Survivor: Surviving the Minor Works

[Anguirel]

Let's wait for things to progress to see who's been messed with, alright, almighty Moddess?

[Diamond18]

Oooooookay. I predict you'll be voting for Chrys eventually, purely to tick me off. Prove me wrong. :p



Forgot to reply to this:

I shall be rendering a modest fee for saving the show in due course, Diamond. ;)

Oh do ye, now? So where's MY payment for that lovely death of Smith you were so looking forward to? :D

[Estelyn Telcontar]

How monotonously predictable the voting is today! A few scattered alternatives, and already a majority for Giles. Well, just to do "something completely different", I shall vote for someone who has not been mentioned today:

++Alf Prentice, King of Faerie

[The Saucepan Man]

How monotonously predictable the voting is today! :D

The difference, however, is that these votes have all been prompted by different motives. I am honouring the pledge I made yesterday, Tuor has always had it in for Giles, Celuien thinks she's avenging herself on Ang, Elempi is just lashing out and Ang ... well, who knows what Ang is up to?

On prior days, the majority vote has generally been directed towards a single purpose: SOS (save our Smith).

It all bodes marvellously well for forthcoming days and, indeed, the final. And how wonderful the prospect of eliminating the last surviving title character is.

:smokin:

(Btw Di, Ang likes Dragons. Though whether he considers Chrys a "proper" Dragon, I know not. For my own part, I merely question his presence in the Faerie team. He was far too practical and pragmatic a Dragon to be a true Faerie creature. Faerie by birth maybe, but not be nature. ;) )

[Diamond18]

My Faerie/Not-Faerie classifications are entirely random and based on whims. And a desire to have to two tribes of equal number.

I know Ang likes dragons, that's why a vote for Chrys would merely be for spite. ;)

[littlemanpoet]

So where's MY payment for that lovely death of Smith you were so looking forward to? :DLovely? Your tastes are indeed questionable. But you have given me an idea for my revenge.
:cool:

[Celuien]

Lady Celuien, you have my full support. However, I would appreciate a movement against the turbulent priest tomorrow.
What, you vote for my death, then ask for my support? I find that a difficult option to accept. Very difficult. :p I'm afraid I won't be able to join you tomorrow unless I am forced to out of necessity.

I'm not telling what that situation would comprise that necessity. :smokin:

[tom bombariffic]

childhood schmildhood, I have my reasons. And I will not be subject to any more vile speculation thank you very much.

And Estelyn, voting for the KING OF FAERIE? What did he do wrong? Methinks you're just being confrontational. Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry-a-dillo.

I stand by my choice. And when she finally goes, the satisfaction will be all the sweeter.

bombariffic

[The Only Real Estel]

++ Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo (Farmer Giles of Ham)

If I've said it once (which I have) I've said it a thousand times (which I also have), I'll not waste space & time repeating myself now.

Thanks to SpM for actually honoring his agreement (hey, this is Survivor, remember :p). Not that he doesn't have time to change it still... ;)

[The Saucepan Man]

Thanks to SpM for actually honoring his agreement ...You mean you expected me not to ...

Ah well, in that case ... ;)

No. I'll stick with my vote. While I like Giles as a character and find his tale to be the best of the Minors, I prefer to vote in a way which enlivens the game than purely according to my tastes. It amuses me to see most of the major minor characters go down and I think it is likely to make for a more interesting finale.

Besides, it doesn't look like it would make much difference now.

And I was truly grateful for your vote yesterday.

[Bêthberry]

My! Someone I haven't yet voted for. I must correct this oversight. Or, in the immortal words of many a WWII submarine adventure: dive, dive, dive!

+ + Chrysophylax Dives

[Alcarillo]

Down with the Latin-naméd blunderbuss-brandisher!

++Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo (Farmer Giles of Ham)

After all those days of voting for him, I finally get to see his head on the chopping block...

[Formendacil]

What a deadly boring day...

Say what you like, man of many Saucepans, but this blind coalition of Giles-voters are dead boring. Where is the suspence in a predetermined race?

Sauce at least has a good excuse... but most of you? Pathetic.

Alas, but there is virtually nobody to join with to form even an attempt at a counter-bandwaggon. But I shall try- for the sake of interest.

-- Nell, ++ Alf, King of Faerie

I too have memories of Alien Alf- and I was an easily scared child at the time...

[Gurthang]

Hello!

Just thought I'd jump in to join the bandwagon! :D

++Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo (Farmer Giles of Ham)

++And your little dog, too! ( :rolleyes: )

Oh, guess I can't do that.

--his little dog, Gram

I best stick around; got to make sure Bêthberry doesn't off my personal favorite!

[Diamond18]

Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo (Farmer Giles of Ham) - 8 votes

Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie: 1 vote

Queen of Faerie: 1 vote

Chrysophylax Dives: 1 vote

And so, The Only Real Estel gleefully shot Giles with his own blunderbuss. However, the wound was not fatal, so Alcarillo assigned him to Mordor for anakronistic usage of said blunderbuss. (Giles, not TORE.)


Day the Thirty-Sixth finds 7 contestants remaining:

Also, I've rearranged the tribes on a whim:


The Dudes:

Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie
The Parson


The Chicks:

Goldberry
Queen of Faerie
Nell


The Beasties:

Gram
Chrysophylax Dives

[Formendacil]

Okay, the "chicks" really do need culling. Let's even out this field a little...

And the dullest of the lot is clearly Nell.

++ Nell

Once again into the breech....

[Celuien]

++ Chrysophylax Dives, the hypocritical dragon.

[tom bombariffic]

In the interests of protecting the lovely little dragony waggony, I'll have a crack at

++Nell

what? you didn't really think I was going to vote for the queen of Faerie again did you? Wouldn't want to irk fraulein estelyn any more than I have been.

bombariffic

[Anguirel]

++THE PARSON

A disgrace that this pedantic fundamentalist now represents 50% of the male population.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

A difficult choice between a (can he even be
called a beastie) :) Gram) and the preacher-----ah

+ + The Parson

since rumor has it he was seen smirking at Chrysophylax Dives
and as the proverb goes: "Never laugh at live dragons."

[The Only Real Estel]

++ Nell

For reasons that have already been stated that I don't have time to go into now. :)

Poor Chrys...at least he tried to be good. :(

[Gurthang]

What's this? New tribes?

Ah, my two favorites are now together! GO The Beasties! :D

Hmm... Well, I've got nothing against this Parson guy, other than he must go eventually, and quite frankly I didn't realize Nell was a girl! :eek:

I think I'll wait and see how the votes slide.

[littlemanpoet]

++THE PARSON

A disgrace that this pedantic fundamentalist now represents 50% of the male population.
Thou hypocritical collar monger. Thou hast assisted the ridding of other men, so the fault is thine.

++ Nell

She wishes to go the way of her uncle and grandfather. I vote to put her out of her misery.

[Celuien]

What, no one else wants to get rid of the Dragon? Yet. :D

To make sure the Parson is safe...

-- Chrysophylax

++ Nell

[Estelyn Telcontar]

++Parson

[Anguirel]

Why are people so keen on protecting the blimming hypocritical Churchman?

OK. I admit it. I've conceived a passion for Nell. Her brave resilience against all my efforts! Her unexpected depth!

That leer I directed at her, my friends, was a leer of love.

Save my paramour, friendly Downers! Turbulent priest, begone!

And Diamond, if Nell is evicted have mercy...

[Diamond18]

Oh, this will be fun.

[The Saucepan Man]

Say what you like, man of many Saucepans, but this blind coalition of Giles-voters are dead boring. Where is the suspence in a predetermined race?I have found the reaction of the Smith lobby to his eviction fascinating, actually. They have largely voted together, still. I wonder whether out of habit or whether there is another they wish to protect.

I also find their choice of Giles as the focus of their post-Smith fury interesting. Why Giles, I wonder? A number had already been voting for him. But, given his major character status, I found some of the votes strange.

So today, the main focus seems to be Nell and, less so, the Parson. I rather agree that, in the interests of balance, one of the "chicks" should go. But I still think that

+ + QUEEN OF FAERIE

is the one who's behaviour is most worthy of public rebuke.

[Celuien]

I wonder whether out of habit or whether there is another they wish to protect.
Isn't that obvious?

Save The Parson! :cool:

(Or is it? ;))

[Bêthberry]

For his sneaky way of suggesting he knew how to read the script on Tailbiter when he really had to go and look it up. Arcane knowledge! He belongs in the Da Vinci Code:

+ + Parson

[Diamond18]

Nell: 5 votes

The Parson: 4 votes

Queen of Faerie: 1 vote


And so, as Ang declared his undying passion for Nell, she recoiled from him in horror.

"You what?"

He dove to one knee and grasped her hand. "I adore you, my sweet candy truffle, come away with me where we will make beautiful love together!"

"But... but..." she tried to extricate her hand, "you aided in the death of my husband!"

"Of course, he was in the way! And besides, he was having an affair with the Queen of Faerie, we did you a favor!"

"Erm... well I have children."

"Forget the little rugrats! You can bear my children and have a household of little Ang's running around." Ang attempted his most charming leer, but alas, it failed.

Nell, running out of verbal defenses, turned and ran. She ran, and ran, and ran, and no one ever heard from her again. Rumor has it she assumed a new identity and got plastic surgery to prevent Ang from ever tracking her down.


Day the Thirty-Seventh finds 6 contestants remaining:


The Dudes:

Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie
The Parson


The Chicks:

Goldberry
Queen of Faerie


The Beasties:

Gram
Chrysophylax Dives

[Gurthang]

I'm mad I missed that vote. Oh, well, it won't kill me here! :D

++The Queen of Faerie

For having an affair... with Nell's husband... I forget his name. :rolleyes: :D

[Anguirel]

Alas! Alas! Scorn'd love, &c

++THE PARSON

Can't you all see this heretic is now preaching the Word of Smith?

[tom bombariffic]

finally, some allies in the fight against the

++Queen Of Faerie

if she doesn't go today, I may cry.

bombariffic

[Celuien]

I can sympathize with your grief, oh poor rejected Anguirel. ;) I'm dead, and you lost your Nell.

++ THE PARSON

[Tuor in Gondolin]

+ + The Parson

Doesn't have a prayer of a chance to win
against fairie nobility and dragons.

[Gurthang]

Fools! Choose now which is worse!

A diminutive wayward parson, who's only crime is being easily sidetracker from his way?

OR

A Queen, lustrous and evil, who had an affair at her height of power, no doubt plummeting her entire society into a pit of greed and debauchery?

Hardly a tough choice, if you ask me. :p

[Lalaith]

Hmmm...The more I hear about this Queen, the more I like her. Where do I vote to save her?

[littlemanpoet]

++ GRAM

You'll not get me sidetracked from ridding the Minor Works of this useless yapper.

[Anguirel]

Lalaith, the Parson is currently the best hope for saving the Queen...

[Lalaith]

Right-ho.

++PARSON

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I'm curious - have all of you who are slandering the Faerie Queen's reputation actually read the story in question? Or are you just going by hearsay, reading your own ideas into an interpretation which is unrelated to the actual personality of the character?!

[The Saucepan Man]

Or are you just going by hearsay, reading your own ideas into an interpretation which is unrelated to the actual personality of the character?!One should never let the facts get in the way of a decent lynching argument ...

+ + THE QUEEN OF FAERIE

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I will vote for

++The Parson


I don't think minor characters should stay to the end.

[Formendacil]

It's foolish of me, in light of my ardent desire to be on the winning team, to vote with LMP in this case, but as it happens... he is Right. What is Gram still doing here? I seem to recall an anti-dog lobby on this thread a while back, and it seems to me that there is some unfinished business to attend to:

++ Gram, the least important and most boring character left.

(P.S. I would go after the Parson, but he's got too much support... Can't join a bandwaggon I didn't help start, you know... ;) )

[Anguirel]

Pssst. You vote Parson today and I'll help finish the dog cull tomorrow.

[Celuien]

Pssst. Me too. ;)

[Formendacil]

Let's see.... One Anguirel + One Celuien + My vote = Three Votes = Start of a decent bandwaggon...

Okay, it's a deal. But woe to you should you break your oaths! The vengeance of Isildur on the Men of the Dead shall be as nothing compared with me!

-- Gram, ++ The Parson

[littlemanpoet]

Okay. Deal. How can I resist those sweet whispers in the ear? :p

Not you, Anguirel! :rolleyes:

-- GRAM

++ PARSON

[Celuien]

Okay, it's a deal. But woe to you should you break your oaths! The vengeance of Isildur on the Men of the Dead shall be as nothing compared with me!
Fear not, oh noble Formendacil. For no Oathbreaker am I, but having given my word, am bound to keep it.

[Anguirel]

I shall be as Oath-observing and faithful as Curufin himself.

[tom bombariffic]

And I shall not be troubling myself to vote tomorrow.

bombariffic

[Bêthberry]

What kind of name is Gram for a dog? Sounds like an aged P. "Now Gram, don't get upset. Children will be children." "No, Gram, your glasses aren't lost. They are on top of your head." "Eat your porridge, Gram; we can't help it that you lost your false teeth." "No, Gram, there's no man hiding under your bed."

On the other hand, parsnips were never my favourite vegetable, even when smashed with sherry and butter.

+ + The Parson

[Alcarillo]

I don't feel like joining the Parson bandwagon, and Gram's going tomorrow, so...

++Goldberry

Tom Bombadil was kicked out the first day, so what's his wife still doing here? And besides, she belongs in the Legendarium.

[Diamond18]

The Queen's enemies were thwarted yet again, and Ang took out his frustration on the man of the cloth:

The Parson: 8 votes

Queen of Faerie: 3 votes

Gram: 1 vote

Goldberry: 1 vote


And so, the Parson was chopped up into little bits, much like parsley, and garnished a salad that was (you guessed it) fed to the dragon.


Day the Thirty-Eighth finds 5 contestants remaining, and one tribe to rule them all:


One Tribe to Rule Them All:

Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie
Goldberry
Queen of Faerie
Gram
Chrysophylax Dives

(A note, the last three contestants will appear in a game of Mega-Survivor... don't look at me, look at Ang... but anyway, it's something to keep in mind. Youll be seeing the final three again....)

[Laitoste]

A query: isn't Master Giles' dog named Garm, not Gram? That's what the Tolkien Reader has been whispering in my ear... :p BTW, I just reread Farmer Giles of Ham last night, otherwise I would never have noticed... :D

[Formendacil]

A query: isn't Master Giles' dog named Garm, not Gram? That's what the Tolkien Reader has been whispering in my ear... :p BTW, I just reread Farmer Giles of Ham last night, otherwise I would never have noticed... :D

So we have been playing this game with an IMPOSTER!!!

Fie on him! All more the reason to see this knavy cur away! This son of... well, it's a naughty word and all, but it IS literally true... This hellhound of Morgoth!

And all those other canine epithlets that can be thrown at him shall apply too.

++ Gram/Garm/the remaining dog

[Anguirel]

Aye, aye.

++GARM RASSENDYLL, THE PURPORTED FARM DOG OF RURITANIA

[Celuien]

Whatever his name,

++ GRAM/GARM the Dog

needs to go today.

There he goes again, getting everyone into trouble. Can't even keep his name straight ;)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Garm is the correct name indeed - how could I have missed that so long?! I reread the bits of the tale about him; he starts out a big-mouthed coward and ends up thus: Garm had a gold collar, and while he lived roamed at his will, a proud and happy dog, insufferable to his fellows; for he expected all other dogs to accord him the respect due to the terror and splendour of his master.
Therefore:

++Garm

[Anguirel]

I predict a Sauce derived rearguard action aimed at one of the Faeries.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

+ + Garm/Gram (whatever)

So we can get to the Gang of Four.
Although I may not be able to vote tomorrow. :(

It's interesting how Goldberry has slipped under
the radar so far. The smallest number of eviction
votes for any candidate?

[littlemanpoet]

++ GARM

As agreed.

[Bêthberry]

Garm is the correct name indeed - how could I have missed that so long?! I reread the bits of the tale about him; he starts out a big-mouthed coward and ends up thus:
Quote:
Garm had a gold collar, and while he lived roamed at his will, a proud and happy dog, insufferable to his fellows; for he expected all other dogs to accord him the respect due to the terror and splendour of his master.

Therefore:

++Garm

Well now, and who was it that asked about this suspicious name just yesterday? ;)

typical dog behaviour I say. Doggone.

+ + GRAM/GARM

[Alcarillo]

++Goldberry

No, you fools! Goldberry is darting under the radar! Or at least get rid of her tomorrow. That way, there'd be one each from the three tribes before the last re-shuffling.

[Diamond18]

I prefer to call him Gram. :p

Gram: 7 votes

Goldberry: 1 vote


And so, Farmer Giles' dog went the way of his master -- shot by the blunderbuss.


Day the Thirty-Ninth finds 4 contestants remaining:

This will be the last day to vote for who you want off. Tomorrow will be the final day, unless by some strange twist of fate there is a triple eviction today.


The Final Four:

Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie
Goldberry
Queen of Faerie
Chrysophylax Dives

[Anguirel]

++THE QUEEN OF FAERIE

Boring to have two Faeries in the final, and a Queen won the last Survivor.

[Formendacil]

Let's bring the final round down to a Man, a Woman, and a Creature. And since we have two Faeries, it's only fair to vote off the Queen.

Once again, I vote with Anguirel- probably for the last time this game.

++ The Queen of Faerie

[tom bombariffic]

finally.

except I have a theory. My voting for the queen has a negative correlation with the chance of her going.

So even though I want her to go, I'm voting for the ++King of Faerie to be on the safe side.

bombariffic

[Anguirel]

Remarkable lack of interest on this day so far...perhaps this will shake things up

--THE QUEEN OF FAERIE, ++GOLDBERRY

[Tuor in Gondolin]

+ + Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie

Which could lead to the intriguing question.
What happens if there is a fourfold eviction
and there are no survivors? :D

[Celuien]

Votes for the royalty of Faerie are rather humdrum.

++ GOLDBERRY

For not keeping better control of Tom's less melodious tendencies.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Well, to keep this bag of nuts well mixed -

++Chrysophylax

Don't you think a greedy and ever-hungry dragon would be a liability to the survival of the others? Or are you all hoping for a blood-thirsty outcome of the game?!

[Kuruharan]

Estelyn, you've just now made a mockery of many years of REB!!!

Think Shame!!!

Change your vote or Mogul Bildur shalt return from the Abyss!!!

++ Goldberry

I mean, honestly, what does she do for the story?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You don't *really* want an even lengthier sequel to that finally closed chapter, do you, Kuru?! :eek:

[Kuruharan]

The question is...do you?

[Anguirel]

Excellent. That served its purpose.

--GOLDBERRY, ++THE QUEEN OF FAERIE

[The Saucepan Man]

I dislike goody-two-shoes types.

+ + Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie

[littlemanpoet]

The least deserving of the honor is:

++ Chrysophylax

Much as I love the dragon, the other three were good, not evil, and on this very decisive day, I snap my fingers in the faces of the perversely minded gobsnappers who prefer evil to good, be it even in jest.

[Gurthang]

Let's get this final round going!

++The Queen of Faerie

I don't know how she survived after that little affair she had...

Also Tolkien and fairies (or faeries :p) shouldn't be mixed.

Get her gone!

[tom bombariffic]

Right, this is looking dangerous.

--KING OF FARIE

++ QUEEN OF FAERIE

hope this isn't the kiss of death to the queen bandwaggon.

bombariffic

[Bêthberry]

Chryslers are gas guzzlers.

+ + Chrysophylax Dives

[Kuruharan]

Better to be on the safe side.

-- Goldberry

++ Queen of Faerie

What Gurthang said.

[Gurthang]

Better to be on the safe side.

-- Goldberry

++ Queen of Faerie

What Gurthang said.

About the affair or the fairies?

Oh, and if anyone is wondering about said affair:

"Of course, he was in the way! And besides, he was having an affair with the Queen of Faerie, we did you a favor!"

Case closed.

[Celuien]

-- GOLDBERRY
++ Chrysophylax

[Alcarillo]

++Goldberry

How does Goldberry deserve to be in the Top Three? Ah, well. I was hoping for a King/Queen/Dragon showdown, but now it looks like you'd rather see Goldberry have a shot at winning.

Funny how long she's outlasted her husband.

[Kuruharan]

About the affair or the fairies?

Both, actually.

[Diamond18]

It's called regicide when you kill a king, what's it called when you kill a queen...?

Queen of Faerie: 6 votes

Chrysophylax Dives: 4 votes

Goldberry: 3 votes

Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie: 2 votes


And so, with cries of "Off with 'er 'ead!" they guillotined the Queen of Faerie.


Day the Forty and Finaleth finds 3 remaining contestants.

It will last 48 hours and end at Midnight CDT on Wednesday the 24th. (Okay, technically, only 47 hours since I'm putting this up an hour late. Whatever.)

VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANT TO WIN

If there is a tie, I will exact moderator privilege to break it and declare the winner.


The Finalists

Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie
Goldberry
Chrysophylax Dives

[Estelyn Telcontar]

VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANT TO WIN

Now does that mean our vote should be the opposite of otherwise? Should it be looking like

--XXXXXXX

?

[Formendacil]

Now does that mean our vote should be the opposite of otherwise? Should it be looking like

--XXXXXXX

?

Regular vote, like so:

++ Chyrsophylax Dives

And yes, that is my vote. Dragon power, all the way.

[Anguirel]

Chryssy isn't a real dragon...

++THE KING OF FAERIE

He's basically Celeborn in another guise. Celebornites! To my banner!

[Formendacil]

Chryssy isn't a real dragon...

++THE KING OF FAERIE

He's basically Celeborn in another guise. Celebornites! To my banner!

Celeborn?

Celeborn is a mighty warrior and great wise strategist of high Telerin pedigree. Alf is more of a generically mysterious cook. If he's any Elf from the Lord of the Rings, it's Gildor Inglorion.

At least Chyrsophylax puts up an interesting character, one that the reader can enjoy. Alf is pretty much boring- almost as boring as Goldberry.

[tom bombariffic]

++Goldberry

The ol' ball and chain.

bombariffic

[Kuruharan]

Chryssy isn't a real dragon

Not a real dragon...humph!

Out of all of Tolkien's dragons, he's the only one that made it to the end of the story.

++ Chrysophylax Dives

[littlemanpoet]

++ CHRYSOPHYLAX DIVES

Now that we're down to the FINALS, I'm changing up my strat, and voting for who I really want to win. He IS the most interesting of the three, and he's smart enough to know that he can outlast ol' Giles and go back to his hills and get his treasure back, ... not to mention give a certain stewpid Giant a tongue lashing, tail lashing, and general whoop-on.

So thanks, everybody, so far, for playing into my ultimate plan. And you all thought I wanted Smith to win..... :D

[Celuien]

I've given this some thought.

Both of the candidates (Smith and the Queen of Faerie) I would have wanted to take the title are gone. I'm left with the following choice:

Goldberry: Just doesn't strike me as a winner for the competition. Marrying Tom after he kidnapped her and all that.

Alf: I know you want me to vote for him, Ang. But I thought it over, and I just don't see him as a Celeborn model. And he still has the same name as the furry alien that I can't stand the sight of. :p Sorry, but I can't vote for him.

Chrysophylax: Not my favorite dragon, as I said a couple of times before. But at least he's more interesting than Goldberry and isn't a synonym for an obnoxious extraterrestrial. Kuru also makes him interesting. ;)

So, though it's with a heavy heart that mourns the loss of the Queen and Smith, I vote for:

++ Chrysophylax Dives

[Anguirel]

Zzzz. Oh well, I suppose it's poetic justice; I must have caused such boredom in the Hobbit Survivor final round...

[Gurthang]

++Chrysophylax Dives



Cause Dragons are flippin' sweet! Gosh!



:rolleyes:

Okay, reasons Chrysophylax should win:

1. He's got the coolest name of almost anybody in all of Tolkien's works.

2. He is, as Kuru points out, the only dragon to survive one of Tolkien's stories.

3. The only people who can defeat Dragons are Mighty Warrior Men named Turin and a Handsome Bowman named Bard who has a cool Black Arrow. Clearly Alf and Goldberry would be murderlated by Chrysophylax.

4. Dragons are flippin' sweet!

Join the Bandwagon of Victory! Vote Chrysophylax Dives!

[Tuor in Gondolin]

While the worm should win, and it seems
will, considerable consideration should be
given for Goldberry for not only
tolerating would would seem to have been a "shotgun
marriage" by TB, but also for the forebearance
for not dispatching him after the 10,000th
rhyming answer response to comments such
as "dinner's ready", will you PLEASE wipe
your feet before coming in the house", "why do
you always leave the seat up!", etc.

+ + Goldberry

[The Saucepan Man]

Are these votes retractable?

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Chryssy isn't a real dragon... ~Ang
Out of all of Tolkien's dragons, he's the only one that made it to the end of the story. ~KuruAnd therefore a real survivor.

++ Chrysophylax

[Diamond18]

Yes, Sauce, they're retractable.

[Anguirel]

Wait! Everyone! Reconsider! You're about to openly vote for the favourite of the Moddess!

Now, some time ago Smaug won this game. He has the Dragon-power factor. He destroyed a Dwarven kingdom, gained a priceless and bewitching hoard, talks in riddles, and dies in an iconic confrontation with an epic hero.

The last especially is a vital prerequisite for a proper dragon.

Chryssy is a parody of a dragon, up against a parody of a hero. He eludes death, causes no serious damage, and is part of no noble, dramatic tragidy, but a burlesque comedy. His name is cod-Greek, not Nordic and scary.

There is another choice, my friends!

The Faerie King! The King in the Wood!

One of the most spinechilling and haunting images of folklore. The Erlkonig, Oberon, Herne the Hunter, William Rufus. The Rider of the Wild Hunt!

His disguise as a Prentice only emphasises his power. The King is no goody-two-shoes or mysterious cook; but these are his guises. His actual power is very real and terrible. He's the dark side of Faerie!

And yes, Celeborn and Thranduil are variants on him, taking different aspects.

No King has won Survivor yet. But I think this is a very opportune moment to break the trend, rather than voting for a second, inferior, Dragon.

[Formendacil]

Face it, Anguirel... Most Tolkien fans think dragons are cool. Most Tolkien fans AREN'T necessarily King-fans. You are, I can be, and the Phantom seems to be... but the majority are in it for the Frodos, not the Fëanors.

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, Sauce, they're retractable.Thanks. Just checking.

All in all, I am not disappointed with the three finalists. Each are secondary characters in their tales and it is fitting that they should be given the opportunity to shine rather than their title counterparts. But which is most worthy of the title of Minor Works Survivor?

Alf the Prentice, the Faerie King: Not my personal choice, but I respect anyone capable of ruling over the chaotic and perilous realm that was Faerie. Ang's comparison of him with Celeborn strikes a chord with me, but for the wrong reasons I'm afraid. Like Celeborn he was bland and characterless, and like Celeborn he was given the run around by his more interesting wife. But even Celeborn was a more impressive chap than this fellow. The comparison with Thranduil is apt, I suppose, but whoever saw Thranduil as a worthy Survivor winner?

Goldberry: Tuor makes a good point that she must have had the patience of a saint to put up with old Tom's foolery. But she was forcibly captured by a faintly ridiculous engima in a blue coat, yellow boots and a feather in his cap, which does not speak well of her as a worthy Survivor winner. Either that or she surrendered willingly to him, in which case she only has herself to blame.

Chrysophlax Dives: Now here we surely have a worthy winner. Not a real Dragon you say, Ang? I rather disagree. He was just as capable of vanquishing knights, distressing damsels and terrorising villages as the next Dragon. What marks him out from the others is that he was astute and pragmatic enough to realise that flying about in a hissy fit, bellowing smoke and breathing flames, was not always the appropriate thing to do. Perhaps not your steroetypical Dragon, but a real enough one nonetheless, and smarter than your average specimen. The thinking man's Dragon, no less. A true Survivor, and so worthy of the title.

+ + CHRYSOPHLAX DIVES

Wait! Everyone! Reconsider! You're about to openly vote for the favourite of the Moddess!Maybe so, but he also happens to be my favourite. And besides, us Entish Bow types should stick together. :smokin:

[Anguirel]

Glory supporter...

And "whoever saw Thranduil as a worthy Survivor winner?"

Think, Sauce, do you really have to ask that question? The answer is quite obvious, and it's talking to you now...

[Diamond18]

Winner:
CHRYSOPHYLAX DIVES -- 7 votes

Second place runner-up:
Goldberry -- 2 votes

Third place runner-up:
Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie -- 1 vote

All hale the champeeeeeeeeeeeen! Chrysophylax Dives, pragmatic dragon, true survivor, super cool REB character, and moddess favorite! :D ;)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/TheKents/Art/Smileys/flamet.gif

Goldberry and Alf are awarded by not being eaten, brutilized, humiliated, or otherwise maimed.

Thanks to all who participated over the last 40 or so days. It was great fun for me, and I hope for all of you. :)

I was going to write something more elaborate for the ending but I've had a certain WW game taking up my mental energies, so... yeah.

[Kuruharan]

And the Alliance of Ultra-DOOM has its revenge!!!

Boo-YAA!!! :D :D

[Anguirel]

I still won my private game and very narrowly managed to post the most...

[Formendacil]

I still won my private game and very narrowly managed to post the most...

Pah! You were anti-Chrysophylax! "Won your private game" indeed. Sounds like rhetoric to make us think that you aren't downright furious about him winning, and ready to kill us all with very messy and bloody deaths.

:p

I, on the other hand, am basking in the sweet glow of victory... Chysophylax making the finals was very much one of my hopes (newbies, take note that I never once mentioned him or anything to do with him negatively or positively thus far). And a worthy winner he is!

Kudos to Diamond for excellent modding! The game started out a little slow, but it built towards a fine finale, and was tons of fun.

The Mega-Survivor is next, right?

[Anguirel]

Aha. Yes. Now who are we going to persuade to mod it?

Alright. Revelation time. All Survivor Mods convened in a Guild and decided that we'd have a final season of Mega-Survivor.

Mega-Survivor will have thirty contestants-the top and bottom three from every game played so far.

If you're interested in modding it, please apply to this thread. The Signoria dei Moderatori will then select the most suitable candidate.

[Formendacil]

We are, of course, reserving the right to turn down any and all candidates on whatsoever grounds we desire.

Of course, that's highly unlikely to happen, seeing as that would mean Moderation by Commitee, and that would be truly a nightmare. *Formendacil has had troubles of late regarding commitees, and would assign them to Mordor were he not so lazy. Fortunately, they're probably already there*

Hmm... we're not going to have any duplication of candidates from one game or another, I hope? I mean, Elrond's all very nice and all, but I hope he doesn't have two shots at the crown.

~Michael A. Joosten - Survivor Moderator Emeritus~

[Diamond18]

This is the roster, which I copied from a PM from Ang and added the appropriate MW peeps:


From LOTR

Merry
Gimli
Hama
The Witch-King
Gandalf
Arwen

From Silmarillion

Maglor
Sauron
Elbereth
Osse
Manwe
Ingwe

From Hobbit

Smaug
The Bullroarer
Gloin
Durin
Ori
Bofur

From Second Age

Tar-Miriel
Celebrimbor
Celebrian
Thorondor
Tar-Aldarion
Ar-Pharazon

From Minor Works

Chrysophylax Dives
Goldberry
Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie
Perry-the-Winkle
Princess Pam
Tom Bombadil

[Diamond18]

I still won my private game and very narrowly managed to post the most...

Posting the most is a worthy aim. And what exactly is the private game?

[Anguirel]

Oh sorry, that was it. And let me tell you it was tricky! I managed to outstrip you, Diamond, only to face competition from Sauce...

[tom bombariffic]

I'd like to do it but can't really, as I'll be away for a couple of days in about 2 weeks' time, which would be slap in the middle of the game period.

I've got quite a nice idea of how to organise voting though - vote for a character from each of the first 3 games one day, and the last 2 games the next (so you have 5 candidates, one from each game). On the 3rd day, vote for who you want out of those 5, and the bottom 3 leave. At this last stage, each member could have 2 votes to assign as they please (both to one character, or 1 x two different characters), meaning you can choose to campaign against one character, or spread the vote out. Makes tactical voting to save one character easier too. And hopefully will keep all the groups in it, at least for a while.

On this basis you'd get down to the last 9 characters after 21 days, after which the game could proceed as normal for the finale.

just an idea.

bombariffic

[The Saucepan Man]

Hurrah! :D

I would have been happy with Giles or Garm winning, but Chrys was my favoured candidate right from the outset.

Glory supporter... Hardly. It would not have been difficult to decipher from my comments on this thread that I wanted a contestant from Farmer Giles of Ham to win. Nor would it have been difficult to work out from my general approach to these games exactly which contestant that would be. :p

Still, my main objective throughout much of the game was to eliminate Smith and that was successfully accomplished, albeit a little later than I would have liked.

And the Alliance of Ultra-DOOM has its revenge!!!Quite So. :)

Oh sorry, that was it. And let me tell you it was tricky! I managed to outstrip you, Diamond, only to face competition from Sauce...Er, given that no one was aware of this little private competition of yours, it was hardly a challenge for you ...

Hmm. Had I known that the first three evictees in each game would be eligible for Mega-Survivor, I might have made some different choices in the opening stages of each. Still, there are some welcome returns there. And also some favoured candidates for early eviction ...

Nice to see that Elrond hasn't made the grade. I had thought him a runner up in one of the shows. He had enough shots at it.

I'd love to mod, but I am afraid that I really would be unable to spare the time. A suggestion, though. I wonder if there is any way of working tasks into the game, as in the real Survivor. As part of the contest I mean, rather than simply as spurious voting rationale.

[Anguirel]

Calm down Sauce, I must have my little solace...

Interesting how well the Dwarves have done due to the culling in the Hobbit! Talk about long-term gain!

[Tuor of Gondolin]

A suggestion:

At some time in the distant future it might be
interesting to have an all-orc Survivor. There
are a surprising number of orc/goblin
candidates, most named. Although the
island would probably be in a terrible state
after the contest. (As PJ might say: "Looks
like meats back on the table, boys.") :eek:

[Bêthberry]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/TheKents/Art/Smileys/flamet.gif



Ah ha! Di came up with this game just so she could use that way cool dragon smiley!


We are, of course, reserving the right to turn down any and all candidates on whatsoever grounds we desire.

Of course, that's highly unlikely to happen, seeing as that would mean Moderation by Commitee, and that would be truly a nightmare. *Formendacil has had troubles of late regarding commitees, and would assign them to Mordor were he not so lazy. Fortunately, they're probably already there.

Fortunately, Eru so loved Middle-earth that he sent not a committee but a wizard. :D

Cheers, all.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

As so often happens, having more time to vote means I also had more time to forget to vote. Sorry - though my vote wouldn't have changed the outcome significantly anyway...

[littlemanpoet]

I've been stewing and brewing on a Survivor game of a completely different nature, more along the lines of reward challenges and immunities, and all that stuff, with 16 BD members fighting it out for the right to receive the big pot at the end of the game: reps from 50 volunteers. :p The challenges could be stuff like: "find three posts in Books in which Bethberry and davem agree; first member to report them wins the reward." and so forth..... Yeah, I know the 50 volunteers all repping one individual at once might skew the rep system, but heck it was an idea. :rolleyes:

[Lhunardawen]

I've been stewing and brewing on a Survivor game of a completely different nature, more along the lines of reward challenges and immunities, and all that stuff, with 16 BD members fighting it out for the right to receive the big pot at the end of the game: reps from 50 volunteers. :p The challenges could be stuff like: "find three posts in Books in which Bethberry and davem agree; first member to report them wins the reward." and so forth..... Yeah, I know the 50 volunteers all repping one individual at once might skew the rep system, but heck it was an idea. :rolleyes:
A fantastic one, Elempi, but it's too much of a, ehem, good thing...

Nilp once wanted to mod Survivor: The Ignored, but I don't know if he's still up to it. Seems like he'll have to abandon the idea, anyway.

[Bêthberry]

The challenges could be stuff like: "find three posts in Books in which Bethberry and davem agree; first member to report them wins the reward." and so forth.....

Is this a desperate attempt to increase the traffic in Books? :rolleyes: Truly, you must be a sadist, LMP, really. And you think the rest of us are masochists. Or, you think we have too much time on our hands. Oh, wait, don't answer that one! ;) :D

OR: What Lhunardawen said!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Elempi, tasks shouldn't be impossible! :eek: The moderator of Books doesn't think there are three posts in which those two particular members agree... ;)

[Formendacil]

Well, other than potential Moderatorly problems, I see no reason why LMP couldn't run his Survivor concurrently with the more tradition kind. His Survivor is more of a BARROW-DOWNS survivor, as opposed to this tradition which is more of a MIDDLE-EARTH Survivor. A fine distinction, but an important one, like the difference between "Your LotR Dream" and "Barrow-Downs Dreams".

Personally, I'd find LMP's idea to be hard, because of the effort involved. The real charm, to my way of thinking, regarding these Survivor games, is the lack of effort involved. One doesn't have to post a lot, have reasoning that requires a great deal of thought, or even commit to every day. You can pop in and out, you can be silly, you can have fun. Really, a no-effort game (except for the Mod, but he/she is a special case).

[Diamond18]

Well, it seems that so far we have zero (0) people wanting to mod Mega-Survivor. I think you should just do it, Ang, since it is your brainchild, and all.

As to the Barrow-Downs Survivor, it's quite the idea. I'm not sure I'd really be up for it, though, for much the same reason as Form outlines above. Also, I'm not sure any amount of rep points would be incentive enough for me to comb over davem's posts. :p

Or... if neither of these seems to get off the ground, maybe Tuor wants to try out his Orc game...?

[The 1,000 Reader]

I could mod (or at least help mod) Mega-Survivor. I'm not for the BD Survivor though.

(What the heck? When I looked at this post yesterday I clearly remember the word not was in it. what happened?)

[Formendacil]

Well, it seems that so far we have zero (0) people wanting to mod Mega-Survivor. I think you should just do it, Ang, since it is your brainchild, and all.

As to the Barrow-Downs Survivor, it's quite the idea. I'm not sure I'd really be up for it, though, for much the same reason as Form outlines above. Also, I'm not sure any amount of rep points would be incentive enough for me to comb over davem's posts. :p

Or... if neither of these seems to get off the ground, maybe Tuor wants to try out his Orc game...?

If we willing to reuse an old mod- and Ang DOESN'T want the helm, I'm willing to do a second round- or at least the vote counting, lynching (er... voting off posts), and day iniating... but I'll leave setting up the rules to the "committee". Probably the best in light of the past. :rolleyes:

We should, in my opinion, do the Mega-Survivor prior to the next (Ork?) incarnation. Because otherwise we'd have to incorporate the winners/losers into the Mega-Survivor, and it's at a nice size right now...

[Bêthberry]

I'd be interested in playing a Mega-Survivor game or an Orc game, but that Barrow Downs game just sounds to me like too much work. And I've never been a rep-hog anyway. :p I agree with Formy (Does anyone have any idea how many times I initially type out that nick as 'Foamy'? ;) ) that the fun point of these survivor games are their ease. Yeah, definitely put me 'down' for games lite. :rolleyes:

Oh, and, yeah, about modding it:

VOTE FOR ANG + +

[Bêthberry]

By the way, I can't resist posting this little snippet about Garm, that I found in one of davem's links to Norse mythology:


Tyr would fight Garm, the hound of Hel at Ragnarok.

The link: Tyr, old Norse gods (http://www.islandia.is/~oldnorse/gods/tyr.htm)

And we all thought he was just a widdle old Gram-ma. ;)

[Anguirel]

I feel not unlike Raymond of Toulouse when offered the crown of Jerusalem.

Ahem. If I'm to do it, you'll have to wait for a sec for it to get started. Till at least Jun 10th when my exams are over...

I'm still hoping a volunteer will jump into the breach. I think for instance that Kuru would make a brilliant mod, and, were she not far too good for it, I'd suggest Lalaith in the quiver of an eyelash.

[Diamond18]

Have you considered PM'ing them with your proposition?

[The 1,000 Reader]

I'll help you if you need it. Mega-Survivor sounds interesting, at least more interesting than BD Survivor.

[Formendacil]

I'll help you if you need it. Mega-Survivor sounds interesting, at least more interesting than BD Survivor.

Well, in case you, or any other potential mods are wondering what this entails... it's simple: you have to be on every day (or as close thereto as you may), at approximately the same time, to count all the votes, post who's being evicted, and preferably write up something short and funny about that eviction (this last is optional). The list of candidates, the rules, and all other formal arrangment will be provided by the College of Moderators Emeritus, unless they should choose to delegate that authority to their approved Mod.

It's work, don't let the apparent easiness of the job fool you there. It's not HARD work. Such hardness as I had when I did it was my own silly doing. But it is a regular commitment- day in and day out. And you need a level head on your shoulders and as great a lack of partiality as you can contrive.

[The 1,000 Reader]

So basically I just show up to work everyday and tally votes, refusing bad reasons?

[Diamond18]

The refusing bad reasons part is optional. I didn't use it in this game, and boy were some of the reasons baaaaad. :p ;)

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Bethberry

I'd be interested in playing a Mega-Survivor game or an Orc game, but that Barrow Downs game just sounds to me like too much work. And I've never been a rep-hog anyway. I agree with Formy (Does anyone have any idea how many times I initially type out that nick as 'Foamy'? ) that the fun point of these survivor games are their ease. Yeah, definitely put me 'down' for games lite.

Ditto. (It's not that I'm lazy, it's just that I don't want to do the work). :D

Although BD Survivor does sound challenging.

[Lalaith]

were she not far too good for it, I'd suggest Lalaith in the quiver of an eyelash.

Why, what a nice thing to say. Was it my superior morals you were referring to, dear boy, or my technical merit?
Actually I'd feel a bit out of my depth starting the game off on my own but I'll happily be a back-up mod if I'm needed. Waiting for your exams to finish is no problem for me, at least.

[Anguirel]

Superior morals. Wouldn't want them besmirched by the sordid business of moderation!

Though I must admit I'd give quite a lot to see you run a Werewolf game...but I suspect you'll take some persuading...