wish to thank everyone who participated, you all played brilliantly and made this game memorable. I also thank those who repped me and the two who rated the thread.

The Saucepan Man
10-12-2005, 05:22 PM
Ai! I am going to have to give up Werewolf games. :eek:

After wilwa was lynched and found innocent, I was convinced that the Wolves were Boro and Formendacil. When arctic was lynched and found to be a Wolf, I was convinced that the remaining Wolf was Boro. When Boro died, I was convinced that it was Formendacil!!!

A grudging ( ;) ) congratulations to all the Wolves, but particular congratulations to Alcarillo. Talk about slipping under the radar ...! :rolleyes: You played an excellent game, sir.

And what's with the location, Formen? Morm pointed it out to me after Boro died and it looked to be an absolute giveaway.

Great game, though. Thanks to all involved. Eomer, you were an excellent adversary. I enjoyed our tussle. And you played your role excellently, Cailin - spot on with the dreams. Was it Azaelia that you dreamed of the night before you got killed? And once again, morm, humble apologies for instigating your untimely and underserved death.

And last, but most certainly not least, praise Holby with great praise! A wonderful modding job and excellent death scenes - you really know how to rack up the suspense, don't you?!!

Edit: Ah, I see that Azaelia was Cailin's third dream. Well, at least I got something right.

Holbytlass
10-12-2005, 05:26 PM
And what's with the location, Formen? Morm pointed it out to me after Boro died and it looked to be an absolute giveaway.
I can attest that the location was there before Boro's stuffing. Formen is from Canada and they had their Thanksgiving earlier this week.

Feanor of the Peredhil
10-12-2005, 05:39 PM
Fantasic job guys. Beautiful work. And Holby gets so great praise praising for her fantastically suspenseful and fun deaths.

Glirdan
10-12-2005, 05:46 PM
Good game!!!! Haven't been following it thoroughly, but I've been following it none the less!!! Great job Wolves!!! Great modding Holby!!!!

Boromir88
10-12-2005, 05:47 PM
Well played by our wolves, especially Alcarillo.

I was pretty sure I was going to be the one to die that night, and wanted to get on to say some final thoughts, but alas didn't have enough time. I wasn't going to say this, because by saying this would probably mean the wolf wouldn't follow, but the way I figured after arctic was killed...

I figured, wolf or not, Alcarillo was going to be alive the final day.

If I died, Alcarillo was the wolf, because I would be the most likely one to vote against him. I was planning a big case eventhough I figured I was going to die.

If I lived, Formendacil or Azaelia (whichever didn't die that night was a wolf), because they may feel it easier in convincing me that Alcarillo was a wolf. If that makes any sense at all.

My apologies to mormegil, he truly did make me eat my words, and beside the villagers loss that was my only regret in the game.

Edit:

On some more blabbing...

I must say I enjoyed a good game of werewolf for the first time with Eomer, Abercrombie (you definitely fooled me), Formendacil, and Shelob (though I regret not being able to hear from her long).

And some more kudos to Alcarillo, for looking too wolfish to be a wolf, if ya catch my meaning. I love how you followed me to say arctic and Formendacil were wolves, then the next day once Formendacil went after Azaelia, you hopped along, great wolf play.

Formendacil
10-12-2005, 06:12 PM
And what's with the location, Formen? Morm pointed it out to me after Boro died and it looked to be an absolute giveaway.

Hint: The second Monday of October is the Canadian Thanksgiving...

Oh, what a brutal, painful, totally addictive game...

I was totally taken in... My brilliant thesis against Azaelia: totally wrong! I'll admit to having a twinge of indecision when Alcarillo agreed with me so easily, but clearly I didn't act on it...

Oh, the pain!

Still, I think it a miracle I survived the Wilwa debacle. I was just crying to be a Werewolf there.

Future Fellow Werewolf Players: When looking at my brillant theses, remember this abysmal game.

Still, that was FUN!

Alcarillo
10-12-2005, 06:20 PM
Great game everybody!

I'm surprised I won. My previous playing time was equal to three days across two games. Now it's quadrupled!

And imagine my delight when the two innocents had voted for each other! I almost felt like typing a you-fools-I-was-the-wolf-the-whole-time speech.

And great modding, Holby. I especially liked the epilogue.

Thanks go to my fellow werewolves. I couldn't have done it without you!

wilwarin538
10-12-2005, 06:27 PM
Wow I actually did vote for a Wolf(on Day 2 I believe). That was very well played Alcarillo!

I will admit that wasn't my best performance in a WW game I've ever had. :rolleyes: Hopefully my next game will be better. :D

Shelob
10-12-2005, 06:45 PM
(though I regret not being able to hear from her long)

Thanks, though with such an early death I got to read almost all of the game as a wolf would (thanks to abercrombie). Which at least meant that the vast majority of this game felt normal...that one day as an innocent though, that was interesting. I kept saying to myself "Alright, now I need to convince SPM that I'm innocent without shifting suspicion to...erm...yeah...right...not a wolf..." :rolleyes: What a useless paranoia to have picked up...

Still though, lasted longer than the last time I was innocent...that's worth something.


Good Job all, I enjoyed watching the confusion, the plot-twists (this was the first time, to my knowledge, ever that anyone refuted a player's claim to be gifted, and look where it led), and the suspense. (You do write very good deaths Holby).

Once again, Excellently Played...an exceedingly entertaining game.

wilwarin538
10-12-2005, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Shelob's sig
Pan for everyone!

So thats where it came from. :rolleyes: Ya know what Pebbly Shebbly, those pans really hurt, and its all because of your sig. :p

I personnaly think that Holby's deaths were some of the best I've ever read, they were suspenseful and very original. :D Good job Holby!

Shelob
10-12-2005, 07:06 PM
those pans really hurt, and its all because of your sig.

Yeah, though it is just asking to be mis-used like that, and I'm glad Holby put it to good use. Most especially because she managed to use both the English and Spanish meanings (since I mean for it to be the Spanish word for bread)...it's like an amazingly bad pun in your death, and it's bilingual which makes it even better...


Incidently, since I'm finally in a position to request this, Could the Wolves please explain why they killed who they killed when they killed them? I've been given a brief run-down of my death but more details on all of them would be nice.

Many Thanks.

AbercrombieOfRohan
10-12-2005, 09:46 PM
Once again, Excellently Played...an exceedingly entertaining game.

And you wondered why we killed you? :rolleyes:

Well played everyone, especially my dear wolf Alcarillo. Dear Eru, I was nervous the last day, but you played magnificently and eased my strained heart.

Well Shelob you know why we killed you, put I'll just put it out in the open for everyone else.

You're a logical thinker, you insist you don't think like SPM, but I still think you do, at the very least you're smart and have been successful in past werewolf games. Plus you've been a very succesful wolf and would most likely catch any of our devious plots. I think I confused Eomer and Alcarillo because they were both for killing Shelob and I knew, that at least Perky and Marcolie had knowledge about us being friends outside of BD, so I figured it would bring suspicion on me. And when I told them as much, they assured me that if I didn't want to kill my friend they completely understood, but of course that was completely opposite of my meaning, I quite wanted to see Holby's write-up for a dear friend of mine. I daresay many people would agree that it would be quite enjoyable for them to see the death of their friend. ;)

Cailin was our next kill correct? Eomer had mentioned her as the seer and there were distinct advantages to killing her.
1) It seemed likely she was the seer.
2) Her and SPM seemed a little to chummy for my liking. It seemed to me, that Cailin could do no wrong in SPM's eyes (probably because he realised that she was the seer.) I've realised that I have strong urges to kill people that seem to close to Saucepan, because that generally means either he's spotted something that I haven't and they are gifted, or they are wolves trying to rally around him. In this game I knew who the wolves were, so the latter was ruled out and Cailin seemed likely to be the seer.

After that I was dead, so I can't really offer my views on the subject, except to say that the rest of the wolves did a superb job in killing the right people at the right time.

And great game modding Holby!

mormegil
10-12-2005, 09:57 PM
Future Fellow Werewolf Players: When looking at my brillant theses, remember this abysmal game.

Hey I get some crazy ideas but they seem to never be correct. :rolleyes: My opinions seemed to mirror SpM's on who the wolf was. I kept wanting to just click reply and yell can't you see that Boromir is the wolf. I thought it was interesting that day where Boromir and Formendacil came out and gave a little bit of an arguement to each other and said they were suspicious of each other then both quickly turned on another, I believe Azealia

What I need to know is from Abercrombie...Why? I was dying that day. I've rarely been so frustrated. I just couldn't get anybody to believe me. But I do thank Holby for making Boromir eat his words....it was kind of my request at the height of frustration...no hard feelings though Boro or anybody for that matter.

AbercrombieOfRohan
10-12-2005, 10:05 PM
What I need to know is from Abercrombie...Why?

Well Morm, I needed to get out of the game, I had too much homework to do and, though I enjoyed playing in it, I just couldn't commit enough time or energy to it.
So I started looking for a way out...and then it just fell into my lap.

When you posted that you were the hunter, I practically died; it was so perfect. I also knew the position you were in, you already had garnered quite a bit of suspicion against you and were looking likely as a lynching candidate, until your proclamation. I then decided that the best of situations would be to get out of the game and take a gifted down with me. I felt that we could still win without me, so I took the leap, and it worked out better than I could've hoped for. Sorry you were so frustrated, I only meant to cause a bit of mayhem and confusion and add to the suspense of the game!

arcticstorm
10-12-2005, 10:26 PM
why did the wearwolves kill Morcolie instead of Boromir two nights ago? I knew that he would be outspoken the next day, lke normal. I knew he would attack me and Formendacil. But I assumed wrongly that he would attack Formendacil. And we wanted to be nice because Marcolie asked to be killed.

Cailín
10-13-2005, 12:38 AM
I knew at some point articstorm was the cursed wolf - he was the other likely candidate to be the Seer on Day 2. But I was honestly convinced either Boromir or Formendacil was the last one! So, great job Alcarillo.

Playing the Seer was immensely enjoyable and Holby - your modding was great, even the dreams were suspenseful. Thanks! Too bad I died, though, but I guess I had it coming. ;)

The Saucepan Man
10-13-2005, 03:07 AM
Her and SPM seemed a little to chummy for my liking. It seemed to me, that Cailin could do no wrong in SPM's eyes (probably because he realised that she was the seer.)I figured out that Cailin was most likely to be the Seer on Night 3 as I reviewed the Day 2 proceedings. A number of her comments seemed to indicate that she had dreamed of me and found me to be innocent and that she had dreamed of Eomer and found him to be a Wolf. Both of us were likely candidates for early Seer dreams. So, on Day 3, I was keeping my eye out for further evidence to back this belief up. That came with a further comment from Cailin and, most particularly, Eomer's strong attack on her. I was also fortified in my belief by Boro's indication that he had spotted Cailin's comments. My only fear was that Cailin was a tricksy Wolf pretending to be the Seer. Luckily, that fear was groundless.

I was also quite certain that Cailin had dreamed of Azaelia on Night 3 both because Azaelia, having attracted a lot of suspicion, was a likely dream candidate and because of Cailin's comments about her. So, had I survived to the end, I would not have voted for Azaelia. That said, however, I would most likely have turned on Formendacil. :rolleyes: I never strongly suspected Alcarillo, despite the fact that he transgressed most of the "rules" that I posted at the outset. :D

Abercrombie, I thought that your Hunter declaration was very strange at the time. But it turned out to be a stroke of genius. Had morm's declaration gone unchallenged, we most likely would have lynched wilwa that Day, and so an innocent would have died in any event. But you kept the suspicion on mormegil, meaning that two vocal innocent villagers (morm and me) could be disposed of at a stroke and preventing a known innocent from hanging around and being a thorn in the Wolves' sides (as morm would have been a risky kill).

Finally, although all credit goes to the Wolves for the win, I would just like to point out that the Villagers managed to kill three Wolves, which is pretty good going in comparison with other games. So due credit too to my fellow innocents and the gifteds. :smokin:

Cailín
10-13-2005, 04:17 AM
I was also quite certain that Cailin had dreamed of Azaelia on Night 3 both because Azaelia, having attracted a lot of suspicion, was a likely dream candidate and because of Cailin's comments about her.

It's funny though I instantly regretted having dreamed of Azaelia the moment I sent her name to Holby. It proves that the best strategy for a Seer is not dreaming of the ones who gather the most suspicion during the day (because you can pretty much count on them being innocent anyway and if not, you'll find out soon enough), but rather the people you want to be able to trust.

I still regret I condemned Perky to the gallows - that was my fault indeed -, but my dream about Eomer then proved to be the wiser choice. Though my other candidate for the third dream, Formendacil, was also proven innocent in the end, it would have told me far more than a dream about someone I just wanted to be able to protect, after feeling serious guilty towards Perky.

Boromir88
10-13-2005, 07:47 AM
I thought it was interesting that day where Boromir and Formendacil came out and gave a little bit of an arguement to each other and said they were suspicious of each other then both quickly turned on another, I believe Azealia~mormegil
Yea, but then I bought Azaelia's "innocent" outcry, just didn't believe you for some reason. :p Mostly because I didn't see why a wolf would come out and claim to be the Hunter after the real Hunter did, though now I see why and Abercrombie did wonderful in sucking me in.

When arctic was lynched and found to be a Wolf, I was convinced that the remaining Wolf was Boro.~Sauce
I kind of was thinking along those same lines too. If I was not to die that night, what would I say to convince the villagers I was truly innocent. Basically, I was thinking, if I was a wolf, and I had that much control over how voting would of turned out, I would have ended it that day, and not of wanted to drag it out another day when anything could happen.

But at the end of voting, it was pretty clear to me that, Azaelia was innocent, or atleast I bought it, and if she was a wolf she played it great, Formendacil was innocent, because she just at this point seemed very befuddled, and that Alcarillo was the wolf, because he had been playing very safe in voting lately. I was definitely going after him, but he made the wise choice of killing me then jumping on with Formendacil.

Well played by all our wolves. And if it wasn't for Cailin I probably would have foolishly followed Eomer (which I was doing up until that when she specifically said to me that it wasn't wise to follow a suicidal wolf).

Márcolië Lamen
10-13-2005, 08:28 AM
First and foremost, congratulations Alcarillo and the wolves. I would never have suspected you if it continued at the same pace.
At the same time good job to all other villagers and gifted, we managed to kill three wolves, which is difficult too in such a village-both the other games I read/played in all three wolves made it out alive which makes this a nice change ;).

Thank you wolves for killing me when I asked for it. This game is too addicting for its own good and, much like Abercrombie I found myself needing to get out for school related reasons. Ironically before the whole hunter deal happened I was debating being a suicidal villager and just coming in voting for myself and disappearing.

Abercrombie just wow. If you hadn't had to get out because of homework causing you to greet the wee hours of the morning (now you know how I feel :P) you probably could have made alot of damage (well for me I don't think my innate ability of trusting you too much was very helpful). But the way you got out definitally threw a curve ball. And was exceedingly memorable as well as taking down a gifted with you

Holby, thanks for the entertaining deaths for all. You made a great mod.

All in all, thanks for a great game all and I hope to play again sometime when finals are not on the horizon.




p.s. If anyone cares to know, the worst thing possibly in a werewolf game is an attack cat. You know how many times I've typed up this reply not to mention all of the ones I said during the game.

Formendacil
10-13-2005, 10:55 AM
... Formendacil was innocent, because she just at this point seemed very befuddled...

"SHE"???

:eek:

Please tell me that is a typo... or something...

Eomer of the Rohirrim
10-13-2005, 01:00 PM
Hail the victorious Wolf! Alcarillo, you were tremendous. :)

And I have to agree with previous sentiments: This was a high-quality game and everyone can feel pleased with the contributions of Wolves and Villagers.

Abercrombie, I confess to gawping at my computer screen in amazement when you did what you did. I was highly sceptical of the plan. But I must retract those suspicions, for it worked out very well in the end to take out the known innocent. Well done!

And Arcticstorm (all these A's, eh?), 'twas a shame that I never got to strategise with thee, but I'm proud to say that it was my hopeless suspicion of you being the Seer that allowed you to join our team. It was the comments about Perky Ent that made me think that. You played wisely throughout.

I thought that there was a good chance that Cailín was the Seer, but I realised that killing her at night would point straight to me in any case. If she'd dreamt about me then there was no hope in defending myself anyway. And bagging the Cursed Villager was about as lucky as we could have got! :D

O, one other thing. Why did I pick on SpM? Because I knew it would be so much fun! Two suicidal wolves in one team? It worked out in the end. :)

And I too praise Holby with great praise. Very original modding.

Azaelia of Willowbottom
10-13-2005, 03:44 PM
Great game, everyone. I well deserve the name "Wrong-Way Azaelia" for this one. Brilliantly played, Alcarillo. Absoloutely amazing.

I must pose a question to Formendacil: Why were you so sure I was a werewolf that you thought you could just put yourself out there and say "WEREWOLF!!"? What did I do wrong? (Well that would be a very long answer!)

This was SO MUCH FUN. I lasted longer than I ever have in a game of WW...and that last day was a kind of warped fun, pleading for my life was an interesting experience!

Good job, all!

Holbytlass
10-13-2005, 04:34 PM
My wolves Eomer, Abercrombie, Alcarillo and Arcticstorm.

I swear I folded a sheet of paper in 16 equal size parts, wrote everyones name and split them up. Then I had my three darling gals take turns and pick the special roles, mixing in between pickings. So it was coincidental I had 3 A's and all vowel names for the wolves. And believe me, I had to keep looking in my notes to keep them straight, especially with Alcarillo and Arcticstorm.

This was an exciting game and I was not rooting for a specific side to win, but there were defintely times I had know idea where things were headed. I'm really pleased that you all liked the storyline, and thanks again for the reps.

But I am glad to get my life back :p, my brain is fried and I want to read WWJr I game and hop on board with LOTR Survivor.

Formendacil
10-13-2005, 06:29 PM
I must pose a question to Formendacil: Why were you so sure I was a werewolf that you thought you could just put yourself out there and say "WEREWOLF!!"? What did I do wrong? (Well that would be a very long answer!)

Remember that analysis of you and Alcarillo on the last day? Where I went a listed voting records and such? What you see there is what was going on in my mind... Quite frankly, I thought then, and I still think, that you were the one who had the more incriminating voting record.

And, by the way, a great deal of thanks to Boromir and all those who kept up their day-after voting tallies. Those things were a lifesaver (no pun intended).

The thing is that I am really bad on picking up hints from seers and such. All that I really good with working with is the actual votes... and my analysis was that your voting habits were worse than Alcarillo's... although we all looked pretty bad there at the end.

As for my "vibes" from the earlier days regarding you being suspicious... nothing but groundless feeling. I could blame it on the "z" in your name, and that would be as true as any other reason I could come with. Except maybe your quietness. I suspect quiet players of being Werewolves a lot more than the noisy ones...

The Only Real Estel
10-13-2005, 07:45 PM
"SHE"???

:eek:

Please tell me that is a typo... or something...


The neg rep button lies nearby. ;)

Great game, all, although I didn't get to watch it as closely as I wanted to. Once again Saucey is innocent; & once again the game comes down to that horrible one wolf - two villagers decision that is so tough to call.

As Holby knows quite well by now, I really enjoyed her death scenes. Each & every mod has done a great job, but Holby is near the top of my favorites list. :)