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Valier
01-03-2006, 11:17 AM
Vague Descriptions I came up with this new game, might be a good one!Here's how it goes...You make up a question about someone,thing,or place(,LOTR related of course) being as vague as possible.who ever gets it right starts a new one.
Please start your questions with that guy/girl,that thing,that place,or something along that line so it's not too vague! I will start...
You know that Girl with the feet?The one who's name could describe cheeks?And something soft?
Pretty easy first one!ANYONE?????
Kitanna
01-03-2006, 12:00 PM
Could it be Rosie Cotton...
Valier
01-03-2006, 12:29 PM
Good job Kitanna your turn!
Kitanna
01-03-2006, 03:53 PM
I'll do something easy because I'm blanking on something creative.
Remember that guy who died in battle? He had a ring and to him we sadly sing
Elu Ancalime
01-03-2006, 03:57 PM
Well Isildur had the Ring when he died in that ambush.....
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Firefoot
01-03-2006, 06:25 PM
Gil-Galad, I think.
Kitanna
01-03-2006, 07:10 PM
Nice guess, Elu Ancalime, but Firefoot is correct.
Firefoot
01-03-2006, 07:27 PM
Thanks.
It's that one place where birds are burned.
Lindolirian
01-03-2006, 08:13 PM
Fifteen of them in fir trees in the glade east of the Misty Mts?
Firefoot
01-03-2006, 08:42 PM
Sure is. Your go!
Lindolirian
01-04-2006, 01:43 PM
So there was this one frozen guy who had a punch like a mallet.
NightKnight
01-05-2006, 06:04 AM
Helm Hammerhand?
Lindolirian
01-05-2006, 06:30 AM
He's the one!
NightKnight
01-06-2006, 01:16 PM
There's this guy who's a mighty hornblower.
Valier
01-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Hhhmmmmmmmm,that one's very vague..could be Ulmo?
Fingolfin II
01-06-2006, 07:37 PM
Or could it be Old Toby?
NightKnight
01-07-2006, 04:38 AM
Neither.
Lindolirian
01-07-2006, 02:11 PM
Well Helm had a pretty sweet horn in his Deep, but he was the last answer and I don't think you're that tricky so if not, I'll go with Theoden since he shattered his blowing it on the Pelennor Fields. That's gotta be a pretty mighty blast.
malkatoj
01-07-2006, 03:30 PM
Boromir, maybe?
Rune Son of Bjarne
01-08-2006, 10:28 AM
Merry ? (maybe he is not that mighty)
NightKnight
01-08-2006, 03:31 PM
Exactly the blast I was thinking of, Lindo. Must have been a mighty blow indeed, and that charge gives me shivers. :D
Stage's yours.
Lindolirian
01-12-2006, 09:52 AM
Thi guy was probably short and really ugly but he was a rock of fidelity.
Tuor of Gondolin
01-12-2006, 11:16 AM
I'll take a try at this.
Is it Tuor?
Lindolirian
01-12-2006, 11:23 AM
Nope, Tuor was pretty tall.
This person is not only described vaguely, he is a pretty vague character himself. In fact he's so vague I've already forgotten how his name is spelled and I'm counting on recognizing it when I see it. Or looking it up again...;)
Firefoot
01-12-2006, 11:26 AM
Aghan?
Lindolirian
01-12-2006, 11:42 AM
Aha! See now I recognize it! Good work Firefoot
Firefoot
01-12-2006, 12:03 PM
This unhasty man is said to have much knowledge and little wisdom.
Rune Son of Bjarne
01-12-2006, 12:18 PM
Is that said about Gandalf ?
(I love the tale Aghan, but I too forgot his name)
Lindolirian
01-16-2006, 05:29 PM
I don't have the book with me to confirm, but Mogru comes to mind.
Firefoot
01-16-2006, 05:36 PM
Neither of those.
Valier
01-16-2006, 05:40 PM
Maybe Tom Bombadil?
Firefoot
01-16-2006, 06:02 PM
Nope.
Kitanna
01-16-2006, 06:03 PM
Errr...Saruman?
Valier
01-20-2006, 12:14 PM
*Poke* Firefoot? :D
Firefoot
01-20-2006, 06:54 PM
No. It's a minor character.
Valier
01-20-2006, 07:11 PM
How bout' Sam's old Gaffer?
Bergil
01-20-2006, 07:39 PM
the waffler from the Houses of Healing, anyone recall his name.
Firefoot
01-20-2006, 10:28 PM
Bergil's got it! I don't know if he really has a name other than the Warden of the Houses of Healing, or something like that.
Valier
01-28-2006, 09:38 PM
*Poke* Bergil?
Valier
02-16-2006, 12:48 PM
Well since it's been FOREVER ! I will keep this game going with a new question. :D
WHO WAS THAT PERSON,WHO LIKED FLOWERS AND WAS RELATED TO SOME WATER?
Kitanna
02-16-2006, 01:06 PM
Er, the only name that comes to mind is Goldberry...
Valier
02-16-2006, 01:09 PM
Yep Kitanna good job I couldn't think of a more difficult one at the moment... so take it away!
Kitanna
02-16-2006, 01:29 PM
Ooo, fun times.
this one was proud and wise, but was blinded by the Eye
Valier
02-16-2006, 02:33 PM
Could it be Saruman?
Kitanna
02-16-2006, 02:39 PM
Not the one I'm thinking of.
NightKnight
02-17-2006, 02:23 PM
Denethor?
Kitanna
02-17-2006, 02:49 PM
Bingo, NightKnight
NightKnight
02-24-2006, 12:16 PM
There was this guy who saved his friend by drowning.
Valier
03-30-2006, 10:01 AM
Could you maybe give us a hint, NightKnight? Noone seems to know this one or has any guesses.
Valier
04-25-2006, 03:24 PM
Ok since this thread has not been open in awhile someone else please make up a new description. Sorry NightKnight! But I like this thread and yours was proving too hard I guess.....
Beanamir of Gondor
05-09-2006, 08:43 PM
Saved his friend.... by drowning? *confused*
Well, anyway. To save a dying thread! (I know the feeling!)
So this handsome young guy married his cousin's beautiful sister-in-law....
Elu Ancalime
05-10-2006, 06:43 AM
Sounds like Arvedui, but.....
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Beanamir of Gondor
05-11-2006, 11:55 AM
no.....
Anguirel
05-11-2006, 12:43 PM
Hurin and Morwen?
Mithalwen
05-11-2006, 12:57 PM
Faramir? He is first cousin to Lothiriel of Dol Amroth who by marrying Eomer has Eowyn as a sister in law? I think Faramir and Eowyn may have tied the knot first but otherwise...
Beanamir of Gondor
05-11-2006, 10:59 PM
Yes, Faramir is who I had in mind.... ha ha, I did forget that he and Eowyn got married before Eomer and Lothiriel....
All yours, Mithalwen!
Mithalwen
05-19-2006, 07:58 AM
Sorry for the delay:(
There was this girl who was lost and then found, then disappeared with a trace.
Valier
06-02-2006, 12:30 PM
Could it be Nienor Niniel?
Mithalwen
06-02-2006, 02:32 PM
Erm it it so long ago that I am not completely sure! I think I may have meant Mithrellas but Nienor works and since we are well over the 10 days.. the thread is yours!!
Valier
06-02-2006, 02:45 PM
There once was a man who had a golden head......what was his name?
arcticstorm
10-28-2006, 11:03 PM
Since it has been way longer than 10 days, i will try to revive this thread
you know, that one person who who slew that one flying thing at that one lake.
Kitanna
10-29-2006, 08:43 AM
Could it be Bard?
arcticstorm
10-29-2006, 01:45 PM
yes it could
your question
Kitanna
10-29-2006, 02:13 PM
Should be pretty easy.
Remember that guy who hung around ships all the time?
Macalaure
10-30-2006, 04:34 AM
Earendil? Aldarion?
I'm guessing Cirdan.
Kitanna
10-30-2006, 07:20 AM
'Tis Cirdan.
Macalaure
10-30-2006, 02:36 PM
Thanks!
Remember that guy who died because his pals wouldn't make him stop hanging around?
Luinilwen
11-08-2006, 03:51 PM
Ufthak, who was left hanging by his orc buddies because they didn't want to anger her Ladyship, I believe.
Macalaure
11-09-2006, 02:17 AM
Exactly!
Your turn. :)
Luinilwen
11-09-2006, 03:04 PM
ok, this is pathetic.
It's a shiny little round thing.
Damrod
11-10-2006, 12:00 PM
If it is not a trick of some kind, I would say Isildur's Bane.
Luinilwen
11-11-2006, 10:35 PM
Yippee! Yeah, sorry, I was supposed to be studing for chem, and it was the best I could come up with. Go ahead.
Damrod
11-12-2006, 08:29 AM
Should be fairly easy...
It's this cave with a pretty water feature, but I can't tell you how to get there.
Thinlómien
11-22-2006, 03:46 AM
Henneth Annûn, by any chance?
Damrod
11-22-2006, 01:20 PM
Good job! You correctly guessed the answer and saved the thread from stagnation...go ahead :)
Thinlómien
11-27-2006, 02:40 AM
Rember that guy who killed his son's betrayer?
Rune Son of Bjarne
11-27-2006, 04:56 AM
Hurin?
Thinlómien
11-28-2006, 02:51 AM
Definitely. Your turn, Rune. :)
Valier
12-18-2006, 10:49 PM
Rune?!!!!! :p ;)
Valier
12-29-2006, 09:19 AM
*Bump* Rune it is your turn. If you don't reply soon I may just take over your turn.... :eek: :p
The Might
12-29-2006, 04:43 PM
it's been a month...I'm posting a new one :p
Remember those 2 guys that died long ago and someone built for them really cool statues near a river ?
Legate of Amon Lanc
12-31-2006, 03:57 AM
You mean Isildur and Anárion?
The Might
12-31-2006, 04:19 AM
yep, that's them :)
Legate of Amon Lanc
12-31-2006, 04:30 AM
Okay, I'll post a new one, right? So: This gal was shot but never died.
The Might
12-31-2006, 04:44 AM
Celebrian ?
Legate of Amon Lanc
12-31-2006, 04:46 AM
Of course, who else :p Your turn now.
The Might
12-31-2006, 04:51 AM
I was actually thinking if you said it was wrong I couldn't really think of anything else...
Remember that place where you can find nice pearls ?
Wishmaster
12-31-2006, 04:56 AM
the Isle of Balar?
The Might
12-31-2006, 05:24 AM
Welcome to the Downs !!!
And yes, that's correct :)
Wishmaster
12-31-2006, 05:35 AM
Good..
remember that sharp thingy which also was some sort of weird flower?
The Might
12-31-2006, 09:30 AM
Aeglos...nice but easy :)
Wishmaster
12-31-2006, 09:47 AM
Your turn :p
The Might
12-31-2006, 10:55 AM
Anyway...
Remember that guy who was the only survivor of a shipwreck?
Valier
12-31-2006, 05:03 PM
Voronwe?
The Might
12-31-2006, 08:46 PM
yep, that's the guy ;)
Valier
01-01-2007, 04:33 PM
There was this thing, that was slain by another thing.....Who was the slain Thing?
The Might
01-01-2007, 05:31 PM
thing???
I'm confused...
thing makes it sound it's not alive, but slain clearly shows the contrary
or maybe it should only show that these 2 things are identical...I really don't know what to understand from this
I dunno, maybe Deagol
Valier
01-01-2007, 06:23 PM
No That is not it Might....You are kinda on the right trail that they are the same, in a way. And yes the things are alive.
The Might
01-01-2007, 07:11 PM
alive...
but if they both are things it would also mean they have something in common
but since there are so many examples of Men killing Men or Elves killing Elves this can't be so easy
it made me think that "thing" might suggest they are animals...so I first thought of the Witch-king's fell beast and Snowmane
Valier
01-01-2007, 08:58 PM
Now you are on the right track!! But no Snowmane is not the answer.
The Might
01-02-2007, 10:06 AM
since you ask "who2 and not "what" makes me think it was definitely an individual
then I'd say Carcharoth slain by Huan
Valier
01-02-2007, 10:19 AM
Soooooo close, but Carcharoth is not the "Thing" I am looking for. ;)
The Might
01-02-2007, 10:22 AM
Draugluin maybe
Valier
01-02-2007, 10:23 AM
That's the one!! Your thread Might.
The Might
01-02-2007, 10:26 AM
you were quick with the reply...:)
well, it was a nice question...and definitely VAGUE
this thing can trap the light of the sun in it
Valier
01-02-2007, 10:28 AM
The Phial of Galadriel?
The Might
01-02-2007, 10:50 AM
nope, it had the light of the evening star in it
Valier
01-02-2007, 10:58 AM
Anar?
The Might
01-02-2007, 11:02 AM
lol...Anar is the Sun itself...
and even though theoretically the Sun does trap or contain its light I guess, the Sun doesn't qualify as a thing for me...the presence of Arien makes it more a living thing
Valier
01-02-2007, 11:05 AM
The unlight of Ungoliant? It traps all light
The Might
01-02-2007, 11:12 AM
no...
I guess I haven't used the right words
I wanted to use "thing" here not as a term for an unknown name, but as a synonim for object
Valier
01-02-2007, 11:55 AM
Perhaps one of the Sils?
The Might
01-02-2007, 12:04 PM
they had the light of the trees
Valier
01-02-2007, 12:18 PM
Ah yes but the Sils would trap and refract light :p Ok this one will take awhile
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-02-2007, 12:21 PM
Elessar? (I think "Elessar" and "Elendilmir" define my part in the Quiz Room later now)
The Might
01-02-2007, 12:23 PM
Sorry Valier, but Legate is right
The Elessar had the light of the Sun trapped within it, and those who looked through it were said to see the withered or aged as whole and young again. It was even claimed to have some power of healing.
Now we are talking mostly about the first Elessar, the one that greater power, since the second one given to Aragorn was also made by Celebrimbor but it was not as good as the first.
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-02-2007, 12:42 PM
Now we are talking mostly about the first Elessar, the one that greater power, since the second one given to Aragorn was also made by Celebrimbor but it was not as good as the first.
Unless, of course, it was not the same Elessar - which we are not 100% sure about.
...but of coourse it was the Elessar! :D Okay, guess I'm up to post the next. So...
...remember that guy who was always left in trouble by his pals?
The Might
01-02-2007, 12:47 PM
Pippin maybe...probably because of the quote from the movie
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-02-2007, 12:53 PM
Nope, and to make matters clear I might add that I am using the info from the books, at least in this case.
The Might
01-02-2007, 12:59 PM
well...I thought at least something in the movies might be true...:D
Bilbo...I can recall a few times the Company of Thorin left him in trouble I guess
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-02-2007, 01:04 PM
Yup, it's Bilbo. I knew it was easy but I supposed that people will try to seek something more complicated in it.
It's your turn now.
The Might
01-02-2007, 01:39 PM
well, I did, in the beginning
but after I reminded of the events in The Hobbit I was pretty sure it was Bilbo
The name of this land comes from a terrible cry
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-02-2007, 01:45 PM
Lammoth...
The Might
01-02-2007, 01:49 PM
well...it was quite obvious I guess
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-02-2007, 02:01 PM
Well, the trouble is that in thread like this if you ask for something "common", it would be likely very easy to answer.
Hope at least this will not be a first-thought case:
Remember that one who lost one front tooth?
The Might
01-02-2007, 02:22 PM
Viggo Mortensen ? :D:D:D
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-02-2007, 02:26 PM
:D :D :D !!!
But no, it was not him.
The Might
01-06-2007, 07:19 PM
well, I wasn't able find any character that actually lost a tooth, but I probably didn't look hard enough
maybe a small hint would be good :confused:
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-07-2007, 07:55 AM
Okay, since I didn't want this to be too obvious, I might add that this character's tooth was, ehm, forced to leave his mouth after being persuaded by a wooden branch :D
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-14-2007, 10:28 AM
No one knows??? :eek: Don't give me that!
I can now tell you, all you Downers who have read my description and didn't guess the right answer, that you seriously have lost the right to call yourselves "the wise in Tolkien-lore"! ;) Saruman, you have studied the deep knowledge of ancient scrolls for so long that you lost view of the most obvious things! Or is it that the help must come from the hands of weak when wise falter?
Note: Includes hint :D
The Might
01-14-2007, 10:49 AM
Saruman lost a tooth?
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-14-2007, 10:56 AM
No, it's not that obvious :D Okay, I meant that the answer is not in any of the "sophisticated books", neither HoME, nor Unfinished Tales... generally, I think that someone who just came to contact with Tolkien's work half a year ago could beat in answering someone who has spent ten years reading all the books from back to front... :)
Beanamir of Gondor
03-05-2007, 04:25 PM
My guess is a Hobbit... just because getting smacked in the face with a tree branch sounds like something a Hobbit would do. :P
*frantically ruffles through book*
The Might
03-05-2007, 04:47 PM
Oh yeah, I remember searching for this answer some time ago but I eventually gave up as I wasn't able to locate it.
Legate of Amon Lanc
03-06-2007, 01:37 PM
You are correct about the Hobbit, it is not really such a problem - try to imagine all the possibilities where in Hobbit someone could have been hit by a tree branch and lost a tooth... (you can start by ellimination method - e.g. it couldn't have been the spiders in Mirkwood, because spiders don't have teeth; it couldn't have been Gollum, because there were no trees around... I think I have said quite enough)
Ataralasse
04-16-2007, 04:40 PM
I don't know his name, but it was one of the Trolls in The Hobbit!! I think it was Tom.
Legate of Amon Lanc
04-17-2007, 03:44 AM
Yes, that was Tom. And Thorin was the one who did it to him, by the way.
Great job, Ataralasse! You managed to solve a thing that has been lying here unsolved for weeks... You can post the next question.
Ataralasse
04-17-2007, 09:21 PM
Woohoo! I read the vague description, and thought, 'Oh, oh, I know that one! But someone has GOT to have answered it already ::sigh:: ... ' and then suddenly I was at the bottom of the page. :D I've never typed so fast in my life. Hehe.
So, hm, vague description ...
Does this character have light hair or dark hair?!
Vague enough? Or too much?
Thinlómien
04-18-2007, 03:30 AM
Legolas, by any chance?
Ataralasse
04-18-2007, 02:03 PM
Ai! Too easy.
Your go.
The Might
05-28-2007, 06:54 AM
Thinlomien, are you going to post a new one, or should I?
The Might
07-25-2007, 12:29 PM
Ok, since nobody posted for sooo long, I will
This character received a bag of money in his mouth.
Legate of Amon Lanc
07-25-2007, 01:54 PM
Wasn't that Thror? I don't recall now exactly if I don't confuse it...
The Might
07-26-2007, 02:14 AM
No, not really.
Legate of Amon Lanc
07-26-2007, 09:33 AM
Then it was Azog? Nár received some gold from Azog "for message" and the Dwarves later made Azog (after his decapitation) "eat this".
The Might
07-30-2007, 06:05 AM
Yes. :eek:
Legate of Amon Lanc
08-01-2007, 12:07 PM
This guy was almost as old as the boy's uncle.
The Might
08-02-2007, 04:27 AM
Is the guy same as the boy?
Legate of Amon Lanc
08-02-2007, 11:07 AM
No, someone different. One person was almost as old as one boy's uncle. But it's vague description, so it refers to... well, certain situation... it's surely possible to guess it easily.
The Might
09-03-2007, 03:36 PM
Perhaps a little hint as I have many ideas but not sure what direction I shoulg go in.
Legate of Amon Lanc
09-04-2007, 06:19 AM
A hint? Hmm... what about this: The boy said it. (Meaning the boy said that that person X is almost as old as his uncle.)
Thinlómien
09-04-2007, 11:30 AM
It's Pippin, right?
And in that case the boy is Bergil.
I think I was all too concentrated on Bagginses and other Hobbiton hobbits when trying to solve this one. :rolleyes:
Legate of Amon Lanc
09-04-2007, 12:31 PM
How silly of you, maybe, but at least you are right :)
Please, continue:)
Thinlómien
09-10-2007, 07:21 AM
This person was the chief of the ten loyal ones.
Legate of Amon Lanc
09-10-2007, 07:28 AM
Hmm... what about Finrod Felagund?
Thinlómien
09-10-2007, 07:48 AM
Nope... :)
The Might
09-10-2007, 09:29 AM
I believe that Legate was reffering to the same moment, however the chief f the ten was Edrahil.
Thinlómien
09-10-2007, 09:39 AM
You're correct...
Legate of Amon Lanc
09-10-2007, 09:51 AM
Uh-huh! And now I probably understand why Lommy included that smiley there :)
Thinlómien
09-10-2007, 10:11 AM
Uh-huh! And now I probably understand why Lommy included that smiley there :)
:D
And I almost added "but you're very close" but then I decided it was too early to give any hints... ;)
The Might
09-12-2007, 07:38 AM
They settled in Lothlann sometime after the Dagor Bragollach.
The Might
09-27-2007, 10:17 AM
Anybody out there? :eek:
Legate of Amon Lanc
09-27-2007, 10:52 AM
Anybody out there? :eek:
I wanted to give chance to someone else ;) So I ignored the thread for a while. But if you insist... hmm... I can't think of anyone but the Orcs, for some time...?
Valier
09-27-2007, 04:18 PM
Nice to see that my thread is still up and kicking....I do notice that the questions are welll....not vague enough..:p Here is my first post
Vague Descriptions I came up with this new game, might be a good one!Here's how it goes...You make up a question about someone,thing,or place(,LOTR related of course) being as vague as possible.who ever gets it right starts a new one.
Please start your questions with that guy/girl,that thing,that place,or something along that line so it's not too vague! I will start...
You know that Girl with the feet?The one who's name could describe cheeks?And something soft?
The answer of course is Rosie Cotton, but you see how the consept has strayed a little...If this is more desirable for people then, hey keep on truckin' just thought I'd give a heads up.:D
The Might
09-27-2007, 06:39 PM
Yeah, that's true Legate, though I think I was looking for something else...actually forgot that myself
Anyway, you're right Valier, now I realise this is too much like trivia and too little like what you originally had in mind. Good thing you returned to poke us a bit. :D
btw, you might be interested to join THIS (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=14208)
The Might
11-18-2007, 08:55 AM
Ok, time for a new new. Remember those from the book that had snake pits?
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-18-2007, 11:08 AM
You mean goblins? :p
Yes, now it's starting to feel like good old times! Tremble, Quiz Room, your nemesis has come!:D
The Might
11-18-2007, 12:50 PM
Yep, of course it's the goblins.
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-18-2007, 01:03 PM
All right. Who were the three and two?
The Might
11-18-2007, 02:08 PM
The three and two are the victims of the attack on Bree, where 3 Men and 2 Hobbits perished.
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-18-2007, 04:07 PM
Of course. Could you say names, just for the sake of it? The thread is of course yours :)
The Might
11-18-2007, 05:04 PM
'There was poor Mat Heathertoes, and Rowlie Appledore, and little Tom Pickthorn from over the Hill; and Willie Banks from up-away, and one of the Underhills from Staddle: all good fellows, and they’re missed.'
No longer fitted with an earlier nickname.
Thinlómien
11-20-2007, 02:54 AM
Fatty Bolger?
The Might
11-20-2007, 11:18 AM
yep
Thinlómien
11-22-2007, 01:17 PM
He loved his servants as his children.
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-22-2007, 04:44 PM
You mean that green-skinned man with triangle-shaped neck? ;) I.e. Beorn?
Thinlómien
11-23-2007, 03:32 AM
Of course I do mean him. :D
Please take the thread.
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-23-2007, 04:06 AM
Remember that one who was vulnerable to disease?
Valier
11-27-2007, 10:41 AM
could it be Lalaith?
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-27-2007, 01:48 PM
That was the answer I thought someone may post :) But no, we are not told that she was vulnerable to disease, only that it affected her. But the important thing is about the vulnerability. Now since you ruled out this option, there are not many others left. :smokin:
Alonna
11-28-2007, 06:48 PM
Is it Denethor's wife Finduilas?
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-29-2007, 04:14 AM
Nope. That person did not die from that disease (or, at least, there is nothing about that in the books). :)
The Might
12-01-2007, 04:13 AM
I believe you speak of Frodo Baggins, who after returning to the Shire had long periods of illness, especially around the aniversary of his stabbing on Amon Sûl. Because of this vulnerability, he was forced to sail west.
Legate of Amon Lanc
12-01-2007, 05:01 AM
No, no... it was only one specific kind of disease and this person was vulnerable to it.
Thinlómien
12-03-2007, 08:15 AM
I keep thinking of Bilbo Baggins and his famous flu, but that is not probably the correct answer...
Legate of Amon Lanc
12-03-2007, 09:55 AM
No, though you are getting closer.
Legate of Amon Lanc
01-23-2008, 04:40 PM
A hint: you won't find the disease this person was vulnerable to in any medic's handbook.
The Might
03-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Maybe... another hint?
Legate of Amon Lanc
03-27-2008, 01:28 PM
What about this... the fact that this person had this disease ultimately caused the person to move away from its home place.
Legate of Amon Lanc
10-05-2008, 11:24 AM
Now, after half a year, no attempts were made... yet I don't belive that, at least somebody, would not see what is obvious...
The Might
11-21-2008, 10:04 AM
I believe Legate wishes to ultimately win this thread by being the last suriving person to know the answer...
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-21-2008, 10:36 AM
No, really not ;) Come on...
1. There was a person.
2. This person was vulnerable to a certain kind of disease.
3. This disease is a kind you won't usually find in a medic's handbook.
4. It caused this person, eventually, to move far from this person's home place.
5. That person did not die because of the disease, as far as we know.
Come on. That is quite a LOT of information. And, okay, I could add, for example:
6. We actually don't know anything about the person since it caught this disease.
skip spence
11-21-2008, 12:19 PM
No, really not ;) Come on...
1. There was a person.
2. This person was vulnerable to a certain kind of disease.
3. This disease is a kind you won't usually find in a medic's handbook.
4. It caused this person, eventually, to move far from this person's home place.
5. That person did not die because of the disease, as far as we know.
Come on. That is quite a LOT of information. And, okay, I could add, for example:
6. We actually don't know anything about the person since it caught this disease.
The person was Legolas and the disease was sea-longing?
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-21-2008, 12:21 PM
No, no, not really. The disease, if we were to take it literally, was not metaphorical.
Gollum the Great
11-21-2008, 02:00 PM
Would it be Turin and the Evil Breath of Angband?
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-21-2008, 02:17 PM
Nope, no way. Did you ever read he was vulnerable to it? I didn't.
Forget Angband at last. Forget ill winds. This disease did not spread by wind. It was not spread by, for example, blood contact as well. You won't get the disease if you were eating from the same plate as the person who has it. And so on.
You won't find it in a medical's handbook. Not even in a medical handbook of a medic who would work in M-E.
Gollum the Great
11-21-2008, 02:41 PM
Nope, no way. Did you ever read he was vulnerable to it? I didn't.
If I remember rightly, he got sick for awhile.
But is the real answer uhhhh, is the real answer ahhh, is the true answer....dang. I'd better delve into my deepest memories. I've only read a couple of ME books in the last two years at least and my powers of recall are rusty.
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-21-2008, 03:08 PM
Keep trying then :) The main point, though, resp. the only thing that is stated explicitely in the books is, that this person was vulnerable to the disease. There is not actually explicitely stated that this person actually caught this disease. (Although it of course is plain from the narration, but if we were really picky...)
Gollum the Great
11-21-2008, 03:51 PM
Just a thought: Arvedui III and some disease in the Northern Wastes?
The Might
11-22-2008, 09:05 AM
1. There was a person.
2. This person was vulnerable to a certain kind of disease.
3. This disease is a kind you won't usually find in a medic's handbook.
4. It caused this person, eventually, to move far from this person's home place.
5. That person did not die because of the disease, as far as we know.
I see Queen Beruthiel of Gondor and maybe her disease was catomisia?! She loathed cats and because of all the stuff she did with the cats and her strange way of acting she was sent far away from he home place. :D
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-22-2008, 10:19 AM
The disease (as you may logically conclude from what I said) is specifically named in the books. So it is not "some disease" (unspecified) nor "catomisia" ;) (something whose name you just make up without any support for it in the text) but something named in the book.
Okay, another hint (though I am not sure if it will help or if it will confuse things more ;) If it seemed confusing to you, you would perhaps do better by ignoring it): There was a certain group of inhabitants of M-E who all had this disease by default. (This person, who is the subject of the question, was not one of them, though.)
Gollum the Great
11-22-2008, 07:55 PM
You've got to be making this up, Legate.
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-23-2008, 10:16 AM
No way, my good Gollum. Okay, another hint. One of the group mentioned above died recently before the person in question left its home place. These events were closely related (not totally, like one being consequence of the other, but simply related to each other). And, to add, the death of this one mentioned above was not a result of the disease. The disease itself is not lethal. But very often throughout the history of M-E, somebody died as an outcome of that disease. However, it was not the disease itself that killed them.
That's a lot of hints, I'd say. Try to put all the evidence together and try to think.
And remember, still: we are looking for one certain person about whom we read as being vulnerable to this disease. (Like I said, there were many who had this disease, and probably also some who were vulnerable to it, but about this one we know because the book says it.)
Thinlómien
11-23-2008, 02:44 PM
I can only think of the Sackville-Bagginses and their sort of cleptomania :D, but that does not fit more than maybe half of the hints... :confused:
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-23-2008, 02:48 PM
No, but actually, you are far, far closer to the correct answer than all of those who posted here this far have been. You are very, very close, from several aspects.
The Might
11-23-2008, 03:57 PM
Cleptomania?
Well, actually I was going to say Sméagol curious "disease" of greedily wanting mroe presents for himself.
After all this affected all Hobbits, and because of it he eventually had to move far away from his home place, but did not die because of it... well ok, maybe he did.
But anyway, since you said the person did not belong to the group of people affected by it by default it cannon be right...
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-24-2008, 03:45 AM
Indeed, it isn't Sméagol. You are heading in the right direction, though. Now I think this is the time to emphasise the important thing from the original question: it is really explicitely said in the book that this person was vulnerable to some sort of disease. In the italicised part, I am not making up any metaphores of my own, I am merely recounting what the book says at some point.
And the person about whom this whole question is, just to remind of it because all the hints may have created a bit of confusing atmosphere, did not die because of this disease - at least it is not said in the books.
The Might
11-24-2008, 07:11 AM
Wait, wait, you're tricky.
Looking for what you speak of, I cam across this quote from the UT:
In a letter written in September 1954 my father said: "At the beginning of the Second Age he [Sauron] was still beautiful to look at, or could still assume a beautiful visible shape – and was not indeed wholly evil, not unless all 'reformers' who want to hurry up with 'reconstruction' and 'reorganization' are wholly evil, even before pride and the lust to exert their will eat them up. The particular branch of the High Elves concerned, the Noldor or Loremasters, were always vulnerable on the side of 'science and technology,' as we should call it: they wanted to have the knowledge that Sauron genuinely had, and those of Eregion refused the warnings of Gil-galad and Elrond. The particular 'desire' of the Eregion Elves – an 'allegory' if you like of a love of machinery, and technical devices – is also symbolized by their special friendship with the Dwarves of Moria." ~ note 8 of Concerning Galadriel and Celeborn
Ok, so this a kind of "disease", somewhat like Sméagol's greed for treasure, their greed for knowledge.
Now, who could still be like that... Saruman?
Thinlómien
11-24-2008, 11:38 AM
Wow, Might, I would think you're right, except that I'm not sure if this hint
6. We actually don't know anything about the person since it caught this disease.
fits. :confused: And what about this hint?
One of the group mentioned above died recently before the person in question left its home place. These events were closely related (not totally, like one being consequence of the other, but simply related to each other). And, to add, the death of this one mentioned above was not a result of the disease. The disease itself is not lethal. But very often throughout the history of M-E, somebody died as an outcome of that disease. However, it was not the disease itself that killed them.
It almost fits, but doesn't. Or then I'm just a little slow. :D
I guess we must just wait for Legate to come and tell you whether you're correct or not...
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-24-2008, 12:04 PM
Exactly, it doesn't fit at all. ;)
Wait, wait, you're tricky.
Looking for what you speak of, I cam across this quote from the UT:
Ok, so this a kind of "disease", somewhat like Sméagol's greed for treasure, their greed for knowledge.
Now, who could still be like that... Saruman?
And again, I did not possibly emphasise enough, or express clearly what I wanted to emphasise: I am stating only what is in the books. If I say it is a disease, it is a disease according to the books. In the context you quote, there is nothing about the lust for knowledge being a disease, or is it? It isn't. If you found it being called a disease, fine. But since you didn't, keep looking for a disease. ;)
The Might
11-25-2008, 08:09 AM
Aha!
I think I have it... you truly are tricky with your questions, but I enjoy them I must admit.
Ok, so my answer is the the Master of Lake Town.
The old Master had come to a bad end. Bard had given him much gold for the help of the Lake-people, but being of the kind that easily catches such disease he fell under the dragon-sickness, and took most of the gold and fled with it, and died of starvation in the Waste, deserted by his companions. ~ TH 1. There was a person.
2. This person was vulnerable to a certain kind of disease.
3. This disease is a kind you won't usually find in a medic's handbook.
4. It caused this person, eventually, to move far from this person's home place.
5. That person did not die because of the disease, as far as we know.
It fits with all, as he did get the disease, it is in no medic's handbook, it caused him to go to the Northern Wastes and nothing was heard of him afterwards. Although he did die of starvation, it was not the disease which caused it. And since it is said he was "of the kind" he did belong to people having this by default.
If this is wrong too, I'll first buy me a hat, then eat it.
Legate of Amon Lanc
11-25-2008, 11:17 AM
No need to buy a hat, and the less to eat it :) Well done! The Master of Laketown, what a nice figure, eh?
And... eeeeek... only now I looked at when the question was posted here in the first place... two days ago, it was exactly a year :eek: Oh my, I didn't think it was that long...
Please post a new one, Miggy. I hope it will take less time to solve... :rolleyes:
The Might
11-25-2008, 03:51 PM
Yay, me!
This brings the lore-score to Legate 100 - 1 Might. :D
No, seriously, now that I got I realise I should have done better to find that out. I'll try to figure something out, though I doubt it will be nearly as impressive.
Thinlómien
12-16-2008, 12:00 PM
*knock knock* Anybody home?
The Might
12-17-2008, 04:29 AM
Sorry, forgot about this one, I'll post a new one shortly.
The Might
12-18-2008, 02:57 AM
Chosen because he liked the Sea.
Folwren
12-18-2008, 09:20 AM
Hi! I just popped in to see what was up.
I have no Tolkien books with me, so without knowing if I'm even close to being right and being fully prepared to be told I am wrong, I will guess:
Cirdan the Shipwright.
Beregond
12-18-2008, 11:53 AM
I think you're intimating Voronwe...
The Might
12-18-2008, 03:44 PM
Bah, Beregond has it right... and so quickly! Kudos!
Beregond
12-19-2008, 12:26 AM
:D Yay!
You know that guy who was a prince? He had an unprecedented name.
~
The Might
12-19-2008, 04:38 AM
Galador, first prince of Dol Amroth.
He was prince and noone else had this name.
Beregond
12-19-2008, 09:37 AM
Perhaps true, but not who I was looking for. :)
The Might
12-19-2008, 06:53 PM
Well, guess I'll try again then.
What about Peregrin Took, referred to as "Prince of the Halflings"? He is the only one with that name, and there never was any other Hobbit with this "title", neither before nor after Pippin.
Beregond
12-19-2008, 06:57 PM
Interesting answer, but not what I was thinking. ;) I think my description was too vague.
The Might
12-19-2008, 07:05 PM
Ok, what about Faramir, Prince of Ithilien?
(btw, I am running out of true princes here) :D
Beregond
12-19-2008, 07:09 PM
There are many true Princes! Not all of them remained so. :) Oh, not Faramir, no.
Hmm, how about Vinitharya, Eldacar's name when he was a prince?
Beregond
12-19-2008, 10:49 PM
Nay. This prince was unique in more ways than one. Long life in his veins would run.
The Might
12-20-2008, 09:57 AM
Your question still remains very, very, vague, as I probably could give several answers that would all perfectly fit the description.
Ok, what about Maglor?
- name unprecedented
- prince of the Noldor
- he theoretically could still be living today in the Seventh Age, all that is told is that he never returned amongst the Elves
Beregond
12-20-2008, 10:37 AM
No... (that always intrigued me; where would Maglor go? How long could he wander alone?)
This new age prince was by parentage unique. His father died a free death.
Dior, perhaps? The first child of elves and men.
Beregond
12-21-2008, 09:22 AM
Nay, but on the right track.
Hmm...perhaps Vardamir, the son of Elros?
Beregond
12-21-2008, 07:58 PM
Off the track again. My my, I didn't intend this to be so hard...
This future King's lands encompassed even the little people.
The Might
12-21-2008, 08:01 PM
Ah then what about Aragorn's son Eldarion?
Beregond
12-21-2008, 08:08 PM
No, not Elda.... wait...YES, YES, that's him! Eldarion, Prince of Gondor, whose name means "Scion of the Eldar" I believe, and who's parents were very distinct, being a man and an elf. Aragorn his father relinquished the throne to Eldarion and died naturally like his sires of old. The odds are in favour of Eldarion inheriting long life.
And so the torch passes to you, TM!
The Might
12-25-2008, 10:06 AM
Remember the place where all but one lie?
Thinlómien
12-25-2008, 02:00 PM
Possibly Cabed-en-Aras, or its surroundings?
The Might
12-25-2008, 09:17 PM
Nope.
Thinlómien
12-26-2008, 02:52 PM
Then hat about the burial mounds of the Kings of the Rohirrim?
The Might
12-29-2008, 11:26 AM
Hmm, no.
Was there one King of Rohan not buried there, I'm not sure really...?
Pitchwife
12-29-2008, 05:11 PM
If not Rohan, then what about the tombs of the kings at Minas Tirith? Elendil was buried on Amon Anwar, but weren't his bones transferred to MT later?
By the way, is it 'lie' as in 'lie buried' or 'lie on the ground' or as in 'tell untruth'?
Beregond
12-30-2008, 12:15 AM
What about the Chamber of Mazarbul, where only Balin is not, well, lying on the floor?
The Might
12-30-2008, 08:43 AM
Lie as in lie buried.
Hmmm, just realised that Earnur was an exception, only King of Gondor not to be buried in the House of Kings, which would fit the description.
But I had something else in mind. :D
Inziladun
12-30-2008, 08:37 PM
Would it be the foot of the Meneltarma upon Númenor? Ar-Pharazôn was not there with the other Kings and Queens.
The Might
12-30-2008, 09:35 PM
Yes, I was actually loking for the name of that valley, but your description will do.
Inziladun
12-31-2008, 08:14 AM
Sorry. Noirinan should be the specific name.
Here'e a new one:
Remember the regal hunter slain by the prey?
The Might
12-31-2008, 08:16 AM
Of course I do, you mean Folca killed by the Boar of Everholt, no?
Inziladun
12-31-2008, 08:31 AM
Outstanding. Your go.
The Might
01-01-2009, 08:25 PM
Remember the one covered in white dust?
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