Werewolf LXXII: Now There's the Truth of It! (Game Thread) [Archive] - Page 3

wilwarin538

02-09-2010, 08:48 PM

1. No, I said I didn't want to suspect you but I did.

2. Okay, but...meta? Seriously?

3. Act innocent. Don't make us suspect you. Acting suspicious and then saying "no, no! I'm innocent!" is not going to cut it.

Pre-edit: xed since my last.

Like no one's ever used Meta before. It's not like I'm saying "Oh him and I talked on the phone and he seemed to sound innocent", that would be unfair...I'm sure people who don't even know each other in RL have tried to trust people they usually suspect in games. I don't really see it as anything unusual. Not really different then you saying Day 1 that Pitch wasn't acting agreeable, so he wasn't a wolf. I see that as Meta as well.

Me acting innocent seems to always be what gets me suspicion.

wilwarin538

02-09-2010, 08:50 PM

X|_|O
O|X|X
_|X|O

Yes, I think we will, unless you let an unpopular girl win? :Merisu:

Loslote

02-09-2010, 08:50 PM

Like no one's ever used Meta before. It's not like I'm saying "Oh him and I talked on the phone and he seemed to sound innocent", that would be unfair...I'm sure people who don't even know each other in RL have tried to trust people they usually suspect in games. I don't really see it as anything unusual. Not really different then you saying Day 1 that Pitch wasn't acting agreeable, so he wasn't a wolf. I see that as Meta as well.

Me acting innocent seems to always be what gets me suspicion.

Okay, on Day 1. But by Day 2 you should have a better feel for someone! :rolleyes:

EDIT: xed with Miss Tic

satansaloser2005

02-09-2010, 08:51 PM

X|_|O
O|X|X
_|X|O

Yes, I think we will, unless you let an unpopular girl win? :Merisu:

Top middle. Not a chance, my love.

alonariel

02-09-2010, 08:52 PM

Izzy - 4
Zil - 7
Form - 4
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 4
Brinn - 1
Lottie - 0
Nog - -2
Rune - 2
Steve - 1
Wilwa - 1

Isabellkya

02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

It seems awfully quiet for the last handful of minutes.

Inziladun

02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

Getting back later than I'd planned and having to very quickly skim through.

So... I have a theory.

As to why nobody died last night.

Cursed villager.

I think we might have another bad guy.

:(

Well, doesn't look as if a confirmation or denial of that from our Moddess is forthcoming. I see no way of knowing the truth of the matter just now.

Failing a sudden gifted reveal or something, I don't think I'll be voting for Lottie, Nog or Wilwa. The odds that no member of that trio is a wolf don't look good to me.

I honestly am nervous suspecting Lottie because my read of her has been terrible in the past. I do think she looks worse than the other two there.

I found something from Glirdan that might reflect positively on Steve and Nerwen.

Now on to Nog's list of last minute votes for Izzy at the end of the Day.

It is highly unlikely that there is no Wolf in that group, and out of all four, Eonwe and Nerwen stand out the most for their lack of reasoning. Nerwen's vote was the last of the Day and the deciding vote on who was to be lynched. Yet Eonwe voted with a mere explanation of "he's more suspicious." Care to explain why you thought so?

Certainly wolf-on-wolf is not out of the question there, but it seems unwarranted and reckless to me, if that's what it was.

++Nerwen- for that and my reasons from before.

++Brinn- Her words before DL yesterDay, which is mostly why I wanted to save her, make me believe she's probably innocent.

Loslote

02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

*sigh* Might as well...

++Brinn
++Form

EDIT: xed with Izzy and Zil

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

++Lottie
++Brinn
++Steve
++Wilwa

This is called devine intervention. . .explanation will follow tomorrow. . .hopefully

wilwarin538

02-09-2010, 08:55 PM

X|O|O
O|X|X
X|X|O

I have more groups of 2 beside each other then you do, so I think I win. :p

Okay, on Day 1. But by Day 2 you should have a better feel for someone!:rolleyes:

Well, I'll just have to keep that in mind for the future then. *makes note in notebook: no meta after Day 1*. :rolleyes:

Nerwen

02-09-2010, 08:55 PM

Okay, then.

++Rune

And one last... let me see...

EDIT:x'd with everyone again.

alonariel

02-09-2010, 08:56 PM

Izzy - 4
Zil - 7
Form - 5
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 5
Brinn - 4
Lottie - 1
Nog - -2
Rune - 3
Steve - 2
Wilwa - 2

satansaloser2005

02-09-2010, 08:56 PM

X|O|O
O|X|X
X|X|O

I have more groups of 2 beside each other then you do, so I think I win. :p

Well, I'll just have to keep that in mind for the future then. *makes note in notebook: no meta after Day 1*. :rolleyes:

I can smite you with an epic smite. Just sayin'. Who wins again? :Merisu:

Nerwen

02-09-2010, 08:57 PM

This is called devine intervention. . .explanation will follow tomorrow. . .hopefully
:confused:

wilwarin538

02-09-2010, 08:57 PM

I can smite you with an epic smite. Just sayin'. Who wins again? :Merisu:

Both of us, cause we are so wonderful *snuggles* :Merisu:

Loslote

02-09-2010, 08:57 PM

Well, I'll just have to keep that in mind for the future then. *makes note in notebook: no meta after Day 1*. :rolleyes:

Hey, that's a good rule of thumb. Hakon, for example, has been lynched more times than I can count for using meta after Day 1...not that that has ever stopped him, so possibly not the best example.

EDIT: xed with many and have to run.

satansaloser2005

02-09-2010, 08:58 PM

++Lottie
++Brinn
++Steve
++Wilwa

This is called devine intervention. . .explanation will follow tomorrow. . .hopefully

Grape or tomato?

Isabellkya

02-09-2010, 08:59 PM

Do I have to use my last two votes?
Ihoneslty don't know whom to vote for?

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-09-2010, 08:59 PM

++Nerwen
++Zil

Nerwen

02-09-2010, 08:59 PM

++Form

Why not?

Nogrod

02-09-2010, 09:00 PM

I was just coming to close the computer (with five hours to sleep :confused:)
Just out of curiosity: were you a wolf Nerwen, how would you have played differently?
Why, looking for tips? ;)No. That was actually a serious question. Were you a wolf you would have been just as smooth and opportunistic, or am I wrong? So should I ask how had you played if you were innocent perhaps? Maybe that would have made you feel I was asking you a real question?

Inziladun

02-09-2010, 09:00 PM

++Steve

++Fea

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-09-2010, 09:00 PM

:confused:

I have done what I have felt was wright, with the limited information I had. . .
(It might have screwed things up, but I rather do that than do nothing at all)

satansaloser2005

02-09-2010, 09:00 PM

Hey, that's a good rule of thumb. Hakon, for example, has been lynched more times than I can count for using meta after Day 1...not that that has ever stopped him, so possibly not the best example.

EDIT: xed with many and have to run.

Lol definitely not the best example. ;)

Do I have to use my last two votes?
Ihoneslty don't know whom to vote for?

Meh, Day's over anyway. Use them all toMorrow though, k? K.

Aaaaand the moddess comes in at the last second and gives Nog two points! Gasp!

alonariel

02-09-2010, 09:01 PM

Izzy - 4
Zil - 8
Form - 6
Fea - 5
Nerwen - 6
Brinn - 4
Lottie - 1
Nog - 0
Rune - 3
Steve - 3
Wilwa - 2

satansaloser2005

02-09-2010, 09:01 PM

Izzy - 4
Zil - 8
Form - 5
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 6
Brinn - 4
Lottie - 1
Nog - -2
Rune - 3
Steve - 2
Wilwa - 2

Nog is at zero now. Just....yeah. Lol.

satansaloser2005

02-09-2010, 09:07 PM

"Not here to brag
Not here for thrills
I'm here to battle, baby
I dance to kill"

Which is to say that Nog was a wolf. Chiller, in fact.

An extra point toward toMorrow's tally to the first person who can PM me with the correct reason for the wolvs' names. Well, actually, given timezones and everything that's not fair. I'll put all the correct answers over the Night in my shiny bowl and will draw out two people for a point each. Shiny? Shiny.

ETA: Oh, and of course Dun's Simon for toMorrow. Send me your pick whenever you feel like, dear. :)

satansaloser2005

02-10-2010, 09:49 PM

Sorry, sorry! Youth group ran late and then the net died on me....again.

ToNight, Candy and Killer conspired amongst themselves and in the end poor Brinn was slain. An ordo sweet was she.

(Narration to follow, I swear. I'm so sorry I fail, but this illness is getting the better of me both in RL and online. Trying to catch up, I promise.)

ETA: For the record....

The Dead
Gwath (ordo)
Nienna (hunter)
Mira (Thriller)
Pitch (ordo)
Glirdan (Diller)
Nog (Chiller)
Brinn (ordo)

The Living
Nerwen
Lottie
Fea
Rune
Steve
Dun
Wilwa
Izzy
Form

satansaloser2005

02-10-2010, 10:06 PM

Btw you can totally post now. I'm probably going to bed, so if you need me and want to risk my wrath you can find my number on my facebook. Later all!

Nerwen

02-10-2010, 10:08 PM

We don't have another wolf, do we?:(

satansaloser2005

02-10-2010, 10:14 PM

Btw, added a list of the living and dead, so you don't have to search for one. Night! :)

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-10-2010, 10:15 PM

Looks like it, Nerwen.

One at a time, I guess.

I feel so naked toDay without my Simon power...

Formendacil

02-10-2010, 10:16 PM

We don't have another wolf, do we?:(

Ugh... "Candy and Killer." It sure looks like it...

Yeah...

I've got nothing.

Why eat Brinn?

Inziladun

02-10-2010, 10:16 PM

Nerwen

02-10-2010, 10:20 PM

Well, regardless of exactly what's going on, I suggest that no-one vote Lottie toDay.

Now that we know Nog was a wolf, it looks very black for her, and that's on top of her links to the other two.

I wonder why Brinn was killed? A suspected gifted? I thought she might be one myself, so I shouldn't be surprised if the wolf/wolves did.

EDIT:X'd since Sally.

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-10-2010, 10:22 PM

I wonder why Brinn was killed? A suspected gifted? I thought she might be one myself, so I shouldn't be surprised if the wolf/wolves did.

It would make sense. Since Hunter-Ni had a PM-buddy Lover, and Brinn said she had a PM-buddy that should feel ashamed for not jumping to save her... it might make sense that Brinn could have been the Ranger. Clearly she wasn't, but the logic's not horribly flawed...

Inziladun

02-10-2010, 10:33 PM

Well, I don't think we'll go wrong going after Lottie. If we strike gold there, then we can move on to the next one.
The trouble spotting a Cursed is you don't know when they might have been turned, so they might have been acting perfectly innocent one Day, with subtle changes the next. It seems it's a bit more problematic than finding wolves there from the start.
However, it's 7-2 against the wolves at the moment, so I quite like our chances as long as we keep our heads.

Nerwen

02-10-2010, 10:36 PM

The trouble spotting a Cursed is you don't know when they might have been turned.

Yes we do– Night before last, when there was no kill. Surely that's when it must have happened?

satansaloser2005

02-10-2010, 10:37 PM

Yes we do– Night before last, when there was no kill. Surely that's when it must have happened?

*whistles nonchalantly*

Inziladun

02-10-2010, 10:39 PM

Yes we do– Night before last, when there was no kill. Surely that's when it must have happened?

*slaps forehead*

That is likely, I agree. That's something, anyway.

Nerwen

02-10-2010, 10:43 PM

*whistles nonchalantly*

Oh dear.:(

Are you hinting there's some way the wolves could turn the Cursed and make a kill on the same Night?

That seems very unfair to me.

I suppose I'd better check the rules...

EDIT:X'd with Zil.

satansaloser2005

02-10-2010, 10:50 PM

Oh dear.:(

Are you hinting there's some way the wolves could turn the Cursed and make a kill on the same Night?

That seems very unfair to me.

I suppose I'd better check the rules...

EDIT:X'd with Zil.

Don't bother, dear. I didn't mention it. But no, that's not possible. I was just whistling because your theorizing amused me.

Loslote

02-11-2010, 12:24 AM

Well, regardless of exactly what's going on, I suggest that no-one vote Lottie toDay.

Now that we know Nog was a wolf, it looks very black for her, and that's on top of her links to the other two.

Links to the other two? I fail to see how I could possibly be linked to Mira. To be honest, I'd basically forgotten she was playing. :rolleyes:

Loslote

02-11-2010, 12:38 AM

Sally has a werewolf pack,
Werewolf pack, werewolf pack.
Sally has a werewolf pack,
their kills give us the chills.

And ev'ry where that Sally goes,
Sally goes, Sally goes.
Ev'rywhere that Sally goes
The wolves would cause a thrill.

They followed her to school one day,
School one day, school one day.
They followed her to school one day,
her school friend they did kill.

Then they ate up all the food,
all the food, all the food.
Then they ate up all the food,
and left nary one candy.

So Sally became very mad,
Very mad, very mad.
So Sally became very mad,
and modfired all the wolves.

^ My song deserves wolf-modfire, yes? :Merisu:

~~~

Candy is hard to work into a song. :rolleyes:

Loslote

02-11-2010, 12:54 AM

Well, regardless of exactly what's going on, I suggest that no-one vote Lottie toDay.

Now that we know Nog was a wolf, it looks very black for her, and that's on top of her links to the other two.

Oh, and: I admit it, I was wrong. Glirdy would be that obvious. I didn't think he would because I never would have. Wolf!Lottie would never do something so obvious, particularly not first-time-wolf!Lottie. Coming back from a long break in werewolfing, I expected (wrongly, as it turns out) that Glirdy would be somewhat similar. In my mind, clear ties to known wolves means very little, because I never believe that a wolf would do that, even though it has been proven that they do. I put more value in subtle ties to known wolves, which is why I suspected Wilwa over Nog. I still suspect Wilwa, too, for that reason (and others) and am not happy with the way she's slipping under the radar again. Steve and Rune, too - no one really looks at them. And yes, I am aware that there's one too many wolves in that little list of wolf-dom. I just suspect all of them. It doesn't help that Rune trusts me...I never trust people who trust me. I trust people who suspect me. Zil and Izzy look really good. Nerwen I'm pretty sure is innocent... which is one reason why the fact that they're trying to lynch me is a bit annoying. :rolleyes:

Loslote

02-11-2010, 01:11 AM

My guess would be Fea was right about the Cursed role.
At any rate, I'm quite confident Lottie is a wolf. Proven links to two known wolves, and general suspicious activity make me think she ought to be our lynch focus toDay.

Yeah, Fea's right. Candy doesn't exactly fit with the other wolf names, does it? :rolleyes:

Could you specify "general suspicious activity"? You have used this before, and I have always been innocent before.

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 03:24 AM

Links to the other two? I fail to see how I could possibly be linked to Mira. To be honest, I'd basically forgotten she was playing. :rolleyes:

True, I probably overstated the case saying you had "links" to Mirawolf. But then she was only around for a Day. She did vote for you (and Glirdan).

Oh, and: I admit it, I was wrong. Glirdy would be that obvious. I didn't think he would because I never would have. Wolf!Lottie would never do something so obvious, particularly not first-time-wolf!Lottie.

"If I were a wolf I'd behave in such-and-such a way, so clearly I can't possibly be a wolf!"

Sorry, Lottie, but that one's older then Methuselah. You'll just have to try a bit harder to convince us.

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 04:42 AM

I still suspect Wilwa, too, for that reason (and others) and am not happy with the way she's slipping under the radar again. Steve and Rune, too - no one really looks at them. And yes, I am aware that there's one too many wolves in that little list of wolf-dom. I just suspect all of them. It doesn't help that Rune trusts me...I never trust people who trust me. I trust people who suspect me. Zil and Izzy look really good. Nerwen I'm pretty sure is innocent... which is one reason why the fact that they're trying to lynch me is a bit annoying. :rolleyes:
First of all, I don't trust you. I might not have wanted you dead, but it has never been a case of me trusting you. Anyways I find it interesting that you trust people that suspect you and never people who "trusts" you. I could never set up such rules, it is all about how people according to how I remember them being in previous games and also about what kind of relations I have to them. (the last one is not rational at all, but there are just some people I always seem to suspect)

Anyways, I am back home now, so I will be arround to night to do some proper posting.

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 06:56 AM

Brinn? A little bit of an odd choice. Perhaps it had to do with her saying she had a PenPal back on Day 2? The thing about her looking like a Ranger is possible too I suppose.

And the cursed thing seems to be correct. So really the best way to search for someone would be to see who started acting a bit different yesterDay, compared to the first 2 Days.

Oh, and: I admit it, I was wrong. Glirdy would be that obvious. I didn't think he would because I never would have. Wolf!Lottie would never do something so obvious, particularly not first-time-wolf!Lottie. Coming back from a long break in werewolfing, I expected (wrongly, as it turns out) that Glirdy would be somewhat similar. In my mind, clear ties to known wolves means very little, because I never believe that a wolf would do that, even though it has been proven that they do. I put more value in subtle ties to known wolves, which is why I suspected Wilwa over Nog. I still suspect Wilwa, too, for that reason (and others) and am not happy with the way she's slipping under the radar again.

Think about this though for a second Lottie. So you thought it was unlikely that Glirdan would be so obvious about Nog, I get that, I thought the same thing, we were wrong. But do you actually think that he would be crazy obvious by trusting 2 of his wolf mates? I mean going all crazy for Nog would make a bit of sense, cause people would think it too obvious, and since Nog was distancing from it, it looks even better. But him and I trusting each other, on top of the Nog thing, and me trusting Nog for a bit as well? That's 3 wolves with far too many connections to each other. Really think the 3 of us would all be that obvious?

Anyway, I looked at all the votes by and for the wolves:

Mira: voted for: Glirdan, Fea, Form, Lottie
was voted for by: Form, Izzy, Fea

Glirdan: voted for: Nog (D1,D2), Wilwa, Fea, Lottie
was voted for by: Brinn, Mira, Lottie, Wilwa (D1, D2)

Nog: voted for: Gwath, Inzil (D1,D2,D3), Nerwen, Nienna, Rune (D2,D3), Lottie, Form (D2,D3), Izzy
was voted for by: Inzil (D1,D2), Wilwa, Gwath, Eonwe (D1,D2), Nienna, Lottie, no one Day 3

So the only one on all 3? Lottie. Yes, I look kinda bad too because I'm connected to 2 of them. So is Fea, Form and Izzy. But Lottie has the most connections.

So I think she's probably Killer, no idea who Candy is though. Hopefully a girl, I'd feel bad for any guy stuck with that name. ;)

Got a giant midterm today, so I gotta go get ready for school and make sure not to miss the bus. I'll be around randomly throughout the day, should be on lots for the last 4ish hours before DL.

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 07:31 AM

Could you specify "general suspicious activity"? You have used this before, and I have always been innocent before.

Apart from your votes to and from wolves, I raised many of my concerns here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=623434&postcount=445).

Then there's a remark that would seem to mean little in itself, but when taken in whole with everything else, it looks bad.

When it was announced that Nog was losing points due to Simon here:

Nog is down two points per Simon.

This was your reaction:

Wait - down two points? I forgot that was allowed...so he's got negative votes?

Looks like that honestly caught you off guard, and you were dismayed to find your packmate at a disadvantage, with little hope for you to save him.

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-11-2010, 08:41 AM

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 08:53 AM

Well, since Fea doomed Nog yesterDay by docking him two points as Simon, I see no reason to doubt she is legitimate.
Any other arguments, Lottie? :rolleyes:

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 08:58 AM

I am the seer. Lottie is a Wolf.

I dreamed of Wilwa (innocent), Izzy (innocent), Nog (wolf), Lottie (wolf) and I require the Ranger to protect me toNight so that I can see if I can go three for three on bad guy dreams.

Sound like a plan?

And honestly it doesn't matter if the Ranger comes forward now because if the Cursed-Wolf does try to kill you toNight (sorry to sound callous) you'd be taking one for the team and it would still leave me alive long enough to get in another dream. But coming forward would give us another known innocent.

Addendum: Wilwa and Izzy could technically be the cursed villager, because they were dreamed before the cursed turned. However their actions have not reflected a change of role, hence me continuing to think of them as innocent.

Ok, well I trusted you from the beginning anywho so I'm not fighting this. But the Ranger doesn't have to reveal, they can still protect you whether we know who they are or not, and if they can stay alive for a while more they can still help us out and it's not like we absolutely need another known innocent at the moment. Even though there are still 2 wolves yet, we're still farther ahead then we could have been if we hadn't been so lucky. So I think they should stay quiet.

x'ed with Inzil

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 09:02 AM

Ok, well I trusted you from the beginning anywho so I'm not fighting this. But the Ranger doesn't have to reveal, they can still protect you whether we know who they are or not, and if they can stay alive for a while more they can still help us out and it's not like we absolutely need another known innocent at the moment. Even though there are still 2 wolves yet, we're still farther ahead then we could have been if we hadn't been so lucky. So I think they should stay quiet.

I concur. No need to give Candy another obvious target just yet. We know who we're going to lynch toDay.
Speaking of that, I'll go ahead and get this done.

++Fea

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 09:11 AM

Here are the votes from the Day before the Night where the Cursed was chosen:

Brinn - 4
Fea - 6
Form - 3
Glirdan - 2
Izzy - 4
Lottie - 4
Nerwen - 5
Nog - 4
Pitch - 2
Rune - 4
Steve - 3
Wilwa – 6
Zil - 5

Here is a list of everyone left:

Nerwen
Lottie - Wolf
Fea - Seer
Rune
Eonwe
Inzil
Wilwa - Innocent
Izzy - Innocent
Form - Presumed Innocent because of Lovers (people may disagree with this assumption, but it's what I think)

Now I know I still want to think Inzil innocent because of what Form said about Nienna's Hunt choices, but that happened before the Cursed so he may not be innocent anymore.

That leaves us with Nerwen, Rune, Steve and Inzil. Looking at the votes from the Day before that Night, and *assuming* the wolves may have chosen someone who had a fair number of votes, therefore a lot of trust and less likely to be lynched. Then Nerwen or Inzil could be it. It's tough though, cause Wolves use different reasoning for everything. So I don't know if those votes will actually help....

Anyway, I'll likely vote for Fea, Izzy and Form. Fea can technically be Simon again. Not sure who my fourth will be.

x'ed with Inzil

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 09:30 AM

Aha. I guessed it was you, Fea. *pats self on back*:cool:

Ok, well I trusted you from the beginning anywho so I'm not fighting this. But the Ranger doesn't have to reveal, they can still protect you whether we know who they are or not, and if they can stay alive for a while more they can still help us out and it's not like we absolutely need another known innocent at the moment.

It would increase her chances of dreaming a wolf toNight, though... I don't know. It's really up to the Ranger to decide.

We really should start trying to work out who this last wolf might be now, instead of just leaving it to Fea, who may after all only get one more shot.

So, apart from Fea herself, and Wolflote, we've got four semi-known innocents:

Wilwa,
Izzy,
Zil,
Form

and three complete unknowns:

Eönwë
Rune
Me (I am of course utterly innocent, but I'm just putting myself in there to show I don't play favourites;) ).

The first question, then, is: how likely is it that Candy is in the first group rather than the second?

EDIT:X'd with Wilwa.

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 09:39 AM

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 09:46 AM

So, apart from Fea herself, and Wolflote, we've got four semi-known innocents:

Wilwa,
Izzy,
Zil,
Form

and three complete unknowns:

Eönwë
Rune
Me (I am of course utterly innocent, but I'm just putting myself in there to show I don't play favourites;) ).

The first question, then, is: how likely is it that Candy is in the first group rather than the second?

Well I don't think it's Form, a Lover being a Cursed as well just seems unlikely. I suppose it could be Inzil or Izzy. Nog did vote for Izzy yesterDay. But I just don't know, I don't think it's her. Inzil, I'm not sure...

I personally think it's in that second group of Nerwen's. Now which of them would have been a more likely kill choice after Day 2? I don't know. And then there still might be this One Hint Wonder person chilling around somewhere.

I know for sure these two aren't gonna change for me so I'll vote now:

++ Fea

and

++ Form (happy birthday!)

I'll leave the other 2 til closer to DL, just incase something interesting happens.

x'ed with Rune, and Rune: Fea dreamt me Night 1, so I could technically be Candy. Same with Inzil and Izzy.

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 09:46 AM

That leaves us with Nerwen, Rune, Steve and Inzil. Looking at the votes from the Day before that Night, and *assuming* the wolves may have chosen someone who had a fair number of votes, therefore a lot of trust and less likely to be lynched. Then Nerwen or Inzil could be it. It's tough though, cause Wolves use different reasoning for everything. So I don't know if those votes will actually help....

Too big an assumption, I think. I mean, it's logical, and I wouldn't write off Zil as a non-wolf yet– but as you say yourself, being hard to lynch is only one reason people get Night-killed. In the case of Nienna and Brinn, at any rate, it looks to me like the wolves were after possible gifteds (actual, in Ni's case).

EDIT:X'd with Rune and Wilwa.

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 09:50 AM

Why is Wilwa only semi-known?

For the same reason as the others: one of them might have been turned since.

Er... why do you only ask about Wilwa?

EDIT:clarity.

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 09:58 AM

For the same reason as the others: they all might have been turned since.

Er... why do you only ask about Wilwa?

Because I always get confused about the nicknames for Inziladun and Isabellkya.

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 10:00 AM

Too big an assumption, I think. I mean, it's logical, and I wouldn't write off Zil as a non-wolf yet– but as you say yourself, being hard to lynch is only one reason people get Night-killed. In the case of Nienna and Brinn, at any rate, it looks to me like the wolves were after possible gifteds (actual, in Ni's case).

I know. That's likely true. Votes are just easier for me to analyse for possibilities. I have no clue what the wolves might be seeing in peoples posts, especially with the votes working the way they are (with us all getting so many) quite a few people could have looked seer-ish to the wolves. I'm sure if we looked through everyone's posts close enough we could find something on everyone that makes them look like a gifted, it's all about what the wolves saw and what's going through their head. I never thought for a second that Brinn could be a gifted, so they obviously saw something I didn't see. Just like the first few Days I thought Nog might be gifted. See what I mean?

Gah. Why can't wolves just always kill people based on who's hardest to lynch? Would make my life so much easier :p.

x'ed with Nerwen and Rune, and maybe more back on page 14.

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 10:07 AM

If you all don't think I'm necessarily on the level, perhaps you should ask yourselves why I was suspecting Lottie heavily yesterDay, and toDay also, before Fea's reveal.

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 10:42 AM

I know. That's likely true. Votes are just easier for me to analyse for possibilities. I have no clue what the wolves might be seeing in peoples posts, especially with the votes working the way they are (with us all getting so many) quite a few people could have looked seer-ish to the wolves. I'm sure if we looked through everyone's posts close enough we could find something on everyone that makes them look like a gifted, it's all about what the wolves saw and what's going through their head. I never thought for a second that Brinn could be a gifted, so they obviously saw something I didn't see. Just like the first few Days I thought Nog might be gifted. See what I mean?

Oh, I'm not suggesting we just look for people the wolves might have thought were the seer either. I was just making the point that, unfortunately, I don't think it's going to be as simple as what you were suggesting. It's hard enough to work out why wolves killed someone when you know who that someone was.

If you all don't think I'm necessarily on the level, perhaps you should ask yourselves why I was suspecting Lottie heavily yesterDay, and toDay also, before Fea's reveal.

Well, I could have made the same point about myself– but I suppose, in theory at least, one of us could have been making a ruthless wolf-on-wolf attack. Something either of us could pull off, I believe. Really, you should take it as a compliment. ;)

However, I'd say a better starting point would be to look for someone whose behaviour, especially regarding the known wolves, changed in some way after the no-kill Night. And look at the wolves, too– did they suddenly support anyone? Did they "suspect" anyone in a way that seemed forced?

Of course, Lottie and Nog possibly had too much on there plates to pay much attention to their fellow that Day anyway, but still, I think it's worth checking out.

EDIT:added comment.
EDIT2:Grammar and stuff. I WAS tired when I wrote this!

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 10:43 AM

I have to go now, though. I'll be back later.

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 11:05 AM

Well, I could have made the same point about myself– but I suppose, in theory at least, one of us could have been pulling off a ruthless wolf-on-wolf attack. Something either of us could pull of, I believe. Really, you should take it as a compliment. ;)

You're probably right in that it could be done, but why, especially after Nog's demise? Today you said:

Well, regardless of exactly what's going on, I suggest that no-one vote Lottie toDay.

Would a Nerwolf have said that before Fea's reveal, knowing the evil forces were down to just her and Lottie?

However, I'd say a better starting point would be to look for someone whose behaviour, especially regarding the known wolves, changed in some way after the no-kill Night. And look at the wolves, too– did they suddenly support anyone? Did they "suspect" anyone in a way that seemed forced?

That's really the best chance at spotting the Cursed, barring another one in the bullseye for Fea toNight.

Isabellkya

02-11-2010, 11:32 AM

That is half good that we know for certain there is a new wolf.
I wasn't planning on voting for Loslote anyhow.

I don't see any reason to not trust Fea. Though I still don't trust Wilwa.

++Fea

I have to vote ridiculously early toDay, and probably won't be around a whole lot - due to a busybusy schedule.

The turned wolf, who would Nog/Loslote/Glirdan pick as the person to turn. Or, well. The turning was the Night after Glirdan was lynched. So who would Nog/Loslote of picked to turn? Someone whom was looking innocent, and not suspected.Form? Inziladun? Or a quiet, unknown. Off the top of my head, I do recall Nog going after nerwen yesterDay. I don't believe he had much in the way to say about Rune, other than he voted for him I believe. An attempt to save a new turned wolf? Or going against Nerwen as the newly turned?

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 12:34 PM

Announcement

Per yesterday, the following people have one point added to their score for the Day.

Nerwen
Steve

They, along with Fea and Izzy, correctly guessed the reason (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA) for the names of the wolves.

Oh, and Form gets a point because it's his birthday and we love him. ^_^

Which puts the Moddess-Driven Tally Bonus to:
Nerwen +1
Steve +1
Form +1

No word from Simon yet but I'll put it up when Dun tells me. :)

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 12:50 PM

Moddess-Driven Tally Bonus

I read this as Moddess-Driven Sally Bonus. :rolleyes: :D

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 12:54 PM

I read this as Moddess-Driven Sally Bonus. :rolleyes: :D

Tehe. Same difference. :p

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 01:11 PM

Another wolf? And we were just getting so close...

And maybe that's why Nogwolf tried to downplay the idea of 5 wolves yesterDay...

Well enough for me for the time being, as the chance these both claims could be untrue is that we have now three wolves instead of two (it would mean we have had five wolves in a village of just 16 and I'd say that would be really unfair from Sally!) - or a very acute cobbler (which is possible even if not that believable).

Ok, so I've never played a game with Cursed Villager before. Do they if they are one?

Formendacil

02-11-2010, 01:39 PM

Ok, so I've never played a game with Cursed Villager before. Do they --Know-- if they are one?

I assume you meant to have a "know" in there.

In any game I have ever played, they did not know... but Sally has been known to make up her own rules before... but I'm pretty sure the poem said they "knew not" what they were.

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 01:48 PM

In any game I have ever played, they did not know... but Sally has been known to make up her own rules before... but I'm pretty sure the poem said they "knew not" what they were.

Ah, but who says the poem referenced the cursed?

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 01:52 PM

Ah, but who says the poem referenced the cursed?

Yeah, because the poem says:

Now do not forget this special role
For it is not known to the one who it holds
The One-Hit Wonder, them you should not fear
Their power is great, and their logic is clear
So from this I assume that the One-Hit Wonder is on our side- we have a lot of reason to fear a cursed villager.

edit: and yes, I did mean that Form.

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 02:14 PM

Nerwen
Lottie - Wolf
Fea - Seer
Rune
Eonwe
Inzil
Wilwa - Innocent
Izzy - Innocent
Form - Presumed Innocent because of Lovers (people may disagree with this assumption, but it's what I think)

Now I know I still want to think Inzil innocent because of what Form said about Nienna's Hunt choices, but that happened before the Cursed so he may not be innocent anymore.
But it's same with you and Izzy. If you believe Form, why you should you two get the innocent label but not Inzil?

I don't like this at all...

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 02:15 PM

I like snuggles
I really like snuggles
I like snuggles
I really really do

I like snuggles
I really like snuggles
I like snuggles
I really really do

Now back to retroactively killing people. ^_^

EDIT: x'd with Steve's last

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 02:18 PM

Oh, and I want to be on page 16 in the next hour. There may be a cookie if you succeed or a modwrath if you don't. *beams, skips away*

alonariel

02-11-2010, 02:36 PM

I'm leaving for Chem lab soon, but should be back around two hours before DL tonight (don't have work keeping me away today).

Fea - 3
Form - 2
Nerwen - 1
Steve - 1
Lottie - 0
Rune - 0
Zil - 0
Wilwa - 0
Izzy - 0

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 02:44 PM

the reason (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA) for the names of the wolves.
Ah, but though they've been bad, the wolves haven't been very smooth criminals this game have they?

Formendacil

02-11-2010, 02:45 PM

Okay, so it's worth mentioning that with a birthday today, I'm sort of only half here, mentally, and will be gone for most of the hours leading up to the deadline. I'm here now... and will in and out regularly for the next couple hours... but I'm a bit scatterbrained. Probably going to respond better to stimulus than I'll be putting it out myself.

I'm also thoroughly confused by Sally's special roles, secrecy, and poems... for someone who wants to study and teach English Literature, I'm not a super poesy-person. I'm also discounting Sally as evidence, for the most part, about her own roles. She's cheeky enough to say anything.

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 02:46 PM

Ah, but though they've been bad, the wolves haven't been very smooth criminals this game have they?

The temptation to give you an extra point is almost too much....

Almost. :Merisu:

Shastanis Althreduin

02-11-2010, 02:48 PM

*snickers*

Saaaaaalllllly. Is it time yet? :Merisu:

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 02:53 PM

*snickers*

Saaaaaalllllly. Is it time yet? :Merisu:

Yes, my precious. Oh, so very yes. :smokin:

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 03:21 PM

they, along with Fea and Izzy, correctly guessed the reason (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA) for the names of the wolves.

The reason is blocked in "my country"
I read this as Moddess-Driven Sally Bonus. :rolleyes: :D
Who is this "Sally" you all talk about? :smokin:

Anyways I just wanted to let you know that I am here now and should remain so until the deadline, or thereabout.

Loslote

02-11-2010, 03:27 PM

I am the seer. Lottie is a Wolf.

Stupid pen-pal. Told you, pack-mate, told you... :rolleyes:

I like snuggles
I really like snuggles
I like snuggles
I really really do

I like snuggles
I really like snuggles
I like snuggles
I really really do

Now back to retroactively killing people. ^_^

*snuggles Miss Mod*

*snickers*

Saaaaaalllllly. Is it time yet? :Merisu:

Yes, my precious. Oh, so very yes. :smokin:

Should I be worried? ... well, yes, I should, but should I be even more worried?

Loslote

02-11-2010, 03:29 PM

Yeah, Fea's right.

I even hinted 'cause I didn't think I'd survive! Don't I rock? :rolleyes: :Merisu:

Shastanis Althreduin

02-11-2010, 03:31 PM

DUN DUN DUN.

It is now time for my event. :)

The first person to answer the following question correctly will receive a power that must be activated today (they'll be PMed).

Name the first singular "true neutral" role in the history of Werewolf on the Barrow-Downs.

Hint: "Lovers" is incorrect. By "true neutral" I mean a role that can win with either side.

Formendacil

02-11-2010, 03:32 PM

Loslote

02-11-2010, 03:40 PM

Whatcha gonna do when your packmate's dreamed of?
Who you gonna kill when the Seer reveals?
Yeah, how you gonna cope when there is no pming?
Where you gonna turn to try to blend in?
How you gonna make it through when you think you've lost your chance?

Play on when you're losing the game
Play on 'cause we're bound to make mistakes
It's always worth the sacrifice
Even when you know you're alone
So play on, play on

Even when the voting dries right up
Never let the pressure freeze you up
Even when you're not sure you'll survive
Swimming through a mess and you can't get out
Just going through the motions and trying not to slip

Play on when you're losing the game
Play on 'cause we're bound to make mistakes
It's always worth the sacrifice
Even when you know I'm gone
So play on, play on

Even through a storm on the darkest Night
Don't you ever give up the fight
Even if you know you're all alone
Play on, play on

Play on when you're losing the game
Play on 'cause we're bound to make mistakes
It's always worth the sacrifice
Even when you know you're alone
So play on, play on

Play on
Ooh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Na, na, na, na, na, na,
Na, na, na, na, na, na

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 03:40 PM

Loslote

02-11-2010, 03:41 PM

Okay... so Lottie's a wolf. Obviously, we need to kill her. Otherwise, we may as well ignore her and look for the last wolf--unless she's planning to tell us who it is... but obviously we'll want to take that with a grain of salt.

It's you! It's always you, no matter who's reading this, so vote me, because you're my packmate!

And if that does not make you frown or think at all...epic Lottie fail. :p

Loslote

02-11-2010, 03:51 PM

Okay... so Lottie's a wolf. Obviously, we need to kill her. Otherwise, we may as well ignore her and look for the last wolf--unless she's planning to tell us who it is... but obviously we'll want to take that with a grain of salt.

No no no! Don't ignore me! I am exciting! Honestly, would I lie? :Merisu:

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 03:52 PM

Little Lottie let her mind wander....

But it was too small to be out on its own and it got ran over by a meat truck.

Poor little Lottie. :(

Formendacil

02-11-2010, 03:55 PM

I would argue the Mythomaniac.

Some might say the Cobbler.

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 03:56 PM

Name the first singular "true neutral" role in the history of Werewolf on the Barrow-Downs.

Mithalwen the Grey Queen?

Loslote

02-11-2010, 03:57 PM

Loslote

02-11-2010, 03:57 PM

Little Lottie let her mind wander....

But it was too small to be out on its own and it got ran over by a meat truck.

Poor little Lottie. :(

Ooh exciting! :D

Shastanis Althreduin

02-11-2010, 03:58 PM

I would argue the Mythomaniac.

Some might say the Cobbler.

Cobbler is incorrect, and as for Mythomaniac... it's not a role I've heard of! If you can show me it and it turns out to be correct, you'll win, Form. :)

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 03:59 PM

Or is it Gray Queen to you Americans?

Shastanis Althreduin

02-11-2010, 03:59 PM

Mithalwen the Grey Queen?

Har-dee-har-har. Nope.

Formendacil

02-11-2010, 04:02 PM

Cobbler is incorrect, and as for Mythomaniac... it's not a role I've heard of! If you can show me it and it turns out to be correct, you'll win, Form. :)

Heh... we're talking about games before I played. Like... WW IV or V or VIish... I think it was Mithalwen's game.

Lemme go check the grimoire.

Formendacil

02-11-2010, 04:05 PM

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 04:11 PM

Here we are: WW V, Mith's game: http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=12004&page=1

However, if we want to say the Curséd Villager, there was one of those in WW II.

Technically, a Cursed Villager can win with either team--depending whether they get bit or not.

But technically that is not being neutral. . .they always have an allegiance.

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 04:12 PM

Name the first singular "true neutral" role in the history of Werewolf on the Barrow-Downs.

The Mod.

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 04:17 PM

Or the phantom of the opera?

Loslote

02-11-2010, 04:22 PM

[Dead:]
There's a sad lack of voting from the ordos in the game
And the wolves and the gifteds too
And, cackling while tic-toc-toeing, an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say "you're dead".
[Alona, Shasta, Phantom:]
You're dead, you're dead.

[Children: Mira, Glirdy, Nog: ]
Regretfully they tell us
(you're dead, you're dead)
But firmly they compel us
(you're dead, you're dead)
To say goodbye . . .
[Alona, Shasta, Phantom:]
You're dead!
[Dead:]
. . . to you!

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night
[Nienna:]
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, adieu
[Gwath:]
Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, au revoir, auf wiedersehen
[Mira:]
I'd like to stay and kill off all of you!

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye
[Pitchie:]
I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye -- Goodbye!

[Nog:]
I'm glad to go, I cannot tell a lie

[Brinn:]
I flit, I float, I fleetly flee, I fly

[Lottie:]
The sun has gone to bed and so must I

[Dead:]
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye

[Living:]
Goodbye!

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 04:22 PM

Mithalwen the Grey Queen?

Haha! Not right but I love it.

Nerwen - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Lottie - I like the name Candy more than Killer. Sally? Care to accomodate? :Merisu:
Fea - Evil, evil pen-pal. I bite my thumb in your general direction!
Rune - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Steve - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Zil - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Wilwa - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Izzy - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Form - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!

One of these is Killer (please, Sally? I wanna be Candy! :p ) and I don't really feel like telling you which. Cookies or votes may inspire me to change my mind. :Merisu:

Lol. You know what you are, dear, and I shan't say it on the thread.

Or is it Gray Queen to you Americans?

*snickers*

The Mod.

Oh gosh.

Or the phantom of the opera?

Oh gosh, it gets better.

The moddess must consider this.

Isabellkya

02-11-2010, 04:41 PM

Could the turned/cursed one of been the One Hit Wonder? And so the wolves actually had no say in whom they turned? But were trying to kill this One Hit Wonder, and instead turned them to the evil side?

A competition? True neutral? I would take a stab and say that role I had in your Weres of Eire game. *shrug* I don't have time to go asearching.

Haha.I watched This is It last week.

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 04:42 PM

Here we are: WW V, Mith's game: http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=12004&page=1

However, if we want to say the Curséd Villager, there was one of those in WW II.

Technically, a Cursed Villager can win with either team--depending whether they get bit or not.

Hmmmm. I'm going to have to say no on the Mythomaniac, because they do align themselves with one side. Sorry munchkin.

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 04:42 PM

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 04:44 PM

But it's same with you and Izzy. If you believe Form, why you should you two get the innocent label but not Inzil?

I don't like this at all...

You're absolutely right. I honestly can't explain where my logic was at the time, for some reason I had Izzy and I in a different category in my mind then Inzil.

Stupid pen-pal. Told you, pack-mate, told you... :rolleyes:

What?!? Is highly confused....

Goes and searches for answers to crazy Shasta question...

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 04:45 PM

Goes and searches for answers to crazy Shasta question...

Dear, the question just got answered. Sorry. :(

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 05:02 PM

Dear, the question just got answered. Sorry. :(

What? :( But I found an answer: in Kath's first game she had something called the Changling, every Night they chose a player and got that person's role for the Night, so depending on who they chose they could be on a different team every Night, therefore could win with either side. No? psh, all that work for nothing. :p My own fault for not realising I had cross posted with you. haha

OK. Watching House now. Be back in about 45 minutes.

Isabellkya

02-11-2010, 05:09 PM

My final votes, then I sadly have to be off for other stuff; and I doubt I will make it back before deadline.

++Wilwa
++Form
++Inziladun

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 05:10 PM

Stupid pen-pal. Told you, pack-mate, told you...

Oh, I might as well put it out there why this confused me. Fea and I are PenPals as well. Brinn also mentioned having a PenPal. Didn't happen to be you again, eh Fea? How interesting....

Sally, your games are whack. *snuggles anyways*

x'ed with Izzy...

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 05:14 PM

Oh, I might as well put it out there why this confused me. Fea and I are PenPals as well. Brinn also mentioned having a PenPal. Didn't happen to be you again, eh Fea? How interesting....

My brain! My brain! *picks up bits scattered around room*

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-11-2010, 05:15 PM

Wilwa, if you make things up like that I'll have to rescind my confidence in you. Lottie is a liar. This we already knew.

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 05:42 PM

So, about Fea being the seer...

I don't like the way the village assumed that Fea was telling the truth straight away. No-one even waited for a counter-reveal.

However, now it's later and there's been no counter-reveal, and I don't think a wolf would reduce their packmate's score if it risked their life. So for now, I think it's better to assume that Fea is the seer - unless she's the Cursed Seer, which would be a crazy mix, but I wouldn't put that past Sally (The Cursed Seer would then find gifteds for the wolves). Or maybe she was just a cursed villager that decided that she didn't want Nog, and so took points away from him to kill him, leaving her to be able to claim seerdom and win the game that way- by pretending to dream innocents every Night from now on. However, those second two theories seem unlikely, so I think I will vote for:

++Fea

As for the others, I think

++Inzil looks innocent; and

++Izzy also looks innocent, and is always good to have around when she is.

The last one will go to either Form or Rune.

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 05:44 PM

I'm too tired to think...

++Form gets my vote.

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 05:48 PM

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 05:50 PM

If I'm still alive toMorrow I'll go into more detail.

But now I'm going to sleep.

edit: x-ed wi' Rune

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 05:51 PM

It would seem that there is more to Fea's role than she reveals, not something I would label "suprising" considering who our mod(s) are.

Maybe she's the One Hit Wonder?

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 05:53 PM

It would seem that there is more to Fea's role than she reveals, not something I would label "suprising" considering who our mod(s) are.

Of course it could be something that Wilwa makes up, but why would she do that after having been put down as "almost innocent" ?

The problem I encounter when trying to analyze the statements given, is that it is all shrouded in the mist of created by the ever interfering mod.

Watch it, Mister, or I'll be fancying a Danish for supper. :p

Also, Izzy's gift for winning that little quiz was to reverse the polarity of someone's votes for the Day (thus allowing that person's votes to take points instead of give them, and me to make a Doctor Who joke today). She chose Fea.

Also also, Lottie's score has, unsurprisingly, been dropped two points by Dun.

That is all. Enjoy your blissfully sweet/short lives. :p

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-11-2010, 05:54 PM

Maybe she's the One Hit Wonder?

This has occurred to me, but I can't find any rational reason to think it's true.

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 05:54 PM

Blast, I missed the WW History Quiz. Not that it would have mattered. :rolleyes:

I see Lottie's accepted her fate? Excellent. Go out with dignity and grace, my lupine foe. :p

++Form

++Steve

So, about Fea being the seer...

I don't like the way the village assumed that Fea was telling the truth straight away. No-one even waited for a counter-reveal.

However, now it's later and there's been no counter-reveal, and I don't think a wolf would reduce their packmate's score if it risked their life. So for now, I think it's better to assume that Fea is the seer - unless she's the Cursed Seer, which would be a crazy mix, but I wouldn't put that past Sally (The Cursed Seer would then find gifteds for the wolves). Or maybe she was just a cursed villager that decided that she didn't want Nog, and so took points away from him to kill him, leaving her to be able to claim seerdom and win the game that way- by pretending to dream innocents every Night from now on. However, those second two theories seem unlikely, so I think I will vote for:

If any of that is the case, it's far too complex for my poor addled brain. I thought her taking away points from Nog was proof enough. Also, as you said, someone is the Seer, and they aren't dead. I would really hope the true Seer would have stepped forward right away if Fea was lying.

x/d with the last 5 or so

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-11-2010, 05:55 PM

Ooh!

++Lottie

We'll just super extra make sure, shall we?

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 05:57 PM

Fea a "One Hit Wonder"?!?!?!

I don't know, when I think of Fea, Eiffel 65 is not the first thing that pops into mind.

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 05:58 PM

Fea a "One Hot Wonder"?!?!?!

Rune... :rolleyes:

Ok, now I'm really going to sleep

Eönwë

02-11-2010, 06:00 PM

If any of that is the case, it's far too complex for my poor addled brain. I thought her taking away points from Nog was proof enough. Also, as you said, someone is the Seer, and they aren't dead. I would really hope the true Seer would have stepped forward right away if Fea was lying.

Agreed on the first and last points. On the second though- there's never enough proof in WW! :p

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 06:00 PM

Rune... :rolleyes:

Ok, now I'm really going to sleep

OK that might have bee a freudian slip.

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 06:02 PM

Shastanis Althreduin

02-11-2010, 06:17 PM

Hey, I was the first one to say "reverse polarity". :(

Loslote

02-11-2010, 06:22 PM

What?!? Is highly confused...

*giggles* Yay! I can die happy.

Wilwa, if you make things up like that I'll have to rescind my confidence in you. Lottie is a liar. This we already knew.

Nonsense! I speak only the truth! Honest!

WaAlso also, Lottie's score has, unsurprisingly, been dropped two points by Dun.

Boo!

I see Lottie's accepted her fate? Excellent. Go out with dignity and grace, my lupine foe. :p

Yes, quite. That is why I am spamming the thread with song parodies. Dignity and grace...totallly. :p

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 06:23 PM

Of course it could be something that Wilwa makes up, but why would she do that after having been put down as "almost innocent" ?

Yes.
I am a Psychology Major. I like screwing with peoples' minds to gather information in the hopes of furthering my own personal understanding of human behaviour. That is all I have to say on the matter.

My last two votes? Still not sure, going to think about it a bit and vote later.

x'ed with Shasta and wolf

Loslote

02-11-2010, 06:25 PM

Werewolf's packmate dies
Dreamed by the Seer
Doesn't know what to do
(S)he feels sorry for her,
And filled with pride
Oh fragile flame
No one feels the same.

Werewolf goes about the Day
Trying to think of good things to say
Like "this is just a game I play",
And "I like it this way."
Oh, fragile flame.
Well, no one feels the same.

Night. Think hard. And...kill.
Who to Night-kill?
Avoid the Ranger,
But Seer's deadly.
Maybe kill an ordo?

Werewolf says "Wouldn't it be nice
If I could find another Cursed,
or a cobbler to help me out."
Oh, fragile flame.
You know I feel the same.

Loslote

02-11-2010, 06:31 PM

Packmates, you taught me to do the wrong thing
But now you've got to let your Lottie die.
You've taught be everything that I would need,
To make it through this crazy game, Werewolf.

And I know you watched me struggle,
And wanted to see me survive,
But I don't think that it will turn out well.

And Fea's good, too good.
She dreams of your little Lottie like a Seer should.
She is good, too good.
She dreams of wolves she kills,
And she's never gonna cease,
So don't you try to save me.
Don't you try to save me.

Packmates, there's no way you'll ever lose me.
Watching me die is not good-bye.
As you watch me walk down to my future,
I know tears of rage are in your eyes.

'Cause Fea's good, too good.
She dreams of your little Lottie like a Seer should.
She is good, too good.
She dreams of wolves she kills,
And she's never gonna cease,
So don't you try to save me.
Don't you try to save me.

Loslote

02-11-2010, 06:41 PM

We'd like to know
A little bit about you
For our files.
We'd like to lynch you now
To help ourselves.
Look around you. All you see
Are unsympathetic eyes.
Stroll around the grounds
Until you die toDay.

And here's to you, Little Miss Lottie,
Moddess loves you more than you will know (Wo wo wo).
Sally bless you, please, Little Miss Lottie,
We know what to do with evil wolves (Hey hey hey, hey hey
hey).

We'd like to know
A little bit about you
For our files.
We'd like to lynch you now
To help ourselves.
Look around you. All you see
Are unsympathetic eyes.
Stroll around the grounds
Until you die toDay.

Hide it in a hiding place
Where no one ever goes.
Maybe in you pantry with your cookies.
It's a little secret,
Just the Werewolves' affair.
Most of all, you've got to hide it
from the others.

Coo coo ca-choo, Little Miss Lottie,
Moddess loves you more than you will know (Wo wo wo).
Sally bless you, please, Little Miss Lottie,
We know what to do with those who kill. (Hey hey hey, hey hey hey).

Sitting on a sofa
On a Thursday afternoon,
Going to the werewolfers' debate,
Laugh about it,
Shout about it,
When you've got to choose,
Every way you look at it you lose.

Where have you gone, Shastanis Althreduin?
All players turn their lonely eyes to you (Ooo ooo ooo).

What's that you say, Little Miss Lottie?
"Shastanis has left and gone away" (Hey hey hey, hey hey hey).

Loslote

02-11-2010, 06:46 PM

Stick around. I'll post a couple of Song Parodies during the last ten minutes that reveal: *censored - but exciting*

Loslote

02-11-2010, 06:58 PM

Nerwen - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Lottie - I like the name Candy more than Killer. Sally? Care to accomodate? :Merisu:
Fea - Evil, evil pen-pal. I bite my thumb in your general direction!
Rune - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Steve - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Zil - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Wilwa - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Izzy - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Form - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!

One of these is Killer (please, Sally? I wanna be Candy! :p ) and I don't really feel like telling you which. Cookies or votes may inspire me to change my mind. :Merisu:

Ooh!

++Lottie

We'll just super extra make sure, shall we?

Hmm. I did say votes might inspire me to change my mind. But since it's not really a vote for me, I shall tell you who is not a wolf:

...

...

wait for it...

...

Shasta, despite early suspicions, turns out not to be a wolf.

Loslote

02-11-2010, 07:11 PM

++Rune
++Izzy
++Nerwen
++Wilwa

Not necessarily in that order, mind, and Fea's still an obvious choice. :Merisu:

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 07:22 PM

First things first

++Fea

I'll distribute the others as needed.

In any game I have ever played, they did not know... but Sally has been known to make up her own rules before... but I'm pretty sure the poem said they "knew not" what they were.

This is neither here nor there, but– just as a point of interest– I did once play in a game where the Cursed knew her role from the start (and, being Aganzir, made sure the wolves found out).

Of course it could be something that Wilwa makes up, but why would she do that after having been put down as "almost innocent" ?

Yes.
I am a Psychology Major. I like screwing with peoples' minds to gather information in the hopes of furthering my own personal understanding of human behaviour. That is all I have to say on the matter.

So you were making it up?

Um... I really think you should have more to say on the matter...

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 07:29 PM

Hey, I was the first one to say "reverse polarity". :(

Ah, trufax. Sorry dear. I just remembered that it had been mentioned and I knew we had to use it. *pets you*

This is neither here nor there, but– just as a point of interest– I did once play in a game where the Cursed knew her role from the start (and, being Aganzir, made sure the wolves found out)

Oh, and a good game that was....

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 07:40 PM

Oh, and a good game that was....

Yes indeed... despite the efforts of the legendary Worst Cobbler Ever...:D (Though he's possibly since lost that title to your co-mod...)

EDIT: typo.

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-11-2010, 07:47 PM

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 07:51 PM

Yes indeed... despite the efforts of the legendary Worst Cobbler Ever...:D (Though he's possibly since lost that title to your co-mod...)

EDIT: typo.

Haha! I think I have bad luck with my cobblers, that's all. And we still love them. *squishes Mac and Shasta, snuggles them tightly*

Loslote

02-11-2010, 07:57 PM

If I can't pass on the dream results of toNight, just know that our Cursed is almost definitely Rune or Steve.

Ha! She finally agrees with me. Wilwa's evil, too, btw. So's Form and the Phantom and Zil and Nerwen and Izzy and ... um ... did I miss anyone? If so, sorry. You're evil, too. Except me, who is wonderful. :Merisu:

Oh, and the mods are amazing, too.

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 08:00 PM

Ha! She finally agrees with me. Wilwa's evil, too, btw. So's Form and the Phantom and Zil and Nerwen and Izzy and ... um ... did I miss anyone? If so, sorry. You're evil, too. Except me, who is wonderful. :Merisu:

Oh, and the mods are amazing, too.

Listen, young lady. Do you know where this kind of behavior will get you? I mean, really. Blanket-suspicion, kissing up to the mods, prancing about like a silly fool. Look at you. Do you know where that will get you?

Everywhere. :Merisu:

Loslote

02-11-2010, 08:06 PM

Listen, young lady. Do you know where this kind of behavior will get you? I mean, really. Blanket-suspicion, kissing up to the mods, prancing about like a silly fool. Look at you. Do you know where that will get you?

Everywhere. :Merisu:

Yes, ma'm. :D

Loslote

02-11-2010, 08:07 PM

Kill Claudio!!!

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 08:13 PM

So you were making it up?

Um... I really think you should have more to say on the matter...

*nods*
Can't.

vote count please? or perhaps I'll go make one meself...

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 08:18 PM

I believe this is the current tally:

Fea - 5
Form - 4
Wilwa - 2
Inzil - 2
Izzy - 2
Steve - 1
Lottie - -1
Rune - 1
Nerwen - 1

And I think that's everyone, so everyone has a vote (or a neg vote like sing-a-long wolfie).

Loslote

02-11-2010, 08:19 PM

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 08:21 PM

*nods*
Can't.

All right then.

Although I think Form is likely to be innocent, it would seem safest to make Fea Simon again toNight.

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 08:22 PM

Oh, of course, Simon took 2 from you then Lottie?

Fea - 5
Form - 4
Wilwa - 2
Inzil - 2
Izzy - 2
Steve - 1
Lottie - -3
Rune - 1
Nerwen - 1

Fixed. You are officially doomed.

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 08:24 PM

++Fea
++Nerwen
++Inziladun

Loslote

02-11-2010, 08:24 PM

Oh, of course, Simon took 2 from you then Lottie?

Fea - 5
Form - 4
Wilwa - 2
Inzil - 2
Izzy - 2
Steve - 1
Lottie - -3
Rune - 1
Nerwen - 1

Fixed. You are officially doomed.

Yep yep yep! :D

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 08:25 PM

Even though it's obvious who will be lynched and who will be Simon, I'll make my last two votes anyway:

++ Inzil

++ Izzy

I'll probably go to bed before DL comes around. I'm exhausted. May still stay around for a tad longer though, we'll see.

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 08:25 PM

for funz

Fea - 6
Form - 4
Wilwa - 2
Inzil - 4
Izzy - 3
Steve - 1
Lottie - -3
Rune - 1
Nerwen - 2

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 08:26 PM

1. Hehehe!
2. No, I have -3, not -1.

I know this makes sense, but -3? I can't remember why.

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 08:27 PM

I know this makes sense, but -3? I can't remember why.

*cough*Simon*cough*
*cough*Feapowers*cough*
*cough*givemecookie*cough*

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 08:27 PM

I know this makes sense, but -3? I can't remember why.

Izzy's reverse polarity on Fea.

x/d with Wilwa

Loslote

02-11-2010, 08:28 PM

I know this makes sense, but -3? I can't remember why.

Fea and Zil neg-voted me, dearest Miss Moddess.

xed with many explanations from evil people

Loslote

02-11-2010, 08:29 PM

*cough*Simon*cough*
*cough*Feapowers*cough*
*cough*givemecookie*cough*

You've got a nasty cough there. Better that taken care of, or you might die during the Night or something! :eek:

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 08:30 PM

Izzy's reverse polarity on Fea.

x/d with Wilwa

Riiiight. Lol I think Fea voted during my nap and I missed it.

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 08:32 PM

You've got a nasty cough there. Better that taken care of, or you might die during the Night or something! :eek:

I think it's your bad wolfie smell screwing with my breathing actually, you dying should make it a bit better. :Merisu:

Woah. Just realised how close I am to 2000 posts. Wonder if I can achieve this with vote tallies....

Formendacil

02-11-2010, 08:34 PM

I daresay the wine at supper hasn't helped any... though I'm pretty sure I'm still sober... but this is decidedly the least sensible village I've ever been a citizen of--in the sense that I can't make sense of "the rules" at all. I'm not entirely sure there are any.

++ Fea
++ Inzil
++ Izzy
++ Rune

I'm sort of around until the deadline, but there are birthday reasons to be disappearing soon enough, and (as my dear Fea noted), I've kind of not been very conspicuous this. I guess I'm just not much invested in it--I mean, I want the village to win... but not quite the extent that I'm much likely to knuckle down and sort things out... not least because I like things to be systematic and possible to sort out, and I'm half-certain they can't be here.

Let's just say that I'm emotionally distraught after murdering Pitch and losing my dearest Nienna. If you need me, I'll be daydreaming about her and our all too brief time together. ;)

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 08:35 PM

So should we start talking about who to lynch next or will we just wait until tomorrow and see what Lady of the Sketchy Puddle has to say? (Fea)

Loslote

02-11-2010, 08:37 PM

I think it's your bad wolfie smell screwing with my breathing actually, you dying should make it a bit better. :Merisu:

Nonsense. I smell wonderful. I used TONS of RoadKill Rage perfume this morning.

I daresay the wine at supper hasn't helped any... though I'm pretty sure I'm still sober... but this is decidedly the least sensible village I've ever been a citizen of--in the sense that I can't make sense of "the rules" at all. I'm not entirely sure there are any.

What are these "rules" you speak of?

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 08:38 PM

So a general update:

Zil –trustworthy
Izzy –trustworthy
Fea –trustworthy
Nerwen –trustworthy
Wilwa –trustworthy

Form –probably trustworthy

Rune –not sure
Steve –not sure

Lottie –definitely evil

If Wilwa is evil she deserves to win. If Form is evil, he doesn't deserve to win because of his conspicuous absence.

If I can't pass on the dream results of toNight, just know that our Cursed is almost definitely Rune or Steve.

AFter reading through yesterDay, I think you're probably right, just by elimination. Firstly, Lottie and Nog both were heavily pushing Wilwa as a lynch-candidate. Though I suppose anything's possible, it sure doesn't look like wolf-on-wolf. Neither do Zil and and Izzy's attacks on Lottie. ANd since we now know they can't both be wolves, I can't see why a Wolfendacil would want to clear Inzil as he did. He could have just kept quiet.

Also, a couple of minor points:

Here (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=623415&postcount=429) Eönwë disputes one of Zil's points against Lottie. Also, though he voted for Fea toDay, at the same he seems to be subtly casting doubt on her. (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=623678&postcount=619)

Meanwhile, though Rune hardly posted at all yesterDay due to internet troubles, so that it's hard to get a read on him, note that he did vote Lottie (among others), and that Nogrod voted for him. (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=623467&postcount=475) Both Nog and Lottie were in trouble at that stage, while Rune had no other votes.

Now, you could probably find points like that against everyone, so I'm not saying there's a watertight case against either. But I certainly cant find any reason you shouldn't pick one of them to dream.

EDIT:x'd with a host.

Loslote

02-11-2010, 08:39 PM

So should we start talking about who to lynch next or will we just wait until tomorrow and see what Lady of the Sketchy Puddle has to say? (Fea)

Oh, yes. You guys should totally lynch someone tomorrow. I'm thinking The Phantom.

wilwarin538

02-11-2010, 08:40 PM

Fea - 7
Form - 4
Wilwa - 2
Inzil - 5
Izzy - 4
Steve - 1
Lottie - -3
Rune - 2
Nerwen - 2

(only one more post, maybe I should leave and save it for something epic....)

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 08:45 PM

So should we start talking about who to lynch next or will we just wait until tomorrow and see what Lady of the Sketchy Puddle has to say? (Fea)

Well, what our Seer has to say will be our main focus toMorrow, but any suspicions could certainly be brought up now, if you like.

Obviously I'm inclined to think well of Fea at the moment.

Next in the 'likely innocent' list is Nerwen, because of the way she kept on suspecting Lottie before Fea's reveal. If she's a wolf and wins, she's earned it.

As for everyone else, I'd like to read back over things to see if anything comes to light.

z/d with the wolf, Nerwen, and Wilwa

Nerwen

02-11-2010, 08:45 PM

So now Lottie's death is certain?

All right, then–

++Izzy
++Wilwa
++Form

EDIT:X'd since my last post.

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-11-2010, 08:50 PM

++Steve
++Rune

Fea - 7
Form - 5
Wilwa - 3
Inzil - 5
Izzy - 5
Steve - 0
Lottie - -3
Rune - 1
Nerwen - 2

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 08:53 PM

++Nerwen

Loslote

02-11-2010, 08:54 PM

When my time comes to an end
Don't be sad, don't you shed one tear
Just think back to when I was almost
Innocent, and yet I always was
An evil being...

Don't be sad or broken-hearted!
I was the cobbler and wanted you all dead!
Everybody knows that's an awesome role to be!

But there's a better one.
And that's what I am now.
For all eternity, sounds like heaven to me!
Yeah, yeah, yeah!

Why be good when you can not?

If I must go, I will go out in style!

Don't be sad or broken-hearted!
I am evil and I want you all dead!
And everybody knows werewolves have all the fun!

Kill all of you...

I have evilness!
For all eternity, sounds like heaven to me!

Kill all of you!

I have evilness!
For all eternity, sounds like heaven to me!
Yeah, yeah, yeah!

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-11-2010, 08:58 PM

Yeah I must admit that Nerwen looks quite innocent, so does most people actually.

I guess it is only me and Steve who hasn't done anything very innocent-like.

I belive that Form was definitly innocent in the begining and it is not that he has done anything specially wolfish. . . but our supreme beings might have thought it wicked awsome to make him a cursed lover.

Wilwa was a bit weird earlier today. . . dunno what that was about.

So I guess what I am saying is that "I got nothing" (when it comes to proper suspicions)

Inziladun

02-11-2010, 08:59 PM

Shut it, wolf. Thy hour draweth nigh. :p

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 09:04 PM

DL (and a bit of change).

Do you really need me to tell you who Lottie was? Really?

Oh, all right, fine, ruin my fun. She was Candy the Cursed Cobbler. (Aka wolf.)

satansaloser2005

02-11-2010, 10:11 PM

Lottie walked in just as Fea was telling the rest of the group that she was evil. She sighed but after a moment she shrugged. “Now it’s time to die,” she said. “Death is a-”

“Yeah, she’s totally evil,” Fea was saying. “I mean really, how obvious can you get?”

“Dream or not, I could tell,” said Rune. “Soooo obvious.”

Finally Lottie had had enough and she burst into loud and obnoxious song.

Look who's evil
Look who's evil
Look who's evil now

I know you all were dreaming of or discussing me last Night
I bet you won’t be laughing when I skewer you all alive!
I'll kill your lovers I'll take your gifteds too
Then I'll take Simon and make them take votes from all of you!

Just try and get me lynched
I'll give you your own barrow
If being evil's cool
Consider me a beloved shadow
Now I'll ask you a question. No I don’t want a vote count!
Guess who?
Look who's evil now

Lottie struck a pose, her arms sticking out at her sides and her chewed-on nails ready to slash out at the nearest competitor. But no one was looking. She frowned and burst into song again.

Look who's evil
Look who's evil
Look who's evil now

I said look who's evil
Look who's evil
Look who's evil now

Izzy turned around and smiled. “Sorry, dear, did you say something?”

Lottie sighed and from above a spot light descended. She trudged into the middle of the group and the light followed her, illuminating her hand-me-down jumpsuit. Everyone turned to watch, finally paying attention to her.

I'm the girl that plays in every Werewolf game
I know I may be pretty new but I want to earn my fame

I’m rarely picked as Night kill, I never thought that I’d get turned
If the village kills off the whole wolf team they’d just all wander off looking stern

‘Cause I'm a minor werewolf, an amateur villain
I'd rip the flesh from your bones but I don’t even have claws
I haven’t killed anyone, the other players make fun...

Wilwa rolled her eyes and stomped away. “You smell!”

....Of me. Little Lottie. Oooo....The minor werewolf

Fea cleared her throat to avoid laughing and stepped up to Lottie. “But don't you see, Lottie? We've been reading your posts for the last few hours. You've parodied a whole lot just now. Just you!”

Ghostly voices chorused, “You’re telling me....”

Fea just glared at them. “Aw, you're not a minor werewolf anymore,” she said, turning back to Lottie. “You're a real baddie. And we’re going to lynch you!” Lottie smiled and the lights around them all lit up as she began to dance.

You're right! Now I see that I’m a real-life baddie
I've posted a few times and stirred up some activity
I'm a cobbler no more! My alignment’s on the slide
And now its time for this werewolf to die, die, die! Ahhhh....

And then Dun shot her in the face.

Shastanis Althreduin

02-12-2010, 05:28 PM

Note - please to be forwarding all PMs to me as well as Sally, in case (like tonight) she can't be here to start the Day. Thanks! :)

Shastanis Althreduin

02-12-2010, 09:32 PM

Killer gets no kill, for the Ranger smacked them on the nose with a rolled up newspaper.

There'll be an actual narration once Sally is available, but feel free to start talking.

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-12-2010, 09:49 PM

Aww, did all y'all wait for me?

Let's all snuggle our favorite Ranger and then kill STEVE who is our last wolf.

And now that I've arrived at Mira's, if you want me, text me.

Soon, but not immediately, we'll have a crazy party and make Sally love us extra much.

As Simon, I hereby dock two points from Steve and vote

++Nerwen
++Zil
++Wilwa
++Sally :Merisu:

Inziladun

02-12-2010, 09:57 PM

Snuggles for me? Well thanks very much! You're well deserving yourself. ;)

Nerwen

02-12-2010, 10:28 PM

Snuggles for me? Well thanks very much! You're well deserving yourself. ;)

So it's you, Zil! Nice work!

Inziladun

02-12-2010, 10:42 PM

Thanks, Nerwen!
I'm somewhat hesitant to vote just now, for fear of another reverse polarity incident or something similar. ;)

Nerwen

02-12-2010, 11:39 PM

Thanks, Nerwen!
I'm somewhat hesitant to vote just now, for fear of another reverse polarity incident or something similar. ;)

Do you know I feel that way too?:eek:

Our moddess does have a wonderful way of screwing with our heads, doesn't she?

Still, she didn't announce any little competitions, and it would be pretty unfair to do that after we'd voted, so I believe I'll take the plunge:

++Fea
++Zil
++Izzy

EDIT:removed last vote as per new rule.

Nerwen

02-12-2010, 11:42 PM

Hey, Zil, last time you were the Ranger, wasn't it that game? The one where Fea and Sauce were Lovers and they sold us out to the wolves?

Formendacil

02-13-2010, 12:24 AM

Wait... do we win?

*waits to see what Sally has up her sleeve... goes to bed in the meantime*

*isn't sure how it happened anyway*

*will save his votes... mostly because he's too tired and can't be bothered*

*W00ts a little, as he vanishes*

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 12:37 AM

Gah. Erm, I thought I had a blank post to put up a narration but I don't. I'll do a bit of clever shifting, though, and it'll be all right.

And yes, do wait to see what I have up my sleeve. You've caught all the wolves, but what now? *bats eyelashes*

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 12:49 AM

Because there's less than half the original number of players you've all only got three votes now, not four. Sorry I didn't say it before, but I wasn't here and I totally forgot to instruct my amazing co-mod to tell you. So yeah.

Repeat. Three votes per person. Kthnxbye. (If you've already put out four votes just retract the one you don't wish to count, there's no need to re-vote.)

Nerwen

02-13-2010, 01:14 AM

And yes, do wait to see what I have up my sleeve. You've caught all the wolves, but what now? *bats eyelashes*

Oh, come on. You're not going to reverse all our votes, are you?:rolleyes:

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 01:18 AM

Oh, come on. You're not going to reverse all our votes, are you?:rolleyes:

Certainly not. We've done that already, after all.

You know, I'd love to sit outside in a gazebo and sip some tea right now. Too bad the weather's awful (and it's the middle of the night). That and I don't think there's a proper gazebo for miles. :(

Nerwen

02-13-2010, 01:26 AM

You have tea in America?:confused:

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 01:30 AM

You have tea in America?:confused:

Erm, duh? Iced tea, flavored tea, sun tea, sweet tea. And then of course proper tea, which is better anyway. ^_^

Nerwen

02-13-2010, 01:48 AM

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 01:56 AM

Well, well. You learn something new every day.:cool:

...And indeed some of you will shortly be learning something new from me. But I think I'll wait a little while, to see what our moddess is up to now.

I think it may in your best interest to keep that something new to yourself. If it's what I think it is, anyway. *is just sayin'* Game ain't over yet, after all.

And now to bed with me. Play nicely while I'm gone. ^_^

Nerwen

02-13-2010, 02:31 AM

Respectfully, dear Moddess, I can't help feeling that another fake-out ending to this game would be a trifle anti-climactic.

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 02:36 AM

Respectfully, dear Moddess, I can't help feeling that another fake-out ending to this game would be a trifle anti-climactic.

Oi, I never said the game was over with before. Just sayin'.

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 06:36 AM

And yes, do wait to see what I have up my sleeve. You've caught all the wolves, but what now? *bats eyelashes*

Indeed. Lottie was the last wolf. Fea is a liar. I have to come out now to take over the village. I am the Wizard of Questionable Morality!

Inziladun

02-13-2010, 07:12 AM

Hey, Zil, last time you were the Ranger, wasn't it that game? The one where Fea and Sauce were Lovers and they sold us out to the wolves?

That would be it. The song parodies while awaiting my demise were quite fun. ;)

And yes, do wait to see what I have up my sleeve. You've caught all the wolves, but what now? *bats eyelashes*

A fight to the death with empty Kleenex boxes? A karaoke contest using only John Denver songs?

...And indeed some of you will shortly be learning something new from me. But I think I'll wait a little while, to see what our moddess is up to now.

It wouldn't surprise me at this point if everyone but me had a secret role which allowed them to win upon the death of the Ranger. :rolleyes:

Indeed. Lottie was the last wolf. Fea is a liar. I have to come out now to take over the village. I am the Wizard of Questionable Morality!

The Wizard of Questionable Morality? That's my title!

Nerwen

02-13-2010, 07:44 AM

A fight to the death with empty Kleenex boxes? A karaoke contest using only John Denver songs?

NOOOOOOOOOO!

It wouldn't surprise me at this point if everyone but me had a secret role which allowed them to win upon the death of the Ranger. :rolleyes:

How did you guess?;)

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 07:52 AM

It wouldn't surprise me at this point if everyone but me had a secret role which allowed them to win upon the death of the Ranger. :rolleyes:

Well, that's always is an option...

edit: missed word

wilwarin538

02-13-2010, 08:45 AM

mwahaha, good job Fea!!!

So because I have this feeling that there is alot more going on then it seems, I'm going to hold off on my 3 votes.

I have to go to work in a couple of hours for like 8 hours, so I won't be around for a while. But I'll be here in plenty of time for deadline.

Feanor of the Peredhil

02-13-2010, 10:04 AM

Sallllllly, don't I deserve to win yet? Pweeeease?

And I so had an Eminem parody planned for today... Alas.

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 11:23 AM

Indeed. Lottie was the last wolf. Fea is a liar. I have to come out now to take over the village. I am the Wizard of Questionable Morality!

Steve! I told you you weren't supposed to tell anyone! *headdesks*

Sallllllly, don't I deserve to win yet? Pweeeease?

And I so had an Eminem parody planned for today... Alas.

If you post it I will kill you. And you can win if you survive, my precious, not before.

Formendacil

02-13-2010, 01:42 PM

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-13-2010, 03:52 PM

We should mention that complete lack of solid information in this game is highly demotivating--like, someone ought to make a demotivational poster about it. The tagline could be something like: "Sally's Werewolf: Even the phantom doesn't know what's going on."

Actually, he probably does... but if he were in-game he'd probably feel that way.

Sooooooo... I'll be around for about an hour, and then I'm going home for Reading Break and make no promises to be around before the deadline. This means that if you want me to vote, you need to snap me out of this demotivated slump.

For the record Sally's continual hints that there are major plots twists ahead do not count as motivation.

Just saying.

In fact these hints of plot twists is a massive factor in the inactivity (at least mine), you don't want to risk anything so you just lean back and let time go. . .

I should be arround till deadline.

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 05:49 PM

This means that if you want me to vote, you need to snap me out of this demotivated slump.

In fact these hints of plot twists is a massive factor in the inactivity (at least mine), you don't want to risk anything so you just lean back and let time go. . .

Come on! Show some spirit! Show me some fire! Show me your war face (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6vHOR8lzTg)! (slight language warning)

Isabellkya

02-13-2010, 06:17 PM

Oh dear.. ?

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 06:23 PM

Ok... Fea... you know what to do! It's time!

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-13-2010, 06:24 PM

Ok I shall try to entertain the mods. . .and the dead.

I shall re-write stuff (and I suck at it)

Words of wisdom when hunting wolves:

No cow's like a wolf,
and no wolf like a cow.
That's one similarity
anyhow.

The Seer's Dream interpretation:

Simplified.
Everything's either
concave or -vex,
so whatever you dream
will be something with. . . wolf. :Merisu:

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 06:31 PM

We should mention that complete lack of solid information in this game is highly demotivating--like, someone ought to make a demotivational poster about it. The tagline could be something like: "Sally's Werewolf: Even the phantom doesn't know what's going on."

Actually, he probably does... but if he were in-game he'd probably feel that way.

Sooooooo... I'll be around for about an hour, and then I'm going home for Reading Break and make no promises to be around before the deadline. This means that if you want me to vote, you need to snap me out of this demotivated slump.

For the record Sally's continual hints that there are major plots twists ahead do not count as motivation.

Just saying.

Actually, Phantom doesn't know what's going on.

Form darling, I did say there were cookies involved for the winner. Doesn't that motivate you? :(

Come on! Show some spirit! Show me some fire! Show me your war face (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6vHOR8lzTg)! (slight language warning)

Yay Steve! That's the spirit, dearie! :)

And I'm hardly going to pull any fun stuff toDay. It's Saturday and I'm far too busy cleaning house. So have your fun and perhaps there shall be antics toMorrow. Go on, entertain your dead compatriots! It can't hurt!

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 06:32 PM

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
See them all confused from one of Sally's games, see how they post.
I'm crying.

Sitting in the village, waiting for the lynch to come.
Were-ewolfing killing, stupid Day 5 lynching.
Man, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow fur.
I am the ranger, they are the lovers.
I'm the last werewolf, goo goo g'joob.

Mister Villager Ranger sitting
Pretty little vill'gers in a row.
See how they fly from werewolves in the Night, see how they run.
I'm crying, I'm crying.
I'm crying, I'm crying.

Yellow matter custard, dripping from the last wolf kill.
Yes they are disgusting, no it is not their fault,
Boy, you been a naughty girl you wanted to lynch me.
I am the ranger, they are the lovers.
I'm the last werewolf, goo goo g'joob.

Sitting in the village centre waiting to be lynched.
If lynch votes don't come, you still get lynched
From not getting as many votes.
I am the ranger, they are the lovers.
I'm the last werewolf, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob.

Expert textpert dying werewolves,
Don't you think the phantom laughs at you?
See how they smile like villagers at Day,
See their revenge.
I'm crying.

Strange new little spambots, climbing up the 'Downs Rep ladder.
Reference to Lommy, randomly in this song.
Man, you should have seen some of my other song versions.
I am the ranger, they are the lovers.
I'm the last werewolf, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob.
Goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob g'goo.

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 06:51 PM

I didn't want to be a werewolf anyway. I wanted to be... an innocent!

Leaping from post to post as they float down the mighty threads of Middle-Earth Mirth! The Kuru! The Mithalwen! The Phantom! The mighty SPM!

The smell of fresh-lynched werewolf! The mistake lynching of seers!
With my best PM buddy by my side, we'd post, post, post...

I'm an innocent, and I'm okay!
I sleep all Night and I post all day.

Rest of village: He's an innocent, and he's okay!
He sleeps all Night and he posts all day.

Eönwë: I lynch werewolves, I make up schemes,
Make accusations at a pinch.
On Day 1s I post banter
and an innocent I'll lynch.

Rest of village: He lynches werewolves, he makes up schemes,
Makes accusations at a pinch.
On Day 1s he posts banter
and an innocent he'll lynch.

Eönwë: I vote too late, I make fake lists,
I like to confuse all.
I don't always vote rightly
And follow evil's call!

Rest of village: He votes too late, He makes fake lists,
He likes to confuse all.
He doesn't always vote rightly
And follows evil's call!?

Eönwë: I post at day, PM at Night,
Choose who I want to kill!
I wish I'd been a werewolf,
just like Formendacil!

Rest of village: He posts at day, PMs... at night?
Chooses who he wants to kill?!

*leave in disgust*

Eönwë: I wish I'd been a werewolf,
just like Formendacil!

His PM Buddy: Oh, Eönwë! And I thought you were so INNOCENT!!

Inziladun

02-13-2010, 06:58 PM

In fact these hints of plot twists is a massive factor in the inactivity (at least mine), you don't want to risk anything so you just lean back and let time go. . .

That's pretty much my mindset. I don't think what's to come is anything I'd have been likely to forsee, so I plan to simply hold my votes for the time being and see what happens.

Heh, Eönwë. I tried composing something to the Lumberjack Song earlier, during the song parody contest, but I couldn't come up with anything that creative.

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 07:23 PM

VILLAGE:
A wolf! A wolf! A wolf! A wolf! We've found a wolf! A wolf! A wolf! A wolf! A wolf! We've got a wolf! A wolf! A wolf! Lynch him! Lynch him!
Lynch him! We've found a wolf! We've found a wolf! A wolf! A wolf! A wolf!

FEA:
We have found a wolf. May we lynch him?

CROWD:
Lynch him! Lynch! Lynch him! Lynch him!

SALLY:
How do you know he is a wolf?

NERWEN:
He looks like one.

VILLAGE:
Right! Yeah! Yeah!

SALLY:
Bring him forward.

EÖNWË:
I'm not a wolf. I'm not a wolf.

SALLY:
Uh, but you are covered in fur.

EÖNWË:
They dressed me up like this.

VILLAGE:
Augh, we didn't! We didn't...

EÖNWË:
And these aren't my fangs. They're false ones.

SALLY:
Well?

FEA:
Well, we did do the teeth.

SALLY:
The teeth?

FEA:
And the fur, but he is a wolf!

NERWEN:
Yeah!

VILLAGE:
We lynch him! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!

SALLY:
Did you dress her up like this?

FEA:
No!

NERWEN and INZIL:
No. No.

NERWEN:
No.

FEA:
No.

NERWEN and INZIL:
No.

FEA:
Yes.

NERWEN:
Yes.

FEA:
Yes. Yeah, a bit.

INZIL:
A bit.

FEA and NERWEN:
A bit.

INZIL:
A bit.

VILLAGER #1:
He has got sharp teeth.

*cough*

SALLY:
What makes you think he is a wolf?

INZIL:
Well, he Night killed me.

BEDEVERE:
Killed you?

INZIL:
I got better.

NERWEN:
Lynch him anyway!

FEA:
Lynch!

VILLAGE:
Lynch him! Lynch! Lynch him!...

SALLY:
Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether he is a wolf.

FEA:
Are there?

NERWEN:
Ah?

FEA:
What are they?

VILLAGE:
Tell us! Tell us!...

NERWEN:
Do they hurt?

SALLY:
Tell me. What do you do with wolves?

NERWEN:
Lynch!

FEA:
Lynch!

VILLAGE:
Lynch! Lynch them all! Lynch!...

BEDEVERE:
And what do you lynch apart from wolves?

FEA:
More wolves!

INZIL:
Shh!

NERWEN:
Bears

BEDEVERE:
So, why do wolves burn?
[pause]

INZIL:
B--... 'cause they're made of... bear?

SALLY:
Good! Heh heh.

VILLAGE:
Oh, yeah. Oh.

SALLY:
So, how do we tell whether he is a bear?

FEA:
Seer dream him.

SALLY:
Ah, but can you not also seer dream an innocent?

FEA:
Oh, yeah.

IZZY:
Oh, yeah. True. Uhh...

SALLY:
Do bears hunt at Night?

FEA:
Yes. Yes.

NERWEN:
Yes, they do! They do!

FEA:
Check if he hunts at Night!

VILLAGE:
Check! Check if he hunts at Night!

SALLY:
What also hunts at Night?

FEA:
Vampires!

NERWEN:
Wizards!

INZIL:
Uh, very small rocks!

FEA:
Potatoes!

NERWEN:
Uh, Ra-racoons!

FEA:
Tigers!

NERWEN:
Bats!

INZIL:
Uh, churches! Churches!

NERWEN:
Lead! Lead!

SHASTA:
An owl!

VILLAGE:
Oooh.

SALLY:
Exactly. So, logically...

FEA:
If... he... weighs... the same as an owl,... he's made of bear.

SALLY:
And therefore?

NERWEN:
A wolf!

FEA:
A wolf!

VILLAGE:
A wolf! A wolf!...

FORM:
Here is an owl. Use this owl.
[quack quack quack]

SHASTA: *whispers* It's a duck.

SALLY:
Very good. We shall use my largest scales.

VILLAGE:
Ohh! Ohh! Lynch the wolf! Lynch the wolf! Lynch him! Lynch him! Lynch him! Lynch him! Lynch him! Lynch him! Lynch him! Ahh! Ahh...

SALLY:
Right. Remove the supports!
[whop]
[clunk]
[creak]

VILLAGE:
A wolf! A wolf! A wolf!

EÖNWË:
It's a fair cop.

INZIL:
Lynch him! Lynch him!

VILLAGE:
Lynch him! Lynch him! Lynch him! Lynch! Lynch!...

(I found the original script online and couldn't resist changing it)

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 07:24 PM

Heh, Eönwë. I tried composing something to the Lumberjack Song earlier, during the song parody contest, but I couldn't come up with anything that creative.

Well when you know you're going to die anyway, it takes the pressure off you.

And haven't you revealed your other role yet? ;)

Inziladun

02-13-2010, 07:26 PM

And haven't you revealed your other role yet? ;)

You assume that I have one?

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 07:29 PM

You assume that I have one?
I don't know. Everyone probably does.

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 07:30 PM

Hey I forgot I have a church function tonight. I won't be gone too long past DL but please be good like you have been all game and cease the chatter when DL hits. Thanks so much, and I'll bring you Steve's narration as soon as I can. Later! :)

~~The Moddess~~

Nerwen

02-13-2010, 07:47 PM

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-13-2010, 07:49 PM

++Fea
++Zil
++Nerwen

Inziladun

02-13-2010, 07:55 PM

So whatever this mysterious end-game business is, it happens toMorrow, not toDay?

Or, it could be happening as we speak! :eek:

Rune Son of Bjarne

02-13-2010, 07:57 PM

maybe we will all get cake!

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 07:57 PM

Ok, well since nothing's going on I might as well go to sleep.

I'll just leave you with a bit of Thick as a Werewolf that I started working om but gave up:

See there! A man he stands - and we pronounce him fit to save.
He looks very innocent, and the first two votes, he will pave.
We'll keep him safe toDay turn him into Simon
Teach him to save the innocents, not to do what he wants.

[and later]

See there! A man he stands - and we pronounce him fit to lynch.
There's a load lifted from his shoulders with the discovery of this decis[ion].
We'll take the wolf in him put it to the test
Teach it to appear innocent, how to fool the rest.

So I leave you, village.

edit: x-ed since Sally

Inziladun

02-13-2010, 07:59 PM

maybe we will all get cake!

Well, cookies have been promised to some. I'd want Oreos, but that's just me.

x/d with Eönwë- May we now build a bridge out of you?

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 08:07 PM

Well, cookies have been promised to some. I'd want Oreos, but that's just me. I don't think Sally owns a bakery. She should, though.

x/d with Eönwë- May we now build a bridge out of you?
:eek:

For some reason I can't see that working... :rolleyes:

wilwarin538

02-13-2010, 08:09 PM

Well, I'm confused. If Eonwe is our last wolf then why is there going to be a Tomorrow??

Whatever, haha, I've gotten use to the confusion by now anyway...

++Nerwen

++Form

++Rune

Wanna be sure everyone, that Eonwe is actually the one with no votes. Don't want to all be voting for the same person and leave someone else with 0. Though I think now everyone has atleast 1. I'll go do a quick count.

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 08:12 PM

Well, I'm confused. If Eonwe is our last wolf then why is there going to be a Tomorrow??

Because I'm not the last wolf. Or I'm not a wolf at all. Or many other things. You'll just have to wait and see...

wilwarin538

02-13-2010, 08:14 PM

votey votes

Nerwen - 3
Inzil - 3
Wilwa - 1
Fea - 2
Izzy - 1
Form - 1
Rune - 1
Eonwe - 0

I believe that is everyone then.

Just finished watching the opening ceremonies to the Olympics that I had taped last night. Just have to say: Canada is the bestest. :D

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 08:16 PM

Someone vote for me. It'll be more fun. You know it's true.

Nerwen

02-13-2010, 08:17 PM

Maybe we're to have a contest of some kind for the ultimate winner (and cookie recipient).

I think Steve's hoping it'll be the one who does the most song parodies.

Inziladun

02-13-2010, 08:26 PM

Because I'm not the last wolf. Or I'm not a wolf at all. Or many other things. You'll just have to wait and see...

For me, logic has led to certain conclusions. If logic and known facts may not be relied upon, there's no point in trying to reckon anything else out. 'Wait and see' indeed.

Someone vote for me. It'll be more fun. You know it's true.

Don't think you have much hope there, mate. Even if I was inclined to pause because this does feel entirely too easy, I think nearly everyone's voted already. And you're down two points cos of SimonFea.

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 08:27 PM

And you're down two points cos of SimonFea.

Oh yeah. Forgot about that.

Inziladun

02-13-2010, 08:29 PM

++Wilwa

++Izzy

++Rune

Isabellkya

02-13-2010, 08:39 PM

It seems kind of too easy.
We still haven't seen the One Hit Wonder, no?

Inziladun

02-13-2010, 08:45 PM

It seems kind of too easy.
We still haven't seen the One Hit Wonder, no?

Sure we have. It's Wilwa!. No...wait..it's Form! No...Nerwen? All of the above, maybe?

Isabellkya

02-13-2010, 08:49 PM

Before I forget..

++Form
++Inziladun

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 08:49 PM

Sure we have. It's Wilwa!. No...wait..it's Form! No...Nerwen? All of the above, maybe?

It's me!

Inziladun

02-13-2010, 08:52 PM

It's me!

Could be! I won't say it's impossible at this stage. If so, and you're actually not a wolf, all I can say is que sara, sara.

Eönwë

02-13-2010, 09:00 PM

So it appears my time in this village is over.

Good Night village.

satansaloser2005

02-13-2010, 09:12 PM

Maybe we're to have a contest of some kind for the ultimate winner (and cookie recipient).

I think Steve's hoping it'll be the one who does the most song parodies.

Heh. Well he's dead so it won't be him, parodies or no.

Sure we have. It's Wilwa!. No...wait..it's Form! No...Nerwen? All of the above, maybe?

*just choked on her dinner*

Oh, DL of course. And of course Steve's a lady Killer. Which is to say he kills ladies, not that he's a killer who's a lady. At least as far as we know. :rolleyes:

satansaloser2005

02-14-2010, 09:47 PM

Sorry, kiddos; I was at a place with internet but my laptop died.

Form (an ordo) has been viciously slaughtered. Poor munchkin. :(

Well go on, get to talkin'! (Oh, and I'll have an announcement later.)

Isabellkya

02-14-2010, 09:54 PM

There is still a wolf, or something out there?

Inziladun

02-14-2010, 10:10 PM

Well, what to make of this?
I'd thought the wolves were all gone. We killed four original ones, and a Cursed one. What does that leave? A Bear?
All I can really say is that I don't think it's Fea because all signs point to her being a legitimate Seer, and a Seer that kills us along with the wolves would be extraordinary. And it isn't me. Sadly, Fea won't be much help with dreaming, I'm afraid. The rules say anyone dreamed by her who has a special role will appear as a regular ordo.
If I remember rightly, some others have made comments that hinted at some sort of special role, such as this:

...And indeed some of you will shortly be learning something new from me. But I think I'll wait a little while, to see what our moddess is up to now.

Or this:

Yes.
I am a Psychology Major. I like screwing with peoples' minds to gather information in the hopes of furthering my own personal understanding of human behaviour. That is all I have to say on the matter.

When asked to clarify, Wilwa said only

*nods*
Can't.

I would really hate to just make this a randomish lynch toDay, but I'm rather at a loss. Without knowing even the nature of what's after us now, it's pretty difficult to analyze things.

Nerwen

02-14-2010, 10:31 PM

Well, what to make of this?
I'd thought the wolves were all gone. We killed four original ones, and a Cursed one.

Plus, we have word-of-Mod on the subject:
You've caught all the wolves, but what now? *bats eyelashes*

If I remember rightly, some others have made comments that hinted at some sort of special role

Well, I don't have one involving eating people at Night, I can tell you that much.

I would really hate to just make this a randomish lynch toDay, but I'm rather at a loss. Without knowing even the nature of what's after us now, it's pretty difficult to analyze things.

I'll say. The best I can suggest is that we try and work out why Form in particular was the target. I suspect that will be a dead end, mind, but still– why didn't the mysterious killer attack you?