Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXVII - Ballroom Blitz

[mormegil]

Noggie, it's nice to know that you are innocent. What I am seeing is exactly what I expected to see when this whole ball began namely; A small group working in unison against the main flow. Based on new posting and thought I've revised my theory about Valier a bit, though she's not innocent in my view she's looking a bit better than others: Naria to top the list, Mac, Farael are the others. Three people singing the same off beat tune with spurious logic as to why I'm guilty.

If it's remembered that one cobbler has no official idea who is who but one cobbler does. The wolf also has no clue who is who, officially, but if you take the general feel of those three or four I promise that at least two of the three are in there likely all three.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Remember the wolf has to kill someone. Rikae was hardly among the top-suspected players so why not her? We have the tendency to over-analyse things and cause severe brain attacks. :p

Anyway, I noticed in Celuien's post #94 that she makes use of the :) Funnily enough, Mac does that in post #232 and #239. All when trying to pacify potential adversaries. Desperate to appear friendly? It's something I've seen before and it flushed out a wolf. (Bad memories :rolleyes: )

Anyway, I think that point, as trivial as it may seem, is far more substantial than anything Mac has raised against me. Yet I am apparently his top suspect. Of course, as Mac himself admits, there's nothing wolvish about me, and there's nothing I've said that he can point to and say 'Look at that!' But still.

Know what I think, Mac? You're scaremongering. You're eager to whip up an anti-Eomer frenzy because you know how easy it is. When you repeat the assertion that I am very suspicious, but without any semblance of a reason why — other than that I'm supposedly playing like Celuien (?) — it makes me wonder.

I didn't responded to these suspicions before because I felt they were so beneath me, but if you're going to persist with this thought then I have to point it out.


Suspicious of: Naria, Valier, Mac, Farael.

Somewhat wary of: Mormegil, Holbytlass, Folwren.

Reasonably unworried about: Lalwendë, Nogrod.

Absolutely certain of innocence, beauty and, yea! perfection: Cailín

[Macalaure]

What I am seeing is exactly what I expected to see when this whole ball began namely; A small group working in unison against the main flow. Based on new posting and thought I've revised my theory about Valier a bit, though she's not innocent in my view she's looking a bit better than others: Naria to top the list, Mac, Farael are the others. Three people singing the same off beat tune with spurious logic as to why I'm guilty.
Bear with me, mormegil, but I can't see your logic. If the "main flow" is on the right track, you're right. The three will be pretty desperate indeed to save the wolf's neck. Would, even in this case, be the baddies be so scared to work in unison like you say they do and not maintain some distance?
What if the main flow isn't on the right track? In this case I can't believe the wolf and its cobbler would do anything which is in opposite to it. Only the lonely cobbler might.
And what if the main flow is led by a vocal and convincing wolf/cobbler? Staying with it will lead us directly into desaster in that case.


You're eager to whip up an anti-Eomer frenzy because you know how easy it is.Sadly, it isn't. As you are doubtlessly able to see for yourself, nobody is listening to me... :rolleyes:

[Lalwendë]

And in comes a curveball from the outfield:

I'm having suspicions about Cailin right now...

[Macalaure]

About Naria:

She voted mormegil when the vote tally was:

Cel-3, Val-4, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1

If she's the other wolf, she would have wanted to save Celuien. There was at least Rikae's vote still left, plus the constant danger that comes from retractions. Easiest way to save Celu: vote Valier. For reasoning, she could've practically just copy-and-pasted from the other voters. After Valier had been dead and perhaps innocent, people would have looked at Valier voters, which would have been a danger to Naria. But there are other votes for Valier (especially Lalwende and -surprise!- Eomer) whose votes were more suspicious.
Going for morm was a throwaway vote - always and automatically suspicious. It could have been a calculated risk of hers. Well, it immediately went wrong and then she voted Celuien. Why? Why try to avert a double lynch if you're guilty? To prove you're not in league with the wolf? Too late. That chance has passed.

Naria's posts are suspicious, I don't doubt this. But this voting behaviour just doesn't look wolvish to me. Convince me of the opposite and you'll have my vote. At the moment, I think she could be a cobbler, maybe, but they're not our primary aim.

[Cailín]

About Naria's vote: she voted by the time Celuien was under serious suspicion. Any vote not for Celuien would in hindsight be suspicious but a vote meant to save Celuien would be her on the first-to-lynch list without question: she was already suspicious. If the team indeed was Naria-Celuien (I am not convinced yet), a throwaway vote would almost be her best bet.

The voting does not condemn her, but it does increase my suspicion of her.

As to the cobblers… one of them by now is cast adrift and has not a clue anymore. The most that cobbler could do is throw a fit, confuse everyone or bide his / her time. The cobbler who knew Celuien's identity obviously did not vote for her yesterday and probably voted to save her. Ergo - this may make sense only to me - yesterDance's most suspicious vote is likely cast by Celuien's cobbler and I think it is far less likely the remaining wolf voted to keep their buddy in the game.

Naria is not Celuien's cobbler. Farael might be. He seems to have an air of desperation today. I am also considering him as the possible other wolf, to be honest. His vote for mormegil I find far more suspicious than Naria's even, who I think would -if innocent- simply enjoy suspecting Mormegil.

Of course, Macalaure's campaign against wonderful, lovely and irresistible Eomer is highly suspicious.

I still think Lalwende the Christmas Elf is a little dodgy as well.

Definitely innocent:

Eomer of the Rohirrim

Appear innocent:

Nogrod
Mormegil

Could be playing dangerous game:

Macalaure

Wary of (but could go either way):

Valier
Lalwende
Holbytlass
Folwren

Suspicious of:

Farael
Naria

[Valier]

*sigh* Well the Cobblers are doing a good job in confusing this here village. I was starting to get a feel for some players, but I keep getting these strange feelings that I am not looking in the right place....The possibility of Nogrod being the last wolf with Morm by his side as Cobbler, just keeps popping up in my head. I don't have much time today, but I will be here for the next hour and a half, before I vote, so I will see if I can justify my feelings and see if I can pick out the other confuser.

[Cailín]

Adding a little concerning Holby:

She has stayed in the background and not said much. Her votes were for mormegil and Macalaure. I did not previously find her suspicious, because her statements seemed correct and well thought-out, but if we are looking for someone who acts similarly to Wolf-Celuien, Holbytlass would be a likely candidate.

[Valier]

Dance3 votes

Mormegil-->Macalaure
Farael-->Mormegil
Naria-->Mormegil
Nogrod-->Naria


Yet to post today
Holby

Needs to talk more
Folwren
Lalwende

[Nogrod]

Okay. I only have a few minutes.

It's true that Celuien's cobbler was there yesterDance and should have tried to save her. So s/he would act only after s/he noticed things going wrong. The last votes (when Celuien had started to rise in the polls):

Macalaure-->Celuien (Cel-2, Val-2, Morm-1, Fol-1,Mac-1)
Valier-->Celuien (Cel-3, Val-2, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1)
Eomer-->Valier (Cel-3, Val-3, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1)
Folwren-->Farael (Cel-3, Val-3, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1)
Lalwende--> Valier (Cel-3, Val-4, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1)
Naria --> morm (Cel-3, Val-4, Morm-2, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1)
Rikae --> Mac (Cel-3, Val-4, Morm-2, Fol-1, Mac-2, Farael-1)
Rikae X Mac --> Celuien (Cel-4, Val-4, Morm-2, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1)
Naria X morm --> Celuien (Cel-5, Val-4, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1)

So if Celuien's cobbler is there, then we have only two baddies in the list of Naria, Valier, Farael, Macalaure (+- Naria). And Cel's cobbler could be anyone...

To me Naria's vote-change in the end looks most suspicious (in a sense of wolvery, not cobblery). She thought of throwing a cast away -vote and immediately realised the situation. Remember there was most probably going to be a double-lynch and Celuien was about to go. How would we have looked at her vote on morm then?

Okay. My vote stays.

I hope we get the last one toDance.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Maybe I'm just really biased, but that's another thing that I find suspicious about Valier. She begins a post just there with '*sigh* the cobblers are doing a good job in confusing the village'.

Why so worried? The remaining wolf is going to have to do a quite incredible job to win this game. Our chances of winning this are so high I don't think there's any need to *sigh* about how confusing it all is. Baddies tend to do that. "Oh! I've no idea what to do! It's all too much for me to cope!" I think it's a forced design to make her look quite innocent.

Also: while the main focus is indeed the final wolf, I hardly think we should skirt over suspicious characters because they appear more cobblery. So if we do lynch a cobbler, should we not rejoice? Blast those cobblers! I say we kill both of them first, and make sure they get their proper comeuppance, and then kill the wolf. If a cobbler survives these dark days then there should be no clemency afterwards! :p

[Farael]

Well, I've got to go now... is the dance really ending in 2 hours? if so, the X-mas spirit must be quieting many people down.

I do think that Morm is the last wolf. He's cunning and brave enough to try and vote for his fellow wolf and then if he happens to kill her ride the tide to the end of the game. I wouldn't put it past him at all.

So I stick with my vote. I've got to go now and I shan't be back 'till after the deadline.

Good hunt.

[Valier]

I assure you Eomer, my confusion is real. I was sighing because the more and more I read the more and more I become confused. I know I am suspicious just like everyone else, but all I was saying is that I keep having this nagging feeling... I never said that I was worried.

[Valier]

"Oh! I've no idea what to do! It's all too much for me to cope!" I think it's a forced design to make her look quite innocent.

Every think that it is not a design, but an actual reaction to the situation? And I never said that it was all too much for me to cope, I am here aren't I? Others may be having a hard time coping. :rolleyes: I just don't want you to think my defense about this is odd, I just wanted to stated that I was just posting what I was feeling at the moment. I am a bit confused. So I find if I do this it helps me figure things out.

[Cailín]

I must say I agree with the lynching of suspicious characters. We are at the moment 8 innocents against 3 villains, of whom two are almost powerless, pitiful creatures. Aside from myself, there are several people in whose innocence I am fairly confident.

Therefore:

++FARAEL

He may be our second wolf, but I am as certain as one can be in this game that he is at least a baddie.

Naria may also very well be a tricksy, fanged creature and I would not be sorry to see her lynched either.

[Macalaure]

Eomer of the Rohirrim:


First Dance:

86
Some cobbler theory. His points is that theory about them is okay, but actual accusations of cobblery are useless.
Rikae and Farael (and Cailín, of course) are innocent to him, he gives reasons
Kath, Valier, Naria and Lalwende are suspicious, no reasons

88+96
More cobbler theory

107
Accuses Nogrod of using his smilies as a tactic
Defends his cobbler theorism

117
Agrees with Nogrod to turn to more pressing issues
Jokingly accuses Holby of scaremongering

124
Votes his suspect Kath to avoid double lynching

125
Starts talking about the time near the deadline


Everything he says makes sense. He avoids to be aggressive or argumentative about his suspicions. His vote is reasonable. Perfect good guy.
Too perfect good guy to me, but this is just the first dance, and if you don't have a good argument against someone, it's better not to make one up.


Second Dance:

136
Apologises to Kath
Thinks Rikae and morm innocent because of Kitanna's death, doubts wolves would play so risky at this stage

183
Says Kitanna was killed because of her vote or voters
Reaches the conclusion that Valier is suspicious, mostly because she reached different conclusions than he
Believes Nogrod is innocent

197
Suspicious about Folwren because of her defense
Votes Valier saying: "Even if we fail today (mathematically probable) we have good stuff to look back on the coming days."


On its own, his suspicions or Valier are not suspicious. But at this time we have already two votes for and a devastating accusal by Nogrod of her. Eomer obviously doesn't want to upset too many people by being suspicious of them. The one he goes after is someone who is already on the list of many others. His suspicion of Folwren falls into the same category, I think.
Then there's the sentence I quoted. I've seen many a wolf saying things like that to not make people worry about a lynched innocent.


Third Dance:

226
Rhetorical questions about Naria (including use of smilies)
Says everything about her is suspicious

231
Asks Naria what I said that made her change her vote. Doesn't see anything revolutionary in what I said
Says he doesn't need to elaborate why everything about Naria is suspicious

252
Rikae's death is over-analysed
Defends himself against my suspicion, bringing the smilies up again
Says I'm scaremongering and trying "to whip up an anti-Eomer frenzy"

261
Says Valier's suspicious because of her confusion
Says that the remaining wolf has to do an incredible job, so there's no reason to worry
Thinks we should no longer distinguish between supposed cobblers and supposed wolves.


Again, he goes after the one who is already high on many people's radar. The way he does it is highly suspicious in my mind, using rhetorical questions and giving no solid reasons besides smilies. I wonder why he's trying to lead us away from looking at Rikae.
I think his last post goes over the top. Sure, our chances are pretty good right now, but there's surely no reason for us to be as careless as he wants us to. Especially not with two cobblers around.

I'm testing the waters with:

++Eomer

I hope somebody joins me, if not, I'll be looking for something else. I see a showdown between morm and Naria coming.

[Valier]

Ok so I will be here right till the end, my work is slow so I have more time. I am still trying to work this out, but my main suspects are. Nogrod, Mormegil, Farael, Eomer. I am pretty sure we will find all our bad guys in this group. Do we dare do a double lynch toDance? What do others think? There are still four people to vote and there is retractables. What say you all?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Oh I am definitely sticking around to try and get a double-lynching. Preferably with Valier and Naria but I'm all for lobbing Mac in there too.

I don't even know what to say about your analysis of me Mac, other than there's nothing suspicious in what I've done. It's almost as if you find me suspicious because I'm not suspicious.

[Valier]

I know there has been some suspicion around me todance Eomer, but enough for me to be a double lynch candidate? You say kill Naria and myself and if not you will just lob Mac in there? Wow that seems pretty fishy...are you a little jumpy for some reason? I would like to see Mormegil and Eomer go toDance. Does anyone else agree with this?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Weren't you prime candidate yesterday, until that late surge for Celuien? That means yes, there is enough suspicion around you to make you a double-lynch candidate.

[mormegil]

I willingly submit myself if Naria, Valier, Farael or Mac is my running mate. If I go I assert that Noggie is innocent.

--Mac

++Naria

She really is a key player in unravelling this mystery. She may only be a cobbler but I think she's likely a wolf. Mac is starting to sound a bit more sincere to me, which is why I changed my vote. Farael is tough because he usually behaves this way but it would be easy for a wolf Farael to behave the same way.

What I find most telling is that there are two groups in general terms. Those who think the four above are suspicious and those who do not. It is almost divided perfectly that those three or four do not suspect each other at all and I find that fact alone very telling. How is it that everybody else finds at least one of the three suspicous and the four don't find each other suspicious at all.

[Valier]

Fair enough Eomer. I do understand I am suspicious. If others wish me to die toDance, ok then, but I want Mormegil or you to go with me.

[Lalwendë]

Having mostly been quiet I have simply been reading today and judging from afar. And my (almost) silent vote goes on:

++Valier

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

More excellent points Mormegil. If you are evil then you are playing absolutely masterfully and probably deserve to win; but at the moment I do trust you and am considering you tied with Nogrod as probably innocent.

Could we have a treble-lynching? That would be a tasty write-up for the mod. :D

[Macalaure]

I'm not very fond of a double-lynch including morm. I really don't agree with everything he has said toDance, but I still feel him quite innocent.

I think his last point was very interesting.What I find most telling is that there are two groups in general terms. Those who think the four above are suspicious and those who do not. It is almost divided perfectly that those three or four do not suspect each other at all and I find that fact alone very telling. How is it that everybody else finds at least one of the three suspicous and the four don't find each other suspicious at all.
That division is very interesting indeed. However, since I'm regarded as being a part of one of the groups, I'd like to add that I am suspicious of Naria and Farael, just not suspicious of one of them being a wolf. If Naria is the one who has to go and she'll turn out a cobbler, I wouldn't be surprised, and it will most probably not change my feeling about Valier being innocent and Eomer being a wolf. I might refrain from thinking Nogrod a cobbler, that is all.

A double-lynching of Naria and Eomer might be interesting, whatever the outcome. Anybody interested?

[Naria]

I will stick with my vote for Morm. I have tried to contribute as much as I can, without as far as to do an indepth analysis on someone...which i don't do anyway, my comments have seemed to have fallen on deaf ears. All I have to say is this: I AM INNOCENT and the cobblers are doing an amazing job leading you all astray. :rolleyes:

[Valier]

Do we dare a triple lynch with Eomer, Morm and Naria.? This would clear up alot.

[mormegil]

Do we dare a triple lynch with Eomer, Morm and Naria.? This would clear up alot.

If we're going that route let's make it a quadruple lynch and include you. I would be satisified, though we have little time to do it.

[Macalaure]

Do we dare a triple lynch with Eomer, Morm and Naria.? This would clear up alot.
It will clear up a lot, but it will also practically seal our defeat if we are all wrong.

[Valier]

Ok agreed then Morm. If others are ok with it I will die alongside Morm, Eomer and Naria. If we all be innocents.....Well wouldn't that be peachy? :rolleyes:

[mormegil]

We need one more vote for Valier and one for Eomer so the four of us have 2 each.

[Valier]

If I vote for Eomer it is a three way tie. What if noone else shows up and votes? Noone here can change it to me and still make it a four way lynch.

[Naria]

Mmmmmpeaches

[Valier]

We need Cailin to retract or Holby or Folwren to show up and one of them votes me

[mormegil]

Naria is cracking.

Eomer is still around to vote for Valier.

[Valier]

Oh yeah!!! Eomer hasn't voted!! Ok I will vote for Eomer and Eomer votes for me? Would that make it a four way tie?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Plus there's the added fun of Valier and me tempted to ruin it all to save ourselves. :p

There are 11 of us. If 4 go and one tonight there will be 6 left tomorrow. With only one wolf remaining, why the hell not? If nothing else it will be a WW first (I think).

Although it gives more of us less game time.

[Valier]

So are any of us bluffing? I am willing to go with all four. So if someone else does show up they shouldn't vote?

[Naria]

hahahaahhaha blurp...anyone have an extra straight jacket layin around per chance? :D

[Valier]

++Eomer

[Macalaure]

Though this be madness, yet there is method in it.

[mormegil]

Only three minutes left by my view...are you two voting or not?

[Valier]

Well all three of you lynchees raise a glass and toast with me. May this massacre shed some light and bring this poor party some luck!!!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Fine with me. Although, if I am to go, I will seek you in the next life Cailín.

++VALIER

[Valier]

Eomer?? You voting?

[Valier]

Obviously I crossposted. CHEERS!!!!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

This had better be an honourable death. I don't want a stupid, pointless one...

[Valier]

Agreed Eomer!! You had better be bad!

[mormegil]

This had better be an honourable death. I don't want a stupid, pointless one...

Agreed, I was about to ask for the same thing but you beat me to it.

[Naria]

I want to be commited to a looney bin Durelin!! :eek: :D

[Valier]

*bites Nails*

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Well, we all accepted this a bit too easily. Maybe not Naria...

[Valier]

Either way.....Go villagers go!!!

[Durelin]

Mwahahaa! You guys all need to be commited to a looney bin! :D

*rubs hands together with glee*

Dance (Day) 3 is over.

Rest (Night) 4 has begun.

No more talking villagers. Wolf, I look forward to hearing from you.

Yes, the Wolf is still alive. And so are both the Cobblers.

It was a grand effort, though. :p

[Durelin]

The dancers were getting restless, particularly now that they saw the evil they faced was far from invincible and unstoppable. They wanted more blood to pay for what blood had already been spilt, they wanted vengeance, they wanted an end to the torment and the slaughter… It was judgment day.

So naturally, they had a dance-off.

While the band was nearing an end to their current movement, the guests were narrowing down their suspects…a bit. There were eleven of them left, each with their own ideas. Three nasty souls ate away at the party from the inside while the others were busily trying to catch them.

There were eleven of them left…and from them were picked the fateful four. The others called them the “four contestants,” and that seemed to sound good enough for those four to cooperate, even indulge in this opportunity to show off their mad skillz.

First up was mormegil, and he awed everyone with his rude break-dancing moves. Then it was Valier, who, for some reason, could do the chicken dance at the speed of light. Third was Eomer, who danced the Highland Fling atop a dangerously spiked war shield. Obviously he felt it likely the Werewolf had to be among the four. And last was Naria with her “Walk Like a Venetian,” which seemed to involve more kicking than any walk anyone had ever seen.

It was an exciting lineup, and the contestants certainly were excited: so much so that they did not notice the click of barrels loading.

But before the firing squad fired a single shot, one of Naria’s kicks ended in her shoe flying into the air, the sharp stiletto plunging itself into Eomer’s face. With a yell, his own footing was disrupted, and after slicing his ankle on it, the shield slid toward Valier, who was still shaking her tail feathers. She tripped on the heavy wooden slap and fell head first onto one of the metal spikes. Her beautiful plumage was destroyed in the process, and her beak snapped off her mask in the process, which shot straight into the neck of mormegil, whose spinning body came to a grinding halt.

Everyone watched as three more flames appeared in the chandelier above them. All eyes were now on Naria.

A freak stiletto accident…or a wolfish scheme?

“Oh,” Naria suddenly exclaimed, “there’s my shoe!” She wrenched it out of Eomer’s head and slid it back on her foot.

“She’s loony,” Lalwendë said, in shock.

Cailín stared wide-eyed at Eomer’s lifeless form.

Macalaure silently locked and loaded, his eyes on Naria.

She turned to him, giggled, and took off toward a conveniently placed window.

“You can’t catch me!” she cried.

A shot ran out, but Naria’s momentum drove her forward into a half-filled with winter-themed paperware trash bin. She would have been appalled if she was able to be anything at all anymore.

Another flame joined the eight already flickering on the chandelier.

And thus it would be recorded in memory and in legend, and no one would feel prepared to make judgment upon them; were they the four heroes…or the four stooges?


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The Dead Dead

Durelin (Mod and Hostess) – Ghostbusted on Rest (Night) the First
CaptainofDespair (Co-mod and Host) – Ghostbusted on Rest (Night) the First
Kath (Ordinary Villager) – Pinned and Labeled by the Mob on Dance (Day) the First
Kitanna (Ordinary Villager) – Minced, Placed in the Band, and Hardcore Harpsichorded on Rest (Night) the Second
Celuien (Werewolf) – Lassoed and Spurred by the Dancers on Dance (Day) the Second
Rikae (Ordinary Villager) – Trimmed and Bedecked on Rest (Night) the Third
Eomer of the Rohirrim (Ordinary Villager) – Stilettoed on Dance (Day) the Third
Valier (Ordinary Villager) – Highland Flinged on Dance (Day) the Third
mormegil (Ordinary Villager) – Beak Danced (hardy harr) on Dance (Day) the Third
Naria (Ordinary Villager) – Thrown in the Loony Bin on Dance (Day) the Third


The Living Dead

Farael as a Fair-looking Orc
Nogrod as a Nice Choirboy
Lalwendë as a (Mischievous Little) Christmas Elf
Naria as a Spoiled Heiress wearing a Venetian half mask
Macalaure as a Mime
Cailín as a Robin
Holbytlass as a Court Jester
Folwren as an Elegant, Cold, Stoic, Mysterious Countess



“You have been dying since the day
You were born
You know it has all been planned
The quartet of deliverance rides
A sinner once a sinner twice
No need for confession now
Cause now you have got the fight of your life”
~Metallica, The Four Horsemen

[Durelin]

So many had died by the hands of the villagers the dance before, and only seven of them remained now. Knowing well that they were running out of time and that soon there would be just as many wishing to do harm as not, the dancers were wary, eyeing not only their companions but themselves. Who could know if they would be next to feel the scraping of claws on flesh, or the crunching of teeth against breaking bone?

Holbytlass sat with her hands on her ears, Nogrod trying to preach to her the value of clean jokes and riddles.

Lalwendë joyfully poked fun at Macalaure, mocking his Mime-ness by stealing his invisible rope.

Farael, ever the fair orc, was showing Cailín how best to condition her feathers, so that they would shine to their best.

As the six tried to keep thoughts of what they knew happened during their rests out of their minds, they were brought out of the conversations by the realization that Folwren was missing. She had spent much of her time alone to begin with, her cold, stoic nature throwing off potential dance partners. Looking up, each saw yet another candle on the chandelier had lit up. They knew she had died. But how did she die? Where was the body? The wolves had always done something with the bodies to disgust and disturb the other guests.

The dancers each looked around, until at last they came to a large fountain in the corner of the ballroom. It was beautifully carved of marble and granite, the waters flowed from the gaping mouth of a great dragon that sat perched upon a false mountain. All six stood around it, for this was the last place they could look. Then, first as a trickle that was barely noticeable, and then as a flood, the blood of the stoic countess flowed out from the dragon’s belly. The dancers then knew where the countess had been stashed.

With a bit of poking around, the dancers then located a note hidden on the back of the dragon’s head. Although it was mostly stained in blood and shredded by claw marks, the last few lines were legible. They read: “And to that last moment of her life your Countess remained cold, caring for nothing, not even her own life. In our hasty discussion, she revealed that she found her imminent death to be an unavoidable necessity. She did not try to turn my decision. She was unmovable, as she is now.”
~The Barrow-Wolf

(by CaptainofDespair)

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The Dead Dead

Durelin (Mod and Hostess) – Ghostbusted on Rest (Night) the First
CaptainofDespair (Co-mod and Host) – Ghostbusted on Rest (Night) the First
Kath (Ordinary Villager) – Pinned and Labeled by the Mob on Dance (Day) the First
Kitanna (Ordinary Villager) – Minced, Placed in the Band, and Hardcore Harpsichorded on Rest (Night) the Second
Celuien (Werewolf) – Lassoed and Spurred by the Dancers on Dance (Day) the Second
Rikae (Ordinary Villager) – Trimmed and Bedecked on Rest (Night) the Third
Eomer of the Rohirrim (Ordinary Villager) – Stilettoed on Dance (Day) the Third
Valier (Ordinary Villager) – Highland Flinged on Dance (Day) the Third
mormegil (Ordinary Villager) – Beak Danced (hardy harr) on Dance (Day) the Third
Naria (Ordinary Villager) – Thrown in the Loony Bin on Dance (Day) the Third
Folwren (Ordinary Villager) – Stoned on Rest (Night) the Fourth


The Living Dead

Farael as a Fair-looking Orc
Nogrod as a Nice Choirboy
Lalwendë as a (Mischievous Little) Christmas Elf
Naria as a Spoiled Heiress wearing a Venetian half mask
Macalaure as a Mime
Cailín as a Robin
Holbytlass as a Court Jester



Rest (Night) 4 has ended.

Dance (Day) 4 has now begun.



“Hello
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone home?”
~Pink Floyd, Comfortably Numb

[Nogrod]

Now have you all gone mad?!!? :eek:

I mean what is this? I have never been a fan of double-lynchings, but to kill four innocents at the same time? C'mon!

*thinkingdesperatelyforaword todefinethefeelingrightnow*

Fools.

[Macalaure]

My goodness...

My... goodness...


I had a quirky feeling when the quadruple lynching came to be yesterDance. I was quite sure there was one, rather two baddies in the pack. I felt good about Naria, but her near-deadline behaviour was very weird and I expected Eomer to blink the last second and reveal his wolfishness by preventing it. This really is the worst possible case... :rolleyes:

Six people left.

Three innocents (including me)
Two cobblers
One wolf

Despite what Eomer said, this does simply not look good. Sure, we have two days and two lynching and therefore two chances left, but with two cobblers who might either lead the innocents astray or even sacrifice themselves, our chances are very slim.

Out of

Nogrod
Holbytlass
Farael
Cailín
Lalwende

there are only two innocents. It's weird, but it will probably be easier to single out who looks most innocent than to look for who's most guilty.

RL keeps me on a short leash, so I have to vote early toDance and can't promise to make it back before the deadline. So, I can't practice my own words when I say now that we should be very careful and considerate toDance.

Back later with some more thoughts.

[Nogrod]

So this is what we have left?

Farael as a Fair-looking Orc
Nogrod as a Nice Choirboy
Lalwendë as a (Mischievous Little) Christmas Elf
Macalaure as a Mime
Cailín as a Robin
Holbytlass as a Court Jester

And of these two are cobblers and one is a wolf? Which are the conditions for losing/winning? Durelin should give them to us. I mean: are we just doomed or actually screwed already? :(

[Holbytlass]

Sacrifice, a high cost
But the cause is not lost
We hang head, shed a tear
And the end may be near
Wolf may want to sink fang
But we will see you hang



ABOUT FOLWREN

Has this bit of a backandforthbanter with Farael
They vote for each other on day one
Folwren keeps voting for Farael in safe voting positions

PS: meant to ask the village what does "acting like Foley" mean?

ABOUT NOGROD
Nogrod Alreadysaw in Folwren and Macaluare what I'm seeing now. Is one of the loudes (now)t if not the loudest but with good analyzing skills therefore will not be surprised if he is the kill tonight

About Lalwende
Is going to be one on Farael's should have lynched earlier list. As someone had said, was very adament in pointing out that Rikae's death was to frame her (and others). All votes were for now known innocents and safe voting positions

About Macalaure
Macalaure smiled happily when he came past Celuien and proudly showed her the new rope tricks that she taught him before. He was about to continue credulously when suddenly a vision of his forefathers stroke him. He saw an ancestor of this Celuien lynching his own kin in times long past! Macalaure's face petrified in shock and in horror he withdrew from her
This could be seen as a cobbler hint to the wolf Ceuien. It seems to be too much to be coincidental.
First DANCE early on he finds wolf-Celuien innocent then they have banter about cobblers, then puts Cel-wolf on his "says least suspicion list" a safe position because she is amongst a handful of others.
Voted for 2 known innocents and wolf-Cel at a safe position of 7th voter but 2nd vote for the wolf-was the one to stick around and campaign against Celuien but I feel it's a huge bluff. What better position then to lead in the lynching of a wolf (and he would know being her cobbler) to get in good graces with the rest of the village to then help the other cobbler and final wolf at the end. A wolf victory is a team victory.

ABOUT CAILIN
She finds everyone to be innocent maybe because she knows all, but one, are innocent.
Actually, I don’t find her suspicious at all, but then that was how Celuien was at first perceived, up front with analysis and very calm. I tend to believe her innocent though.

ABOUT FARAEL
Is very straight forward and adamant about his plan, trying to be helpful to village
Could be something there between him and Folwren but I think Folwren to be the guilty one


Farael
Nogrod
Lalwende
Macalaure
Cailin
Folwren

Someone will die tonight and I’m left with trying to find hands of the other two TRUE innocents, but I know that more likely as I extend the baddies will grasp.
Both Folwren and Macalaure seem to be giving Celuien cobbler hints. Now they both can’t be her cobbler

Folwren and Farael have some sort of back and forth thing going on. I tend to think Folwren is guilty but is Farael? I want to believein his innocence because I think him to be trying to help thi village in his bulldog sort of way(Farael).

I think the bluff that Macalaure is doing is plausible.

Lalwende ic flying under the radar. But I know only 3 are bad.

I can’t help to feel right about Nogrod, he has said what I’ve gleaned as I was catching up to this DANCE, and somewhat Cailin. Eru help me if I’m wrong.

I’m skimming through and I think I’m right in saying that Mormegil was the first to mention the mass-lynching, is there anyone that stands out as wanting (or egging it on) to happen that wasn’t the four?


P.S. Now that Folwren is dead, o'course will have to rework the theories.
And be careful, it's easy to think of the four as foolish with 20/20 hindsight. I applaud their courage.

[Durelin]

Yes, yes...always either winning or losing... Well, the Wolf has not won until only he/she and one other dancer is alive, or if the Wolf and the two Cobblers are the only ones left alive. Just so it's nice and straightforward. If toDance you do not kill the remaining Wolf, you Innocents may get a little something just to keep things interesting...and...going...

So, keep playing. Baddies: don't figure you've won. Innocents: don't despair.

The game's not over yet.

[Nogrod]

Okay Macalaure. Let's settle this as well as we can. I know you have to leave early and so let's get down to the bussiness - as I would think it highly unethical to try to settle this one-sidedly while you're away.

I'm most astonished that you're alive after what you did to Celuien. I really am. But I'm also a bit confused that I myself continue living. It's not impossible that the wolf changes tactics according to the general mood - and all the time enjoying the innocents tearing each other apart.

So either you're a backstabbing wolf or then the wolf plays with us both?

What say you?

I'll dive into the yesterDance's late moments for a while but will be looking forward to your comments...

[Macalaure]

No time for big analysis, but these are my feelings:

The wolf goes for the quiet/misguided/trailless ones. S/he is obviously not scared of crafty players like Nogrod. This means that, a) Nogrod is the wolf, b) Nogrod is a cobbler and the wolf knows, c) our wolf has a lot of guts and trusts his/her cobblers to lead people astray.

I don't think I will be voting Nogrod toDance, because he's too great a loss when innocent. If I survive this day and night, I will be looking very closely at him, but not now. I remain highly suspicious.

Holbytlass has been looking fishy to me all the game. Her recent theory about me is the most far-fetched thing I have seen in a long time (no offense :p ). I think she is a cobbler, if not something worse.

I have very little doubt that Farael is a cobbler, most probably Celuien's one.

Lalwende is new to the game, but she already beats mormegil in secretiveness. If I had time I would to an analysis of her, but alas!

Cailín looks somewhat innocent, but I'm not sure.

[Nogrod]

c) our wolf has a lot of guts and trusts his/her cobblers to lead people astray.Notwithstanding the chance that you're the wolf here this seems to me the most likely one. But who could that be then? Cailín, Holby, Lalwendë? I do not agree with you that Holby's points on you were "most far-fetched", though...

I think I need to reconsider Lalwendë seriously now, or maybe Cailín; no one has actually suspected her so far seriously (as we have not suspected Holby or Lal either). Maybe it's time we end this first showing tenderness and start really looking at what Lal has done so far...

Mac: I don't know how long you will be online, but I'm afraid I have a point or two that makes me suspect you the most at this moment. Check to begin with what morm and Eomer had to say of you to get a hang of it. I try to be as fast as I can but as a non-native speaker it takes a while to complete my post about yesterDance...

[Macalaure]

You make me wonder, Nogrod. Even if you don't agree with my last point on Holby, why do you dismiss her possible guilt without much comment? What makes you feel better about her than about Cailín or Lal?

[Nogrod]

Morm and Eomer were the two people here I had began to trust somewhat as they acted relaxed enough and had good points (from my point of view eg. suspecting the same people I was suspecting). I'm really sorry they're gone and I had no chance to meddle in the last voting because of my London-friends (RL).

I also must admit that I greatly suspected Naria and Valier. I had some bad memories of those two playing together just a short while ago. And they looked suspicious to me. Obviously they weren't the baddies.

But a few points from yesterDance then.

Naria to top the list, Mac, Farael are the others. Three people singing the same off beat tune with spurious logic as to why I'm guilty. [...] if you take the general feel of those three or four I promise that at least two of the three are in there likely all three.It's not the first time in this game I agree with him exactly. Now Naria is gone and she was innocent. So that leaves Mac and Farael. Farael has played too bluntly to be a wolf. His vote on morm yesterDance I think particularly telling here. I regard him as a cobbler now if nothing else comes in to the horizon - and thence would not advise to lynch him without better arguments as we need to get the wolf here. But Mac then?

Anyway, I noticed in Celuien's post #94 that she makes use of the :) Funnily enough, Mac does that in post #232 and #239. All when trying to pacify potential adversaries. Desperate to appear friendly? It's something I've seen before and it flushed out a wolf. (Bad memories )

Anyway, I think that point, as trivial as it may seem, is far more substantial than anything Mac has raised against me. Yet I am apparently his top suspect. Of course, as Mac himself admits, there's nothing wolvish about me, and there's nothing I've said that he can point to and say 'Look at that!' But still.

Know what I think, Mac? You're scaremongering. You're eager to whip up an anti-Eomer frenzy because you know how easy it is. When you repeat the assertion that I am very suspicious, but without any semblance of a reason why — other than that I'm supposedly playing like Celuien (?) — it makes me wonder. Now why would Mac do such a thing as an innocent villager? It doesn't sound like him anyway.

Naria is not Celuien's cobbler. Farael might be. He seems to have an air of desperation today. I am also considering him as the possible other wolf, to be honest. I noted the same desperation there but would disagree with his status still. He's a cobbler. I'm pretty convinced of it. He wouldn't have made such a number of himself and his plan if he were a wolf. I really trust him to be the cobbler (of Celuien). If he is a wolf you should grind me to a mincemeat then... (sorry about another Finnish idiom)

Okay. I changed my mind and will post this before I get to see the rest of it, just to give Mac a chance to answer even these few points. I would hate losing an innocent Mac... but this is all under making... sorry.

[Nogrod]

You make me wonder, Nogrod. Even if you don't agree with my last point on Holby, why do you dismiss her possible guilt without much comment? What makes you feel better about her than about Cailín or Lal?Nothing. And I don't think I said anything like that anyhow... I would keep an open mind here to all directions - what else can we do?

[Farael]

What were those four thinking... we went from "moderately successful" to "in dire need for help". We've got two chances to nail that sneaky wolf, and it would be rather favourable if we got at least a cobbler today. The 'lucky' thing is that the wolf might help us out and get a cobbler tonight (toRest) as s/he does not know who they are. He might guess, but we can hope that he'll get it wrong.

If Macalure is the remaining wolf, that's good news, since he thinks me a cobbler... thus even if he gets one cobbler right, he must think the other is an ordo. It would also explain why I've survived thus far, even though I haven't been exactly vocal the last two days.

ToDance RL might cut me some slack... but then, it might not. My friend who lives in Montreal is visiting here and so if he calls me up...

But I'm here now, and I have a few thoughts to share with you all.

Lawlende has been hiding behind two masks. Yes, she's been very silent, which upsets me since now it's too late to lynch someone on those basis alone. But then, there is something else. Everyone is "cutting her some slack" since she's rather new to this game but... am I mistaken or is this her second or third game? I've seen some players excell from game 1.... I've seen some that took a little more time to get used to the tricks of this game.... but I've never seen someone take two games to say anything of value. And we know she's intelligent, so it's not like this whole thing has gone way over her head.

I think that Lawlende has something to hide, but I'm thinking she's a cobbler. A wolf can't risk being THAT silent.. she must've known that sooner or later we'd suspect her, and this plays right in the hand of the wolf. While getting a cobbler is much better than getting an ordo, at this point in the game we should be trying to get the wolf or nothing. We won't have many second-chances.

But then, who IS the wolf? I'm inclined to think Nogrod Innocent, or cobbler at the worst, so IMO he's not the wolf. Macalure is definitely an option, although he might be the other cobbler if my theory about Lalwende is off.

I just found out that Cailin is playing... I honestly can't recall reading more than two posts by her. Yet I'm not as suspicious of her, perhaps because I have not enough material to form a suspicion, but nonetheless I think her a silent ordo.

I just noticed something
My goodness...

My... goodness...
Note how he italices the "good" in the second "goodness". IF that's not a cobbler hint, I've never seen one. To me, that's saying that he thinks it "good" what happened last night.

Now folks, if you agree with me I will say do not lynch him If we know him to be a cobbler, the best thing we can do right now is ignore him.

Remember, we have two lynchings left and three baddies. IF we waste a kill on a cobbler, that means that we have only one kill left to actually find the wolf. So for now, I suggest we all ignore Macalure and concentrate on finding the wolf.

My suspects at this point on the day:

Lalwende: Possibly a cobbler, but maybe a wolf
Macalure: Cobbler, almost certainly
Cailin: Too silent to know either way.

Those I won't try to lynch right now
Nogrod I think him innocent, and definitely not a wolf. If he's a cobbler, hats off to him, but if I know Nogrod at all, he's just an ordo.
Holbytlass speaks little but what she does say makes sense to me. At this point in the game you just can't suspect everyone who doesn't talk enough, so I'm choosing her as an "ordo". At least for now.

[Macalaure]

It's not the first time in this game I agree with him exactly. Now Naria is gone and she was innocent. So that leaves Mac and Farael. Farael has played too bluntly to be a wolf. His vote on morm yesterDance I think particularly telling here. I regard him as a cobbler now if nothing else comes in to the horizon - and thence would not advise to lynch him without better arguments as we need to get the wolf here. But Mac then?morm's theory, as much as I liked it as well (wouldn't have agreed to the quadruple otherwise), is out of the window since both Naria and Valier are innocent. I think we should think anew and look aside of yesterDay's doomed path. It was rather unfruitful in hindsight, wasn't it?

Now why would Mac do such a thing as an innocent villager? It doesn't sound like him anyway.Don't know what you mean exactly. You're using smilies the same way. ;) I don't know what he meant with scaremongering, since I think I was just suspecting him in a regular way. :confused:

[Farael]

I have cross-posted with Nogrod and Macalure... I'm sad to see I'm thought of as a cobbler. If you think about it, Celuien's cobbler has no reason to despair. If anything, he has to be extra-careful not to get the wolf to kill him at night. Why would he despair, if he can still win if the other wolf wins?

I still don't suspect Nogrod over it... I can understand his reasoning, I just don't share it. Not only 'cos I know I'm not a cobbler, but also because it makes no sense for either cobbler to despair. YesterDance there was still a lot of game to be played, and even worse, today the game seems to be in control of the baddies. Think me a cobbler if you must, but at least read my last post carefully. I think I might be on to something, specially with Mac's italized good.

[Macalaure]

Mac thinks Farael to be cobbler, Farael thinks Nogrod and Holby innocent

Should Mac now think Nogrod and Holby are evil? Hmm...

Or is it the other way around? Is Farael using reverse psychology... or reverse reverse psychology??

[Nogrod]

Think me a cobbler if you must, but at least read my last post carefully. I think I might be on to something, specially with Mac's italized good.Yes you might... and we really should read it carefully! Like:

Note how he italices the "good" in the second "goodness". IF that's not a cobbler hint, I've never seen one. To me, that's saying that he thinks it "good" what happened last night.

Now folks, if you agree with me I will say do not lynch him If we know him to be a cobbler, the best thing we can do right now is ignore him.So the cobbler Farael defending the master here? Do not lynch him, he's only a cobbler? Not bad, not bad... Either you have fooled us to believe you were Celuien's cobbler and in fact are Mac's cobbler, or then you just sense it? Right?

Needs to think about this...

[Macalaure]

Something else:

If we lynch an innocent today, there will be (most probably) one innocent, two cobbler and a wolf left tomorrow. Village loses.
If we lynch the wolf, we win (naturally)
If we lynch a cobbler, we will probably have two innocents, a cobbler and a wolf tomorrow. With double lynchings, this is a fair chance.

What I'm saying is: If in doubt, go for the cobbler. Just don't lynch an innocent.

[Farael]

Nogrod you have just made me laugh

Have you not realized what I said? We have TWO lynches left and THREE Baddies. Should I spell it out for you?

If we lynch someone whom we believe a cobbler, and then at night the wolf gets an ordo, that leaves us with only ONE chance to get the wolf. It'll be wolf or nothing.

If we are fairly sure whom a cobbler may be, as I am of Macalure then it is on our best interests to ignore him and try to find the Wolf with our two remaining lynches. Remember that the cobbler alone loses... if fwe get the remaining wolf, whether toDance or tomorrowDance, we win. If we don't, no matter if we get both cobblers, we lose.

So what would you rather do? go after someone who's very likely a cobbler, or give yourself a chance to find the wolf?

[Farael]

If we lynch a cobbler, we will probably have two innocents, a cobbler and a wolf tomorrow. With double lynchings, this is a fair chance.

Fair chance for what?

Two ordos, a cobbler and a wolf:

We get the wolf, we win.
We get an ordo, the wolf may kill an ordo or the cobbler at night, but even if he gets the cobbler, only an ordo and the wolf are left the morning after
We get the cobbler, the wolf kills an ordo at night, same scenario.

Hey, wait... Macalure said that with a double-lynch there is a fair chance but.... how do you organize a double-lynch when half of the players are baddies?

This makes no sense, the cobbler will either vote for whoever the wolf votes, or he will vote to protect the wolf at the last minute. The only chance we have is that, by luck, both ordos vote for the wolf... but how likely is that?

No, to organize a double-lynch you need to have the cooperation of at least half plus one of the players, to be able to counter-act the best efforts of the baddies. If the village is divided, half and half, then a double lynch is impossible.

Are you trying to lead us astray, Mr. Macalure?

[Nogrod]

Funny that you two (Farael & Macalaure) are the ones here to give us a lecture on maths. I think we all can count...

But why are you Mac crying for going after the cobbler in a situation where we have at most two lynches to go for? Go for a cobbler (and not the wolf)? How more anti-innocent could you get? It's that time of the game when the cobbler should perform her/his duties for the master (even by suicidal means) and for the master to save her/himself. I'm all the more believing Mac is the one we are looking for. I'm wishing to get a return from Mac and thence wish to make these claims now. Later on it would be nasty to go after him this straightly (still hoping you Mac could convince me of your innocense).

My thoughts of Farael being a cobbler and Mac being a wolf kind of gets more wind under it (another Finnish idiom, sorry) as I see these two. But there should be a connection (or the noteworthy nonexistence of one). We need to look at it before we vote.

And funny as it is, look at the following: This makes no sense, the cobbler will either vote for whoever the wolf votes, or he will vote to protect the wolf at the last minute. The only chance we have is that, by luck, both ordos vote for the wolf... but how likely is that?So a he? Well, how do you know? My forefather lost a game where he was definitively winning because the mod slipped a sex in the pronouns... So you Farael were already thinking what you would do?

But what you say Farael in the end is true: managing a double-lynch is hard with three baddies from six. But not so impossible as you let us believe! Two will oppose a plan that is right, clearly, but the third would not be so sure (and in the best case the wolf would not know her/his cobbler yet - so shattering even more the line of the baddies). So we should gather all the three of us under the same banner and rally around it. Possibly we will not kill but one villain toDance but the voting record should be really interestring to see the next Dance for those who are still living...

We need to study a thing or two before we make our decisions. I'll promise to do some of them, but hopefully you others will help.

[Macalaure]

Time to vote.

Farael still seems cobblerish to me. But though I wouldn't mind seeing him gone, I think I will not vote for him.

I won't vote Nogrod, too, even though I don't trust him too much. I need better reasoning to do that.

I suspect Lalwende, but at this point, a vote for her from me would be a horrible shot in the dark.

Cailín still looks quite innocent. I may revise my opinion tomorrow with better thought, but I won't vote for her today.

This leaves me with Holbytlass. Cailín said before that she is playing very safe and I agree. Her one post today also does not look good to me. There are only two innocents among you and I don't think it's her.

Not with a good feeling, but with the best that I can bring myself to:

++Holbytlass


Good night and good luck.

[Nogrod]

I suspect Lalwende, but at this point, a vote for her from me would be a horrible shot in the dark.

This leaves me with Holbytlass. Cailín said before that she is playing very safe and I agree. Her one post today also does not look good to me. There are only two innocents among you and I don't think it's her.I'll promise to you to check these two out before I vote!

[Farael]

Sorry Nogrod but I'm afraid that in Spanish (my first language as you all know) the way of refering to someone of unknown sex is by the masculine... so an unknown is a "he". I try to write s/he or him or her or what ever, but sometimes things like that slip.

Call it what you want, you are a he as well.

[Nogrod]

Call it what you want, you are a he as well.Yes I am. It was just so frustrating to my grandfather to lose a game because the Mod slipped the sex... I might be oversensitive about these matters because of that (it was actually the argument by which my forefather was lynched when he was a baddie). But I can't help noting these "slips" now...

[Lalwendë]

Holbytlass has been looking fishy to me all the game. Her recent theory about me is the most far-fetched thing I have seen in a long time (no offense ). I think she is a cobbler, if not something worse.

Hmmm. This interjection of 'no offence' suggests that Mac and Holbytlass are not in cahoots with one another. Therefore, one is good, one bad. They are not a pairing of cobbler/wolf.

You make me wonder, Nogrod. Even if you don't agree with my last point on Holby, why do you dismiss her possible guilt without much comment? What makes you feel better about her than about Cailín or Lal?

Mac challenges Nogrod for dismissing bad feelings about Holbytlass. Honest or bluff? But then Mac goes on to challenge myself and Cailin, two people who have been thought of in a good light. Mac could be seeking a new direction (especially after that big lynching), which indeed is something I agree with, or he could be seeking to steer everyone towards new scapegoats.

ABOUT CAILIN
She finds everyone to be innocent maybe because she knows all, but one, are innocent.
Actually, I don’t find her suspicious at all, but then that was how Celuien was at first perceived, up front with analysis and very calm. I tend to believe her innocent though.

ABOUT FARAEL
Is very straight forward and adamant about his plan, trying to be helpful to village
Could be something there between him and Folwren but I think Folwren to be the guilty one

Two very revealing comments. Folwren is/was of course innocent, so why say this? I think this is a bluff about Farael (who is also beginning a campaign against me). Cailin has of course been extraordinarily well protected throughout the game and continues to be. Which is very fishy.

I'm watching Holbytlass and Cailin right now. And also Mac, to decide upon guilt or innocence.

[Lalwendë]

Farael is also suspicious having read through some old posts. Repeated cries of 'lynch the quiet ones!'? And now banging the drum for not going after cobblers? That smacks of changing strategies.

Farael is not a wolf - why would a wolf mollycoddle a cobbler? But Farael may well be one of those people who mends old boots...Of course, given comments about quiet ones, Farael cannot be Cailin's cobbler. Could be Holby's though...there are few mentions of her name...if any. Diversionary tactics?

Looking back too, Mac seems for too 'random' to be a wolf or cobbler.

So that will leave Nogrod for analysis...

[Lalwendë]

Oh 'eck, a triple posting. But I have just had a thought. Yes, I do have them sometimes...

We have one person who we ought to be able to easily identify now there are so few of us. And that's the cobbler for the surviving wolf! This cobbler knows who 'their' wolf is. They don't know who the other cobbler is. The wolf does not know who the cobblers are, either of them.

In theory, if we can identify who that cobbler is, they should lead us to the wolf.

So who seems to be defending someone else? Either outright or by deflecting comments and suspicions subtly?

[Nogrod]

In theory, if we can identify who that cobbler is, they should lead us to the wolf.

So who seems to be defending someone else? Either outright or by deflecting comments and suspicions subtly?Nice to see you are getting the grip of this! :D

I'm sorry to repeat myself here but as it seems reasonable, I'll do it. Mac is urging us to go for the cobbler: What I'm saying is: If in doubt, go for the cobbler Hello! We have only one Dance left if we don't manage it toDance! Let's go for the wolf, I say. If Mac is a wolf, he would love to try make us think like he suggests. And look how Farael defends Mac after he had gotten some suspicion: If we are fairly sure whom a cobbler may be, as I am of Macalure then it is on our best interests to ignore him and try to find the Wolf with our two remaining lynches.So ignore Mac and lynch some others? Well why do you wish to not-lynch someone? Because a cobbler Farael wishes us to save his master Macalaure?

Even as I dislike double-lynches, I might like to see the one with Mac and Farael. At least the moment it looks like our best chance.

I need to go asleep, but toDance I will be back and remain online in the end. I also hope to have time to check both Lal and Holby, and also Cailín before I vote. We need some more information and if anyone of you has time I would welcome your help with it. It's a bit of a workload to do these all by oneself (see yesterDance).

[Cailín]

Eomer…

… why?

There are no words dramatic, painful and bitter enough for this tragedy. There was no need. No reasoning. And yet he was forced to die in the interest of the village: and how noble he appeared when he decided not to act in self-interest, how bravely did he accept this dreadful, undeserved fate.

And for what? For what? *weeps*

Now you expect me to reason, to use cold-blooded logic and find the final wolf? Ooh, how could I? It is too much.

++ Cailín

…

…

But no. I must be strong. Those evil, demonic, treacherous creatures responsible for my beloved's untimely death should pay before I join him in the afterlife. And they shall.

-- Cailín

*sigh* We will meet again, dearest.

***

I feel quite clueless and back at ground zero today. There are three baddies against three innocents. Our advantage is that the baddies do not know one another, except for the final wolf's Cobbler. Lalwende is right: this cobbler could lead us to the wolf and would be a great catch, but the only problem is we will never know for sure who he or she is before the end (unless we force a full confession, but that seems impratical) and all in all it seems much safer to look for the wolf. Maybe the cobbler who knew of Celuien's true identity is as lost as we are and supporting the wrong candidate. Our primary disadvantage here is that the innocents do not know each other at all.

I wish that there was someone to trust, but after yesterdance's slaughter, I just don't know anymore. That neither Naria or Valier turned out to be cobblers or fanged… I was stunned. I knew Eomer and Mormegil were innocent: or at least, was almost 100% certain. I am not sure what drove them to the madness of yesterdance's proceedings. It was reckless.

At the moment, I am inclined to trust Nogrod. Indeed - I am rather surprised he is still alive and this makes me a little suspicious, but he has not alarmed me at all these past few days and today continues to be calm and logical, analysing and describing all different scenarios. I am going with a gut feeling here.

Farael… I am surprised that so many loudmouths are still around. What I am thinking is that Folwren was chosen because the wolf was nearly certain she was not one of the cobblers. It is evidently in the wolf's best interest to keep the cobblers alive as long as possible. This theory seems to point in the direction of Farael - Folwren voted for him two dances ago and was highly suspicious of him since the start of this ball of doom. Then again, would a wolf really be so obvious as Farael? I do not know. It sounds unlikely, but not impossible.

I was almost convinced Farael was a cobbler yesterdance, but his posts today have confused me on this issue again. Still, I do not trust him.

Lalwende… tricky. I found most of her posts obscure before, but am nodding along with some of it today. If she, as a newbie (you must be tired of hearing this, Lalwende, so I do apologise) is the final wolf, well done to her. I am not dismissing her from my suspect list, but she has recently - and especially yesterdance - been silent so it is hard to pass judgement on her.

Macalaure is extremely ambiguous. I suspect him - rather strongly - of cobblerism and even possible wolvishness at the moment. His attack on Eomer yesterdance does not sit well with me (and for more than just personal reasons). Again, I feel he is going for the likely prey today, as he did before and before. Yes, I will not forget his hand in Celuien's death, and this does clear him to a certain degree, but what I did not believe of Mormegil, I could believe of Mac.

Holbytlass is also a little obscure. As I said yesterdance, her playing style reminds rather strongly of Wolf-Celuien's style. She manages to fly under the - or my - radar (I think it is something she is famous for). I cannot, though, find strong evidence for her furriness. She could as easily be completely ordinary and innocent as wickedly evil.

So who out of these five is the wolf?

I confess, I have no straight answer.

I would favour a lynching of Farael or Macalaure today, though I am swaying beyond belief. Both seem suspicious, too suspicious to be innocent.

Let's avoid a double lynch in any case, Nogrod. If we fail to find the wolf, this will doom us no matter the turn out. At least - I think it best.

[Cailín]

Oh and Nogrod: I am sorry you have to do all analysis by yourself. I am usually no good with long sum-up posts, nor do I take particular pleasure in making them, which is why I gladly leave it to others. :o However, I will probably have some time tomorrow to look through everyone's posts.

[Farael]

And look how Farael defends Mac after he had gotten some suspicion: So ignore Mac and lynch some others? Well why do you wish to not-lynch someone? Because a cobbler Farael wishes us to save his master Macalaure?
Noggy, you are being obtuse here.... it's the same thing you've proposed!! Don't go for the cobbler, try to get the wolf!!! I'm not defending Macalure but tell me... do you trully believe him a wolf? If you do, by all means lynch me and him... but I say he is a cobbler, thus we are better off lynching someone else!!

You know my playing style from many games, and you know I don't mind getting killed if it's indeed what's best for the village, but double-lynching me today will pretty much seal the baddie's victory, unless you lynch me along the werewolf. And since I believe Macalure to be a cobbler, Lynching him and me won't work.

Lawlende has talked but I don't see her saying much... Cailin has posted little, but I think she's had something to say. I feel a bit better about her now, but I'd like to hear some more from her anyway.

[Holbytlass]

ABOUT CAILIN
She finds everyone to be innocent maybe because she knows all, but one, are innocent.
Actually, I don’t find her suspicious at all, but then that was how Celuien was at first perceived, up front with analysis and very calm. I tend to believe her innocent though.

ABOUT FARAEL
Is very straight forward and adamant about his plan, trying to be helpful to village
Could be something there between him and Folwren but I think Folwren to be the guilty one
Two very revealing comments. Folwren is/was of course innocent, so why say this? I think this is a bluff about Farael (who is also beginning a campaign against me). Cailin has of course been extraordinarily well protected throughout the game and continues to be. Which is very fishy.
This was my write up before this Dance started. I only had time to post this and saw that Folwren was dead and therefore I was completely wrong about her.

Even though I am a quiet villager, I'm glad to see the quiet ones also being looked at because at the beginning of this Dance it felt reminicent of yesterday when the loud ones just pointed fingers at each other.

One thing that's odd, and I will have to go back and check exactly-but wasn't some of the people who thought yesterday's mass lynching are now saying to go for a double lynch?

[Holbytlass]

Dance1
Morm --> Rikae, 1
Kitanna --> Morm (Rikae 1, Morm 1)
Farael --> Folwren (Rikae 1, Morm 1, Folwren 1)
Morm X Rikae --> Valier (Morm 1, Folwren 1, Valier 1)
Cailin --> Kath (Morm 1, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 1)
Celuien --> Morm (Morm 2, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 1)
Lal --> Kitanna (Morm 2, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 1, Kitanna 1)
Folwren --> Farael (Morm 2, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 1, Kitanna 1, Farael 1)
Mac --> Kath (Morm 2, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 2, Kitanna 1, Farael 1)
Valier --> Farael (Morm 2, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 2, Kitanna 1, Farael 2)
Rikae --> Kitanna (Morm 2, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 2, Kitanna 2, Farael 2)
Holby --> Morm (Morm 3, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 2, Kitanna 2, Farael 2)
Nogrod --> Kath (Morm 3, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 3, Kitanna 2, Farael 2)
Eomer --> Kath (Morm 3, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 4, Kitanna 2, Farael 2)
Naria --> Rikae (Morm 3, Folwren 1, Valier 1, Kath 4, Kitanna 2, Farael 2, Rikae 1)

Kath did not vote.

Dance2
Mormegil-->Celuien (Cel-1)
Cailin-->Valier (Cel-1, Val-1)
Farael-->Mormegil (Cel-1, Val-1, Morm-1)
Celuien-->Valier (Cel-1, Val-2, Morm-1)
Nogrod-->Folwren(Cel-1, Val-2, Morm-1, Fol-1)
Holbytlass-->Macalaure (Cel-1, Val-2, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1)
Macalaure-->Celuien (Cel-2, Val-2, Morm-1, Fol-1,Mac-1)
Valier-->Celuien (Cel-3, Val-2, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1)
Eomer-->Valier (Cel-3, Val-3, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1)
Folwren-->Farael (Cel-3, Val-3, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1)
Lalwende--> Valier (Cel-3, Val-4, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1)
Naria --> morm (Cel-3, Val-4, Morm-2, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1)
Rikae --> Mac (Cel-3, Val-4, Morm-2, Fol-1, Mac-2, Farael-1)
Rikae X Mac --> Celuien (Cel-4, Val-4, Morm-2, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1)
Naria X morm --> Celuien (Cel-5, Val-4, Morm-1, Fol-1, Mac-1, Farael-1

Dance3
Morm-->Macaulare (Mac-1)
Farael-->Mormegil (Mac-1, Morm-1)
Naria-->Mormegil (Mac-1, Morm-2)
Nogrod-->Naria (Mac-1, Morm-2, Nar-1)
Cailin-->Farael (Mac-1, Morm-2, Nar-1, Far-1)
Macaulare-->Eomer (Mac-1, Morm-2, Nar-1, Far-1, Eom-1)
MormegilXMacaulare-->Naria (Morm-2, Nar-2, Far-1, Eom-1)
Lalwende-->Valier (Morm-2, Nar-2, Far-1, Eom-1, Val-1)
Valier-->Eomer (Morm-2, Nar-2, Far-1, Eom-2, Val-1)
Eomer-->Valier (Morm-2, Nar-2, Far-1, Eom-2, Val-2)

No vote:Holby, Folwren

I know it's only 3days of votes but seeing as we're near the end maybe something odd will stand out

[Lalwendë]

Now to Nogrod. He calls for a double lynch. I don't agree. This is far too risky. We have three innocents, and so there is a high chance we lynch two of them, and then the third would be popped off by the wolf, game over. If we single lynch then we will be guaranteed a chance (especially as only one cobbler has wolf-knowledge). Double lynch we may only have a 50:50 chance. Single lynch, we have a 1:6 chance. I think. Not good at maths!

Nogrod has voted for Kath, Folwren, Naria. All got wolfed down or lynched.
Farael has voted for Folwren, Morm, Morm.
Cailin has voted for Kath, Valier, Farael. (Celuien and Cailin had identical voting patterns until Celuien was bumped off, then she takes up Folwren's fondness for voting for Farael).
Mac has voted for Kath, Celuien, Eomer.
Holby has voted for Morm, Mac and has a spoiled ballot.

We have had votes from:
Nogrod - No-one
Farael - Folwren, Cailin.
Cailin - No-one
Mac - Holby, Morm
Holby - No-one

Mac cannot be a wolf, as even a wolf would not go along with the groundswell of votes for 'fellow wolf' Celuien. So he's innocent. That leaves one more innocent to find. I think Cailin was Celuien's cobbler, so it's not her. Looking at voting patterns (which we would not expect necessarily to match exactly, but which may follow on) I think Holby may be the wolf, and Farael her cobbler.

[Cailín]

Silence, and only one and a half hour left before voting.

I read through Lalwende and Holbytlass posts, but this did not radically change my opinion on either.

Reading over today's posts, some odd things said by Nogrod jump out.

1) He suspects Macalaure

2) He states losing an innocent Mac would be a bad thing, which I have heard him said repeatedly over the past few days.

3) He advocates a double lynch.

A double lynch is obviously not very much in our advantage today. Unless we are certain we get the wolf, it would be silly. And tonight's kill, should the wolf live another day, might be very telling. None of us have been silent today, or have not at least spoken their mind. A no trail-kill is impossible. Again, the wolf will want to avoid killing his or her cobblers. I think we will be able to make a far stronger case tomorrow. Of course, I also hope we get the wolf today and end this insecurity, but a double lynch is, as Lal says, far too risky.

Then, Nogrod, losing any innocent today - not just Macalaure - would be very bad, no matter the skills of the player involved. We need all the innocents we can get now. The lynch of a cobbler would not doom us, but the lynch of an innocent gives the wolf a near-certain victory.

What I was thinking is that Mac might be the cobbler for the other, remaining wolf… so not necessarily an innocent. I agree that he is definitely not Celuien's cobbler and it is unlikely he is the last remaining wolf. Not impossible, but improbable.

I am not so certain of Nogrod's innocence anymore as I was at the start of this dance.

But mainly, my sentiments have changed little since my last post - unless it is that I am more suspicious of you all. Also, considering the voting patterns, Lalwende seems the most likely cobbler for Celuien.

[Nogrod]

Okay. Back again. My modem jammed and after an hour's work I gave up and came to my mother's place...

Now to Nogrod. He calls for a double lynch. I don't agree.Actually I'm not. I should have made myself clearer then. I was referring to the actual idea by Mac and said that my double-lynch choice would be Mac himself with Farael... There should have been a smiley or something after it I suppose. :)

But as you said Lal, it sounds a bit too risky.

I'm going to try and have a look at Holby now.

[Nogrod]

one said aloud to be more heard
"Will the Fenris wolf step forward?"Just a moment. This is from Holby's first post. Is there a Fenris wolf still among us living? I mean someone who has been a wolf and Died on Day1 lynching? This could be acobbler trying to contact her wolf (if there actually is one Fenris around)? Any knowledge?

[Nogrod]

Mac cannot be a wolf, as even a wolf would not go along with the groundswell of votes for 'fellow wolf' Celuien. So he's innocent.I'm not sure if I understood correctly what you meant here, but I see no reason why Mac would not have gotten his fellow lynched. You see why? Just because of the feeling it arouses in you ("he must be innocent").
1) He suspects Macalaure
2) He states losing an innocent Mac would be a bad thing, which I have heard him said repeatedly over the past few days.Okay. Let's make me a cobbler then, with Mac, and Holby, and Farael, and Lal, and you...

Let's get the wolf instead, please.

At the moment I think it could be Mac, but I will have to think about it yet (and try to finish my look on Holby who at least for the time being looks more like a cobbler :( ).

[Holbytlass]

Just a moment. This is from Holby's first post. Is there a Fenris wolf still among us living? I mean someone who has been a wolf and Died on Day1 lynching? This could be acobbler trying to contact her wolf (if there actually is one Fenris around)? Any knowledge?
Good grief, I hope not because that was done in jest and song.

I can see where each of you look wolvish. And my head is spinning.

Macaulare with the plausible (to me) bluff of distancing himself from Celuien.

Lalwende with being on the quiet side-does put forth theories and ideas but has a 'newbie shield' that would be good protection for a wolf

Farael with turning topic from wolf hunting to getting rid of quiets

Cailin is definitely under the radar, did someone actually not know she was playing?!

Nogrod just by being cool and collected-a bit 'too good to be true' sort of thing

Macaulare
Cailin
Lalwende
Farael
Nogrod

That's my list in order of most suspicious on down

[Nogrod]

Well, I must confess that I didn't become much wiser by looking at Holby. The only one thing that actually caught my eye looked cobblerish and is somewhat interesting if you look at the target. Macalaure, good thing we can read minds like the elves otherwise by the very nature of your chosen occupation you would say the least and be the first to dieBut careful, yes. That she has been and as Cailín suggested, most similar to the way Celuien played: not saying much, avoiding all things controversial - and as I'm getting the "vibes" now, going with the current winds. Who knows?

But this I think is even more interesting. I didn't remember this: ABOUT FOLWREN
Has this bit of a backandforthbanter with Farael
They vote for each other on day one
Folwren keeps voting for Farael in safe voting positionsWhat I mean? When there are less people around it is quite important to have such ones around who do not consistently vote or suspect you. Also it is imperative to not raise too much discomfort around with others (as they might vote you). It's so neat a balance now that one bad feeling of someone wishing to try you out may result in that person getting one's vote - even if that is done in good faith to help see who's actually furry or not.

So Farael actually could be the wolf too. A bit reckless, possibly, but that is a good cover also.

[Holbytlass]

++Macaulare

[Nogrod]

Okay. My top three now for lycantrophy.

Mac: killed a fellow to gain trust, wishes us to go for a cobbler or a double-lynch instead of the wolf, strongly covered by Farael (who then might be the cobbler). A strong suspicion. I kind of believe he's the one we should go for.

Farael: trying to lead us astray all the time and lately trying to play like a cobbler as we have been of the opinion that we should not waste our lynches on cobblers... If Mac is innocent, then it might be Farael.

Holby: for playing like Celuien; easily, nonconfrontationally = safely. Not a good case, but a possible one.

[Nogrod]

Everyone holding back now? Let's be careful with the last minute frenzy as the cobblers are around. They - and the wolf - would love the confusion.

++ Macalaure

Given with hopeful confidence.

Mac --> Holby
Holby --> Mac
Nogrod --> Mac (Holby1, Mac2)

Three left.

[Cailín]

Your suspects are similar to mine, Nogrod. I suspect Farael the most (of both wolvery and cobblery), with Macalaure as a secondary wolf-candidate (though I suspect him more of cobblery than wolvishness). Lalwende and Holbytlass I am just too unsure about - though I think Holbytlass marginally more suspicious than Lalwende, purely based on general behaviour - and my trust in you has not completely vanished.

Farael not posting makes me even more suspicious. I am expecting him to jump in at the last moment to attempt to save himself or his wolf.

[Nogrod]

Farael not posting makes me even more suspicious. I am expecting him to jump in at the last moment to attempt to save himself or his wolf.That's what I'm afraid of too...

[Farael]

Farael not posting makes me even more suspicious. I am expecting him to jump in at the last moment to attempt to save himself or his wolf.
Funny thing, I just got here... I've got to read all that was said since my last post, and I'm preparing lunch while I'm at it for me and my sister.

I'll try to get back with a vote.

[Cailín]

Cross-posted with Nogrod there. I am tempted to hold back indeed, as I fear the cobblers may be retracting, revoting and all that evilness during the last few minutes. I am also worried that if I add a vote for Farael now, a wolf or cobbler may jump up in happiness and seize the opportunity to clinch a double lynch.

The only way to avoid this seems to be...

++ Macalaure

He was not my first candidate, as I still cannot fully believe he is a wolf, but I am nearly certain that he is indeed a cobbler. This will at least buy us another day and two telling deaths.

[Farael]

He was not my first candidate, as I still cannot fully believe he is a wolf, but I am nearly certain that he is indeed a cobbler. This will at least buy us another day and two telling deaths.
Answering this before I have a chance to read all that was said

Let's suppose that (as I'm fairly sure) Macalure is a cobbler

Tonight odds are the wolf gets an ordo so we are left with

Wolf
Cobbler
Two ordos

Tomorrow if we kill anyone but the wolf, the game is over since:
If we kill an ordo there's only one ordo and two baddies left
If we kill the cobbler, the wolf kills an ordo at night, thus we are left with wolf and ordo the following day.

Therefore I find your vote rather suspicious... killing Macalure does NOT give us another day.

This is a wasted kill, but right now I've got no-one better to propose so I'll go read and pray that you guys are still around if there's a better person for lynching

[Farael]

Well, I think that we are wrong by lynching Macalure say what you want of a cobbler protecting his wolf, I can assure you that's not the case.

To me, Macalure is one of the two cobblers and lynching him plays right into the wolf's hand

I have not had time to do enough "reading" so I will vote for the only other person with a vote, in hopes that at least one of you two will change your vote.

++Holbytlass

At least she's a mildly suspicious incognito, therefore there is a better chance she'll actually be the wolf.

[Holbytlass]

killing me gives us nothing

[Farael]

killing me gives us nothing
Says who?

[Nogrod]

-- Macalaure

[Durelin]

It was a jovial English country dance, the dancers weaving in and out delicately but purposefully, switching partners dutifully if only to get a closer look at their teeth: specifically their canines. Everyone knew it should be a funeral dirge, and had no doubt that the final march would come soon. The end would come, and either the dead could be buried by those very lucky, very few left alive, or all but one would serve as trophies in a victory, two gladly sacrificed and so dusted more regularly.

One sat the dance out. The others glanced at her rarely, and either with sympathy or with annoyance, as her sobs nearly overcame the music.

“My poor Eomer, my…”

Nogrod made sure sharp objects were kept away from her, and everyone simply assumed it was because he was that fatherly type.

Suddenly, an argument broke out. Apparently someone was stepping on some toes, though there were only four guests actually dancing.

“You Cobbler, Farael,” the Mime exploded before he could stop himself.

“Aha!” the Orc cried, “So you’re not really a mime, are you? Cobbler!”

“Now, now, boys,” Nogrod parented, but did not leave Cailín’s side. She wailed once more dejectedly.

“Don’t get into this, old man,” Farael snapped, “We’re going to do this my way, because we haven’t been doing it my way so far, and so far we’ve been losing, so we’re going to do it my way.”

“Uh…no,” Nogrod responded lamely, but his eyes lit up as if a revelation hit him. The gleam was short lived, and no one seemed to notice.

“You fool, Farael! We don’t do it your way, we do it the right way,” Macalaure mimed frantically.

Holbytlass was not impressed by his logic. “Can’t we finally get rid of this mime?”

“What about getting rid of the jester?” Macalaure questioned. “She’s just as useless.”

Nogrod heartily agreed with them both, and naturally, with Cailín.

“Yes, your charade is up, Wolf, Cobbler, or whatever you are,” the harmless, grieving Robin said, “The evil ones will pay for what they did to my Eomer!”

It seemed a miracle. Farael settled his differences with Macalaure and agreed with him that Holbytlass should die.

“She’s been stealing your spotlight, man,” the Orc told the mime friendlily, putting an arm across his shoulders.

Nogrod’s fatherly instincts, which he did not extend to Macalaure, seemed to cause him to console Holbytlass, or simply keep her from attacking Farael and Macalaure in anger.

“It’s okay, my dead…I mean, dear jester. You have but two against you, and the mime has three.”

Holbytlass felt a little relieved, and let out a sigh.

But then Nogrod spoke again, “Unless of course I change my mind.”

At that moment, Holbytlass and Macalaure took their last breaths.

Farael began punching holes in Macalaure’s throat with his hand punch (http://www.davistownmuseum.org/pics/tjd1002.jpg), and Nogrod plunged his lasting pliers (http://www.davistownmuseum.org/pics/30202t1.jpg) into Holbytlass’s neck.

Cailín rose up with laughter, and her womanly features and diminutive, feathery costume was replaced by thick fur, pointed ears, claws, and sharp teeth, as her laugh transformed into a growl.

“Yes, those villagers have paid for what they did to my Eomer,” she spat.

Then suddenly there was heard a small, sweet voice upon the air…

“Together, together, together everyone
Together, together, come on lets have some fun
Together, were there for each other every time
Together together come on lets do this right”*

Lalwendë wandered back into the ballroom, belting it out with much post-Christmas cheer. But when she came upon Cailín-Wolf and the bloody mess at her feet, her voice died in her throat, and all that emerged was a strangled gasp.

“Oh.”



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*“We’re all in this Together” from High School Musical

[Durelin]

“Alright, fellas, let's go!

Oh it's been getting so hard
Livin' with the things you do to me, aha
Oh my dreams are getting so strange
I'd like to tell you everything I see
Oh, I see Farael at the back
As a matter of fact his eyes are red as the sun
And Cailín in the corner let no one ignore her
'Cause she thinks she's the passionate one

Oh, yeah, it was like lightning, everybody was frightening
And the music was soothing, and they all started grooving

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And Celuien at the back said
Everyone attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz
And Cailín in the corner said
Boy, I wanna warn ya, it'll turn into a ballroom blitz
Ballroom blitz, ballroom blitz, ballroom blitz
Ballroom blitz

I'm reaching out for something
Touching nothing's all I ever do
Oh, I softly call you over
When you appear there's nothing left of you, aha
Now Nogrod in the back
Is ready to crack as he raises his hands to the sky
And Cailín in the corner is ev'ryone's mourner
She could kill you with a wink of her eye

Oh yeah, it was electric, so frightfully hectic
And the band started leaving, 'cause they all stopped breathing

~“Ballroom Blitz” by Sweet, minorly and poorly edited by moi.

[Farael]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA WOOOOOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Oh Noggie you are my hero... for a moment you had me thinking you an ordo and all

Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce to you....

Celuien's cobbler

And kudos to those of you who gessed it.

Alas, my play last day was not desperation, but rather me in a hurry with a crazy theory, as it'd be expected from me.

[Naria]

Can we post here now Durelin? Or do you want us to wait for your narration?

[Durelin]

Oh, sorry! Yes, yes, post away. I'll get the narration up sometime soon (I'll just edit it in)...though possibly not until tomorrow.

Now, start the gloating and a new kind of accusations. :D

[Cailín]

Nogrod...

I thank you.

;)

[Farael]

By the way, let's see if my guess was right

Nogrod as Lalwende's cobbler?

Edit: Guess it was Cailin instead.

[Holbytlass]

killing me gives us nothing
Says who?
stupid me, I forgot it gives you the game :rolleyes:-at myself :mad: :D

Farael was Celuien's cobbler
the other wolf and cobbler?

[Rikae]

Well, that was impressive. I certainly didn't guess it.

Of course, if there had just been more time, Cai might have been caught! What on earth were you villagers thinking with that quadruple lynch? :eek:

[Celuien]

Mwhahahahahaha. :D

Farael, Noggie and Cailin, that was amazing to watch toDance.

Great game, everyone. :)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Considering who was evil, I was disadvantaged from the start, what with that oath and all...

Very well-played. :)

[Nogrod]

Nogrod...

I thank you.

;)At your service milady! :D

What fun!

And thanks Farael, your help was vital!!!

I was eating my nails as I waited you to do it!

[Rikae]

Eomer, I thought Farael was YOUR cobbler, when I looked back at all that cobbler theory early on.
I seem to be a popular target for wolves lately.
in the future, I will try to make myself more suspicious! :D

[Lalwendë]

I knew Mac was innocent!!! And I've been suspecting Cailin from days ago!

Darn. I shall not attempt to be logical next time, but go with my feelings instead! :D

I did enjoy that. Now I know what you've all been raving about and it's good! Cheers all!

[Farael]

At your service milady! :D

What fun!

And thanks Farael, your help was vital!!!

I was eating my nails as I waited you to do it!
I know, I just wanted to time it properly because Holby was around and I wasn't sure about Cailin.

My friend, if we had known each other's identities and been allowed to plot together, I don't think we could've done any better than what we did... excelent game!!!

[Lalwendë]

Farael, you scoundrel, suspecting poor old me! :D

Hey, I was the last villager? :eek:

[Holbytlass]

I hate you

Actually, I hate myself for liking you both.
I can't believe it's over. I think dying after one is dead is not good for the soul.
Should've known something was up when Nogrod retracted but didn't vote me.

Lalwende, what happened? I'm not complaining, after all I wasn't there at all 3rd dance but how come you didn't vote?

[Cailín]

Edit: Guess it was Cailin instead.

You sound almost disappointed to hear it, Farael. Perhaps because I had you all figured out and still went after you? ;) I am sure you understand my reasons.

Yes, Lalwende, I was very worried about your suspicions, but thankfully, you never acted on your gut feeling. I have often found instincts get you further in this game than logic, but this might because logic confuses me in general.

Eomer, I am truly sorry.

I will confess that I suspected Macalaure to be my cobbler, because of something Celuien pointed out when she was still alive to aid me, until he got Eomer of the Rohirrim lynched, who indeed would have been at a terrible disadvantage because of certain promises. After that, I thought (and hoped) it was either Nogrod or Holbytlass.

[Durelin]

Cailin and Eomer - I pitted you two against each other on purpose. I'm sorry, I really didn't think Eomer would stay perfectly 'loyal' till the end... :p

[Farael]

You sound almost disappointed to hear it, Farael. Perhaps because I had you all figured out and still went after you? ;) I am sure you understand my reasons.
Disappointed? no, not at all!! and why would I mind you going after me? it's the right thing to do, same as why I argued with Nogrod and yet never trully went after him!!

[Holbytlass]

Congratulations!!

I was hoping the wolves would win, there seems to have been alot of village wins lately. Up until I got my role as ordo and then, well, you know...things change.

Now Farael, I have double the greivences against you and should've went after you in the beginning but I, as a gentle jester, let bygones be bygones but no more!! I also was caught up in the whole plan of doing something about quiet ones. Weird since I am a quiet one-notoriously.

I hope to see the wolves' nightly strategies. And also any tidbits from the cobblers. Well, played.

Durelin, Captain, great modding! Can't wait to see the end deaths.

[Nogrod]

I will confess that I suspected Macalaure to be my cobbler, because of something Celuien pointed out when she was still alive to aid me, until he got Eomer of the Rohirrim lynched, who indeed would have been at a terrible disadvantage because of certain promises. After that, I thought (and hoped) it was either Nogrod or Holbytlass.I was afraid of you believing Mac to be your cobbler when I came back for the last hours... And all the hints I threw at you!!! :rolleyes:

But all's well that ends well! :)

And thank's Farael again! If we had been sure about each other we would have not played this well!

[Lalwendë]

Lalwende, what happened? I'm not complaining, after all I wasn't there at all 3rd dance but how come you didn't vote?

I know. You can squarely blame Disney Corp for this. I had just chucked an M&S quiche in the oven in the midst of receiving my shopping delivery and intended to eat and then put me vote up officially, but multi-tasking failed as that High School Musical came on the telly and I was transfixed by the cheesiness. Don't think I'd have made a difference anyway.
:(

[Farael]

By the way, I'd like to commend Durelin on an excelent game idea!! Two cobblers sure added to the fun of the game :p and I'm not saying that 'cos I was one of the two.

[Celuien]

I was really surprised that no one suggested Mac was Cailin's cobbler. There was definitely something in his first post that had me thinking he was trying to signal her, especially since they were so similar during the first dance.

A lighthearted and soothing voice the mime then perceived and turning to its source he saw Cailín, a robin, singing a song that would put Middle-earth's greatest nightingales to shame. Delighted and with new strength of heart he continued the last stops of his inquiry.
Everyone else caused some sort of negative reaction when came to say hello.

Alas! I'd have liked to stay around for more than one night. My debut as a wolf was short lived. That Mormegil... I still haven't quite figured out how I went from not really being suspected by most of the dancers to being lynched.

By the way, I was telling the absolute truth about Kitanna when I posted my analysis.

[Celuien]

Oh. I'd originally written our pick of Kitanna into nine lines of blank verse, but it was lost in the Downs PM system so no one got to see it. I'll try to reconstruct it later.

[Naria]

What on earth were you villagers thinking with that quadruple lynch?
We were thinking, "hey wouldn't it be nice to get into some kind of werewolf history book?!"
Seriously though, I have no idea Rikae! I was literally going crazy as I watched what was happening.

To the cobblers...well done both of you. I had some suspicions about the two of you, but having a theory in ones head is alot easier than taking that theory and typing it into sensible chatter(see, I may have done that right here) :eek:

To the wolves....... :p hehe

To all the rest of the Dancers...masks off to you all. :D

To Durelin and CoD....great game! I absolutely loved it!!!!

[Folwren]

So... baddies won? Dang. I have never been so disappointed in a game's finish. I feel possitively crushed and...defeated.

I have to say, it was fantastically played. All of you evil ones. Sheesh. Farael, I disliked you from the very beginning and now I know why. :rolleyes: I really did suspect you. Nogrod, excellent job. You acted so your normal self - and managed to keep the highlight off the bad ones!! You really had me spooked when they brought your whole case against me that second dance or so...

Cailin, great job as a wolf. I only had a glimmer of a doubt after I was dead, and then it was too late. I'd say you were lucky.

Celuien, your cowgirl character was too cute. I didn't think you could possibly be one and when you turned out to be one, I was almost as surprised as I was when I (finally) figured out that four people were lynched that dance that I was gone the whole day of. Oh, heaven that I had been there at least for voting!

Speaking of - what induced you guys to do that??

Good job, everyone. I congratulate the evil ones for their win.

-- Foley

[Kath]

I've been following this since death and all I can say is kudos to the winning baddies! I'm not sure so many have ever survived by the end. :D

But :eek: to that quadruple lynch! Masterfully orchestrated but doomed to end in failure. Still, it'll certainly go down in the record books, even if Durelin was laughing her head off as she read it! Speaking of which, great modding Durelin and CoD.

Don't know about anyone else, but this has seriously renewed my interest in werewolf, bring on the next game!

[Durelin]

Thank you everyone for playing, and making this an awesome game!

I had way too much fun modding this.

I'm really glad everyone had fun (well, I hope everyone did), and I hope to see you guys in another game soon.

Personally, I don't think I would have had nearly as much fun if you guys hadn't pulled the quadruple lynch. That was just amazing.

I think the awesomeness of the villagers and the baddies evens out, personally...even if some of what made you villagers awesome was also part of your downfall. :D


Oh. I'd originally written our pick of Kitanna into nine lines of blank verse, but it was lost in the Downs PM system so no one got to see it. I'll try to reconstruct it later.

Oh no! Has that really been lost? :( And it's my fault!

[Rikae]

Durelin, it was a great setup for mayhem! Awesome game. Reading over the posts now, I'm kicking myself because the wolf/cobbler hints seem so obvious ... hindsight's 20/20.

Don't know about anyone else, but this has seriously renewed my interest in werewolf, bring on the next game!I second that!

[Macalaure]

So, so... Nogrod was a cobbler...

For some reason this completely fails to surprise me. :p

It drove me utterly crazy. I felt you were a cobbler since the first day, but I just kept suspecting you because I wanted to back it up with some solid reason.

(Note to self: Never try to bring Nogrod down with reason. It's - just - not - possible.)

Excellent work though. I still can't believe so many people were convinced of your innocence.


Do you want to know what made me so certain about Celuien?

It was Kitanna's death. She died in the first night in the last game I was in, too. *washes hands in innocence - mwahaha* I couldn't believe anybody would be so cruel as to do it again after so short time, so I looked for people who did not play in that game and therefore probably didn't know. Out of those, Celuien and, well, Eomer looked most guilty to me.
Then I obviously must have forgotten my plan in the hectic of yesterday and voted Holby instead of Cailín...
By the way, I was telling the absolute truth about Kitanna when I posted my analysis.Still this analysis was extremely suspicious to me. You told the truth, but the truth was basically that there was nothing to be told. It was looking helpful without being helpful at a very high level. :D


Before I forget: Excellent game, Cailín. Did you really think I was your cobbler? When I wrote my first post, I more or less ran out of possible suspicious reactions after a time. That was the only reason why yours was so positive. :)


PS: I received an unsigned rep for the game (emphasizing my instincts on Celuien). Not that I would mind, but I'm reeally curious right now.

[Rikae]

PS: I received an unsigned rep for the game (emphasizing my instincts on Celuien). Not that I would mind, but I'm reeally curious right now.

Ooops! :D


~Rikae

[Celuien]

Oh no! Has that really been lost? :( And it's my fault!
Well, I should have remembered to save a copy. Cailin's box also turned out to be full at the time, so I don't have it.

It went something like this:

Why do the blameless fear the starless night?
'Tis under shield of dark when curséd deeds
Are done. There are no prying eyes to see
The guilty wolves attack, and nighttime shields
Their horrid plots. And so tonight 'tis doomed
That fair Kitanna, hapless maid, shall fall.
In darkness she shal dwell forever more
And to the shadows sing her tale of woe.

That's not quite it, but it was similar. Anyway, it's a line shorter, which considering the quality of my poetry is probably a good thing. :D

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Tricksy, black-hearted moderating. :p

I'm somewhat glad it didn't come down to the oath, which would possibly have been far more glaring had there been a Seer. Even in the face of irrefutable evidence I was not to vote for her. Can you imagine the village being defeated in that way? You would all have flown to Scotland to tear me limb from limb!

So yes, Durelin, I am completely loyal. ;)

Incidentally, I still think the quad-lynch was a fair option. Had I spoiled it at the end I might have been lynched the next day anyway (for daring to survive). We would most likely have lynched Valier and Naria and possibly Mormegil in the days after.

Benefits? It gets all those suspicious characters out of the way in one go, affording the wolf one subsequent nightly kill instead of four. It is an extra few deaths selected by the village, not the wolf.

Cons? Less voting record to mull over. Instant shock to the village system if it goes wrong (which it did).

While it was great fun, this game brought up the old double-lynching debate. I think the game is more fun when the village loses 1 person a day and 1 at night. What's to stop us discovering a known innocent and then arranging a mass lynch of everyone else to ensure victory? The game loses so much. That's exactly why Anguirel's first 'Heroes' game ended disappointingly. The village (island?) was able to double-lynch its way to victory without experiencing all the treachery, deceit, manipulation and fun that Werewolf deserves.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: double-lynchings, in general, detract from the game.

[Folwren]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: double-lynchings, in general, detract from the game.

Thanks for voicing your opinion. I'll remember that for my game... And if I allow double lynching, it will be two at most.

-- Foley

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I was actually kept awake last night by worrying about how inappropriate my last post was. Especially considering the drama the mass lynching caused. I think the point was that, when we're not allowed to play the numbers game or focus on statistics, the village discussion is more focused on the individual characters themselves.

Say, it was really a bit lazy of us 4 to just kill ourselves without having to make a choice between us.

But obviously I sounded a bit negative when there was the fun of the mass lynching, as well as the skill of the cobbler in utilising the double-lynching to seal the victory.

Meh. :D

[Durelin]

Yes...well...the thing with double lynching is that I just enjoy a good slaughter. :p

Oh, and the two Cobblers idea was actually all CaptainofDespair's, so don't give me credit. :D

And sorry that the narration still isn't up. Both my parents got sick (which adds a little more insanity to my life), and I've been feeling under the weather as well... At least know that I shall be working on the narration before I work on my essay that's due Wednesday, for certain. ;)

Thanks again everyone for making this such an awesome game!

[Durelin]

Final narration, essentially in two parts, is finally up.

[Nogrod]

Great one, Durelin! I really appreciated how you caught the proceedings!

And as I think I haven't have the time or the opportunity to say this out aloud yet, so a couple of special thanks to follow just to make the cases...

Macalaure: You're just phenomenal with your instincts and reasons! Great gaming here. After the quadruple lynch you were the one I was most afraid of. Hopefully we're at the same side in the next one. :)

Folwren: I "knew" you to be innocent, you looked so much that! So sorry again my campaign on you but it was proved worthwhile drawing attention to the places we needed the attention to be drawn...

Farael: My friend in villany! Just an outstanding performance! And you didn't let me down on those last minutes but made our victory possible with your vote on Holby! I'm going to trust you a lot more in the following games just for the memory of this great swindle!

Cailín: Even though my "hints" didn't seem to reach you, you were playing beautifully on the thin line between being inactive and steering the votes to directions we needed to accomplish this. Outstanding, I would say!

Lalwendë: Good instincts and points for a first game! I really would like to see you on further ones!

And kudos to you all fellows in this! This was one of the most unforgettable ones I've ever played!

Hooray!