A new Downer

[davem]

Lal gave birth to a boy last night - 10.30. Mother & baby are both fine.

(Sorry there's no more details at the moment, but its 2.40 am here & I've just got back from the Hospital. Eleven pounds 3 ounces by caesarian. And now to bed.)

[Morwen]

Congratulations:).

[Oddwen]

Many many congratulations to you both!

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Congrats on the new arrival!

[alatar]

Congratulations to you both on your new addition! :)

Sleep whenever you can.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Yay!

Congratulations, guys. So exciting.

[Bêthberry]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/MimsyBorogroves/smiliewelcome.gif to Planet (Middle) Earth, (not so) little one! http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/MimsyBorogroves/smiliesoother.gif

And http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/MimsyBorogroves/smiliecongrats.gif to Lal and davem.

[Bêthberry]

Is that addition or edition, alatar? ;)

And concerning sleep, some say this provides a slight solution:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/MimsyBorogroves/smiliefamilybed.gif


(Oh, and, be prepared for receiving lots of advice, particularly from absolute strangers, of whom I am of course one as we've never met.)

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(yes, I am allowed to double post on such an occasion especially as I have time on my hands.

[Valier]

Congratulations on the new baby!!!!

[Orominuialwen]

Congratulations on the little wight!:D:D:D

[Valesse]

How wonderful! Congratulations you... three!

[Raynor]

Congratulations! :)

You will need to select for him a BD nick, so we can properly refer to him ;).

[Lalaith]

Splendid news, well done everyone!
Eleven pounds 3, wow, I am really impressed. There's some fine Northern genes there, for sure.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Well done, well done.

May your times be filled with the joys of good things and very few filthy nappies indeed. :D

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Let life be good forever from now on!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Wonderful news! Many congratulations to you! I hope he's not going to join the Downs when he grows up, because if the combined genes work, then no discussion thread will be safe anymore :) Pass all our congrats to Lalwendë as well!

[Thinlómien]

I'm so glad to hear everything went fine. :) Congratulations!

[Child of the 7th Age]

Best of luck and congratulations! Your life will change. Oh how it will! It's as if you walk out the door and are swept along by something you never even knew existed before. I am sure you will do great with the child rearing. My one and only piece of advice is to make sure you both get enough sleep in the coming weeks.

[Brinniel]

Congratulations to you guys!

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It is good to know everything is well. I'm sure you two have had a very exciting (and exhausting) week. Hopefully the baby will let you at least get some shut eye..

I think we all here look forward to seeing pictures in the future. :)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Congratulations! What else is there to say. . .I am glad that both are feeling fine and I hope that you are too.

(Did you know that "Rohan" is aproved as a boys name in Denmark?)

[Mithalwen]

Splendid news, well done everyone!
Eleven pounds 3, wow, I am really impressed. There's some fine Northern genes there, for sure.

That is a very bonny baby..... maybe the paper round by Christmas isn't so far fetched after all!

Love to you all...

[davem]

We've both been reading this thread & just wanted to say thanks so much.

[Mithalwen]

Well thank you for letting us know so soon ... I know a lot of us are very fond of you both (all!) but obviously there are a lot of RL folk who have priority...

But I am typing with a huge grin on my face and am just so happy for you and relieved that he has safely arrived.

*hugs*

[Finduilas]

I will add my congratulations. Glad to hear everything went well! May you have all the joys a baby can bring.






(How soon are you going to let him read the LotR?:p)

[The Might]

Congratulations!

You could however name him Davende...or Lalwem. :D

[Macalaure]

I would like to add even more congratulations! :)

[Kath]

Congratulations! I'm so glad it all went well. Fea told me about this earlier but I didn't have time to post. 11 pounds though, ouch!

[alatar]

My one and only piece of advice is to make sure you both get enough sleep in the coming weeks.
...or quickly learn to live on less - or none. ;)

Do we get to see a picture? And note that, when told the baby's weight, Ms. alatar said, "Ouch!" (even with the cesarean thing). :eek:

[Mithalwen]

I bet Mrs Alatar will have even more sympathy when you tell her the "Caesarian thing" was after 2 days of labour....:rolleyes: that is still a very big OUCH as far as I am concerned... and I've realised that this one was bigger than the combined birth weight of my friends twins ...

[alatar]

I bet Mrs Alatar will have even more sympathy when you tell her the "Caesarian thing" was after 2 days of labour....:rolleyes: that is still a very big OUCH as far as I am concerned... and I've realised that this one was bigger than the combined birth weight of my friends twins ...
Anyone who thinks that women aren't tough hasn't witnessed up-close-and-personal pregnancy, labor and childbirth. From the male point of view; sure, when living with a pregnant woman/'helping' in the delivery, you risk your life with every utterance or act. But what amazes me is that, after carrying the child for 40 weeks or so (the whole idea of something alive inside of me is too much like 'Alien' for comfort), going through the process of labor - in Lalwendë's case, two days! - upon seeing the child it's like the whole ordeal never happened. And they may even, knowing what they know from a first child, go back and do it again! :eek:

[Mithalwen]

There is some interesting research that shows that women do forget just how painful it is surprisingly quickly which I suppose is natures way of maintaining the population... but I can't quite believe it, but then I went drinking with a obstetrician at an impressionable age ...and that really put me off :p

[Encaitare]

Eep! Congratulations!!! :D Let's get some pics so we can all go awwwww and melt into a collective Downer puddle. ;)

[Mister Underhill]

Eleven-three! That's a big boy. Well, at least he wasn't eleventy-three.

Congratulations! My small tip: keep a journal handy if you haven't already started one. Those first few months go by in a sleepless blur and later on you might really enjoy looking back on your thoughts and feelings from what will surely be one of the most intense times of your lives.

[Morai]

Congrats! I'm sure the kid's lucky to have such parents. :D

[davem]

http://captainbingo.livejournal.com/

[Valesse]

Aw... I have to confess I squealled at the cuteness, Lal and Davem.That first picture is quintessentially... adorable! Sweetest of dreams, little one.

* gush gush gush *

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Amazing. Usually I'm ambivalent about babies but I squeal over puppies and kittens, but I'm downright cooing over the lil fella. Look at those chubby cheeks.

[THE Ka]

Amazing. Usually I'm ambivalent about babies but I squeal over puppies and kittens, but I'm downright cooing over the lil fella. Look at those chubby cheeks.

Hee hee, same here...

But, I can't argue, he's a handsome lil'downer. :)

Congratulations!!! :)

Very glad to hear that Lal is okay, a ceasarian is absolutely no easy thing (as recounted to me by mum, hers almost killed her, but that's a story not needed here), and congratulations again! I hope the little one brings you more life and happiness. :)


~ Ka

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Good job you two, and warm welcome to the little fellow! Wishing you 3 the best!

(He does look remarkably well for all he's been through. Hope that the same can be said for Lal!)

[Nogrod]

I'm so happy with this!

Sooner than you think he will be questioning all you wish to teach him. And before you realise he will go to school - that happens so fast!! And after that he will probably join the Downs and lo! what can we do about it but to learn from him then... :)

Congrats!

Just be human with your little guy.

No manual can teach what loving parents can do. Make him feel that he's welcome in this world and that the arms of mummy and daddy are cozy as well...

I'm so happy about to hear this!

[Boromir88]

Wow, just wow...absolutely adorable. He's even got my niece's cheeks when she was born.

I think he's got a promising future, I mean after all a child from lal and davem could only mean we will, in time, have a new wight at the top of the reputation totem poll. :D

Congradulations to all of you. :)

[piosenniel]

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What a treasure! A fine looking baby boy!!!

Congratulations on your new little sprout, Lal and davem.....

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~*~ Pio
:D

[HerenIstarion]

Very very congrats :):)

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This kind of good ale I'll raise to his health as soon as the opportunity presents itself

[Diamond18]

Congratulations to all three of you. :D

[HerenIstarion]

Either I'm too tired, or I'm missing it for the lack of good sight, though I looked through the thread twice - have the name given been named (apart from joking up there about combining davem and lalwende)? :Merisu:

[Farael]

Congratulations Lal and Davem! =) as we'd say in my family "que cosha golda!" ("cosa gorda" which is literally translated to "chubby thing" but that is NOT the meaning... it means rather a cute lil' one :) )

[davem]

Either I'm too tired, or I'm missing it for the lack of good sight, though I looked through the thread twice - have the name given been named (apart from joking up there about combining davem and lalwende)? :Merisu:

No, it hasn't. We're still thinking...... We do have one in mind, & I'll let you know when we've finally decided.....

[The Might]

No, it hasn't. We're still thinking...... We do have one in mind, & I'll let you know when we've finally decided.....

Let me guess...Might? :D

[Holbytlass]

a new little baby
such a heavenly sight
he'll steal your heart by day
and your sleep at night*

CONGRATULATIONS!!


I am so happy for you both (Wow, I thought my boy of 9lbs2oz was big!). He is so cute and smells good, too. Yes, I can smell through the computer. Just so excited for you both. It is an amazing feeling when a tiny little person has been on this earth not so very long but then you can't imagine them not being a part of your life.



There is some interesting research that shows that women do forget just how painful it is surprisingly quickly which I suppose is natures way of maintaining the population...
Maybe not too quickly but for some of us we never learn. Mr. Holby and I are trying for our 5th. Take note, Alatar, we are going to break the tie :p ;).

*one of my favorite Hallmark cards

[Rikae]

Congratulations Lal and Davem! =) as we'd say in my family "que cosha golda!" ("cosa gorda" which is literally translated to "chubby thing" but that is NOT the meaning... it means rather a cute lil' one :) )

I'm of the opinion that, when it comes to babies, the two are synonymous anyway. :D He's adorable!
Lal & Dave, though I congratulated you elsewhere, why not here as well? Can't have too much celebration! Make the most of every minute - little ones grow up far too quickly.

[Maikadilwen]

A slightly belated congratulations to both of you, he is a cutie! Can't say how it pleases me to see the "dating-success" of the Downs resulting in a next generation (having been happily married to a downer for 3 years now, myself) :D

[Durelin]

Congratulations!! That's so exciting, and I'm so happy for you both! He's gorgeous!

[Folwren]

Congratulations!

Something funny - I just met a one month old just barely the same weight as this newcomer when he was first born!

Hope all is going well with you, Lal, and your recovery. My Mom had three Ceasarians. No fun.

Blessings!

-- Folwren

[Lalwendë]

I'm back.

Well I have a thousand and one things to do and am verrry tired, but my first task shall be to come on here. We came home yesterday evening. Davem said he'd do the through the night thing last night and is now in a sate of severe shock - I'd already done four nights of this in the hospital so I was quite happy to give him a turn but the little tyke decided to give him the run around and not induct him in lightly. Meh. ;)

It's quite funny how quickly you fall into casual talk of sore bums and the colour of poop. Saying "What has it got in it's pocketses?" adds amusement to the task... I'm quite taken with the concept of modern medicine as the hospital team did a great job and despite still walking around at little old lady pace and whining when I climb the stairs as I can feel the stitches pulling, I was up and on my feet within 12 hours of the event. There's nothing to be scared of really, painkillers are excellent these days and then afterwards nature shows you what to do. ;)

Now I need to look up what Middle-earth events took place on his birthday - off the top of me head, I think this was when Frodo was fleeing to Rivendell wasn't it?

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Apparently, Glorfindel left Rivendell on the 9th. That would be pretty close. :)

[HerenIstarion]

On 11th Glorfindel drove the Riders off the Bridge of Mitheithel :)

[Mithalwen]

[QUOTE=Lalwendë;534150]
It's quite funny how quickly you fall into casual talk of sore bums and the colour of poop. QUOTE]

Just bear in mind that it is a topic of somewhat limited interest to anyone who a, hasn't got a strong genetic stake in the pooh producer or , b, doesn't have one of their own to swap anecdotes about. I really didn't need as much information as I got about my god-son's potty training believe me :p Don't get me wrong, I like children... I am just better with them when they have developed a sense of responsibility at both ends :cool:

[Guinevere]

(Belated) congratulations from me too, for the lovely little boy!

May the stars shine on his path through life!

(And I wish you a speedy recovery, Lal, and not too many disturbed nights... )

[The Might]

Seems you could call him Glorfindel...if he happens to have blonde hair it actually is a must.

[Eruanna]

Hearty congratulations, Lal and davem. He's gorgeous!

[The Saucepan Man]

Haven't been around much lately - family, work, other interests etc - so I have only just seen this.

Many congratulations to both - all three - of you. I am really happy for you. :) I remember when our first was born - nearly 10 years ago now - and what a wonderful moment it was. As for those who tell you to make the most of every moment, well they've got it just about right. The years just seem to whizz by.

I am impressed that you sound so calm, Lal, after what you have been through. My recollection of the first few weeks is utter panic, although that was largely because Mrs S had some complications (severe back pain from a botched volley of epidurals), and I had to learn the basics of babycare pdq. Still, it sounds like you are coping well, and I'm glad that you have got davem doing his fair share. :D

And bear in mind that things are always much easier second time round. ;)

All the best.

~Sauce~

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Congratulations. :)

[Mithalwen]

a botched volley of epidurals

Poor Mrs Sauce.... few phrases not concerning actual loss of life have filled me with more horror than those five words ...


Other interests? Don't tell me you have seen the light and have taken up watching rugby? :p

[Lalwendë]

I was told right away that an epidural was the sensible choice as it was going to hurt more than normal otherwise so I took it gladly - I was scared but the brisk and sarcastic manner of the anaesthetist made me laugh and thankfully she did a good job. The other anaesthetist who took over in the evening was similar and let me hang onto her hand and talk mind-diverting drivel to her all through the op. I asked one if she had a thing about needles considering her specialism and the other I accused of being a sadist. ;)

I'm calm because I have to be, but I have had some screaming fits over the inability to get the steriliser into the microwave and thinking I'd given the tyke nappy rash (it was his antibiotics which did this) :(

And davem has taken to it all like a duck to water. ;)

[Mithalwen]

vaguely conscious during major surgery and if the pain was going to be bad enough to make having a ruddy great needle shoved in my spine seem like a good option, I'd rather be knocked out and woken when it was all over .....

[Lalwendë]

vaguely conscious during major surgery and if the pain was going to be bad enough to make having a ruddy great needle shoved in my spine seem like a good option, I'd rather be knocked out and woken when it was all over .....

Well you know that whatever happens, something has got to come out in some way, and if there is the option of doing this relatively painlessly then you snatch it up. I kept thinking that if Frodo had been offered a Tardis to take him to the Cracks of Doom then he'd have been mad not to take it ;)

It's all frightening at the time, but afterwards you really do put it out of your mind, possibly as you are soooo tired... :(

I did wonder what agonies poor Miriel went through having Feanor though, to make her react like that? Wonder how heavy he was? ;)

[Mithalwen]

Well you know that whatever happens, something has got to come out in some way, and if there is the option of doing this relatively painlessly then you snatch it up. I kept thinking that if Frodo had been offered a Tardis to take him to the Cracks of Doom then he'd have been mad not to take it ;)

I did wonder what agonies poor Miriel went through having Feanor though, to make her react like that? Wonder how heavy he was?

Oh I fully admit I am a wimp ...and too many friends have told me more than you should tell someone who hasn't gone through it... and size isn't everything :p - my godson was a froglike 4 llbs and still did enough damage to necessitate transfusions and emergency surgery. Another friend produced ninepounders with no epi, no stitches and was back in size ten jeans within a couple of weeks. If she weren't my dearest friend I'd have to kill her....

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

Congratulations and best wishes to everyone involved (but particularly to the new mother who, let's face it, had the biggest and most important job).

Free Advice From a Parent: ignore all the advice you are about to get (except this of course).

(Now the real question: when, several years from now, davem reads The Hobbit aloud to the child, will the tra-la-la-la-lalee singing Elves be left in the story or summarily excised as not belonging in the legendarium?)

[davem]

Congratulations and best wishes to everyone involved (but particularly to the new mother who, let's face it, had the biggest and most important job).

That's what she keeps telling me....:p

Seriously, thanks to everybody for your good wishes. Its tiring, terrifying & wonderful (& rather smelly.......)

[HerenIstarion]

(& rather smelly.......)

Not sure what local brands there may be down your way, but from international type of... Libero is my best choice over all of them Huggies and Pampers and others :rolleyes:

[alatar]

I was told right away that an epidural was the sensible choice as it was going to hurt more than normal otherwise so I took it gladly - I was scared but the brisk and sarcastic manner of the anaesthetist made me laugh and thankfully she did a good job.
I think that the reason we have four is so that my wife could finally experience childbirth with an epidural...
Child 1 - How bad can the pain be? :rolleyes:
Child 2 - Preeclampsia complicated labor and birth, and so the anesthesiologist said no, after putting the needle in my wife's back.
Child 3 - We rushed to the hospital - Ms. alatar suggesting I run every light and signal as the baby was about to be born in the car :eek: - so when we get to the hospital, we tell the nurses that the baby is about to be born. Experts that they are, knowing that we were just another couple of clueless parents, figured that we could wait in one of the pre-labor rooms. We also stressed that, being aware of the epidural 'window,' that we were keen on getting one immediately. This was met with a yawn. So after a few minutes in the pre-room, I went out and asked a nurse for some gloves and some scissors. She asked why, and I said, "Well, I don't want to contaminate the baby when I cut the cord (the baby hadn't come yet, but it was close)". Suddenly we were rushed to the birthing room amidst apologies and after a few minutes - Ms. alatar try as she might to 'hold it' - we had child #3, missing yet again the epidural. Note that Ms. alatar gave birth a mere 45 minutes upon me dropping her off at the hospital door, and that's due to her trying to hold out for the epidural.
Child 4 - We got to the hospital a little earlier this time, and, after explaining to the nurses our prior experiences, got an epidural shortly after arriving.

After experiencing four such events, I can't see Tinúviel or Arwen going through the same ordeal.

[Nimrodel_9]

Yay! Congrats to you both! :D
Have you decided on a name yet?

[Ghazi]

Congratulations.

Eleven pounds 3 ounces

Wow.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

He's soooooooooo cute!:D

Of course I don't know anything about birthing children, because I am not old enough yet to do so since I am only thirteen! Other than, when my little brother was born, a matter of six and a half years ago he was purple!:eek:

I will say this again... he's soooooooooo cute!!!!!
I say you should name him a sensible hobbit name, like ummm... not Ted Sandyman or Lotho Sackville-Baggins!!!!!:D

[Lush]

Yeah, I haven't been around in a while, but this is just to say:

This is what we call "criminally cute." ;)

Mnogaya leta.*

*- Long years

[Lalwendë]

If you aint seen me blog lately...The big little guy is now weighing in at 13lb 11oz and is two foot tall, so almost Hobbit sized in height if not in girth. He's learnt to smile and giggle and is currently eating his fist while listening to The Pogues. He laughs at monkey noises and davem blowing raspberries and currently has his very first bout of 'man-flu' ;)

[Bêthberry]

I always think it is a conundrum, to describe a baby's size before he or she walks: is it really "tall" or would "long" be more appropriate? ;)

He's got a beautiful smile. Isn't it worth all the world and loss of sleep to see that smile? especially when it comes just after an upchuck or the umpteenth nappy change five minutes after the previous one, which drenched the bed too. :) :cool:

[Lalwendë]

I always think it is a conundrum, to describe a baby's size before he or she walks: is it really "tall" or would "long" be more appropriate?

He's got a beautiful smile. Isn't it worth all the world and loss of sleep to see that smile? especially when it comes just after an upchuck or the umpteenth nappy change five minutes after the previous one, which drenched the bed too.

I think 'long' is right, but it just doesn't sound it!

Surprisingly, nappies are one of the least unpleasant things to deal with - the worst thing is all the worrying you get to do :(

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Well, I still don't think you have told us a name.... or is it a secret that you are keeping from all of us *cries*

[Folwren]

I'm pretty sure they promised to tell us....

--Finduilas--

*Really, Finduilas....

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

They're naming their boy Findulias?

[davem]

He's Alfred Graham Caedmon. Alfred because its Anglo Saxon & means Elf-counsel, Graham for family reasons & Caedmon was the earliest English poet we have a name for & because of his connection with Whitby, one of our (& Tolkien's, apparently) favourite places.

[Finduilas]

They're naming their boy Findulias?

Lol. No. I was just signing my name, as I was on Folwrens account. She didn't sign out, and I was tired so I didn't. Sorry for the confusing you. :D

Impressive name, Davem.

[Mithalwen]

Though I don't know the exact meaning and of course both known bearers were female, I don't think there is a reason why Finduilas couldn't be a boys name - Fin appears in many male elf names , then we have Thranduil and Legolas ... far less odd than David Cameron calling his son "Elwen".

[Finduilas]

Though I don't know the exact meaning and of course both known bearers were female, I don't think there is a reason why Finduilas couldn't be a boys name - Fin appears in many male elf names , then we have Thranduil and Legolas ... far less odd than David Cameron calling his son "Elwen".

You do have a point. But it's kind of like Leslie being a name for both genders. I think it sounds like a girl name, but obviosly not everyone agrees. The problem is, once anyone read the Silm. it would always be a girl name to them, so it wouldn't work.

[Lalwendë]

Merry Christmas from the youngest of us all!http://lalwendeboggart.livejournal.com/142852.html

:D

[Mithalwen]

One day he may forgive you...

[Bêthberry]

One day he may forgive you...

Yeah, probably when he's like 90 and is toothless once again. :D

[Lalwendë]

The indoctrination begins:

http://pics.livejournal.com/lalwendeboggart/pic/0005ep0r/

:cool:

[HerenIstarion]

He's Alfred Graham Caedmon. Alfred because its Anglo Saxon & means Elf-counsel, Graham for family reasons & Caedmon was the earliest English poet we have a name for & because of his connection with Whitby, one of our (& Tolkien's, apparently) favourite places.


Graham would be Anglo-Saxon too, eh? Grey Hame. Wolf. Or Gandalf. Or both :rolleyes:

Cool picture Lal, not to mention T-Shirt slogan :D

[Lalwendë]

Graham would be Anglo-Saxon too, eh? Grey Hame. Wolf. Or Gandalf. Or both :rolleyes:

Cool picture Lal, not to mention T-Shirt slogan :D

Cool! I'd not thought of that! :cool:

Good to hear from you by the way, I hope things are easier up in your part of the world! That was one scary story you had online!

[Raefindel]

Well, Heck! A girl's gone for 2 or 3 years and everyone goes off and has families!

CONGRATULATIONS! He's Beautiful!