WWJ XI: When World's Collide

[Glirdan]

It was a calm, peaceful night in Beleriand. Perhaps to peaceful. Almost as if the calm before the storm. A calm that always gave off a false sense of security. Everyone in Beleriand felt safe, well, as safe as one could get in these troubled times. Everyone, that is, except two young Elves. They might have been young and foolhardy, but that didn't mean they were as easily persuadable by the calmness and beauty of this warm summers night. They, unlike the rest of Beleriand, were ready for a sudden attack from the North.

"We have to do something," the first Elf whispered quietly.

"I know, but what can we do?" the second asked.

The first sat there, for a time being, thinking of anything they could do. "I have it!" he cried suddenly.

"Would you be quiet!?" the second whispered hastily. "You might attract his spies. We don't want that now do we?" she asked. They both shuddered violently, remembering the stories that were told of what became of King Felagund in the pits of Tol-in-Gaurhoth. "So, what's this plan you have?"

The first shook himself out of his reverie. "You know that thing we found awhile back?"

"What thing? The tele-"

"Yes! That thing! Well, I was thinking, what if we used it to travel Arda and search for the bravest and most courageous folk we find then we-"

"I get it now! Sounds good! But who shall go and prep the-"

"I will. You gather the folk we need and bring them back here. Make sure you drug them so they don't remember what happened."

"Sounds good to me. Well, goodbye and good luck."

"You too. We'll need it..."

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Players: I will be sending out invitations to all the preivous mods and co-mods of the Junior games. I will give them until the 12th too respond unless I get answers back before then. After that, I shall open up this thread to the rest of the public for signing up. I would like at least a minimum of 17 players. However, I will accept more than that which will incorporate little surprises in the game which shall be revealed as the game progresses. For the invitees, please pop by the thread and leave your occupation and gender.

Roles: I would like, if there are seventeen players, the following roles incorporated:

3 Wolves
1 Seer
1 Hunter (?)
1 Ranger (?)
10 Ordinary Villagers

However, as said above, I may incoporate other roles depending. This, however will be kept a surprise until the game actually starts. However, that also really depends on the number of people playing.

Rules: ~In this game, players should stay in their chosen roles throughout the game and should write descriptively and in the third person. No out of character comments will be permitted. If there is something out of character you need to say, please do so in the admin thread for this game. Please avoid the use of smileys and be sure to remove your signature from your posts. I shall change mine until the game starts so there will be a link to this thread. After the game starts, I shall remove my signature.

Please note, however, that this game is not an RPG and should not be confused with the RPGs that take place in the Shire and Rohan sub-forums. Other than as stated above, the rules and guidelines applicable in those sub-forums do not apply to this game, but they remain fully applicable in the RPG forums.

~I will allow Double postings, but I want you all to try and refrain from it.

~ I have already pre-decided that I will NOT allow Double or Mass lynchings. I have personal vendetta against them and I know a lot of other people who would say no to them as well.

~ I'm considering retractable votes. If you have a preference, please let me know.

~ If you are going to refer to a past game, please do so by saying "According to my books of lore..." or something along those lines.

~ If a player does not vote or post for two Days straight, you WILL be lynched unless there is a valid reason for your absence. If you can't get on for some reason, please notify someone immediately to let me know.

~ Once you're dead, you're dead. Don't talk about the game in other threads, don't send PM's to live players and please refrain from repping until the end of the game.

One final note

Because the role-play element of this game is to apply throughout, you need somewhere to congregate. So, I have come up with the idea of have Wilwa (my dead co-mod) being the bartender. Now, I know this has never been done before, but listen before you flip. I will have her as an active member in the game. Yes, it's true that she will know who's who, but, she will not be posting unless it's to give someone a drink or something (got that Wilwa?) However, I was thinking that maybe we could make her just as oblivious as everyone else (except the Wolves of course) yet she doesn't get attacked. However, I think the first idea will work a lot better. So, give me your thoughts on that as well.

The invites shall be sent out breifly. Until you get your invite or until I open the thread to the public, please do not post on this thread. Thank you for your co-operation.

[Glirdan]

This thread is now open for signing up. Please remember to put you occupation and gender in your post. Thank you.

Players:

Valesse - f - Apple Fritterer - Mouth of the Anduin - Race: Enwife - First Age
Gil - m - Crazy Chef - Glittering Caves - Race: Dwarfs - Fourth Age
Valier - f - storyteller - Near the banks of the river Ringlo - Race: Men - Third Age?
Naria - f - Haradrim warrior - Harad - Race: Men - Third Age?
Diamond - f - ascetic - Long Cleeve - Race: Hobbits - Third Age
JennyHallu - f - charming, attractive and terribly successful thief - Minas Tirith - Race: Men - Third Age
Nogrod - m - Weed-dealer - Hardondor, south of Umbar - Race: Southron Man - Third Age
Boro - m - a searcher of Death/Plague - Dale - Race: Men - Third Age
Sleepy Ranger - m - Exiled Ranger - Arnor - Race: Dunedain - Third Age
Lommy - f - Stablehand - Race: Sindarin Elf - Doriath - First Age
Menel - m - Ranger of the North - Race Dunedain - Hills of Evendim - Fourth Age
Macalaure - m - Wainrider - Eastern Middle Earth - Easterling - Third Age
Volo - m - Bad Innkeeper - Rohan - Race: Men - Third Age
Kath - f - Food Taster - Hobbiton - Race: Hobbits - Third Age

[JennyHallu]

Is this now the admin thread, then?

I'd like to sign up. I'm a female, and I'm a charming, attractive, and terribly successful thief from...um...Minas Tirith? How canonical do you need? And if you're canonical, what age? You did mention Beleriand...

[Valier]

So are we to all be Men then?:D Or should I say of the race of Men.

[Glirdan]

No Valier, it's any gender you want. If you're a female and want to be male, be my guest!!! Anything, you choose.

Jenny, thank you. I did specify Beleriand. However, there is something that will make this game seem a little far-fetched (I still haven't been able to perfect the beginning of this, so please bear with me). So, because of that little something, this game will seem a little more out there and a little more, shall we say, sci-fi at the start than fantasy. So, if you want to be from Minas Tirith or any other 3rd Age realm and loacation, or even before 1st Age location, that is fine with me. I shall incorporate it into the story someway.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

::Uses the jedi mindtrick::

The game is not to start until the start of August. . .

(don't worry I will delete this soon, just wanted to show my disapointment)

[Valier]

I should have made myself more clear....are we all to be humans? as in not Elves or Dwarves or Hobbits?

[Glirdan]

Rune!! I know what you mean... I was looking forward to having you as my backup mod, I really was. But this game needs to get underway.

Valier, it doesn't matter what race or gender you would like to be. Just let me know if you're are going to be something other than a man because if you don't specify, I will take it that you are of the race of Men.

[Valier]

Ok I am female......I am a human......and I am from Gondor.....I am...Ummm a storyteller. Ya that works. I hope this is ok....:D

[Glirdan]

Any place specific in Gondor?

[Valier]

How about near the banks of the river Ringlo?

[Glirdan]

Sounds good.

[Glirdan]

Saucy, the rules have been re-moddified as suugested. Thank you for your assistance.

[The Saucepan Man]

Thanks Glirdan. :)

Just to be clear, and so no one misses it, the essential element is the following:

Please note, however, that this game is not an RPG and should not be confused with the RPGs that take place in the Shire and Rohan sub-forums. Other than as stated above, the rules and guidelines applicable in those sub-forums do not apply to this game, but they remain fully applicable in the RPG forums.

[Naria]

Now that things have....calmed down in ww; I will accept your invitation Glirdy. :D

I was wondering if I could be a female Haradrim....ya know the "people" that ride the elephants. I don't know where I would come from though. My maps don't show anything far enough South.

[Diamond18]

Coupla questions:

Is this still starting on the 17th?

And, do all our posts have to be in third person, i.e.

Diamond walked into the bar, ordered a beer, and said, "Blah blah blah Ginger blah blah blah."

As opposed to just saying:

Blah blah blah Ginger blah blah blah.

?

edit: Oh, and is it okay to be a hobbit?

[Glirdan]

Naria, I believe the location would be Harad that you are looking for. Thanks for joining! :D

Di, here are your questions answered in order:

1) I'm not sure if it will be the 17th exact. We don't exactly have enough people to start it then so it may be later. How much later, I'm not sure.

2) Yes, all posts are to be in third person. Read the rules in the first post as I have (with Saucy's aid of course ;) ) fixed them up.

3) Yes, it is quite fine if you're a Hobbit.

Now, a note to everyone: You can choose any race from any Age. I have a way to incorporate it into my story line.

[Valesse]

Hah! Alright... I'll be an old Entwife from the first age! Travelling up from the Mouth of the Anduin.. so obviously I'm female... As for a career I shall be the "Apple Fritter". A fiend only so fiendish as to shamelessly swipe apple products.

This game is going to be great! :D

[Nogrod]

1) I'm not sure if it will be the 17th exact. We don't exactly have enough people to start it then so it may be later. How much later, I'm not sure.
If you happen to not have enough players by July 21st or something, you could count me in, but only if it actually starts around then and is not a big game (I'll have to leave for a youth-camp at July 28th). So with all the warning-signs on, you might count me in to the "possibles", but that really is higly dependent on the exact dates the game is going to take place...

[Diamond18]

Alrighty then, I will be a female hobbit who is an ascetic. That's right. I don't believe in drinking, smoking, dancing, or eating to excess. I'm not even sure I approve of all that long curly hair. Oh, and I'll be from Long Cleeve.

Any word on the deadline time?

[Glirdan]

Deadline time hey? Well, not really. Times will really flucutuate because I won't have computer access all the time. But I was hoping for something like 12:00pm -5GMT.

And thank you for joining Diamond.

Might I also add that the deadline time may change...

Also, with those with question marks who have signed up, please confirm with me if that is right.

[Roa_Aoife]

*seriously considers reviving Green Dragon character from two years ago*
*decides against it*
*considers it again*
*decides to revive with some modifcations*

So, female, Numenorean (now from Minas Tirith) and... former Ranger turned.... Merchant.

Will that do?

Also, could someone kindly explain the Bear? I'm not sure how it works, and I could seem to find an adequate description on the main thread.

EDIT: Glirdan, if we can't go beyind double posting, does that mean we edit new thoughts in, or do we have to wait for someone else to post?

And, I would be for the first option with Wilwa- I don't really think it would be fair to have an unkillable known innocent running around helping out. So, yeah, stick with the NPC game on that one.

[Glirdan]

Will that do?

Absolutely fine by me.

Also, could someone kindly explain the Bear? I'm not sure how it works, and I could seem to find an adequate description on the main thread.

It would be my pleasure. The Bear works the same way as the Wolves (kills one person each Night and tries to blend in during the Day). The only difference is that he/she works alone. This is why I am hoping for at least 20 people to play. If not, I'm going to reduce the Wolves to 2.

EDIT: Glirdan, if we can't go beyind double posting, does that mean we edit new thoughts in, or do we have to wait for someone else to post?

I said I would allow Double posting, but I would like it if you tried to incorporate all your thoughts in that first post. If you remember something, you may double post or wait until someone else posts to make it seem realistic (this last one I strongly encourage you to follow through with).

I hope that helped clear things up! :)

[Boromir88]

I've decided to get back into another game here, now that I have plenty of time on my hands. This looks interesting Glirdan...so interesting that I am going to be a:

Male
Human from Dale
and occupation, a searcher of Death/Plague. (Bring out your dead anyone? :p )

[Diamond18]

::Uses the jedi mindtrick::

The game is not to start until the start of August. . .

You know, I'm starting to think there's something in that Jedi Mind Trick of Rune's. :rolleyes:

[Glirdan]

I'm starting to think we may have to go on a WW hiatus here... there's really nobody signing up for the games....I'm thinking that this game might not be starting for quite sometime...which really makes me sad because I was looking forward to it... So, we have a predicament...

[Diamond18]

This game has 13 players right now, which would be enough for a small, no frills game, but if want to play with the Werebear (which I'd like to) I suppose we will have to just wait.

[Glirdan]

How, may I ask, did you get 13? I only counted 7 deffinents(sp?). Oh well...besides the point.

I really do want to have the Bear make a comeback so we're going to need moer than 13. I'm guessing that any WW game may have to be put on hold until September when all the members who don't have school at this time comeback and may be interested. I don't know. For now, I shall sleep on it.

[Diamond18]

Er, well, I counted everyone listed in your post regardless of question mark, but then counted Jenny and Roa twice because their "bios" took up two lines.

[Glirdan]

Ahh!! Okay. Just wondering. :D

[JennyHallu]

That's fine with me because I'm having internet difficulties at the moment anyway.

[Gil-Galad]

has it started yet?

[Glirdan]

Nope. Like I said earlier on: hiatus till September. However, I'm still letting people sign up for it.

[Gil-Galad]

well i got an invitation so count me in yo...

[Glirdan]

Okay. So give me gender, race, occupation, location and which age you're coming from. ;)

[Gil-Galad]

Okay. So give me gender, race, occupation, location and which age you're coming from. ;)


Gender: Male
Race: Numenorean
Occupation: Friendly SilverSmith
Location: Umbar
Age: Second for sure....before LA


EDIT: maybe even Black Numenorean to spice things up

[Glirdan]

Okay, added all the info. Thanks for joining!! :D

[Gurthang]

Well, you can sign me up for now. I might have to pull out depending on when we actually get started. But I'll be the following:

Gender: Male
Race: Easterling
Occupation: Traveling Mercenary
Location: Sea of Rhun
Age: 3rd

[Nogrod]

I'm ready to be counted in too, without the question mark.

But if you Glirdy are missing a few players and Sleepy seems to be missing even more, couldn't you two just combine your effort?

As it seems, there is no great rush to WW-games right now, so why not to combine the games and get started in a week or two?

Maybe taking the basic-structure of your game (more people involved) and adding the minor chance of a villager surviving the attack (as was the new idea of Sleepy), or something?

So here we go:

Gender: male
Race: southron
Occupation: weed-dealer
Location: Harondor, lots south of Umbar
Age: the 3rd.

[Meneltarmacil]

Actually, what Nogrod proposes seems like a good idea to me. If we merge the two games and add Sleepy's players to Glirdan's, we should have enough to start a decent game as it is. If that doesn't work out and Sleepy's game doesn't make it off the ground, though, I'll be signing up here.

[Diamond18]

Sleepy has a definite theme for his, though, with the battle of the bands, which will conflict with Glirdan's theme and I don't see why the two games have to be combined thus forcing him to forego the kind of game he was planning -- they weren't going to be played at the same time anyway, according to both mods.

All bow before the convoluted run on sentence! Sheesh. What I meant was that I'd hold off to see what Sleepy and Glirdan say before combining their games for them. :p I'm signed up for both games with the understanding that whichever one starts first the other will happen after it's over.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Though I'm against the idea I won't object if Glirdan says he wants to.
Ahem, anyway my character-

Gender: male
Race: Arnorian
Occupation: TBA
Location: Arnor
Age: the 3rd.

[Thinlómien]

May I sign in this late?

Expecting the answer to be yes, I say:

Gender: Female
Race: Sindarin elf
Occupation: Stablehand
Location: Doriath
Age: The First

edit: And no retractables in my opinion, please.

[Meneltarmacil]

Okay, I will be signing up for this game.
Race: Human (Dunedain)
Gender: Male
Age: Early Fourth Age (not long after LOTR)
Occupation: Ranger of the North
Location: Hills of Evendim

[Roa_Aoife]

I had forgotten that I signed up for this. Sorry, Glirdan, but I'm not going to be able to make it this time.

[Nogrod]

Sorry. I Intended not to break anything but just to come up with an idea that would give us a game that could start. And it seems qiote possible now if I'm not wrong here.

If we go on with Glirdy's WWJ-game here the next WW-game should surely stay Sleepy's ground. And as it has enough players it will go on then. My idea of combining the parts of both games was just a suggestion. As I have now looked back for the plans I see that Di is right. These are not easily melted-together...

Anyhow, it would be nice to have a game, of anykind... :)

[Gil-Galad]

When is the game starting again?

[JennyHallu]

I'm still around and still in, Glirdan! And yet I have this terrible fear the game will start and some of us won't notice. How many are signed up now?

[Meneltarmacil]

I'm still around and still in, Glirdan! And yet I have this terrible fear the game will start and some of us won't notice. How many are signed up now?

We've got 14 signed up now; we still need 3 more people to make 17.

[Macalaure]

Though I'm surely going to mess up with the roleplaying, count me in.

Race: Human (Easterling)
Gender: Male
Age: Third Age
Occupation: Wainrider
Location: Eastern M-e

[Glirdan]

Yay!! I'll update the list shortly. :D

[Glirdan]

If there's anybody who is not sure (who has signed up previously) if they'll be able to play, let me know ASAP.

[Volo]

Ok, here goes... First WW... I can do it... Maybe... It was nice to see you all... :)

Race: Human
Gender: Male
Age: Third
Occupation: Bad Innkeeper
Location: Rohan

[Gurthang]

Glirdan, I think I'm gonna have to drop out. School just started up over here, and I think my classes are going to be fairly demanding. I don't even know if I'm going to be able to mod when my turn comes. I guess I'll cross that when it comes, but for now, I'm gonna be pressed just with school. Sorry. :(

[Sleepy Ranger]

After going over the players I have decided to be a Dunedain instead and as for occupation, Exiled Ranger.

[Diamond18]

Nogrod's a weed-dealer?

*dies laughing*

[Thinlómien]

I'm not sure I can play. I have been having problems with the net access lately, and unless it get fixed I can't play... :(

[Glirdan]

Well Lommy, I do hope you get that problem fixed. But does this mean the same for Nogrod?

[Thinlómien]

Well Lommy, I do hope you get that problem fixed. But does this mean the same for Nogrod?Nope. :) (We live mainly in different places.)

[Glirdan]

Okay. It's almost September. I'm going to be sending out a few more requests to people so we can get this game started. Once again, if anybody who is currently signed up does not wish to or does not know if they can play, please let me know IMMEADIATELY. I would very much like this game to get started shortly after I get back in school (which is next Tuesday).

[Gil-Galad]

there are too many evil men, change me into a Crazy Dwarf Chef hailing from the Glittering Caves

[Valier]

Glirdan could you post a post with all the players so far. I am not sure if I signed up or not. :)

[Glirdan]

Check the second post of the thread for a complete list of players. And as far as I remember Valier, I do believe you are still on the list. :)

[Meneltarmacil]

Perhaps this would be better played as a more "traditional" Werewolf game (three wolves, the seer, and the rest are Ordos), as we don't have a very high number of players and nobody has signed up in a while. I'm not trying to criticize you or challenge your authority on this, Glirdan, but I'd rather start this sooner than later, and this may be a more feasable approach.

I am willing to wait a while, though, as the return of the werebear sounds interesting... *contemplates who to eat first*

[Glirdan]

Well, it was Gurthang's wish to start up the Bear again and by the looks of things, I'm not going to be able to include it. I think I may take your advice on this Menel. However, if so, I think I may include either the Ranger or the Hunter, to even things out a bit (as there are still 13 or so people and it's quite possible). Or would you rather having both? Please let me know. Once I get everyone's vote in, I'll start.

Nogrod, if you could, let me know when Lommy will get her computer fixed? Or even you Lommy, just let me know.

[Thinlómien]

I've no idea yet. Do you need the information right now?

EDIT:
In case I play:

++whatever

(Or, actually, you can count that vote as well if I don't play... ;))

[Meneltarmacil]

The Ranger alone would probably suffice.

Once I get everyone's vote in, I'll start.

++Ranger only

[Kath]

If we're sticking with the old traditional style then I'm in.

Race: Hobbit
Gender: Female
Age: Third
Occupation: Food taster
Location: Hobbiton

And I'd say have the Ranger rather than the Hunter.

[Nogrod]

Hunter may cut both ways, depending of the way the role of the hunter is interpreted... If the hunter only takes baddies along, it helps the village, but many of us remember hunters taking fex. Seers with them. :D

[Glirdan]

So, Nogrod, I take it you want the Hunter? ;) By the way, this game will still be an Roleplaying type game. Again, refer to the first post of the thread for more details.

[Thinlómien]

I'm afraid the computer problems won't be solved when the game starts. (My mother seems not to be very interested in the whole problem... :mad: :rolleyes: )

Anyway, I know this game is almost short of players, so Glirdy, I say it's up to you will I play or not. In theory could still play using public computers. That would only mean that there would be a very unfloody Lommy and I might not contribute very much as I have limited time. I am willing to play, anyway, if my participating is generally seen more as an advantage for the game than a hindrance.

[Glirdan]

I personally would love to still have you in the game. So, what is everyone else's opinions. I will take all your arguments into consideration and then discuss them with Wilwa.

[Diamond18]

As far as roles, whatever you pick is fine, Glirdan.

As far as Lommy, if you think you'll still enjoy playing despite having to use public computers, and Glirdan is okay with it, then I don't see why anyone else should object.

[Thinlómien]

I know that some players (including myself) dislike a certain silent playing style, and I fear in the worst case I might play like that... :) I don't think anyone would be pleased with that (myself the least) and that's why I'm warning what a terrible doom you're calling upon yourselves if you let me play... ;)

[JennyHallu]

Oh, please play, Lommy darling...

If we don't like your playing style, we could always lynch you. For what other reason is anyone ever lynched anyway, really?

[Volo]

If you play in some bad style it'll be better for me. I'll know how NOT to do :D. But I think that the more the better. Don't stress about it. It's just a game! <---For that I'll be lynched first, right?

[Nogrod]

Oh, please play, Lommy darling...

If we don't like your playing style, we could always lynch you. For what other reason is anyone ever lynched anyway, really?You took the words from my mouth, Jenny! Exactly! :D

And really, there's a difference between playing with quiet one-liners per day as a wolfish tactics and computer problems... (No, I'm really not wishing to start this discussion again, just mentioning it :rolleyes: )

If we trust your input, we won't vote for you, if we don't, you'll be lynched...

And btw., just beforehand so that no one accuses me in the game for this, I will also be posting less in this game as this is a busy time. But surely I'll promise not to be in the least posters half anyway... how could I? :p

[Nogrod]

Don't stress about it. It's just a game! <---For that I'll be lynched first, right?Nope! Not first. Only when people have no other actual suspicions around... :D :D

And really: the first-timers always have a slight advantage as no one wants to be rude to them by voting them out after the first Day. But it may count the other way around too. :confused:

[JennyHallu]

I'm excited about the role-play angle...should be interesting. Wondering if I'm capable of dropping so thoroughly into character that I can avoid the pitfalls of my own oh-so-recognizable style.

[Volo]

And really: the first-timers always have a slight advantage as no one wants to be rude to them by voting them out after the first Day.

So, if anyone lynches me, I'll hate and hount you until the rest of your death! And I'll leave this Barrow full of rude ghosts.

This might actually temptate you all to lynch me out before the game starts...

[Gil-Galad]

So, if anyone lynches me, I'll hate and hount you until the rest of your death! And I'll leave this Barrow full of rude ghosts.

This might actually temptate you all to lynch me out before the game starts...

don't worry, there is a 78.6% chance i'm the first one lynched...

[Boromir88]

don't worry, there is a 78.6% chance i'm the first one lynched...

Don't worry buddy, I'll make sure that won't happen. :rolleyes:

[Gil-Galad]

Don't worry buddy, I'll make sure that won't happen. :rolleyes:

at least someone is looking out for me

[JennyHallu]

If you actually went and calculated that statistic I'll fight Boro for all I'm worth and get you gone. Agh! Numbers!


(says the chica who thinks calculus is fun)

[Gil-Galad]

If you actually went and calculated that statistic I'll fight Boro for all I'm worth and get you gone. Agh! Numbers!


(says the chica who thinks calculus is fun)

*sigh*... wheres the love jenny??

[Thinlómien]

Oh, please play, Lommy darling...

If we don't like your playing style, we could always lynch you. For what other reason is anyone ever lynched anyway, really?
Oh, thanks, that's so encouraging... Anyway, I guess I can't resist it and will play... :D

Beware! A new phenomenon, an unfloody-Lommy, is just about to come into being! :p

[Glirdan]

That's it Lommy! You're playing whether you like it or not! :p Everyone says so (*stares angrily around, daring someone to challenge his authority*)

Edit: I still need to know which of the roles (Ranger, Hunter, both or don't care) you guys would like to play with so please vote ASAP.

[JennyHallu]

++Pickles and Milk

Which is to say, I haven't the slightest preference..I'm simply mad for a new game of werewolf to start.

[Thinlómien]

++Pickles and Milk

Which is to say, I haven't the slightest preference..I'm simply mad for a new game of werewolf to start.
If that's the right way to say it:

--whatever

++Pickles and Milk

:D

EDIT: For some reason :rolleyes: ^ I started to wonder whether we have retrackies or not?

[Thinlómien]

:D

We're starting on Tuesday, right? Or?

[Boromir88]

++indifferent

[Glirdan]

Ummm, I haven't set a date...But, I would like to start it by then yes. That's as soon as I get everyone's (that's including Wilwa's) vote on which role they would like in.

[Macalaure]

I was too indifferent to even vote :rolleyes:

++whatever you like, Glirdan

[Thinlómien]

Ummm, I haven't set a date...But, I would like to start it by then yes. That's as soon as I get everyone's (that's including Wilwa's) vote on which role they would like in.I won't probably be able to get online in week end, just to inform you all in case we're starting then already.

[Valier]

I vote for the ++ Ranger

And Glirdan do you have any idea what time Day and night will be? I need to know, so I can be sure I can play. :D

[Nogrod]

And Glirdan do you have any idea what time Day and night will be? I need to know, so I can be sure I can play. :DThat would be a nice piece of information, indeed... :smokin:

My vote on the pickles and milk -issue depends on the overall scenery and the number of players involved.

I counted 14 players from the beginning of the thread. It's so-and-so. The classic I believe is 16 of which there are 3 wolves and 3 gifteds. That seems to be in balance somewhat (at least when the hunter is interpreted in a way that can harm the villagers too).

Maybe just having the ranger (and no hunter) would bring the balance here as we don't have as many players as the classic version would have?

So:

++ Ranger

EDIT: PS. If we are having some extra-roles (baddies of kind) as was discussed at some stage, then the villagers would need all the aid they can have - and we should have a "100% villager-friendly" hunter too?

[Glirdan]

Nope. There will be no extra roles added...unless I feel like being sneaky that is! ;) :p

As for time, right now, I'm looking at 6pm Eastern (-5CMT) because that will (hopefully) be the best times for myself and Wilwa. I also may change the format of the first post because they way I was thinking of it won't work. So watch for possible reformatting, okay??

[Meneltarmacil]

6 PM works for me.

[Nogrod]

As for time, right now, I'm looking at 6pm Eastern (-5CMT) because that will (hopefully) be the best times for myself and Wilwa. That would make it 10AM here in Finland (for Lommy, Volo & myself). Not the best of times, surely. At least on days when we have to get to school early (no late night playing or early morning involvement = we would have to exit after the first half of the Days...). But surely there are days when we're not required to go to school for 8 and weekends too. And many people have played like that, so maybe we can too. :)

[Naria]

Hey, hey!! What kind of sneakiness *gives stern look towards mod* :p

Glirdy, your start date and time works wonderfully for me. As for voting...hmmm I will have to go with ++Ranger. Such a pity that two more people aren't aboard :( .

Ahh well hopefully we can get two more by start time.

[Gil-Galad]

++i honestly don't care, choose whatever

[Kath]

And what time is that here in merry old England?

[Meneltarmacil]

6:00 AM Eastern time would be 10:00 PM GMT, Kath.

EDIT: I'm posting this here to avoid double-posting:
Glirdan, I was just wondering what the guidelines on PMing during the game were. Gil-Galad and I are going to be co-modding Barrow-Downs Survivor after the current Survivor is finished, and we'd like to be able to PM about issues related to that thread. We will not be discussing anything related to Werewolf.

FURTHER EDIT: This is my 1400th post!

[Glirdan]

PMing will be like it always is now that we do not have a Hunter. So, only the Wolves may PM each other at Night. But you ALL may PM me about questions, comments, concerns, anything. Okay? :)

[Diamond18]

Nope. There will be no extra roles added...unless I feel like being sneaky that is! ;) :p

Now whatever would give you the notion to do that? http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/25.gif

My vote...

++ Ranger

-- Hunter

I don't care about the deadline as I'm used to voting early if I have to.

[Glirdan]

Okay, well, by the looks of things, the Ranger is in, Hunter out.

[Kath]

Thanks Menel, I think I can manage with that.

[Nogrod]

Something here just doesn't still sit right?

I was wrong with my timings the last time, but this clearly isn't quite straight yet...

U.S Naval Observatory says:
The times of various events, particularly astronomical and weather phenomena, are often given in "Universal Time" (abbreviated UT) which is sometimes referred to, now colloquially, as "Greenwich Mean Time" (abbreviated GMT). The two terms are often used loosely to refer to time kept on the Greenwich meridian (longitude zero), five hours ahead of Eastern Standard Time.
But then there is the issue of Daylight savings...

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/info/timezone-summer.htm (http://) Check here current timings.

So Eastern Daylight Savings time is indeed -4GMT (UT) right now. The Great Britain is +1 GMT and we here in Finland are +3 GMT.

That would mean that the deadline is:

6PM Eastern
11PM Great Britain
01AM Finland

Correct me if I'm wrong this time too... :)

PS. 01AM here is quite right with me. 12AM would be better, but in a close game I could sacrifice one hour of sleep for a good participation in the game... :cool:

[Meneltarmacil]

No, GMT is the correct time for Great Britain, not GMT+1, as it centered on Greenwich, an area just outside London. Thus, Finland would then be GMT+2, not +3, so the Day/Night would begin at 12 AM your time, Nogrod.,.

[Nogrod]

No, GMT is the correct time for Great Britain, not GMT+1, as it centered on Greenwich, an area just outside London. Thus, Finland would then be GMT+2, not +3, so the Day/Night would begin at 12 AM your time, Nogrod.,.I'm sorry to disagree with you here.

But I happen to know, that Finland is in +3GMT (even my BD-page - low there at the bottom - says that). And after a similar discussion with the last game (when the Brits were saying they were the GMT, they had to acknowledge that they were not - the Daylight Savings makes the GB +1 GMT) as the game begun, we saw that it was the case.

Just try it this way.

It's 03.07AM now here in Finland as I send this.

Check when this has been written from your thread. It is 01.07AM in the G-B, isn't it? And Glirdy should have received this at 08.07PM his time?

[Glirdan]

And you would be exactly right Nogrod. Sorry Menel, but he's right. :D

[Nogrod]

So, if we are settled with the time of the deadline each day, then we only need to know the starting date... :)

How does it look like, Glirdy?

[Glirdan]

By the looks of things, Tuesday, maybe Wednsday. So, everyone be prepared. I will, of course, let everyone know (on the WWJ thread) when I have the post up. When I do, please ask any questions on that thread or through PM. I will remind everyone of the rules and make a deffinte choice of the roles by tomorrow. But like I said, if I'm feeling sneaky, don't be surprised if another role (only one) pops up. :p

[Nogrod]

I re-read the rules of the game today.

How strict will be the policy with staying in character?

I mean, it's pretty hard to make fex. post-analysis for someone staying in an RPG-mode. It's possible, but requires time. And surely there is the question how to relate to someone's earlier posts "in character"...

Should we have some shared understanding of the surroundings and the basic infrastructure (more than there being an inn-keeper for us all to address in the beginning) if we are going to be in an RPG-style writing here?

Don't get these questions wrong, Glirdy. I see it as a nice and interesting challenge to play werewolf in this manner, but we should have quite clear understanding of the rules and especially the practises of how to do things, shared by all of us, if we wish the game to go smoothly...

And just to you as a mod to ponder: Have you considered the fact that in character -playing will with high probability increase the number of occupation / race-related lynches at least in the beginning and so the rules should be set slightly on the side of the villagers? (I was just thinking about these surprises of yours in a situation where the village is from the beginning in a bit worse situation than in a "normal game" of 16-17 with 3 wolves and full arsenal of gifteds)

[Glirdan]

Don't worry, I will be posting all the rules and the structure of the town one I get the game up. Speaking of which, as of this moment, this thread is close to questions. I will be sending out the roles shortly.

The roles are:

~ 3 Wolves
~ 1 Seer
~ 1 Ranger
~ 9 Ordo's

So please wait patiently. Also, one last note. As Wilwa (who is still my backup mod thus far) is in school for a good 6 hours and has to sleep. She will not get a chance to respond to you right away. So please, keep all drink and food demands to a minimum. Therefor, I am allowing you all to get your own drinks and just leave the money. However, do not do it frequently! Wilwa is off on the weekends (except when she's at work :rolleyes: ) so do the demands then.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns, please use the WWJ thread or PM me.

As of this moment, this thread is closed until further notice.

[Glirdan]

Everyone in the village woke up and arose off the cold hard ground, not know what happened or where they were. Then they looked at each other and started asking questions all at once.

"Where are we?" Diamond, the Hobbit ascetic from Long Cleave asked.

"What are you?" shrilled Valesse, the Entwife Apple Fritter from the Mouth of Anduin.

"We are Hobbits," answered Kath, the Hobbit Food Taster from Hobbiton.

"Okay, but again, where are we?" demanded Naria, the Haradrim Warrior from Harad.

"I don't know, but I smell death!" Boromir, the searcher of Death/Plague from Dale stated delightedly.

"Okay dude, you need to stay away from me!" Nogrod, the Weed-Dealer from Harondor yelled in panic.

"And you need to calm down," stated Sleepy Ranger, the exiled Ranger from Arnor.

Just then, two figures stepped into the middle of the crowd. Everyone fell instantly to scilence. There was an aura about them that made the still air tingle with excitement.

Then, Thinlomien, the stablehand from Doriath stepped forward. "My bretheren! What are we doing here?"

The female Elf answered, her dark hair glistening in the sunlight. "All in good time, my dear friend. You have all had a wearisome journey full of wonderful dreams, or horrible nightmares. I am Wilwarin, but you may call me Wilwa for short. And this is my friend Glirdan, or Glirdy for short. Now, please, keep your questions for the end while Glirdan explains what you are doing here, and most importantly, what here is."

"Thank you my friend, thank you indeed. Now, where to begin," he said, thinking deeply.

It was then that Gil-Galad, the Crazy Chef from the Glittering Caves steeped forth and cried, "How about from the beginning!"

Glirdan looked at the Dwarf, who quailed in fright at the look that was give to him. "Hmmm, I suppose you thought that funny. Well, I do see the humour in it, but there is nothing humourous for the position you are all in. For there are three Werewolves amongst you," he said sorrowfully. At the word Werewolves, a tremor ran through the circle.

JennyHallu, the charming, attractive and terribly successful theif from Minas Tirith steppe forward. "Did I hear you correctly? Did you say Werewolves?"

"Yes milady, I did." Another tremor ran through the circle.

"Then what must we do to be rid of them?" asked Valier, a storyteller from the banks (or somewhere nearby) of the River Ringlo.

"You must force them out of hiding and lynch them. But do not worry, there are two amongst you who can aid you. You have a Seer and Ranger amongst you."

"And who would they bey?" demanded Meneltarmacil, the Ranger from the North from the Hills of Evendim. "For I am a Ranger and so is Sleepy over there by the looks of things."

"Yes, but this Ranger is unique. You will know who it is later on possibly."

Then he looked around the circle and smiled. "Do not worry. I sense the courage in you and I can feel your exhilaration at this wonderful opportunity. You're all warriors deep down. You just need to find a way to release it."

"Now, this is how the village works. To my right is the Inn Volo and opposite is that of my dear friend Wilwa." at that, Volo, the bad Innkeeper from Rohan, eminated anger but remained quiet. "There are houses around the square, each with your name upon it where you will find your belongings. Where we are is the Town Square. The restaurant is attached to Gil's house in the front (where you sleep is in the back) and a stable full of horses behind Thinlomien's. So, as you see, everything is set for you to continue the way you would live normally. Now get to your houses, for here in the Realm of Immagination, time does not exist!" And with that final cry, the sky darkened and stars began to appear. When they looked back, Wilwa and Glirdan had disappeared.

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~* ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

Player's list:

Valesse - f - Apple Fritterer - Mouth of the Anduin - Race: Enwife - First Age
Gil - m - Crazy Chef - Glittering Caves - Race: Dwarfs - Fourth Age
Valier - f - storyteller - Near the banks of the river Ringlo - Race: Men - Third Age?
Naria - f - Haradrim warrior - Harad - Race: Men - Third Age?
Diamond - f - ascetic - Long Cleeve - Race: Hobbits - Third Age
JennyHallu - f - charming, attractive and terribly successful thief - Minas Tirith - Race: Men - Third Age
Nogrod - m - Weed-dealer - Hardondor, south of Umbar - Race: Southron Man - Third Age
Boro - m - a searcher of Death/Plague - Dale - Race: Men - Third Age
Sleepy Ranger - m - Exiled Ranger - Arnor - Race: Dunedain - Third Age
Lommy - f - Stablehand - Race: Sindarin Elf - Doriath - First Age
Menel - m - Ranger of the North - Race Dunedain - Hills of Evendim - Fourth Age
Macalaure - m - Wainrider - Eastern Middle Earth - Easterling - Third Age
Volo - m - Bad Innkeeper - Rohan - Race: Men - Third Age
Kath - f - Food Taster - Hobbiton - Race: Hobbits - Third Age


Okay, Rules reminder.

~ Posts must be RP formatted
~ No Double or Mass Lynchings
~ No Retractable Votes
~ You will be killed off if you do not vote or post for two consecutive Days
~ Wilwa cannot be killed!!

Now, Wolves may start PMing and Seer can PM me his/her choice for dream. Ranger does nothing for tonight. Day 1 will commence tomorrow at 6 pm (or around there) Eastern Time.

[Glirdan]

Glirdan paced back and forth through his house restlessly, wondering when they would arrive. It was nearly dawn. "They should have come by now," he thought imaptiently.

Just then, a creak outside his door told him that they were finally here. "Never mind breaking down the door, come in already!" he shouted.

The door opened with a bang and in stepped three gigantic monsters. "Well, it took you long enough!!" Glirdan cried impatiently. The Wolves looked at him, completely bewildered. "This type of thing has happened before. Your first kill is predictable," he explained. "Now would you get on with it? And make it quick."

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

The rest of the village awoke, refresh but just as confused. They all congregated in the village square.

"Where's that Glirdan guy!" Nogrod shouted. "I want to know more about why we're here!" There was an uproar of agreement.

Jus then, Wilwa came flying into the square, tears running quickly down her cheeks. "He-he's dead!!" she creid and she fell in a faint.

Lommy ran over to check on her before rushing off to the house from whence she came. There, they met a ghastly site. The door had been banged open and in the doorway the mauled body of Glirdan hung. There were deep gashes across his chest and face. The villagers ran away in fright and disgust. Everyone, that is except Boromir.

"I knew I sensed death," he said grimly before turning away.

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

Dead

Glirdan (mod) - Mauled to death on Day 1

Alive

Valesse
Gil
Valier
Naria
Diamond
JennyHallu
Nogrod
Boro
Sleepy Ranger
Lommy
Menel
Macalaure
Volo
Kath

Werewolves may continue to PM until 6pm Eastern Time. Nobody is allowed to post until that time. Either myself or Wilwa will come tell you to begin posting. If neither of us do by then, please feel free to start posting. Thank you.

[wilwarin538]

Day 1 has now begun, you may now start posting.

[Meneltarmacil]

Meneltarmacil wandered into the bar. He had heard the legends of the Dunedain that spoke of werewolves and their passion for destroying villages, but found it hard to believe that it could actually be happening in this day and age.

Yet he had been transported out of his time and put in whatever this place was for strange reasons, reasons which had now become clear. He was here to help deal with werewolves, as were the others who had arrived in this village.

"Glirdan... Alas, I barely knew him, and I believe the wolves killed him to keep him from telling us about what was at stake," the man said. "As for finding the wolves, I can offer little advice. This first Day, we do not have anything to go on, sadly, and the best choice we can really make is a semi-educated guess based on what everyone says. If there still isn't any choice, I suppose there's always this."

He took a twenty-sided die from the folds of his cloak and rolled it. It landed on the number 6.

"That would be JennyHallu, I believe, looking at the list of those in the village," Menel remarked. "A known criminal already. Moving up from thieving to murder, are we?"

[Gil-Galad]

Well that was a big shame... well lets all go and eat some pancakes!!!

[Boromir88]

Boromir followed in closely behind Meneltarmacil catching what he had said...

"I wonder sir, exactly how come you by this information?" he questioned Menel. "I haven't ever seen you in this village before last night, yet it seems like you have a good grasp of who we all are. Seems rather strange that you should know so much information on somebody. Who are you? And is your handy profile of the villagers for some evil purposes, perhaps?"

[Naria]

"Mmmmpancakes! Although that sounds awfully good right about now sir Gil, methinks we should try and find who or what did such carnage to this here Glirdy character." Naria then turned her attention to the other two that were talking and figured that she would just sit back for a moment to wait and see what transpired between them.

[Meneltarmacil]

"Boromir88," Meneltarmacil responded, "I was simply referring to the list that the late Glirdan provided all of us with. As you mentioned, we don't know much about the others in this village, and my choice was simply a random one. It will take time before enough is known about the inhabitants of the village to make informed decisions. As for you, I find you somewhat suspicious as well, you self proclamed 'searcher of death and plague.' You've certainly found some death here; perhaps you've been causing it yourself."

Menel turned to look at Gil-Galad.

"You're certainly somewhat odd, exhorting us all to go feast on pancakes when there's an investigation to be done. A wolf? Possbily, but possibly not. Being a crazy chef, though, who knows what you've been cooking lately. Seeing that Glirdan was killed just before you started serving that special sausage recipe of yours today, I'm liable to suspect something."

[Gil-Galad]

"well lass, like my momma always said, chew your water before you swallow...or something...thats not it... oh yeah! its Don't solve a bloody murder case of the supernatural on an empty stomache!"

[Naria]

"Oh! ok then...I will have two bloody pancakes then. Oh...erm, umm...you meant the murder case as bloody. Oy vey, well in that case I will still have two pancakes.

"Speaking of emtpy stomachs, I wonder where the rest of the group is....this kind of behaviour makes me real worried...hmmm," Naria said while she scratched her head as she paced the room.

[Valier]

"Whoa is me!! This is just terrible!!" Valier paced back and forth, back and forth. "This reminds me of the time when we use to wear onions on our belts.....Back in 13diggidy-do..... How awful, poor Glirdan!" Valier plopped herself down into a large overstuffed chair and looked towards the bar. "I believe this calls for a drink! We must put our heads together, to find the culprits and a little liquor will take the edge off." Valier raised herself from her sitting position and meandered to the bar, plunked down some coins and waited for more conversation to start so she could assess everyone and try to reveal their true natures.

[Thinlómien]

Thinlómien sat in the bar, though she'd have preferred being with the horses. They were less complicated and did not murder people. And she hadn't heard of horses turning to wolves by night yet... Though, who knows what Morgoth Bauglir designs...

She took a long sip from her pint and sighed. "What is this, the poor Glirdan mutilated and killed by the werewolves that seemingly are three amongst us, poor innkeeper Wilwa torn with grief of her friend's death and on the top of it, a stable without a stablemaster and with only one stablehand." She shook her head. "This isn't promising."

The young elf truned her gaze from the pint to her fellow villagers in the room. Her blue gaze fixed on Naria the haradrim warrior and Gil the dwarf. "Pancakes, you say? May I ask how do you think we will get rid of the werewolves by eating pancakes?" She tried to look stern, but aknowledging she wasn't any more help for the village in solving the problem than the two, she failed.

She cast a quick glance on the ranger, Meneltarmacil. She did not yet know was he a friend or foe, nor was he trying to make the discussion more sensible with accusing Gil and Naria for their pancake obsession that had nothing to do with werewolves or being as nonensical with his random suspects.

She took another sip. "Let's think. Drink. And discuss."

[Macalaure]

"Alas for poor Glirdan!" Macalaure said in silent mourning as he came into the bar "Taken too early he was, and by a werewolf, three maybe! Who could have known that werewolves are capable of such gruesome deed? They're a quite companionable folk where I come from. But these here deserve no mercy! They shall be hunted down and taste the heads of our spears! Where now the wain and the rider? Indeed, where? What evil act of elvish enchantment brought me here without my wain? How am I supposed to hunt these creatures down on the open plain, now? Alas for poor Glirdan, we shall never know. But what do I hear you say, these wolves are among us? Maybe sharing our well-deserved pancakes right now as we speak?"
Realising this, Macalaure spoke no more. He took a few pancakes into his bare hands and withdrew into a dark corner of the bar, watchfully observing those who claim to be here on the same purpose as he, piercing their minds with his dark eyes.

[wilwarin538]

Wilwa handed a pint to Valier and gave her her money back.

"I used to give Glirdan free stuff all the time, so I wil do that today also, in his memory." she said with a small smile.

She looked around sadly as the villagers conversed, hoping that everything would work out for them in the end.

[Thinlómien]

What evil act of elvish enchantment brought me here without my wain?

Thinlómien cast a suspicious look on Macalaure the Wainrider. "So you're blaming my noble people for all this? Racists, are we?" There was only a slight hint of smile in her eyes, but that was enough to tell that she was not really serious.

The elf stablehand stood up, lifted her hand gesturing people to be quiet and started a speech:

"Discuss, I said and discuss we - or I at least - will indeed. I encourage every soul in the village to speak up their thoughts. Now, that we are gathered here, torn from our homes and ages to this strange place, it is easy for everyone - including the lycantrophes - to hide their true character behind the cover we see. We all have prejudices and expectations about each other because of what we look like and where do we come from. As I said, this situation makes it really easy to hide the true personality and thoughts behind this image.

No innocent person suffers in this expectional case of revealing his or her personal thoughts, unlike the werewolves. Thus, I encourage every single innocent person - and why not the guilty ones too - to concentrate on ideas, tactics and cases, not on who they are and where do they come from and do they eat pancakes or not." She made a little pause. "I know it might be difficult on this first day - I have heard tales from travellers that pass through Doriath and leave their horses in the stables - but I beg you, my fellow victims to try. That is the only successful way to get rid of the lycantrophes, I say."

Without waiting for an applause for her speech she sat down and took a long sip from her pint. She tried to bring back to her mind all that had been said on the day, and pondered who would she blame of lycantrophy. She knew she wanted to have her word to affect things and she knew the horses would need her soon.

[Thinlómien]

"Well, well", Thinlómien said. "It seems I must be the one to actually start demanding someone's death." She looked around carefully.

"I personally dislike mere chatting on a serious occasion. This brings two spamcake-eaters to my mind. " She glanced at Gil and Naria.

"Though, another of them speaks only of pancakes, but the more slithery one - if I may use that word - tries to blame those who haven't yet spoken, though there's long 'til sunset. That makes me wary. We all have other duties, even now when our lives are at stake. That is why I say that

++Naria

must die."

The elf maiden rose up and wrapped her cloak around her. She looked at the haradrim woman. She did not smile because she knew that even the warmest smile couldn't undo the severe accusation she had just spoken aloud. "Bad reasoning, I know, but that's the best I'm capable of at this phase of the day. Sadly, I didn't hear most of the people to say even one word. That is a real shame."

"Good day to you, my fellow villagers. Hopefully we nail one of those beasts today. Unfortunately, rest of it must happen without me. I'm off to tend the horses, they need me. "

[JennyHallu]

Jenny Hallu sauntered into the room, swaying hips in black leggings speaking to a confidence she did not feel. More out of habit than anything else, she swiftly palmed the coins Valier had left forgotten on the bar, then took a plate of pancakes and sat down at a table, earnestly listening to the muted tones of this motley group discussing the werewolves.

"Don't worry, all," she said, with a false but well-acted bravura, "I'm sure we'll find these bad'uns." Between bites of pancakes she introduced herself. "I'm a--a-- *cough* --a merchant." She met Meneltarmacil's gaze with confusion, as she had no recollection that Glirdan's careful narration and orchestration of recent events had involved any sort of roster being given to the characters populating this strange and accurséd village.

"Meanwhile, while I caught only the tail end of it, that horsey elf's speech rings true in several important particulars. First, while they are delicious, compliments and comments on the pancakes alone shall not find our foes. And second, I have known several people near to the aforementioned Naria's description, and while they are not black-hearted (or canine-hearted, for that matter) any more often than any other woman, they seem unequivocally suspicious. With no other evidence to go on than what has been said here, and the sheer brutality of the crime, I must admit I share that suspicion, but I thankfully I have no pressing duties to keep me from remaining here, and refining or even redirecting my thoughts."

She looked around, accepting a drink from the bar, as she completed her statement. "Oh, and one last thing...that stenographer is an incredible idea, Wilwa, was that yours or Glirdan's? I think I'll go review what's been said."

[Boromir88]

"Menel, I often find it a cheap trick to use one's occupation against them. Everyone needs a job to keep them busy, may I ask what is your job?Those effected by the curse are often the most noble and seem trustworthy, but by night are vicious killers. We're not here to execute thieves or death searchers, but werewolves pal." said Boromir.

Then Boromir quickly turns his attention to Mac. "Woah, buddy, that seems a bit overboard to me, don't you think? Calm, cool, collected reasoning will get us through these montrosities. But just running around blindly like a madman calling for the death of wolves...you're going to turn this town into the Salem Werewolf Trials, and we all know how that turned out. If you make my job too hard I'm going to have to raise my rates, and no one likes that."

After that, Boromir began thinking of pancakes. I've never been too fond of a dwarf chef...seems kind of awkward. But, I guess this is no usual dwarf, he seems kind of crazy to me..."Hey Gil," he shouted "toss me one of 'em pancakes."

[Diamond18]

A short figure clad in a plain brown homespun dress and hooded cloak walked slowly into the room. From under the hood two eyes swept the room, a glint of suspicion glinting suspiciously.

The eyes lighted upon Gil, (http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/pancakebunny-14678.jpg) and the nose under the eyes (and consequently, under the hood) sniffed disdainfully.

“Gluttonous,” said a high-pitched, female voice.

A hand reached up and swept back the hood, and finally the figure became somewhat less disembodied.

A young, stern, and unnaturally thin Hobbit face stared out at the other inhabitants of the bar. She had her brunette curls pulled tightly back in a severe little bun on the top of her head.

“Boozer,” she said, fixing her disdainful gaze on Lommy.

Then she met Jenny's bold glance and surmised, "Greedy."

Thus making a rather monosyllabic entrance, Diamond Took from Long Cleeve sat herself in a corner and continued to gaze balefully around the room, thinking this group looked like a very wanton bunch, indeed.

“I suspect you all,” she declared, shocking her audience with a complete sentence. She then requested a cup of water and a piece of dry toast from Wilwa, before munching in contemplative silence.

[Macalaure]

"You mean Salem, East Khand, Boromir?" asked Macalaure, breaking his silence, "Well, there were no werewolves left in the end, were there? But surely you are right. We should overcome our desperate situation with as few side casualties as possible. I have to admit that, despite being an Elf, Lommy is speaking some sense. Silence is of no avail, as is chattiness. But the day is yet young."

[Meneltarmacil]

"Diamond, if you would please be so kind as to provide a reason for these accusation of yours," Menel remarked, "I would be grateful. In this sort of a situation, throwing out random accusations at first is generally the norm, but perhaps I should start concentrating on who could really be a werewolf."

"Thinlómien, for one, is behaving somewhat strangely. After Naria mentioned that there hadn't been much discussion yet, which was probably only intended to get people talking, Thinlómien jumped on her statement as evidence that Naria could be a wolf. Her vote so early in the day looks pretty suspicious to me, though she may not have the time to come back later in the day. She is my prime suspect at this point, though if she turns out to be innocent, I'll be looking more closely at Naria."

[Gil-Galad]

Hrmm... Drinks are no mixture for pancakes!! and your insistance to get together bothers me for soem reason...

++Valier


OOC:sorry, i most vote early because i might not get anotehr chance today.

[JennyHallu]

Jenny responded cheekily to Diamond's ascetic appearance by slathering her pancakes in strawberries and whipped cream before eating them with obvious enjoyment. "'Greedy'? 'Boozer'? 'Gluttonous'?," she said, raising an eyebrow. "Interesting assessments, I'm sure, but wouldn't 'fangéd', 'furry', and 'blood-thirsty' be a bit more to the point?"

[Nogrod]

Man, this is a nasty trip! First just Zap'n'outta here, then all this gore. I need to get stoned... Nogrod went to his house after the news about Glirdy were broken and smoked a fair pipeful of his strongest, falling into the abyss of oblivion. It was only in the afternoon that he slowly came back to somewhere that faintly reminded the here and now. He walked with a springy step to the bar and felt relieved to see others around. The lonely trip had been a scary one this time.

"I and I saw the boogeyman! Voodoo child, I say. Anyone's gotta hang of this? Whassup?" Nogrod faced only questioning faces of different kinds of vegetables and staggered across the room, wondering where all the people had gone. Whew! This is a trip man!

He almost stumbled to the desk and addressed Wilwa: "Brief me in sister Pea... and gimme a pint. I need to sober up and fast."

After Wilwa had refused the pay and filled him in about the discussion so far Nogrod fell into his thoughts and visions. Hiding behind pancakes? I once hid the serial flowermonster behind a raisin... Gah, get to your right mind man! C'mon!

Then he suddenly reached a moment of soberness, the ale making its work. Half-aloud he mumbled: "Jah! Those talkin a lot always slip at some point... those can be handled. But beware of those not saying anything or just going for the nonsense." He almost fell back to his semi-conscious state as his eyes vaguely formed a picture of the ranger Meneltarmacil to his retina. Which brings me about the first case...

"Menel, dude! You 'ear me? I and I know the circles down south, you know, tricks 'n' treats... Rough bussiness, rough bussiness. Three things learned to not like. Experience, me says." He emptied the pint with one single draught and immediately called Wilwa for another before continuing. "Trying to avoid leaving any tracks, contradiction and flip-flopping. Bad signs man." He tried to stare the Ranger into the eye but did not manage to raise his head as it felt too heavy right now.

After receiving his new pint he took a moderate sip and managed to clear his head again. "Whattaymean... Declaring your suspicion random you clear your trail, if you say you can have a semi-educated guess and still use the dice you contradict yourself and if you then declare the earlier things just a whim or trad and proclaim to use reason instead, you flip-flop... You see?"

Nogrod had clearly forgotten most of the things said at late and started to recover them from the farthest recesses of his baffled brain. With the help of his pint.

[Macalaure]

Macalaure lifts himself off his chair in his dark corner and walks to the center of the room. Calmly but sternly looking into everybody's eyes, one by the other. As the last, the Ranger of the North meets his glance.

"I have to say that Meneltarmacil rubs me the wrong way of late. He threw out a 'random' accusation in the beginning, and later even called this the norm! I should be pleased to see him defend my ally from Harad, and accusing the Elf. However, I trust no Dunedain more than any Elf. Lommy could be a wolf, for sure, but Menel's arguments I do not find to be convincing. She voted Naria because there was no one better. Sure Naria wanted to get people into talking, but without doing so herself.
You say "if she turns out to be innocent"? Are you already plotting what to do after her death, even before she collected even one vote? Then you will go after Naria, you say, and expect us to accept this as logic, because it then will used to be the suspicion of a proven innocent. To me, this looks like a wolf laying the tracks to be able to excuse his involvement in the future lynching of no less than two innocents. I do not say Lommy and Naria are innocent, but Menel's words strike me as very suspicious."

[Boromir88]

"Cheers to the man from Harad." Boromir shouts. "Worthy deductions I say to you. The whole I'm suspicious of Thinlo, but if she's innocent I think Naria looks suspicious, just seems all too awkward. It's like our fellow Ranger is trying to absolve himself of all blame if two innocents are lynched. And I agree this doesn't mean that Thinlo or Naria are indeed innocent, but right now Menel is looking to me to be the most wolvish...I find this behaviour of pointing vague suspiciouns towards villagers and playing the 'If their innocent, I'm not to blame' card, to be the most suspicious right now."

"Oh and get another pint for my pal Nogrod here. Would you kind Wilwa? He seems to work at his best when he's got a pint in his hand...and we will surely need everyone at their best tonight, eh?"

[Volo]

"Hick... Now this is crazy! I just wake up in this... Hick... village and get this wonderful inn for my use from some chap who... Hick... gets killed by werewolves next night! Now this... Hick..., I mean this, is improvement!" Volo already drank too much beer and now it began to feel. "Well what can a man do if he has an innfull of free beer? Hick... Though this inn could include more than one person. That, that, that... Hick... um yeah, Wilwa! She is the root of all that's bad! All the cus... Hick... customers are in her inn, no mine. All this werewolf stuff is fine otherwise... Hick..., so long as I'm not one of their victims... At least it should bring customers. Hick..." Volo fell on the floor...

When he woke up, it was late, but still it seemed thet nobody had visited his inn. His mind was rather clear, something he had always bragged on. If no customers want to come here themselves, I have to collect them here. After a mug of beer Volo walked out of his inn not even bothering to lock it and walked into Wilwa's inn.

"Hey, you! All! Hey you!" Volo shouted in a hoarse voice. Everybody stared at him. "Yea, that's fine." He whispered to himself. After a slight pause, he shouted "Soo, people, let's hang Wilwa!" Volo smiled at his idea proudly. "Free beer for everyone who agrees!"

[Nogrod]

"Ditto!" Nogrod raised his almost empty pint to Macalaure's words and poured the rest of the pint into his mouth. A loud burb was heard as he laid the pint to the desk. "'cuse me brothers".

Then he saw Wilwa carrying him another one. Looking sideways he saw Boromir raising his pint to him. "Cheers, dude!" he called and got into his new pint.

Now where was I? Oh yes. He concentrated for a second to regain his balance, both mental and physical.

"Sorry everyone, about the sister-Lommy! Few things... hold on a second brothers and sisters, hold on." He adjusted himself more securely to the bench and took a liberal draught from his new pint, now third already.

"Down south, with Dealer-gangs: suspicion, lying, double-bluffs, triple-bluffs... You name it man. As we say down there: glory wordies, gory deeds. Why to use them noble rhetorics? To make us forget the earlier words said? Showin 'n' polishin a facade to hide the backyard? And whatissit there? Blaming without blaming, blaming others of what one does oneself... I and I don't like the scent of this. Too much monkey bussiness."

Nogrod let the pint down to the desk and sighed: "Though homey this is, in a way...". He was still shocked by the surpringly flashing and baffling removal from home. And the ale started to make him even more sentimental than he normally was.

EDIT: X-posted with Volo

[Sleepy Ranger]

"Interesting situation..." muttered Sleepy Ranger as he pondered over the happenings. Definitely not something that happened everyday but the exiled man had seen a lot in his time spent alone. His exile was self-imposed but such things hardly mattered at the moment. What mattered was staying alive, something he had come to be very good at over the years.

"Know all, trust none, play safe, take a risk when theres nothing to lose, get out alive." would pretty much sum up would the exiled ranger's game plan was. Of course since it was really too early to know anything it would be best to leave this time up to luck and take into account any advancements that took place.

"Well then..." he began, adressing nobody in particular. "I feel the need to spend some time with myself in thought about the matter. I regret that somebody will have to see the end today but such are things. Regardless, I'll see what the best course of action for my well being would be. Which, if you follow me, also does include the well being of you folk since the odds of one of us surviving by themselves is rather... uh... negative."

[Diamond18]

Diamond seemed to consider the question Menel put to her for a long while, appearing to be deep in thought. But this turned out false, as a tell tale snore escaped her. She jerked awake, blinked rapidly, and then scowled to hide her embarressment. Perhaps, she reflected, operating on 4 hours of sleep for two days straight is taking ascectism a mite too far. Though 'sleep is for the weak and the sluggards' makes such a nice motto.

"What kind of explanation would you have me give?" she finally answered. "Does not the proof of their vices lay heavily upon them?" She paused, frowning, remembering that being overly loquacious was a vice as well, and said tightly, "Lommy is drunk, Gil is obsessed with pancakes, and Jenny is a thief."

She turned to Jenny and was about to make a reply to her, but was interrupted by Nogrod's grand entrance.

It was with nothing short of horror that she observed the weed-dealer as he went about his... whatever it was he was doing. Her eyes began to bug out of her head, which may or may not have also something to do with her severe little hairdo.

"You speak long of nothing," she accused. "And also use anakronistic slang, which is a vice of... some kind of bad group I wouldn't want to be a part of."

Diamond felt the delirium of lack of sleep and nutritious food about to overtake her, and as no one really seemed all that fangy at the moment, she went with her convictions and declared:

"I vote we kill

+ + Nogrod

for dealing in illegal drugs and exhibiting the most wilful self-indulgence here. And that is saying a lot given present company. "

After speaking thus, she promptly fainted.

[Valesse]

In frustration Valesse stared at the tiny...door. Yes, that is what they were called. The remains of a once beautiful tree, stripped of it's bark and handled thoughtlessly hour by hour. Come to think of it most of these buildings were made of the corpses of ruined trees. And here she was almost expected to appear inside this tiny structure!

"Hrrrrrmm", she groaned to herself, branches and boughs creaking with each direction she swayed. Slowly a thought occured to her and Valesse carefully leaned down toward the ground until she could just see inside a foggy window. With a woody finger she gently pushed a window open in order to hear the business going on from within.

"Who is this Wilwa? And how do they expect to -hang- her?" the Entwife thought. Clearly at least two of the clients inside were not at their best, and most others were eatting pancakes. On wooden tables! "Hmmm!" she exclaimed. Listening further there was speak of werewolves and a murder. "Most heinous a crime to take another life" the Fir nodded scornfully, eyeing still the overabundence of tree corpses decorating their commonroom, "and though it has been said before, you little people should not go about ignoring it for flat breads!"

"There has been much reason spoken here, but I do implore that it be spoken louder, as I can not bend in such a way to enter... As for you" She turned her large gaze toward Volo and Nogrod "Do not be so hasty that you can not speak, or speak thoughtfully. Hrrrm. Let us discuss what we have observed so far."

The Entwife bent further toward the ground, hoping for a better view. This was not at all comfortable, but nor was the situation. "Shifty, hasty ideas... hrrrm. These things are incriminating, and so is quick judgement. We seem very limited in our information at this point... some might feel that this is a useless hour, but as your tiny heads might come to it, it is not." She grumbled for a moment, having finally noticing the floor. Valesse took a deep breath and continued once more "You must ask yourself if your fellows are being bold or being wolfish, though I suppose wolves might sometimes be bold. Though I'm more inclined to believe that about bears. Ohhh! One used me as a scratching post once and it was awful!"

Shaking herself back into focus Valesse went on: "This Valier and Naria are suspect, and another this Menel perhaps, too? The first has spoken her woes away as far as I have heard, and that is all. This is not bold, nor does it seem wolfish... she is mourning." her branches creaked again, feeling strained Valesse stood and bent down in the other direction "And Naria has been eatting flatbreads. This too is not bold, nor is it mourning. Hrrrrm! This does not please me to find someone who would feel so little for the tragic end of a beautiful life."

"Menel, on the other branch, is some what bold, a little hasty... though not entirely brash. I do not believe that dice are a means to catching werewolves, but seeing as she has not cast a vote, it could have only been a sick joke in order to get others talking." Frowning even more, Valesse narrowed her giant eyes "And if this was the case, I should hope that your sense of humor improves."

Valesse blinked, another had been accused while she was delivering her thoughts. Shaking her large head the Entwife slowly fell silent.

[Kath]

Kath arrived, though her height meant that many people didn't notice for a time. She was in a rush anyway, huffing and puffing as she came through the door.

"I'm sorry!" She squeaked out, scrambling onto a stool by the bar. "I'm late, I know, and I'm going right out again in a moment. I've been called to taste some food across the valley so this is the last chance I have to get in here. And that means I have to vote early! So:

++VALESSE

Because she was the last person to speak and so the only one I've heard. It's random, I'm sorry, I have to go!"

She slid back off the stool and pushed through people's legs until she got back to the door. With a quick wave, she left.

[Valier]

Valier sat quietly and observed the others around her. "All these ninny's, young people....geez" she thought to herself. As she reached for her mug, her eye caught a quick movement near her hand. "The nerve of some people!! Steal my money will you...!!"

Valier with her wisdom and age smiled coyly at the young lady who now sat smothering her pancakes with berries. " Valier raised herself up and walked till she stood directly behind the young woman. " Now see here you young wipper-snapper!! I do not take kindly to thieves!! Now give me back what is rightfully mine!! and you my dear sickly Hobbit, bread and water? Now really....You seem a little sleepy....I would assume werewolves do not care for pancakes and beer and maybe perhaps you were out all night....killing people!!!!" I for one find you two young'uns to be mighty odd....who steals from others right in front of their eyes? no matter how old they are...and who in their right mind eats bread and water when there is more sustaining food to be had? I say we lynch one of these two....who needs them around anyways? We need no thieves, or sickly people who stay out all night!! I say you there Jenny....give me back my money, you, you .....thief!!! And Diamond Took....I say eat something!! You are skinny enough!"

Valier stood her ground and tapped her foot incessantly on the floor, she held out her hand with a scowl on her old face and waited.

[Boromir88]

"Diamond and Meneltarmacil seem the most suspicious to me right now. Because both have done the very thing that I find to be the most suspicious looking as far as the first Day is concerned. And that is accusing people based off their occupation. Perhaps I'm just fooled, but this has helped me find wolves in the past. Oh ya, I've had a past with wolves, as I think all of us here can talk a fair bit about. I find accusing those because of the occupation they have to be a very low trick, only low enough for a wolf to attempt. We're not here to lynch someone who has poor morals, or a whacky job, we're here to lynch Werewolves, how someone lives their life should not be considered a rock-solid factor or a basis for who's a wolf and who isn't." Boromir spoke loudly, yet clearly, so everyone could understand and witness what was going on. "Diamond, Menel, you will have to explain yourselves to me if one of you don't want a lynch vote from me."

[JennyHallu]

"It makes no sense to rail at poor Valesse," said Jenny conversationally, making no move to return the funds she had allegedly taken. "She's unconscious."

She wondered vaguely at what kind of mental issues this Valier might have. She'd stolen a few coins hours ago, and no reaction had been made then. Nor had there been, in this fevered and nonsensical diatribe, any mention of any of the scattered conversation that had filled those hours in between. Only random accusations made on the basis of personal standards of beauty and a few coins she must have counted lost anyway. Fleetingly, Jenny also wondered what was the exact meaning of being a successful thief when one was always preternaturally caught.

"Frankly, I must say my greatest suspicions are of Menel and Valier, right now," she admitted. "And mentioning Valier is mostly because she's accused me with even less reason. So has Menel."

[Valier]

I vote for

++Diamond18

Because who drinks water and eats bread when there is pancakes and beer? And who I ask you would be tired after staying up all night? A werewolf. That's who.

[JennyHallu]

After thinking over what she had said, Jenny chose to make a brief revision. "I meant that Diamond is unconscious, not Valesse. Teehee."

[Meneltarmacil]

"I agree that my statement may have sounded a bit wolfish, and I would like to clarify something," said Meneltarmacil. "My thoughts were simply that Naria's comment earlier did not appear too suspicious, as more dialogue generally is good for finding wolves and silence does not give us much to go on, regardless of who is silent. Now, while it is true that Naria's comment came early in the Day, her suggestion that we speak more is a good one and carries no apparent malice. Thinlomien appears suspicious to me for her attack on Naria in this case. The problem is that I suggested looking at Naria if Lommy turned out to be innocent, something that I honestly should not have said. I do not think Naria is a threat."

The ranger turned to Nogrod, Macalaure, and Borormir88.

"You three seem to like accusing me of being a wolf as of late, and were fairly quick to post one after the other. Of the three of you, I think it's possible that at least one could be up to no good. Nogrod was the first, and as his suspicions were justifiable (and his mind wasn't exactly working quite right), I'm going to excuse him for now. Between Boromir and Macalaure, I find the latter more likely to be a wolf than the former."

"Macalaure, you appear somewhat suspicious by your own reasoning. You said,
You say "if she turns out to be innocent"? Are you already plotting what to do after her death, even before she collected even one vote? Then you will go after Naria, you say, and expect us to accept this as logic, because it then will used to be the suspicion of a proven innocent. To me, this looks like a wolf laying the tracks to be able to excuse his involvement in the future lynching of no less than two innocents., which is somewhat believable, but if so, you incriminate yourself immediately afterward:
I do not say Lommy and Naria are innocent, but Menel's words strike me as very suspicious.One could say you are trying to cover your tracks with that last statement of yours. If my statement makes me a wolf, your statement does the same for you."

[Volo]

Volo was getting really sad about this, everybody ignored him. "In my days back in Rohan, with my good old inn, when I said something, everyone would listen! And agree!" the small bulky man said rather to himself.

"What is this with accusing Nogrod of werewolvery? No man enjoing life like that can be a werewolf. In Rohan, when I was a young lad there was this older guy, hmm... Ahriw, yea Ahriw his name. Now this guy got really confused at times, but it was the stuff, the stuff he had. Best man I ever knew! I got my Red Bunny through him, now that was something! But then this, this Ahriw, got himself killed. What's the big deal, if someone wants weed, no reason to cut him. He was a bright guy, Ahriw, at times. Not always, but hey, stupidity isn't a problem!"

Volo went to sit beside Nogrod and continued his talk. "And now, what's this? This rushing hobbit-like creature... Kath? Why whould you want to chop a tree down? How can a tree be a werewolf? Like that's... that's... well, you know. This Kath! She just pretends to be innocent. And I bet it's not from the food she eats! Just running through the inn and shouting her hate for a tree. Now that is without reason! Unless, Kath is a werewolf!"

Volo got up and tried to get ale from Wilwa, who refused to give him any, because of his accusations at the door. After shouting something not really understandable, he sat back near Nogrod. "Hey, Noggy, let's go to my inn. You can have as much of booze as you want, for free!" Volo felt happy about a person like this around. Why to take life so seriously? Thinking like this Nogrod is the key to all. Volo was really interested in this weed Nogrod had, something he never got his hands on however hard he tried. He whispered "You may have your stuff in peace there too. I might want to buy some too if this business with werewolves goes too far... I bet we won't live long old pal, we should enjoy our last days as much as we can. And if we do survive through this, I don't think I'll be allowed to sit in my inn any longer. This is just a good dream. Enjoy!"

[Macalaure]

"I like the two new suspects that have just been brought up." Macalaure said in pondering, "Both Diamond and Valier have not contributed very much to the actual discussion. Both already voted for non-existant reasons. Yet it makes me much more suspicious of Di. I can't imagine both are wolves, because a wolf-on-wolf vote at this point of time would be dangerous. And why would a wolf make a vote for no reason just after Boro told everybody that this is what he will be looking for? As a wolf, I wouldn't."

He breathed deeply, satisfied with his 'profound' 'analysis'.

Then he added, with the tongue in his cheek: "Of course, as an innocent I wouldn't, too, but we're speaking of Valier here. Still, my lore-papyrus tells me to be ever wary of her."

After these words in a sudden the dark Easterling returned in him and with scorn he turned over to Meneltarmacil. "You deem me more suspicious than Boromir? Since when is agreeing to a statement less suspicious than working it out? And did you not see that Nogrod and I cross-er..-spoke? (Probably you didn't, since I didn't add it - my bad) And why do I incriminate myself with my own statements? I only said that I don't say Naria and Lommy are necessarily innocent, and with the best of my knowledge I cannot say any more than that. Your earlier statement was "Lommy suspects Naria for a bad reason. Let's kill Lommy. If she's innocent then let us kill Naria instead." Those are not the same. How exactly should I cover my track with the statement to not yet know? I think I can by now say

++Meneltarmacil

with all good conscience."

[Macalaure]

As his wrath vanished, Macalaure found his own words to have been too harsh. He walked over to Menel and sat beside him, soothingly speaking to him.

"See, Menel, you're not a bad guy. But that thingy you do at night, killing Glirdan and stuff, that's just no good. You're a great pal otherwise. Come on, I'll buy you a pint before we lynch you."

[Volo]

"Yea, it's

++Kath!

That rushing just sounds innocent... But really, it's the way of the beast!"
With that Volo stood up, said "High time to rest, I have to be in good health to run away from werewolves. And to drink beer! Anyone can come to my inn, the cellar is open. Just don't enter my room!" and left the inn.

[Nogrod]

Not surprisingly, Nogrod felt an urgent need to go to the toilet soon enough. After he had drained his pint he soon totally drained himself in the public conveniences.

Splashing fresh water to his face and drinking a lot of it, he was immersed in his thoughts. Pull yourself together man! No time to fly high now. Whatever this is... And he actually managed to pull himself together, at least somewhat. A small wonder perhaps, but still he managed it.

Jah! Now let me see, try to remember what's being said, whaddasit mean? he said inwardly to the mirror image of himself in the toilet. "Oh Yavanna, the goddess of all things growing, the weed especially and all its forms, give me strength to come to my right minds now." he said, now aloud, still watching his own face from the mirror. Then it got back to him, the thought from earlier on the day:Jah! Those talkin a lot always slip at some point... those can be handled. But beware of those not saying anything or just going for the nonsense. After waiting for a second he wiped his face clean and went back to the bar.

"Brothers and sisters, and anyone wishing to buy some weed - I promise it will get you a light sleep tonigth in this hounted place we all are drawn! I want to declare my thoughts this far as I have gotten myself a bit more sober. Man this has been a day!" Nogrod waited for the tumult of the bar to die down before he continued.

"A bit dramatic silence now isn't it? Sorry, this was not so important... but as I have your ears now, so hear my view of the situation." He looked desperately for any untaken pint of ale available but unluckily didn't spot any. Well, you could try it once this way too...

"If nothing drastic happens, I will not be voting for Boromir or Macalaure today. They have dared to make points and discuss them. Maybe they are the baddies, but if they keep on making cases as openly as they have thus far, they will slip at one point or another. Let's not lynch them!" He made a pause.

"I won't be voting for Jenny or Valesse either, even though they have not contributed as much in actual "substance", whattaymean: open points of suspicion, they've talked wisely and carefully - possibly too carefully, I must add the reservation here. But anyhow, I hope we'll see it later. If innocent, they are a great help to us." Finally Nogrod had managed to get to the desk and order the next pint from Wilwa.

"But then comes the hard part... Sorry to steal the word here brothers and sisters, but I'd like to make my thoughts known. It's just so hard to gather the thoughts in any clear order, so excuse me of not laying the following in any basic order of suspicion of mine." He took a fair draught of the ale and concentrated again.

"Okay, dudes, here we go-o!" he said and draw his breath.

"Meneltarmacil here was, and possibly is, my prime suspect, although his last defence sounded at least honest enough. Well a good wolf should sound reliable anyhow.

Lommy I'm still a bit weary about. Alarming signals in the air, I say. But she has some input, unlike some others...

Naria kind of said nothing, as didn't Sleepy, Mr. ranger here. I don't know what to make of them... But surely I would more likely see one of them hanged more than any of the earlier. Theu still have contributed something to our discussion. Same goes to Valier, but my lorebook says that it's pretty useful to have her around on Day3 and so on, so I wouldn't like to vote her off just on basis of this.

But there are worse to come. Four of them.

Kath just popped in and gave a vote, what's wrong with the hobbit? She might have her bussinesses, but still quite hasty I say - and a perfect cover for a wolf...

Diamond, another hobbit acting strangely. Just keeping in the banter mode and throwing lynching ordeals around on the basis of accent and personal habits. Something a wolf would like to do, cleaning the personal record from lynching an innocent...

Gil-Galad, absolutely saying nothing but one-liners and trying to make a presence with three times opening his mouth! My lore-books say he makes only one one-liner on a Day normally. Maybe there is reason for him to try here... :)

Volo is not giving any contribution either, but for my bussinesses. Okay, he's young and inexperienced in the matters of the world, surely, but still..."

Saying it aside to Volo in whisper: "C'mon, you can buy weed from me here too. How much would you have and what kind? Wait a moment and we'll settle a fair trade here. We just have to settle this here where most of the others are. Maybe you can lure us to your place tomorrow - whichever of us lives by then."

EDIT: X-posted with a few... (bolding "Valier")

[Boromir88]

"Actually Menel, I had began suspecting you in post 133 at 8:48 this morning, and asked some questions, which you felt like you didn't need to reply to. Not answering the questions, doesn't make you look suspicious to me, but it was me who first began to question your intent, if I may say so Mr. ranger sir." Boromir replied.

Boromir then addressed the rest of the Village. "If my records are correct, we have a few hours left of voting and so far it stands like this:

Thinlomien for Naria (1)
Gil-Galad for Valier (1)
Diamond for Nogrod (1)
Kath for Valesse (1)
Valier for Diamond (1)
Mac for Meneltarmacil (1)
Volo for Kath (1)

With myself, Sleepy Ranger, JennyHallu, Naria, Nogrod, Meneltarmacil, and Valesse left to vote."

[wilwarin538]

Wilwa scurried about, giving water and dry toast to Diamond, telling all those who just arrived what they had missed, giving a pint to Nogrod. For such a sad day it was very busy.

When Volo tried to suggest hanging Wilwa, she refused to give him anything todrink and thought to herself, I know more then they do, and they know that. They can't lynch me.

She walked back behind the bar as the day started to come to an end.

(2 and a half hours left in the Day)

[Nogrod]

"You're right, Boro-man! Spreading too much is not the way to make things work." Nogrod answered the Dale-man.

"So now it's only a question of whether we wish to go for someone who's trying to slip under radar or someone who tries to make him/herself heard? Somehow I feel sorry for all those who get nailed innocent after trying to stir discussion on Day1. It's so bad. But there is a wealth of one-liner people here from whom it's hard to pick up the hiding wolf... So Menel or one of the ones in hiding"

Nogrod looked around the bar, now clearly more on top of things he had been the whole day. Vomiting always purifies the body, he thought to himself and tried to catch any signs of fright in any one's expression.

[Sleepy Ranger]

"It is time I reckon." Said the rather distracted ranger as he got to his feet. "Going by what exile has taught me I silently observe and make my own conclusions and decisions. Once I know, I speak. Obviously I know nothing at this point." Sleepy smiled a bit. Maybe a memory from an old day or maybe something else but either way it was probably irrelevant to the situation at hand.

"I reckon

++Macalaure

is one of the three we're after. Why? Well probably because of the way he has been. Mind you, I dislike a fair number here but when it comes to survival... hate is not something you take into account." He nodded at the folk present. "Now if you'd excuse me..."

[Boromir88]

"It's that time for me to return home and make sure all the dead have been behaving nicely, and actually they can be of some good company at times. To me Menel's been the most suspicious looking one all day....so...

++Meneltarmacil

Yes, Miss Wilwa, that is my final answer."

Before leaving the door he turned around, and the rest of the villagers fell silent. "I'll be back to gather the dead...and good night, don't let the bed wolves bite." With that Boromir was gone.

[wilwarin538]

Votes so far:

Naria - 1
Valier - 1
Nogrod - 1
Diamond - 1
Menel - 2
Kath - 1
Maca - 1
Valesse - 1

Now this is making me mad, you shouldn't all vote for the same person, try to spread out your votes more tomorrow. :rolleyes:

1 hour and 20 minutes left.

[Nogrod]

"Okay, Boro. Tying things up and ending the spread now. It was ridiculous so far, I say. Eight votes for eight different candidates. That's no way to lay pressure on anyone!

And I'm getting a bit weary too...

So let's get rid of Menel toDay. I've suspected him from the beginning and he's the best candidate I can go for.

If he is an innocent, let me say that we look pretty much more closely for people trying to fly under the radar tomorrow. The shady-ones become more dangerous by each day! In the end, the most dangerous wolves are those we do not see..."

With that Nogrod filled his pipe and lit it carefully, looking for Wilwa's reactions to him lighting his pipe of weed in her bar. I need this, what a nerve-wrecking evening... Some soothing from here woman! Sister, you can't deny this?

After a few puffs inhaled passionately he finally came forwards to Wilwa: "Okay, concentrating the vote for a bit here...

++ Meneltarmacil"

With that he staggered out from the bar, puffing his pipe as he went. Oh, my friend-ants! So where do we go now? The doggone Gravel-monster again! We shall outwit him, let's take the route over the grass and leap over his traps, shall we? Yay, brothers you are to me. I and I loves you! Now let's get stoned mates?

[Valesse]

Valesse had been making a variety of sounds since Kath the hobbit ran over her roots and through the inn, though most of them were actually a mild entish curse. "These tiny halflings are far too hasty, and not careful at all! Brha-hommm!"

Leaning back over to see inside of the inn, counting the current clients, the fir sighed. "I am displeased with this Naria, who is silent with her fill of flat breads. It is not bold, nor is it compassionate. Though I do consider the fact that we have little evidence at the start of this first day, and that some, as I stated before..."

She blinked, noticing the fireplace. Rustling her branches impressively Valesse carried on her thought: "I find it a shame that not even a breath was raised against our mentioning. Perhaps this... Gil-Galad's flat bread batter is too thick and has impeded her speaking ablities." The Entwife took another moment to think.

"Either way whatever it is I have to say has been mentioned... that is the problem with being cautious. Boromir88 states the blame on careers, and many of us has mentioned silence. Perhaps it is not my Hrrrrmm, what is that human word? Elves and Ents are not hasty enough to use it... 'Hunch', yes, that is the one... I will not act on my 'hunch' but logically, and though it is very grave

++ NARIA

has my vote for tonight. I apologize, warrior, but your apathy and silence sit as with me just as well as axes do."

[Meneltarmacil]

"Ooh," Menel groaned. "I'm having somewhat disturbing thoughts of being hung on a noose at this point. I wonder why that is?"

"Really, my attacks on people's occupations were merely in jest, the ranger continued. "JennyHallu was simply a random choice based on the way my die rolled. And I don't suspect Naria of being a wolf, either. I'm as clueless as the rest of you here."

"At this point," said Menel, "my vote goes to

++Valier

She has posted just enough for us to know that she's around, but has said absolutely nothing of value. Sounds kind of wolfish to me.

[JennyHallu]

"Sounds kind of Valier-ish, if you ask me." Jenny sat deep in thought, head resting on her hands. "The decision is, of course, a difficult one. My vote shall be motivated by four concerns: I do not wish to present any new candidates this near to sundown; I do not wish to contribute in the death of one who has been unable, by the call of other duties, to participate here as he or she has wished; I do not wish to lose, this early, the benefit of any villager prone to honest and thorough care in their own voting; and I, of course, don't wish to vote for someone I do not believe wolvish.

"For these reasons, I think that today I shall vote

++Macalaure,

for it seems to me he has been just as suspect as Menel...as far as anyone can tell with so little to go on."

[Boromir88]

Boromir returns back into the inn and immediately makes his presense known. "Well I'm back, as promised, so who's body am I picking up today? Though I tell you I won't take no wolf body, don't want to catch their disease or anything."

[Naria]

Naria was in a panic! Not knowing who to pick for death had always been her downfall. With a big sigh she made her hasty decision

++Lommy

"Well...might as well add another name to the pile, eh."

[Glirdan]

Please stop voting and posting. Death will be up in a minute.

[Glirdan]

After burying the body of Glirdan, the other villagers tried to go back to their lives as much as possible. However, they all found it rather hard. Instead, they all congregated in Wilwa's Inn to discuss what happened and to attempt to weed out the Wolves.

They discussed and discussed until they could discuss no more. At the end of the Day, Wilwa gathered the villagers so they could vote for who they wanted. To make things a little interesting, Wilwa had set up a booth surrounded by a curtain with a table, a piece of parchment and a quill to write the name of who they wanted to be lynched.

Once everyone had voted. Wilwa went in and brought back out the votes.

"I have tallied the votes which stand thus:

Naria - 2
Valier - 2
Nogrod - 1
Valesse - 1
Diamond - 1
Meneltarmacil - 3
Kath - 1
Macalaure -
Thinlomien - 1

This means that you are the one to be lynched Menel."

The villagers turned to look at Menel and screamed in horror. Where there had once been a man stood a gargantuan beast, covered from head to foot in fur. A tail had sprouted and he had grown a few inches taller. His feet, nails, ears and hands had grown as well.

"So, you think you can take me? Well, come get me!" he cried and he ran out of the village. The villagers chased him. Sleepy had drawn his bow and fired at him. The first two missed. The third hit him right in the arm. With a howl of pain and fury, Menel wrenched the arrow out, dripping with blood.

"So that's how you want to play is it?" he snarled. "Well then, we'll see about that!!" He rushed forward and grabbed Kath, the closest too him. She screamed in horror.

"Help!! Help!!"

"Oh, what do we do, what do we do?" Valesse cried. Everyone turned to look at her with a glint in their eyes.

"Hmmm. Well, you could always step on him," grinned Gil.

"I can what? Oh!! That's right!!" With that, she rose her foot and raised it over Menel. He looked up in shock and at the same time released Kath.

"This is one tree you won't blow down you big bad Wolf!" Valesse yelled in victory. And she stepped on him. There was sickening crunch and she moved her foot. Menel had been squished, flat as a pancake.

The villagers turned away from the gruesome site, a glint of victory in each of their eyes. And true to his word, Boromir did not touch the body of the dead Wolf.

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

Dead

Glirdan (mod) - Mauled to death on Night 1
Meneltarmacil (wolf) - Squished into a pancake on Day 1

Alive

Valesse
Gil
Valier
Naria
Diamond
JennyHallu
Nogrod
Boro
Sleepy Ranger
Lommy
Macalaure
Volo
Kath

Day 1 is over. Night 2 begins. Wolves, start PM'ing. I need a name from the Seer, the Wolves and the Ranger.

PS: Wilwa, turns out I didn't need you. :rolleyes: Thanks anyway...you can delete your post.

[Glirdan]

JennyHallu had gone back to her hut with a wide grin on her face after the murder of the Wolf Meneltarmacil. Night had fallen and the stars were shining as she reached her cabin door and opened it.

When she walked in, she noticed a big surprise. All of her belongings had been stolen. She rushed into the kitchen and everything (including the sink!!) had been stolen. "But I'm the thief!" she yelled savagely. "Who would do this to the thief of all thieves!?"

Then she heard two low sniggers in the doorway behind her. "Uh, we would pretty lady!"

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

The villagers woke up the next day feeling refreshed and quite pleased with themselves that they had found a Wolf on the first Day.

"What are the chances!?" Valesse smiled.

"Very slim. Infact, there is a-" started Valier, but she was quickly interupted.

"Umm, there's one of us missing..." Gil said slowly, his voice quavering slightly as he spoke.

The others looked around and counted. It turned out he was right. A sudden silence fell about the crowd.

Finally, Macalaure piped up, while shaking uncontrollably, "Wh-where i-i-is Jen-JennyHallu!?"

The village walked over to her house and knocked.

"I smell death..." Boromir stated solemly.

The others, heeding his words, opened the door slowly. A strange site met them. All of Jenny's belongings had disappeared.

"What the..." Nogrod started. Then he walked into the kitchen and shouted for the rest of the villagers.

What they saw made them even more confused. All of her belongings in here had disappeared as well. What was worse was there were dark red stains all over the wall that looked horribly like blood. The odd part about all this was that there was no body. They searched the entire house from top to bottom and in the yard and didn't find her body.

"Well, it looks like she's been...stolen!" Naria shrieked incredulously.

They all left the house, completely bewildered and sad at their loss.

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

Dead

Glirdan (mod) - Mauled to death on Night 1
Meneltarmacil (wolf) - Squished into a pancake on Day 1
JennyHallu (innocent) - Killed and her body stolen on Night 2

Alive

Valesse
Gil
Valier
Naria
Diamond
Nogrod
Boro
Sleepy Ranger
Lommy
Macalaure
Volo
Kath

Day 2 starts. Wolves stop PMing. You may now start your discussions. Remember that the Day will still end at 6PM Eastern Time tomorrow. Also, Wilwa will not be around much for this Day so please grab yourself some drinks. Thanks.

[Boromir88]

"Well that's not good" Boromir stated, "who took the body? I'm being serious, is someone trying to run me out of business or something? I mean someone has to take care of all these dead people. Now, I won't touch no wolf body, but I never said anything about not picking up slashed up bodies. I mean, hey, I've handled lepers, and warts, and boils, and rabies, and scabies, and all sorts, just will not come near no wolf body, I tell you that. All other dead, leave me to get rid of, everyone got that?"

They all stared at him blankly, some looked as if they were questioning Boromir's sanity.

"Well, now that that's clear" Boromir said rather chummily, "Later I will inform everyone who I most likely won't be voting for today, unless for some unforseen circumstance comes up. And who I will be looking at as possible wolfies."

[Volo]

Volo woke up early this day, strangly refreshed. It must be this dreamworld. He didn't hurry out, feeling that nothing good would come from that Volo sat down and continued eating all this great food Glirdan left him with the inn. One werewolf out, so easily... Not that I did anything. Not that I need to do anything. Ah, it's a nice feeling when you can just do anything you wish knowing that it won't make any difference in the end. Volo explored his inn once more and found some things he didn't notice before, an another wine cellar and a hidden door to his bedroom right from the first wine cellar. I wonder if there are more passages in this town... Knowing them could make this dream few days longer.

When he left the building, he noticed the commotion outside, it seemed that JennyHallu was murdered, not that Volo felt much pity... But that meant Jenny was innocent and that Menel's die was right, Jenny would die. She was rather nice, maybe I'll miss her later...

By all he heared, Volo thought of Valier suspicously. "It was pretty sure that Menel would be lynched, so he might have voted Valier to save her from suspicion knowing that she wouldn't be lynched anyway, or that it didn't matter which wolf should leave as long as the other would get out clean... And it seemed that Valier was against Jenny.

And them Lommy acted too quickly, not that Naria possessed much threat to her, it would have been better for her to stay quiet and vote next day, she wouldn't have been lynched for that...

Mac on the other hand, I would trust, he voted against Menel too early to feel safe about it, the same with Boromir. Nogrod voted later, Menel already had the most votes on him. But I'll not suspect him yet.

If Valier is innocent then Gil could be a werewolf, both he and Menel voted against Valier.

Diamond also made a hasty choice, Nogrod hadn't said anything close to the point yet. I think Diamond knows that Nogrod isn't as stupid as he looks.

Kath only rushed through and shouted against Valesse, without much reason. She should have waited... But then on the other side, why wouldn't she want to enjoy her time in this world...

Valesse voted against Naria without a large reason, suspicious...

Sleepy Ranger was against Macalaure, but I don't feel, that can be read too strange..."

At that Volo went to Wilwa's inn carrying his own beer with him. Now this time, I'll listen to what people have to say and have a pint, or two, or three, doesn't matter... "Do you have records on things like this from the past?"

[Thinlómien]

"So Jenny is dead", Thinlómien said ponderingly when she entered the inn after Volo. "That at least proves one of my suspicions wrong. Last night before falling asleep I thought about everything that had taken place and had been said, and I must say the young thief was one of my suspects. Evidently she's not one of them anymore." She rolled her eyes.

"As to other people I find a bit suspicious at this phase... Valesse the entwife, I must say, though I love trees. As our secondary innkeeper here pointed out", Thinlómien said, pointing at Volo, "her vote was quite odd. Naria is not very suspicious in my opinion. (Yet, not innocent-like either.) My lorebook tells me she's acting like all people in the Nariatic family, and that has nothing to do with her innocence or guiltyness. Yes, I voted her yesterday, but I didn't have very many people to choose from. Valesse, on the other branch - like she herself puts it - did have a lot to choose from. She says her vote is logical though the only things she blames Naria of are apathy and silence, and the later surely belongs to the normal behaviour of individuals belonging to the Nariatic family."

"Di has been really whimsical too, but that's been normal for gem-people on first days for ages. It makes me uneasy anyway so I'll be watching her."

"I'm inclined to trust Boromir, Nogrod and Macalaure for a while, because they all played a major part in Menel-wolf's lynch. However, that doesn't mean I will blindly trust them or their innocence. No, they're just not on the top of my suspicion list, or close to it. I concentrate on other people unless the menel-lynchers do something alarming."

She went to get herself an apple juice and a loaf of bread. "Of the others I can't really say anything before I hear more of them. Hopefully I will get a chance to."

[Naria]

A low snicker, then an outburst of laughter erupted from within a corner of the inn. "Nariatic! priceless...phew...thanks Lommy, I haven't laughed that hard in awhile."

[Macalaure]

"Alas for poor JennyHallu! Too early she left this world etc. and so on." Macalaure entered the bar, unshaken by the nightly bloodshed and corpseloss, "Let the view of this abhorrent act not distract us from our task! One wolf is down, the next we look for.

So,... who of you is most likely to have done this terrible deed?

Boromir looks pretty innocent for now. He came up with a lot of good reasons yesterday. I saw no fault in what he said.

Same holds for Nogrod. He told us to take a thorough look at the quiet villagers. Convenient this is, since he is not a quiet one. But I will overlook this for now.

Valesse and Lommy gave some decent reasoning yesterday and Volo today. The two look innocent to me as well - at the moment.

Kath was short on time yesterday. She's still neutral in my book for this reason. Let's wait what she shows us today."

Macalaure took a glance at the bored and tired crowd. "Have you finished about who's not guilty?", he heard one murmur.

"Your patience will be rewarded - right now. Here are my suspects:

Valier contributed close to nothing yesterday and her vote was void of reason. Yet I will tolerate it for the moment, because of the reasons I gave yesterday and because she's Valier. Still my lorepapyrus tells me to not be too patient with her.

Naria is suspicious to me. First she tells people to talk while not talking herself, then she throws her vote away at the end of the day. Keep a close look at her, I say!

Then there is Gil-Galad, or isn't he? What he said was of no importance, sadly, but what was said about him: he was mildly suspected by Menel! Wolf-on-wolf-vote, or did Menel just see an opportunity for voicing suspicions at innocents, as probably with his suspecting Lommy? Speak yourself out today, Gilga!

Which leaves me with my two prime suspects: Diamond18 and Sleepy Ranger

Diamond didn't give any real contributions to our cause. Her vote was for no reason. It's weird that Menel commented on her fun accusations and told her to go wolf-hunting instead. Why would he ask this of an innocent?

Sleepy as well didn't come up with a lot. I was indifferent on him, but then he cast his vote: for me! This is not a problem to me, if it is done with some reason. His reason was 'Well probably because of the way he has been.' Would you care to provide just a little bit more detail? Until then, you remain to be my top suspect. If I had to vote now, it would be you."

At last Macalaure arrived at the end of his speech, exhaled and sat down. Murmuring "All this stuff on an empty stomach... need something good to drink..." he wandered off to loot the newly-deserted kitchen.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod's head was humming. He had clearly overdone the celebration of last night's wolf-kill. One too much man? Gettin' old nowar'we? He now regretted taking the "one more" pill before going to sleep.

He had managed to join the others on the square in the morning anyhow, though he felt dizzy and his senses were still being subdued. The actual data collected by his senses here and now and his memories of the last day were beautifully mixed with his quite private visions.

There was a horde of leaves that were chasing a host of Emperor penguins which tried to catch a plateful of pancakes that were just running amok. He tried to pinpoint the pancakes but had crashed to a door. He fell beneath it just before the dragon bursted its fiery breath, burning the whole inn that had asked him for some weed. He tried to cool himself with a pint, but the pint had accused him of bad habits and fainted, melting away. He was shot through the galaxies just to meet a falling spermwhale shouting "No time Tolouse!" and falling and falling. And there was no thief around to pick the big and stony concrete thing from its path.

"No!" he yelled just before landing face on to the kitchen floor. His nose was bleeding. Blood? A bit lot I daresay brother. "What the..." he called and the others came to the kitchen after him.

It was somewhat unclear to Nogrod whether Jenny had really died or just vanished as he followed others to the bar. He was confused also. They had done so well last night but now there clearly was a problem again. Didn't they just win already? It seemed not. He took a pill from his pocket and swallowed it as he went. Cool now man, cool now...

In the bar Nogrod ordered a gin-tonic from Wilwa and sat back to a cosy armchair, sipping the cool drink slowly and listening to Boro, Volo and Lommy making their points. Then he fell into his thoughts for a while. The abyss was coming to him again. He had just a little time.

Swiftly he sprang up and declared aloud: "Brothers, sisters,... if we have a go today, we go for it! Lemme be clear, we go for any go. But if we have not? Man, what to do?" he took some strengtht from his glass and continued: "I really would like to see our quiet companions to step forwards today. By witholding your mind you may hope to stay safe but if even one of you is a wolf? Well, cursed be the day then and shame on us not bothering to look for where the ghosts abide. No excuses today, no anymore! Get involved or be suspected! I mean, down south..." Nogrod started a mumbling monologue that was slowly dying down to a mere babble about sneaky drug dealers and gang wars where some had sneaked themselves to win great prices with just staying in the shadows.

Then it was time for Nogrod to fall into the shadows himself. He literally fell to the armchair and passed out. The glass cracked to the floor as he fell.

EDIT: X-posted with Macalaure

[Boromir88]

" 'Ere's how I see things right now, and as far as who I won't be voting for today, unless if some unforseen reason appears, Macalaure, Nogrod, Thinlomien, Valier, and Naria.

'Mac and Nogrod because of their votes for a known wolf. Now we can throw around insane ideas about wolf-on-wolf votes, but bottom line is Day 1 there's no reason for wolves to do this. Losing a wolf on Day 1 is not something they want to do as it starts them off on the wrong foot and gets them behind. If anything, that's something I would suspect wolves would want not to happen, there simply is no logical reasoning to send out a suicide wolf on Day 1. If a buddies death become apparent, then it's more likely, but it being Day 1, with very spread out and tight voting, there simply is no reason to lynch a fellow wolf. If any vote would have been a wolf-on-wolf vote, it would likely have been the first one, as perhaps they would think that it wouldn't amount to their buddies lynching, but I severely doubt this is the case. Mac announced his suspicions on the very odd acting Menel, knew that there were at least two others that noticed this very thing, so I doubt that if he was a wolf he would have voted for a fellow wolf. Same for Nogrod, at this time there were still several people left to vote, voting was spread out and tight, no reason to lynch a fellow wolf and start off on the bad foot.

'Thinlomien and Naria because of Menel trying to point suspicion towards them. This was the very behaviour that I and others noted as strange in Menel, as it looked like he was trying to incriminate people without really incriminating them (or getting his stinky paws filthy) With these two, their innocence isn't as strong of a feeling as Mac and Nogrod's, but at least for today there's no reason as far as why I should consider them as wolves. And I also agree with the observation made by our stablehand:

"No, they're just not on the top of my suspicion list, or close to it. I concentrate on other people unless the menel-lynchers do something alarming."

'I'm never fond of conjuring up crazy what-if theories, I think that gets us too off our focus as far as what blatantly is wolfish and what 'crazy possibilities' wolves may try. Though those whacky possibilities are fun, it tends to lead us off focus from those who are blatantly making wolf slip-ups, and so if there's no reason to see why someone looks suspicious, there's no reason for me to consider voting for them, or conjuring up these whacky 'what if one of them was a wolf-on-wolf vote.'

'Valier because of Menel's vote for her. It's possible that Menel saw his death coming so cast a vote for a fellow wolf to throw everyone's suspicion off Valier. But is it also not as equally possible that Menel was doing that to get us all thinking that he was voting for a fellow wolf, but really we'd be lynching an innocent instead? Anyway, what I'm saying is again, I'm not fond of these reverse psychology wolf tricks, and will not base my suspicions purely off some cooky scenario I've concocted.'

'So that means my vote will most likely be going to one of these people today...Valesse, Diamond, Volo, Gil-Galad, Sleepy Ranger, or Kath. I'll be back with what I've thought about these fellow villagers or possible wolves in disguise later. For now, I must be going. But before I go, a special congrats to our Seer for surviving the Night...yes I just had to be the demented guy that brings up the Seer and sparks a big debate...I'm sorry it just wouldn't be truly Werewolf without it. But for now, there's a body to be found."

Edit: Cross-posted with Nogrod and Mac.

[Nogrod]

From between his wild and psychotic dreams Nogrod somehow heard Boromir talking. First he just let it flow through, but then he heard his list of suspicion:
Valesse, Diamond, Volo, Gil-Galad, Sleepy Ranger, or Kath"Ditto!" he shouted and then fell down to his chair again, mumbling something about Volo making it a bit better this day.

Then it was just black.

[Kath]

Kath entered more slowly this time, having realised she’d run over the tree roots of an Ent the Day before as she heard the hrrrming following her, and not wanting to do it again. Not many people were up and about yet, but it seemed that the wolves had taken another, literally. Quietly Kath went up to the bar. Wilwa didn’t seem to be around but she didn’t want a drink anyway. Reaching behind the counter she pulled out a small brightly coloured bird and went to sit at a table with it. She took out a pen and paper and knocked the bird on the head sharply with the pen. As though this was a cue, it began to talk, and what it said was what everyone had said all of yesterday, for it was a trained parrot and had recorded all the events. Listening intently Kath began to jot down notes. Eventually the parrot finished speaking and Kath returned it to it’s position behind the bar so it could continue recording todays words, though she hoped she’d be around to hear them herself this time.

Standing up she took her piece of paper and called out to the room.

“Excuse me. Excuse me!”

Slowly people turned to look at her and she continued.

“I know some people don’t like summaries, but I’ve made one in case anyone thinks it might be useful. It will be up on the wall by the bar if anyone wants to read it.”

She pinned it up, and this is what it said:

Post 119: Menel went randomly, picking Jenny due to a dice roll. It might explain why the remaining wolves went after her.

Post 120: Gil is remarkably flippant, but that is his way.

Post 121: Boromir suspects Menel. Wolf on wolf suspicion perhaps but I think he cross spoke with Gil, so it may simply have been due to Menel being the only one, in Boro’s opinion, to have spoken.

Post 122: Naria tells Gil to concentrate, and then watches.

Post 123: Menel turns on Boro (explaining his suspicion of Jenny) and Gil. Again possible wolf on wolf, or because they’re the only ones there.

Post 124: Strange speak from Gil, doesn’t tell us anything.

Post 125: Naria wonders where everyone is.

Post 126: Valier rambles and then watches.

Post 127: Lommy looks at Menel, again possible wolf on wolf, mention quick suspicion of him early. Conspicuously doesn’t mention Boro. Mentioning one comrade and not the other perhaps.

Post 128: Mac talks and watches.

Post 130: Lommy jokingly insults Mac and gives stirring speech. But uses the word ‘victims’ which I find odd, as the term ‘fellow innocents’ might be a little more appropriate. As yet only those dead should be termed victims.

Post 131: Lommy votes Naria for picking on those who haven’t spoken when she hasn’t spoken herself. Relatively good reasoning for an early Day 1 vote.

Post 132: Jenny agrees that silent Naria bears some watching.

Post 133: Boro banters with Menel and defends himself against Mac.

Post 134: Di suspects all.

Post 135: Mac asks for chatter not silence, arguing still with Boro.

Post 136: Menel asks for reasons for suspicion from Di and suspects Lommy for jumping on Naria so fast, but says he’ll be happy to look at Naria if Lommy is proved innocent.

Post 137: Gil votes Valier with no reasoning.

Post 138: Jenny argues with Di.

Post 139: Nogrod suspects Menel, even through the drugs. Possibly wolf on wolf (it’s all based on that Menel chose suspicion randomly) but it seems more innocent.

Post 140: Mac suspects Menel. Same point as above.

Post 141: Boro agrees with Mac and acts friendly to Nogrod.

Post 142: Volo yells randomly.

Post 143: Honestly, no idea what the point of this post was!

Post 144: Sleepy talks to himself.

Post 145: Di votes Nogrod based on role. Not a great reason for a vote.

Post 146: Valesse suspects Menel after clearing Valier and Naria of suspicion.

Post 147: Kath arrived, apologised, voted Valesse randomly and left.

Post 148: Valier gets into her role a bit.

Post 149: Boro suspects Di and Menel for accusing based on occupation.

Post 150: Jenny suspects Menel and Valier because they accused her with no reason.

Post 151: Valier votes Di for no reason.

Post 153: Menel repeats his suspicions of Lommy but changes his opinion on Naria, saying she’s innocent. Accuses Mac.

Post 154: Volo defends Nogrod and accuses Kath because she was rushing.

Post 155: Mac suspects Di and Valier, but votes Menel because he thinks he was trying to twist his words.

Post 157: Volo votes Kath because she was so rushed.

Post 158: Nogrod suspects about half the village, but clears Boro and Mac, and partly Jenny and Valesse. Then goes on to seriously suspect Menel. If the Boro/Menel/Nogrod triangle is right, that makes sense.

Post 159: Boro defends his suspicions against Menel.

Post 161: Nogrod debates the benefits of loud versus quiet.

Post 162: Sleepy votes Mac ‘because of the way he has been’. Perhaps some clarification on that would help Sleepy.

Post 163: Boro votes Menel.

Post 165: Votes Menel and says to look at quieter people tomorrow. If he’s a wolf again this makes sense, as he is loud.

Post 166: Valesse votes Naria because she has been silent.

Post 167: Menel votes Valier after going back on all his earlier suspicions, claming they were all jokes. Might be an idea to look at who he suspected in light of that as he might have cleared them to save them being suspected after his death, which he thought was imminent. Course, could be a double bluff.

Post 168: Jenny votes Mac with little reason.

Post 170: Naria votes Lommy, just because. Not good from someone who claimed to have sat and watched all day, some suspicions should have been formed.

[Naria]

Naria's mood went from utter giddiness to an outright fervor. She brushed her clothes straight and cleared her throat as she walked over toNogrod and splashed a huge mug of water on his face. "Wake up man! You complain of how I am of no help...well sir, look at you....always smokin the pot and poppin the pills and washing it all down with a stiff cooler. Hmph, I do say isn't that the pot calling the kettle black, or however that term goes. We need you to stay around us with a clear head...I know it must be awfully hard for you, but maybe give it a go."

Before Naria was done with her rant she had a couple more things to say, "Oh yeah, there are a couple more things I'd like to say. I believe their very well could have been a wolf on wolf vote yesterDay, I mean why not weirder things have happened. The second thing is, Kath why put something up like this without a personal thought on your summary at the bottom or something? I just don't find them very helpful and actually they make me think that the one that has posted it is just trying to look helpful when really they aren't" With that she plunked herself down and spotted some more spamcakes and dug in.

[Kath]

Kath had been expecting this kind of reaction. Standing up she spoke directly to Naria.

"Naria, if you'll notice, I made personal opinions all the way through. Or at least, I made them where I thought they deserved to be made. If you wish me to spell it out clearly I find Nogrod, Lommy and Boromir suspicious because the way they treated Menel and Menel treated them looks to me like it could have been carefully choreographed. I want to keep an eye on them today and see if my suspicions increase or decrease as the days go by."

She made to sit down again, but had another thought.

"Oh, and it's nice to see you taking a more active role. While I don't hold with the theory that quiet means evil, I seem to recall you voting rather suddenly and randomly yesterday, so more input would be lovely."

[Boromir88]

Out of the corner Boromir reappears and everyone is startled for a second. "I'm not going to be so harsh sounding on you Kath," he said slowly, "as our Naria is over here. If it's of any comfort to you I actually learned a lot from your summary, Kath. What may not be so comfortable is you have quickly rised up the suspicion chart. You do supply commentary, but it seems rather flawed and like your grasping at straws, which gets my eyebrows raising. Let me explain....

'The biggest is that you note some sort of trio between myself, Nogrod, and Mac, and somehow throw Thinlomien also into the mix. And some how there has been this carefully choreographed fight on Day 1 between the wolves. Now the wolves do start off at an advantage having a whole night to plan their actions, but there's only three wolves, and perhaps I just got confused, but it seems like you are suggesting there is this grand conspiracy with five people (myself, Menel, Thinlomien, Mac, and Nogrod), and over the night the wolves set this up.'

'I'm rather curious as to how you think this is some great choreographing work of wolves. I can't speak for the others, but for myself, I thought I clearly defined my reasoning for suspecting Menel. His play of attacking people based off their occupation left a mark on my mind. I went back and searched through my family's ancient papers, lo and behold my disgruntled great uncle from Dor-lomin, wrote that he spotted a wolf because that person attacked an individual who wasn't the most moral person. That's when it clicked in me, that I'm not too fond of people going after other's occupation as I think it shows a sense of desperancy, to just try and throw suspicion at others because they don't have the same values as you. Which I remarked we're not here to lynch those with lower morals than say you, Kath, but we're here to lynch night killers. And Menel's behaviour greatly reminded me of the affair with my great uncle, which is why I felt suspicious of him.'

'As far as me being in some grand scheme with Menel and four other people. I'm not trying to get connected with anyone, if I happen to agree with you I will say so. I felt like Mac had brought up very reasonable points, as well as Nogrod, and that's why I agreed with them. Perhaps there comes a time where we don't see eye-to-eye, I don't know.'

'Bottomline is, this seems strange to me Kath and as if you are trying too hard to throw a bunch of people under the bus, so to say. There's only three wolves, but you've thrown multiple people together into working and creating this scenario of suicidal Menel, and a whole group of other people creating this choreographed scenario yesterday. Again, problem is there's only three wolves, one of which is dead, yet you have lumped together several people as working together, as if you are attempting to throw multiple people under the same boat of working together hoping others will follow up.'

'And again, I question why would intellegent wolves even do such a plan? Why set themselves up at a disadvantage after starting out with an advantage? There is no sensible reason that I can think of as wolves sending out one of their own to be suicidal and get themselve purposefully lynched on Day 1, it just doesn't make sense. Because this strategy sets the remaining wolves at a disadvantage and to get one of there buds purposefully lynched on Day 1 just doesn't seem semi-intellegent at all. Why go out and start with a lynching one of their own when an innocent could have easily been lynched on Day 1, as what most typically happens? No, wolves start creating these whacky scenarios when one of them is getting into trouble, I don't see it as something they would do when they start the day off at an advantage and could easily get an innocent lynched, especially when it is Day 1 and there is absolutely nothing concrete to go off of.'

'With that being said, Naria you have now raised some caution. I felt that you likely seemed innocent at the start, but quite frankly this attack of Kath's summary seems odd. Possibly trying to throw suspicion around, because clearly Kath did put in her own commentary throughout the summary.'

[Diamond18]

Diamond regained consciousness in the morning, and learned of the death of Menel with grim satisfaction.

"One dead werewolf," she said. "Excellent. I shall now have to cast my mind back over everything he said, even though I was unconscious during some of it. You may wonder how this is possible, well, I wonder too, but whatever."

She turned to Kath, "I appreciate the posting, it makes for an interesting read, much clearer also than most everything else. Still, it makes me slightly worried, since we are both Hobbits previously acquainted with each other, and if people know you like I know you, they know how devestating your analysis can be when you are using it for ill deeds."

She walked to the bar and helped herself to some day old pancakes, feeling that the age and coldness of them made the consumption of them less gratuitous.

Casting her eye on Nogrod, she observed, "I can't put my finger on it, but you still worry me. You talk long and pretty about the actions of others, calling on people to speak up and such, but that is all I really get from you and it isn't much. Seems a mite unfair to always be calling upon others to speak when that's most all you yourself are saying. Aye, I know I haven't said much of substance but then, at least I admit it. However, your vote for Menel at a critical time speaks well of you."

She heard her name mentioned in passing by Mac:

Diamond didn't give any real contributions to our cause. Her vote was for no reason. It's weird that Menel commented on her fun accusations and told her to go wolf-hunting instead. Why would he ask this of an innocent?

She snorted. "No one around here tells me what to do. Period. I'm a rebel and I've never ever been any good, I'm a rebel and I never ever do what I should. I mean, you think I'm into ascectism for the morality of it? Pshaw. I'm in it for the rebellion. Ask the other Hobbits... my parents don't speak of me. Anyway, as to why Menel said that, you will have to ask him in the afterlife."

"But," she continued, "speaking of those being coached, Volo today strikes me as very smooth for a newbie. This may speak well of his general intelligence, or it may indicate he's being helped along by a furry teammate. Time will tell."

"Eru willing, I will stick around and be able to contribute more to the discussion before I vote, but I must warn you that I feel another fainting spell coming on and do not know how long I can last."

[Valesse]

"Brrrrhmmm!" the meloncholy fir sounded, greeting the inn from her window. "I did have more introductions yesterday than you did young Thinlomien, yes" Valesse started "But as you will note we did not hear from the one we were both worried about until the very... very... end..." Raising her head once again, Valesse continued to address the clients.

"I will ask you to listen to your bird again and note that I was not suspicious of Menel, tiny Kath... but suspicious of Naria and Valier... but seeing Menel's true form now I regret mentioning it..." She heaved a sigh which blew over a stein inside "But even a tarnishing truth now is better than letting a misunderstanding fester."

"If you remember, I state my theory of the boldness of wolves..." The entwife looked pained, feeling foolish "I implied that lycanthorpes are trying to blend in and not stand out... I am- at least- a third wrong."

Slowly her eyes focused on the counter of the inn and in reached Valesse's long woody hand. In her fingers the fir captured a number of apples and brought them outside for inspection. "Yes... I am ashamed that I concluded that such creatures would be silent, when their duty is specifically to be tricksy like the orc. Hrmmm!" The ent placed each apple high in her branches, decorating her foilage like a lady would apply her earrings and continued with a far more greavous expression:

"I apologize for my foul assumptions of you, Naria, but unfortunately they remain... though much fainter than before." Valesse switched windows "I do believe that you will be a deal more active today which would negate my point in observing you." With a chorus of creaks and groans the entwife gave a short but warm smile before frowning once more. "With how my words were construde I will likely be interested in Kath."

"Oop!" Curiously the entwife looked suprised, her apples had all fallen from her branches and were she able, Valesse would be the color of a red wood tree. Gathering her adornments as quickly as a respectible ent might, she excused herself.

[Naria]

After Naria heard Kath out she meandered over to the wall where Kath's parchment hung. "Hmmm, well whadya know...there are a few comments." She looked back at the plump Hobbit and quickly offered an apology, "I am sorry dear I seemed to have missed your thoughts with my first read." She gave Kath a nod and turned her thoughts to other things.

"Valesse, no need to apologize....afterall are we all not suspect." Naria bent down and picked up two of the apples that had fallen and handed them up towards the Entwife's gnarly 'fingers'. Once again her attention was brought around, this time to the collector of corpses. She gave Boro a tap on the shoulder and begged the question, "How did you come to the conclusion that Kath has five 'suspects'? After I read through her note....again, I have not found such things. You must forgive me for I am a simple sort....I am just a warrior and may not be as astute as you may/or may not be....so if you would, please explain."

[Gil-Galad]

"Ah you forget the simple Werewolf ploy, they know they are doomed so they will vote for another werewolf to save it, and it would be foolhardy for werewolves to vote together when they can simply kill the person they wish gone"

[Thinlómien]

Having had her breakfast, Thinlómien opened her mouth again: "Kath, dear perian, I didn't like your summary. It made me - like some othe people, it seems - wary of you. You're throwing suspicion to all directions you can. Calm down a bit, little lady."

Then, she turned her eyes to the searcher of Death and Plague. "Boromir, I didn't like your reactions to Kath's summary either. You present the hobbit maid's opinions in a pointed way and thus change the meaning of her words a bit. As the warrior-Naria said you're drawing a bit too quickly this wolf quintet of yours. Surely if Kath suspects four people (plus dead wolf Menel) that does not make them all wolves in her opinion. (Except Menel the dead wolf of course.)"

Now, she eyed both the hobbit and the plague-addicted daleman. "Kath herself names three primary suspects, not more. Nogrod, Boromir and myself."

Thinlómien went and filled her cup with apple juice. "What is interesting here, is that all of the three of us - especially Nogrod and Boromir - seem to be enjoying a general position of trust in the village at the moment. I don't know yet what to think of this."

Seeing the innkeeper was not present (and her mother neither), Thinlómien took a hairbrush and started brushing her long brown hair in the table.

[Macalaure]

Macalaure returned from the kitchen with a full stomach and a peaceful expression on his face. Yet the peacefulness ceased as he saw the untrustworthy bunch that he was stuck with sitting in the bar, speaking nothing and giving each other strange looks. Each of them looked more suspicious than the other.

"Over in the kitchen I overheard some talk of a wolf-plot to sacrifice one of their own. I do not believe this. Keep in mind that wolves not only kill people to satisfy their hunger and to be winning in the end, they also kill for the sheer fun of it. Being dead, on the other hand, is pretty much the end of all fun for them.
I agree, it's a possibility. Still we should look for the more probable baddies today.

Kath has spoken, at last. I don't agree on all she said, but I will rest that for now. I also don't fully agree on Boro's accusation of her, so regarding Kath I'm as smart as before.

I notice that Diamond still hasn't come up with something profound. The vaguest of theories against Nog and Volo, weird comment on my words towards her...
Diamond is either a very stubborn and death-defying innocent - or a very stubborn and death-defying wolf. I have a feeling we will find out pretty soon.

Same holds for Gil-Galad.

How do you people get the idea that Menel suspected Naria? He continually defends her in his later words. Unfortunately, I fear this can be interpreted in both ways."

Macalaure slowly walked to a bench and laid down.

"And now, if you excuse me, myself would like to do a little nap - too much good food Wilwa has left behind."

[Diamond18]

I notice that Diamond still hasn't come up with something profound.

"Has anyone?"

Diamond rolled her eyes and choked down another cold pancake. "Seriously, though," she said, "the waters are more than a bit murky now and I don't see as anyone has come up with any great theories about anything, there's just a bit of general bickering and the same old trite arguments going around."

"Not that I blame anyone. We've all been yanked out of our elements and dropped into this place, and I for one am feeling a wee bit rusty."

"Which makes me curse the ever inconveinent deadlines which force me to vote half a day early all the time."

Diamond turned in her seat and said with a tad more confidence, "However, I have a better idea who to vote for today."

+ + Naria

"Menel's defenses of her are reason enough. Now, I've not had many dealings with Menel to know how he treats fellow wolves, if at all, but I'm going to with a hunch. Yep, a hunch. Profundity is overrated."

[Nogrod]

"Oh my head..."

Nogrod came back to his senses. Well at least somewhat. His skirt was still wet from Naria's mug of water that had not had the desired effect.

"Soo hungry... but can't stand the pancakes", he muttered basically to himself. Slowly he got him up from the chair and staggered to the door, his head was both heavy and light at the same time, his brain was swimming here and there.

"Okay brothers and sisters, I and I need to have some food and time for thought. Maybe some refreshments not sold in this bar..." He tried to flash a smile, but kind of didn't succeed in it.

"I'll be back in the evening with some ideas. Promise you guys that. Now I'm just too tired and dizzy. But funny how little things light fires when any bigger ideas are not around. Maybe we should think the argument between Boro and Kath again? Kath seems to be ready to spread her suspicion quite hastily.I find Nogrod, Lommy and Boromir suspicious because the way they treated Menel and Menel treated them looks to me like it could have been carefully choreographedMaybe she can elaborate on this "careful choreography" later on? Seems to be so careful that it can't be even seen? It's easy to throw that kind of blame if one can avoid explaining it further. And who should feel a need to just try accusing some persons out of the hat with that kind of vague theories? But Boro was admittedly quite stiff to counter her... Although Boro's point of wolves being really stupid to give away their advantage on Day1 when there is no pressing reason to do so still somewhat convinces me... I mean kind of a high price for achieving what? All of us Menel-voters have been suspected already toDay."

Nogrod shrugged his shoulders as he went out of the bar.

[Boromir88]

"Thinlomien," Boromir stated "let me show you what I mean. This is from Kath's summary:

Post 121: Boromir suspects Menel. Wolf on wolf suspicion perhaps but I think he cross spoke with Gil, so it may simply have been due to Menel being the only one, in Boro’s opinion, to have spoken.

Post 158: Nogrod suspects about half the village, but clears Boro and Mac, and partly Jenny and Valesse. Then goes on to seriously suspect Menel. If the Boro/Menel/Nogrod triangle is right, that makes sense.

'I admit there was a bit of confusion upon my part, I thought she was also tossing Mac into the bunch, but now reading through again it doesn't appear so. Which makes it at least make more sense. I did say that possibly I got confused, but it looked like she was trying to lump myself, Nogrod, Thinlomien, Mac, and Menel together in this wolf choreography scheme. Which I felt was odd, because with only two wolves remaing she's lumping together quite a list of people in this wolf scheme of hers. I'm trying to get across, why should we even consider this at this point? And like I said, I'm not a big fan of cooky schemes, because how often are they ever right? Perhaps the tricky, sneaky wolf would try it once in a while, when they're in a pickle, but smart wolves don't just go out and purposefully lynch one of their own on Day 1 when there is absolutely no reason to.'

'Oh and Thinlo, I'm not asserting any control in the village, you do whatever you want to do. Quite frankly I don't care if anyone listens to me If you choose to agree with me do so, one day perhaps I may see everything the same way as you. But I do get rather annoyed that after lynching a wolf on Night 1, suddenly those who got rid of the wolf have to be in partnership with them, while they completely miss the easy wolf signs, but it gets disregarded as being 'why would a wolf act so stupid.''

[Sleepy Ranger]

"I'm here at last. I doubt I can stay long. Busy day, I've things to do." Said the ranger calmly. "You can account my vote for Macalaure as random for most of the part. I had no solid reason but if you exepect someone to come up with some profound, complex and amazingly stupifying theory on the first day, under such conditions... I'd suggest you wake up. Dreamers will not save us."

"Now Macalaure, from what you said it sounded like you have no reason to suspect me other than the fact that I voted for you. You then add on that what makes you suspect me is because I just did not like the tone of your voice." The Ranger paused. "I still dislike it." He added and then continued. "Mayhap you're just trying to intimidate me? Trying to make me look away from you by saying you suspect me because I voted for you?" Another pause as the Ranger took a look around.

"Lad, I do not know if you have something to hide or if you are just over-reacting. Regardless it makes me believe I'm on the right track with you." The ranger stopped speaking for a while and then said. "I believe I'll think over all you've said and done so far."

[Valier]

Valier sat quietly in her chair, dozing off as old people tend to do. She had her own thoughts but was too tired to express herself fully at the moment. "All these young people like to bicker..... I believe I will keep my eyes upon, Diamond, Kath and Mac. They seem to me to be acting strange....Kath grasping at straws, Diamond acting odd and eating bread and water, and that there Macalaure....his reactions to others has raised my suspicions.... I am so tired today....My old bones cannot take the stress of it all...I may be coming down with something....I shall rest today and be refreshed for tomorrow. My brain works more clearly after some good rest." Valier's head fell to the side and light snoring could be heard.

I vote..... ++Diamond18

I have my reasons, but they are hard to grasp unless you are me.... I believe her behavior is off....I will explain more tomorrow after my long nap.

[Volo]

After having a good lunch of several courses, Volo walked to Diamond, patted her on the back and put some fresh water in a mug on the table before her. "You say I'm intelligent, thanks for that! No, I don't have any furry friends to help me, isn't that sad. I'm sure I'd live longer if I have a few of those... And good advise would be appreciated, but no, I have to think myself. That leaves less time to eat." He sat down beside Diamond. "Now my hobbit, would you be my furry friend?"

Volo's nice smile faded as he bolted up. "What is this? First Kath accuses people, who's reasons are seem good and now Diamond cleverly agrees! Isn't that exactly what you did?" he shouted. And added "Now somebody give me reason to trust those hobbits."

Volo walked quickly back to his table and drank a full pint.

[Kath]

Kath had gone over her summary from before.

"I'm sorry if I have confused anyone." She said. "I did not mean that all three would be wolves as that would, as has been said, be impossible. But many of my thoughts were based on the idea of those I am suspicious of working together. My suspicions lie on Boro, Nogrod and Lommy, but that is with, i.e Lommy and Boro both being wolves, or Nogrod and Lommy and so on.

Lommy's seeming surprise at being suspected when she believes she is in a 'position of trust' seems odd to me. I'm not sure what to make of Boro and Nogrod because their reactions are as I expected them to be."

Kath then sighed, resigned to the suspicion a second early vote would bring her.

"And so because I must again leave, and so few people have spoken, and I have more suspicion of only one of my suspects I must vote for:

++LOMMY"

And she left.

[Macalaure]

++Naria

[Boromir88]

"Well everyone, here's a rundown of how I feel about each one of you.' Boromir began. He continued 'Who I feel is innocent and will most likely not vote for them on this day, Nogrod, Mac, Lommy, Valier, and Gil-galad. Who I'm unsure and don't know about Volo, Sleepy Ranger, and Naria. Who I'm suspicious of and who I may vote for today, Kath, Diamond, or Valesse.

'The only new person I've brought up to the group of people I will likely not vote for today is Gil-galad. Gil's family history is filled with the play of not saying a lot, and not making a lot of sense. But, the little that I have heard from him today has made sense, and I don't think we should so easily disregard and ignore what he has said. To me, Gil doesn't say a lot, but that's not what's important, it's what they say and what they do. And so far Gil hasn't done anythng to raise suspicions from me.'

'At the beginning of the day I thought of Naria as more on the innocent side, but have grown just a tad bit wary for her quick jump on Kath's summary, and claiming there was no commentary in it (though she has taken that back). And to answer your inquiry Naria, it was a misreading upon my part.Kath said that in post 158 Nogrod had cleared Mac and myself, and I thought she was suggesting Nogrod, Mac, and I, along with Thinlomien were in league with Menel. In which case I later noticed that it seems Kath did not find Mac as a suspect and one of the one's in league with Menel. And that mainly she believed Nogrod, Lommy, and myself staged this fight with Menel.'

'With Sleepy and Volo I'm leaning a little more on the innocent side, but can't placea finger on them. Volo's done more today, which has cooled some of my uncertainty, but he doesn't have a lynched wolf under his belt yet. As far a Sleepy goes, I'm not somebody who goes after the quieter ones right from the start and I from what he has said, I find nothing overly wolfish about. I certainly hope when you aren't running around in the wild Sleepy that you would have some more time to share some insight with.'

'That means Diamond, Kath, and Valesse are the suspects I'm looking at. I guess I'll start with Kath. Though I did misunderstand part of her summary, and for that I apologize, I still find it wolfish. Perhaps it's just because I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, and still rather confused about her choreographing thought. I'll leave this question up for you Kath, to ask and think yourself. If I was a wolf, do you believe I would do something so bumbling as staging this act with a fellow wolf and purposefully get him lynched on Day 1? You have the access to my family records, some of my own have regrettably been cursed, but as you'll notice my family have never been one's to like whacked out conspiracy theories, nor the few accounts I have of wolf-members have they been one's to stage fights with fellow wolves on Day 1. Perhaps they attempt this later on in the game, but Day 1, no.'

'Valesse because of their interaction with Menel yesterday. Now yesterday, I'm afraid I didn't get too much out of Menel's posts, as he went after random people and didn't mention everyone. But just the interaction and words of Valesse about Menel gets me a little worried.
Menel, on the other branch, is some what bold, a little hasty... though not entirely brash. I do not believe that dice are a means to catching werewolves, but seeing as she has not cast a vote, it could have only been a sick joke in order to get others talking." Frowning even more, Valesse narrowed her giant eyes "And if this was the case, I should hope that your sense of humor improves."
This is a note I have jogged down in my book and made a reference of. Usually wolves don't like to group themselves together, they like to stay seperate as much as possible. But, they like to nudge a little suspicion towards a fellow wolf, without overly committing, it's a way of trying to appear innocent, like 'hey see I suspected him/her and they were a wolf!'. That's what it's designed for. I'm reminded by my great-great-great-great Grandpa's play as a wolf with Lalaith's ancestor who was also a wolf. And he didn't want to get people to overly become suspicious of Lalaith, but would say some things like 'this play looks wierd by her, I'll watch after her, but not going to make too much out of it.' It was designed to be a safe move, and make himself look innocent, as he would be nudging suspicion towards a wolf. And that statement by Valesse reminds me of my 4 times great grandpa's play with wolf-partner Lalaith. It looks like Valesse was doing this same thing, like 'Menel seems a little awkward, but I don't want to make too much out of it.' Just seems like a wolfish play, as I had a wolf ancestor who did the same thing.'

'Finally, Diamond, I just find her actions all around, most specifically in post 186 to be worrying. She goes after Mac's reasonable deductions by just saying she's a rebel and no one tells her what to do. And she seems to be jumping on with others who have found Kath's summary as slightly suspicious.'

[Gil-Galad]

I am going to stick with Valier, she is making me suspicous and i beleive that Menel voted Valier to save her from us, and so far it is working.

++Valier

[Nogrod]

I've tried to widen my mind and to narrow down the suspects... Contradiction man? No, just cool ways of the mind! Wide 'n' narrow, the same stuff brothers!" Nogrod was clearly going high now. He had gathered some speed, literally.

"Okay fellas'. Lemme speak my mind here.

As yesterDay, I have no reason whatsoever to vote for Maca or Boro here today. They contribute, they argue, they make the difference. They carry this discussion forwards and if one of them - or both - are wolves, we will catch them from their words. Silence and nonsense is a lot more harder to judge than open arguments. Adding to that, my hunch says they are innocent. Not a good argument, but a hunch nevertheless.

Then comes Kath and Lommy. Both I think contribute to our common cause, even though I disagree with some points made by Kath. Be they innocent, they are an asset to us and I would hate to see either of them go now by our own hands. Be they villains, their story will end sooner or later... we'll catch them from a slip or another.

YesterDay I thought Jenny and Valesse to be on the safe side too. Well, Jenny's not here any more but I must admit that Boro's points have made me look Valesse in a new light. Somehow I didn't notice that yesterDay."

Nogrod went to the desk and took an ale to help his mind come clearer. He breathed in deeply before continuing.

"Then it comes much more complicated. Gil and Sleepy are in a cast of their own. I had time to check my lorebooks after I took a nap. If Sleepy's forefathers had no special role, they have tended to ignore the whole discussion. So he might be innocent now too. And like Boro said, Gil's family-records are such that we are seeing nothing unusual here. Both of these guys have a playing style that annoys me deeply. It's not playing, not participating, not caring to make any effort for the common cause. It's parasitic behaviour, taking advantage of those who actually do something. But they maybe innocents and we can't waste too many of them. Just hope they wake up as the days go by..."

Nogrod took a long draught from his pint and scanned around the bar. Now who's left then...

"Then Valier. She's a descendant of the wonder-family. I don't think her input has been so great, but my lore-books tell of actual Wonders. Their family has been just outrageously good at pinning down the villains with pure hunches. I mean it beats all the statistics anyone could come up with. If she is anything near to her foremothers, let's give her a chance for a day or two at least?

Of Volo my lorebooks tell nothing. Someone noted quite accurately that he has been lot sharper toDay than yesterDay. A novice getting the hang of it or being briefed by a fellow-wolf last Night? Who knows. I'd bend to give him the benefit of doubt toDay, anyhow.

So I'm left with Diamond and Naria. Diamond's actions look pretty suspicious, as has been noted earlier; and there's not much in my mind right now about Naria. Sign of being a succesful wolf? My lorebook tells her family has accomplished that before just this way, being elusive enough to not gather attention.

I'll have to see to both of these before I make up my mind... Sorry I need to go to the lavatory!"

EDIT: X-posted with Gil - he seems to be making more sense toDay than my lorebooks reveal... I'm looking at him a bit more positively now.

[Sleepy Ranger]

With a glance outside Sleepy Ranger began to speak. "I reckon it's about time I left my vote. Sticking to my secretive style I shall once again vote for

++Macalaure

Why, you ask? Well, it's quite simple really." The ranger paused for a moment. "I'm just dandy with everyone going off making their own theories and thngies but I believe I shall stick to the person who I wish to know more about." He stopped again, taking a look at everyone. "If it makes no sense to you, which it probably won't, then you'll probably understand soon." He shot another look outside.

"I'm afraid I must leave you people now. I'll be near by and may pop in again a time or two. We shall see." With that Sleepy the Ranger left the premises.

[Thinlómien]

"Well, well, well... It's time to move from apple juice to beer, I say", Thinlómien murmured and took a pintful of beer.

"I must say that Boromir here is making a lot of sense here. He says his main suspects are Kath, Valesse and Di and I can but say the same. These three ladies are indeed a bit suspicious."

She took her first sip of beer that night and continued: "Of those three I suspect Diamond the least. She is like those with a gem-name always are - or so my lorebooks say. Her behaviour certainly alarms me a bit, but the behaviour of her ancestors has always somewhat made my ancestors wary, regardless of have the gem-people turned out innocent or guilty."

"Kath just makes me uneasy. Her summary - though it was helpful in a way - just didn't sit right with me. Like I said previously, she was kind of seeing wolves everywhere (though that might be a good thing too) and like some other people have mentioned, the coreography-thing was a bit vague and odd. And her vote for me had a quite weird and weak reasoning. Did she misunderstand me or twist my words intentionally, I don't know. I was not surprised of her suspecting me. (In fact I'm rather surprised I'm not generally suspected like most of the Grey Echoers* have been.) What I was talking about here "What is interesting here, is that all of the three of us - especially Nogrod and Boromir - seem to be enjoying a general position of trust in the village at the moment. I don't know yet what to think of this." was that I didn't (and don't) know what to make of someone being quite radically against general opinion. Sometimes these opposition-people are wolves that don't want to join bandwagons and want to seem more innocent by making cases of their own (always just agreeing with others has been generally regarded as suspicious in past centuries) or then they have been the only wise ones seeing the truth. And as I am no wolf (and don't believe that Noggie or Boro are wolves either) I'd rather be leaning to believe in the first theory about this kind of behaviour."

Thinlómien took another sip and after hesitating a bit, got herself applepie too. "Boromir the Daleman has a point about Valesse. Besides, as I have said before, her vote yesterday was quite weird and she has done nothing that'd make me see her vote in a different light."

"I would have however like to present a new suspect. His name is Sleepy Ranger. He sticks his vote for Macalaure for no sensible reason. He certainly has given no understandable reasons. This makes me think of a wolf who is unable to make up who would seem suspicious or a wolf who would like to be original. Nog the Weed-dealer said however If Sleepy's forefathers had no special role, they have tended to ignore the whole discussion. So he might be innocent now too. and I heartily agree. So Sleepy's not a main suspect of mine, but a suspect still."

Thinlómien turned to the freaky weed-dealer. "Nogrod, you said this about Volo:Of Volo my lorebooks tell nothing. Someone noted quite accurately that he has been lot sharper toDay than yesterDay. A novice getting the hang of it or being briefed by a fellow-wolf last Night? Who knows. I'd bend to give him the benefit of doubt toDay, anyhow.. I wouldn't take this as a good evidence against him. It is - my lorebooks tell me - much more easy to make sense on the second than the first day. I wouldn't see that as a reason to suspect anyone."

"Summa summarum:
I am inclined to trust Boromir, Nogrod and Macalaure for a while.
I have no clear opinion yet of (though should form one soon) Volo, Naria, Valier and Gil.
I am suspicious of Diamond and Sleepy.
And I wouldn't be really surprised if Kath or Valesse started to howl (though I can't say I'm expecting them to, I'm not sure of any of my suspects, after all)."

---
* Thinlómien means "grey echo" in Sindarin

[Volo]

Volo woke up on the floor of Wilwa's inn and said immediately "Hmm... There is a strange pattern going on:

Valier is against Diamond for a "reason" she isn't telling us... Valier has been quiet also otherwise. She hasn't told us much about her suspicions. This is rather strange, but I think Menel was trying to save himself by voting against Valier...

Gil has voted against Valier both days, also without a real reason. The same goes as for Valier.

As some of you have pointed out, both Valier and Gil come from quiet lineage...

But also Sleepy has voted two times without a greater reason, against Mac who I don't see that evil... Sleepy hasn't said much either, the only "trust"-point as I see has gone ironically enough to Mac... Sleepy, like Valier and Gil, hasn't said anything else that would seem of much sence.

I shall also note, that Jenny voted against Mac... I rather trust him, Boromir, Nogrod and Lommy seem to trust Mac too.
I have trust for Boromir and Nogrod, less for Lommy, all of them have made good points. Lommy has said things of both trust and distrust for Diamond, Boromir and Mac, but nothing really about Menel...

My own suspicion falls most on the hobbit ladies! Kath talking rather straight against the good people I trust here and Diamond seeming to agree with her. Also the first vote from Kath was rather random... Diamond of the two thinks that I'm a wolf! Kath hasn't made a clear opinion on me.

Valesse is strange too, Nogrod, Lommy and Boromir think her suspicious, but not Mac..."

Volo coughed a few times and slowly drank the last pint he had with him.

"So, a strange thought came to me just today. If we cut down the werewolves, we might be able to continue this dream, that would be fine with me. So, I'd rather vote some wolf and by that I meen hobbit! Be gone

++Diamond!"

With that Volo dropped on the floor just as suddenly as he stood up.

"Wake me up, if something happens..." he murmured.

EDIT: cross-posted with Lommy

[Boromir88]

'The time for me to vote is about to come.' Boromir says. 'Now the question becomes do I want to add another name to the list (which is the person I feel most nervous and wary about) or vote for one who's already been voted for and I have suspiciouns of, but am not necessarily as confident about?'

'Nogrod, you said this about Kath and Lommy
Be they innocent, they are an asset to us and I would hate to see either of them go now by our own hands. Be they villains, their story will end sooner or later... we'll catch them from a slip or another.
and I can agree with that as far as today goes.'

'The votes go as so...

Naria- 2
Macalaure- 1
Valier- 1
Lommy- 1
Diamond- 2

With Lommy, Nogrod, Valesse, Naria and myself left to vote yet.'

'From those who already have received votes, I find Diamond to be the most suspicious. But I am more worried that Valesse is a wolf...hmmm, I really don't want to put out another name especially if it will be a useless vote today, I will withhold my vote until later. I wish our inkeeper was here right now, and I mean the good one that is.'

[Nogrod]

"Okay brothers and sisters!" Nogrod called after receiving the second pint.

"I've been thinking about those I suspect. This is tricksy, I say. Looks genuine, feels foul, looks bad but feels right..." He took a draught to inspire his words.

"Whattye mean is Kath and Sleepy, and Gil, feel genuine even though they do not sound it. On the other hand Naria, Di and Valesse do not look so bad but feel foul... and Valier is still a mystery I'd like to see at least tomorrow. She's on the hunches of her family..."

Nogrod took a long draught and was looking for his weed as he met the denying gaze of Wilwa. Okay, I'll do it later.

"What I see now is the following.

Diamond has posted one post just calling others with names and claiming to suspect everyone. On the second post she gets more interesting. As Menel (now a known wolf) had accused her "Diamond, if you would please be so kind as to provide a reason for these accusation of yours," Menel remarked, "I would be grateful. In this sort of a situation, throwing out random accusations at first is generally the norm, but perhaps I should start concentrating on who could really be a werewolf."She goes on to answer: Diamond seemed to consider the question Menel put to her for a long while, appearing to be deep in thought. But this turned out false, as a tell tale snore escaped her.
So Menel, the reckless wolf, trying to contact a fellow who tries to avoid any contact - but still needs to say it aloud as to disassociate herself from him?

Then there was the "in-character"-vote for me. No problem there as such, we may vote whoever we wish, but who would like to hide her vote into the charachter if not the wolves?

But after kind of resigning with communication with Menel Day1 she opens the Day2 with: "One dead werewolf," she said. "Excellent. I shall now have to cast my mind back over everything he said Did she ever do that? Seemingly she is helping us with a promise to look after Menel's points, but does not deliver - or even apologise of not doing it. So the important thing is to look helpful but not do anything to cast a shadow over a fellow. Getting out of the net without leaving a trace?

And as Maca pointed out:It's weird that Menel commented on her fun accusations and told her to go wolf-hunting instead. Why would he ask this of an innocent? And how she reacted? By stating that she is a rebel and needs not to answer...

Looks somewhat bad, I daresay.

I've to drink a bit more before I say anything about Naria and Valesse... this talkin' dries one's throat, ya'know?"

[Valesse]

Valesse roused herself from her state of listening to address Boromir "Now, now... your evidence against me is, as I had stated earlier today, tarnishing... but I was amonishing him, not accusing. Please think back to my earlier statement dear Man-of-Dale."

"Yes, a poor move on my part... but if you recall Menel was already in a fair amount of trouble at that time, so I impore that you consider this: If it were that both Menel and I were wolves... do you consider me as thoughtless as to openly 'cue' his excuse later? Hommm!" the ent groaned in disappointment. "That would be foolishness and not the cunning of a wolf."

Reaching inside once again the Apple Fritter fritted the rest of Thinlomien's apple pie and placed it high in her branches with the other apples. "As for your- hmmm- request Thinlomien, I am unsure how I can explain my past vote for Naria any further. I wanted to hear more from her and did not, just as you had. Either I have seen the other client's relatives act similarly on the first days of such terrible times and somehow over looked the 'Nariatic" variety, or was just very single-minded yesterday... I just found her lack of addressing the situation suspicious."

"But for today, as it is shorter now than the shortest of days I recall my concern over Kath the halfling and her hastiness. More than a few of us have found faults in her summary. What is said ought to be said in it's fullest and truest form, or it does not bear mentioning... yes, that is what the Ents say. I am not in favor of such summaries with opinions interlaced with in them... it seems like foul trickery. Corruption." nearly fully roused Valesse switched windows, adjusting her pie. "Hmmm... these are harsh words for such a small creature. I apologize..."

Closing her giant eyes for a moment the entwife collected herself. "Perhaps the majority has something going about this Diamond character... but from what I can see from these windows she is waiting for one of us to create a fool-proof plan to execute, and is defensive when questioned about her inactivity..." Valesse chuckled oddly "Not that I haven't been defensive this entire time, either... but I try to keep a better mood about it. I consider her suspicious, but not like

++KATH

and her questionable summary-pinions."

(Edit) X-Posted with Nogrod.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod had emptied his ale and took yet another. Good for your health to have some vitamins...

Aloud he said: "I have tried to recollect what our wolf said yesterDay. Basically trying to see how he handled different people. Oh sorry, you other races too..." Nogrod stammered but soon retained his balance.

In #123 he said about Gil: "You're certainly somewhat odd, exhorting us all to go feast on pancakes when there's an investigation to be done. A wolf? Possbily, but possibly not. Being a crazy chef, though, who knows what you've been cooking lately. So pure nonsense. Might be covering a fellow, might be just bantering to hide his fangs...

In #136 he said about Di: "Diamond, if you would please be so kind as to provide a reason for these accusation of yours," Menel remarked, "I would be grateful. In this sort of a situation, throwing out random accusations at first is generally the norm, but perhaps I should start concentrating on who could really be a werewolf."Makes me wonder...

And this about Lommy & Naria: "Thinlómien, for one, is behaving somewhat strangely. After Naria mentioned that there hadn't been much discussion yet, which was probably only intended to get people talking, Thinlómien jumped on her statement as evidence that Naria could be a wolf. Her vote so early in the day looks pretty suspicious to me, though she may not have the time to come back later in the day. She is my prime suspect at this point, though if she turns out to be innocent, I'll be looking more closely at Naria."This kind of lifts my suspicions off from Lommy & Naria. As a known wolf he is clearly trying to make a case out of nothing (as a wolf he has known their identities and so would probably not endanger rthis kind of accusations over his fellows?)

In #153 he says: "My thoughts were simply that Naria's comment earlier did not appear too suspicious, as more dialogue generally is good for finding wolves and silence does not give us much to go on, regardless of who is silent. Now, while it is true that Naria's comment came early in the Day, her suggestion that we speak more is a good one and carries no apparent malice. Thinlomien appears suspicious to me for her attack on Naria in this case. The problem is that I suggested looking at Naria if Lommy turned out to be innocent, something that I honestly should not have said. I do not think Naria is a threat." Flip-flopping, yes, but also underlining the possibility of the innocence of the two (as we now know he was a wolf)?

That was followed by the following, kind of showing why Maca is innocent (he must have felt him a big threat as he left myself and Boro without any counter-comments) anyhowThe ranger turned to Nogrod, Macalaure, and Borormir88.

"You three seem to like accusing me of being a wolf as of late, and were fairly quick to post one after the other. Of the three of you, I think it's possible that at least one could be up to no good. Nogrod was the first, and as his suspicions were justifiable (and his mind wasn't exactly working quite right), I'm going to excuse him for now. Between Boromir and Macalaure, I find the latter more likely to be a wolf than the former."

"Macalaure, you appear somewhat suspicious by your own reasoning. You said,
Quote:
You say "if she turns out to be innocent"? Are you already plotting what to do after her death, even before she collected even one vote? Then you will go after Naria, you say, and expect us to accept this as logic, because it then will used to be the suspicion of a proven innocent. To me, this looks like a wolf laying the tracks to be able to excuse his involvement in the future lynching of no less than two innocents.
, which is somewhat believable, but if so, you incriminate yourself immediately afterward:
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I do not say Lommy and Naria are innocent, but Menel's words strike me as very suspicious.
One could say you are trying to cover your tracks with that last statement of yours. If my statement makes me a wolf, your statement does the same for you." And now I know why we three have been lumped together! Because of a known wolf did it!

His last, #167 says:"Really, my attacks on people's occupations were merely in jest, the ranger continued. "JennyHallu was simply a random choice based on the way my die rolled. And I don't suspect Naria of being a wolf, either. I'm as clueless as the rest of you here."

"At this point," said Menel, "my vote goes to

++Valier

She has posted just enough for us to know that she's around, but has said absolutely nothing of value. Sounds kind of wolfish to me.Eating one's own words is typical wolvery (in this case against Naria). But what can we read into the cases of Naria or Valier in here? Someone said his attack on Valier in the last moment was a way to make her look good. When he knew he was going to die, didhe try to save a fellow by suspecting her the first time? That's possible.

[Boromir88]

'Thank you for supplying those Nogrod,' Boromir smiled. 'certainly makes my job a lot easier. From his last post where he votes for Valier, I would be more inclined to believe Valier is not a wolf. Yes, it's possible he voted for Valier to try to throw suspicion away from a wolf-partner, but is it not equally possible that he did this, hoping we would see it as such and it would lead us to lynching an innocent? For now, Valier and her hunches are too valuable to lose at this early going, especially when I think there are others who look far more suspicious.'

'Well Valesse, you don't have my vote at least for another day. I don't see a reason to add in another name, as it would appear to be a waste. Of those who have been voted for, Diamond looks the most suspicious for reasons already mentioned.

++Diamond'

[Thinlómien]

"Now, I think, it is the time for me to cast my vote. Of those I suspect - Valesse, Kath, Diamond and Sleepy - Diamond is the only one I can vote so that it affects things. If I vote Sleepy or Valesse, they can't get the needed support to be lynched because there are only two votes left (plus my vote). I could vote Kath, but she would only get lynched if both Naria and Noggie voted her, and Noggie said he won't be voting her today. So, if I want to get one of my suspects lynched the only vote that can really affect thing is a vote for

++Diamond

though she'd be dead even without my vote unless both Noggie and Naria voted Naria - which doesn't sound probable."

She emptied the last pint of the evening. "For the memory of Diamond in case she's innocent."

She fixed her gaze to the another hobbit, Kath. "Tomorrow I will have a look at your actions, Lady Perian."

[Nogrod]

"Jah man! This odd-tongued hobbit will go! I've stated my reasons earlier..."

++ Diamond

Nogrod fell down from his bench at the desk and his tumbling down made quite a noise. With the help of other villagers he got back to his feet.

"Sorry guys... maybe just one too much... or one too little?"

[Diamond18]

Diamond broke out into a fit of giggles. "In case I'm innocent, eh?" she said to Lommy. "Well, I'll drink to that."

She helped herself to a draught of ale and slugged it down. "Well, I was hoping to have more time to play with my character, you know," she continued, slurring her speech a bit. "Going from tight laced ascetic to raving drunk... you're all going to miss out on me standing on the table with my hair down singing 'In Gadda Da Vida' but perhaps that is for the best."

"Uh, right. Let's see if I can make something of all this before I go. I still have a rather bad feeling about Naria. The slew of voters against me are going to look suspicious no matter what I say, of course, but since I haven't had time to study what they've said, I can't lend much help in that regard. Volo please explain yourself tomorrow, if only to satisfy my post-humous curiosity, what's all this about me agreeing with Kath? I recall commenting that I appreciated the effort of putting together a summary, but... I'm not sure how that turned into an alliance of some sort. We both found Naria suspicious but you'll note that I never said my suspicions were based on Kath's summary. I said I was going to think back on what Menel said, and I did, which lead to my suspicion of Naria."

"As my time is running short, I can only add that Valier worries me, too. Make her explain her vague bad feelings about me, that's my advice. Nogrod and Boro seem to be rather in control of the village, and I find Nogrod's insistence that people who talk sense should be trusted and let live to be foolhardy and suspicious. He assures you the werewolves will be caught if they are vocal, and so they should be let live until they make some big mistake... don't trust that, even if he is an innocent. It ain't true, I've seen vocal wolves conquer before."

Diamond downed another mug of ale and said, "What the Udun...." She shook her hair out and jumped up on the table, launching into the aforementioned anakronistic song, which probably more than anything sealed her death.

edited for gross typos due to haste....

[Glirdan]

Day 2 had been an eventful Day, full of discussion, accusations and (in two cases) deceit. After the shocking death (and disappearence) of JennyHallu, the villagers had quite a bit to discuss.

Finally, at the end of the Day, Wilwa gathered the villagers together once more to vote. But she decided to do it differently this time. "Instead of going into a booth, you will all say you're votes out loud."

The villagers took it in turn to say their votes. The one person who did not vote was Naria. In fact, she had been gone for most of the Day. The words that were written on the sheet that was left behind by Glirdan rang in their ears.

If you do not vote or post for two days you will meet an untimely death!!

Finally, all the votes were gathered together.

"And this is how the votes work out," Wilwa had said as she had been keeping track of them in her mind.

"Naria - 2
Diamond - 5
Lommy - 1
Valier - 1
Macalaure - 1
Kath - 1

This means that Diamond has been chosen to be the one lynched," she said solemnly.

The other villagers rounded on Diamond. "Let's tie her up quickly, before she can turn into a Werewolf!" Sleepy cried. They quickly gathered up rope and tied her up.

"Okay, now what do we do?" Valier asked.

"Hmmm, well....We could...uh...ummm..." Nogrod started.

"Let's just hang her," Kath suggested venomously. So they dragger her off to the gallows, which really wasn't a gallows but was in fact the sign hanging off of Volo's Inn. They removed the sign and tied the rope to the post sticking out of the building. They stood Diamond on a box.

"Any last words Wolf!?" Lommy said vindictively.

"Yes. I wish you luck in finding these dirty great brutes that have convinced you that I am one of them," and she held her head up high. Macalaure advanced and kicked the box out from under her. Diamond fell and with a sickening snap, her neck broke. The villagers watched patiently, but nothing happened. Diamond was, in fact, innocent.

The villagers walked away slowly. Boromir stayed behind to remove the body while muttering "I am glad that she wasn't a Wolf becaue poor Volo would have a Wolf hanging in front if she was," and walked to the edge of the village to burry the body of another innocent.

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

Dead

Glirdan (mod) - Mauled to death on Night 1
Meneltarmacil (wolf) - Squished into a pancake on Day 1
JennyHallu (innocent) - Killed and her body stolen on Night 2
Diamond (innocent) - Hanged on Day 2

Alive

Valesse
Gil
Valier
Naria
Nogrod
Boro
Sleepy Ranger
Lommy
Macalaure
Volo
Kath

Wolves start PMing. I need a name from them as well as the Seer and Ranger. Please PM them to both myself and Wilwa.

[Glirdan]

Valier had sat up late last Night reading, hoping to try and calm her nerves from the Day before. But it did nothing to ease her. She had mistakenly read the same line over and over again, to preoccupied to notice.

When she had finally dosed off, it was then that she heard a noise outside her house. It was the noise she had been dreading. She rose from her bed and went into her study where she kept a dagger in her desk drawer. She turned to go back into her room and screamed.

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

The villagers rose the next morning feeling quite depressed as they had killed one of their own the Day before. The took a quick head count and noticed that there was once again one less villager. They looked around at each other and figured out that it was Valier.

They slowly walked over to her house, dreading what they would find there. But when they arrived, there was nothing out of the ordinary. Her door was locked shut and all the windows were intact.

"Okay, I'm sick of this," Sleepy said angrily and he took the hilt of his sword and smashed a window. He climbed through, went to the front door and unlocked it to let the others in.

Once everyone was inside, they began to search the house. It didn't take them long to find where she was. They walked into her study and noticed a bloody mess right in the middle of the carpet, but there was no body, just the blood.

They looked around the study and found the dagger that she had kept in her desk. It was covered in blood.

Macalaure had been looking around the bookshelves when he let out a bloodcurdilng yell. There, right in front of him was Valier's head with deep gashes across them and her mouth open that plainly said she had been yelling in fright.

They looked along all the shelves and found the rest of her body pieces. All the villagers, with the exception of Boromir, ran out of the house in horror.

"Well, this is going to be fun," Boromir said sarcastically before going to work.

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

Dead

Glirdan (mod) - Mauled to death on Night 1
Meneltarmacil (wolf) - Squished into a pancake on Day 1
JennyHallu (innocent) - Killed and her body stolen on Night 2
Diamond (innocent) - Hanged on Day 2
Valier (innocent) - Killed, ripped to pieces and hidden in her study on Night 3

Alive

Valesse
Gil
Naria
Nogrod
Boro
Sleepy Ranger
Lommy
Macalaure
Volo
Kath

Okay, I'll let you all start posting now. Wolves stop PMing. Good luck.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod staggered to the square. His head was more than humming this morning. He was out of reach of any reason or shared feeling. He was inside his private world of fairies and pancakes. But he remembered a thing or two of the last Day

"So Valier? She might have given us the hunch man! Brothers... hear this
I believe I will keep my eyes upon, Diamond, Kath and Mac. They seem to me to be acting strange....Kath grasping at straws, Diamond acting odd and eating bread and water, and that there Macalaure....his reactions to others has raised my suspicions.... So she was wrong with Di - as many of us were...

But as I said yesterday, we should look at Kath more closely toDay. Also it's funny that Maca has not been suspected by anyone... Something wrong here? Surely I admit of trusting him this far, but just to note it here. As I tend to trust Boro as well, even toDay if nothing comes to make myself see the things differently...

Funny. Or somewhat horrifying. The wolves might be afraid of the ranger, naturally, but they have not killed any of the ones they kind of should be afraid of as openly arguing persons. Are they so secure of themselves or are they just the persons we would think them to kill - or to let live because this kind of questioning would come about anyhow and then we would make the kill ourselves?

And also, what is the reason behind their kills? Have Valier or Jenny said something too alarming or were they just easy and clean kills? Or have Boro or Maca (or myself) claimed one or two of them too openly so that they have not dared to kill the one?

And how long will we carry these one-liner guys along? Not that they are the most suspect, but even one of them as a wolf would be a disaster and the death of us all...

Needs to see, needs to see..." Nogrod said and headed to the bar in where he passed off after a shot.

[Naria]

Even the hardened warrior couldn't keep her stomach from turning at the sight of Valier's demise. She immediately ran out of the house and could no longer hold back the vomit that had risen in her throat. Naria wiped her mouth and turned to the others..."I have formed an opinion on all of you, some are more definite in my mind...some are not so definite." She cleared her throat and began...

Naria started off with the people that she didn't have a clear picture of. "Valesse, I cannot pin down as of yet....you seemed to have a pretty sturdy position on me and then turn around and apologized yesterDay, I am not sure what to make of this. Naria went on, "Gil...well what can I say, Gil is Gil and I never know what to make of his 'one-liner' posts, but probably innocent. "The last one is Kath...I am not really getting any 'bad' vibes off of her, but that is exactly what worries me...she keeps her position pretty much neutral throughout and it has bitten ordo's on the behinds before. I will continue to be wary of her.

Naria turned and talked to the ones that she had more questions for and more troublesome feelings of. "Nogrod, I realize that you are trying to stay 'in character', but I am not sure what you are doing. My lorebooks tell me that you are a person that takes the bull by the horns per se, but you are not...you are interested in keeping the talkers around but other than that there isn't much in the way of leadership from you. Infact, you are quite the opposite. She went on to the next person, Boro, all I can say to you is....what are you talking about?! You seem to want to make a point, but by the end of your posts it just comes across as a reiteration of your last posts. Even in the post that one is reading there is reiterating yourself over and over...you just reword the paragraph to make it look different. If you have a point, I implore you toDay to make it clearer. Sleepy, you seem to be hiding something and your thoughts aren't exactly clear to me. At least your voting has stayed consistent, alas though that is another reason for me to not know what to make of you. Next on the list was Lommy. Naria continued, "I know that you are an Elf and feel the need to be trusting, but I can't help wonder why. Naria once again referred to her lorebooks, "You are not so trusting in other villages that I have read, especially on Day two when no one should be trusting of anyone. You my pointy eared friend are being uncomfortably trusting and therefore I will keep my eye on you. Mac was the next one to be scrutinized, "First off...I find you to be one of my top suspects mainly for your banterings where you seem to know a little too much on how werewolved woud/should act f.ex. "having fun" when they kill. I mean sure they might(and most likely do),but who in Arda would come right out and say that...that post sounds like you are bragging and trying to see if you can get away with it. Naria paused to think for a moment and went on, "Volo, you seem to have an uncanny ability to know how each player should be acting even though this would be your first stay with a village of this sort. You also seem to know what to say at the right time...almost like you are being guided. Maybe you aren't, but it just seems strange that you know so much about certain villagers and how they would act.

Naria had come to the end of her list and decided to leave the villagers with their thoughts. She really needed something to drink after that, so she meandered over to the inn and asked Wilwa for a nice tall cold pint of ale.

[Boromir88]

'Well, yesterday didn't go as well as the day before, but I'm rather confident our fortunes will change to day. Why?' Boromir questioned, looking at everyone. 'It is a great fortune to have our Seer and our Ranger still alive, we shall definitely be rewarded because of their skill in keeping hidden.'

Boromir turned his attention to Valesse, 'My dear Valesse, be prepared, for the searcher of death will come down on thee today.'

Then he addressed Volo, 'Based on your replies yesterday, you've won me over. If you're a wolf, you deserve the win for completely fooling me and pulling one over. But, you've pretty much have won me over and convinced me of your innocence, because of the manner of your posts yesterday. I hope you can offer some more thought and insight.'

EDIT:

Cross-posted with Naria.

[Boromir88]

Boro, all I can say to you is....what are you talking about?!

'I really have no idea what you are trying to point out.' Boromir stood confused. 'Of course I repeat myself, as I can show you where probably everyone repeats themselves, and as people repeat what I say, and I repeat what other's say and so on. Of course I repeat myself (there I repeated myself again), I really don't see a point. Most of the time I repeat myself to explain what I meant to those who ask me, and to make sure people understand clearly what I'm saying. For example, with the Kath summary thing-a-majig, people were wondering why I found so suspicious of it, so I went back and explained more, which means...yep I would have to repeat myself. I really don't see what you're trying to point out (oh there I repeated myself again)."

[Gil-Galad]

wow... there goes my suspicons... do you know that the werewolves have either saved me or condemned me, because if i wanted to vote valier i wouldn't have killed her as a werewolf... very paradoxing eh?

[Naria]

Naria was not at all impressed byBoro's sarcasm. "What do you mean...what do I mean? I will not, like you, repeat myself...I think I made myself clear enough. Your reaction, however does solidify many unanswered queries I had."

She turned to Gil next, "Ahh not true you cwazy chef....that may be just what a furry fiend might want to convey to the rest of us. Why would one vote for someone and that very night kill her off....hmmm why indeed."

Naria was getting tired and was soon to head to her quarters for a nap. She would sit for awhile longer and wait for more villagers to appear.

[Thinlómien]

As Thinlómien entered Wilwa's inn, her attention focused immediately at Naria. "Woah", she said, "where's all this sudden discussing come from? Our haradian warrior here's almost as bad as the grey echoers tend to be." This seemed to both amuse and delight the elf. She smiled at the battle-hardened warrior, but that did not remove or replace the jokingly set question from her eyes.

Thinlómien started her day again with apple juice and this time she took rye bread too. "Our talkative member of the Nariatic family here speaks the truth. She said:

She turned to Gil next, "Ahh not true you cwazy chef....that may be just what a furry fiend might want to convey to the rest of us. Why would one vote for someone and that very night kill her off....hmmm why indeed." A strange comment from master Gil indeed. I'm starting to be more suspicious of him."

"I agree with the weed-dealer Noggie too... I mean, we must take a better look at Jenny's actions and we must see what Valier said. The words of the nightly victims may turn out even more important than the dwords from the daily discussions."

"Naria, you accuse me of trusting too much. However, there's no evil without good, so there are no real suspects if there are not some one trusts to some degree too. I have emphasised in my mind - and tried to convey to you my fellow villagers too - that I don't really and wholeheartedly trust Boro, Noggie and Mac, but am inclined to trust them - or leave them be - for a while because of the Menel case." Thinlómien took a sip from her glass of juice. "However, you pointing that out got me thinking about it. This far I've remembered and thought that they all played a very essential part in lynching Menel. Now, I would like to see that through again and try to spot are they all really importantly contributing to the dúnadan-wolf's lynch."

"Alongside with that analysis, you may except a Kath-analysis from me, as I promised yesterday."

[Macalaure]

Macalaure stood outside the inn deep in thought while smoking a pipe of Eastmansweed and listening to what was being said. He heard Nogrod say "Also it's funny that Maca has not been suspected by anyone..." and wondered how he could have accumulated three votes if that was the case. Finally he got up and went inside, because he had some words for the others.

He recalled yesterday's words of Sleepy Ranger
"Indeed your vote for me was my main reason for suspecting you. I didn't expect a solid theory for it, maybe just a reason. You have to see, all I really know for sure is that I am innocent. So if somebody suspects me with no or few reason, this puts me on alert. I don't think I'm over-reacting and I surely don't want to intimidate you. My clan has a (short) history of being very defensive, just ask the dwarven tribe of Kuru. Then you said you dislike my tone. Hmmm, I apologise if it has been too rude or offensive - it's just the way we people from the East are like.
By the way, your status on my list went down from 'highly suspicious' to 'could be anything'."

Having said this, Macalaure turned back to the urgent matters.

"It saddens my heart that Valier has left us. Especially since I was going to declare her very suspicious today. Oh, well...

Nogrod said about Menel: "he must have felt him (that is me) a big threat as he left myself and Boro without any counter-comments".
Menel maybe just thought that it wouldn't be wise to counter the three of us at once, and thought that I would be easier to counter than you and Boro.

Talking of Nogrod, he starts to slightly worry me:

- He hasn't answered to the last words of Diamond.
- He said about Valier: "So she was wrong with Di - as many of us were..." That's it?
- He said: "Or have Boro or Maca (or myself) claimed one or two of them too openly so that they have not dared to kill the one?" I wondered about this, too. But you miss the possibility that Boro or Mac or yourself are, despite all their talking, waay off the track. Then why bother killing them? Let the three sway the vote and lynch the innocents they think guilty.
Or maybe you or Boro - the Lord Melkor have mercy on us if both - are a wolf, and therefore very satisfied with the current mutual trust.

As I said, he only slightly worries me. Let's see what he answers.

My chief suspects at the moment are Naria and Valesse (yep, I'm about to change my opinion on the latter). I will take a closer look at the two as the day progresses."

[Sleepy Ranger]

Sleepy Ranger took in a deep breath. Much had happened, much he did not like but he would live on. It was the way of things. "Well Macalaure, I shall come clean. I have suspected you mainly because of your tone in the start after that I took a bit of a stronger stance in the matter. Once earlier too, something similar had occured. The other party picked up on a small matter as this and came rather strongly. Those were ill times though. Maybe it isn't the same in this case so I'll let it rest for now."

He next turned his attention to Nogrod. "So you say my family history tells you that I'm lazy and uninterested. Well, I believe you're a bit mistaken. If you look deeper in you'll notice I begin to get more and more active as things further on. I tend to prefer a slow start. Speaking of which, you're going of an isolated incident. Do not trust history, but do not forget it either." He turned his attention away from Nogrod, did he suspect him? Maybe a bit... truth be said there were only three people currently that did not look all that right to him.

Ah well, maybe he would have a chance to elaborate later. For now there was something else he had to do.

[Boromir88]

'I'm glad you caught the sarcasm, Naria.' Boromir chuckled. 'It's hard to catch that stuff. Go ahead and do whatever you like with your queries, but I have seen more factual evidence, if you want to call it such.'

'I can assure you Mac, I will even bet on my own life that both Nogrod and I are not wolves. It's just not scientifically possible, there's two wolves left, I'm not one, therefor both of us can't be wolves.'

Edit:

Cross-posted with Sleepy

[Sleepy Ranger]

After a bit of thought the Ranger suddenly spoke up. "I'd just like to say that I'm not too trustful of the the people who have placed themselves as a reason that the wolves killed who they did. Namely, Gil-Galad and Nogrod." He paused and took a pipe out of his pouch, lighting it calmly. "As per Gil-Galad the death of Valier has placed him in a very paradoxical position. To me this just seems to be an attempt to confuse people and mayhap overlook a detail or two that could make the difference."

Puffing his pipe a bit he continued. "As for Nogrod. He has questioned the wolves motives and brought up the names of Boromir88, Macalaure and Nogrod." A bit of pause and a puff more. "Now in my opinion any of those four could be a wolf. I reckon a closer look into these four is required." He paused for a bit as he thought about the four. "Out of those four I personally don't believe Boromir88 to be all that suspicious though something about him just screams wolf. I seem to be deaf to it though. Regardless, I'm very highly suspicious of Gil-Galad and Nogrod. In fact I think I have found a possible link between them. As for Macalaure, I could see him as either."

The Ranger then retreated to a secluded corner. He wished to spend some time smoking and thinking things over. Things would end for better or the worse but he hoped they would end soon and he hoped he would be there to see it end.

[Gil-Galad]

Gil sighed

"obviously i have been put here to confuse myself and everybody else, so best be eating our carrots and either listen to me or not, i am merely trying to state that look around the box, my original suspicons were for Valier, and they grew when Menel, our first werewolf, used her dying vote on her, as an attempt to save her from being voted off the next night and release the suspiscion, and now sleepy, you think that me and Nogrod are in ties together? well that is clearly wrong. and i shall prove so by voting for Nogrod, it may either help me or lead to my downfall."

++Nogrod

[Macalaure]

Macalaure looked up in disbelief when hearing Gil-Galad speak.

"Disregarding whether Nogrod is guilty or not, you cast your vote with the sole purpose of disproving the improbable case of you and Nogrod being wolves? That is not what the votes are for! They're for lynching wolves!
And Sleepy only called you both suspicious (and me and Boro), where did he say you're in tie?"

[Thinlómien]

Boromir was the first one to accuse him, but jokingly. Though there was still a concern of Menel's playing style. (121) A fellow wolf might do this, but I think that'd be unprobable.

Nogrod was the second to accuse Menel. His accusations were more severe: . . . "Trying to avoid leaving any tracks, contradiction and flip-flopping. Bad signs man." . . .
Declaring your suspicion random you clear your trail, if you say you can have a semi-educated guess and still use the dice you contradict yourself and if you then declare the earlier things just a whim or trad and proclaim to use reason instead, you flip-flop... You see?" (139) I would find it strange if a fellow wolf launched this reasoned attaked on Menel when he was already (though a bit jokingly) accused by Boro.

Mac was the last to join the "campaign". He held suspicious Menel saying "Thinlómien's my prime suspect, but if she turns out innocent, I'll have a look at Naria". (140) Odd, if a fellow wolf would thus even more increase the pressure on Menel at this phase.

Boromir asked Menel to explain himself and continuec suspecting him, though he suspected Di too. (149) Comment same as above.

Mac was however the fist one to vote Menel, the first one to move from words to deds. (155) Now would a fellow wolf vote Menel seeing how much suspicion towards him was in the air? Doesn't sound probable. We shouldn't however discount the possibility of a Macawolf, who counted on there being a bigger movement against another villager. Or maybe Macawolf realised he had really accused only Menel and saw voting him as the only believable thing for him to do. Based on this I wouldn't think the existence of a Macawolf as a probable thing, but certainly as a possibility.

A bit later Nogrod named Menel his prime suspect. (158)

Boro was the second to vote Menel. (163) He made Menel not just a lynch candidate. A serious business for a fellow wolf. Based on this and his early and consistent attack on Menel, I don't believe Boro is a wolf, unless the wolves agred to sacrifice one of their own, which would be unprobable.

Noggie was the third and the last to vote Menel when there were only three votes left. One a known innocent (Jenny), Menel, Valesse and Naria. (165) As far as I recall, Naria, Valesse and Jenny hadn't suspected Menel. So maybe a Noggiewolf believed there would be enough votes for someone else in that bunch; Menel was killed by one vote difference, after all. Risky, this vote of wolf-Noggie's, sure, but certainly fruiful this far. Or maybe then either Naria or Valesse is a wolf and Noggie's too, and he expected the third wolf and Menel to save Menel. I don't know. However, recalling all these events I don't think he is a wolf, yet I don't deny the possibility.

So: Maca might maybe be a wolf. Nogrod probably isn't. I'm very surprised if Boro is one."

Thinlómien emptied her cup and sighed. "I must go to the horses soon, and probably don't have time for the Kath-analysis. Which is a pity. I'm probably going to vote one of my yesterday's suspects, that is Kath, Valesse or even a weird case, Sleepy."

EDIT: cross er.... spoke with Mac

[Nogrod]

Nogrod heard himself mentioned several times through his sleep and slowly became conscious.

Let's see what he answers
- He hasn't answered to the last words of Diamond.Sorry brother but what might you mean by that? That she disagreed with my view of letting the vocal people stay rather than the quiet ones - if there is no better case against anyone in particular? She has a right to disagree and I have a right to my opinion. I don't see anything to answer here as such. Or do you mean her point that vocal wolves have conquered sometime? Yes I know. That is a possibility even here, surely. I just don't see what there is to particularly "answer" in that. Quiet wolves have also conquered...

- He said about Valier: "So she was wrong with Di - as many of us were..." That's it?Well, I said that Valier had suspected Kath, you and Di. Of these we know she was wrong with Di, but about you and Kath we don't know. You must know her family's reputation... So that might suggest we take a look at those of whom she suspected and of whom we don't know. That's it.

- He said: "Or have Boro or Maca (or myself) claimed one or two of them too openly so that they have not dared to kill the one?" I wondered about this, too. But you miss the possibility that Boro or Mac or yourself are, despite all their talking, waay off the track. Then why bother killing them? Let the three sway the vote and lynch the innocents they think guilty.That's perfectly sensible idea. I think we both miss many possibilities here. They might also just wish to sit back and relax waiting for the people here to start suspecting our longevity. Or they might have been forced to let us live this long because they have been afraid of the ranger possibly covering some of us? Or they might have whatever grand and diabolical plan up in their sleeves...

Or maybe you or Boro - the Lord Melkor have mercy on us if both - are a wolf, and therefore very satisfied with the current mutual trust.Quite so. A wolf should feel good with the trust. Trustin you and Boro somewhat, I'm knowledgeable of that danger. But I have not said I trust you two blindly. In WW you just can't afford that anyhow. On the other hand, one can't actually suspect everyone equally either.

now sleepy, you think that me and Nogrod are in ties together? well that is clearly wrong. and i shall prove so by voting for NogrodNogrod turned around to meet the dwarf. "You have an interesting way of proving things, master dwarf. I'm just curious: how do you think that proves your point? You really have been acting strangely toDay Gil."

Then he made his way to the desk and ordered a pint.

EDIT: X-posted with Maca & Lommy

[Thinlómien]

"Oh, excuse and forgive me, Valesse did suspect Menel a bit." (146)

EDIT:xed with Noggie

[Thinlómien]

"I can hear the horses neighing! Something horrible must have happened. I must go now!" Thinlómien cried out, bolting up.

"Oh, almost forgot.

++Kath

I did not have time for analysis, but I quickly skimmed rthrough what she had said. For reasoning, see my previous comments about her, I still think the same way. Oh, and I noticed a certain edginess in her responses that worries me."

Thinlómien ran to the door. "Bye, friends and non-friends!" she shouted before disappering.

[Volo]

This day wasn't as great for Volo. He did wake up in he's house, but really tired and depressed. He didn't even have time eat something, when there were shouts outside. Everybody were commanded out and there Volo stood outside. Diamond was killed, and yes, he was the killer. Volo had killed an innocent! His yesterday's triumph turned into misery. He was already heading back home, when everybody rushed to Valier's house. There were shouts that rained on Volo's head like hammers. The window to Valier's house was broken and Volo also followed inside. To see something so horrible that he fell on the ground and for some time just sat there. When he regained some of his strength, he crawled to his inn and took something stronger than beer. By midday he was totally drunk and digging himself a grave. Volo muttered about how he was guilty and that now they'd kill him.

In the evening Volo was getting back to sence, but as anybody who heared him knew, not to sence enough. "This isn't a dream anymore, those werewolves better leave, or kill me!" He tossed the spade towards Diamond's house and walked into Wilwa's inn.

After listening to what was said, and after some asking about earlier talk, Volo said

"Gil, does this make sence? If Valier hadn't died, Nogrod would have been far more suspicious. As he voted last, and by that killed Menel, he didn't act really logically, assuming he's a werewolf. If Valier hadn't been killed by those beasts, there could have been a Menel-Nogrod-Valier trio. As Menel was already nearly dead, the agreement could have been made, that the wolves vote against themselves, meaning Menel would vote Valier to make her innocent and Nogrod would vote Menel, meaning that the one who was going to be killed would die but the other two would get out clean. As this isn't the case, this theory doesn't work.

Now, Gil, I'm not against you, yet. And now, after Diamond proving to be innocent, I suspect our three big guys, that is Nogrod, Mac and Boro more. Boromir, maybe, the least, I hope not for his trusting words. Mac most, he did seem strange especially on the first day.

Lommy on the other hand, is stranger, but I wouldn't accuse her now.

In league could be Valesse and Kath, who have both voted against each other, but in situations not so dangerous, they both have seemed suspicious for a longer time by some of us.

Naria is somewhat a mystery to me, she didn't vote yesterday, but today has said many things.

Hmm... This Sleepy-guy here, of him I won't say much yet, exept that he has been accusing only the big three, Nogrod, Mac and Boro... Oh, and Gil."

Volo seemed to run out of words and quietly sat down.

"I might not vote today, I shall see if that is possible..."


cross-posted with Mac, Nogrod and Lommy

[Nogrod]

"I need to get some fresh air but will be back later. I try to elaborate on the following then more.

I trust Boro, Maca and Lommy to be innocent, at least for now.

I have my suspicions of Kath and Valesse.

I'm totally baffled by Gil.

I'm not sure what to think of Sleepy, Naria or Volo."

With that he emptied the pint and went out.

[Boromir88]

'Of course, Volo,' Boromir said, 'the death of Diamond was an unfortunate event, but our fortunes will change today, for we still have our two greatest assets.'

'I will save later today my thoughts on everyone, but for now, like I said Valesse, be prepared...I hope you are.'

'I think everyone knows why I grew suspicious of Valesse (and at the risk of being accused of 'repeating myself' I will just provide a handy link (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=488543&postcount=200) to the post. In answer to that Valesse responded in post 208:
"Yes, a poor move on my part... but if you recall Menel was already in a fair amount of trouble at that time, so I impore that you consider this: If it were that both Menel and I were wolves... do you consider me as thoughtless as to openly 'cue' his excuse later? Hommm!" the ent groaned in disappointment. "That would be foolishness and not the cunning of a wolf."
Sounds like you're trying to force me to think it was foolish and not cunning. I don't think it as foolish, it's often a ploy wolves use, that sometimes goes unnoticed (unless you are suggesting that my so many great grand sire was a foolish wolf?) Which, I don't think so as it was a tactic that had him survive to the very end and destroy the entire village, so it isn't really a foolish tactic at all. And your insistance that it would be foolish makes you look even more guilty in mine own eyes, lady Valesse. Yes, Menel had grown in suspiciouns bat at this time I don't think his lynching was necessary a known, so it could be a safe move for another fellow wolf to make.'

'And a little note on Sleepy. Volo said this...
Hmm... This Sleepy-guy here, of him I won't say much yet, exept that he has been accusing only the big three, Nogrod, Mac and Boro... Oh, and Gil.
My own take is that I wouldn't make too much wolfishness out of this. It is only natural for a villager to step out and question where the 'loud mouths' are leading this village, especially after they have just lynched an innocent. Hopefully that will change. But I admire Master Sleepy for coming out and questioning the loudmouths, I expect that to happen, if he be an innocent villager concerned where we're going in all this. But that's just my input.'

[Macalaure]

"Nogrod, I meant that it was funny that the soon-to-be-lynched innocent Diamond addressed you in her last words and you didn't say anything about it. As you said, vocal wolves have conquered, silent wolves have conquered. Still you think that the silent ones are more worth looking at. A convenient point for you, if you are a wolf, which I still think is unlikely. And the "So she was wrong with Di - as many of us were..." sounded suspiciously like the classic wolvish "Oh no, I voted an innocent, but alas, so did many".

Besides, I have looked again over Valesse's words. I can see Boro's points now. She does not say much, and what she says is all not that convincing and often hidden in other matters."

[Valesse]

Valesse had been waiting for Boromir's case against her, though was ultimately suprised at how short it actually was. Nonetheless the entwife, after fritting away a few apple cider barrels from the inn and decorating her branches, delivered her response.

"Forcing you to believe that it was a foolish move, you say? Let us have a look at this then..." moving away from the inn, Valesse leaned against another building. She might as well get comfortable, here. "My experiances with werewolves is very limited and none of my ancestors have been one of their kind. To purposely play such a lycanthrope trick would be rather ambitious of me, then, I'd say. Brrhhmm! Now if your next arguement is that 'my fellow wolves instructed me' the first night, then I must mention that there is no way to prove such a thing. Just as there is no way to disprove it, other than arguing the unpredicatablity of positions on the first day."

The fir inspected one of her fallen orniments carefully. "I must also state something that rather bothers me about your arguement: It is quite blanketing. Even though it does make sense, Daleman, tragically it would also make sense with any manner of creature in my position... flawed but fair or foul. The innocent and the guilty would both look like wolves caught in a deadly net.

Taking a long breath the entwife paused "Dear Boromir, this is not an attack on you, but more a description of my thoughts. As dedicated as you are against me I feel that you honestly have enough of your own proof to do so. I can understand how my replies might not reach certain standards of yours but please do consider that Westron is not my first language and that you are considerably more versed in these situations than I am. Hrrrmm!"

"Now to another part of your arguement:"
I don't think his lynching was necessary a known
"Yes, true, it was mid day, but he was really the only villager with a -real- case against him, and on the first day, amid the random votes and hunches, surely you can come to figure that it would be a detrimental. That is what I meant by 'fair amount of trouble'."

Valesse blinked and leaned toward the window "Hidden is rather a dark term... my speech is, perhaps, confusing Macalaure... but that is why I am an ent. As for not saying much, I speak more often than others, but that is still no reason to proclaim myself innocent. If you mean that I do not speak much about my reasons that is because I would consider it a form of persuation. As I see it my duty is to find a werewolf here, and so I listen to other's theories before acting on my own observations or in the case of the first day hmmm (in character) hunches. Only when I see something that I feel is truely incriminating will I debate it with other villagers. My first experiance with a werewolf went in such a way."

"Oh... but I do try to explain my votes. Yes, that is standard practice, though." The fir nodded "I will be back soon, I must visit the little entling's room."

[Naria]

Naria found herself to be quite busy after she had awoken from her nap. Mac was her main suspect and while listening to the arguments...he still was, maybe even more so. "I have to take my leave now fellow villagers and have to make my vote."

++Macalaure

[Sleepy Ranger]

"I must depart now but before I do I shall vote." He paused as he looked at everyone present. "I shall vote

++ Gil-Galad

Since he has seemed to be a bit edgy lately and out of my four top suspects I believe he is the one I shall go with. Boromir88 seems innocent to me, Macalaur I am unsure of and Nogrod, though suspicious I would rather keep him alive for now." And with that the ranger was on his way.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod came back in as the night was drawing closer. He went straight to the desk and had a beer.

"I've been thinkin 'bout these..." He said slowly. "Man this is hard." He staggered to the chair he had sat on earlier and then came forwards.

"Firstly, I have gone through Kath's words. There are things that make me weary there. But I'm not sure if they are enough. My initial impression of her suspiciousness was greater than my look on her now.

What troubles me?

Seeing wolvery everywhere. In a sense it's good as we need to note even small hints here. But suspecting half the village in the same breath is actually not very helpful. Indeed it's just what wolves would like to do: look helpful without actually being helpful.

"The careful choreography" -stuff still bothers me too. That kind of accusations are easy to throw around and they look good. I just haven't seen any explanation of that one. Surely, if Kath is a wolf (and Lommy & Boro also innocents) it would be perfectly reasonable to cast that kind of doubt over us three. A ranger may deny the nightly kill, so voting is a better way to get rid of the loudmouths.

"Oh, and it's nice to see you taking a more active role. While I don't hold with the theory that quiet means evil, I seem to recall you voting rather suddenly and randomly yesterday, so more input would be lovely."Firstly this has an air of absurdity in it if you recall Kath's own actions on Day1. (Surely, no one can be blamed of having other things to do than discuss here our fate: that is not my point here) But what makes this a bit shady, is that it seems like a point made to generate suspicion. Adding Kath's earlier summary that did just the same and much more powerfully, it kind of looks like she is trying every possibility, with reasons or without to see whether a ball would start to roll - or bandwagon to move. That is wolvish. For them it's basically the same who of the innocents gets kicked out so anything would go - surely they might have preferences too, but still.

So there seems to be a lot of actions that look wolvish to me. But her last response yesterDay for instance was reasonable enough and felt somewhat right.

I don't know... I have to go through some other candidates still."

[Volo]

In the evening, Volo didn't feel well at all.

"I'm going soon, but I feel I must vote, not another innocent I hope... But like Boromir well stated, Valesse has been rather strange. Sure, she is a tree, or how were they called... Ent? But she has been talking a lot, of which not much has made sence to me. Ah, I'll leave for now. Don't die. And, yes, my vote goes to

++Valesse"

Volo somehow left the inn.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod opened his eyes after a while.

“I and I ‘ve been thinkin about this Valesse-ent too. She doesn’t look very convincing either.

Her first post. Boro has pointed out the fact that her insistence of the foolishness of that deed from a fellow wolf is at least questionable. But what bothers me too, is the way she talked about Menel in it.
Shaking herself back into focus Valesse went on: "This Valier and Naria are suspect, and another this Menel perhaps, too?

"Menel, on the other branch, is some what bold, a little hasty... though not entirely brash. I do not believe that dice are a means to catching werewolves, but seeing as she has not cast a vote, it could have only been a sick joke in order to get others talking." Frowning even more, Valesse narrowed her giant eyes "And if this was the case, I should hope that your sense of humor improves."

One should note, that there was considerably clear case on Menel already that time – and still saying about Menel “perhaps suspected” as to play it down?

Funny, that later (#237) she even accepts that Menel was in trouble at the time...
"Yes, true, it was mid day, but he was really the only villager with a -real- case against him, and on the first day, amid the random votes and hunches, surely you can come to figure that it would be a detrimental.

And in the end (of the first piece) trying to carefully explain for Menel? Not too openly but enough as to either actually help him or then just to be able to use this “I wouldn’t be so stupid as to defend a fellow lycanthrope” –argument.

Also her last defences are quite odd...
"My experiances with werewolves is very limited and none of my ancestors have been one of their kind. To purposely play such a lycanthrope trick would be rather ambitious of me, then, I'd say. Brrhhmm! Now if your next arguement is that 'my fellow wolves instructed me' the first night, then I must mention that there is no way to prove such a thing. Just as there is no way to disprove it, other than arguing the unpredicatablity of positions on the first day."
First is kinda out of boundaries anyhow and the second somewhat nonsensical: there is always the possibility of a bluff and a double bluff, so there are very few things that can be proved in WW but posthumously.”

Nogrod pulled a little pill from his pocket and swallowed it with some beer he still had in his pint. "So, so... what my lorebooks tell me, is that almost anyone can be made to look bad when one concentrates - even the most innocent may be made to look bad assuming s/he is bluffing, double-bluffing, triple-bluffing...

Nevertheless I see these two ladies most suspicious of those I have really looked at right now and could think of voting either of them. But before, I'll have to do some more thinking. I've a bad feeling that I've not seen all the things I should have seen. You know that nasty nagging feeling that says to you that something is not quite right? If there is a wolf totally outside our search, as Maca kind of suggested it might be, then we might be in trouble unless the Seer has a nose to look at places we others do not."

X-talked with Volo

[Macalaure]

Macalaure was sitting in his dark corner of the room listening to what was being said. Naria's vote made him raise an eyebrow and he collected his thought on this very suspect of his. Then he got up.

"First off, I have to apologise to Naria. I voted her very hastily yesterday and didn't come up with an explanation today. This was not kind of me and I will catch up on this now, though it is late. I was in a hurry to vote and I had three main suspects for reasons I gave before: Diamond18, Sleepy Ranger and Naria herself. The decision for Naria was quick and not much more than a hunch.

Today, Di is no more and Sleepy looks better, and though I have a new suspect in Valesse, you remain up there. The words you spoke today even increased my suspicion of you."

With that, Macalaure took a deep breath, and then continued.

"Naria seems to think everybody suspicious, which isn't after all better than finding nobody suspicious. In fact, it's even worse. Pointing in all directions causes more confusion than not pointing at all. Interestingly, Valesse, Gil-Galad and Kath are least suspicious to you. One of these is my second best suspect, and the other two I don't feel too well about. Hmm...

The reason you give for suspecting me is... suspect, especially since it seems to also be this reason why I'm even your chief suspect. At least you don't give anything else. You said:"

Macalaure browsed in his notes and read aloud.

"First off...I find you to be one of my top suspects mainly for your banterings where you seem to know a little too much on how werewolved woud/should act f.ex. "having fun" when they kill. I mean sure they might(and most likely do),but who in Arda would come right out and say that...that post sounds like you are bragging and trying to see if you can get away with it.Now, since when is it considered taboo to speculate on the wolves motivations? You even concede that my point is probably right. Maybe something came over a different way than I intended, it is usually not my way to brag about things.

As I already said, I have nothing against suspicions on me, if there's a good reason behind it. If this truly is your reason, then I don't think it is a good one.

I am probably going to vote for you today, again. I will wait a little more to see what the others will do."

And with these words he went back to his corner. And he waited.

[Kath]

Boro, I’m not sure I ever did put Mac into my suspicion list. To begin with I felt that he could possibly have been involved in some wolf on wolf thing, but then decided that his comments were more innocent sounding. I apologise if I didn’t make that clear, but I find it odd that you picked up on him, as he was mentioned in passing more than specifically. I’ve just noticed you did explain that, but I’ll leave this in anyway.

As to having reasoning behind killing Menel, why can’t a wolf have reasoning? Indeed had a wolf decided to sacrifice a team member to keep suspicion from falling on them they would need good and clear reasoning or their vote would be more seriously looked at.

This ‘plan’ isn’t something I think is concrete. I simply suggested that perhaps some people might be working together, and that if that was the case, some things would make sense. It was all very circumstantial and speculative. My careful choreographing comment pertained to the idea that perhaps the wolves had planned to kill Menel off. It seems unlikely I’ll grant you but it is possible. Yes, it would put them at a disadvantage in terms of numbers, but a possible advantage in terms of a lack of suspicion later. Boro you say ‘do I really think you’d be that stupid?’ and the answer is no. However, you might be that clever. Bluffing has always had it’s place in these villages.

Lommy, I’m not sure what you meant by me being ‘so radically against general opinion’ when I became suspicious of you. My reasoning against you was not as strong as it could have been but I had the most reason to vote for you than anyone else at the time, and I certainly didn’t twist your words. I’m really not sure where you got that, would you mind explaining?

Valesse you voted for me yesterday for my summary being hasty. Now, my votes both have been, but my summary was not. It was short, yes, but it wasn’t rushed. I have learnt that writing a paragraph on every post is never appreciated (not least by me) but I got the points across that I wished to, albeit in a way that seemed to confuse some people.

As to toDay there has been a lot of arguing going on. This spat between Naria and Boro was a bit silly, as I didn’t really see a need for Boro to even answer to what Naria said. I find myself agreeing with Naria on many of the things she has said though, so I might be biased toward her at the moment.

I dislike Boro saying that he is not a wolf as though it were fact. If he is innocent then to him, yes it is a fact, but not to anyone else, and we have no reason to trust his word above anyone else’s right now.

Lommy’s analysis of what happened with Menel pretty much went the opposite way to how I saw the day, and I’m not sure whether that makes her more suspicious or less. She clears Nogrod and Boro and brings up some suspicion on Mac. Her analysis however, was mainly based on votes, something which I often disregard, so I’m still unsure. Oh, and Lommy, I have edginess in my responses?

Nogrod, I know that my comment to Naria might have seemed out of place, but I made no excuses for my behaviour. I voted early because I had not and could be around, had no suspicions and hadn’t heard a word anyone had said. I voted because I was not sure if I would be able to the next Day, and didn’t want to be killed off for something so avoidable as not voting. Naria though said that she would watch the whole day, and seemingly did, and yet couldn’t think of a single reason to vote for someone by the end of the Day. As it happens, that comment was not supposed to raise suspicion but to show gratefulness that she had started to take a more active role, because history has shown us that her family is very effective at times.

Now, that’s dealing with my suspects from yesterDay. ToDay the only person I wish to add to that is Volo. Reading through it seems that he has spoken a lot about history and lorebooks, but as I recall his family haven’t been seen in these parts before. It is possible that he could have gone and read through all the old lorebooks but I’m not sure that is the case, and it is also possible that he has another source of information for these facts, such as fellow wolves.

ToDay though my vote goes to

++BOROMIR

It is possible that I am reacting to his tone and the way he says things, but he is the most suspicious to my mind. His posts are somehow superior and from what I can see he has barely posted toDay, with what he has said being argumentative in nature rather than helpful. To be perfectly honest what I would really like is absolute proof of his role, and bar a dream we have no way of getting that other than lynching.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod opened his left eye, then his right. Kath's word had poured into his head as he had been flying through his thoughts.

"Good remainder about Volo, Kath. As I said earlier, he has been one of those I haven't had time to think more thoroughly. He surely seems to know lots of things nowadays, unlike on Day1. A mate to give the lectures during the Nights might be a good explanation indeed?"

Slowly he got up from the chair to get another pint. "But I would say you have a flaw in your reasoning on Boromir. Just think of the chances of Boro being checked by the Seer. Would he then go and kill off one of his mates on Day1 and really go for the disadvantage, as his role would be revealed anyhow before the end, indeed pretty soon if the wolves won't find our seer? That would be foolhardy and too risky. Someone not believing to be dreamt of might go for the trick, but Boro surely doesn't fit the description... So if you ask me why I tend to trust him, that's one of the main reasons."

Nogrod took a long draught of the pint he had received and looked around the others still sitting in the bar.

"Ya'know brothers and sisters. Six votes and six different candidates. Shall we make it one each or what is the meaning?"

[Boromir88]

'Kath,' Boromir said, 'I don't expect anyone to guarantee my innocence, though there is another way of knowning my innocence besides lynching me, and that is wait until the end of this living hell. And I also don't expect anyone to trust me, I'm just throwing out ideas and possibilities, if you decide to listen and agree so be it, if not so be it. But, you won't be gain any knowledge by lynching me, besides the fact I'm an innocent villager. Take it or leave it, it's all up to you. Sorry if you expect more from me, but I call it as I see it, and somedays I have more to offer than others. Recently I've mostly been concentrating on Valesse, as if what I've interpretted is right, than she is a wolf.'


Boromir then turned to Valesse, 'You said this Valesse.'
Now if your next arguement is that 'my fellow wolves instructed me' the first night, then I must mention that there is no way to prove such a thing. Just as there is no way to disprove it, other than arguing the unpredicatablity of positions on the first day
I wasn't attempting to argue that, nor was I planning to argue that you planned this scenario with wolf buddies. But, it seems here you are suggesting that's what you did. Or at least that's a general plan, with my experience of wolves, is that they like to try to stay as far apart as possible, yet deflect suspicion away from themselves or their partners.

'You say that my argument is more of a 'blanket' I could be mistaking an innocent in this case. In which case I disagree, there is a difference between how the two interact with eachother. As an ordinary innocent, you don't know who is guilty and who isn't. Your guess is as good as any other ordinary villager. If you find someone coming under wolf scrutiny, that you don't particularly think is a wolf, you make an argument as far as why you don't think that way, why you don't think that particular person under scrutiny is wolfish.'

'However, in the wolves case, when they try to deflect suspicion away from one of their own that is being suspected, they defend his/her actions. There is a difference, between defending their actions, and explaining why you don't believe that person is a wolf. What I mean by defending their actions, and is used by the wolves is the 'That's true, but...' phrase. It's like you're agreeing with the individuals doing the scrutinizing, but trying to defelct their suspicions away from your buddy. I'll show you what I mean a little more clearly:

I do not believe that dice are a means to catching werewolves, but seeing as she has not cast a vote, it could have only been a sick joke in order to get others talking."

'See you defended the actions of Menel. You say 'I don't agree with his way of catching wolves, but we shouldn't make too much out of it.' It definitely looks like you are purposefully trying to get suspicion away from Menel, you don't agree with what he's done, but it's probably just him joking. Where an innocent I don't think takes that same approach if they defend someone they don't see as guilty. They stick more with how the person's manner is, or how the person has voted, or whether what they say at least makes sense. They don't defend the actions (or what the person does).'

If that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, it may be a bit confuddled. take this for example, right now I don't find Nogrod all that wolfish looking. I'm not sure that he's innocent, but he doesn't look wolfish. You see I don't defend what Nogrod does, but I just don't think a wolf would act the way he is acting right now, and I could use voting records or is what he says making sense to reach that conflusion, but I don't defend what he decides to do. It's up to Nogrod to defend his own actions if someone decides to start questioning him. Just like it's up to me to defend my own actions if someone starts suspecting me.'

'With that said, I'm convinced...

++Valesse'

Edit:

Cross-posted with Nogrod

[wilwarin538]

Wilwa hadn't really been paying attention to anything that happened that day, she was still thinking about everything that had already happened. But she finally noticed Naria sitting there waiting for a pint. Sadly, by the time she had it ready Naria had left. Well I wasn't of much use today,she thought.

(15 minutes left for those who didn't know)

[Macalaure]

"Well, voting for Naria now does not make terrible lot of sense. I hoped someone would go for her, but you can't have anything. My other two suspects right now are Valesse and Gil-Galad. I am voting for Gil-Galad, because if I am wrong, then an innocent Gil-Galad is less of a loss than an innocent Valesse. He's just not giving a lot of input.

++Gil-Galad."

[Valesse]

"Ironically what you said made perfect sense to me, finally, which might explain why all of my reasons did not make a bit of it." the tree chuckled "How amusing."

"First, I'm going to reply to Kath, though, before I forget what she said. I was not under the impression that your summary was hasty, if that is what I said it was only because it's in my idiom. hmmhmm something some of us are forgetting. I was under the impression that your summary was skewed... specifically- because it's only natural to notice what is yours- the bit about me. What you had summarized was completely backwards, and therefore I believe it would only be logical for someone to find that behavior suspicious."

"Now, Daleman." Valesse turned back to Boromir "We are not similar. We have very different personalities, and therefore react and respond differently. Mind you consider diction is not a constant variable in all villagers."

The ent was now quite tired "Now since I have been doing a great deal of defending myself" she eyed Boromir, somewhat amused "I have done very little work in figuring who is what. I will either be dead by tonight or tomorrow, anyways, considering the village's opinion of me, but I do ask that I not be made into a floor. That said I'm forced because of time to vote once more for

++ KATH."

[Nogrod]

Nogrod came back from the lavatory and took his pint from the desk, nodding to Wilva.

"Well... I guess we are reaching an agreement here? Kath's speech made me a bit more relaxed with her - even though I think some of her arguments are not good. So that would leave Valesse to be my choice toDay. I've argued the case already and think that Botromir has some good points on her as well.

But however we succeed toDay, I really suggest the village should look at Volo a bit more closely tomorrow to see whether this increase in knowledge is real or only an impression (that it is at least on my side right now)."

Nogrod draught what was left of his pint.

++ Valesse

He turned to Maca and said to him. "I agree with you about the innocence stuff between Gil and Valesse, but Gil looks more confused than guilty. Those would have been overtly bold moves from a wolf, I mean, the things he said and did toDay. Not like people from his family would do. So there is suspicion here at the first place. Hopefully we get it right this time."

EDIT: X-talked with Valesse