WWJ XIII: 'Til Death Do We LARP

[Volo]

If CoD does not seem wolfish, why 'work' on him? I think we are fairly pressed to find whoever IS the wolf, we cannot possibly prove anyone to be innocent now that our Seer is dead, so we should try to find the guilty ones, not make cases for someone else's innocence.

You do have to "work" on someone to see if he/she is a wolf... And CoD was the person I chose to be the first.
Today is the first day I mind if I die or not, but don't you think that my last post yesterday would have been a good move from a wolf, who seem to be staying in the shadows otherwise... Ok, me noting that first does make it sound wolfish... :rolleyes:

[Nogrod]

Borolysis Part II

About Naria, his fellow wolf he said nothing before Day3 as Durelin questioned him on leaving her out from his analysis (he had a good explanation to it, though, but only said he would come to her in time...). After that “the Rune-theory” was proposed by Lommy. He went fiercly against it and tried to sway us to look otherwise eg. defended Naria without never kind of making any straight comments about her. In the end he somewhat half-heartedly said he would vote Naria before CoD, but would stick to Farael (or seemingly almost anyone else).

Nota bene. Another one he actually said nothing about was Valier. Probably (I’m not 100% sure but this is near the only thing at least – I’ll check it if I have time for it) the only thing on Valier was in #153 where he defended Valier’s reasoning concerning the Cobbler-Rune -theory.

What I mean here?

Farael he was attacking all the time, relentlessly. CoD he defended with the same vigour. Lommy too was in his posts every once in a while, going like an elevator up and down in suspicion. I’m bent to consider all three innocent as Boro is well aware of the fact that those who are talked of end up in the gallows more often than those we do not speak.

Volo he was also very quiet about. He did note that Volo was scary and baffling him. Somehow he also put Volo in the middle of the Rune-theory discussion but as soon drew him away from it. In the end he started voicing growing concern of him (even though with quite vague reasons).

What to make of it?

On the light of Boro’s posting (see: on the basis of his posting – there are other considerations too and I will go to them as soon as I can)

I’m pretty sure Farael is innocent, just because how relentlessly Boro attacked him.

Of the others I’m not so sure any more.

Lommy is hard to judge based on Boro’s posting but because she came up with the idea that in the end killed Naria and we can read Boro’s frustration with it, I might tend to believe her innocent too.

CoD I would think innocent rather than a baddie as he could be Boro’s innocent pal here. So Boro buying trust with someone who retaliates for every distrust? But this could actually be a great bluff too (a wolf highly defending another would be unheard of and nicely cleaning the other if one dies!).

Volo might be a wolf as he was considerably little mentioned in his posts and the mild suspicions were just enough to look earnest but not too damning. His last growing concern might have been a trick (as he saw that Naria was in trouble and he needed to distance himself from them both) or then not. I think there is no good evidence either way on Volo here.

Based on Boro’s posting Valier looks the most suspicious with similar pattern by Naria. Being silent about. No one can be sure though that Boro would treate both his fellows in villainy the same way...

But as I said, this according to Boro’s posting. I’ll go to other things soon...

[Volo]

CoD

Day1

#3 His famous seerish in character talk.

#13 In character defending Durelin. Suggests to keep an eye on Farael and Durelin.

#37 Says in character that he’s innocent. Suspects Lommy.

#40 Good reasoning why he can’t be a cobbler, and he’s not. Suspects Naria, Nogrod, Durelin, Farael and Lommy.

#42 Tells that he was just going to keep an eye on Farael and Durelin, did he? Tells that he’s attacked just for being in character.

#49 Tells that his first post was just an in character post. Leaves Durelin and Farael because he doesn’t find anything needed saying about them.

#53 Once again tells that his first post was in character. Is suspicious of Naria, Lommy, Durelin and Farael. Says that he had reason to defend Durelin. Doesn’t suspect Durelin (?). Votes Lommy for voting CoD.

Day2

#81 Isn’t suspicious of Lommy anymore, because Lommy isn’t suspicious of CoD. Is suspicious of Durelin, because she suspects CoD.

#99 Agrees with Boromir’s reasonings about Gurthang being suspicious. The same thing about Lommy not being suspicious. Doesn’t find enough information about Naria and Farael to say anything.

#111 Doesn’t like Naria’s reasonless vote for him. Wants to vote either Gurthang or Naria.

#118 Votes Naria because she voted him without reason.

Day3

#134 Isn’t a cobbler. Suspects Naria because Rune voted her.

#137 Suspects Naria even more. Sees a pattern of killing the quiet.

#149 Calls Farael’s long CoD research ridiculous (I rather liked it). Is even more sure about lynching Naria.

#158 CoD makes this one rather interesting (to me): he tells that he’s playing by feeling, yes that doesn’t have much sense if we want to win, but that’s how an innocent not really caring would do. I don’t know if CoD cares but thins makes him feel innocent to me.

#170 Has to leave so votes Naria

#183 ”Go ahead and lynch me. But nothing under my rock will you find.”

Day4

#190 Wants to look at Farael, though Valier does present a tempting choise.

#192 Agrees with Nogrod about Boromir’s strange vote for Farael. Says that killing the quiet players would reveal the wolves too much (and is right with me being the last one of those).

#214 Votes known wolf Boromir and says that he won’t be putting anymore defenses on himself.

#218 Agrees with Valier that he won’t be defending himself because he can’t, nobody will believe.

#220 Either CoD is a really great wolf, he is innocent, proven by this post. Now this is how I feel, he neither had any hopes of surviving so far.

#229 Farael suspects CoD. CoD: ” You have two options: Take me at my word, and go on trying to find the last wolf, or lynch me and waste more time. The latter, of course, will spell your own doom.”

So:

This all CoD suspecting started from a really little mistake he made, that was a reason to be lynched on day one, but otherwise he doesn't seem wolf. He has been defending himself mostly and playing with feeling, not really caring if he died. He has sure said more than me, and maybe I say so about CoD as that is how I felt myself. I have thought about CoD being a wolf too for not having time for better thoughts, but now I think we both are innocent in a similar way.

Thanks for the Borolysis Nogrod. There is not a single time mentioned the word Valier in it and that is suspicious, of course Boromir is a skilled player and can bluff well, but... I'll read of Valier next.

EDIT: xd with Nogrod, that's what I'm also (trying to) saying

[Volo]

Valier

Day1

#21 (I like your profession, not that I’d want to meet a person like that), Anyway: Valier’s first post with in character stuff and telling that she’ll have little time that day. (The word ”Valier” wasn’t mentioned a single time on that page after that one post)

#64 Ok, in the end of page two she is there to say that she is there…

#72 Votes late for Diamond, because of her strange vote (which wasn’t actually that strange) and because Valier can’t deside whom to vote from CoD and Anguirel. A rather wolfish move.

#74 ”It would not be fair for me to vote to kill one of the two when I haven't been around all day. i don't want to be the one looked at tomorrow because I got someone killed and they may have been inoccent.” And so she wasted a vote, or not really, others can still change their votes…

Day2 (page3)

#96 Tells that her vote was mostly random. Mostly suspects CoD, Gurthang, Volo and Nogrod (of whom two are known innocents and two unknown innocents), also suspects Farael, Naria and Rune (a unknown, a wolf and a cobbler, but she doesn’t make reasons with those). Doesn’t suspect too much: Lommy, Boro and Diamond. Doesn’t know about Durelin. So she divided her fellow wolves into the differen categories (not making reasons about Naria whom she ”suspected”.


more later... I'm off to watch Monty Python and talk with a friend I haven't seen for long. I'll be back.

[Valier]

I do find it odd that Volo said he had to go but then after I posted my post he suddenly has time to do analysis, but oh wait, he has to go and watch a movie....*sigh* His behavior is getting more and more odd as the day goes by.

[Valier]

After reading Noggie's analysis I begin to see where he is coming from. Your post makes sense to me today in all this confusion. I still find it hard to catch a wolf by looking at who past wolves interacted with or didn't. Wolves will attack anyone if it serves their plans, so I think there is a good chance that a wolf would defend or openly attack a fellow wolf. Nothing to me seems too bold for a wolf to do.

I see how my inactivity with Boro could be considered fishy, but I have had little interaction with quite a few people this game, thats how it sometimes is in a big game in the beginning. I tend to concentrated on a group of people at one time(I know my bad) getting a grasp on a large group at once is too hard, I take them as they come into my attention, or lack there of. I tend to be a person who goes with feelings, so me not interacting with a wolf, is not really that far out. I really thought that Naria was an Ordo, just sick...boy was I wrong! :rolleyes: I had a bit of interaction with her, so I don't see how looking at who the wolves talked to or didn't proves guilty. I think words and reactions are the most telling if interpreted correct.

[Nogrod]

I've looked through Valier's posting and even if there are things in there that would lead one to suspect her, there seems to be more of those that point towards her innocence.

Valier's point about not interacting with everyone or mentioning all others makes sense too. And as I said, the fact that Boro said almost nothing about Valier is no evidence on her guilt.

I'll come up with a few points and a wild new idea in a moment. (This in just if someone is to vote very soon as I wouldn't like to see Valier get votes just because I've said that looking at Boro's posting there's an air of suspicion around her.)

[Volo]

His behavior is getting more and more odd as the day goes by.

Well what did I do now? I do have things that I prefer or have to prefer over WW... :/

But continuing now with hmm... Farael or Lommy if Nogrod is taking care of Valier. It is true that Boromir ignoring her, doesn't make Valier a wolf, but just trying to make some ideas.

And just to note, two votes on some player gives the wolf an opportunity to save himself/herself for now. Don't count on it though, it may well be that our wolf has already voted.

[Farael]

Well, it is very likely I'll be back before the deadline, but it is not certain, so I shall cast my vote.

Of all the remaining unknowns, Volo seems to be the most logical choice. CoD is still suspicious in my eyes, but right now it is a bit too late to get rid of a villager just to clear the air. I see no case against Valier other than her little participation... but then, I haven't been able to post a lot either.

Thus I shall say

++Volo and may the Valar help us find that remaining wolf.

[Volo]

Oh great :rolleyes:, maybe you would at least put a reason with my name. Two innocents will die before next day starts if this continues...

Analyzing Lommy

[Nogrod]

Okay. I'm only an innocent, not one who knows things... as you know. So if there is to be a toMorrow (hopefully not!), remember I may be wrong here. I have been very wrong many times in this game.

But as it looks to me now.

Farael is probably innocent. His rant with Boro is very hard to interpret as a wolf-on-wolf one. Too dangerous, too noisy. I mean, someone could have taken a point or two from their arguments and start a wagon to lynch him.

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CoD has also an unwolvish air about him just because he plays in the style he plays and gets almost everyone annoyed by it. A wolf would have to be really a daring one to risk that kind of play, standing up over all the village. Jsut look at the amount of suspicion he has gathered around him.

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Valier does pose a problem to me.

First of all I must agree with Durelin here. When Valier refused to break the tie between CoD and Ang (effectually on that point letting CoD die) I thought it very suspicious washing-hands, but with reread she seems innocent enough.

In #96 she suspects most of us with points (and softenings with many) but not Boro. Then she says there is a no clue -group consisting of Farael, Rune and Naria... I don't know what to make of it.

After Naria informed us that she was sick she came to talk on her behalf in #112. (OOC I know Naria in RL and she is really truly vomity flu sick, so please donot hold that against her or vote for her just for this reason.) and later in #177 I don't want to just Naria slide, but I hate to vote for someone who hasn't been around to defend themselves. That's not saying that she isn't a wolf, just that I think the possibility of CoD being a wolf is higher at the moment.A good friend might stand up like this but a sneaky wolf might go this way too (there could be defences if she was later accused of this).

Unlike Durelin, I find Valier's speculation about Rune's death quite reasonable. Just lately she has also sounded good. But surely the last remaining wolf would like to do that?

I'm somewhat unsure about her. I feel her innocent but am afraid she's the last one.

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Lommy I think to be most probably innocent, but then again, there is a fantastic plot that could be under everything here.

After Naria informed us that she was sick there came the Night. Now if she told the other wolves that she can't participate, so why not to use that to their advantage? So Boro and Lommy came up with this idea: Lommy makes a theory pointing at Naria and Boro is against it. That way they could distance themselves from each other nicely, adding some mild suspicion over each other to spice it a bit. Remember, they were sitting steady in the lead here and Boro was in the Fea-game too and was thence ready to take a risk of being the one of them who might be spotted. And with that trust our Lommywolf will sail through to win the game... :cool:

Nice conspiration-theory, but as Di said earlier, we tend to come up with more complex theories about wolves schemings as they actually go with. I'm not sure whether I (or anyone else) should give a second thought to that but I felt I had to say it.

Otherwise I see Lommy to have been both reasonable and helpful villager and I tend to believe her innocent. Were she the last wolf I must say it would almost be an honour to lose to her.

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Volo I just can't read even now... I think I never had the skills to it. My lorebooks just tell me that last time he was a wolf and in a tight spot he tended to avoid playing but was available immediately when suspicions started to form. I can see some similarities with the pattern here.


I'll be here before the end but have to take a break for a while (and check also what's going oin in Fea's game).

[Volo]

Oh, true Nogrod, maybe I'm a wolf after all, didn't think like that earlier. But hey seriously, I have reasons why I was away all week and now am not, if you want I can tell them all and give contacts where you can check. Alibi I've got!

[Valier]

Well I must go, I have some hair butchering to attend to(RL) I still think that CoD is really suspicious, but Volo warrents my vote today. His behavior does have an odd pattern as I have seen in the lorebooks, I agree with Farael's point today. Volo is the logical choice...May we kill us a Wolf and not have to go through this again tomorrow.

++Volo

[Nogrod]

But hey seriously, I have reasons why I was away all week and now am not, if you want I can tell them all and give contacts where you can check. Alibi I've got! :D Don't worry, I won't be calling them anyways. And truly what I said was: Volo I just can't read even now... I think I never had the skills to it.But surely you also see that a wolf would like to be there if there is a chance he's being killed? :rolleyes:

But as I said, I can't read you.

I have to think about this.

EDIT: X'd with Valier... That was it, then... :(

Double EDIT: No oit wasn't, I had wrong idea about the votes cast...

[Volo]

Seems like I'm out, but I'll finish my posts anyway.

Nogrod, do you by any chance know any teachers that would teach me writing understandably?

[Nogrod]

No you're not.

You have three votes, there are four left.

[Volo]

No there aren't, Durelin's out! So we have you, me, Lommy, CoD, Valier and Farael left. We two will be out today, so you might want to give last advise.

[Nogrod]

Lommy --> Volo (Volo1)
Farael --> Volo (Volo2)
Valier --> Volo (Volo3)

Not voted yet: CoD, Nogrod, Volo.

Darn. Dead you are. Sorry, my bad. I just checked Jenny's last list and only counted the bolded alive (there was Durelin in that group too).

[Nogrod]

I'll try to say something before I'll draw to my death-sleep... unless you're the last wolf... You might confess now if you are. :)

[Volo]

I confess! Wait... Do I? Confess being a wolf? No way! I ain't a wolf. They can (but won't) change their votes still...

[CaptainofDespair]

Somehow I don't think you'll get that confession, Nogrod. ;)

I hesistate to vote, hoping we don't kill an innocent, but...

++Volo

[Volo]

It does discourage you writing summaries knowing that you'll be lynched when at the same time you could do something moderately fun... I'll probably finish this Lommy-summary and then just go. (Just make sure that when you kill me you make it as cruelly as possible.) Who wants to join me with my last supper?

[Volo]

Sorry for flooding, but I really suggest Nogrod to use his time to think of other probabilities if (strangely :rolleyes: ) you find that the last wolf isn't me.

[Nogrod]

Volo: if you're innocent you would like to use your time to help us other villagers (well, from toMorrow morning to me also, them) to make the best of toMorrow. If you know you're innocent you would bring in all you've got to help your fellows and die as a hero who possibly helped others!

But if you are a lycanthrope, then I can see your frustration. Why to defend oneself with arduos summaries if you're already dead? :D

[Nogrod]

... and why to confess if someone might still change their minds, if for example I would come up with a strong alternative case... :D

[Volo]

Dear friends,

I have made a summary of Lommy's posts and in the end may you come to the right conclusion:

Lommy

Day1

#18 First post with in character stuff. The first to suspect CoD, not a very good point, but I followed it… Anyway now we know that CoD didn’t try defending Durelin with that post.

#19 ”Am I really the only one alive? *sigh* I must vote quite soon and there's a pitiful amount of comments to conclude anything of. Must I really go with my feeble suspicion of CoD?” Gets no backup so far.

#22 Agrees with Anguirel that CoD might have meant his post ”defending” Durelin as a joke, but still votes him (CoD). Tells that the vote had bad reasoning, but day one… Leaves

Day2

#78 Says that Ang and Rikea would have been a helf being alive. Notices Boromir’s wolfish appology. Sees CoD quite innocent because of his calmness. Says about keeping an eye on Valier.

#91 Doesn’t find Durelin particulary suspicious. Doesn’t like Gurthang’s vote for Durelin (wrong again). Doesn’t like Diamond’s suspicion of Nogrod (here I somewhat find reason in Diamond’s actions) because Rikae died (but it’s true that this doesn’t have much sense).

#92 ”About Gurthang: I got my "bad feeling" pinned: it's that he always votes early when the vote is safe and then says "I might be back" or as today, comes back. I don't like this kind of behaviour at all. It gives him a "reason" to slip away from the discussion whenever he wants since he's already voted.” I don’t like suspicion for such things, I for one never try to ”escape conversations”, you might believe this when you find out that I am innocent. So, bad reasoning!

#106 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=497271&postcount=106) I don’t like her suspicion on Boromir, it’s wolfish. ”He is somewhat suspicions but really not too suspisious and not worth noticing”, well you know what I mean. Others make more or less sense to me.

#107 Votes Gurthang, ok, I admit that Gurthang was really suspicios to me too when I read day2 during the next night. I don’t fully like her reasoning (about escaping conversations), but Gurthang did say things of little importance now and then. Keeps an eye on CoD.

Day3

#138 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=497411&postcount=138) This speaks of Lommy’s innocense, she mentiones the reason Rune was lynched and probably got it right.

#155 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=497411&postcount=155) Defends herself. Seems like she is talking sense, but to post only a self-defence is something strange from Lommy.

#161 Jokes about Nogrod and Boromir being the remaining wolves, it seems that she doesn’t suspect either of them too much here, Boromir somewhat, but not too straightforward.

#164 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=497411&postcount=164) Sense I see. But Lommy is such a great WW player that I’d probably see sense in everything even a wolf-Lommy would write. What does this by the way mean: ”So, if I was to guess who the remaining wolves are, I'd say Naria, Boro and CoD or Volo, but I'm far from assured.” You know the last wolf? Yourself maybe? Well, anyway: from her suspicious list everybody is innocent as I see it, so it’s either Valier, Farael or Lommy herself that you have to go after.

#165 Clears her thoughts, nothing interesting.

#171 Her wits tell her to vote Naria and her guts tell her not to vote Naria… hmm. Comments my longest post so far (the Nogrod accusing angstfull post, that now is proved as rubbish).

#175 Votes Nariawolf, speaks for Lommy’s innocense, but anything can happen.

Day4

#200 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=497411&postcount=200) Still suspects CoD (and me). Well, tomorrow she’ll either be happy or will find that she made a mistake. Desides to check everybody’s relations with Boromir and Naria (I am suspicious with that, and so is Valier).

#203 Votes known wolf Boromir

#205 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=497411&postcount=205) No, I don’t agree with her about CoD… I might be wrong, but I hope I’m not. She makes me look like I eat a shaman’s breakfast each day, with lots of mushrooms. (HEY, I’M LYNCHED :D)

Day5

#238 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=497411&postcount=238) What else :rolleyes:. (She won’t able to poison your minds on day6, so be happy, or then she’s just trying to escape conversation (nah, not really, I’m not sure if she’s a wolf))

#239 Just a post about CoD not writing anything in the morning like usually, doesn’t mean anything. Somehow her flooding makes her look either very nervous (just like me being lynched right now…), or then she’s happy of high possibilities of winning as a wolf (umm… that’s also being nervous). But she wrote this while writing the Boromir and Naria relationship post.

#240 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=497411&postcount=240) Her analysis of Boromir’s and Naria’s relations with other players. Speaks well for her innocense, she wouldn’t waste too much time on things like this being wolf, I think…

#241 At last finds CoD innocent… Thinks of Farael as an innocent also (those two I tend to agree with). Thinks that either me or Valier is guilty, me more than Valier. (Valier being better staying innocent as a wolf than me as an ordo. Hey, I would really like to learn writing well!)

#242 (guess who? Valier? No… Nogrod? No… Well who then? Lommy! You should get the additional title of ”spammer wolf”) Complains about others being absent, I’d also complain (even if I were absent myself). Votes me and starts a fatal bandwagon. Ok, I do seem more suspicious than Valier… :(

#243 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=497411&postcount=243) (oh, another one… didn’t remember this one coming. Got seven bullets in your six shooter, that’s a skill!) and I posted straight after that…


So:

Some things just scream wolf, but most is so reasonable, that I see Valier far more wolf than the others. It feels like she was the first to suspect Naria and Boromir, but her gut told her not to vote them too swiftly... That seems rather wolfish, but she then voted them in the end. #164 does seem strange with "the remaining wolves" all wolves still being around and well.

Otherwise Lommy has been talking lots of sense and has helped the village so far. If she's a wolf and wins, I won't be too sad for you who lose next turn, she is a great wolf if she is one.

But, I find ++Valier scarier, I haven't gone through her posts as carefully, but I'd probably vote for her tomorrow if I were alive. Please look through her posts!

Yours sincerely,
Volo the Ordo.

PS: CoD will get my phones. Farael will get my balrog-suit. Give my weapons to charity.

[CaptainofDespair]

Oh, don't worry, Volo! I'll be sure to go through Valier quite thoroughly!

[Nogrod]

If Volo turns out to be innocent, please note the following.

Farael I haven't been able to look so closely. My judgement on him being innocent rests mainly on Boromir being so aggressively on him all the time.

CoD I think innocent mainly bacause of the opposite reasons: Boro's over-abundant trust seems just too much for a wolf-on-wolf -thing (and if it is one, it sure merits to conquer!). My case on his "seer-hint"-thing does not seem so good at this state of the game.

With Valier you should look at least the points I made in my last post where I though she posed a problem to me. There seems to be some actually suspicious things but also some innocentish ones. She could draw the innocentish ones even as a wolf but might also make suspicious moves being innocent.

And Lommy then. I'm inclined to believe her innocent, but... She will really be a master wolf if she is one. She was possibly a bit too confident with Naria (Valier noted this also), but if she just sticked with the most reasonable explanation, it could also make sense. Were she a wolf, it would really be one of the most daring and complicated plots made up by her and Boro ever seen in WW-history. But as I said, we easily interpret wolves too complicatedly. But do not pass the option as non-existing either.

Watch closely the reactions of this evening (like CoD's last one...). And also who did not react, who carefully backed off and the likes.

Good luck fellows! Sorry I couldn't be of more help... Bring the beast down: it's one of three to all of you and only one mudding the waters...

You can do it!

[Farael]

I'm extremely unsettled here... Volo has been very through today, and I just have this weird feeling... sadly, this is the last minute of the day, and there is no time to do any other thing than lynch him.

Well, Volo if you are an ordo, my apologies... if not, rott in the void!!!

[JennyHallu]

Creepy quiet day, but it's over now. Volo's dead, and innocent.

Wolf, please include Folwren in your kill choice tonight. I feel terrible about it, but no narrations are going to get written until after we move. Folwren will be handling the opening and closing of the next day for me, bless her!

[Folwren]

The group of campers slowly assembled. The sun was low on the horizon. Volo, looking towards the west, could see the red sun and the spreading red light through the trees and branches of the wood. The trees were dark against the red light.

“My blood will be as innocent as that light,” he said, nodding towards the sunset. “You take a step towards your own deaths if you kill me. In a moment, night’s darkness will over come you all and nothing will protect you from the remaining wolf. Won’t you reconsider?”

Lommy shivered at his words of night’s darkness. Her eyes strayed towards the red sun. “No!” she cried suddenly. “We can’t reconsider! I’m tired of this! Tired of all these deaths! Tired of being falsely accused! Tired! Tired! Tired!” Lommy apparently was tired –and stressed - for she burst into tears, like women sometimes do. Valier came towards her and gently took her in her arms and hugged her. Over her head, she nodded to Nogrod, Farael, and the Captain. The three men went forward.

“In the army, we always hung the criminals,” Nogrod said quietly as he came towards Volo. “It will work.”

Half an hour later, they cut down the unchanged body of Volo. Silently, in the falling dusk, the three men dug a grave for their companion. Lommy and Valier sat together beside a fire when they returned to camp. No one said anything. They ate a cheerless dinner.

The last bit of red sunlight disappeared, leaving the sky dark. Cruel firelight flickered on the faces of the companions. They looked at each other mutely a moment before, silently, one by one, they all crept back to their own tents.


Dead

JennyHallu - Club President - Bound and collated on Night 1
Folwren - Vice-President - Used for ink on Night 1
Anguirel - Innocent - Misspelled on Day 1
Rikae - Innocent - Buried alive on Night 2
Gurthang - Innocent - Fell from grace on Day 2
Rune - Cobbler - Given a permanent assignment on Night 3
Naria - Werewolf - Tuned permanently on Day 3
Diamond - Innocent - Serenaded on Night 4
Boromir88 - Werewolf - Suffocated on Day 4
Durelin - Seer - ?? on Night 5
Volo - Innocent - Hung on Day 5

Alive

CaptainofDespair - Pompous Nobleman - Melneras, the Gnomish Archwizard
Farael - Heavy-metal singer - sneak
Nogrod - Retired General - Ciryatan of the Dúnedain, a one-legged Athelas vendor
Thinlomien - aging homeless sot - Lothwen the Pretty, elven flowermaid
Valier - Radical Hair Butcher - Elven Anoonnoon of Omicron Persieye 8

[Nogrod]

Should Durelin be taken off from among the living... She's hanging in there for a second time as a ghost...

(I will delete this message after it's done if it's seen decent by the mod)

[Folwren]

Thinlomien could not sleep after she had gone to her tent. She tossed and turned in her blankets, the events of the past days and nights going through her head over and over. She tried, to no avail, to keep the horrid pictures out of the dead companions, and the different mornings they had woken up to find bodies missing or mutilated.

Deep in the night, as she lay with her face in her pillow and shivering with some unknown terror, she felt a heavy, but gentle hand fall on the back of her head. A soft voice whispered in her ear.

“Why do you fear?” it asked. Whispered hoarsely, she could not tell if it was man or woman. She made no answer, and she even held her breath. Was this – was this - ? Terror froze her mind, her voice, everything. “It won’t take long. And, it will be painless. I can’t afford being found out tonight because of any noise…Look up. Do see this?” In the cloak of darkness, Lommy could see nothing except for a pale gleam that looked like glass. “Drink this water, and you’re death will be painless. If you make a noise or a movement, I’ll kill you in a less desirable way.”

It was like a dream. Lommy, captured by her terror of this unseen enemy, reached out to take the glass of water from the beast’s hand. She didn’t care to think what other death it had in store for her if she dared to disobey.

* - * - *

Only four people awoke the next morning. No one said anything. They all knew the routine. They instantly knew who was missing and all walked towards Lommy’s tent.

They found her body, cold and stiff, still in her bed. A peaceful look on her face, as though she slept. They knew, though, that from this sleep, she would not wake.

Dead

JennyHallu - Club President - Bound and collated on Night 1
Folwren - Vice-President - Used for ink on Night 1
Anguirel - Innocent - Misspelled on Day 1
Rikae - Innocent - Buried alive on Night 2
Gurthang - Innocent - Fell from grace on Day 2
Rune - Cobbler - Given a permanent assignment on Night 3
Naria - Werewolf - Tuned permanently on Day 3
Diamond - Innocent - Serenaded on Night 4
Boromir88 - Werewolf - Suffocated on Day 4
Durelin - Seer - ?? on Night 5
Volo - Innocent - Hung on Day 5
Thinlomien - Innocent - Poisoned on Night 6

Alive

CaptainofDespair - Pompous Nobleman - Melneras, the Gnomish Archwizard
Farael - Heavy-metal singer - sneak
Nogrod - Retired General - Ciryatan of the Dúnedain, a one-legged Athelas vendor
Valier - Radical Hair Butcher - Elven Anoonnoon of Omicron Persieye 8

Day 6 has begun. You may now discuss and decide who to kill this evening.

[Farael]

I do not get the reasoning behind that kill.. that reduces the number of unknowns, rather than having four unknowns, we have one known ordo and three unknowns.

Well, not going to complain about it. Question is, who is the guilty one, CoD or Valier?

[Nogrod]

???

:eek:

:smokin:

[CaptainofDespair]

Well, I know I'm innocent. It's either Valier, or Farael.

I find it very interesting that Thinlomien is the one that is dead, and not Nogrod, the known innocent. Obviously, this last wolf is very confident.

Maybe Thinlomien was on to something in her recent analysis post...which makes killing Nogrod less advantageous. Or not.

I'm very confused about this...

[Nogrod]

Important, read carefully the following.

Two votes are enough for one to get killed. So? If even one innocent gives out a vote that is for another innocent, the wolf will just pop in and make the second and it's game over for us. So the first vote must be made more than carefully! I've seen that happen (I was the one killed).

To avoid any accidents favouring the wolf it might be wise if all of you would tell us others here when you are going to be able to play toDay and when is the last time you can be online.

I for my part can drop in every once in a while about the whole Day - after I get some sleep first, pretty soon. I do have RL and need to see also for Fea's game, but will surely be available also at the deadline toDay (if it comes to that).

[CaptainofDespair]

Since tomorrow is Sunday, I will be around all day, on and off as my coursework reading requires (and that won't take long). So you may count on me being around til the deadline.

[Nogrod]

Well, if our fanged enemy here thought of confusing us, it really has succeeded.

This is just a weird situation... why did the wolf choose an unknown innocent and did not kill me?

I have thought of three possibilities.

1) I would think that the idea of Lommy being up to something too dangerous for the wolf could possibly be ruled out as that would be the obvious track we would start to follow. And honestly she basically said that Farael and CoD are probably innocent and Valier might be a furred one, but she had no strong points over her anyway. I just can't see Valier jumping around in panic and wishing to kill Lommy before me because of Lommy's posting. If anything, from this we might read a contrary lesson: Valier might be framed here to look guilty. But that would be a bit too clumsy.

conclusion, for now: Lommy was not killed because she suspected something or because someone wished to frame another via her thoughts.

2) A bit better candidate to my eyes is that I'm completely at loss with this (as I am, have been the whole game) and the wolf considered that I would pose a lesser threat to it toDay. So not so much Lommy being fearfully right but myself being totally lost and thence safer to play the last Day against? Adding to the above: you all remember the amount of work Lommy did yesterDay. Maybe our wolf is afraid that the devil is in the details and thence wanted Lommy out not to dig those details up? But for the wolf to actually risk letting one known innocent to remain in-game for that, the information must be mighty condemning! According to my lorebooks Valier surely is quite knowledgeable of the fact that I may also go on making detailed analysis which may be pretty nasty. I think Farael knows that too, even I'm not so sure about him. CoD I have never played with and thence he might not know it and this point could then point towards him being the culprit.

conclusion, for now: I'm not very confident about this option either: the stakes are a bit too high for this risk to be taken just on the basis of supposed playing styles.

3) The wolf feels itself so confident or is such a sporty type who wishes to make it not only winning but winning beautifully? This might not be too far-fetched if you remember what I said in my last post about the votes. Just one vote for a fellow innocent will mean death to us all if two of us can't turn the tables before the wolf gets to vote. But who could fit this description? Even though I don't know CoD from previous games I tend to doubt him being the one on the basis of this as he has been under a lot of fire in this game. Farael I'm not so sure. He feels to be more impulsive and aggressive than this cool... Valier then?

conclusion, for now: Somewhat baffled as I see this the most viable reason for killing Lommy in principle. If Boro would still be in the game (or Ang or...) I would be quite ready to call the lynching party immediately, but now...

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Well, I need to sleep on these now.

One thing I think would be useful - if anyone has time - would be a voting record for everyone for the whole game, including whom they voted, when they did it (in what situation of voting that Day) and with what kind of reasons.


Just please don't anyone vote before its absolutely necessary!

[Farael]

Maybe Thinlomien was on to something in her recent analysis post...which makes killing Nogrod less advantageous. Or not.

Loomy was suspecting Volo and Valier. I'm sure you know this, and I'm sure the wolf knows it too... that's why you killed Loomy to frame Valier today, ain't it CoD?

[Valier]

ummmmm Ok well this is just weird. I never even gave it a second thought Nogrod that you wouldn't be killed last night(sorry, no offense) You are the only known innocent. This is confusing and I'm not quite sure I understand your theory's yet Nogrod about why Lommy was killed.
It makes me feel well....I'm not quite sure...I know that I am innocent and I know that Nogrod is innocent, so that leaves Farael and CoD. Who have I suspected for most of the game? CoD that's who. I think when he almost got lynched the Day Ang went, everyone just let him go the next day. He has been coasting through, with a sour attitude for most of the time and has shared little theory's. he just votes for people who vote for him and have any suspicion of him(namely me) with little or no real reason. I am sure it is all pure luck that he is still alive.

I will be around for most of this day on and off, so I will reread all CoD and Farael's votes, but my gut tells me it's CoD. I still want to talk this out between the four of us....perhaps you Wolfie would like to just give up?

[Nogrod]

Farael's last post makes me drop in this one thought too before I go to bed.

I have kind of looked at the three possible explanations to Lommy's death on my own point of view. But taking the example Farael provided: were I the wolf here, I would never try such a frame up against Valier as I would think that it would just be too easy to pick up and thence lead to my lynching. (Well in case I had failed in that way I could always say that it is a double bluff and someone is trying to frame me by making you believe I tried to frame Valier... :D ) But the question is, how would CoD think of it? Would he think of it as a good idea?

These kinds of questions we need to consider toDay, all of us.

[Valier]

Wow Nog your post makes my head spin.....I just can't get all these conspiracy theory's. I thought why would the wolf be so dumb as to frame me, when it would certainly look like I was being framed? And if the wolf was trying to frame me, who is it? Is it CoD, thinking we wouldn't think he was that dumb , so we would kill farael? Or is it Farael hoping that you either take the framing as real and you kill me or that you don't and kill CoD.....AAAHHHHHH!! This is making my brain hurt already! Ok I need to slow down and think about this some more.

[Farael]

I think it's quite simple... Valier is quite experienced, thus she would have killed Nogrod, which is the safest move and it leaves absoultely no trail. By killing Loomy the wolf must have thought that he could frame Valier who was Loomy's other suspect (other than the now deceased Volo I mean).

I know I'm an ordo
I know Noggy is an ordo
I am fairly sure that Valier, should she have been a wolf, would have killed Nogrod

Thus, and taking into consideration that in any other situation Loomy's death would have reflected poorly on Valier it leads me to think that CoD is our last remaining wolf.

[CaptainofDespair]

Interesting, Farael. You continue such direct attacks against me. Perhaps trying to frame me to get me killed once and for all? I know you relish the thought. ;)

And I find it interesting that you seem so certain you know why Thinlomien was killed and not Nogrod.

But you leave out one crucial factor. I am smart enough to see the benefit of killing Nogrod. It makes more sense, even to me.

You could be our wolf, easily, Farael. You have wonderful little theories abour why I could be it...yet those ideas could well be taken from your own playbook.

And Valier, I will say this: I have gotten through this on being both lucky, and being a distraction. Granted, you all started that distraction. But in any case, I became a good cover for the wolves, it seems.

[Farael]

See, that's what I don't like CoD... you are saying "if I was a wolf..." and yet, why should we trust you?

Why should you trust me? well, you figure that out... but I think I've proven my innocence by actions, not by speaking, unlike you my friend.

I wouldn't write Valier off just yet, only because of the whole episode with CobleRune thinking Naria the wolf a wolf and CoD an ordo (which probably lead to the death of CobleRune but if we ignore that, I'd grab my ptichfork in a moment and be done with you CoD

Yet we can't ignore it... question is, do we really know why the wolves killed Rune? after all, he was not really contributing a whole lot, which fits the MO of the wolves at the time, they were killing those that spoke little.

Did they take a chance? did they actually think that Rune was the seer because he nailed Naria? now what if CoD IS a wolf and they figured that killing Rune would exonerate whoever survived between him or Naria?

We don't know what the wolves thought, maybe they just lucked out and hadn't seen those comments... and then they ran along when Loomy brought it up.... or maybe they had it all planned out, and were waiting for someone to point it out before doing it themselves.

What's my point?

Well, while Valier seems the most logical choice, we should still do as much analysis as we can, and ultimately it is up to us.

[Farael]

Well, it all winds down to this... I won't be online tomorrow at all and thus I have to cast my vote and pray for the best. If I am wrong, I sure hope that the two remaining ordos will cast their vote for the wolf before s/he comes in to vote.

Now for my reasoning. Valier is the logical choice, but solely based on one episode and a series of assumptions by many of us. If it wasn't for the whole deal with Rune I wouldn't even hesitate. But then, it is a fairly logical assumption that the wolves panicked thinking Rune was the Seer.

On the other hand, I've been suspecting CoD all game long, and all he has done was defend himself. I can't recall him making any strong cases, other than his self-defence he has been tossing suspicion around lightly and going along with the flow for the most part.

Last night though was a big deal for me. Since Loomy suspected Valier I think that the wolf was trying to frame her. We could argue for a double-bluff, but I think that we ordos consistently think too much of the wolves. Nine out of ten times, they won't multiple-bluff.

I know I'm an ordo, Nogrod is an ordo too, so that leaves the one I've suspected all along

++CoD.

And if I'm wrong, then may Eru have mercy on our souls.

Best of lucks for the end of the day. I hope I haven't just condemned us all... and the worst part is that I will not know until late tomorrow night.

[Nogrod]

*crosses fingers*

If CoD is innocent, the wolf has practically won. But as long as it won't come in and vote we have hope left.

If Farael himself is not our wolf who got unlucky by RL and had to vote first...

I'll be back a bit later.

[Nogrod]

Okay. First the vote-tally from this game. Analysis of it in the next post.

Day1
Lommy --> CoD (CoD1)
Gurthang --> Anguirel (CoD1, Ang1)
Rune --> Volo (CoD1, Ang1, Volo1)
Volo --> CoD (CoD2, Ang1, Volo1)
Anguirel --> Diamond (CoD2, Ang1, Volo1, Di1)
Boromir --> Farael (CoD2, Ang1, Volo1, Di1, Farael1)
CoD --> Lommy (CoD2, Ang1, Volo1, Di1, Farael1, Lommy1)
Rikae --> CoD (CoD3, Ang1, Volo1, Di1, Farael1, Lommy1)
Diamond --> Anguirel (CoD3, Ang2, Volo1, Di1, Farael1, Lommy1)
Durelin --> Anguirel (CoD3, Ang3, Volo1, Di1, Farael1, Lommy1)
Nogrod – Anguirel (CoD3, Ang4, Volo1, Di1, Farael1, Lommy1)
Valier – Di (CoD3, Ang3, Volo1, Di2, Farael1, Lommy1)
Farael – no vote
Naria – no vote

Rikae dead by Night

Day2
Gurthang --> Durelin (Durelin1)
Boromir --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang1)
Naria --> CoD (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1)
Diamond --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1, Naria1)
Lommy --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria1)
Rune --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria2)
Durelin --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang3, CoD1, Naria2)
CoD --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang3, CoD1, Naria3)
Gurthang – [-] Durelin (Gurthang3, CoD1, Naria3)
Valier – Gurthang (Gurthang4, CoD1, Naria3)
Nogrod – Gurthang (Gurthang5, CoD1, Naria3)
Gurthang – Gurthang (Gurthang6, CoD1, Naria3)
Farael (on overtime) – Durelin (Gurthang6, CoD1, Naria3, Durelin1)
Farael – [-] Durelin, [+] CoD (Gurthang6, CoD2, Naria3)
Volo – no vote

Rune the cobbler dead by Night

Day3
Volo --> CoD (CoD1)
Di --> Naria (CoD1, Naria1)
CoD --> Naria (CoD1, Naria2)
Lommy – Naria (CoD1, Naria3)
Valier – CoD (CoD2, Naria3)
Boro – Farael (CoD2, Naria3, Farael1)
Nogrod – Farael (CoD2, Naria3, Farael2)
Durelin – Naria (CoD2, Naria4, Farael2)
Naria – no vote
Farael – no vote

Diamond dead by night

Day4
Nogrod – Boro (Boro1)
Lommy – Boro (2)
Farael – Boro (3)
CoD – Boro (4)
Valier – Boro (5)
Boro – Lommy (Boro5, Lommy1)
Volo – Boro (Boro6, Lommy1)
Durelin – Boro (Boro7, Lommy1)

Durelin the Seer dead by Night

Day5
Lommy --> Volo (Volo1)
Farael --> Volo (Volo2)
Valier --> Volo (Volo3)
CoD – Volo (Volo4)
Volo – Valier (Volo4, Valier1)
Nogrod – no vote

Lommy dead by Night

[Nogrod]

Analysis based on the voting record.

Valier
Day1: Did not wish to break the tie between Ang and CoD. Looks innocentish as it would be too eyebrow-raising were she a wolf?
Day2: Puts Gurthang in the lead over wolf-Naria with 1-2 votes still coming (Volo had said not to be there and Farael had been away, so possibly only one vote left and thence a decider?). Could be seen as saving a pal but then again a bit too bold maybe?
Day3: Voting for CoD and thence easing the pressure on wolf-Naria by lifting CoD to the game (after her vote CoD2, Naria3). Again helping a friend but looking a bit too bold?
Day4: Couldn’t have voted otherwise...
Day5: Bandwaggoned Volo and gave the deciding vote actually lynching him.

She has not been suspected in earnest in the whole game and not voted either. Her voting record yells for a wolf, a bold and friend-helping wolf indeed. Could that be? If we think our wolf is confident, she would look like it.

Farael
Day1: No vote. Voted by Boro-wolf.
Day2: Votes overtime for Durelin and then changes to CoD. The vote not counted.
Day3: No vote. Voted by Boro-wolf (but there was no actual danger of Farael being lynched, if he’s a fellow to Boro)
Day4: Couldn’t have voted otherwise...
Day5: Gave the second vote for Volo. Safe.

He has been heavily suspected by Boro-wolf and voted by him too, but has actually not been in great danger from it. So possibly a scheme? His voting record looks terrible (two no-votes and one overtime, one “compulsory” and one “safe” vote) and is hard to draw on. Anyhow all this eases my suspicions on him a bit.

CoD
Day1: Voted Lommy in retaliation and thence spreaded voting even though he himself was in the lead.
Day2: Voted by wolf-Naria and retaliated, putting her at level with Gurthang, above all others.
Day3: Continued against wolf-Naria, making her lead the tally with one vote.
Day4: Couldn’t have voted otherwise...
Day5: Vote for Volo which had no meaning whatsoever anymore as Volo was already dead (Volo had voted for CoD a few times before, so from the way CoD seems to play that looks reasonable, though).

Even though I don’t approve of his reasons for voting, his relation to wolf-Naria looks not wolvish, on the contrary. So might be innocent then?

[Nogrod]

If Farael is the wolf and will be gone as he said he will be, we might yet be saved as no wolf will be rushing in to claim victory toDay.

If CoD is a wolf the same thing will happen: no rushing in wolves to be seen toDay.

So if no one claims victory before the last moments of the Day myself and Valier need to come up with a choice between the two.

If Valier is a wolf (which I consider at the moment most likely of you three), we're dead already unless me and CoD vote her before she gets back online.

But if I'm wrong here and vote for Valier the innocent, then CoD, if wolf, will be let out from the tight spot he is now and will carry the Day and the game...


If Valier is a wolf she will come and claim victory by voting CoD. If she is not, she will come in with a complaint of the following:

In Valier's play there seems to be a pattern and a logic - albeit quite a bold one and CoD's voting Naria twice looks pretty unwolvish.

++ Valier

I'm looking worwards to you entering Valier. If you come in before CoD and do not claim victory but protest my vote, I will retract it.

CoD, if you're the wolf... :eek:

But if you CoD are innocent, remember that if Valier has already been in and wailing for my vote and not claiming victory by voting you, then she is not the wolf - and thence Farael is!

A lot depends just on who comes in the next... :(

[CaptainofDespair]

++Valier

If only to save myself...

Edit: More thoughts to come.

[Nogrod]

Thanks CoD! You made just what I hoped you would as we have now eliminated Farael's vote and are back on the zero-point. That is best to us all.

Why so? Look at the following.

If Valier indeed is the wolf she can't come in and take her victory just by voting you as she has now gathered two votes first. So we are now secured against that possibility.

Whether CoD starts to look like the wolf, I may retract my vote on Valier and vote him instead and he might be lynched.

And we all have now time and breathing space also to consider Farael without forcefully needing to disregard him because of previous voting.

So back to the drawingboard and really considering this seriously, everyone. And let's stay careful with voting from this on. And I do hope you two stick to this seriously toDay. I will interpret quietness heavily suspicious as avoidance of discussion that would be tempting for a wolf indeed.


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Remember Farael will not come and retract so his vote stays. CoD and myself may retract once and Valier has two votes left.

Farael --> CoD (CoD1) - will not be retracted
Nogrod --> Valier (CoD1, Valier1) - subject to change
CoD --> Valier (CoD1, Valier2) - changeable

[CaptainofDespair]

Indeed.

If Farael is the wolf, he may have been hoping that Valier would show up to vote for me. Voting first for me would be the safe vote, and since his is non-retractable, all he needs to do is entice one person to finish the job. And he has been suspicious of me before (practically the whole game?), and has voted for me before, so it won't seem that odd to just vote CoD.

Maybe I am over-thinking all of this, but it does feel quite 'safe' to do it that way. His hastiness in voting for me feels off. Would an ordinary villagers really vote that quickly, knowing he has a non-retractable vote? Unless he was really, really sure of himself, I'm inclined to think not.

[Valier]

wow I go to sleep and look what happens.....I am the wrong choice I assure you and I have no desire to die now and let the village lose to this mangy wolf. What else is there to say? If you want to lose, go ahead kill me. But come on now. Don't you want to win? There must be something else we can say or do, so that we assure a village win.

[Nogrod]

I am the wrong choice I assure you and I have no desire to die now and let the village lose to this mangy wolf. What else is there to say? If you want to lose, go ahead kill me. But come on now. Don't you want to win? There must be something else we can say or do, so that we assure a village win.You surely know there is lots of other things to do... How about putting forwards a point or two to help us? :rolleyes:

[Valier]

*sigh* I have looked over CoD's post several times and I just can't see why he doesn't look bad to you Nogrod. He has done VERY little. His votes for Naria are not odd if he was a wolf. He has been pretty safe from getting lynched so why not set himself up as best as possible to look innocent in the end. He is a follower, he votes for people who others have suspected, and not who he truely thinks is a real baddie threat. He has just coasted. Point in case you vote for me Nogrod and just what you said would happen did. the last wolf jumped on your vote for me just 20 minutes after you voted. And wasn't it convenient that I wasn't around.

[Nogrod]

Cool off Valier... ;)

I'm still quite ready to vote for CoD for a couple of reasons, but we had to save ourselves by giving you the two votes so that you couldn't just come in and claim your win. We couldn't be sure about your innocence as you well know.

Now we have time to think about everything again as no one can just call this a Day for her/himself...

So let's bring things forwards, we still have almost five hours to go.

EDIT: see my #303 for more of an explanation of what I have wished to be done and why.

[Valier]

Oh Ok Nogrod I get now why you voted. I think since the three of us are here we should try and talk this out as much as we can. I do think it is odd that Farael is not here. What if he is the last wolf and he is conveniently not here so that we don't even look towards him anymore and us three just continue to argue amongst ourselves?

[Nogrod]

That's one thing I fear... Three innocents having a row and the villain winning even if not even participating.

We should also look at Farael.

[Nogrod]

Now Farael being the wolf would possibly give one solution to our problem why I wasn't killed but Lommy was. As you have all noticed, Farael seemingly does not read the thread too actively (understatement). So might it have escaped him what the situation was? It would sound quite awkward, but not totally implausible.

But his not reading the thread everytime and his total blunders with voting (2 non-votings and 1 overtime) could speak also in his favour. Would a wolf be so careless? In some games he would have been outed with a mod-fire already a long time ago!

His rant with Boromir looks a bit noisy to be wolf-on-wolf. Boro also voted him twice - but as should be seen: in neither case did Boro throw him seriously into harms way. So it might also be wolf-on-wolf.

More on Farael, anyone?

[CaptainofDespair]

I think Farael's attacks on Boromir speak more to possible wolfdom than not. Relatively few had gone after Boromir seriously, and even then he was only outed with Durelin's revelation.

Perhaps he was trying to separate himself in the event of either being found out? And on Boro's last day, their banter continued. I think dismissing Boro's ravings would be a failure on our part. In trying to confuse us he would have had to have put out who was the other wolf. And much of Boro's early mentionings were directed at Farael. Only after that did he start spreading out the confusion towards Valier, Volo, and myself.

[Nogrod]

I wouldn't count too much on what Boro ranted after being revealed. He's too experienced a wolf to play foolishly in that situation. So everything he said was meant to confuse, including those sentences that were probably true. We just have no way of judging which were false and which true...

But your point about Farael's attack on Boro seems worth noticing.

[Nogrod]

Where are you guys?

It makes no sense for me to fill this thread now! If I say something to defend the wolf it will use it against the innocent's accusations and if I say something to suspect the innocent the wolf will use it to attack that one...

I just say I'm not at all ready to vote yet as it could go anyway just now.

So talk, please. Give points and suspicions.

I'll be back about an hour before the deadline as I have some work to do (RL). Hopefully we'll get to see and say something by then.

[Valier]

Sorry I've had stuff to do around my house. I'm glad you have decided to share some points CoD and you've brought up some good ones. Both Farael and CoD could have killed Lommy, because she suspect both little and this would point the blame in different directions. Boromir and Farael's interaction during the game could just be a scheme the wolves came up with to have Naria die and both remaining wolves argue and banter to make sure that at least one would survive till the end. I wouldn't put it past them, both Boromir and Farael have had experience being bad as well as Naria.

I keep worrying that Farael may just come back right before the deadline and mess with the voting to win (he still has a retraction and can we take his word that he won't be back?...kinda convenient isn't it? he can save himself if he really needs to in the end if we don't do something.) I think we three need to come together and make a unanomous vote and kill the last remaining wolf. If we all vote for Farael, he will have no chance of being able to switch the vote at the end to his favor. What do you guys think? I will be here for the last hour of the day, and I hope you both will be here too so we can come to a decision.

[CaptainofDespair]

We only get one retraction, right? Which means Farael used his. Though, it could throw kinks in any strategy, if his retraction did not count (as he posted after the deadline both times).

Does anyone have a clue towards how that one works?

[Valier]

I am pretty sure we are allowed one retraction per day and Farael voted for you CoD so he can still change his vote once today before the deadline. He can still come on moments before and change his vote.

[Nogrod]

I'm back and have given this some thought. My main suspicion at the moment seems to be Farael too, but let's not be hasty - if you both have a possibility to stay this last hour. Valier, your fear will not come true. Even if Farael comes back we can still vote him over 3-1.

But we will have to think of it.

I will post my suspicions of Farel and also why I think either of you could be wolves and why not. I try to be fast and short.
(Me? Fast and short? :rolleyes: )

Make your points if you have any. We have not much time. It would be easy to lynch Farael now as he's not with us so do not let the easiness of it overcome your judgement!

[Nogrod]

Farael has a terrible voting record and has not been around too much. But it's tough luck if someone with lots of RL going on was picked as a wolf. I'm afraid we can't use it against him anyhow as that would be bad sportsmanship. For these games to be possible we just have to take any claims towards RL troubles at face value. And if someone cheats with them let it lessen the glory they feel for their winnings.

But I'm growing less and less convinced about the row between Farael and Boromir to speak for Farael's innocence. We should also remeber that Boro's votes for Farael were never dangerous ones (they didn't actually threaten him with lynching), so they might be safeties too? And surely if one died the other would look good, as many of us (f.ex. myself and Lommy) have thought so far.

Also it's not impossible that Farael could be the one who due to inattendance to what was happening in the game (due to RL-rush) never noticed Durelin's post where I was declared innocent - or any other mentioning of it in the couple of posts that did say it aloud. So that could explain the inexplicable confusion Lommy's death brought forwards? Otherwise it's an insane decision by the wolf - as Lommy had openly said that she could only drop in one time the whole day toDay (wouldn't that have been the easisest villager for the wolf to cope?)!

[Nogrod]

Then the points on you, why I think you two might be innocents.

CoD I could come up with a host of reasons to vote.
- Boro's friendship so overdone? Why would he do it if not to play just smartly - which he can do! I'm still havin problems to believe it and that's just why I suspect it.
- Your systematic voting pattern (vote for the one that suspected you) defies analysis and with its safety calls for suspicion.
- Your appearance toDay was more than convenient. After saying you might drop in during the whole Day you effectually appeared only after something of note to you had happened - and your reason for voting for Valier was not to get rid of the wolf but to save your own neck...

But CoD's relation with Naria talks better of him.
- Your votes first brought her level with another one and the other time put her on the lead.
- Naria's random vote for you - after you had gained a lot of suspicion the Day before speaks of you the most highly!

Valier to follow...

[CaptainofDespair]

Yes, he does have a terrible voting record. The only consistent votes he has had are against Boromir and myself, and those never amounted to much. Rather odd, I think.

At this point, I am inclined to think Farael may be our last wolf. I will hold off on voting however. I'd like to see if we'll have a consensus first.

[Nogrod]

Valier's voting record really looks logical and clear were she a wolf.
- Protecting Naria with both words and deeds (votes), consistently voting to let Naria out of the trouble two Days in a row.
- Nailing Volo yesterDay with a safe vote as he had been somewhat being suspected by most of us so you had a good reason for your vote and sealed the destiny of one innocent.

But then there is the other side of this.
- Would she be defending her comrade-in-lycantrophy so boldly?
- Remembering that Boro already defended Naria indirectly by trying to question the grounds of Lommy's theory about Rune's death, it would sound astoninshing indeed if the other wolf would also get involved in saving the fellow so openly. I mean both wolves on high-publicity rescue effort for a fellow? I think that highly improbable and meriting the victory if it so was...

[Nogrod]

I will hold off on voting however. I'd like to see if we'll have a consensus first.Good!

Btw. this might be historical, but I tend to believe you two more innocent because you have been so silent... (NB. Nogrod calling someone innocednt because the ones don't speak a lot!!! *now where's that history-book?*)

What I mean is that either of you being a wolf would have liked more actively to influence the voting toDay as you both were under the death-sentence (CoD with a permanent one vote anytime executed to be the final one and Valier for already gaining two first, even if removable).

But now, what say you?

[Valier]

I think we have all made very valid and reasonable points about Farael today. I think he is the logical choice for the last wolf. CoD if you are the last wolf....Kudos to you, you are still mighty suspisious, but after all this talk about Farael I feel we have unearthed alot against him. Do we have a concensus? We are running out of time

[CaptainofDespair]

I think we have consensus in regard to Farael. He appears to be the logical choice.

But Valier worries me, now. She seems quite anxious for us to switch our votes. Maybe that is just the time speaking for her, though.

[Nogrod]

Valier. You are making me most uneasy now with your hurry and the previous post about the need to have a consensus on Farael... after a 180 degree turn from high suspicion on CoD...

It's Farael or you to me toDay... Ten minutes. Good arguments against Farael and a bad last moment feeling for you.

[Nogrod]

Darn CoD, you got the same feeling? Might we be right?

But Farael might explain Lommy's death...

[Valier]

I am in a rush, because we only have less than ten minutes left, no other reason. I will vote for Farael first if that is what you guys are worried about.

[Nogrod]

If we let our votes stand, Valier dies.

If we change them Farael probably gets lynched.

Nasty to leave it to the last minutes...

[Nogrod]

I will vote for Farael first if that is what you guys are worried about.That's not the thing... and this post kind of made me a bit more confident in you.

[CaptainofDespair]

Darn CoD, you got the same feeling? Might we be right?

But Farael might explain Lommy's death...

I'm not sure. This is all very confusing. I'm getting conflicting feelings regarding the two of them right now.

Do we just need to secure reasoning for killing Thinlomien? I would like to lynch Farael, and granted he has been on my case this whole game, but Valier has given me some odd feelings from time to time with her voting and reasoning.

[Nogrod]

I'll trust the enigma of Lommy's death be resolved with this

-- Valier

++ Farael

As Farael liked to point out: may Eru watch after us...

And if Valier was the baddie, well that was sooo incredibly bold game that I've not seen one like that in my WW-history. And thence deserves to win.

[Valier]

Well I really would like to see us win this and I don't get why you guys all of a sudden suspect me more. I thought we had a consensus going and I just stated that in a rush, we have no time to beat around the bush. We know it's one of us, and time is running out. I believe we are right in our thoughts on Farael. I hope you make the right choice.

++Farael

[CaptainofDespair]

--Valier

++Farael

I do hope we are right.

[Nogrod]

*crossesfingers*

[Valier]

*crosses toes*

[CaptainofDespair]

May the righteous dead bless us...

[Nogrod]

As no votes will be accepted after the deadline we might consider us victorious - unless someone of us does not know it and tries to stay low for that reason... Were I a wolf I would have started a little show-off just for the fun of it. :)

[CaptainofDespair]

As no votes will be accepted after the deadline we might consider us victorious - unless someone of us does not know it and tries to stay low for that reason... Were I a wolf I would have started a little show-off just for the fun of it. :)

Now, now...don't get too sure of yourself. Maybe they'd rather have Jenny drop the last bomb on us, after making us wait in suspense.

[Valier]

Or maybe they just aren't around.... ;)

[Nogrod]

Should I start to suspect you again CoD? :D

[CaptainofDespair]

Should I start to suspect you again CoD? :D

No, not that it matters now. :p

[JennyHallu]

Day's closed. Farael is innocent. Which leaves three of you left right?

So tonight our wolf kills one, and tomorrow wins automatically...

I don't have internet at home yet, so no narration yet (SO SORRY ABOUT NARRATIONS), but let me just give a resounding

"Way to Go, VALIER!"

Because that was one of the most masterful displays of evilness ever...

[Valier]

" GGGGGRRRRRRRR Baby yeah!!!!!!!" :smokin:

[Boromir88]

Congrat's Valier, very nifty dealing and moves made at the end...excellent job. :D

[Nogrod]

And we were so close!!! On last minute we were pondering about changing to Valier... with good reasons it seems!

Oh darn you Valier, just beautiful! Worth of every minstrel to sing loud and clear!!!

Just great! And I mean the whole team!

*boldboldbold*

[Valier]

I would like to appologize to CoD for being on you the whole game....forgive me? and Nogrod....so sorry I took advantage ;) That was the most intense game EVER!!!!! I had sweaty palms and everything. Great job fellow wolves for leading everyone astray and thanks Boromir for your last day, my sides were hurting from laughing!!

[Farael]

You killed ME???? after all I did (including suspecting innocent CoD... whoops)

I knew it, I knew I shouldn't have left... I came here expecting victory and this is what I get? LYNCHED?!

Oh well, I guess I should take my hat off to Valier, she managed to say nothing of substance and let us ordos kill each other.

And CoD, I still don't trust you :p

Good job to the wolves... they had us running around good for most of the game. And good job on Durelin without whom we wouldn't have stood a chance. Got to run, I just wanted to check in to see what had happened.

[Folwren]

The remaining four had argued all that day. They tried to keep their heads clear, but the fear that hung over all of them clouded their minds like an insistent and annoying mist. They all trembled for their very lives. None of them had any guarantee that they would survive.

Finally, as evening drew near, they began to voice who they thought should be killed. “Valier must,” they said. “She has to be the guilty one.”

“I am not!” she cried, a hot flush rising to her already burning cheeks. “Look at Farael! Look at his shameful voting record, what happened to Lommy last night!” Her arguments and points continued and no one could put them off. Farael remained silent and mute, staring at her with bitterness in his dark eyes.

Time pressed them. Valier had convinced the Captain and Nogrod. Nothing was left to be done, except execute him.

“You two do it, like you did to Volo last night,” Valier said, stepping back. “I want nothing to do with this. I personally think it’s a man’s job.” A strange smile flickered across her lips, but neither Nogrod nor the Captain noticed it.

“She’s guilty!” Farael bawled out. “You can tell by the look on her face! She’s guilty! Kill her, not me! I didn’t kill Lommy! It would have been a stupid thing for me to do because you would suspect me!”

Nogrod grabbed his arm and started to haul him away, but Farael kicked and struggled, shouting and coming close to cursing in despair and fury. He struck Nogrod to get him to let go and knocked the elderly general to the grond. The Captain had had enough. He drew a hidden knife and plunged it deep into Farael’s left side.

“You are our final wolf,” he whispered harshly in his ear. “Don’t complain when you get your just desserts.”

Farael looked at him, his eyes round and large, gasped once, and then collapsed in a heap on the ground.

A fiendish laugh burst out from behind the Captain startling him. He jerked around, the knife in his hand. Valier was doubled over, laughing until the tears ran down her face. And beside her, stood a tall, dark man, clothed in black and cloaked like one of old.

“The blood of your own friend stains your hand,” the man said. “You have killed your last hope and now hope is no more.”

Nogrod slowly rose to his feet and stood beside the Captain. The stranger’s dark eyes flicked to Nogrod and he smiled in a way that made the two innocent companions shudder.

“Now, despair and die.”

A hideous transformation took place in Valier’s body. Before their eyes, she transformed into that legendary creature, the werewolf.

The sun was just sinking now, and the required darkness of night was falling to cloak the scenes that troubled the earth below.

[Boromir88]

Just to rub it in a little bit (because I'd like to)...

Everyone was looking in the wrong place...to show you:
I'll help you out more...what I've said today is 1000 times more valuable than anything I've said in the prior days combined...yep...it's true
Aye, but nobody wanted to take my last day serious so concentrated on the wrong days...I really wanted to help, but nobody believed me. :p
If I was an innocent I would really be concerned about Farael and Lommy over there...Aye the one's that are acting all good and just in getting rid of me, they're the one's to look at.

Valier would scare me even more...she's Miss silent assassin wolf over there
Valier...don't worry I'll find a way to get you back for the betrayal you just committed. I can't believe it. This is definitely not what we had discussed.

Can't say it enough crafty maneuvering there at the end, you came so close to getting pinned twice. Had Durelin picked you there was no hope, and you were good for dead there at the end until the last minutes. :D

[Nogrod]

Hi baddies! Tell me what was the point in killing Lommy? I thought that Valier might be capable of it but still it felt just odder than odd... So you tried to frame Farael, or what?

[Durelin]

Arrrrrrrrrgh!

So I guess I should have dreamed of you. Then I would have been in 7th heaven right now.

Good job you wolves! And I think all us villagers deserve a good bit of praise, too. That was such an excellent game! I haven't been in one so supenseful...well, at all, that I can recall. :D

[Valier]

Ok it will take me awhile to calm down from that last hour.... :eek: Great job from everyone!!! I pulled out all the stops and every plan I could think of to sway you all to not kill me, I was sure I wouldn't get away with it.....I am proud of myself for not screwing it all up by saying something dumb at the end.

[Nogrod]

Boro, you posted so much stuff after Durelin's revealment that it would have been futile to try and guess which ones were right (as I knew there would be right ones) and which were plain misleading.

But you have deserved your hour of rubbing... :D

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I must have been the worst Cobbler ever, but then I made a pretty good Seer. . . :p

Sorry about that friends. . .

I actually had spend the whole day (night fase) reading through the game where TORE exelled as a Cobbler, to get a clue to what I could do.

I was sure I could not spot the wolves so I decided that I wanted to stir some confusion or get my self lynched, but unfortunately my friends had already decided to kill me.

[Valier]

Hi baddies! Tell me what was the point in killing Lommy? I thought that Valier might be capable of it but still it felt just odder than odd... So you tried to frame Farael, or what?

I actually did what I didn't think you would think I would do...TeeHee So I killed Lommy to throw you all for a loop. And I wanted to bring people to the end who I could hope to sway...and I knew Lommy would be a challenge. Really I had so many plans going on in my head I was a wreck!! I had butterflies in my stomache and sweaty palms for most of the last part of the game.

[Naria]

Wow!! That was the most intense hour EVER :eek: !! Absolutely brilliant Valier, you rock!

I know that there may be some of you that wondered why I would not post to, at the very least, try and save myself. Well, two words...sacrificial wolf. I did have the flu so I figured why mess with the plan and possibly ruin it by making a feavered induced stupid post...that could have pointed to one of my companions. Every kill we did was thought out to it's fullest(yes even you Rune...ugh) and pretty much every word spoken was intentional. Bold? Nah. Crazy? Maybe. Cunning and devious? Definately. The end result...priceless!

Boro, you had me tearing up with your last posts. Just great!! :D

Durelin, how did you manage to keep quite like that?! You would have definetely made it to the end(as possibly the only seer in ww?) because we had NO idea it was you and wouldn't have figured it out till it was too late. Even though you were on the good team, I take a bow...good job!!

To the rest of the clan...kudos! You all played a really amazing game.

To Jenny and Foley. I loved your narrations and can't wait for the final one...kudos as well to you both.

[Rikae]

Well, Boro seems slightly odd, actually, but I can't put my finger on it yet. It isn't merely quietness; something about him seems wicked, tricksssy, falsssse, but I'll reserve judgement for now.
I guess I need to learn to keep my big mouth shut when I have a hunch!

[Diamond18]

Heh, even though I'm on the losing side I'm still pretty happy, since I figured out that both Naria, Boromir, and Valier were wolves. Congrats to Valier for surviving. :D I guess I don't have much else to say, because I kind of lost touch with what was going on after I died. I would have kept up with the goings on here but I was busy with Fea's game.

[CaptainofDespair]

I would like to appologize to CoD for being on you the whole game....forgive me?

Oh, of course I do. Good game, wolfie. :)

[Thinlómien]

We had almost nailed Valier, but why on earth such a last-minute bandwagon? :confused: :D

Anyway, this game was a lovely one, well played everyone, especially Valier. Killing me was a genious move from you. Without the cinfusion created by it I bet you would have been lynched. Beautifully played, Valier, no doubt and kudos for wolf-spotting, Durelin!

[Nogrod]

well played everyone, especially Valier. Killing me was a genious move from you. Without the cinfusion created by it I bet you would have been lynched. Beautifully played, Valier!Absolutely. As you can see from the thread, I said that Valier's voting and talking just screamed a wolf. But still the only one to have believably not noticed Durelin's dream of my innocence would have been Farael - and so a reasonable explanation to that problem turned me towards Farael than to what was standing right in front of me... even though I wawered at the last minute with CoD. But we just never managed to turn that suspicion into action.

A great team-work, baddies!

[Volo]

Aaargh! I guess like so many, I really wanted to stand up and shout last day! Oh, how I cursed when I couldn't post my summary on Valier before you killed me...

But thanks for the game! Valier, I congratulate you! And the same goes for you all! I was really interested with the game on day five, as you put some pressure and I had time. :D Even as I like WW, I feel like staying out from the next games, unless they really have something new and amazing in their ads...

[Folwren]

Alright, everyone. I have written and posted the last narration of the game up in my post above somewhere. It's not too far back. I just edited it in where I said 'Good game' and all that jolly stuff.

Thanks for letting me join you. I enjoyed very much writing the narrations, though I have to admit, I didn't read the game much. Werewolf is too intense to keep up with it when you're not actually playing.....

Good game, all!

-- Folwren

[Gil-Galad]

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