Tolkien Events 2008

[Lalwendë]

Oh yes, like Christmas, some things come around earlier each year ;)

In the latest Amon Hen we have been told that next year's Oxonmoot is an Uber-Moot. It will last from Thursday to Sunday as an extra-special treat. And it will be at Christ Church, the rather posh college which not only houses Oxford's cathedral but the Hogwarts dining hall as seen in the films! Plus it's perfectly located in Oxford, right in the heart of all the colleges, overlooking the Meadows, next to Merton and the Botanical gardens etc.

It will be on the last weekend of September next year. Mmmmm, around my birthdayses...

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Sounds SUPER cool, lal. Thanks for the news. If this year's O-M goes without disaster or death on my part, I'll most certainly go. I expect it will be slightly more expensive, though, eh?
Still, it will probably be excellent. An extra day of TOLKIEN GEEKERY can't be bad.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

The German Tolkien Seminar will be held in Jena from April 25 - 27 this year. The Hobbit will be the topic of lectures from various international speakers, covering a great variety of aspects. Over half of the lectures will be in English, and the seminar itself does not cost anything, so if any of you are interested in coming, please check out the German Tolkien Society page (http://www.tolkiengesellschaft.de/347/programm-tolkien-seminar-jena-2008/#more-347) for the programme.

Anke Eismann has again provided the illustration for the invitation; here (http://anke.edoras-art.de/cgi-bin/drawings.pl?file=plakat_seminar_08_72.jpg) it is. (Sorry, the file was too large to upload directly.)


(And yes, some of you may recognize the name of one or more of the speakers...)

[Thinlómien]

Esty, when I tried to open that image it opened a page with a picture that said "stop, image locked".... :confused:

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

The German Tolkien Seminar will be held in Jena from April 25 - 27 this year. The Hobbit will be the topic of lectures from various international speakers, covering a great variety of aspects. Over half of the lectures will be in English, and the seminar itself does not cost anything, so if any of you are interested in coming, please check out the German Tolkien Society page (http://www.tolkiengesellschaft.de/347/programm-tolkien-seminar-jena-2008/#more-347) for the programme.

Anke Eismann has again provided the illustration for the invitation; here (http://anke.edoras-art.de/cgi-bin/drawings.pl?file=plakat_seminar_08_72.jpg) it is. (Sorry, the file was too large to upload directly.)


(And yes, some of you may recognize the name of one or more of the speakers...)

Esty, you know what? Lots of the lectures indeed seem to be in English... and I just checked the map and Jena seems not too far from the border... soo... if I managed to organize the things for myself, then... :cool:

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You're right, Lommy - I just tried and the same thing happened to me. Then just check out Anke's site; it's her latest post, and if you click on the image you can see it larger. Here's the link: http://anke.edoras-art.de/anke_home.html

Legate, that would be fantastic! I was at the last two seminars, and they are really interesting. Besides, there aren't hundreds of people there, so it's not hard to get to know others. And I hope I'm no stranger for you! Jena is indeed in eastern Germany, so if that's not far for you, it would certainly be worth the effort. I'm not sure what the lowest-priced accommodation is - probably a youth hostel - but if you want help finding something, let me know and I'll ask around.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well if it did not seem interesting to me, I wouldn't have thought about it in the first place :) I have never been on an action like this outside my country, and this is a good opportunity to start. How many people are usually around there, anyway?
Concerning my coming there, like I said - I have to check everything and ensure that it is possible for me to organize it, but if you can help me in any way, it will be most appreciated. Maybe through some PMing we can discuss this more... and no, you are not a stranger to me, or at least I don't count you as one :) And of course if I go there, meeting you is without question.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Booking for next Oxonmoot will be open soon, apparently. But if I remember last year aright, saying 'soon' meant 'three months'. :D
I wonder, how many Downers will be coming? I'd like to know how many copies of my special Newspaper to print off and other things.

Also, in reaction to a terrible injustice that happened last year, I'd like to invite as many Downers as possible to bring biscuits and tea for the welcome buffet that we had to PAY FOR last year. I want to set up a separate table with FREE, good quality, biscuits and such, as a protest against what I saw as a terrible occurrence. Making people PAY for biscuits, it's not natural, I say! ;)

[Mithalwen]

but the June Seminar looks very interesting and I shall try to go to that ....

[Lalwendë]

I'm afraid it will be too expensive for us. I nearly had a coronary when I saw the prices listed in Amon Hen. :eek:

£35 registration
£180 for a bog standard room (with no bog ;))
£400+ for a twin en-suite (which is what we'd need)
£25 for the Friday banquet
£15 each for the other meals

Then chuck in the £60-£70 for travel and times it all by two...

It might well be in the 'Harry Potter' college but I'd have to raid Gringrott's to justify expense like that now. :(

[Mithalwen]

I'm afraid it will be too expensive for us. I nearly had a coronary when I saw the prices listed in Amon Hen. :eek:

£35 registration
£180 for a bog standard room (with no bog ;))
£400+ for a twin en-suite (which is what we'd need)
£25 for the Friday banquet
£15 each for the other meals

Then chuck in the £60-£70 for travel and times it all by two...

It might well be in the 'Harry Potter' college but I'd have to raid Gringrott's to justify expense like that now. :(

Expense is a factor for me .especially factoring a day holiday - I shan't stay in college -or at least not that college. I can't justify three nights accommodation when I shan't go to the evening do on opening night and won't go to Enyalie. Either I shall day trip, stay one night maybe at Keble again - if the ents are going to be an improvement ... or check in at the travelodge. I thought the food prices were outrageous last year and made my own arrangements.

For £400 you could probably rent a flat for a week....

[Lalwendë]

I can't believe the cost of the rooms when you can get B&B (with parking and your own toilet) for at the most £70 for a couple on Abingdon Road. We might stretch to it if we choose to do that and at least we would get a decent night's sleep! The meals are a bit outrageous too. I know of at a cafe directly opposite where £15 would buy you a fine feast for two.

I certainly wouldn't want to subject the poor child to the 'ents' - they might traumatise him ;)

Whereabouts is the Travelodge?

[Bêthberry]

For £400 you could probably rent a flat for a week....

Or everyone get together and rent a time share condo, lots of space, lots of bedrooms. I assume Oxford has those?

I really enjoyed the B&B we had in York, was clean, comfortable, they even gave us an extra room free of charge for the nippers. Really, it's just snob appeal to say you've slept in such and such a college at Oxford. Especially since the colleges are so wealthy anyway.

Now, if one of Tolkien's homes was turned into a B&B . . .

[Mithalwen]

Err I am not sure what a condo(minium?) is though I am fairly it isn't what first impressions might lead one to think....

As for the food - I indulged at a very upmarket deli in St Giles and a sunny spot in the Parks for a fraction of the cost of the sandwich lunch.

There is one at Wolvercote - and I would have stayed there if I drove.
do if driving (or half of a couple since the cost makes it a no brainer even witha taxi or two. However I took the train and stayed at Keble which was for a lone traveller not unreasonable for an ensuite, central room. But for a couple it is madness - the Randolph starts looking reasonable. Of course it is an experience staying in Hall and was safe and more sociable for a singleton. However for the younger folk they could save a fortune at the bright and shiny Youth Hostel by the station...

Just looked up the Oxford Peartree Travelodge. If you booked now it would be £49 for a family room a night Basically it is at ther far end of the Woodstock Rd and round the corner from the cemetary so you could make a quick getaway after Enyalie if so inclined. Breakfast isn't included in that price but you do get tea and coffee making facilites , a king size bed and telly.... just in case you have a low tolerancefor rubbish poetry ;)

[Lalwendë]

Bethberry's idea isn't half bad actually if anyone wants to try that! I've just looked up self catering places and there are quite a few lovely flats and houses in central Oxford (one was very, very nice indeed) sleeping from 2-6 people and available for short stays. Probably works out at no more than £100 each or so...I'm well used to holidaying like that, too. Hotels are a luxury to me ;)

[Hookbill the Goomba]

For all you Oxonmooters...

If you are taking the train to Oxford then ordering your tickets from virgintrains.co.uk (http://www.virgintrains.co.uk) will ensure you get them at the cheapest possible.
You can only book them 12 weeks in advance. I worked out that this means Thursday July 3rd is the earliest you can order one.
But be warned, the closer to the time you book, the more expensive it will be.
For me, this means paying a mere £52 rather than £170. :D

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I had no idea the accomodation was so expensive. . .I am quite shocked. Also the prices for food seems quite steep, especially when you take into consideration that at these things the food is seldom brilliant.

Surely one could find a cheap place to stay. . .I normally stay at hostels and such when traveling and really don't mind it.

I am determined to go this year and will register as soon as possible. . .then there is no way for me to back out. The only thing that could really make me back out, would be if no downers went.

[Mithalwen]

There is a YHA ("Official") youth hostel near the station and various back packers Rune which would be a lot, lot less...and not very far. And there are plenty of places to eat cheaper - I didn't take any of the food last year. I did have lunch the year before which wasn't too outrageous for a hot meal. £7.50 for someone elses choice of sandwiches is steep...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Sounds great. . .thanks for the info Mith.

Now I cannot let the housing "problem" scare me away ;)

Anyways I am all for joining up with other downers as Bethberry sugested, it sounds like fun and I would not mind spending more money on it. (than if I stayed at a hostel)

[Mithalwen]

http://www.yha.org.uk/find-accommodation/heart-of-england/hostels/Oxford/facilities.aspx

http://www.centralbackpackers.co.uk/index.php?area=prices

http://www.hostels.co.uk/index.php?content=home.htm

These are all very central. and will be a lot cheaper ..particularly if you don't want to commit to 3 nights.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Oxonmoot online bookings will be open 1st of April. Let's hope it's not an April fools prank. :D

http://www.tolkiensociety.org/oxon/2008/Info.html

It appears they are still looking for entertainment for the Saturday... Any Downers fancy putting on a play? Or should I bring a projector and show the phantom and Alien cartoons* and confuse the heck out of everyone. ;)

*(We're currently making a new one ready for either the Downs birthday or the 100th episode, whichever comes first)

[Hookbill the Goomba]

ONLINE BOOKING FOR OXONMOOT IS NOW OPENED

https://ssl121.securednshost.com/~tolkiens/oxon/2008/form.php

Let there be cake.

[Mithalwen]

I see they are only offering dinner this time ... and still very expensive - I found my Keble booklet yesterday and they offered a 3 course evening meal for £9.95..

and it is more expensive than my stay at Keble was for an ensuite room. And they can't mean a twin is more expensive PP than a single?

If I go I certainly shall not stay in hall....

[Beregond]

I just wanted to add that I was in Oxford last year (not for Oxonmoot), and stayed at the Peartree Travelodge. It was nice, and very cheap for a hotel as opposed to a hostel (we booked it over a month prior and got a sale). Not sure how much it costs normally, but it's certainly better if you're not traveling alone (paying for a whole room for yourself). Bit of a longer bus ride to and fro Oxford center, but we were satisfied. Watched the Zidane-headbutt Cup there. :p

[Mithalwen]

2008 Seminar: Freedom, Fate and Choice in Middle-earth

Some of the titles accepted so far include:

"Who Forged Frodo's Fate - The Elves or Himself?"
"Voices of a Music - Models of Free Will in Tolkien's Middle-earth"
"The Fiat of Ilúvatar's Children during the War of the Ring"
"Freedom, Fate, and the Hubris of Evil: Tolkien's The Children of Húrin"


I have booked ot go to this in a few weeks time and it looks quite interesting. I know that it means something different but I now can't help wondering if Gandalf and Aragorn travelled in was a Scudo, Doblo or a Ducato.....:p

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

"Who Forged Frodo's Fate - The Elves or Himself?"
"Voices of a Music - Models of Free Will in Tolkien's Middle-earth"
"The Fiat of Ilúvatar's Children during the War of the Ring"
"Freedom, Fate, and the Hubris of Evil: Tolkien's The Children of Húrin"


Nr 1. and 2. seems very interesting, especially nr. 2.


I have booked ot go to this in a few weeks time and it looks quite interesting. I know that it means something different but I now can't help wondering if Gandalf and Aragorn travelled in was a Scudo, Doblo or a Ducato.....:p
I actually think that a Panda is the more likely choise of a wizard.

[davem]

I actually think that a Panda is the more likely choise of a wizard.

Hmm...sorry - Gandalf's favoured form of transport is clearly stated in LotR:

Legolas and Gimli were to ride again together in the company of Aragorn and Gandalf, who went in the van with the Dunedain and the sons of Elrond. But Merry to his shame was not to go with them. (The Black Gate Opens)

I suspect this is the same vehicle mentioned earlier in Battle of the Pelennor Fields:

But northward the white crest of Eomer led the great front of the Rohirrim which he had again gathered and marshalled; and out of the City came all the strength of men that was in it, and the silver swan of Dol Amroth was borne in the van, driving the enemy from the Gate.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Your point being?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Fiat_panda_2_sst.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fiat_panda_2_sst.jpg

[davem]

Nope- that's simply too small for so many passengers....Legolas, Gimli, Aragorn, Gandalf, Elladan & Elrohir & a load of hairy Dunedain. You'd be looking at a Transit at the least...

[Mithalwen]

Nope- that's simply too small for so many passengers....Legolas, Gimli, Aragorn, Gandalf, Elladan & Elrohir & a load of hairy Dunedain. You'd be looking at a Transit at the least...

I didnt' know they did a Panda van! I had an old Fiat Panda for a while - it was brilliant and suprisingly spacy... It could probably cope with all save the Dunedain.
Aragorn and Gandalf in the front , elf and half elves in the back (they are lean), dwarf in the boot. Easy.

I think Eomer also went in the van at some point.

[davem]

I think Eomer also went in the van at some point.

On the way to Helm's Deep: Aragorn and Legolas went now with Eomer in the van.

I'm assuming there was only the one van used during the whole of the War of the Ring as Tolkien is very specific - always the van. But where did they get the petrol?

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

I wish I could go to Oxonmoot, but I can't. First of all the plane tickets would be oober expensive and plus my parents wouldn't want to go, my dad doesn't like Middle-Earth anything and hasn't read any Tolkien related books, and my mom hasn't read any Tolkien related books either... but at least she likes LotR (movies)...

maybe Laurinque and I can save up enough money to go to Oxonmoot, but that will likely be after we graduate from high-school and take our big trip around the world... Poor me... We'll just have to make our own Tolkien event... we could invite our friends!

[Mithalwen]

You may well find that there is a local Tolkien Society - at least 2 of the speakers last year were American... and while your parents may dislike Tolkien (my family think I am crazy but humour me) I am sure they would love Oxford. They could leave you at the Moot and explore or go up to Blenheim Palace or Stratford. Usually it really is just the Saturday.

They may well like other Oxford writers, Lewis Caroll, Dorothy L Sayers, Pullman, CS Lewis, or have an interest in History. I have been privileged to travel a great deal and few places are as heartstoppingly lovely as Oxford.

[Mithalwen]

On the way to Helm's Deep:

I'm assuming there was only the one van used during the whole of the War of the Ring as Tolkien is very specific - always the van. But where did they get the petrol?

I reckon it was specially adapted to run on biofuel... err the by-products of the fourfooted transport method....

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

You may well find that there is a local Tolkien Society - at least 2 of the speakers last year were American... and while your parents may dislike Tolkien (my family think I am crazy but humour me) I am sure they would love Oxford. They could leave you at the Moot and explore or go up to Blenheim Palace or Stratford. Usually it really is just the Saturday.

They may well like other Oxford writers, Lewis Caroll, Dorothy L Sayers, Pullman, CS Lewis, or have an interest in History. I have been privileged to travel a great deal and few places are as heartstoppingly lovely as Oxford.
My mom and I are big fans of the Chronicles of Narnia (C.S. Lewis) But there is still the problem of plane tickets. I should bug my parents... I was reading the info for Oxonmoot and it said that people under 15 (which I am, by one year) need to be watched by and adult, in other words I need a babysitter... If and when I go, I will make my mother dearest read the books.

[Mithalwen]

. I should bug my parents... I was reading the info for Oxonmoot and it said that people under 15 (which I am, by one year) need to be watched by and adult, in other words I need a babysitter... If and when I go, I will make my mother dearest read the books.

Well it would be an expensive trip so be kind to them - sadly there are lots of boring things that have first call on the wallet.

[Mithalwen]

Well I am off to discover the truth about that van at first sparrow tomorrow... I'll try and give you all the gory details :D

Tootle-oo

[Eönwë]

[QUOTE=TheGreatElvenWarrior;559252]the plane tickets would be oober expensive QUOTE]

Don't you mean uber (über)?:p

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

[quote=TheGreatElvenWarrior;559252]the plane tickets would be oober expensive QUOTE]

Don't you mean uber (über)?:pMaybe!:p But I like putting two o's next to each other, a word looks cooler that way.;)

And, if I want to go to Oxonmoot... Better start praying now... Maybe sending my mom the information that Hookbill provided was a good idea after all! My mom, Laurinque, her mom, and I could all go together!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I'm back from the German Tolkien Society's annual get-together (called the Tolkien Thing - the second word has an Old German meaning, so don't think of it in its modern usage). We stayed in a lovely old castle in Upper Bavaria for the weekend; it's now used as a youth hostel, so the accommodations weren't luxurious, but who cares when the company is great?!

This was a special year, as we are celebrating our 10th anniversary. Commemorative T-shirts, mugs, and other items were popular souvenirs.

Aside from the yearly business meeting (a necessary evil) we had some lectures, some workshops, and some entertainment. Among other things we showed our self-made costumes in a fashion show and learned how to design, cut, and sew new ones.

One of the guest stars was the Canadian Tolkien artist Ted Nasmith, who showed slides of his work and later painted a picture while we watched in awed silence. He was also so kind as to draw a wonderful Treebeard picture in my album; I'll show it on my blog when I get it uploaded. On the last morning he gave a concert of his Tolkien songs.

Another guest star was Caspar Reiff, founder of the Danish group Tolkien Ensemble and one of its composers. He told us of the history of the group and revealed some of its plans for the future - very interesting stories and anecdotes!

The Italian musicians Lingalad gave a concert on Saturday evening which we all enjoyed very much; the atmosphere of the inner court of the castle as a location was wonderful!

I don't suppose any of you would be terribly surprised that I was part of a group that spontaneously put together a parody story during a couple of spare hours on Saturday. "LotR Reloaded" was thought up by four of us who had nothing better to do - and didn't we have fun doing it! - and written by the one who is the best writer (no, not me). She presented it in a reading on Saturday evening, fresh off the press, so to speak, and it was hugely enjoyed by the audience.

As always, money was spent at René van Rossenberg's shop; I managed to find two rare books of Tolkien-based music that I couldn't resist.

It is a very enjoyable experience to meet other Tolkien fans in real life, and I'm enjoying it more each year, as I get to know more of the members. There's very much a family feeling to our get-togethers that makes me look forward to the next time when one event is past.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

By the way, I registered for Oxonmoot, so - Hookbill, plan to bring one copy of your special newspaper for me, please! Who else is planning to come this year?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I have registerd, but I cannot say if I will come yet. . .School starts the 3rd of september and I will have to get a feel for it before I decide if I can mannage a trip.

[Guinevere]

I finally made up my mind to attend this year's Oxonmoot too! :)
I'm looking forward to seeing Esty again, and Hookbill, and whoever of you decides to come!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yay, Guinevere's coming!! Though they're not around here very often these days, it's possible that narfforc and/or Squatter could be there again, as they were last year.

Mithalwen, Lalwendë, davem - any chance?

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Mithalwen, Lalwendë, davem - any chance?

Lal blogged about this a while back. The money (and child) issues seem to have rendered the moot unlikely for them. Shame, I was looking forward to meeting them and discussing the changing world of Parbold with lal. :(

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Lal blogged about this a while back. The money (and child) issues seem to have rendered the moot unlikely for them. Shame, I was looking forward to meeting them and discussing the changing world of Parbold with lal. :(

There is only one thing to do and we all know what that is. . . Win the lottery, hire somebody to kidnap(adultnap?) Lal and Davem and bring them to the moot.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

There is only one thing to do and we all know what that is. . . Win the lottery, hire somebody to kidnap(adultnap?) Lal and Davem and bring them to the moot.Which one of you are going to win the lottery? And more importantly, which one of you are going to kidnap lal and Davem?

[Lalwendë]

We would need a 'family room' to magically appear which would cut the cost and provide us with things like night time silence, a microwave, and free parking because we need to tote so much muck and tat (cots, prams, musical octopus etc) around with us right now ;)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I can understand your reasons not to come, Lal and davem, but I must admit, I wish you could. My experience (most recently at the annual meeting of the German Tolkien Society) is that children enliven things among all those adults - your Junior would be the star of the weekend! (Your presence would be reasonably welcome, of course, as his caretakers... ;) )

[Lalwendë]

I can understand your reasons not to come, Lal and davem, but I must admit, I wish you could. My experience (most recently at the annual meeting of the German Tolkien Society) is that children enliven things among all those adults - your Junior would be the star of the weekend! (Your presence would be reasonably welcome, of course, as his caretakers... ;) )

He already thinks (knows?) he's centre of the Universe ;) He has a knack of blowing raspberries at all the right moments so he would be a little comedian too.

However, I would like to show him off, I admit that :D You can even buy baby sized Tolkien t-shirts so he'd fit right in. He needs to be Tolkienised as he's just a Whovian at the moment, he goes quiet and watches the TV as soon as he hears the sound of the Tardis or the theme tune (which is very cool).

But it would all be a logistical nightmare right now!

[narfforc]

I will most definately be there, sorry that Lal and Davem won't be going again, hope to see the little one soon.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Alright I have booked a hostel for the weekend. . .It is totaly economicaly irresponsible, but I am going to the oxonmoot.

[narfforc]

Great news Rune, another Downers snap for Hooky

[Estelyn Telcontar]

One Oxonmoot friend whom we met last year joined the Downs afterwards - poison ivy. She suggested that some of us meet on Thursday evening for supper - that would be a great opportunity for a Downer get-together. I don't know if any programme is planned for the evening, but for those of us who will be there by then, let's try to meet! I suggest around 6pm at the registration area; should anyone else have another idea, please post here soon. Who will be able to come then? Hookbill, Rune, narfforc, are you planning to come on Thursday? Guinevere, you'll be there by then, IIRC - are you game? Squatter, Mithalwen - anyone else who will be there?

Any objections to bringing along others, should we come across friends who are alone in Oxford?

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Sounds good to me, Esty. I am planning on going punting with a friend on Thursday, so I'll have to actually make some 'official' plans for that and decide a proper time and place. Should only be an hour, because its darned expensive.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

I just sorta realized that Oxonmoot is like this week... Now I'm not so happy...

[narfforc]

I will be there at 6pm, for I much desire to see this Hookbill the Punter.................

[Guinevere]

I will certainly be there! :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

An important annual German event is coming up soon - Ring*Con will be taking place in Bonn from Oct. 3 - 5. For more information, check out the Ring*Con (http://www.ringcon.de/) website.

There are a number of interesting guests, representing both movies and books - John Rhys-Davies ('Gimli') is the most prominent. The focus has been widened to include some non-Tolkien fantasy as well, notably Harry Potter.

I will definitely be attending.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I will be arriving at Gatwick 8:15 am, but I am thinking about sticking around until late and take the bus up with Kath. If I do that I won't be able to join you guys for supper. . . I will make up my mind tonight.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Is Kath coming to Oxonmoot too?!

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Yep, that is what she tells me.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Squatter, Mithalwen - anyone else who will be there?

I'll be at the registration in the late afternoon. According to my tickets, Oxford arrives at my train at about half-past four tomorrow. I shall array me in princely wise, that all may know me and despair (i.e. I will wear a hat).

As it says in Ketils Saga inn Skemmri: "There was a man from Laxardael whose name was Bjorn, and he held the beaching rights along the coast for a mile above Kambsness, and he is now out of the saga. His second cousin's next-door neighbour's best friend was a man called Ketil, who owned the ugliest horse in all Iceland, but he bought another from Thorvald Fish-Breath and no more is said of him."

Wait, no. I probably meant the Longer Saga: "Look not for me at home tomorrow, for I am taking a train to Oxford." It's a late composition.

[Lalwendë]

I am in a HUGE SULK NOW!!!!!

:mad:

We might go and look at that Weta weapons thing in Leeds tomorrow though, so we have some consolatory Tolkien activity to do ;) Maybe next year when we do not need to lug loads of kit about and/or can leave ye childe with his grandparents!

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

There where a few couples with small children and it seemed that they did not really have any problems. . . . Just thought you should know.

[Lalwendë]

There where a few couples with small children and it seemed that they did not really have any problems. . . . Just thought you should know.

I wonder if they had to travel from the frozen north like us though, on primitive trains? ;)

Next year he would not need his heavy travel cot bringing along, nor, hopefully, will need bottles sterilising.

Shame really, I could have gone and watched the Merseyside derby with you in the pub :p

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Shame really, I could have gone and watched the Merseyside derby with you in the pub :p
Belive it or not, but I actually sacrificed the match this weekend. . . what a bad desition :cool:

[Lalwendë]

Belive it or not, but I actually sacrificed the match this weekend. . . what a bad desition :cool:

Don't rub it in! Tch! ;)