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skip spence
06-25-2009, 11:22 AM
Phantom, check your PM box, all right!
the phantom
06-25-2009, 11:41 AM
Ah, I can see the problem. Hope that takes care of it, Skip. :)
I've got the full list of leading point-getters and goal/assist scorers ready now, so I'll throw that up right after I put the Phantasy points and standing up and we'll be ready to take trades.
Again, 8 star limit, no more than 3 players from one team, and use a legal formation (3-5-2 and 3-4-3 are not legal).
the phantom
06-25-2009, 12:18 PM
ANGBAND
*GK- Carcharoth (6)
-DF- Balrog #5 (3)
-DF- Ulfast (4)
*DF- Uldor (7)
*DF- Drauglin (3)
-MF- Telvildo (1)
-MF- Gwindor (1)
-MF- Thuringwethil (6)
*MF- Hurin (3)
*FW- Maeglin (0)
**FW- Ancalagon (4)
ARMENELOS
*GK- Tar Atanamir (2)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (2)
*DF- Tar Cirytan (2)
*DF- Tar Telperien (2)
-MF- Tar Calmacil (3)
-MF- Ar Gimilzor (5)
-MF- Tar Ancalimon (-1)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (5)
-FW- Tar Minastir (2)
*FW- Sauron (3)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (4)
DOR-LOMIN
-GK- Huor (4)
-DF- Gundor (1)
-DF- Gloredhel (2)
-DF- Galdor (1)
*DF- Marach (2)
-MF- Morwen (-1)
-MF- Nienor (0)
-MF- Hador (3)
-MF- Tuor (-1)
*FW- Beleg (3)
**FW- Turin (8)
EDORAS
-GK- Theoden (4)
-DF- Frealaf (-1)
-DF- Elfwine (0)
*DF- Shadowfax (0)
*DF- Felarof (0)
-MF- Brego (0)
-MF- Aldor (2)
-MF- Thengel (0)
-FW- Eowyn (2)
-FW- Eomer (4)
*FW- Eorl (4)
EREBOR
-GK- Bain (2)
-DF- Thrain (0)
-DF- Brand (0)
-DF- Girion (-1)
*DF- Beorn (0)
-MF- Nain (0)
-MF- Dain (0)
-MF- Bard (-1)
-MF- Nazgul #7 (3)
-FW- Bolg (3)
**FW- Smaug (0)
EREGION
**GK- Elrond (4)
*DF- Gildor (-1)
*DF- Erestor (0)
*DF- Celebrimbor (0)
**DF- Gandalf (0)
-MF- Valandil (-1)
-MF- Elladen (0)
-MF- Elrohir (-1)
-MF- Earendil (3)
*MF- Gil Galad (0)
*FW- Glorfindel (4)
HITHLUM
*GK- Huan (4)
*DF- Annael (2)
*DF- Balrog #1 (1)
*DF- Caranthir (2)
*DF- Ulmo (2)
-MF- Finrod (0)
-MF- Fingon (-1)
*MF- Fingolfin (0)
-FW- Aredhel (3)
*FW- Maedhros (4)
**FW- Feanor (7)
MINAS MORGUL
-GK- The Mouth (2)
-DF- Nazgul #1 (0)
-DF- Gothmog II (0)
-DF- Nazgul #2 (0)
*DF- Khamul (0)
-MF- Sangahyando (-1)
-MF- Angamaite (0)
-MF- Beruthiel (7)
-FW- Earnur (0)
-FW- Castamir (3)
**FW- Witch King (3)
MINAS TIRITH
-GK- Ecthelion II (4)
-DF- Ondoher (0)
-DF- Denethor II (0)
-DF- Earnil II (0)
*DF- Nazgul #5 (0)
-MF- Telumehtar (0)
-MF- Calimehtar (-1)
-MF- Beregond (-1)
-MF- Mardil (0)
-FW- Boromir I (0)
**FW- Aragorn II (0)
MIRKWOOD
-GK- Oropher (4)
-DF- Radagast (-1)
-DF- Treebeard (0)
*DF- Grimbeorn (0)
-MF- Bilbo (3)
-MF- Galion (0)
-MF- Fram (0)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (5)
*FW- Legolas (3)
-FW- Thranduil (6)
**FW- Scatha (4)
NARGOTHROND
-GK- Orodreth (4)
*DF- Celegorm (0)
*DF- Mim (-1)
*DF- Luthien (0)
*DF- Curufin (0)
-MF- Gelmir (0)
-MF- Arminas (0)
-MF- Finduilas (-1)
*MF- Glaurung (3)
*FW- Beren (5)
*FW- Mablung (0)
ROMENNA
*GK- Elros (2)
*DF- Tar Ancalime (-1)
*DF- Tar Elendil (0)
*DF- Tar Amandil (0)
*DF- Tar Aldarion (0)
-MF- Tar Anarion (0)
-MF- Tar Surion (0)
-MF- Tar Meneldur (0)
-MF- Vardamir (-1)
-MF- Tar Miriel (0)
-FW- Tar Palantir (0)
TANIQUETIL
*GK- Mandos (2)
*DF- Este (-1)
*DF- Vana (0)
*DF- Nessa (0)
*DF- Yavanna (0)
*DF- Nienna (0)
-MF- Lorien (0)
-MF- Manwe (-1)
-MF- Varda (3)
*MF- Thorondor (5)
*FW- Orome (0)
TUNA
-GK- Aule (2)
-DF- Amrod (0)
-DF- Amras (-1)
-DF- Indis (0)
*DF- Ingwe (0)
-MF- Guillen (0)
-MF- Mahtan (-1)
*MF- Finarfin (5)
-FW- Nerdanel (2)
*FW- Finwe (3)
**FW- Miriel (4)
VALIMAR
*GK- Ungolient (4)
*DF- Alatar (4)
*DF- Pallando (3)
*DF- Balrog #2 (4)
*DF- Balrog #3 (4)
-MF- Balrog #4 (1)
-MF- Arien (4)
-MF- Tilion (4)
**MF- Melkor (6)
-FW- Tulkas (4)
*FW- Eonwe (7)
TOL-IN-GAURHOTH
*GK- Mormwolf (4)
*DF- Kuruwolf (2)
*DF- Runewolf (1)
*DF- Skipwolf (1)
*MF- Wereomer (0)
*MF- Lomwolf (0)
*MF- Borowolf (2)
*MF- Phantomwolf (3)
*FW- Nogwolf (4)
*FW- Gwathwolf (0)
*FW- SPMwolf (4)
the phantom
06-25-2009, 12:18 PM
Noggerball
*GK- Huan (Hithlum) 4
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) 3
*DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 2
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 3
**MF- Melkor (Valimar) 6
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond) 3
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) 3
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C) 4
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna) 2
TOTAL POINTS- 34
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum) 4
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 2
-DF- Indis (Tuna) 0
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar) 4
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 5
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul) 7
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 3
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond) 3
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos) 3
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 7
TOTAL POINTS- 47
Hakon's Hottest Haters
-GK- Theoden (Edoras) 4
*DF- Felarof (Edoras) 0
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 2
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras) -1
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 3
**MF- Melkor (Valimar) 6
-MF- Tilion (Valimar) 4
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C) 4
*FW- Finwe (Tuna) 3
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna) 2
TOTAL POINTS- 31
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband) 6
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
-DF- Indis (Tuna) 0
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras) -1
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond) 0
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 3
-MF- Mardil (Minas Tirith) 0
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG) 3
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna) 2
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C) 4
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) 7
TOTAL POINTS- 28
Nerwen's Nitpickers
*GK- Elros (Romenna) 2
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Indis (Tuna) 0
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
*DF- Felarof (Edoras) 0
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband) 6
-MF- Tilion (Valimar) 4
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 3
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond) 3
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 29
Shadwell Army
-GK- Aule (Tuna) 2
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 2
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion) 0
-MF- Telvildo (Angband) 1
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum) 0
-MF- Arien (Valimar) 4
*MF- Finwe (Tuna) 3
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos) (C) 4
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum) 7
TOTAL POINTS- 29
Gwath's Lynch Mob
-GK– Theoden (Edoras) 4
*DF– Felarof (Edoras) 0
-DF– Indis (Tuna) 0
-DF– Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 2
-MF– Tilion (Valimar) 4
-MF– Earendil (Eregion) 3
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond) 3
*MF– Phantomwolf (TIG) 3
**MF– Melkor (Valimar) 6
**FW– Miriel (Tuna) (C) 4
-FW– Nerdanel (Tuna) 2
TOTAL POINTS- 35
Monkey Stink
*GK- Mormwolf (TIG) 4
*DF- Felarof (Edoras) 0
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul) 0
-DF Elfwine (Edoras) 0
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 3
-MF- Tilion (Valimar) 4
*MF- Finarfin (Tuna) 5
*FW- Finwe (Tuna) 3
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C) 4
-FW- Eowyn (Edoras) 2
TOTAL POINTS- 29
TeeGee Ew United
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin) 4
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) 3
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 2
-DF- Thrain (Erebor) 0
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-MF- Telvildo (Angband) 1
*MF- Finarfin (Tuna) 5
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 5
*FW- Beren (Nargothrond) 5
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin) (C) 8
-FW- Eowyn (Edoras) 2
TOTAL POINTS- 45
The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) 2
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion) 0
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar) 4
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) 3
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG) 3
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 3
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum) -1
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C) 4
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
*FW- Maeglin (Angband) 0
TOTAL POINTS- 25
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs
**GK- Elrond (Eregion) 4
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) 0
-DF- Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos) 2
-DF- Ulfast (Angband) 4
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum) 0
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum) -1
-MF- Elrohir (Eregion) -1
-MF- Varda (Taniquetil) 3
**FW- Ancalagon (Angband) (C) 4
*FW- SPMwolf (TIG) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 23
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners
-GK- Theoden (Edoras) 4
-DF- Indis (Tuna) 0
*DF- Felarof (Edoras) 0
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) 0
*DF- Nessa (Taniquetil) 0
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Erebor) 3
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG) 3
-MF- Tilion (Valimar) 4
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C) 4
*FW- Beleg (Dor-lomin) 3
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna) 2
TOTAL POINTS- 27
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Theoden (Edoras) 4
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion) 0
-DF- Amras (Tuna) -1
-DF– Indis (Tuna) 0
*DF- Felarof (Edoras) 0
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond) 3
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith) 0
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 3
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) (C) 7
**FW Miriel (Tuna) 4
*FW- Finwe (Tuna) 3
TOTAL POINTS- 30
FIRST ROUND PLAYOFF POINTS
Boro's Blunderbusters- 47
TeeGee Ew United- 45
Gwath's Lynch Mob- 35
Noggerball- 34
Hakon's Hottest Haters- 31
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 30
Monkey Stink- 29
Nerwen's Nitpickers- 29
Shadwell Army- 29
Shasta's Risk Runners- 28
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners- 27
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 25
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs- 23
Okay now- let's add in prediction points for this round, the points scored through the tournament, and penalties.
TOTAL POINT STANDINGS
Boro's Blunderbusters- 185
Noggerball- 179
Hakon's Hottest Haters- 165
Shasta's Risk Runners- 157
Nerwen's Nitpickers- 153
Shadwell Army- 152
Gwath's Lynch Mob- 152
TeeGee Ew United- 148
Monkey Stink- 133
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 127
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 119
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners- 117
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs- 116
the phantom
06-25-2009, 12:19 PM
You could have had this team in that last round-
*GK Carcharoth (Angband) 6
*DF Uldor (Angband) 7
*DF Alatar (Valimar) 4
*DF Balrog #2 (Valimar) 4
DF Ulfast (Angband) 4
MF Beruthiel (Minas Morgul) 7
MF Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 5
MF Ar Gimilzor (Armenelos) 5
**FW Turin (Dor-Lomin) (C) 8
*FW Eonwe (Valimar) 7
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood) 6
TOTAL POINTS- 71
And best of all you'd still have all 11 players left on your roster! :p
the phantom
06-25-2009, 12:20 PM
Remember, at the end of the tournament there are bonus points to be handed out to those who correctly predicted the various scoring leaders. Let's see where they're at right now.
(If a player has-> e next to them, their team is eliminated.)
MOST PHANTASY POINTS
26
**FW Miriel (Tuna) e
23
**MF Melkor (Valimar)
21
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
*FW Eonwe (Valimar)
*FW Finwe (Tuna) e
20
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
MF Earendil (Eregion) e
19
**FW Turin (Dor-Lomin)
**FW Scatha (Mirkwood)
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood)
FW Nerdanel (Tuna) e
18
**GK Elrond (Eregion) e
**FW Witch-King (Minas Morgul)
*FW Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
*DF Felarof (Edoras) e
GK Theoden (Edoras) e
17
*DF Curufin (Nargothrond) e
*MF Glaurung (Nargothrond) e
*MF Finarfin (Tuna) e
*FW Beleg (Dor-Lomin)
MF Tilion (Valimar)
MF Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
FW Castamir (Minas Morgul)
16
*GK Ungoliant (Valimar)
*GK Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*GK Elros (Romenna) e
MF Eldacar (Osgiliath) e
FW Eowyn (Edoras) e
15
*DF Shadowfax (Edoras) e
*FW Eorl (Edoras) e
MF Nazgul #7 (Erebor) e
FW Araphor (Arnor) e
14
*GK Mormwolf (TIG)
*DF Alatar (Valimar)
*DF Balrog #2 (Valimar)
*DF Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*MF Hurin (Angband)
*FW SPMwolf (TIG)
*FW Gothmog (Gondolin) e
GK Ecthelion II (Minas Tirith) e
GK Orodreth (Nargothrond) e
MF Arien (Valimar)
MF Thuringwethil (Angband)
MF Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
MF Mardil (Minas Tirith) e
FW Tar Minastir (Armenelos)
FW Boromir I (Minas Tirith) e
13
*DF Pallando (Valimar)
*DF Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
*MF Phantomwolf (TIG)
*MF Thorondor (Taniquetil) e
*MF Eol (Doriath) e
MF Arwen (Lothlorien) e
FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
12
**FW Ancalagon (Angband)
*GK Carcharoth (Angband)
*GK Huan (Hithlum)
*FW Nogwolf (TIG)
GK Huor (Dor-Lomin)
GK Aule (Tuna) e
11
**FW Smaug (Erebor) e
**FW Aragorn II (Minas Tirith) e
**DF Gandalf (Eregion) e
*DF Celebrimbor (Eregion) e
*DF Luthien (Nargothrond) e
*FW Maedhros (Hithlum)
*FW Glorfindel (Eregion) e
*FW Ecthelion (Gondolin) e
*FW Boromir II (Gondor) e
*FW Azog (Moria) e
DF Frealaf (Edoras) e
DF Elfwine (Edoras) e
MF Hador (Dor-Lomin)
MF Varda (Taniquetil) e
MF Idril (Alqualonde) e
FW Eomer (Edoras) e
10
*FW Isildur (Arnor) e
GK The Mouth (Minas Morgul)
GK Bain (Erebor) e
DF Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
FW Tulkas (Valimar)
FW Tar Miriel (Romenna) e
MOST GOALS SCORED
5
**FW Miriel (Tuna) e
4
**FW Turin (Dor-Lomin)
**FW Scatha (Mirkwood)
3
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
**FW Ancalagon (Angband)
**FW Witch King (Minas Morgul)
*FW Nogwolf (TIG)
*FW Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
*FW Finwe (Tuna) e
*FW Glorfindel (Eregion) e
*FW Eorl (Edoras) e
FW Tar Minastir (Armenelos)
FW Castamir (Minas Morgul)
FW Araphor (Arnor) e
MOST ASSISTS SCORED
4
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
FW Nerdanel (Tuna) e
3
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
*MF Hurin (Angband)
*MF Phantomwolf (TIG)
*FW Beleg (Dor-Lomin)
*FW Finwe (Tuna) e
MF Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
MF Earendil (Eregion) e
MF Mardil (Minas Tirith) e
MF Nazgul #7 (Erebor) e
FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood)
FW Eowyn (Edoras) e
the phantom
06-25-2009, 12:20 PM
It has been decided that two "neutral" locations with excellent facilities and a history of strong (and non-violent) support for football matches will host the quarterfinals- Gondolin and Rivendell. The four teams from Beleriand will go to nearby Gondolin, while the four teams either West of the sea or East of the Misty Mountains will come together in Rivendell.
QUARTERFINAL MATCHES
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth (at Gondolin)
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum (at Gondolin)
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul (at Rivendell)
Mirkwood vs Valimar (at Rivendell)
Hakon
06-25-2009, 01:03 PM
Ah, I can see the problem. Hope that takes care of it, Skip. :)
I've got the full list of leading point-getters and goal/assist scorers ready now, so I'll throw that up right after I put the Phantasy points and standing up and we'll be ready to take trades.
Again, 8 star limit, no more than 3 players from one team, and use a legal formation (3-5-2 and 3-4-3 are not legal).
Is a 2-5-3 formation legal? I know the 3-5-2 is, I am wondering about reversing it. It's at this point in the competition when non starred defense is very hard to find.
Eönwë
06-25-2009, 01:23 PM
Heh. As of right now I have Carcharoth, Phantomwolf, and Feanor as my team. The jury is still out on Mardil. Everyone else? Gone.
I have less. Eonwe. That's it, I believe.
phantom, I allowed to have a 3-man team?
Boromir88
06-25-2009, 01:41 PM
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
---------------------------------------------
Alright make sure this is legal...
--*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
--DF- Indis (Tuna)
++*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
++*DF- Uldor (Angband)
-----------------------------------------------
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Uldor (Angband)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
So, if I'm not exactly set with this...would I be able to trade Eonwe and Uldor back in for other players?
the phantom
06-25-2009, 03:13 PM
phantom, I allowed to have a 3-man team?
You'll still have 11 players- it's just that 8 of them will be deadwood. As a matter of fact, everyone is going to have some deadwood on their team.
Is a 2-5-3 formation legal?
These are the legal formations for Phantasy teams-
5-4-1
4-5-1
3-6-1
4-4-2
4-3-3
So, if I'm not exactly set with this...would I be able to trade Eonwe and Uldor back in for other players?
So long as you start the next round with 9 of your team members the same as last round, you are fine.
And speaking of which...
Hakon- we're in the playoffs now, so you're only allowed TWO trades. Nine of your roster spots must remain the same.
Hakon
06-25-2009, 03:20 PM
Oh. Sorry about that with the team. I misunderstood, I thought you had to bring on new players to replace the ones that were from teams no longer in the competition. Since I am only allowed two trades, I will bring on Feanor and Eonwe. I will drop my deadwoods of Miriel and Finwe.
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)
Eönwë
06-25-2009, 03:38 PM
ok, then
Swap Miriel for Feanor
Swap Glaurung for Melkor
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)
-DF- Amras (Tuna)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
**MF Melkor (Valimar)
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) (C)
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
*FW- Finwe (Tuna)
Shastanis Althreduin
06-25-2009, 03:43 PM
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Mardil (Minas Tirith)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum)
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Drop Miriel and Nerdanel.
Add Scatha and Sauron.
?????
Profit.
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Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Mardil (Minas Tirith)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Scatha (Mirkwood)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
the phantom
06-25-2009, 04:37 PM
Fun analysis on the game thread, Boro. :)
Everyone else- do the same please!
I don't mean you have to write big long pre-match breakdowns, but you should at least make predictions, for they are worth points!
Each quarterfinal prediction is worth two points, so that's eight points out there for the taking! Those points can take the spot of a missing player (and I know all of you are missing players).
Nogrod
06-25-2009, 05:28 PM
Fun analysis on the game thread, Boro. :)
Heh... agreed!
And Boro, you're doing just splendidly in the game! I need to take some risks to catch you now with your eight players fresh and scoring for you already before the changes...
I need to change the forwards at this phase (on these semifinals I don't trust any defence to hold as all the forwards of any of the opponents are just too unpredictably strong)
So off with **Miriel and -Nerdanel (my heart weeps indeed, the best players in this tournament...) and two stars worth of "money" to spend.
In with... hmm... *Eonwë of Valimar (who will receive the captaincy from Miriel) and *Beleg of Dor-Lomin...
Noggerball (the obsolete players in italics)
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
*FW- Eonwë (Valimar) (C)
*FW- Beleg (Dor Lomin)
And my predictions on the matches:
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth - TIG wins!
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum - Dor Lomin wins!
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul - Armenelos wins
Mirkwood vs Valimar - Valimar wins
Hakon
06-25-2009, 05:42 PM
My predictions are below.
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth - Angband wins
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum - Hithlum Wins
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul - Armenelos wins
Mirkwood vs Valimar - Valimar wins
Boromir88
06-25-2009, 06:43 PM
Fun analysis on the game thread, Boro.
Heh... agreed!
Haha, thanks. I'm very proud of myself for skim Miruvor and Mogboro's. :p
And you know Nogrod, it's clear I've been gravely under-estimating Dor-Lomin's potential all year (I didn't even have 'em making it out of group play!), so if Hithlum is defeated, I'm in trouble and the door's open. ;) I'll tell you too, I'm not so great at the NCAA March Madness that we have in the US. I usually start out of the gates really hot the 1st couple rounds, but once it gets down to 16, and the Elite 8, everything breaks down. That is when I start hoping everyone else's Tourney brackets just start getting messed up. :p
Edoras and Minas Morgul was a tough one too call, that was virtually a toss-up for me, and that hurt some people. But the real killer had to be Mirkwood's surprising win over Tuna, no one saw that one coming!
Nogrod
06-25-2009, 07:08 PM
But the real killer had to be Mirkwood's surprising win over Tuna, no one saw that one coming!Absolutely! Túna won the shots 20-13! Anyway... that was a killer for many, me included. :(
But this is a risk-taking game... Last year I was doing pretty good as well (not this good) and went on for real risks (eg. choosing different than other people did) and lost heavily in the end. I have a bad feeling about this one as well, but the one who is afraid should not gamble! :p
Nerwen
06-25-2009, 10:08 PM
Well, my team's in trouble... but did anyone expect Mirkwood to beat Túna? Aiii!:eek:
And I'm only allowed two trades...
I'll drop Elros and Felarof and add Carcharoth and Caranthir.
Nerwen's Nitpickers
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C)
Eliminated players in italics.
Nerwen
06-25-2009, 10:13 PM
And now– predictions.
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth– Winner: Angband.
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum– Winner: Hithlum.
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul - Winner: Armenelos.
Mirkwood vs Valimar: Winner: Valimar.
And if I'm wrong on any of this, I'm in big trouble!:rolleyes:
Shastanis Althreduin
06-25-2009, 10:51 PM
Boo, Nerwen! You lose points for taking my goalie. :(
Shasta's Predictions
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth– Winner: Angband.
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum– Winner: Hithlum.
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul - Winner: Armenelos.
Mirkwood vs Valimar: Winner: Mirkwood.
Eönwë
06-26-2009, 01:20 PM
Boo, Nerwen! You lose points for taking my goalie. :(
Well at least no-one took your captain.
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth - Tol-in Gaurhoth wins (A hard one)
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum - Hithlum wins
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul - Armenelos wins
Mirkwood vs Valimar - Valimar wins
skip spence
06-26-2009, 01:21 PM
Transfers:
Celebrimbor out; Alatar in
Finwë out; Melkor in
Jeez, Phantom, it seems cruel that we were allowed unlimited trades when we didn't really need them, but only two now when you'd trade an arm for a decent goalie!
Shadwell Army
-GK- Aule (Tuna) 2
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 2
*DF Alatar (Valimar)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband) 1
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum) 0
-MF- Arien (Valimar) 4
**MF Melkor (Valimar) (C)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum)
Predictions:
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth– Winner: T-i-G
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum– Winner: Hithlum.
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul - Winner: Armenelos.
Mirkwood vs Valimar: Winner: Valimar. (they'd better!)
McCaber
06-26-2009, 02:06 PM
So I picked the good teams, but terrible players. Ah well. With my two trades, I have just around a full team. Let's see if they can play like they mean it in the quarters.
--Earendil (Eregion)
--Celebrimbor (Eregion)
++Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
++Gloredhel (Dor-Lomin)
The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
-DF- Gloredhel (Dor-Lomin)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW- Maeglin (Angband)
My picks:
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth - While I would love to say Angband, they just don't have the stopping power this year without Melkor or their legions of Balrogs. T-i-G
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum - Dor-Lomin got farther than I expected them to, but Hithlum is on top. Hithlum
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul - Now this is a matchup. Numenoreans vs. Nazgul, Men vs. Orcs, and Sauron vs. the Witch King. Armenelos
Mirkwood vs Valimar - Mirkwood has a good all-around roster, emphasizing teamwork between Men, Elves, and Worse things. Valimar has near-divine power on their side. I know who I'm going for. Valimar
Boromir88
06-26-2009, 02:56 PM
Alright, one little adjustment. I had taken out Indis and put in Uldor. Uldor got some extra points last time because of an assist...so I think it's actually the right time to remove *DF-Uldor (Angband) and replace him with his fellow teammate *DF- Drauglin (Angband).
Hoping it's actually Drauglin's turn on the team to pick up some extra points with an assist...hmm or even a goal! :p So...
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Drauglin (Angband)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Shastanis Althreduin
06-26-2009, 03:17 PM
I'm surprised you didn't get rid of your two deadwood players, Boro.
the phantom
06-26-2009, 03:28 PM
He did, Shasta. He had four dead players- now he has two. His Uldor trade for Drauglin was basically just taking back his Indis for Uldor trade and making it Indis for Drauglin instead.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-27-2009, 05:03 AM
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth (at Gondolin) - Angband
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum (at Gondolin) - Hithlum
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul (at Rivendell) - Armenelos
Mirkwood vs Valimar (at Rivendell) - Valimar
Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-27-2009, 05:10 AM
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)
GK - Huor (Dor-Lomin)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
-DF- Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Ulfast (Angband)
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
**MF - Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Varda (Taniquetil)
**FW- Ancalagon (Angband)
*FW- SPMwolf (T-I-G)
Getting rid of Elrond** and Elrohir and adding Melkor** (Valimar) and Huor (Dor-Lomin).
Gwathagor
06-27-2009, 11:02 AM
Ok, sorry I was gone and didn't get the message about my invalid formation. Oops. So, the question is, should I conduct my trades now based on the latest valid formation I had used?
the phantom
06-27-2009, 01:33 PM
Interesting dilemma, Gwath. Hmm... you currently have 3-5-2, so if you traded one of your dead FWs (Miriel or Nerdanel) for a MF, you'd have a legal formation, or you could trade one of your dead MFs (Earendil or Glaurung) for a DF and have a legal formation.
So just work with the roster you have and you should be able to change it just fine with your two allotted trades.
Hakon
06-27-2009, 02:04 PM
I am just curious, why are 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 illegal formations?
the phantom
06-27-2009, 02:32 PM
Primarily to encourage diversity. If those formations were legal I figure everyone would use them to minimize defenders and maximize potential scorers. I figure if you're going to use the minimum number of defenders you shouldn't get to pick up more than one forward. Maybe we'll change it for next time, maybe not.
wilwarin538
06-28-2009, 07:00 AM
ok...
Miriel for Feanor and Felarof for Alatar
so
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
*DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Erebor)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Beleg (Dor-lomin)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)
Predictions:
Angband vs Tol-in-Gaurhoth (at Gondolin) - TIG
Dor-Lomin vs Hithlum (at Gondolin) - Hithlum
Armenelos vs Minas Morgul (at Rivendell) - Minas Morgul
Mirkwood vs Valimar (at Rivendell) - Valimar
mormegil
06-28-2009, 09:24 AM
*GK- Mormwolf (TIG)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul)
-DF Elfwine (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Finarfin (Tuna)
**FW- Melkor (Valimar)
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin) (C)
-FW- Eowyn (Edoras)
Melkor for Finwe
Turin for Miriel
Wow! Only 5 active players. Predictions:
TIG over Angband
Dor-Lomin with Turin scoring 3 goals
Minas Morgul with a death on the field
Valimar with Melkor whipping his chains at the opponents…
If all that happens I may have a decent team for the Semi-finals.
Hakon
06-28-2009, 11:18 AM
Morm, Melkor is a midfielder not a forward.
Nogrod
06-28-2009, 12:57 PM
Morm, Melkor is a midfielder not a forward.Right. But then again 4-4-2 is a legal formation as well... :p
Gwathagor
06-28-2009, 03:47 PM
Drop Miriel and Glaurung. Add Feanor and Eonwe.
GK – Theoden (Edoras)
DF – Felarof* (Edoras)
DF – Indis (Tuna)
DF – Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
MF –Tilion (Valimar)
MF – Earendil (Eregion)
MF – Phantomwolf* (TIG)
MF – Melkor** (Valimar)
FW - Feanor** (Hithlum)
FW - Nerdanel (Tuna)
FW – Eonwe* (Valimar)
Predictions:
Valimar beats Mirkwood.
Hithlum beats Dor-Lomin.
Armenelos beats Minas Morgul.
TIG beats Angband.
mormegil
06-28-2009, 07:45 PM
Morm, Melkor is a midfielder not a forward.
Laziness on my part :p:D
the phantom
06-29-2009, 09:20 AM
Here are the Phantasy teams entering the quarterfinals. Gwath- I see you didn't heed my trade advice (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=601813&postcount=282) and changed your team from an illegal 3-5-2 to an illegal 3-4-3. If you don't get it changed in time it will be another penalty.
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Drauglin (Angband)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Noggerball
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) (C)
*FW- Beleg (Dor-Lomin)
Hakon's Hottest Haters
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Mardil (Minas Tirith)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Scatha (Mirkwood)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Nerwen's Nitpickers
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) (C)
**FW- Miriel (Tuna)
Shadwell Army
-GK- Aule (Tuna)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband)
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar) (C)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum)
Gwath's Lynch Mob
-GK– Theoden (Edoras)
*DF– Felarof (Edoras)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
-DF– Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-MF– Tilion (Valimar)
-MF– Earendil (Eregion)
*MF– Phantomwolf (TIG)
**MF– Melkor (Valimar)
**FW– Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
-FW– Nerdanel (Tuna)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
TeeGee Ew United
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Thrain
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband)
*MF- Tar Calmacil (Armenelos)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
*FW- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin) (C)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
Monkey Stink
*GK- Mormwolf (TIG)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul)
-DF Elfwine (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Finarfin (Tuna)
**FW- Melkor (Valimar)
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin) (C)
-FW- Eowyn (Edoras)
The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
-DF- Gloredhel (Dor-Lomin)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW- Maeglin (Angband)
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)
-DF- Amras (Tuna)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) (C)
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
*FW- Finwe (Tuna)
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
*DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Erebor)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Beleg (Dor-lomin)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
-DF- Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Ulfast (Angband)
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Varda (Taniquetil)
**FW- Ancalagon (Angband) (C)
*FW- SPMwolf (TIG)
Boromir88
06-29-2009, 11:35 AM
@ Rivendell:
ARMENELOS
*GK- Tar Atanamir (4)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (4)
*DF- Tar Cirytan (4)
*DF- Tar Telperien (4)
-MF- Tar Calmacil (0)
-MF- Ar Gimilzor (1)
-MF- Tar Ancalimon (3)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (4)
-FW- Tar Minastir (4)
*FW- Sauron (4)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (0)
MINAS MORGUL
-GK- The Mouth (2)
-DF- Nazgul #1 (-1)
-DF- Gothmog II (0)
-DF- Nazgul #2 (-1)
*DF- Khamul (0)
-MF- Sangahyando (0)
-MF- Angamaite (0)
-MF- Beruthiel (-1)
-FW- Earnur (0)
-FW- Castamir (-1)
**FW- Witch King (0)
MIRKWOOD
-GK- Oropher (2)
-DF- Radagast (-1)
-DF- Treebeard (3)
*DF- Grimbeorn (0)
-MF- Bilbo (5)
-MF- Galion (0)
-MF- Fram (-1)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (3)
*FW- Legolas (0)
-FW- Thranduil (3)
**FW- Scatha (0)
VALIMAR
*GK- Ungolient (2)
*DF- Alatar (0)
*DF- Pallando (0)
*DF- Balrog #2 (-1)
*DF- Balrog #3 (0)
-MF- Balrog #4(-1)
-MF- Arien (0)
-MF- Tilion (4)
**MF- Melkor (7)
-FW- Tulkas (0)
*FW- Eonwe (0)
@ Gondolin
ANGBAND
*GK- Carcharoth (4)
-DF- Balrog #5 (-1)
-DF- Ulfast (-1)
*DF- Uldor (0)
*DF- Drauglin (0)
-MF- Telvildo (3)
-MF- Gwindor (2)
-MF- Thuringwethil (0)
*MF- Hurin (8)
*FW- Maeglin (8)
**FW- Ancalagon (0)
TOL-IN-GAURHOTH
*GK- Mormwolf (2)
*DF- Kuruwolf (-1)
*DF- Runewolf (0)
*DF- Skipwolf (0)
*MF- Wereomer (-1)
*MF- Lomwolf (-1)
*MF- Borowolf (-1)
*MF- Phantomwolf (5)
*FW- Nogwolf (3)
*FW- Gwathwolf (4)
*FW- SPMwolf (3)
Shastanis Althreduin
06-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Lost Players
Boro loses Beruthiel, Balrog #3, and Eonwe.
Nogrod loses Melkor and Eonwe.
Hakon loses Melkor, Tilion, and Eonwe.
Shasta loses Phantomwolf.
Nerwen loses Tilion.
Shadwell Army loses Alatar, Arien, and Melkor.
Gwath loses Tilion, Melkor, Eonwe, and Phantomwolf.
TGEW loses Tilion.
Morm loses Gothmog II, Tilion, Melkor, and Mormwolf.
McCaber loses Balrog #3 and Phantomwolf.
Eonwe loses Melkor and Eonwe.
Wilwa loses Alatar, Phantomwolf, and Tilion.
Eomer loses Melkor and SPMwolf.
mormegil
06-29-2009, 01:54 PM
Lost Players
Boro loses Beruthiel.
Morm loses Gothmog II.
As much as I hate losing a player Gothmog II has been garbage for me so not a big deal but man my team is dwindling quickly.
Nogrod
06-29-2009, 03:27 PM
Look at the bright side of it morm!
mormwolf is on the third place of the still playing characters in the AKM star-standings! Congrats!
And the Confederations Cup final was Brazil vs. the US. You can't complain whatever the result... :)
Hakon
06-29-2009, 03:48 PM
Mormwolf is out of the competition. TIG lost to Angband.
mormegil
06-29-2009, 03:51 PM
Mormwolf is out of the competition. TIG lost to Angband.
Yes he is *shakes his head* lousy defenders on TIG left me on an island too many times.
Hakon
06-29-2009, 04:16 PM
I am really really mad. Valimar just lost. I have one player on my team and one pending. I was relying on Valimar to get me somewhere. if Hithlum loses then I am screwed.
the phantom
06-29-2009, 04:35 PM
Final match will be posted when I get home in about 5 hours.
TheGreatElvenWarrior
06-29-2009, 05:21 PM
Final match will be posted when I get home in about 5 hours.
Dum Dum Dum Dum!
That's a bit scary yet exciting...
Boromir88
06-29-2009, 05:30 PM
Mirwood the giant slayers strike again. :eek:
*shrug* That's the way the cookie crumbles. :rolleyes:
Shastanis Althreduin
06-29-2009, 05:34 PM
VALIMAR LOST! VALIMAR LOST!
*celebrates*
Edit: Really, that should be...
MIRKWOOD WON! MIRKWOOD WON!
*celebrates*
Gwathagor
06-29-2009, 05:55 PM
Gwath- I see you didn't heed my trade advice (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=601813&postcount=282) and changed your team from an illegal 3-5-2 to an illegal 3-4-3. If you don't get it changed in time it will be another penalty.
Well, dang.
Hakon
06-29-2009, 07:00 PM
I need Hithlum to win. Otherwise I have only Ar Zimrathan on my team. How did Mirkwood win? I hope Aremenlos beats them.
Gwathagor
06-29-2009, 07:06 PM
Yeah, no way they should have won. I'm toast now.
Hakon
06-29-2009, 07:14 PM
I should have gone with my almost last minute change. Changing Eonwe to Turin. The important thing is to get points even if it means using dead wood players. If I am right about the way the next round matches will be, it is Aremenelos VS Mirkwood and Angband VS either Dor Lomin or Hithlum.
Nogrod
06-29-2009, 07:51 PM
How did Mirkwood win?Read the thread! There is quite a detailed account of how it happened! :rolleyes:
If I am right about the way the next round matches will be, it is Aremenelos VS Mirkwood and Angband VS either Dor Lomin or Hithlum.You are right. That's the game...
I think most of us are really in need of players right now - myself included... Darn surprises! But some may have gotten it nicely (dares not to check and leaves that to tp). :confused:
the phantom
06-29-2009, 08:16 PM
Well, that's it folks! The semi-finals are...
Angband versus Hithlum
Armenelos versus Mirkwood
You know what's weird? Two of last year's semifinal teams are back, and really it's kind of like three because Hithlum and Formenos from last year kind of got mixed together. And Angband and Hithlum matched up in the playoffs last year too.
You know what's even weirder? Boromir correctly predicted the scores of 7 of the 8 teams!! :eek: The only one he had wrong was Valimar. Serious kudos, Boro. That's got to be some kind of record.
Anyway, I'll get all the official points and whatnot up either late tonight or tomorrow morning. Feel free to make your predictions and TWO allowed trades. The star limit is NINE.
Nogrod
06-29-2009, 08:22 PM
Well, that's it folks! The semi-finals are...
Angband versus Hithlum
Armenelos versus MirkwoodAnd the first pair will take place in Gondolin and the second one in Rivendell... the teams and their fans are there already so why bother changing the venues? :)
the phantom
06-29-2009, 08:36 PM
ANGBAND
*GK- Carcharoth (4)
-DF- Balrog #5 (-1)
-DF- Ulfast (-1)
*DF- Uldor (0)
*DF- Drauglin (0)
-MF- Telvildo (3)
-MF- Gwindor (2)
-MF- Thuringwethil (0)
*MF- Hurin (8)
*FW- Maeglin (8)
**FW- Ancalagon (0)
ARMENELOS
*GK- Tar Atanamir (4)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (4)
*DF- Tar Cirytan (4)
*DF- Tar Telperien (4)
-MF- Tar Calmacil (0)
-MF- Ar Gimilzor (1)
-MF- Tar Ancalimon (3)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (4)
-FW- Tar Minastir (4)
*FW- Sauron (4)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (0)
DOR-LOMIN
-GK- Huor (2)
-DF- Gundor (-1)
-DF- Gloredhel (0)
-DF- Galdor (-1)
*DF- Marach (0)
-MF- Morwen (-1)
-MF- Nienor (0)
-MF- Hador (0)
-MF- Tuor (0)
*FW- Beleg (3)
**FW- Turin (4)
HITHLUM
*GK- Huan (4)
*DF- Annael (2)
*DF- Balrog #1 (2)
*DF- Caranthir (5)
*DF- Ulmo (2)
-MF- Finrod (5)
-MF- Fingon (4)
*MF- Fingolfin (3)
-FW- Aredhel (7)
*FW- Maedhros (0)
**FW- Feanor (-1)
MINAS MORGUL
-GK- The Mouth (2)
-DF- Nazgul #1 (-1)
-DF- Gothmog II (0)
-DF- Nazgul #2 (-1)
*DF- Khamul (0)
-MF- Sangahyando (0)
-MF- Angamaite (0)
-MF- Beruthiel (-1)
-FW- Earnur (0)
-FW- Castamir (-1)
**FW- Witch King (0)
MIRKWOOD
-GK- Oropher (2)
-DF- Radagast (-1)
-DF- Treebeard (3)
*DF- Grimbeorn (0)
-MF- Bilbo (5)
-MF- Galion (0)
-MF- Fram (-1)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (3)
*FW- Legolas (0)
-FW- Thranduil (3)
**FW- Scatha (0)
VALIMAR
*GK- Ungolient (2)
*DF- Alatar (0)
*DF- Pallando (0)
*DF- Balrog #2 (-1)
*DF- Balrog #3 (0)
-MF- Balrog #4 (-1)
-MF- Arien (0)
-MF- Tilion (4)
**MF- Melkor (7)
-FW- Tulkas (0)
*FW- Eonwe (0)
TOL-IN-GAURHOTH
*GK- Mormwolf (2)
*DF- Kuruwolf (-1)
*DF- Runewolf (0)
*DF- Skipwolf (0)
*MF- Wereomer (-1)
*MF- Lomwolf (-1)
*MF- Borowolf (-1)
*MF- Phantomwolf (5)
*FW- Nogwolf (3)
*FW- Gwathwolf (4)
*FW- SPMwolf (3)
Nogrod
06-29-2009, 09:00 PM
Heh, I have four players left in my team (Huan (GK), Balrog #5 (DF), Ar Zimrathan (DF) and Aredhel (FW)) and can change only two of the obsolete ones... Nice to know we can have nine stars... I'm never going to make it even near that limit... :(:D
The only thing I'm happy with is Fëanor's -1! Hah! There you have it! :rolleyes:
Boromir88
06-29-2009, 09:07 PM
You know what's even weirder? Boromir correctly predicted the scores of 7 of the 8 teams!! The only one he had wrong was Valimar. Serious kudos, Boro. That's got to be some kind of record.~tp
Wow...that is good :D but I'd still rather have a team that would have gotten more than 15 or 16 pts in this round when I started it with a clear advantage over most players.
The only thing I'm happy with is Fëanor's -1! Hah! There you have it!~Nogrod
How does the team get 3 goals, but it's leader and captain wind up with only a yellow to show for it? :rolleyes:
mormegil
06-29-2009, 09:12 PM
How about going 0-4 on the predictions and losing all active players from the roster :rolleyes::mad::(
Shastanis Althreduin
06-29-2009, 09:30 PM
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Mardil (Minas Tirith)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Scatha (Mirkwood)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
-----------------------------------
Drop Phantomwolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth) and Mardil (Minas Tirith). Add Hurin (Angband) and Thuringwethil (Angband).
-----------------------------------
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Scatha (Mirkwood)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Shastanis Althreduin
06-29-2009, 09:31 PM
Predictions:
Angband beats Hithlum
Mirkwood beats Armenelos
Shastanis Althreduin
06-29-2009, 09:38 PM
Non-deadweight Players
Boro - 7
TGEW - 7
McCaber - 7
"Shadwell Army" - 6
Eomer - 6
Nogrod - 4
Shasta - 4
Nerwen - 4
Hakon - 2
Gwath - 2
Wilwa - 2
Eonwe - 1
Morm - 0
This is before trades.
Nerwen
06-29-2009, 09:44 PM
How many trades do we get now?
Shastanis Althreduin
06-29-2009, 09:56 PM
Two.
the phantom
06-30-2009, 09:46 AM
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum) 4
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 4
*DF- Drauglin (Angband) 0
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar) 0
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 3
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul) -1
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 0
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) 0
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos) 4
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) -1
TOTAL POINTS- 14
Noggerball
*GK- Huan (Hithlum) 4
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) -1
*DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 4
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 0
**MF- Melkor (Valimar) 7
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond) 0
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) 7
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) (C) 0
*FW- Beleg (Dor-Lomin) 3
TOTAL POINTS- 24
Hakon's Hottest Haters
-GK- Theoden (Edoras) 0
*DF- Felarof (Edoras) 0
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 4
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras) 0
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 0
**MF- Melkor (Valimar) 7
-MF- Tilion (Valimar) 4
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) -1
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) 0
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna) 0
TOTAL POINTS- 13
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband) 4
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
-DF- Indis (Tuna) 0
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras) 0
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond) 0
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 0
-MF- Mardil (Minas Tirith) 0
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG) 5
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 4
**FW- Scatha (Mirkwood) 0
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) -1
TOTAL POINTS- 11
Nerwen's Nitpickers
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband) 4
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Indis (Tuna) 0
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum) 5
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband) 0
-MF- Tilion (Valimar) 4
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 0
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond) 0
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) (C) 4
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) 0
TOTAL POINTS- 21
Shadwell Army
-GK- Aule (Tuna) 0
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 4
*DF- Alatar (Valimar) 0
-MF- Telvildo (Angband) 3
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum) 3
-MF- Arien (Valimar) 0
**MF- Melkor (Valimar) (C) 7
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos) 0
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum -1
TOTAL POINTS- 25
Gwath's Lynch Mob
-GK– Theoden (Edoras) 0
*DF– Felarof (Edoras) 0
-DF– Indis (Tuna) 0
-DF– Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 4
-MF– Tilion (Valimar) 4
-MF– Earendil (Eregion) 0
*MF– Phantomwolf (TIG) 5
**MF– Melkor (Valimar) 7
**FW– Feanor (Hithlum) (C) -1
-FW– Nerdanel (Tuna) 0
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) 0
TOTAL POINTS- 18
TeeGee Ew United
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin) 2
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) -1
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 4
-DF- Thrain (Erebor) 0
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-MF- Telvildo (Angband) 3
-MF- Tar Calmacil (Armenelos) 0
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 4
*FW- Tilion (Valimar) 4
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin) (C) 4
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) 7
TOTAL POINTS- 33
Monkey Stink
*GK- Mormwolf (TIG) 2
*DF- Felarof (Edoras) 0
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul) 0
-DF Elfwine (Edoras) 0
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 0
-MF- Tilion (Valimar) 4
*MF- Finarfin (Tuna) 0
**FW- Melkor (Valimar) 7
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin) (C) 4
-FW- Eowyn (Edoras) 0
TOTAL POINTS- 21
The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) 4
-DF- Gloredhel (Dor-Lomin) 0
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar) 0
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras) 0
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) -1
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG) 5
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 4
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum) 4
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C) 0
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 4
*FW- Maeglin (Angband) 8
TOTAL POINTS- 28
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Theoden (Edoras) 0
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion) 0
-DF- Amras (Tuna) 0
-DF– Indis (Tuna) 0
*DF- Felarof (Edoras) 0
**MF- Melkor (Valimar 7
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith) 0
-MF- Earendil (Eregion) 0
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) (C) 0
**FW Feanor (Hithlum) -1
*FW- Finwe (Tuna) 0
TOTAL POINTS- 6
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners
-GK- Theoden (Edoras) 0
-DF- Indis (Tuna) 0
*DF- Alatar (Valimar) 0
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) 0
*DF- Nessa (Taniquetil) 0
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Erebor) 0
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG) 5
-MF- Tilion (Valimar) 4
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) -1
*FW- Beleg (Dor-lomin) 3
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna) 0
TOTAL POINTS- 10
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin) 2
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond) 0
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) 3
-DF- Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos) 4
-DF- Ulfast (Angband) -1
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum) 5
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum) 4
**MF- Melkor (Valimar) 7
-MF- Varda (Taniquetil) 0
**FW- Ancalagon (Angband) (C) 0
*FW- SPMwolf (TIG) 3
TOTAL POINTS- 27
POINTS FROM QUARTERFINALS
TeeGee Ew United- 33
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 28
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs- 27
Shadwell Army- 25
Noggerball- 24
Monkey Stink- 21
Nerwen's Nitpickers- 21
Gwath's Lynch Mob- 18
Boro's Blunderbusters- 14
Hakon's Hottest Haters- 13
Shasta's Risk Runners- 11
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners- 10
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 6
And now, let's add in your prediction points for this round as well as your points from previous rounds to get the up to date standings!
TOTAL POINT STANDINGS
Boro's Blunderbusters- 205
Noggerball- 205
Hakon's Hottest Haters- 184
TeeGee Ew United- 183
Shadwell Army- 181
Nerwen's Nitpickers- 180
Shasta's Risk Runners- 176
Gwath's Lynch Mob- 174
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 159
Monkey Stink- 154
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs- 149
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 129
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners- 129
the phantom
06-30-2009, 10:06 AM
Last round you could have scored nice points with this line.
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband) 4
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 4
*DF- Tar Cirytan (Armenelos) 4
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos) 4
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum) 5
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum) 5
-MF- Bilbo (Mirkwood) 5
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 8
**MF- Melkor (Valimar) 7
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) 7
*MF- Maeglin (Angband) 8 (C)
TOTAL POINTS- 69
Nogrod
06-30-2009, 11:22 AM
My team now - with obsolete players in italics...
Noggerball (quarterfinals)
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar) (C)
*FW- Beleg (Dor-Lomin)
Heh. Four players "alive".
So off with Eönwë and Beleg.
In with Sauron and... yes, Fëanor.
Resulting in the new team:
Noggerball (semifinals)
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum)
So should I predict the semis going for the jackpot (the way my team is constructed) or should I try to minimize the risks and predict counter to my team?
Heh, playing it safe is for the sissies... :p
Armenelos beats Mirkwood, Ilúvatar's blessing on team Mirkwood or not.
Angband loses to Hithlum - it's a tough match but Aredhel, Fëanor and Huan make the difference.
Wishful thinking? :)
PS. Haha, nine stars used!!!
EDIT: Added captaincy to Aredhel...
Boromir88
06-30-2009, 11:47 AM
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Drauglin (Angband)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
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--*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
--MF- Earendil (Eregion)
++*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenolos)
++*MF- Hurin (Angband)
----------------------------------------
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Drauglin (Angband)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenolos)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
-------------------------------------------
Hithlum defeats Angband.
Armenolos defeats Mirkwood.
the phantom
06-30-2009, 01:12 PM
(still working on this- I'll be editing it in as I go)
Remember, at the end of the tournament there are bonus points to be handed out to those who correctly predicted the various scoring leaders. Let's see where they're at right now.
(If a player has-> e next to them, their team is eliminated.)
MOST PHANTASY POINTS
30
**MF Melkor (Valimar) e
26
**FW Miriel (Tuna) e
24
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
23
**FW Turin (Dor-Lomin) e
22
*MF Hurin (Angband)
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood)
21
*FW Eonwe (Valimar) e
*FW Finwe (Tuna) e
MF Tilion (Valimar) e
20
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
*GK Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*FW Beleg (Dor-Lomin) e
MF Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
MF Earendil (Eregion) e
FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
19
**FW Scatha (Mirkwood)
FW Nerdanel (Tuna) e
18
**GK Elrond (Eregion) e
**FW Witch-King (Minas Morgul) e
*GK Ungoliant (Valimar) e
*MF Phantomwolf (TIG) e
*FW Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
*DF Felarof (Edoras) e
GK Theoden (Edoras) e
FW Tar Minastir (Armenelos)
17
*DF Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
*DF Curufin (Nargothrond) e
*MF Glaurung (Nargothrond) e
*MF Finarfin (Tuna) e
*FW SPMwolf (TIG) e
16
*GK Huan (Hithlum)
*GK Carcharoth (Angband)
*GK Mormwolf (TIG) e
*GK Elros (Romenna) e
MF Eldacar (Osgiliath) e
FW Castamir (Minas Morgul) e
FW Eowyn (Edoras) e
15
*DF Shadowfax (Edoras) e
*FW Maeglin (Angband)
*FW Nogwolf (TIG) e
*FW Eorl (Edoras) e
MF Nazgul #7 (Erebor) e
FW Araphor (Arnor) e
14
*DF Alatar (Valimar) e
*DF Balrog #3 (Valimar) e
*FW Gothmog (Gondolin) e
GK Huor (Dor-Lomin) e
GK Ecthelion II (Minas Tirith) e
GK Orodreth (Nargothrond) e
DF Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
MF Arien (Valimar) e
MF Thuringwethil (Angband)
MF Mardil (Minas Tirith) e
FW Boromir I (Minas Tirith) e
13
*DF Tar Cirytan (Armenelos)
*DF Pallando (Valimar) e
*DF Balrog #2 (Valimar) e
*MF Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
*MF Thorondor (Taniquetil) e
*MF Eol (Doriath) e
MF Beruthiel (Minas Morgul) e
MF Arwen (Lothlorien) e
12
**FW Ancalagon (Angband)
*GK Huan (Hithlum)
GK The Mouth (Minas Morgul) e
GK Aule (Tuna) e
MF Fingon (Hithlum)
11
**FW Smaug (Erebor) e
**FW Aragorn II (Minas Tirith) e
**DF Gandalf (Eregion) e
*DF Caranthir (Hithlum)
*DF Celebrimbor (Eregion) e
*DF Luthien (Nargothrond) e
*FW Maedhros (Hithlum)
*FW Glorfindel (Eregion) e
*FW Ecthelion (Gondolin) e
*FW Boromir II (Gondor) e
*FW Azog (Moria) e
DF Frealaf (Edoras) e
DF Elfwine (Edoras) e
MF Hador (Dor-Lomin) e
MF Varda (Taniquetil) e
MF Idril (Alqualonde) e
FW Eomer (Edoras) e
10
*DF Ulmo (Hithlum)
*FW Gwathwolf (TIG) e
*FW Isildur (Arnor) e
GK Oropher (Mirkwood)
GK Bain (Erebor) e
MF Tar Ancalimon (Armenelos)
MF Gwindor (Angband)
FW Tulkas (Valimar) e
FW Tar Miriel (Romenna) e
MOST GOALS SCORED
5
**Turin (Dor-Lomin) e
**FW Miriel (Tuna) e
4
**FW Scatha (Mirkwood)
FW Tar Minastir (Armenelos)
3
**MF Melkor (Valimar) e
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
**FW Ancalagon (Angband)
**FW Witch King (Minas Morgul) e
*FW Maeglin (Angband)
*FW Nogwolf (TIG) e
*FW Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW Finwe (Tuna) e
*FW Glorfindel (Eregion) e
*FW Eorl (Edoras) e
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood) e
FW Castamir (Minas Morgul) e
FW Araphor (Arnor) e
MOST ASSISTS SCORED
4
*MF Hurin (Angband)
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW Beleg (Dor-Lomin) e
FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
FW Nerdanel (Tuna) e
3
**MF Melkor (Valimar)
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
*MF Phantomwolf (TIG) e
*FW SPMwolf (TIG) e
*FW Finwe (Tuna) e
MF Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
MF Beruthiel (Minas Morgul) e
MF Earendil (Eregion) e
MF Mardil (Minas Tirith) e
MF Nazgul #7 (Erebor) e
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood)
FW Eowyn (Edoras) e
Shastanis Althreduin
06-30-2009, 01:35 PM
I'm quite disappointed that I predicted all the quarterfinals correctly and still fell in the standings. :(
skip spence
06-30-2009, 02:18 PM
Transfers:
Melkor out; Húrin in
Aüle out; Tar Atanamir in
Shadwell Army
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband)
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum) (C)
Predictions:
Hithlum defeats Angband.
Armenolos defeats Mirkwood.
Hakon
06-30-2009, 02:32 PM
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Hurin (Angband)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
Drop Eonwe and Nerdanel. Add Hurin and Aredhel.
Hithlum beats Angband and Aremenelos beats Mirkwood.
Nessa Telrunya
06-30-2009, 03:47 PM
I know I'm not playing, but I'm rooting for Mirkwood :)
the phantom
06-30-2009, 03:50 PM
Just to make sure everyone catches what I said earlier-
Star Limit = 9
mormegil
06-30-2009, 07:55 PM
Add Feanor and Sauron
Remove Eowyn and Melkor
*GK- Mormwolf (TIG)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul)
-DF Elfwine (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Finarfin (Tuna)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin)
**FW- Feanor(Hithlum) (C)
Hithlum and Armenelos win
Nerwen
06-30-2009, 09:02 PM
Nerwen's Nitpickers
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) (C)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum)
Trades: Miriel, Glaurung out; Fingolfin, Feanor in.
Winners: Armenelos, Hithlum.
Hakon
06-30-2009, 09:15 PM
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Sauron (Aremenelos)
Earlier I switched out Nerdanel for Aredhel, I am changing Aredhel to Sauron.
McCaber
07-02-2009, 02:39 AM
Alright. Let's try and pull some honor from this defeat. Two trades, nine stars, and it's on.
-- Phantomwolf (T-i-G)
-- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
++ Caranthir (Hithlum)
++ Hurin (Angband)
The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
-DF- Gloredhel (Dor-Lomin)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW- Maeglin (Angband)
And my picks:
Armenelos over Mirkwood
Angband over Hithlum
Eomer of the Rohirrim
07-02-2009, 01:14 PM
Angband and Armenelos to play out the final.
Shastanis Althreduin
07-02-2009, 01:40 PM
I almost don't want Hurin now, now that everyone else is picking him up. Copycats. <_<
Eönwë
07-02-2009, 01:47 PM
Swap Theoden for Tar Atanamir and Finwe for Aredhel
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
*GK Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)-
-DF- Amras (Tuna)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
**FW Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
Hithlum and Armenelos win
Hakon
07-02-2009, 04:59 PM
The only reason I picked Sauron to come on my team over Aredhel was I saw that Boro did not have Aredhel on his team. I am following Boro as best I can since he has predicted almost all the scores exactly right. He is good at this.
TheGreatElvenWarrior
07-02-2009, 08:13 PM
I am a bit sad because I had to take Turin off my team...
Gwathagor
07-02-2009, 11:13 PM
Drop Eonwe, drop Nerdanel.
Add Hurin, add Nazgul #6.
GK - Theodeon
DF - Felarof* (Edoras)
DF - Indis (Tuna)
DF - Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
MF - Tilion (Valimar)
MF - Earendil (Eregion)
MF - Phantomwolf* (TIG)
MF - Hurin* (Angband)
MF - Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
MF - Melkor** (Valimar)
FW - Feanor** (Hithlum)
Boromir88
07-03-2009, 10:49 AM
The only reason I picked Sauron to come on my team over Aredhel was I saw that Boro did not have Aredhel on his team. I am following Boro as best I can since he has predicted almost all the scores exactly right. He is good at this.~Hakon
Haha, thanks...but you should watch out because clearly I've spent the last 4-5 days thinking Melkor played for Angband...and afterall I only scored 14 pts last week...but Sauron did get a goal. :)
Nogrod
07-03-2009, 11:25 AM
The only reason I picked Sauron to come on my team over Aredhel was I saw that Boro did not have Aredhel on his team. I am following Boro as best I can since he has predicted almost all the scores exactly right. He is good at this.If you have the same players as Boro it means you score the same points and you'll never be able to outscore him making catching that twenty point lead impossible... :rolleyes:
the phantom
07-03-2009, 11:49 AM
Everyone has had plenty of time to make their switches, so....
Let the semi-finals begin!! :) :cool:
the phantom
07-03-2009, 01:31 PM
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Drauglin (Angband)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Noggerball
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum)
Hakon's Hottest Haters
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
TeeGee Ew United
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband)
-MF- Tar Calmacil (Armenelos)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*FW- Legolas (Mirkwood) (C)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
Nerwen's Nitpickers
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) (C)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum)
Shadwell Army
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband)
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum) (C)
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
*MF- Hurin (Hithlum)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Scatha (Mirkwood)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Gwath's Lynch Mob
-GK– Theoden (Edoras)
*DF– Felarof (Edoras)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
-DF– Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-MF– Tilion (Valimar)
-MF– Earendil (Eregion)
*MF– Phantomwolf (TIG)
**MF– Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
**FW– Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
-DF- Gloredhel (Dor-Lomin)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW- Maeglin (Angband)
Monkey Stink
*GK- Mormwolf (TIG)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul)
-DF Elfwine (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Finarfin (Tuna)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
-DF- Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Ulfast (Angband)
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Varda (Taniquetil)
**FW- Ancalagon (Angband) (C)
*FW- SPMwolf (TIG)
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)
-DF- Amras (Tuna)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
**FW Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
*DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Erebor)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Beleg (Dor-lomin)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)
Hakon
07-03-2009, 03:17 PM
If you have the same players as Boro it means you score the same points and you'll never be able to outscore him making catching that twenty point lead impossible... :rolleyes:
I know but I cannot have the same players as Boro. I have more dead woods than him. My point is that I want my team to be similar to his. Plus he is already in the lead, we just happen to have the exact same forwards. Although I did manage in round 3 to do great because I did not let a different team influence mine. I also thought over it real well. Hmm.
Gwathagor
07-03-2009, 03:25 PM
Maybe it's too late, but here are my predictions.
Armenelos beats Mirkwood.
Hithlum beats Angband.
Hakon
07-03-2009, 03:38 PM
I think a whole lot of us are relying on Hithlum to beat Angband. Most of us predicted Hithlum would win the tournament.
Shastanis Althreduin
07-03-2009, 04:19 PM
Phantom, you didn't get my changes... I switched out Mardil and your own self for Hurin and Thuringwethil...
Boromir88
07-03-2009, 04:37 PM
The good news is there is a match for 3rd place, for the two losers, so I don't think we can lose anymore players...giving those a little behind a chance to actually get rid of some of their deadwood.
Nogrod
07-03-2009, 05:05 PM
The good news is there is a match for 3rd place, for the two losers, so I don't think we can lose anymore players...giving those a little behind a chance to actually get rid of some of their deadwood.That's true. If the phantom let's us make two changes before the finals quite a many of us could easily get rid of two obsolete players and take possible point-makers in as the four teams would be the same as on this semifinal round.
First semifinal result coming in soon to your door...
Boromir88
07-03-2009, 06:03 PM
ANGBAND
*GK- Carcharoth (4)
-DF- Balrog #5 (-1)
-DF- Ulfast (0)
*DF- Uldor (0)
*DF- Drauglin (0)
-MF- Telvildo (0)
-MF- Gwindor (2)
-MF- Thuringwethil (-1)
*MF- Hurin (0)
*FW- Maeglin (4)
**FW- Ancalagon (0)
ARMENELOS
*GK- Tar Atanamir (6)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (3)
*DF- Tar Cirytan (4)
*DF- Tar Telperien (10)
-MF- Tar Calmacil (1)
-MF- Ar Gimilzor (0)
-MF- Tar Ancalimon (0)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (6)
-FW- Tar Minastir (0)
*FW- Sauron (3)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (3)
HITHLUM
*GK- Huan (2)
*DF- Annael (2)
*DF- Balrog #1 (2)
*DF- Caranthir (2)
*DF- Ulmo (2)
-MF- Finrod (0)
-MF- Fingon (-1)
*MF- Fingolfin (5)
-FW- Aredhel (2)
*FW- Maedhros (4)
**FW- Feanor (6)
MIRKWOOD
-GK- Oropher (2)
-DF- Radagast (0)
-DF- Treebeard (-1)
*DF- Grimbeorn (0)
-MF- Bilbo (-1)
-MF- Galion (0)
-MF- Fram (-1)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (0)
*FW- Legolas (0)
-FW- Thranduil (0)
**FW- Scatha (0)
Hakon
07-03-2009, 06:15 PM
I hope Aredhel does really well I am going to hate this. I mean I dumped the guy for Sauron who barely preformed. I don't think anyone had Tar Telperien. Which is good in my opinion.
Nogrod
07-03-2009, 07:15 PM
I don't think anyone had Tar Telperien. Which is good in my opinion.I had her all through the tournament last year and I just can't bring me back into seeing why I didn't pick her this year when I had a chance (meaning early in the tournament)...! :(
I mean I just wailed on this already a few rounds ago, but when reduced to two changes you rarely change defenders... :rolleyes:
btw. Aredhel is not a guy, she's a girly... the White Lady of Gondolin to be more exact... :p
Hakon
07-03-2009, 07:19 PM
She is like Curufin got one lucky round where she scored ten points.
Nogrod
07-03-2009, 07:25 PM
She is like Curufin got one lucky round where she scored ten points.I wouldn't say so. She already had 17 points before this round while the next best defender in the team had 14. So she had already passed a goal before (three points). And last year she was just phenomenal... :D
Hakon
07-03-2009, 07:32 PM
I think I might add her to my team.
the phantom
07-03-2009, 07:48 PM
Your predictions count, Gwath.
Shasta- that's weird. I swear I edited those in. Oh well- they're in now.
Hakon
07-04-2009, 12:16 PM
Hurin was a big let down. He got me zero points. At least Feanor preformed well. I am glad I went with that investment of Sauron over Aredhel payed with one extra point.
Boromir88
07-04-2009, 12:43 PM
Sauron isn't flashy like Miriel, but he consistantly gets points every game, hence why he is near the top. :D
Hakon
07-04-2009, 01:35 PM
Yep. I just hope Hurin preforms next match.
the phantom
07-04-2009, 04:24 PM
Extremely busy weekend here in Phantomville, but I will get official point standings and stats and such up eventually. If I'm lucky, tomorrow afternoon. More than likely it'll be in the evening/night. Worst case scenario, the following afternoon.
skip spence
07-05-2009, 10:34 AM
Arien and Elfwine out
*Maeglin and Ulfast in
Shadwell Army
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
-DF- Ulfast (Angband)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband)
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Maeglin (Angband)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum) (C)
Predictions:
Hithlum to beat Armenelos
Angband to beat Mirkwood
Boromir88
07-05-2009, 06:06 PM
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Drauglin (Angband)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenolos)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
-----------------------------------------------------------
--MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
--*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
++FW- Thranduil (Mirkwood)
++*DF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Drauglin (Angband)
*DF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenolos)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
-FW- Thranduil (Mirkwood)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Hithlum defeats Armenolos
Mirkwood defeats Angband
the phantom
07-06-2009, 09:25 AM
ANGBAND
*GK- Carcharoth (4)
-DF- Balrog #5 (-1)
-DF- Ulfast (0)
*DF- Uldor (0)
*DF- Drauglin (0)
-MF- Telvildo (0)
-MF- Gwindor (2)
-MF- Thuringwethil (-1)
*MF- Hurin (0)
*FW- Maeglin (4)
**FW- Ancalagon (0)
ARMENELOS
*GK- Tar Atanamir (6)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (3)
*DF- Tar Cirytan (4)
*DF- Tar Telperien (10)
-MF- Tar Calmacil (1)
-MF- Ar Gimilzor (0)
-MF- Tar Ancalimon (0)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (6)
-FW- Tar Minastir (0)
*FW- Sauron (3)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (3)
HITHLUM
*GK- Huan (2)
*DF- Annael (2)
*DF- Balrog #1 (2)
*DF- Caranthir (2)
*DF- Ulmo (2)
-MF- Finrod (0)
-MF- Fingon (-1)
*MF- Fingolfin (5)
-FW- Aredhel (2)
*FW- Maedhros (4)
**FW- Feanor (6)
MIRKWOOD
-GK- Oropher (2)
-DF- Radagast (0)
-DF- Treebeard (-1)
*DF- Grimbeorn (0)
-MF- Bilbo (-1)
-MF- Galion (0)
-MF- Fram (-1)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (0)
*FW- Legolas (0)
-FW- Thranduil (0)
**FW- Scatha (0)
the phantom
07-06-2009, 10:03 AM
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum) 2
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 3
*DF- Drauglin (Angband) 0
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 0
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 6
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 0
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos) 3
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 6
TOTAL POINTS- 28
Noggerball
*GK- Huan (Hithlum) 2
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) -1
*DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 3
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) (C) 2
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) 6
TOTAL POINTS- 17
Hakon's Hottest Haters
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 3
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 0
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 6
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
TOTAL POINTS- 18
TeeGee Ew United
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) -1
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 3
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) -1
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-MF- Telvildo (Angband) 0
-MF- Tar Calmacil (Armenelos) 1
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 6
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*FW- Legolas (Mirkwood) (C) 0
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) 2
TOTAL POINTS- 12
Nerwen's Nitpickers
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband) 4
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum) 2
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband) -1
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum) 5
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) (C) 3
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) 6
TOTAL POINTS- 22
Shadwell Army
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) 6
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 2
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 3
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband) 0
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum) 5
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 0
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos) 3
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum) (C) 6
TOTAL POINTS- 31
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband) 4
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband) -1
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 0
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
**FW- Scatha (Mirkwood) 0
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 6
TOTAL POINTS- 18
Gwath's Lynch Mob
-GK– Theoden (Edoras)
*DF– Felarof (Edoras)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
-DF– Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 3
-MF– Tilion (Valimar)
-MF– Earendil (Eregion)
*MF– Phantomwolf (TIG)
**MF– Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 0
*MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 0
**FW– Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 6
TOTAL POINTS- 15
The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) 6
-DF- Gloredhel (Dor-Lomin)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum) 2
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) -1
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 0
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 6
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum) -1
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C) 4
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
*FW- Maeglin (Angband) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 27
Monkey Stink
*GK- Mormwolf (TIG)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul)
-DF Elfwine (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Finarfin (Tuna)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 6
TOTAL POINTS- 15
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) -1
-DF- Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos) 3
-DF- Ulfast (Angband) 0
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum) 0
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum) -1
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Varda (Taniquetil)
**FW- Ancalagon (Angband) (C) 0
*FW- SPMwolf (TIG)
TOTAL POINTS- 1
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) 6
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)
-DF- Amras (Tuna)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW- Eonwe (Valimar)
**FW Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 6
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) 2
TOTAL POINTS- 20
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) -1
*DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Erebor)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 6
*FW- Beleg (Dor-lomin)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)
TOTAL POINTS- 11
POINTS FROM SEMIFINALS
Shadwell Army- 31
Boro's Blunderbusters- 28
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 27
Nerwen's Nitpickers- 22
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 20
Hakon's Hottest Haters- 18
Shasta's Risk Runners- 18
Noggerball- 17
Monkey Stink- 15
Gwath's Lynch Mob- 15
TeeGee Ew United- 12
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners- 11
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs- 1
And now let's add in points from the tournament and predictions and see where we stand heading into the FINAL round of play!
TOTAL POINT STANDINGS
Boro's Blunderbusters- 241
Noggerball- 230
Shadwell Army- 220
Hakon's Hottest Haters- 210
Nerwen's Nitpickers- 210
TeeGee Ew United- 199
Gwath's Lynch Mob- 197
Shasta's Risk Runners- 194
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 190
Monkey Stink- 177
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 157
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs- 154
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners- 140
the phantom
07-06-2009, 10:36 AM
This team is one that would've done pretty well...
-GK- Oropher (Mirkwood) 2
-DF- Radagast (Mirkwood) 0
*DF- Drauglin (Angband) 0
*DF- Tar Ciryatan (Armenelos) 4
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos) (C) 10
-MF- Gwindor (Angband) 2
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum) 5
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 6
*FW- Maeglin (Angband) 4
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) 4
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) 6
TOTAL POINTS- 53
the phantom
07-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Remember, at the end of the tournament there are bonus points to be handed out to those who correctly predicted the various scoring leaders. Let's see where they're at right now.
(If a player has-> e next to them, their team is eliminated.)
MOST PHANTASY POINTS
30
**MF Melkor (Valimar) e
27
*DF Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
26
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
**FW Miriel (Tuna) e
*GK Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
23
**FW Turin (Dor-Lomin) e
22
*MF Hurin (Angband)
FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood)
21
*FW Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
*FW Eonwe (Valimar) e
*FW Finwe (Tuna) e
MF Tilion (Valimar) e
20
*GK Carcharoth (Angband)
*FW Beleg (Dor-Lomin) e
MF Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
MF Earendil (Eregion) e
19
**FW Scatha (Mirkwood)
*MF Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
*FW Maeglin (Angband)
FW Nerdanel (Tuna) e
18
**GK Elrond (Eregion) e
**FW Witch-King (Minas Morgul) e
*GK Huan (Hithlum)
*GK Ungoliant (Valimar) e
*MF Phantomwolf (TIG) e
*DF Felarof (Edoras) e
GK Theoden (Edoras) e
FW Tar Minastir (Armenelos)
17
*DF Tar Cirytan (Armenelos)
*DF Curufin (Nargothrond) e
*MF Glaurung (Nargothrond) e
*MF Finarfin (Tuna) e
*FW SPMwolf (TIG) e
DF Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
16
*GK Mormwolf (TIG) e
*GK Elros (Romenna) e
MF Eldacar (Osgiliath) e
FW Castamir (Minas Morgul) e
FW Eowyn (Edoras) e
15
*DF Shadowfax (Edoras) e
*FW Maedhros (Hithlum)
*FW Nogwolf (TIG) e
*FW Eorl (Edoras) e
MF Nazgul #7 (Erebor) e
FW Araphor (Arnor) e
14
*DF Alatar (Valimar) e
*DF Balrog #3 (Valimar) e
*FW Gothmog (Gondolin) e
GK Huor (Dor-Lomin) e
GK Ecthelion II (Minas Tirith) e
GK Orodreth (Nargothrond) e
MF Arien (Valimar) e
MF Mardil (Minas Tirith) e
FW Boromir I (Minas Tirith) e
13
*DF Caranthir (Hithlum)
*DF Pallando (Valimar) e
*DF Balrog #2 (Valimar) e
*MF Fingolfin (Hithlum)
*MF Thorondor (Taniquetil) e
*MF Eol (Doriath) e
MF Thuringwethil (Angband)
MF Beruthiel (Minas Morgul) e
MF Arwen (Lothlorien) e
12
**FW Ancalagon (Angband)
*GK Huan (Hithlum)
*DF Ulmo (Hithlum)
GK Oropher (Mirkwood)
GK The Mouth (Minas Morgul) e
GK Aule (Tuna) e
MF Gwindor (Angband)
11
**FW Smaug (Erebor) e
**FW Aragorn II (Minas Tirith) e
**DF Gandalf (Eregion) e
*DF Annael (Hithlum)
*DF Celebrimbor (Eregion) e
*DF Luthien (Nargothrond) e
*FW Glorfindel (Eregion) e
*FW Ecthelion (Gondolin) e
*FW Boromir II (Gondor) e
*FW Azog (Moria) e
DF Frealaf (Edoras) e
DF Elfwine (Edoras) e
MF Fingon (Hithlum)
MF Hador (Dor-Lomin) e
MF Varda (Taniquetil) e
MF Idril (Alqualonde) e
FW Eomer (Edoras) e
10
*DF Balrog #1 (Hithlum)
*FW Gwathwolf (TIG) e
*FW Isildur (Arnor) e
GK Bain (Erebor) e
MF Tar Ancalimon (Armenelos)
FW Tulkas (Valimar) e
FW Tar Miriel (Romenna) e
MOST GOALS SCORED
5
**Turin (Dor-Lomin) e
**FW Miriel (Tuna) e
4
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
**FW Scatha (Mirkwood)
*FW Maeglin (Angband)
FW Tar Minastir (Armenelos)
3
**MF Melkor (Valimar) e
**FW Ancalagon (Angband)
**FW Witch King (Minas Morgul) e
*FW Maedhros (Hithlum)
*FW Nogwolf (TIG) e
*FW Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW Finwe (Tuna) e
*FW Glorfindel (Eregion) e
*FW Eorl (Edoras) e
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood) e
FW Castamir (Minas Morgul) e
FW Araphor (Arnor) e
MOST ASSISTS SCORED
5
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
4
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
*MF Hurin (Angband)
*FW Beleg (Dor-Lomin) e
FW Nerdanel (Tuna) e
3
**MF Melkor (Valimar)
*MF Phantomwolf (TIG) e
*FW Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
*FW SPMwolf (TIG) e
*FW Finwe (Tuna) e
MF Gwindor (Angband)
MF Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
MF Beruthiel (Minas Morgul) e
MF Earendil (Eregion) e
MF Mardil (Minas Tirith) e
MF Nazgul #7 (Erebor) e
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood)
FW Eowyn (Edoras) e
the phantom
07-06-2009, 11:26 AM
For the Championship-
ARMENELOS versus HITHLUM
For the Bronze-
ANGBAND versus MIRKWOOD
Predict the winners for bonus points!
Use your two available trades.
Star limit is TEN.
Eönwë
07-06-2009, 11:58 AM
Swap Eonwe for Sauron
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)
-DF- Amras (Tuna)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
TOTAL POINTS- 20
Hakon
07-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Swap Curufin for Tar Telperien.
Swap Tilion for Aredhel. I am changing my formation.
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
FW-Aredhel(Hithlum)
Hithlum beats Aremenelos
Mirkwood beats Angband
I just realized Skip Spence and Boro have full teams. Lucky.
Nogrod
07-06-2009, 05:42 PM
Bah. How does one prevent those guys in the lead (or getting there with speed) to run away with these players and only two changes? :(
Hah. My own fault. I trusted Tal Telperien last year to the end and now I'm getting a real beating because I didn't this time... that Queen is just incredible! Just like I hoped she had been last year (well she was not bad then either)... But let's be realistic, she won't score twice in a row.
Okay. Boro and Skip both have Fëanor as their captain so to catch their fly I need to have someone else there as my captain, and just hope Fëanor mainly takes cards in the final...
Would it be Ar Pharazôn's turn to be the hero? Or will Aredhel handle it this time? Or the bronze-match? Nazgul #6, Thranduil, Scatha, Ancalagon, Thuringwethil rising on the occasion?
Or Tar-Atanamir making a shut-out once again? Or Huan finally making it in the tight spot? And Carcaroth has been just super the last rounds...
Needs to think it a bit.
Nogrod
07-07-2009, 07:51 AM
I will not change any player who is actually in the field in the finals. With only six possible point-scorers in my team that's pretty clear. (Well I could change Balrog#5 who has lately scored mainly negative points.) So my forwards are "locked".
With midfielders I could gladly go for Nazgul #6, Ar Adunakhôr or Húrin, but as Boro has them there is no point in choosing any of them. I only need to hope they are pathetic in the finals... a fool's hope. :)
But which of the other midfielders could rise to the occasion? Thuringwethil, Gwindor, Tar Ancalimôn, Fingon, Fingolfin, Bilbo...? Well they are all in the 10-point category (the ones Boro has are in the twenty-point category) but anyone could go for me as I have no current midfield at all. :(
Defenders are risky choices at this point as all the teams are good and can score so only a goal-making defender would be really worth the risk. But who would score? Tar Telperien once again? Maybe I need to go for the jackpot - a shut-out defence from Armenelos and Tar Telperien scoring... hmm... is that more likely than Gwindor making a difference (and not taking a card once more) in the bronze-match?
A shut-out goalie with six saves would be worth 8 points... But I have a playing goalie in Huan and just need to trust on him.
Okay here it goes then, some female power into my team, whatever comes:
Thuringwethil for Glaurung
Tar Telperien for Elfwine
Noggerball
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Eärendil (Eregion)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum)
And the predictions:
Angband beats Mirkwood
Armenelos wins Hithlum
mormegil
07-07-2009, 08:38 AM
Monkey Stink
*GK- Mormwolf (TIG)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul)
-DF Elfwine (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Tar Telperien for Curufin
Hurin for Finarfin
Angband beats Mirkwood
Armenelos beats Hithlum
Shastanis Althreduin
07-07-2009, 03:11 PM
Tar Telperien for Curufin and Nazgul #6 for Earendil.
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
-DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Scatha (Mirkwood)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Shastanis Althreduin
07-07-2009, 03:12 PM
Mirkwood and Hithlum win.
McCaber
07-07-2009, 03:31 PM
-- Gloredhel (Dor-Lomin)
-- Elfwine (Edoras)
++ Balrog #1 (Hithlum)
++ Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*DF- Balrog #1 (Hithlum)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum)
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW- Maeglin (Angband)
Picks:
Armenelos over Hithlum
Angband over Mirkwood
Boromir88
07-07-2009, 04:01 PM
Is it evil for me to think about spoiling everyone's fun an switching out Grimbeorn for Tar Telperien?
Gwathagor
07-08-2009, 10:22 AM
Drop Felarof and Phantomwolf.
Add Fingolfin and Tar Telperien.
-GK– Theoden (Edoras)
*DF– Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
-DF– Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-MF– Tilion (Valimar)
-MF– Earendil (Eregion)
*MF– Fingolfin (Hithlum)
*MF - Phantomwolf (TIG)
*MF- Hurin (Angband)
*MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
**FW– Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
Hithlum beats Armenelos.
Angband beat Mirkwood.
Eönwë
07-09-2009, 03:40 PM
Swap Indis for Tar Telperien
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)-
-DF- Amras (Tuna)-
*DF Tar Telperien (Armenelos)-
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)-
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)-
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith)-
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)-
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
Hithlum wins
Angband takes third place
the phantom
07-10-2009, 09:05 AM
Nerwen, Wilwa, and Eomer- the results will start rolling in late today or early tomorrow. If you want to trade or predict, get a move on.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
07-10-2009, 11:21 AM
Armenelos wins, Angband is third.
Nerwen
07-11-2009, 05:38 AM
Nerwen, Wilwa, and Eomer- the results will start rolling in late today or early tomorrow. If you want to trade or predict, get a move on.
Sorry, I've been internet-less for over a week. Just a moment...
Nerwen
07-11-2009, 05:59 AM
Nerwen's Nitpickers
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) (C)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum)
Drop Elfwine, Earendil; add Nazgul #6, Tar Telperien.
Predictions: Hithlum beats Armenelos. Angband beats Mirkwood.
Nogrod
07-11-2009, 04:29 PM
Heh, I was right in picking up Thuringwethil thinking that she would be having a big role in the game... but really, one assist and a yellow card to take one of the three points back? Phhwt... And being the nastiest player in the field to top that!
Well, Balrog #5 brought me two points as well.
So a total of four points from the first game!
(Well the game prediction went right anyway.)
So I'm afraid my chances of claiming the pole position are gone... if there ever were any after the first trades of the play-offs. :rolleyes:
the phantom
07-11-2009, 10:19 PM
And the final game is posted!
There are still points to be added up, and bonus points to be awarded, and quite a few special honors to give out, but most of that will have to wait until tomorrow.
Congrats to the champs! :)
Hakon
07-11-2009, 11:12 PM
I am so mad at Boro. I followed his predictions and was wrong. Did anyone even predict Aremenelos winning? Didn't we all say Hithlum? Ar Pharazon was good and I sadly dropped him earlier on.
Gwathagor
07-11-2009, 11:42 PM
Aw...dang it. Hithlum WOULD lose.
skip spence
07-12-2009, 07:31 AM
I'm just back from a week without internet and I'm quite pleased with how things played out. Had a pretty good last round methinks and it also looks like a couple of my pre-tournament predictions might be on the money.
Boro, did you already add up the scores?
Boromir88
07-12-2009, 07:51 AM
Yep, Skip, I've got the points added up. I'll be putting 'em up now, and I think tp will be adding all the bonus points to figure out the winner. :)
Don't be mad at me Hakon, I was doing great...until floundering right at the very end when it matters haha.
Boromir88
07-12-2009, 07:59 AM
ANGBAND
*GK- Carcharoth (4)
-DF- Balrog #5 (2)
-DF- Ulfast (2)
*DF- Uldor (2)
*DF- Drauglin (2)
-MF- Telvildo (0)
-MF- Gwindor (-1)
-MF- Thuringwethil (2)
*MF- Hurin (5)
*FW- Maeglin (7)
**FW- Ancalagon (0)
ARMENELOS
*GK- Tar Atanamir (4)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (1)
*DF- Tar Cirytan (2)
*DF- Tar Telperien (2)
-MF- Tar Calmacil (0)
-MF- Ar Gimilzor (-1)
-MF- Tar Ancalimon (0)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (0)
-FW- Tar Minastir (-1)
*FW- Sauron (3)
*FW- Ar Pharazon (8)
HITHLUM
*GK- Huan (2)
*DF- Annael (-1)
*DF- Balrog #1 (0)
*DF- Caranthir (0)
*DF- Ulmo (0)
-MF- Finrod (0)
-MF- Fingon (-1)
*MF- Fingolfin (0)
-FW- Aredhel (-1)
*FW- Maedhros (3)
**FW- Feanor (4)
MIRKWOOD
-GK- Oropher (0)
-DF- Radagast (0)
-DF- Treebeard (0)
*DF- Grimbeorn (0)
-MF- Bilbo (-1)
-MF- Galion (0)
-MF- Fram (0)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (5)
*FW- Legolas (0)
-FW- Thranduil (-1)
**FW- Scatha (3)
Boromir88
07-12-2009, 08:41 AM
Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum) 2
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 1
*DF- Drauglin (Angband) 2
*DF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood) 0
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 0
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 5
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenolos) 0
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 5
-FW- Thranduil (Mirkwood) -1
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos) 3
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 25
Noggerball
*GK- Huan (Hithlum) 2
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) 2
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos) 2
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 1
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Eärendil (Eregion)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband) 2
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) (C) -1
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 14
Shadwell Army
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) 4
-DF- Ulfast (Angband) 2
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 0
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 1
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband) 0
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum) 0
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 5
*FW- Maeglin (Angband) 7
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos) 8
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum) (C) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 35
Hakon's Hottest Haters
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF Tar Telperien (Armenelos) 2
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 1
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 5
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 4
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
FW-Aredhel(Hithlum) -1
TOTAL POINTS- 18
Nerwen's Nitpickers
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband) 4
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos) 2
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum) 0
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband) 2
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 5
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum) 0
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) (C) 3
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 23
TeeGee Ew United
*GK- Huan 2
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) 2
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 1
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) 0
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum) 0
-MF- Telvildo (Angband) 0
-MF- Tar Calmacil (Armenelos) 0
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 0
-MF- Bilbo (Mirkwood) -1
*FW- Legolas (Mirkwood) (C) 0
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) -1
TOTAL POINTS- 3
Gwath's Lynch Mob
-GK– Theoden (Edoras)
*DF– Tar Telperien (Armenelos) 2
-DF– Indis (Tuna)
-DF– Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos) 1
-MF– Tilion (Valimar)
-MF– Earendil (Eregion)
*MF– Fingolfin (Hithlum) 0
*MF - Phantomwolf (TIG)
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 5
*MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 5
**FW– Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 4
TOTAL POINT- 21
Shasta's Risk Runners
*GK- Carcharoth (Angband) 4
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Frealaf (Edoras)
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos) 2
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 5
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband) 2
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 5
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
**FW- Scatha (Mirkwood) 3
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 32
The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) 4
*DF- Balrog #1 (Hithlum) 0
*DF- Caranthir (Hithlum) 0
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos) 2
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband) 2
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 5
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 0
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum) -1
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C) 3
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
*FW- Maeglin (Angband) 7
TOTAL POINTS- 28
Monkey Stink
*GK- Mormwolf (TIG)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos) 2
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul)
-DF Elfwine (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 5
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos) 3
**FW- Turin (Dor-Lomin)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 18
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) 4
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)
-DF- Amras (Tuna)
*DF Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF Mardil (Minas Tirith)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*FW Sauron (Armenelos) 3
**FW Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 4
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum) -1
TOTAL POINTS- 14
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs
-GK- Huor (Dor-Lomin)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) 0
-DF- Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos) 1
-DF- Ulfast (Angband) 2
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum) 0
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum) -1
**MF- Melkor (Valimar)
-MF- Varda (Taniquetil)
**FW- Ancalagon (Angband) (C) 0
*FW- SPMwolf (TIG)
TOTAL POINTS- 2
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood) 0
*DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Erebor)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C) 4
*FW- Beleg (Dor-lomin)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)
TOTAL POINTS- 8
POINTS FROM FINALS
Shadwell Army- 35
Shasta's Risk Runners- 32
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 28
Boro's Blunderbusters- 25
Nerwen's Nitpickers- 23
Gwath's Lynch Mob- 21
Hakon's Hottest Haters- 18
Monkey Stink- 18
Noggerball- 14
Eonwe's Egregious Aggregate- 14
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners- 8
TeeGee Ew United- 2
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs- 2
TOTAL POINTS STANDINGS
Boro's Blunderbusters- 266
Shadwell Army- 255
Noggerball- 244
Nerwen's Nitpickers- 233
Hakon's Hottest Haters - 228
Shasta's Risk Runners- 226
Gwath's Lynch Mob- 218
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 218
TeeGee Ew United- 202
Monkey Stink- 195
Eonwe's Egregious Aggregate- 171
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs- 156
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners- 148
Now it's down to all the bonus points, will Skip complete his near unbelievable comeback? Or can Boro hold onto his slim, and diminishing lead? Or maybe all those bonus from predicting most points, goals, and assists will make a surprise winner out of those teams in the 220-240 range? You will have to hold your breath for the phantom to get those answers. :p
P.S. Individually make sure I've added your team's points up correctly, I've rechecked and rechecked (with a calculator too!) for the past day and a half, but I never trust myself when it comes to math.
P.P.S. Check out Skip's amazing forwards! I think that's the best possible combination, too bad Ar Pharazon wasn't your Captain. :D
Boromir88
07-12-2009, 08:51 AM
THE DREAMTEAM
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenolos) 4
-DF- Balrog #5 (Anband) 2
-DF- Ulfast (Angband) 2
*DF- Tar Telperien (Armenolos) 2
*DF- Tar Cirytan (Armenolos) 2
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum) 0
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood) 5
*MF- Hurin (Angband) 5
*FW- Maeglin (Angband) 7
*FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenolos) (C) 8
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) 4
TOTAL POINTS- 49
the phantom
07-12-2009, 11:18 AM
Boro-
TGEW updated her team via PM, so please edit this into your tallies.
TeeGee Ew United
*GK- Huan
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Telvildo (Angband)
-MF- Tar Calmacil (Armenelos)
*MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
-MF- Bilbo
*FW- Legolas (Mirkwood) (C)
-FW- Aredhel (Hithlum)
the phantom
07-12-2009, 12:56 PM
And it's time to award predictions points! :)
Matches during the final round:
5 points to- Skip, Eonwe, Nerwen, and Gwath
10 points to- Nogrod, Morm, McCaber, and Eomer
Pre-tournament predictions:
Boro- 10 points- Feanor (goals)
Eonwe- 10 points- Melkor (points)
Nogrod- 10 points- Ar Pharazon (goals)
Wilwa- 10 points- Miriel (goals)
Nerwen- 10 points- Feanor (goals)
Hakon- 10 points- Feanor (goals)
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Morm- 20 points- Turin (goals), Melkor (points)
Gwath- 20 points- Feanor (goals), Melkor (points)
Skip- 20 points- Feanor (goals), Feanor (points)
Shasta- 20 points- Feanor (goals), Melkor (points)
So, after all of that, the point standings have changed just a bit. Unless an error of some sort is found in calculations, these are the final standings for the tournament!
TOTAL POINTS STANDINGS
Shadwell Army- 280
Boro's Blunderbusters- 276
Noggerball- 264
Nerwen's Nitpickers- 248
Shasta's Risk Runners- 246
Gwath's Lynch Mob- 243
Hakon's Hottest Haters - 238
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 228
Monkey Stink- 225
TeeGee Ew United- 202
Eonwe's Egregious Aggregate- 186
The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs- 166
Wilwa's Wonderful Winners- 158
Congratulations to Skip on his big-time comeback! Well played! :)
And thanks to everyone for participating. You all had a good round or two, and perhaps next time through better fortune and crafty strategy you will win the day and steal Skip's Phantasy crown away from him. ;)
Boromir88
07-12-2009, 01:07 PM
MOST PHANTASY POINTS
30
**MF Melkor (Valimar)
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
*GK Tar Atanamir (Armenolos)
*FW Sauron (Armenolos)
29
*DF Tar Telperien (Armenolos)
*FW Ar Pharazon (Armenolos)
27
*MF Hurin (Angband)
26
**FW Miriel (Tuna)
*FW Maeglin (Angband)
25
MF Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
24
*GK Carcharoth (Angband)
23
**FW Turin (Dor-Lomin)
22
**FW Scatha (Mirkwood)
21
*FW Eonwe (Valimar)
*FW Finwe (Tuna)
MF Tilion (Valimar)
FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood)
20
*GK Huan (Hithlum)
*FW Beleg (Dor-Lomin)
MF Earendil (Eregion)
19
*DF Tar Cirytan (Armenolos)
*MF Ar Adunakhor (Armenolos)
FW Nerdanel (Tuna)
18
**GK Elrond (Eregion)
**FW Witch-King (Minas Morgul)
*GK Ungoliant (Valimar)
*DF Felaron (Edoras)
*MF phantomwolf (TIG)
*FW Maedhros (Hithlum)
GK Theoden (Edoras)
DF Ar Zimrathan (Armenolos)
17
*DF Curufin (Nargothrond)
*MF Glaurung (Nargothrond)
*MF Finarfin (Tuna)
*FW SPMwolf (TIG)
FW Tar Minastir (Armenolos)
16
*GK Mormwolf (TIG)
*GK Elros (Romenna)
MF Eldacar (Osgiliath)
FW Castamir (Minas Morgul)
FW Eowyn (Edoras)
15
*DF Shadowfax (Edoras)
*FW Nogwolf (TIG)
*FW Eorl (Edoras)
MF Nazgul #7 (Erebor)
MF Thuringwethil (Angband)
FW Araphor (Arnor)
14
*DF Alatar (Valimar)
*DF Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*FW Gothmog (Gondolin)
GK Huor (Dor-Lomin)
GK Ecthelion II (Minas Tirith)
GK Orodreth (Nargothrond)
MF Arien (Valimar)
MF Mardil (Minas Tirith)
FW Boromir I (Minas Tirith)
13
*DF Caranthir (Hithlum)
*DF Pallando (Valimar)
*DF Balrog #2 (Valimar)
*MF Fingolfin (Hithlum)
*MF Thorondor (Taniquetil)
*MF Eol (Doriath)
MF Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
MF Arwen (Lothlorien)
12
**FW Ancalagon (Angband)
*DF Ulmo (Hithlum)
GK Oropher (Mirkwood)
GK The Mouth (Minas Morgul)
GK Aule (Tuna)
11
**FW Smaug (Erebor)
**FW Aragorn II (Minas Tirith)
**DF Gandalf (Eregion)
*DF Celebrimbor (Eregion)
*DF Luthien (Nargothrond)
*FW Glorfindel (Eregion)
*FW Ecthelion (Gondolin)
*FW Boromir II (Gondor)
*FW Azog (Moria)
DF Frealaf (Edoras)
DF Elfwine (Edoras)
MF Gwindor (Angband)
MF Hador (Dor-Lomin)
MF Varda (Taniquetil)
MF Idril (Alqualonde)
FW Eomer (Edoras)
10
*DF Balrog #1 (Hithlum)
*DF Annael (Hithlum)
*FW Gwathwolf (TIG)
*FW Isildur (Arnor)
GK Bain (Erebor)
MF Fingon (Hithlum)
MF Tar Ancalimon (Armenelos)
FW Tulkas (Valimar)
FW Tar Miriel (Romenna)
MOST GOALS SCORED
5
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
**FW Turin (Dor-Lomin)
**FW Miriel (Tuna)
*FW Ar Pharazon (Armenolos)
*FW Maeglin (Angband)
4
**FW Scatha (Mirkwood)
FW Tar Minastir (Armenolos)
3
**MF Melkor (Valimar)
**FW Ancalagon (Angband)
**FW Witch King (Minas Morgul)
*FW Nogwolf (TIG)
*FW Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW Finwe (Tuna)
*FW Glorfindel (Eregion)
*FW Eorl (Edoras)
FW Thranduil (Mirkwood)
FW Castamir (Minas Morgul)
FW Araphor (Arnor)
MOST ASSISTS SCORED
6
*FW Sauron (Armenolos)
5
FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
4
**FW Feanor (Hithlum)
*MF Hurin (Angband)
*FW Beleg (Dor-Lomin)
FW Nerdanel (Tuna)
Nogrod
07-12-2009, 05:05 PM
Congrats Skip for the dashing performance in the end! One can see you're a professional in this... :) Great victory!
Also a beautiful performance Boro! Special thanks for your pre-match analysis and other stuff. Those were entertaining. And your predictions were so accurate at one point I thought you must have hacked tp's PM's... :D
Although I need to add one little thing that just came to my mind... I lost to you with twelve points and that's a fair call. I lost. But had Aredhel assisted the Hithlum goal in the final (shwe basically assited one goal in every game before the final) I would have won you with four points. Here's how it would have played out: 10 pts. for most assists in the tournament prediction before the games started + 2x3 pts. for one assist for the team captain = 16 pts. - 12 pts. (our difference) = +4 pts. :rolleyes:
Great play Nerwen, Shasta, Gwath, Hakon... and everyone!
It was much fun once again.
NB. AKm has also given some special awards in the game thread. Go and check! And there will be more to come.
Feel encouraged to add your own press-releases!
Gwathagor
07-13-2009, 10:07 AM
Great job everyone, it was fun. Congratulations, Skip!
mormegil
07-13-2009, 10:34 AM
Many felicitations Skip! I'm surprised that anybody beat our Boro. It was fun and I wish I had done better.
skip spence
07-13-2009, 11:08 AM
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Well played everyone!
skip spence
07-13-2009, 11:11 AM
Congrats Skip
Although I need to add one little thing that just came to my mind... I lost to you with twelve points and that's a fair call. I lost. But had Aredhel assisted the Hithlum goal in the final (shwe basically assited one goal in every game before the final) I would have won you with four points. Here's how it would have played out: 10 pts. for most assists in the tournament prediction before the games started + 2x3 pts. for one assist for the team captain = 16 pts. - 12 pts. (our difference) = +4 pts. :rolleyes:
Well, Nogrod, had I picked Ar-Pharazon as captain and he'd scored a hat-trick, I'd have beaten you anyway. ;)
Nogrod
07-13-2009, 01:25 PM
Well, Nogrod, had I picked Ar-Pharazon as captain and he'd scored a hat-trick, I'd have beaten you anyway. ;)I didn't even imagine overcoming you Skip as I was just looking at the difference between myself and Boro, but now as you say it... yeah, we would have ended up equal in the lead had Aredhel assisted one goal in the final.
Well, there are different ifs... like if Aredhel assisted one goal like she did in every game but the first where she scored instead, or if Ar Pharazôn made a hat-trick (before the final he had 50% ratio of scoring one or not scoring at all) and if he was chosen as your captain... The first one is something that could be said would have been highly probable and the second one would have been far from it. :rolleyes:
I just couldn't be not mentioning that fact when I realised how "close" the contest was even if the numbers themselves would say it was a clearcut deal...
But I see what you mean and you're quite right indeed. An if is always an if - even if there are different ifs. And that's fine - well what else but fine could it be? :)
As I said congrats once more, and thanks for some really entertaining writing!
And let it be said here publicly as well: good stuff the phantom! That was excellently organised tournament! You made our (Skip's and mine) life easy with our writing by being both supporting and flexible - and always on time or ahead of it.
Two things I have learned to appreciate here in the 'Downs are the personal commitment to do what one has promised to do and to do it on time promised + taking things through to the end and not leaving them unfinished. You never failed tp but looked this through beautifully. *bows*
skip spence
07-13-2009, 02:10 PM
As I said congrats once more, and thanks for some really entertaining writing!
Thanks and likewise!
(I've a feeling I forgot to sign when I repped you the other day btw)
And let it be said here publicly as well: good stuff the phantom! That was excellently organised tournament! You made our (Skip's and mine) life easy with our writing by being both supporting and flexible - and always on time or ahead of it.
Two things I have learned to appreciate here in the 'Downs are the personal commitment to do what one has promised to do and to do it on time promised + taking things through to the end and not leaving them unfinished. You never failed tp but looked this through beautifully. *bows*
Agreed, agreed and agreed. I'm especially impressed with the reliability of all the statistics added up by tp, and how he's always spotted when rules have been broken. Sorry about the times when I wrote about players who in fact did not play for the team I was writing about by the way (and for some awkward word repetitions haha)! My excuse is being in a rush with little free time but that's not really an excuse, as I probably have as much or more of it as you guys do. Did you have an excel worksheet or something similar to help you with the stats tp? Without some software aid that work would be insane, especially in the early rounds.
Anyway, great work the Phantom and Nogrod, as well as Boro for his predictions and stats, and thanks to all of the other participants too!
Hakon
07-13-2009, 05:49 PM
Here is my late Congrats. Congratulations Skip.
the phantom
07-14-2009, 09:32 AM
Thanks everyone for participating, and definitely thanks to Skip and Nogrod for their fine writing and helping to organize the rules and such. You were easy to work with and made good suggestions.
Thanks Boro for getting those final stats together and writing up predictions. Those were great fun to read, and I hope that trend catches on. :)
Nerwen
07-14-2009, 10:17 PM
Congratulations, skip.:)
And to phantom, Nogrod and skip (again)– thanks so much for making it happen!
And Boro, your predictions and stuff were one of the highlights.
Boromir88
07-14-2009, 10:37 PM
Glad you all enjoyed the Boro-Blog :D Next year though I hope more of you decide to get involved in making predictions and judging talent. As I remembered it was quite a bit of fun battling Sauce (and certainly the phantom) over how a mash of super weak hobbits can defeat athletic, strong, and tall Elves in past years.
Nogrod's AKM stuff was great, and there is so much more anyone can contribute. Like power rankings, post and pre game interviews, all kinds of stuff. So, yep, I hope if tp can do it again, more can find time to get involved in the entire process. :)
Awesome writing of the matches Skip and Nogrod, and even though I already knew the outcome of the last two matches, so I can get all the points figured out, those were a joy to read.
Thank you tp for putting this all together, and keeping the Arda Cup going. This year's competition was especially fun, as through it I have grown to be far more appreciative of soccer...erm football...than I ever imagined. Nothing will surpass football...erm American football...but it definitey leapfrogged Basketball, and is right up there with baseball. :p
Nogrod
07-15-2009, 09:08 AM
there is so much more anyone can contribute. Like power rankings, post and pre game interviews, all kinds of stuff. So, yep, I hope if tp can do it again, more can find time to get involved in the entire process. :)Strongly agreed! The more, the merrier!
This year's competition was especially fun, as through it I have grown to be far more appreciative of soccer...erm football...than I ever imagined. Nothing will surpass football...erm American football...but it definitey leapfrogged Basketball, and is right up there with baseball. :p:)
If you guys haven't yet looked at all those goals kindly linked to us by tp in the final-match narration go back there and watch in awe! (Especially from 1:30 onwards)
I have always had an aesthetic attitude to team sports and well, those are just beautiful goals! That's how a Team can play together; witty, imaginative, beautiful... chess on green grass as some say.
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