WW LLXVIII: Yar Har Har and a Bottle o' Rum

[Paranoia]

It's been awhile since anyone on the ship's seen land, no part thanks to the Cap'ns dreadful navigation skills, having misplaced the ship once on a beach. Three of you start a talkin' amongst yourselves. Talkin' about how a mutiny is needed.

Talk of plungin' the ol' cap'n into the briny.

Too bad the briny deep got to ye first. No sooner the three fishmen climb aboard and murder the scurvy dogs talking trechery, they stole their clothes and started masqueradin' as 'em. As if that'd fool a normal 'uman! O' course, the people on this ship tend to be plastered more 'n most so you might not notice it but hey cut a pirate a break! Drinkin' all the rum is hard work!

Meanwhile, Captain Paranoia fumbles about his pocket, looking for his oft misplaced keys. Cursin' something most foul (primarily about some dark sea deity or the other), he storms off in the opposite direction o' his cabin....

----Night Zero Continues until 1:00 PM CST!----

[Blind Guardian]

Arg! The Guardian of the Blind is here!

[Paranoia]

*Cap'n Paranoia thwaps BG* Get back ter sleep, ye' scurvy dog!

[Paranoia]

~~~Plum Incompetent~~~

As Cap'n Paranoia stumbles across the deck in his drunken stupor, he bumps into three figures. Recognizing them as his crew through his drunken stupor, he wraps his arms around the fishmen's, and starts dragging them off behind him, singing a good ol' ditty.

Before the fishmen could deal with this critical annoyance, and just kill the drunken old coot, he breaks off and dances off merrily to the other side o' the boat.

After puking up around several hours worth of booze hounding, the ol' Cap'n notices somethin' in the water as day breaks.

Blood.

Stirrin' up a ruckus, the cap'n starts hollering for the crew to assemble on deck.

Paranoia (NPC)
Zul
Nerwen
Blind Guardian
Rikae
Macalaure
Gilrdan
Wilwarin
Boromir
The Elf-warrior

Morsul the Dark
Shasta


The Dead.
Eönwë - Ordo - Death via Cannonball Day One
autume98 - Cultist - Throat punctured through Night One
Though mutinous dogs all, they all line up obediently as the dear ol' cap'n rants and raves about there bein' a murderer (or two. or three.) on board.

Except he does a head count, notices yer all there, and gets confused for a good hour before storming back into his quarters hootin' in hollerin' about not havin' enough booze and that the sun be playin' tricks on his eyes. Wild eyed, the last thing he tells you lot before slamming the door to the cabin and lockin' it is to sort the mess out yerselves and to make the culprits walk the plank. Or if that don't work on some preposterous fishman servant o' the kraken on board, t' make it work or walk thar plank yerself.

----DAY ONE HAS STARTED! GET TO IT, YE LAND LUBBERS!----

[Blind Guardian]

Ohi! Sorry. Wait it started. And I'm going to bed.

[Nerwen]

Arr! This be shapin' up fer to be nigh as rum a viyage as that one o' Black Death Brinn's!


So, Cap'n Paranoia be still among the livin'? I'd a reckoned them swabs o' fishmen would send he to Davy Jones afore ye could say "Shiver me timbers!"

[Nerwen]

It be main quiet aboard. Where be the rest o' the crew? Show a leg, ye scurvy dogs!

[Eönwë]

Yarr! I be awake as well! What ye be thinkin' Nerwen? How d' we catch one o' them fishmen? Or ha' the' cap'n 'ad too much of th' ol' rum?

[Nerwen]

Yarr! I be awake as well! What ye be thinkin' Nerwen? How d' we catch one o' them fishmen?

Arr, them dogs... fish... whate'er they be a'callin' of 'emselves... they'll not be able to fool us!

Fer- mark ye– how mote them fish be a-knowin' o' the ways o' brave gentlemen o'fortune? We must be a-tryin' fer to engage 'em in a bit o' conversation– an' by thunder! They'll give 'emselves away afore long!

Or ha' the' cap'n 'ad too much of th' ol' rum?

Nay, 'tis goin' dry as gives Cap'n th' horrors. He be shipshape along o' there be plenty o' rum in his belly. Rum be meat an' drink to he.

An' then, mark yon blood in the water. This ship ha' seen foul play, or I'm a landlubber!

[Eönwë]

Have y'ever been on th' land, Nerwen? Ye speak like ye were born a' sea!

An' ye were up early. Did ye see a sign o' th' fishmen when ye awake from yer rum-sleep in yer cabin? Or p'r'aps ye be one o' them. Arr! D'I see a bit o' barnacle on yer face, ye scurvy dog?

[Nerwen]

Have y'ever been on th' land, Nerwen? Ye speak like ye were born a' sea!
Aye, I were weaned on rum an' hard tack, ye lubber!

An' ye were up early. Did ye see a sign o' th' fishmen when ye awake from yer rum-sleep in yer cabin? Or p'r'aps ye be one o' them. Arr! D'I see a bit o' barnacle on yer face, ye scurvy dog?

Scurvy dog yerself, to be a-castin' of aspersions on a lady's complexion!

[Nerwen]

Happen, though, there be summat in yon "Rule o' Three".

By which I be a-signifyin' th' old seaman's yarn that when there be bloody murder done at sea (an' that be common as lice along o' we gentlemen o' fortune) one o' th' first three as pipes up will be one o' them as did the deed.

Aye, I reckon I'll be keepin' a weather eye on ye an' young Blind Guardian.

EDIT:typos.

[Inziladun]

So, Cap'n Paranoia be still among the livin'? I'd a reckoned them swabs o' fishmen would send he to Davy Jones afore ye could say "Shiver me timbers!"

Arr, I be thinkin' the same thing. Th' las' time I were on a ship w' mutineers that were th' first thing they did.

Aye, I reckon I'll be keepin' a weather eye on ye an' young Blind Guardian.

So, ye think that 'un be one to watch, do ye? Arr, ye all need a good weather eye on ye.

[Nerwen]

So, ye think that 'un be one to watch, do ye? Arr, ye all need a good weather eye on ye.

Belay that talk! Ye're another on' em, like enough.

[Rikae]

Rule o' three, eh? I reckon that means I can post now, an' odds are, I'm as human as the four of ye.
:p
'tis odd that Nerwen should be castin' suspicion on th' Guardian o' th' Blind, when it's this Eonwe fellow seems th' most false and tricksy o' the lot. It looks like 'e talks just so as he can say he did.
Thar be two more people who look e'en worse. First is Macalaure - me know that yon Likedeeler has been hangin' around and watchin', but hasn't bothard t' speak up, and e's creepy when e's quiet. I'd like to hear more from ye, Mac, an' the rest o' the crew as well.
The other is wifewife, for not knowin' a wife's duty is not t' bar her husband from piracy, but t' sign him up for it.

[Nerwen]

Rule o' three, eh? I reckon that means I can post now, an' odds are, I'm as human as the four of ye.
:p

Arr, says you!

'tis odd that Nerwen should be castin' suspicion on th' Guardian o' th' Blind, when it's this Eonwe fellow seems th' most false and tricksy o' the lot. It looks like 'e talks just so as he can say he did.

Nay, lass, I were a'suspicionin' o' the pair on 'em.

Thar be two more people who look e'en worse. First is Macalaure - me know that yon Likedeeler has been hangin' around and watchin', but hasn't bothard t' speak up, and e's creepy when e's quiet. I'd like to hear more from ye, Mac, an' the rest o' the crew as well.
The other is wifewife, for not knowin' a wife's duty is not t' bar her husband from piracy, but t' sign him up for it.

Aye, wifewife be a bad 'un. But belike she be too much on a landlubber fer this lay.

[Eönwë]

Aye, I reckon I'll be keepin' a weather eye on ye an' young Blind Guardian.

That Blind Guardian a bi' suspicious if ye ask me. 'e sleeps when 'e should be awakin'. Maybe 'e be tired from a night o' killin'. An' th' same goes fer t'others that're still asleep as well. They should all be wakin' by now.

Nay, 'tis goin' dry as gives Cap'n th' horrors.
But why is the rum gone?

[Nerwen]

That Blind Guardian a bi' suspicious if ye ask me. 'e sleeps when 'e should be awakin'. Maybe 'e be tired from a night o' killin'. An' th' same goes fer t'others that're still asleep as well. They should all be wakin' by now.


But why is the rum gone?

The rum? Gone? What scurvy dog be a'drainin' of the rum?!

...Arr, ye main near took the wind out o' my sails, ye swab. Ye're on a wrong tack, lad. I were a' sayin' Cap'n be brimful o'rum, so we can be a-trustin' his deadlights.

[autume98]

That Blind Guardian a bi' suspicious if ye ask me. 'e sleeps when 'e should be awakin'. Maybe 'e be tired from a night o' killin'. An' th' same goes fer t'others that're still asleep as well. They should all be wakin' by now.

I'm awake, I'm awake already. i jus' can't help tha' I love my sleep. ;)

But why is the rum gone?
What?! This is not good! I needs me rum!

edit: x-ed with Nerwen

[Glirdan]

An' th' same goes fer t'others that're still asleep as well. They should all be wakin' by now.

*Hiccup* Oi, ye scurvy dog!! *Hic* Some of us needs our beauty res so we don't look like ye in th' mornin'!!

*Hic* As for all this suspicion ye all be throwin 'bout. Methinks tis too early to tell much, but I seem to remember this here "Rule of Three" that th' little Ms. Nerwen seems to be prattling about. Me eyes be watchful on those three for sure as the hair on me feet, one will be a murderous dog....fish, whatever they may be. *Hiccup*

[Inziladun]

Belay that talk! Ye're another on' em, like enough.

Nay, I be no Fishman, tho' only my death'd prove it to ye, no doubt.

'tis odd that Nerwen should be castin' suspicion on th' Guardian o' th' Blind, when it's this Eonwe fellow seems th' most false and tricksy o' the lot. It looks like 'e talks just so as he can say he did.

That Blind Guardian a bi' suspicious if ye ask me. 'e sleeps when 'e should be awakin'. Maybe 'e be tired from a night o' killin'. An' th' same goes fer t'others that're still asleep as well. They should all be wakin' by now.

Arr, so Nerwen be suspectin' Blind Guardian, Rikae be thinkin' ill o' that Eönwë, and Eönwë hisself be agreein' w' Nerwen abou' Blind Guardian? Somethin' here cu'd be a might fishy, says I.

[Eönwë]

Arr, so Nerwen be suspectin' Blind Guardian, Rikae be thinkin' ill o' that Eönwë, and Eönwë hisself be agreein' w' Nerwen abou' Blind Guardian? Somethin' here cu'd be a might fishy, says I.

I be thinkin' that Blind Guardian goin' t' sleep in th' mornin' is fishy.

[Blind Guardian]

Ima here, Ima here 'n th' suspicions on me already. Darn finally an ordo. Vote me off on Day one! Nonesence! Ye liars! I say lynch th' lot 'f ya! 'm I th' only one that isn't drunk? Yea! Lynch all 'f ye, save the rest of us from horror! *pet the captins parrot*

[Blind Guardian]

I be thinkin' that Blind Guardian goin' t' sleep in th' mornin' is fishy.


But it's nighttime here in rl I have to sleep

[Rikae]

BG, if ye'r not drunk, I'm thinkin' that's a reason t' lynch yer! T'aint natural r' even 'uman, says I.

[Blind Guardian]

Aye then! *picks up bottle of rum, swallows in one gulp* Burp...

[wilwarin538]

ar, I be here mates. An' just viewed the magical movin' picture of the great Capt'n Jack Sparrow fer insipirations. ;)

I be havin some suspicions. Any 'ere who be drunk or drinkin' are suspect, fer not sharing the rum with meself.

[Eönwë]

I be havin some suspicions. Any 'ere who be drunk or drinkin' are suspect, fer not sharing the rum with meself.

*Hands Wilwa an empty bottl' o' rum*
All I got left.



So how'd'ye think we be a-catchin' these fishmen then? I be talkin' t'all o' ye.

[Blind Guardian]

O! The one that sails th' great ol' seas
Th' one that look for plun'er!
Crash 'em
bang 'em
smash 'em
take their golldddd!!!
O! The one that robs th' great ol' boat
Th' one that look for gooolllldddd!!!
Clash 'em
bash 'em
zap 'em

No, I am not drunk!


Yet.

[Blind Guardian]

Yar har har an' a bottle of rum!
It's a pirates life for me!
Yar har har an' a pot o' gold!
It's a bottle o' rum for me!
Yar har har it's time to go!
Let's sail th' seven seas!

Still not drunk. One bottle ain't gonna do it! But th' way matties, we're out o' beer.

[Glirdan]

Yar har me hearties, what are we doing standing here jabbering like a bunch of mud puppies when we gots murderous Fish on board??


Arr, so Nerwen be suspectin' Blind Guardian, Rikae be thinkin' ill o' that Eönwë, and Eönwë hisself be agreein' w' Nerwen abou' Blind Guardian? Somethin' here cu'd be a might fishy, says I.

I says that I is in agreement with this here landlubberin' mud pup. Sumtins not right with that there Eonwe. The way hes a splittin' his mind about the little lass Nerwen and that there Guardian o' the Blind feller has me thinking. What if he's a murderous scumbucket who's tryin' to stick w' th' person who bes making the most sense in his mind? Or p'rhap he be one our mateys who be all confuddled in that brain o' his. I be keeping my eye on him....would keep both, but I lost me other one in a fight with some sea critters.


Still not drunk. One bottle ain't gonna do it! But th' way matties, we're out o' beer

Well tha's no good matey!!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Arr, an' I'm one fer wantin' ter lynch the Cap'n fer gettin' the words wrong! T'ain't 'yar har har', nossir, tis more of'n a 'yo ho ho', or so me good pa once tole me.

Scurvy dogs! I needs me fruity drink, an' that's a true fact.

[Blind Guardian]

Arr, an' I'm one fer wantin' ter lynch the Cap'n fer gettin' the words wrong! T'ain't 'yar har har', nossir, tis more of'n a 'yo ho ho', or so me good pa once tole me.

Scurvy dogs! I needs me fruity drink, an' that's a true fact.


Yo ho ho and a barrel o' rum
yo ho ho an' a kick in the bum
yo ho ho we're all out o' rum
yo ho ho down th' barrel o' a gun!

Boy, this is a great day to sing!

[wilwarin538]

Arr, I don be fancying the was the lass Nerwen brought ups the 'Rule o' Three', since it be not a meritable reason for suspicion, and since it includes 'erself it mayhaps be a way for the lass to try and seem shinnier.

I also don appreciate singin' at a time like this. Our lives be in danger, and this here Guardian o' the Blind is singing and seeming rather joyful. Perhaps it be his way to be about, while not actually sayin anythin' of any use?

My best mate Glirdy is agreein' with people. He tends to agree with people when he has somethin' sinister to mask. Though, him and I be often incorrect in our assumptions of one another, it still makes me uneased.

Arr, me computer be havin`some difficulties, and it be the only one I got. If my absence extends past sunset, my apologies.


(gah, I'm so bad at pirate talk, it's not even funny :rolleyes: )

[Macalaure]

*is here and waiting for the pirate talk to end so that he can understand what people are actually saying*

[Inziladun]

I be thinkin' that Blind Guardian goin' t' sleep in th' mornin' is fishy.

Looked a might dodgy there, w' your jumpin' on what Nerwen was sayin', it did. Nerwen's suspicion itself weren't all that fair lookin', aye, but your reaction looked fouler.

Arr, an' I'm one fer wantin' ter lynch the Cap'n fer gettin' the words wrong! T'ain't 'yar har har', nossir, tis more of'n a 'yo ho ho', or so me good pa once tole me.

Talkin' o stringin' up the cap'n! If that ain't mutinous, what be? ;)

*is here and waiting for the pirate talk to end so that he can understand what people are actually saying*

What be ye sayin'? I'm not hearin' ye plain. :p

[Macalaure]

Alright, now who do we have here so far?

Haven't played with Blind Guardian before, so I won't vote for him/her(?) the first few days unless I have to. Just chatter and singing so far, though.

I'm not going to even try to figure Nerwen out at this point. I never know what she's up to and when I think I do I'm usually wrong.

Eonwe, like BG, is incomprehensible and chatty. He has the disadvantage of having played with me before, unfortunately. ;)

I always end up wanting to lynch Inzil, so until I'm really, seriously and unbearably suspicious of him (which is probably tomorrow :rolleyes: ), he'll get a pass.

I can't read Rikae, so I won't try. :p

Autume is awake and in need of rum. That is good to know.

As for all this suspicion ye all be throwin 'bout. Methinks tis too early to tell much"All this suspicion"?? There's barely any and you're trying to discourage people? Not good. I wish I could understand his point against Eonwe. I agree with Wilwa, though - the tone is fishy.

Shasta is alive, which is always a good thing to be for a pirate.

Wilwa talks like a real person and makes sense. I greatly approve of that.

Boro, Elf-warrior, and Morsul are still asleep.

[Blind Guardian]

Hullo again!

Ima going to be leaving soon. Our ac isn't working right. I might not be back before we leave but then again this is me we are talking about. When I come back I'll torment you with more songs! When does Day end? 1pm again?

Sayonara!

[Eönwë]

I says that I is in agreement with this here landlubberin' mud pup. Sumtins not right with that there Eonwe. The way hes a splittin' his mind about the little lass Nerwen and that there Guardian o' the Blind feller has me thinking.

Shiver me timbers, matey! What else should I be doin'? We be needin' t' catch them fishmen, it's not safe t' trust any of ye scallywags!

[Blind Guardian]

I blame you!

Compleatly innocent for once:
Guardian of the Blind

Innocent until proven guilty:
Eönwë
Nerwen
Grildan
Rikae
Elf warior
Iziladûn
Morsul
Mac
Boro
Shasta
Wilwa

guilty:
Noia :P

did I miss anyone?

[Rikae]

Well, I was actually semi-serious about Eonwe - his posts do seem forced, and they aren't getting less so. At th' same time, Glirdan's suspicion doesn't really make sense or at least isn't explained well, and could be a fish's way o' bandwagoning on th' closest thing to a suspicion that's been voiced so far.
I'm opposed to lynching Blind Guardian toDay on principle, but her(?) singing be soon to become annoying enough to make me reconsider. Put a sock in it!

[wilwarin538]

Back again.

Still not too much going on then? For 17.5 hours that's kind of dissapointing, especially since I have to vote in about 2.5 hours. (going to sleep early since I work early).

At this point, if I had to vote, I would have no idea who to vote for. So all I ask is that someone please do something suspicious in the next 2.5ish hours. kthnxbai.

BG's list bugs me about as much as his songs do. Glirdan looks crazy suspicious, but hey, he kind of always does to me. Nerwen's 'rule of 3' thing was odd, but I guess it was something to say and kind of a Day 1 tradition. I appreciate Mac talking normal. And this made me giggle:

The other is wifewife, for not knowin' a wife's duty is not t' bar her husband from piracy, but t' sign him up for it.

:D

Otherwise I have no real opinions on anyone else at the moment.


I have a jar of dirt! I have a jar of dirt! And guess what's inside it?

x'ed with Rikae

[Eönwë]

Looked a might dodgy there, w' your jumpin' on what Nerwen was sayin', it did. Nerwen's suspicion itself weren't all that fair lookin', aye, but your reaction looked fouler.
Jumpin' eh?
When I was jus' gettin annoyed that none o' ye were wakin' up yet, usin' Blind Guardian as an example? It makes sense that fishmen be sleepin' in th' day if they be killin' in th'night. An' Blindbeard was awake in th' early mornin', which i' jus' more suspicious. seems li'e ye jus' wanna be suspicious o' somethin' an' ye picked me.

But ev'n more worryin' i' tha' scallywag Glirdan. Straight away 'e be agreein' abou' th' Rule o' Three or whatever it be call'd. An afore ye even started wi' clear suspicion in me direction, Glirdan joins in. Ye sure yer no' both fishmen?

[Eönwë]

Well, I was actually semi-serious about Eonwe - his posts do seem forced, and they aren't getting less so.

So you expect me to find it natural to speak about pirate topics and in the right dialect?



edit: double post by me. A bad sign. It be meanin' the ye be too quiet when ye shoud be talkin'.

[Inziladun]

Haven't played with Blind Guardian before, so I won't vote for him/her(?) the first few days unless I have to. Just chatter and singing so far, though.

Th' Blind 'un' be a she.

I always end up wanting to lynch Inzil, so until I'm really, seriously and unbearably suspicious of him (which is probably tomorrow :rolleyes: ), he'll get a pass.

Yar. Indeed th' feelin' be mutual. Bu' I dun't see why ye sh'ud walk th' plank toDay. ;)

Wilwa talks like a real person and makes sense. I greatly approve of that.

I see th' sense o' keepin' up w' th' seafarin' talk fer Day 1, but ToMorrer cu'd be a diff'rent story.

Ima going to be leaving soon. Our ac isn't working right. I might not be back before we leave but then again this is me we are talking about. When I come back I'll torment you with more songs! When does Day end? 1pm again?

1 AM, I believe, be the DL.

I appreciate Mac talking normal.

Appreciate one another, do ye? Fer th' same reason? Hmm. Would that mean somethin'? P'raps not. Still...

I have a jar of dirt! I have a jar of dirt! And guess what's inside it?

What be inside it? :eek:

x/d with Eönwë twice

[Inziladun]

Jumpin' eh?
When I was jus' gettin annoyed that none o' ye were wakin' up yet, usin' Blind Guardian as an example? It makes sense that fishmen be sleepin' in th' day if they be killin' in th'night. An' Blindbeard was awake in th' early mornin', which i' jus' more suspicious. seems li'e ye jus' wanna be suspicious o' somethin' an' ye picked me.

Like I was sayin', it were more th' fact that ye looked like ye were pickin' up where Nerwen left off, tryin' to get sommat started agin' BG. I've not got th' faintest clue if BG be fishy, but it looked like a weak charge agin' 'er.

But ev'n more worryin' i' tha' scallywag Glirdan. Straight away 'e be agreein' abou' th' Rule o' Three or whatever it be call'd. An afore ye even started wi' clear suspicion in me direction, Glirdan joins in. Ye sure yer no' both fishmen?

Now that did get me notice, as well. He did allow as ye cu'd just be addled, an' no Fishman, though.

[Eönwë]

I have a jar of dirt! I have a jar of dirt! And guess what's inside it?
Can we use it to get ol' Davy Jones to call back the fishmen?


edit: x-ed wi' Inzil's last post.

[Eönwë]

He did allow as ye cu'd just be addled, an' no Fishman, though.

We all be more'n a bit addled from th' cap'n's rum, so tha's not so comfortin'.

[Eönwë]

Arr!

Since I was gettin' up at th'early hour, I be gettin' tired an' be goin' t' me cabin.

I be a-thinkin' that Glirdan be the mos' suspicious out o' th' lot o' ye, so 'e'll be gettin' my vote.

So far, e's jus' been latchin' on t' what's been said, an' twistin' it in 'is own way.

None o' ye seem completely fishy, but out o' ye, Fishdan be seemin' th' worst, an' th' mos' likely t' be workin' agains' us.


++Glirdan

[wilwarin538]

Appreciate one another, do ye? Fer th' same reason? Hmm. Would that mean somethin'? P'raps not. Still...


What be inside it? :eek:


1: I'll appreciate everyone who talks proper, pirate talk is amusing and all but it takes longer to read and to type, and I think it can easily be used to hide unhelpfullness.

2: My jar of dirt? Well, it's hiding a key of course, to a hidden chest that holds a map that leads to a secret island where there's a burried treasure......and rum. ;)

So I have 40 more minutes, and I really hope I can produce a fairly logical vote at the end of it, though there really isn't *that* much to go on. I hate Day 1s.

x'ed with Eonwe

[autume98]

I'm back, and I found me some rum! :)

I have to go through the posts and post me thoughts. I'll be back me hearties! Arrrr!

Edit: x-ed with Wilwa

[wilwarin538]

Ok. So really not much to go on, but I have to sleep now cause I'm getting up really early.

I'm going to vote for

++Eonwe

He seems really defensive over fairly small comments. For example:


I says that I is in agreement with this here landlubberin' mud pup. Sumtins not right with that there Eonwe. The way hes a splittin' his mind about the little lass Nerwen and that there Guardian o' the Blind feller has me thinking.

Shiver me timbers, matey! What else should I be doin'? We be needin' t' catch them fishmen, it's not safe t' trust any of ye scallywags!



Looked a might dodgy there, w' your jumpin' on what Nerwen was sayin', it did. Nerwen's suspicion itself weren't all that fair lookin', aye, but your reaction looked fouler.

Jumpin' eh?
When I was jus' gettin annoyed that none o' ye were wakin' up yet, usin' Blind Guardian as an example? It makes sense that fishmen be sleepin' in th' day if they be killin' in th'night. An' Blindbeard was awake in th' early mornin', which i' jus' more suspicious. seems li'e ye jus' wanna be suspicious o' somethin' an' ye picked me.



Well, I was actually semi-serious about Eonwe - his posts do seem forced, and they aren't getting less so.

So you expect me to find it natural to speak about pirate topics and in the right dialect?


All of those just seem unnecessarily defensive to me. So that's the best I got. Sorry I can't stay up any later.

[autume98]

At th' same time, Glirdan's suspicion doesn't really make sense or at least isn't explained well, and could be a fish's way o' bandwagoning on th' closest thing to a suspicion that's been voiced so far.


I'm just as confused by this. I didn't really see an explanation for why suspicion was cast onto Glirdan.

Here's my list for now. Obviously anything is subject to change.

Innocent:
Zil - so far I haven't seen anything that makes me suspicious of him
Nerwen - ditto
BG - I think that she was just being excited about the game. I could be wrong though. For now she is innocent though.
Rikae - I haven't seen anything that jumps out at me. Some have mentioned her bringing up the pack o' three. But not sure that this qualifies as suspicious. Maybe it's those people that are making a bigger deal out of this that are suspicious.
Mac - Same as Zil and Nerwen
Shasta - Same as Zil and Nerwen and Mac
Tum - Well obviously I'd find myself innocent. :Merisu:

Slightly suspicious:
Wilwa - mentions finds Glirdan slightly suspicious. Reason: He tends to agree with people when he has somethin' sinister to mask. Though, him and I be often incorrect in our assumptions of one another, it still makes me uneased.
Eonwe - Seemed to jump on BG pretty quickly

Haven't seen yet:
Boro
Morsul

Edit: x-ed with Wilwa

[Morsul the Dark]

Well now... Apparently I didn't realise today was a day phase I was sure it was Night... Well... I hates tto do this but I hadn't planned on checking the downs today so I've only got a minute.

++Nerwen

Based on She's posted the most and With her Piratey talk confused me...(Me, confused... Shocker!;))

[Macalaure]

I raise my eyebrow in BG's general direction for obstinate unhelpfulness.

I don't particularly like how Eonwe jumps on the first person to attract some suspicion. Sure, he had to vote early and had little to go on, but it seems like he is trying to find an excuse to vote somebody instead of attempting to find out who is actually evil. And having little to work with is not an excuse for not trying and picking the first best thing. Wilwa also has a good point about his defensiveness.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Arr, matey. This pirate went and got himself some education!

So anyway, here's what I'm thinking right now. I want to vote Morsul as per usual because his one post irritates me a bit, but I think that's probably knee-jerk. Eonwe is possible too but I need to go back and look at him a bit. Nerwen is fine with me for today, as are Rikae and Mac. BG is generally unhelpful - I don't really think it's a tell either way. My gut says that Zil is bad news but again, nothing to back that up. Wilwa seems sensible and I don't know about Glirdan. If I missed someone, they're under my radar.

[Rikae]

Eonwe, I don't think pirate lingo comes any more naturally to the rest of us. I could be wrong, though.
Eonwe is defensive, but I'm not sure it's a sign of fishiness. People seem a bit too quick to jump on him, too, which makes me wary. Glirdan has been latching on to what people say, and it's odd that Mac should suspect the latter on grounds that apply more to the former. Wilwa seems to be admitting the desire to fabricate a vote here:
I really hope I can produce a fairly logical vote
but that may just be an unfortunate choice of words. I'm going to have to vote early toDay myself, and the discussion toDay has really not been helpful in wolf-hunting at all. BG and now Morsul are being especially pointless and I'm tempted to emulate Nog and lynch the least helpful. I'm the most suspicious of Glirdan and Eonwe, but it doesn't seem likely I'll hear enough to make an informed choice between them, and I doubt they're both evil. Bah.

[autume98]

Doesn't seem like much has happened since I last posted. Although Morsul did come and post a vote. His post wasn't very helpful.

Overall I don't see anything that is helpful in me making my decision on who to vote yet. I do agree with Rikae here:
BG and now Morsul are being especially pointless and I'm tempted to emulate Nog and lynch the least helpful. I'm the most suspicious of Glirdan and Eonwe, but it doesn't seem likely I'll hear enough to make an informed choice between them, and I doubt they're both evil. Bah.

[Rikae]

I have to vote now, and though I find Glirdy and Steve fishy, I don't feel like I have enough evidence to feel right about lynching either of them on Day 1, since Eonwe posts quite a bit in a (so far) awfully quiet game and I think it's been a while since Glirdan played...
So I'm just going to vote

++Morsul

Because if you're going to make a random vote, make a random vote, but explaining your vote in a way that seems to apply to another person (it seems as though he thinks he's voting for Blind Guardian)? Such laziness deserves a reprimand.

[Inziladun]

Givin' the sailor talk the 'ol heave-ho, are we?


I be a-thinkin' that Glirdan be the mos' suspicious out o' th' lot o' ye, so 'e'll be gettin' my vote.

So far, e's jus' been latchin' on t' what's been said, an' twistin' it in 'is own way.

None o' ye seem completely fishy, but out o' ye, Fishdan be seemin' th' worst, an' th' mos' likely t' be workin' agains' us.


++Glirdan

Forgot to highlight, me thinks. Let's see. What exactly did Glirdan say?

I says that I is in agreement with this here landlubberin' mud pup. Sumtins not right with that there Eonwe. The way hes a splittin' his mind about the little lass Nerwen and that there Guardian o' the Blind feller has me thinking. What if he's a murderous scumbucket who's tryin' to stick w' th' person who bes making the most sense in his mind? Or p'rhap he be one our mateys who be all confuddled in that brain o' his. I be keeping my eye on him....would keep both, but I lost me other one in a fight with some sea critters.


Hmm. Not putting any serious suspicion toward Eönwë. At least it didn't seem that way to me. Eönwë's reactions to that indeed seem overblown.

Well now... Apparently I didn't realise today was a day phase I was sure it was Night... Well... I hates tto do this but I hadn't planned on checking the downs today so I've only got a minute.

++Nerwen[/B]

Based on She's posted the most and With her Piratey talk confused me...(Me, confused... Shocker!;))

Not the best of reasons, there, obviously. A convenient way of sneaking in a vote you know won't be followed up?

Can't make it til DL, so I need to vote very soon.

x/d with Rikae

[Inziladun]

I don't guess I'll vote Morsul ToDay.

Eönwë's edginess gives him the worst cast. I also recall the way he kept saying things to the effect of "How do we get the Fishmen?" "Let's talk about how to get the Fishmen." I tend to see that as a sign of evil intent.

++Eönwë

[Blind Guardian]

Wo! Lots has happened since I left!

Inziladûn->Eönwë
Wilwa->Eönwë
Rikae->Morsul
Morsul->Nerwen
Eönwë->Glidran

let's see what happens!

[Blind Guardian]

I just realized I might make it to Day two!! Wahoo!!!

[autume98]

I'm going to have to vote soon as well. Not sure that this is turning out to be very productive.

[Blind Guardian]

1Am forum time?!?! That's 11 here! Woo...this is weird. I should start looking for someone to vote for -_-

[Paranoia]

Thank you BG for the vote count.

On a related note: One hour and Fifty-One minutes until votes are due. If you haven't voted, start getting them up!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I think Eonwe's getting a little too much suspicion at the moment. Could be wolf-on-wolf done too well, or there could be wolvery behind it. I don't think I'll be voting him. Nerwen and Glirdan seem okay to me, so really, my only other option is -

++Morsul

[Macalaure]

Process of elimination.

Not going to vote:
Inzil, Nerwen, Rikae, for reasons stated before, BG, because it's my first game with her, Wilwa, since she's the only one I feel innocent right now, Boro and Elf-warrior, since they're not with us toDay.

See no reason to vote:
Shasta - he seems fine with me so far.

Slightly uneasy, but not going to vote:
Autume - I can't put my finger on it, but that's certainly not enough to make me vote for her.

this leaves:
Eonwe - most likely my vote right now. The evidence against him has quite piled up. But he didn't get the opportunity to respond to most of it, and I'm afraid we're fueling an ill-advised bandwaggon with no chance of stopping it, and with little evidence resulting from it toMorrow.
Glirdan - I seem to be the only one left suspecting him, which makes a successful lynch unlikely. Worse, Eonwe's jump on him makes it unlikely they're both fishmen, so as long as I'm more suspicious of Eonwe (despite all concerns), I should logically not vote for Glirdan.
Morsul - a bad vote that deserves a lynch. I don't have a good feeling about the success of a shot in the dark with him, though.

[autume98]

I really don't feel like putting in another vote for Eonwe and making that a bandwagon. Unless you call two votes a bandwagon in which case I don't feel comfortable jumping on that bandwagon.

I'm really not comfortable with what Morsul did, and I have no problem voting for him. Since I need to put my vote in:

++Morsul

[Macalaure]

Soo.. giving Eonwe a third vote is joining/creating a bandwaggon and giving Morsul a third vote isn't?

Eonwe -> Glidran
Morsul -> Nerwen
Rikae -> Morsul
Wilwa -> Eonwe
Inzil -> Eonwe(2)
Shasta -> Morsul(2)
Autume -> Morsul(3)

[Nerwen]

Arr, me hearties, I be not knowin' who fer to make walk the plank!

Belike I could givin' yon Morsul the business end o' me trusty cutlass, on account o' his suspicinin' o' me fer talkin' in the right proper way o' an honest buccaneer! What kind o' gentlemen o'fortune be he?

...Only, I ha' shipped with he afore, an he be always a suspectin' shipmates fer nothin'. 'Tis but his way, I reckon.

EDIT:X'd with Mac, autume, and Mac again.

[autume98]

Soo.. giving Eonwe a third vote is joining/creating a bandwaggon and giving Morsul a third vote isn't?

Eonwe -> Glidran
Morsul -> Nerwen
Rikae -> Morsul
Wilwa -> Eonwe
Inzil -> Eonwe(2)
Shasta -> Morsul(2)
Autume -> Morsul(3)

I didn't say it wasn't. I just didn't feel comfortable voting for Eonwe at this point. However I had no problem voting for Morsul after his vote.

[Blind Guardian]

I have a bad feeling about this but...
++Morsul

For the above stated reasons. Tired...

[Nerwen]

Arr...

Morsul's vote be scuvy, 'tis for sure, but

++Eonwe

be actin' more like as he have summat to hide.

'Tis the best I can do, shipmates.

[Blind Guardian]

Eonwe -> Glidran
Morsul -> Nerwen
Rikae -> Morsul
Wilwa -> Eonwe
Inzil -> Eonwe(2)
Shasta -> Morsul(2)
Autume -> Morsul(3)
Nerwen->Eönwë (3)
BeiGei->Morsul (4)

[Macalaure]

Two sensible Eonwe-votes by Wilwa and Inzil (edit: and a not-so-much reasoned vote by Nerwen) against

a reasonable enough vote by Rikae, but then
I think Eonwe's getting a little too much suspicion at the moment.I really don't feel like putting in another vote for Eonwe and making that a bandwagon.I have a bad feeling about this but...


The reasons given for Morsul-votes deserve some examination toMorrow. There's something mighty fishy going on.

I will now go with

++Eonwe,

of course.

[The Elf-warrior]

I think the rule of three thing is no good. The odds of the first three being wolves is the same as any other group of three sailors. Personally, I find it suspicious a seasoned sea salt such as Nerwen would give that old fish tale any credibility. However, I have a bad feeling about Rikae's post #15. That smilied first sentence raises my internal warning bell. Yes, it could just be an innocent joke. But that isn't what my gut says. Gonna to review the thread afore I vote, but Rikae, I accuse you.

[Glirdan]

Okay, so just got in (quite literally) five minutes ago, doing some catching up now. How much longer until DL, like twenty minutes?? Sheez...Well, I shall be back ASAP with a vote.

[Blind Guardian]

Eonwe -> Glidran
Morsul -> Nerwen
Rikae -> Morsul
Wilwa -> Eonwe
Inzil -> Eonwe(2)
Nerwen->Eönwë(3)
mac->Eönwë(4)
Shasta -> Morsul(2)
Autume -> Morsul(3)
BeiGei->Morsul (4)

And possable Rikae

[The Elf-warrior]

I've done a little thinking on the rule of three thing. With twelve sailors, the odds of one of the first three to speak up being a fishman is one in four. The same odds also apply for the other three groups of three, but I no longer think it suspicious of Nerwen for bringing it up. Looking at the first three is convenient and traditional, and it is day one. Although one foul creature has brought it up in the past that me memory shows me.

[Glirdan]

Jumpin' eh?
When I was jus' gettin annoyed that none o' ye were wakin' up yet, usin' Blind Guardian as an example? It makes sense that fishmen be sleepin' in th' day if they be killin' in th'night. An' Blindbeard was awake in th' early mornin', which i' jus' more suspicious. seems li'e ye jus' wanna be suspicious o' somethin' an' ye picked me.


So you expect me to find it natural to speak about pirate topics and in the right dialect?

These two posts seem overly defensive to me...yet it doesn't scream Fishman.

Shasta has been unusually quiet (although I am one to talk) and there's been no word from Boro.

Wilwa always seems a little suspicious to me, so for that reason I'm not going to vote her toDay because my suspicions are usually wrong. :rolleyes:

Zil, Mac and Rikae are the only ones that have been making any sense toDay and have been putting in their own, well thought out insights.

Morsul's vote jumps out at me though. He comes on for the one post and votes "randomly" yet gives an explanation to his random vote? Yet, I have seen him do this in the past so I may give him the benefit of the doubt.

Gah!! This is difficult!

[Nerwen]

Me hearties, I reckoned I'd had to go belowdecks afore this, but now it seems I ha' a mite more time.

So, a little more explanation fer me votin' of Eonwe: the lad be main jumpy when poked at, an' be puttin' me in mind o' the thrashing o' a fish out o' water.

'Tis a fair weak suspicion, to be sure, but 'tis early days.

An' then, I be not entire easy wi' yon Morsul-voters, even if the dog did vote me. It be puttin' me in mind o' a rescue party, that it be.

EDIT:X'd with a host; pirate grammar.

[Paranoia]

Twenty seven minutes.

Tick tock tick tock.

[Glirdan]

Oh thank Eru I have more time than I thought!! :D

[Nerwen]

I've done a little thinking on the rule of three thing. With twelve sailors, the odds of one of the first three to speak up being a fishman is one in four.

Nay, 'tis more'n't' than that, lad. Them fish be main excited at break o' day.

[Eönwë]

Just woke up early to see I'm in joint first place with the vote count. Wow. Apparently replying to accusations is evil (according to Wilwa (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=633125&postcount=52)); as is jokingly suggesting that someone is a fishman (or woman, in this case) because they're asleep at the wrong times (autume (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=633125&postcount=53)and others).

edit: fixed link. no x-post, which is scary because it means a lot will happen in these last minutes.

[Glirdan]

So, quick list

Innocent
Glirdy

Leaning towards innocent
Mac
Rikae
Zil

Unsure
Wilwa
Shasta
Nerwen
BG
Elf Warrior
Autum

Find Slightly Suspicous
Morsul
Eonwe

Between the two that I find Slightly suspicious...

I'm going to go with my gut this time and vote for

++Eonwe

Between him and Morsul, my gut is telling me to vote for him. He's been overly defensive about some of the smallest things and just seems the fishier out of the two. I've seen Morsul pull this one post and vote thing before and it usually turns out that he's innocent.

[The Elf-warrior]

Well, I don't think Morsul is suspicious, but I think Eönwë is somewhat suspicious. The thing about fish bein' still awake after a night of killing seems to me to be an unjustified application of the game mechanics to real life.

++Eönwë

[Eönwë]

Well, I don't think Morsul is suspicious, but I think Eönwë is somewhat suspicious. The thing about fish bein' still awake after a night of killing seems to me to be an unjustified application of the game mechanics to real life.

And how is that? If someone kills at night, they'll be tired in the morning.

[Eönwë]

Well, being the one with the most votes is worrying, but I don't think everyone's looking carefully enough.

Blind Guardian has the most posts on this thread and yet hasn't really said anything of substance, sticking to pointless lists (with the Mod being guilty) and endless vote counts). Which all seems a bit too like she's just wanting to please. While before my suspicion was jokin, as I said, I'm not so sure now.

Zil, though his logic looks sound, looks like he's particularly trying to get me killed as well.

Wacth out for them.

[Eönwë]

Also, Nerwen's probably innocent, even though she voted me.

edit: *dies*

[Paranoia]

And that's deadline. Gifted, Fishmen, and Cultist, start sending in your night choices. Narration'll be up soon; Eönwë was an ordo.

[Blind Guardian]

Blind Guardian has the most posts on this thread and yet hasn't really said anything of substance, sticking to pointless lists (with the Mod being guilty) and endless vote counts). Which all seems a bit too like she's just wanting to please. While before my suspicion was jokin, as I said, I'm not so sure now.

Wacth out for them.


Really? I have the most count? I'm just an overposter. See my last two games. I know both times it got me killed but I can't help it! Besides, the songs got annoying to some so I stopped. On the vote counts...I got nothing. You're right way to much. I'll try to stop.

Edit: whoops. Okay that was an accident. I won't do it again!

[Paranoia]

----Daybreak----

Sitting back in his cabin, cap'n Paranoia sits back and ponders the events of yesterday.

Eönwë had the been booted off the ship to put it nicely. To put it not so nicely, Eönwë had everyone's swords drawn on him as he explained himself. One second Nerwen shouts for him to walk the plank... the next second Blind Guardian speaks up.


"But mateys what if he's a fishman? Don't those spawn o' the kraken swim in the briny the same way a rock sinks?"

Everyone looks around and Eönwë nods in agreement, obviously trying to use anything to talk his agressors down.

"Arr, lass. T'wont accomplish anything but keelhaul a loyal member of the cap'ns crew!"

They all have a good laugh at this before Autume wheels up a cannon. "Well, methinks I has a way around all this I do!" What then transpires is an event best left to the imagination. If by Left you mean cannonball, and by imagination you mean gut. Shasta gently pokes at the rather bloody corpse floating in the water trying to elicit a change from it. It obstinately refuses to change into one of the fishmen.

Eönwë - Ordo, canonballed day one.

Come the night, not a whole lot got accomplished.

Autume found herself in the brig for usin' one o' the cap'ns favored antique cannons. After bein' fired that morning, it had crumbled to dust, sending several thousand doubloons worth of antiquity and upkeep down the chamber pot.

This suited Autume just fine. All the better a place to practice her strange little religion in private.

It also made for a fine place for the fishmen to ambush someone privately.

Meditating fastly, so lost in thought Autume didn't even respond to their presence until one of the fishmen's nails pierced her throat.

The last words she gurgled out before bleeding out on the brig floor was "Hail friends."

The fishman stand around the Cultist's corpse, observing a moment of mourning until Daybreak for the loyal minion that they had accidentally felled by their own hands.

Autume - The Cultist - Neck pierced fatally night one.

The Living
Paranoia (NPC)
Zul
Nerwen
Blind Guardian
Rikae
Macalaure
Gilrdan
Wilwarin
Boromir
The Elf-warrior
Morsul the Dark
Shasta


Those sent to Davy Jone's Locker.
Eönwë - Ordo - Death via Cannonball Day One
autume98 - Cultist - Throat punctured through Night One

[The Elf-warrior]

Well, that was interesting. Seems like aligning oneself with foul creatures is not a good way to stay alive. I'm sorry about sealing Eönwë's fate. Here is my analysis (more of a summary, actually) of Inziladun. Why him? I haven't got a good read on him yet and he was the first on Paranoia's list of players.

Zul: Post #13 IC talk. Says keep an eye on everyone. Post #21 Zul quotes Rikae quoting Nerwen saying that Blind Guardian is suspicious. He also quotes Eönwë as saying that he's suspicious of Blind Guardian. He summarizes who suspects who. I think he is a bit inaccurate. Nay, lass, I were a'suspicionin' o' the pair on 'em. Post #36 Finds Eönwë's reaction to Nerwen's suspicion more suspicious than her suspicion. Responds to Shasta and Macalaure remarks with jokes. Post #45 Zul responds to various personages. He wants to wait on any vote for Mac. Is a tad suspicious of Wilwa for appreciating Mac talking normal. Post #46 Responds to Eönwë. He says that Eönwë's charge against BG is weak and that Glirdan had also come to his notice, but he also notes that Glirdan said that Eönwë might just be addled. Post #60 Says Eönwë seems to be overreacting to Glirdan's statement. Questions Morsul's vote. Post #61 Votes for Eönwë as the more suspicious one.

After this review, I sense a slight odor of fish. Maybe it's just the effect of zeroing in on one person. I need to go to bed, but I'll be back.

[Morsul the Dark]

Hmm... I don't like Nerwen Defendin' me, She knows I'm prone to vote somewhere else when she fills my sails with flattery! My piratey talk stinks:rolleyes:

Also The Eonwe Wagon seemed wrong. I understand the one for me. But Eonwe from rereading wasn't that suspicious.

So when I have time I'll really look into her voters! for now, Off to Boston!...

Oh An' Captain I'd be much Obliged if you put up a Living Dead List Thank Ye.

[wilwarin538]

Okee. So yesterday sucked, though Day 1 bandwagons usually do.

Shall we look at votes? Yes we shall.

Eonwe -> Glidran
Morsul -> Nerwen
Rikae -> Morsul
Wilwa -> Eonwe
Inzil -> Eonwe(2)
Nerwen->Eönwë(3)
Mac->Eönwë(4)
Shasta -> Morsul(2)
Autume -> Morsul(3)
BeiGei->Morsul (4)
Glirdan -> Eonwe (5)
Elf-Warrior -> Eonwe (6)

If Morsul is guilty, then Glirdan likely is too, since he was the one who saved him there. So basically everyone who voted after me voted for someone who had votes already, Inzil doesn't look bad for it, Nerwen kind of. Mac kind of does though (in my opinion more then 3 votes for the same person in a row is a bad sign). Shasta looks really good, he split up the votes, which is nice, and if Morsul is guilty Shasta probably isn't. BeiGei's vote is interesting, since it made the tie, she's likely innocent if Morsul is guilty. Elf-Warrior's vote is kind of bad too.

Basically I don't like the way that looks. Everyone was copying each other's vote, and it just doesn't look nice. Right now, based on votes alone, Mac's, Glirdan's and Elf-Warrior's votes look the worse.

Well, now I have to go. It's my mom's birthday and the family is going out for breakfast. We have a lot planned today, but I'll try my hardest to get on as much as possible.

[Inziladun]

Zul: Post #13 IC talk. Says keep an eye on everyone. Post #21 Zul quotes Rikae quoting Nerwen saying that Blind Guardian is suspicious. He also quotes Eönwë as saying that he's suspicious of Blind Guardian. He summarizes who suspects who. I think he is a bit inaccurate.

Inaccurate, eh? Here's what those three said:

Aye, I reckon I'll be keepin' a weather eye on ye an' young Blind Guardian.

'tis odd that Nerwen should be castin' suspicion on th' Guardian o' th' Blind, when it's this Eonwe fellow seems th' most false and tricksy o' the lot. It looks like 'e talks just so as he can say he did.

That Blind Guardian a bi' suspicious if ye ask me. 'e sleeps when 'e should be awakin'. Maybe 'e be tired from a night o' killin'. An' th' same goes fer t'others that're still asleep as well. They should all be wakin' by now.

Obviously Eönwë was innocent, but at the time all that did look odd.

And as you noted, you voted for Eönwë yourself.

Well, I don't think Morsul is suspicious, but I think Eönwë is somewhat suspicious. The thing about fish bein' still awake after a night of killing seems to me to be an unjustified application of the game mechanics to real life.

++Eönwë

Despite the fact that you'd made a pointed accusation against someone else shortly before you voted.

I think the rule of three thing is no good. The odds of the first three being wolves is the same as any other group of three sailors. Personally, I find it suspicious a seasoned sea salt such as Nerwen would give that old fish tale any credibility. However, I have a bad feeling about Rikae's post #15. That smilied first sentence raises my internal warning bell. Yes, it could just be an innocent joke. But that isn't what my gut says. Gonna to review the thread afore I vote, but Rikae, I accuse you.

You changed your mind about Nerwen in your next post, but you seem to have totally forgotten about 'accusing' Rikae. And I, not Rikae, was your initial focus toDay. :rolleyes:

[Boromir88]

Yar, har har, I be alive. I be thinkin' there was a bit more than jus' rum in thar drink, sumone must 'ave slipped somethin' sinister t' catch me off my wits! Which one of ye dogs did it! (And mind ye do it again for me?)

[Rikae]

EW, that smilied bit was actually kind of an inside joke from RL WW at our recent moot - Boro and Wilwa were there, they'll know what I mean.

I won't be around much for a while - I will be watching sports (that's right - I realize this is suspiciously out of character :smokin:) but when I return, I'd like to give the votes yesterDay a close look. Right now Inzil's defensiveness is making me uneasy, but at the same time. I'm not sure why so many people ended up voting for Morsul, since my vote was pretty clearly a throwaway - and indeed, one of those people was a cobbler. Shasta's "my only other option is Morsul" seems kind of out of place - I don't see why it should have been. Well, I'll be back in a few hours...

[Rikae]

I got distracted - the above should read "is making me uneasy, but at the same time, I'm aware that Inzil always makes me a bit uneasy."

[Glirdan]

If Morsul is guilty, then Glirdan likely is too, since he was the one who saved him there. So basically everyone who voted after me voted for someone who had votes already, Inzil doesn't look bad for it, Nerwen kind of. Mac kind of does though (in my opinion more then 3 votes for the same person in a row is a bad sign). Shasta looks really good, he split up the votes, which is nice, and if Morsul is guilty Shasta probably isn't. BeiGei's vote is interesting, since it made the tie, she's likely innocent if Morsul is guilty. Elf-Warrior's vote is kind of bad too.

And just because you're the first one who voted Eonwe makes you look completely innocent?? I would beg to differ. If anything, all of us who voted for him should be under some suspicion today and I will not deny that those of us who voted later probably look more suspicious.

As for my vote, I had voted between the two people I thought the more likely to be guilty. As I've said, I've seen Morsul do this in more then one game and it usually turns out that he's innocent. However, I am still suspicious of him due to his vote for Nerwen. It just seemed completely out of place and the so called "random" vote with an explanation? Hmm....

But for me, who is really jumping out at me is Elf-Warrior. When I had voted yetserDay, I was under the impression that only Boro and I were the only two who had not voted at that point, thus making me think I had two options: 1) Break the tie or 2) Throw away my vote. I wasn't going to throw away my vote seeing I actually had some suspicions yesterDay. Then, eight minutes after I had voted and two minutes before deadline, EW pops up, votes Eonwe and completely sealed his fate. This smells very fishy to me..

[wilwarin538]

And just because you're the first one who voted Eonwe makes you look completely innocent?? I would beg to differ. If anything, all of us who voted for him should be under some suspicion today and I will not deny that those of us who voted later probably look more suspicious.


Uhm, I actually didn't say anything about my vote looking bad or not. I don't really make a habit of anylysing my own votes. So I don't know what you're saying, cause I never said my vote made me look innocent. (though, it doesn't really make me look bad, in comparison to later voters)

[Rikae]

Day one voting:

Eonwe -> Glirdan
So far, e's jus' been latchin' on t' what's been said, an' twistin' it in 'is own way.
Known innocent, fair enough.

Wilwa -> Eonwe

He seems really defensive over fairly small comments. For example:
Reasonable sounding and I agreed with her at the time - could just as easily be fishy or ordinary, doesn't tell much.

Morsul -> Nerwen
Based on She's posted the most and With her Piratey talk confused me...
I don't approve of this, as I mentioned before, but that's because I don't really consider it good form, not because it's necessarily suspicious. It's actually pretty Morsul-ish and, again, doesn't tell us much.

Rikae -> Morsul
Because if you're going to make a random vote, make a random vote, but explaining your vote in a way that seems to apply to another person (it seems as though he thinks he's voting for Blind Guardian)? Such laziness deserves a reprimand.
Basically a throwaway vote/making a point, due to misgivings about voting Eonwe or Glirdy.

Inzil->Eonwe
Eönwë's edginess gives him the worst cast. I also recall the way he kept saying things to the effect of "How do we get the Fishmen?" "Let's talk about how to get the Fishmen." I tend to see that as a sign of evil intent.
Again looks like a fairly solid argument based on the little we had to go on. The placement is maybe somewhat worrying, since it's the second vote for Eonwe; certainly more worrying if Glirdan, Nerwen or Morsul is evil. If not, then it would tend to make Inzil look more innocentish in my eyes, since I doubt Fishzil would want to be responsible for getting the Eonwe-wagon rolling.

Shasta -> Morsul

I think Eonwe's getting a little too much suspicion at the moment. Could be wolf-on-wolf done too well, or there could be wolvery behind it. I don't think I'll be voting him. Nerwen and Glirdan seem okay to me, so really, my only other option is -

++Morsul
On second thought, this doesn't look terribly bad, although in Shasta's position here I wouldn't necessarily limit my options to those who already had votes. I am interested in knowing why he finds Glirdan and Nerwen innocentish, though.

Autume -> Morsul
I really don't feel like putting in another vote for Eonwe and making that a bandwagon. Unless you call two votes a bandwagon in which case I don't feel comfortable jumping on that bandwagon.

I'm really not comfortable with what Morsul did, and I have no problem voting for him. Since I need to put my vote in:
Known cobbler - seems to have thought Eonwe was evil.

Blind Guardian -> Morsul
I have a bad feeling about this but...
++Morsul

For the above stated reasons. Tired...
However, I couldn't find the "above stated reasons". BG's last post was:
1Am forum time?!?! That's 11 here! Woo...this is weird. I should start looking for someone to vote for -_-
-which has a really bad ring to it, but I'll try not to be biased by that, since I would generally expect a wolf to be careful not to say such bad-sounding things. I can only assume BG means the reasons stated above by other people... care to explain, Guardian?

Nerwen -Eonwe

Morsul's vote be scuvy, 'tis for sure, but

++Eonwe

be actin' more like as he have summat to hide.

'Tis the best I can do, shipmates.
I orignially found the last remark cobblerish, but that's not possible. Certainly an evil Morsul would reflect very badly on Nerwen here - perhaps too badly, as I don't think an evil Nerwen would save a comrade so obviously. "Something to hide" could, of course, always be giftedness, so it's possible Nerwen chose what she thought was a gifted for lynching.

Mac -> Eonwe
The reasons given for Morsul-votes deserve some examination toMorrow. There's something mighty fishy going on.
Apparently he votes Eonwe because he feels the Morsul-voters are a rescue party? Although this is a decent enough reason, it would also have been an excellent place for a wolf to hide, playing off what he may have recognized as cobblery somewhere in the Morsul-voting group. I'll be interested in reading his analysis.

Glirdan -> Eonwe
Between him and Morsul, my gut is telling me to vote for him. He's been overly defensive about some of the smallest things and just seems the fishier out of the two. I've seen Morsul pull this one post and vote thing before and it usually turns out that he's innocent.
Nothing much to say -Eonwe is already in the lead at this point, and Glirdan's points, though reasonable, have already been said by others. A very safe vote, I'd say.

Elf-Warrior -> Eonwe
Well, I don't think Morsul is suspicious, but I think Eönwë is somewhat suspicious. The thing about fish bein' still awake after a night of killing seems to me to be an unjustified application of the game mechanics to real life.
Same as with Glirdan, although even more pointless. EW seems to be missing the point on the "rule of three" thing, at least as I understand it: I always thought the idea was that wolves were anxious to post and influence the day's analysis/show how helpful they are early in the Day. This talk of unfair meta-reasoning reads a bit fishy, too. I wouldn't necessarily expect an ordo to read Eonwe and Nerwen's talk of excited baddies in this way, somehow.

Seems as though we either have an evil Morsul, a misguided cobbler, and a couple of wolves among the Eonwe-voters (Mac? Glirdan? EW?) or an evil Shasta or BG (but I highly doubt both) and an innocent Morsul, in which case Mac's analysis will be especially interesting. Morsul's role would be enlightening, but then again, there's some very weakly reasoned voting in the later Eonwe-wagon that has me worried.

[Boromir88]

EW, that smilied bit was actually kind of an inside joke from RL WW at our recent moot - Boro and Wilwa were there, they'll know what I mean.

Hehehe, the search for the disappeared 3rd packmate and Agan getting trapped by saying "I'm as much of a wolf as you are?" :p

Alright, so what have I gleaned so far.

1. autume death. Funny how it's the wolf-fishies ally again. Totally not me this time, I don't even think anyone (even me) could get that unlucky, to whack of their own cobbler night 1, 3 straight times.

However, one post I do find rather interesting is #53 she rather strongly defends Glirdan.

In response to Rikae:
I'm just as confused by this. I didn't really see an explanation for why suspicion was cast onto Glirdan.

And slightly suspicious of wilwa for saying something against Glirdan:
Wilwa - mentions finds Glirdan slightly suspicious.
The other 'slightly suspicious' person autume has is Eonwe. Defends a single person, keeps suspicion list quite small, I could see evil fishes thinking tum was the seer.

However, being the cultist, her posts should be read trying to signal the fishes to her role. Then again why would fish-Glirdan want to kill someone who was defending him? In these games he usually needs all the help he can get...with how lustful the rest of us are to see him hang. :p

2. I don't like Zil. Period. His reasons against Eonwe were wishy hog-wash. Eonwe was edgy, so that makes him evil? Huh? I thought it was standard for wolves to have much sweeter tone in their voices?

3. I think Mac mentioned the accumulation of Morsul votes to prevent the Eonwe bandwagoning, should be checked. Agree 100%.

Last game I partook in, I learned quite a bit of valuable info. Day 1, packmate Lottie was getting some suspicions, I casted a quick 2nd vote and bluntly said I was band-wagoning to start a "save Lottie from the bandwagon!" movement. It worked, and we giggled.

Although in this scenario, there is a bandwagon of uneasiness about the Eonwe votes, so lets bandwagon against this guy! It can look quite good for a wolf to be such a stout defender of an unjust bandwagoning. And, there was quite a bit of echoing sentiments to not bandwagon against Eonwe.

With that being said, I also know how easy it is to manipulate emotions on Day 1. And thus how easy it is to lead innocents to be like..."AHH bad bandwagon against Eonwe! Umm let me vote this creepy vote!" Then all of a sudden there's a bandwagon against that person. Long story short, I see the votes you're talking about Mac. But I'm also watching you and Wilwa. Capiche?

Summary. Feel the most comfortable with Glirdan. Limbo of trust and wariness with Mac and Wilwa. Slightly more suspicious of the, don't bandwagon Eonwe, vote Morsul entourage. Don't like Zil.

Edit: crossed with Rikae. This post legit took a while as I was suddenly bombarded by an apartment of people who thought it was a travesty that I haven't seen Mulan yet.

[Blind Guardian]

Lol the others above stated reasons not mine.

Edit: xed with boro

[The Elf-warrior]

Inzil, the error I thought I spotted was that Nerwen was suspicious of Blind Guardian and Eönwë. Yeah, that's probably a mountain out of a molehill. I'm not even sure now I can call what you said a full fledged error.

You changed your mind about Nerwen in your next post, but you seem to have totally forgotten about 'accusing' Rikae. And I, not Rikae, was your initial focus toDay. :rolleyes: I can see your point. After all, it was Rikae who initially seemed to think that Nerwen was only accusing Blind Guardian. However, speaking of mountains out of molehills, the line that made me suspicious of Rikae turns out to an injoke from RL werewolf.

Glirdan, my vote for Eönwë is suspicious. It's very exculpatory of me to say that now.:rolleyes: Here's why I voted for Eönwë:I noticed that my two possible suspects, Nerwen and Rikae, had a grand total of one and zero votes while Morsul and Eönwë had a number of votes on them. Why do I list Nerwen too even though I backed down from suspecting her? It's the thought process that went through my head.

So I thought I'd make my vote count (and ward off accusations of making a throwaway vote), and I thought Eönwë was more suspicious of the two top vote getters. The arguments against him seemed sensible to me although I personally hadn't gotten a bad feeling about him like I did with Rikae. Also, Morsul's vote seemed in character for him to me, thus rendering it a flimsy ground for suspicion in my mind.

Rikae, in regards to misunderstanding the rule of three, I see your point. However, I was under the impression that it didn't work.

[Macalaure]

Some comments and then off to analysing votes.

I don't like Wilwa's vote analysis very much. All it considers is vote placement, which, with few people around until the deadline, is not in the voters' hands too much. With this little to back up the analysis, her conclusions seem too certain.

Inzil is quite defensive about EW's analysis, not giving any other input so far toDay.

Glirdan looks better toDay, although his jump on EW is a bit too quick, I think.

Apparently he votes Eonwe because he feels the Morsul-voters are a rescue party?Not really. I had my own suspicions of Eonwe and agreed with other people's. I was still undecided, though, and the Morsul-waggon suddenly running away with somewhat sketchy votes kind of forced my hand. Eonwe was my best suspect and my only chance at doing something about the Morsul-votes.

[Inziladun]

And just because you're the first one who voted Eonwe makes you look completely innocent?? I would beg to differ. If anything, all of us who voted for him should be under some suspicion today and I will not deny that those of us who voted later probably look more suspicious.

This reaction looks rather strange to me. Wilwa didn't say she was innocent, said nothing about her vote at all.

But for me, who is really jumping out at me is Elf-Warrior. When I had voted yetserDay, I was under the impression that only Boro and I were the only two who had not voted at that point, thus making me think I had two options: 1) Break the tie or 2) Throw away my vote. I wasn't going to throw away my vote seeing I actually had some suspicions yesterDay. Then, eight minutes after I had voted and two minutes before deadline, EW pops up, votes Eonwe and completely sealed his fate. This smells very fishy to me..

This TEW suspicion makes me wary as well, since it seems to be just latching onto what I said of him earlier.

Uhm, I actually didn't say anything about my vote looking bad or not. I don't really make a habit of anylysing my own votes. So I don't know what you're saying, cause I never said my vote made me look innocent. (though, it doesn't really make me look bad, in comparison to later voters)

Your vote in itself being the first doesn't make you necessarily look more innocent than the later ones, since laying the groundwork for a bandwagon can be done by a wolf in relative safety. However I have no particular reason to suspect you at the moment, as you've been fairly sensible.

I can see your point. After all, it was Rikae who initially seemed to think that Nerwen was only accusing Blind Guardian. However, speaking of mountains out of molehills, the line that made me suspicious of Rikae turns out to an injoke from RL werewolf.

It just looks odd that you completely abandoned that suspicion of Rikae in favour of voting Eönwë, not even mentioning it again, even though you posted early toDay before Rikae explained herself.

[Glirdan]

So I'm in a pickel as I have to vote in about an hour and half at the latest as I probably will not be around for DL tonight....yet there is nothing really to go off of at all at the point.

I'm still quite leary of Morsul, but he hasn't said much today for me to vote him. TEW has made a slightly reasonable argument in his defense for his vote...but I still believe he warrants watching.


Nothing much to say -Eonwe is already in the lead at this point, and Glirdan's points, though reasonable, have already been said by others. A very safe vote, I'd say.

Just to point out that at the time of my vote, Eonwe and Morsul were tied in votes.

[Macalaure]

Obviously, the guilt or innocence of votes depends crucially on Morsul's role.

Eonwe -> Glirdan. Let's just skip this one.

Wilwa -> Eonwe(1). It's interesting that she mentions Eonwe for the first time in her vote post, but backs it up with several quotes (and comparatively little comment, which is suspicious already on its own). This doesn't feel right. With quotes and everything, Wilwa makes her vote reasoning look too big to think it's just an early-Day1-"I don't know what else to do"-vote. It must have been on her mind already, but then, why didn't it make the way into her earlier posts?

Morsul -> Nerwen. You can't really say anything about this vote either way.

Rikae -> Morsul(1). A bit kneejerk, but more in line with the typical "I don't know what else to do" than Wilwa.

Inzil -> Eonwe(2). It should be noted that the majority of Inzil's points against Eonwe came before Morsul showed up. His vote is therefore logical and not an attempt to save him. Whether Inzil's case is sound is another thing. I don't think, however, that Inzil is the kind of fish who would make a long pursuit of a random innocent on Day1. The one thing that worries me isI don't guess I'll vote Morsul ToDay.in his vote post. Even though Rikae's vote was right before his, it was just an arbitrary vote and it was not clear at that point that many others would follow (everybody else merely expressed annoyance, not intent to vote - an important reason why f.ex. Shasta voted Morsul was exactly because of the new Eonwe waggon). So, does Morsul have a special place in Inzil's mind? ;)

Shasta -> Morsul(2). Shasta is trying to save Eonwe. Quite obviously, Morsul and Shasta are not fellow fishes. It might be that Fishasta is trying to make himself look good by distancing himself from a sketchy bandwaggon, but I don't think it's too likely.

Autume -> Morsul(3). The cobbler finds an easy victim in Morsul, possibly believing that Eonwe might indeed be evil.

BG -> Morsul(4).I have a bad feeling about this but...
++MorsulVery fishy. "I have a bad feeling" are the words of a fish knowing that the lynched one is innocent, so she can still get out of the resulting questions the next Day by saying "I thought so...". It is also, as far as I can see, the only actual point BG makes all of yesterDay.

Nerwen -> Eonwe(3). The suspicion is weak, as she admits, but if Morsul is evil, I doubt evil Nerwen would have voted to save him this obviously. If Morsul is innocent, she still could be a fish choosing between two innocents. It's hard to tell.

Mac -> Eonwe(4). I explained my reasons in my last post.

Glirdan -> Eonwe(5). The crucial vote that put Eonwe in the lead. I think the fact that Glirdan obviously made quite an effort to make up his mind well in little time makes him look ok, even if Morsul is evil. If Glirdan is evil, he certainly knows how to act.
Then again, he is an actor... hmm...

EW -> Eonwe(6). The Elf-warrior confuses me quite a bit thus far. As usual with late inconsequential bandwaggon votes, it's hard to tell. He waited til the last minutes, which is not necessarily suspicious, but he did avoid having to make the actual decision between Eonwe and Morsul.

Suspicious:
Blind Guardian

Somewhat suspicious:
Wilwa, EW

Not sure either way:
Morsul, Inzil, Nerwen, Glirdan, Boro

Somewhat innocent:
Rikae, Shasta

[Rikae]

Lol the others above stated reasons not mine.
Um, ok. Which ones?

It just looks odd that you completely abandoned that suspicion of Rikae in favour of voting Eönwë, not even mentioning it again, even though you posted early toDay before Rikae explained herself.
Hm. I don't like this at all. If it looks odd (though it doesn't, really, to me), it's in a way no innocent should go pointing out for all to see.

[Blind Guardian]

Why am I suspicious? Because I didn't know who to vote for? There where two people that were either going to get lynched, you have to vote for one of them. If I voted for say Nerwen I would have had to explain my vote, going on nothing. These where the two people to vote for: I didn't like everyone voting Eönwë, but there was very little on Morsul either. I figured voting Morsul was the best thing to do. I kinda figured he wasn't going to get lynched but I figured Eönwë wasn't hairy :P Though she might have been something else, Morsul I didn't know. It was kinda a wild vote.

Edit: xed with rikae

[wilwarin538]

I don't like Wilwa's vote analysis very much. All it considers is vote placement, which, with few people around until the deadline, is not in the voters' hands too much. With this little to back up the analysis, her conclusions seem too certain.


My conclusions were not 'certain', and I said they were completely based on the votes and nothing else. I certainly don't plan on basing any suspicions on my little vote analysis alone, it was just something to get the day started, since there wasn't much else exciting that happened yesterDay.


Wilwa -> Eonwe(1). It's interesting that she mentions Eonwe for the first time in her vote post, but backs it up with several quotes (and comparatively little comment, which is suspicious already on its own). This doesn't feel right. With quotes and everything, Wilwa makes her vote reasoning look too big to think it's just an early-Day1-"I don't know what else to do"-vote. It must have been on her mind already, but then, why didn't it make the way into her earlier posts?


No, I was barely around yesterDay, most of his posts I think were even made while I was gone. There weren't too many posts to begin with so it was easy to catch the pattern.

[Inziladun]

It just looks odd that you completely abandoned that suspicion of Rikae in favour of voting Eönwë, not even mentioning it again, even though you posted early toDay before Rikae explained herself.

Hm. I don't like this at all. If it looks odd (though it doesn't, really, to me), it's in a way no innocent should go pointing out for all to see.

If I'm understanding your meaning, that doesn't make sense. Why shouldn't I point it out? I saw a major inconsistancy there. He said "I accuse you, Rikae", and then voted for Eönwë, saying nothing more about you yesterDay.

[Glirdan]

Oh I really hate doing this this early, especially since there has been barely any actual chatter toDay, but I have to vote like now seeing as I know I will not be back for DL....So, I'm going to go with the only other person I have any real suspicions on:

++Morsul

His supposed random vote yesterDay for Nerwen is really bugging me. Also, it is quite possible that he is using the fact that we all know he does this one post and vote thing in most games he's played in before and is using it as a cover.

Sorry guys, but I gotta go. Hope to be around more for Day 3.

[Rikae]

Inzil, I definitely had the impression you were talking about EW not mentioning me toDay. not even mentioning it again, even though you posted early toDay before Rikae explained herself. You pretty clearly say "toDay" there, and indeed, it makes more sense - I wouldn't have expected someone to mention previous suspects who had no chance of being lynched in a vote-post. In fact, you also mentioned EW's lack of suspicion toward me toDay earlier, although more in the context of defending yourself, wasn't it? It does look as if you're trying to draw attention to an overnight dropping of suspicion, which is not, in my book, an innocentish thing to do.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Here and reading, but distracted. I'll post in a bit.

[Morsul the Dark]

Why am I suspicious? Because I didn't know who to vote for? There where two people that were either going to get lynched, you have to vote for one of them. If I voted for say Nerwen I would have had to explain my vote, going on nothing. These where the two people to vote for: I didn't like everyone voting Eönwë, but there was very little on Morsul either. I figured voting Morsul was the best thing to do. I kinda figured he wasn't going to get lynched but I figured Eönwë wasn't hairy :P Though she might have been something else, Morsul I didn't know. It was kinda a wild vote.

Edit: xed with rikae

hmmm.... Odd here.... BG is very odd throughout the game but I think this post is a culmination of that...

Probably voting BG... will see if anything develops slow day...

[Blind Guardian]

I don't see anything wrong with that. Explain your self more.

[Blind Guardian]

By the way, I'm an odd person.

Yes! Finally the paged turned!

[Morsul the Dark]

I don't see anything wrong with that. Explain your self more.

Why am I suspicious? Because I didn't know who to vote for? There where two people that were either going to get lynched, you have to vote for one of them. If I voted for say Nerwen I would have had to explain my vote, going on nothing. These where the two people to vote for: I didn't like everyone voting Eönwë, but there was very little on Morsul either. I figured voting Morsul was the best thing to do. I kinda figured he wasn't going to get lynched but I figured Eönwë wasn't hairy :P Though she might have been something else, Morsul I didn't know. It was kinda a wild vote.

You didn't Vote Nerwen because "You'd have to explain it." Maning you wanted a vote that could blend in.

Seems to me you can now claim you didn't help lynch an innocent...

And then like a Nerwen vote... You have nothing to back it up...

++BG

[Shastanis Althreduin]

If I voted for say Nerwen I would have had to explain my vote, going on nothing.

Morsul, I think you're misrepresenting BG a bit here. She was pretty clearly using Nerwen as an example, not saying that she was going to vote her.

However, BG, Morsul does have a point. Are you saying you voted mainly to avoid having to explain a vote in general?

[Inziladun]

Inzil, I definitely had the impression you were talking about EW not mentioning me toDay. You pretty clearly say "toDay" there, and indeed, it makes more sense - I wouldn't have expected someone to mention previous suspects who had no chance of being lynched in a vote-post. In fact, you also mentioned EW's lack of suspicion toward me toDay earlier, although more in the context of defending yourself, wasn't it? It does look as if you're trying to draw attention to an overnight dropping of suspicion, which is not, in my book, an innocentish thing to do.

Not the overnight changing of TEW's mind, but the fact that yesterDay he'd put that out against you so forcefully and then let it go. Saying "I accuse you" is about as direct as one can get, and why make a statement like that at one point, and not bring it up again the same day, with no reference to having second thoughts about you, or something like that? And if TEW, before I brought up the subject toDay, had said he didn't suspect you any more, and here's why, I might have thought what you're saying: possible Gifted, and I wouldn't have mentioned it. But it didn't happen that way.

You didn't Vote Nerwen because "You'd have to explain it." Maning you wanted a vote that could blend in.

Seems to me you can now claim you didn't help lynch an innocent...

And then like a Nerwen vote... You have nothing to back it up...

++BG

Really don't know about this. That seems kind of flimsy, Morsul. You also kept your hands quite clean yesterDay through a safe vote.

x/d with Shasta

[Blind Guardian]

No, I did explain it didn't I? I was just saying if I voted for someone that one person voted for it would look weird.

I gotta go now. I'll be back in a hour or so. Bye!

[Morsul the Dark]

Morsul, I think you're misrepresenting BG a bit here. She was pretty clearly using Nerwen as an example, not saying that she was going to vote her.

However, BG, Morsul does have a point. Are you saying you voted mainly to avoid having to explain a vote in general?

I was continuing her example... Although my fault I didn't make that clear...

[Inziladun]

No, I did explain it didn't I? I was just saying if I voted for someone that one person voted for it would look weird.

I gotta go now. I'll be back in a hour or so. Bye!

Thinking of how your vote will be perceived by others is not a very innocent way of going about things, BG.

[Morsul the Dark]

Really don't know about this. That seems kind of flimsy, Morsul. You also kept your hands quite clean yesterDay through a safe vote.

x/d with Shasta

True I'll admit, though I was busy and trully hadn't known it was Day 1... And I really Was confused by what was going on due to a lot of piratey talk:rolleyes:

[Blind Guardian]

Iunno. That's what I did. I stuck between two people and voted for the one that looked better.


Btw, I'm am ordo (for once!) and I'm not kidding. Yeah, I know that doesn't look good. I just don't wanto get lynched on day 1 or 2

[Inziladun]

Hmm. The reason I didn't vote Morsul yesterDay was that his vote was a very Morsul thing to do, and I wasn't willing to vote him for that, at least not on Day 1.

What's going on now, though? Hmm....

[Blind Guardian]

Back now...

WOO! I thought my saying that would make everyone talk!

[wilwarin538]

Wow, still not much going on then. Well I'm only around for about another 30 minutes I'm afraid, and I'll have to vote at the end of that.

Thinking of how your vote will be perceived by others is not a very innocent way of going about things, BG.

And yet, everyone does it. No one wants to be suspected, whether or not you're innocent. I actually think BG is looking pretty good right now. She (he? what? I'm getting everyone mixed up) is in a position I've been in many times. Doing somehting that seems to make perfect sense to me and then being totally baffled when everyone suspects me for it later. He does have a point, if he had voted for some other random person at that point we could easily be suspecting him for that. It made more sense for him to choose between the two, rather then waste a vote. Which is also what Glirdan did.

And yet. Glirdan is looking bad to me. I know, he always does, but it's always for good reason. Both yesterDay and toDay he seems to just be latching on to other people's ideas, looking very agreeable, and then earlier he totally pounced on something I said, and interpreted it very incorrectly. I also find it odd that he suspects Elf-Warrior toDay, then next post says Morsul doesn't look bad enough to vote for, and then votes for Morsul who he says is the only person he is suspicious of.

Morsul looks kinda bad too. But I really want to stay away from that one, cause it's looking to me like a possible bandwagon disaster part deux. So I likely won't be voting for him.

I'm super tempted to vote Glirdan, cause he looks so bad, but I'm weary of that too. I'll keep looking I guess. He'll be my vote if nothing worse pops up.

x'ed really? no cross posting? come on peoples....

[Blind Guardian]

Thank you, thank you, thank you Wilwa! I'm female. Right now, if I had to vote, I'd be clueless. Luckly, I have until later. Thus:


Suspicious:
no one


Possable:
glirdan
morsul though I wouldn't vote for either ATM

nothing:
everyone else

Glidran:
What is he trying to do??

Morsul
same as yesterday. Also for his weird vote on me. No evadence there!

[Inziladun]

And yet. Glirdan is looking bad to me. I know, he always does, but it's always for good reason. Both yesterDay and toDay he seems to just be latching on to other people's ideas, looking very agreeable, and then earlier he totally pounced on something I said, and interpreted it very incorrectly. I also find it odd that he suspects Elf-Warrior toDay, then next post says Morsul doesn't look bad enough to vote for, and then votes for Morsul who he says is the only person he is suspicious of.

You do have a point about Glirdan. He did say something to the effect that Morsul hadn't said anything to earn his vote, then voted Morsul the next post. He also didn't address what I was wondering about here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=633216&postcount=109).

Morsul looks kinda bad too. But I really want to stay away from that one, cause it's looking to me like a possible bandwagon disaster part deux. So I likely won't be voting for him.

I guess Morsul does look the worse between him and BG, But I still think trying not to appear suspicious in one's votes is generally a hallmark of evil thinking.

[wilwarin538]

Ok, gotta go to sleep now. Since nothing worse has popped out to me:

++Glirdan

For previously stated reasons.

Good night all.

[Blind Guardian]

Okay, I won't over do this but:

Morsul->BeiGei
Wilwa->Glirdan

anyone else leaving? This doesn't help me at all, luckly I have all Day. Right now they both look bad, but I wouldn't vote either. Anyone wanna speak up? Any wolves? No one? Okay, no problem, I'll wait.

[Morsul the Dark]

Also Glirdan voted me

so

Glirdan->Morsul
Morsul-Blind Guardian
Wilwa-->Glirdan

[Blind Guardian]

Hanks, was that on page three? Ah, I see. Very little reason in that.

Okay, I have to go. I'll be back in 45 minutes.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Not a lot having gone on, I see. I really don't like BG's comment on her vote - it seems like she voted in the way that would shine best on her. But actually coming out and saying that... egh. I don't know if that's too obvious. I do remember headdesking multiple times in the game I hosted, where BG was a wolf, and apologizing profusely to Boro... I'm really not sure at this point. I think I want to vote BG, but need to look at Glirdan because I haven't yet, and there seems to be some agreement that he looks fishy.

...and that term is actually applicable in this game. :p

[Morsul the Dark]

I have a bad feeling about this but...
++Morsul

For the above stated reasons. Tired...

Above reasons? I saw a bunch of songs... A few vote counts and lists... never a reason...

[Morsul the Dark]

Just noticed Rikae brought up my last point...

[Boromir88]

I'm extremely nervous about Zil. I just do not like his suspicions, in seemingly having a strong opinion about Rikae, but stirring most the attention towards easy targets for weak reasons. If you have a suspicion against Rikae, and feel it's solid enough to continue arguing with her over the reasons, get her by the juggular and get after her. Don't toy around like you're in some kind of dance and be like..."BG looks the worst, she considers how her vote looks to people!"

Wilwa's absolutely right, anyone who doesn't want to get lynched thinks of how their vote comes off to everyone. It's hog wash to say it only applies to the evil ones. Look through all the votes yesterday, I guarantee in the vast majority, people considered how their vote would be perceived. I mean when someone says "I'm not going to vote for Eonwe, because I don't want to bandwagon" they're thinking about how a vote for Eonwe would look...right? And they are consciously making a decision not to, because they want their vote to look bandwagonish.

Look, BG gave the thought process behind her vote. If she blatantly said Day 1, when making the vote "I don't want to vote for this person, because people will think it's weird," I would be a little more worried. As that would show the way you want your votes to look is weighing heavily on your mind, too heavily, which looks suspicious. However, BG gave her thought process about her vote, after the fact, and included an honest point that she thought about how her vote would look. Anyone who doesn't want to get lynched does Zil, and your insistance that you think it's a good sign of evil, is making you highly suspicious in me eyes.

I'm not even sure what the hub-bub about BG is, my one game with her, was her first, and we were both wolves. Has a lovably chattery personality and her twice now saying she's an ordo, I'm believing it. With the amount of gifteds, an early wolf in trouble would not insist on being ordo, they would need to make a false reveal to drag out some of the gifteds. BG's been a wolf before, I'm pretty sure I even told her that in her first game, so she'd be aware of the situation and need to bring out gifteds if she was a wolf in trouble this early. I still see she needs to try her hand at being more subtle (:p) but this time her posts scream innocent and now first time newbie wolf.

[Inziladun]

Back now...

WOO! I thought my saying that would make everyone talk!

Saying what? That you considered how your vote would be perceived when deciding who to vote for? Are you saying you only said that to get a rise out of people?

Okay, I won't over do this but:

Morsul->BeiGei
Wilwa->Glirdan

anyone else leaving? This doesn't help me at all, luckly I have all Day. Right now they both look bad, but I wouldn't vote either. Anyone wanna speak up? Any wolves? No one? Okay, no problem, I'll wait.

If two people "both look bad", why not vote one of them? I don't follow your reasoning there.

x/d with Boro

[Inziladun]

I'm extremely nervous about Zil. I just do not like his suspicions, in seemingly having a strong opinion about Rikae, but stirring most the attention towards easy targets for weak reasons. If you have a suspicion against Rikae, and feel it's solid enough to continue arguing with her over the reasons, get her by the juggular and get after her. Don't toy around like you're in some kind of dance and be like..."BG looks the worst, she considers how her vote looks to people!"

Really? Show where I once said I suspected Rikae.

And while you're at it, show me where I said BG was the most suspicious.

You can't.

[Boromir88]

but this time her posts scream innocent and now first time newbie wolf.

That should be "not" and not "now." :rolleyes:

[Boromir88]

Really? Show where I once said I suspected Rikae.

And while you're at it, show me where I said BG was the most suspicious.

You can't.

You are far too careful to be that blunt Zil, where I am much more over the top dramatic. :D

You on BG:

Thinking of how your vote will be perceived by others is not a very innocent way of going about things, BG. #130

I guess Morsul does look the worse between him and BG, But I still think trying not to appear suspicious in one's votes is generally a hallmark of evil thinking. #134
How very sly of you. "Guess you're right about Morsul, Wilwa, but BG still committed sure wolf-sign #204." While you seem to be saying you think Morsul the most suspicious, you actually are underhandedly casting the strongest suspicion towards BG.

On Rikae:
If I'm understanding your meaning, that doesn't make sense. Why shouldn't I point it out? I saw a major inconsistancy there. He said "I accuse you, Rikae", and then voted for Eönwë, saying nothing more about you yesterDay.
I need to stop interpretting "that doesn't make sense," as someone saying "I think you're suspicious." That was my mistake. Carry on.

[Inziladun]

How very sly of you. "Guess you're right about Morsul, Wilwa, but BG still committed sure wolf-sign #204." While you seem to be saying you think Morsul the most suspicious, you actually are underhandedly casting the strongest suspicion towards BG.

No, at the time I was agreeing with Wilwa about Morsul, while still not liking BG's comment.
As a matter of fact, I was leaning toward Glirdan or Morsul toDay. I must say you've brought a new dynamic into it, though.

On Rikae:

I need to stop interpretting "that doesn't make sense," as someone saying "I think you're suspicious." That was my mistake. Carry on.

With Rikae, I felt she misunderstood what I meant by saying TEW was inconsistant by outright accusing her Day 1, and never mentioning it again the same Day. She seemed to think his changing his mind overNight could have been a clue he was Seer. Since the turnabout apparently happened on Day 1, I wanted to explain why I hadn't believed that myself. So no, I didn't necessarily suspect Rikae for all that, though it got a little exasperating.

[Rikae]

Freudian slip, Boro? :Merisu:

Alas, a list - as much to sort my own thoughts out as anything:

Inzil - Fishyish. I'm not really buying his explanations: they sound rather fabricated, and yes, it's true he didn't say he suspected me or found BG most suspicious, but that serves to highlight just how slippery he's been - poking at things from the edges, not taking a position.
Nerwen - Could as easily be a fish or not, really; I don't feel like I have a lot to go on here. She's been posting less than I would normally expect.
Blind Guardian - Making lots of mistakes - maybe too many to actually be evil. I'm leaning toward ordo who just has (what I would consider) completely the wrong idea about how to go about voting and discussing votes.
Macalaure - His seems reasonable enough, which he would just as much if he were evil as if he were good. I'd mention his quietness, but he was watching football and fireworks all day. Like Nerwen, one I could only read when he's said more.
Gilrdan - Certainly a fishy voter. I'm seeing a lot of arguments against him, though, and not all seem sensible, which is a bad sign.
Wilwarin - A little defensive, I think. Nothing concrete, but she gives me a creepy feeling.
Boromir - Seemingly very reasonable and calm. I guess he can afford to be, since everyone seems to overlook him in their questioning and suspicion.
The Elf-warrior - The conflict with Inzil is interesting - EW seems quite defensive and elaborate in his explanations without really saying much. He had a few suspicions which turned out quite flimsy, but that's not necessarily a bad sign. His vote for Eonwe came at a time where it reveals nothing, but the fact that he waited for that point may reveal something.
Morsul the Dark - Almost seems deliberately unhelpful, as if he's refusing to explain his votes reasonably to make a point or something. I don't know him well enough to say if this is wolfish or not, coming from him.
Shasta - I thought his vote yesterDay looked suspicious, but then I looked again and it seemed pretty neutral... at least, it would if he would step forward and say what he thinks of people, particularly Glirdan and Nerwen, at this point, and why he felt it was so essential to vote for someone who already had a vote.

I could vote for Inzil now, or possibly BG, Morsul or the Elf Warrior. All have strikes against them and knowing any of their roles would be useful in any event.

EDIT: X'd with Boro and Inzil.

[Rikae]

With Rikae, I felt she misunderstood what I meant by saying TEW was inconsistant by outright accusing her Day 1, and never mentioning it again the same Day. She seemed to think his changing his mind overNight could have been a clue he was Seer. Since the turnabout apparently happened on Day 1, I wanted to explain why I hadn't believed that myself. So no, I didn't necessarily suspect Rikae for all that, though it got a little exasperating.

I "misunderstood" because you explicitly said "toDay", as I pointed out in a previous post. Your attempts to cover your tracks aren't working.

[Boromir88]

Before voting, I hope Mac can get back on and answer this for me

Obviously, the guilt or innocence of votes depends crucially on Morsul's role.

You seem to be implying here we should lynch Morsul to find out his role and then that will give us the most information. Am I accurate?

Sometimes I think it's a very helpful thing to do, and that's one thing about Morsul, is he usually gets a lot of people chattering about him, which can give a lot of information. But we have to be quite careful and sure we're going to learn something from it. Frankly, as I don't trust you enough at this point, and how a Fish-Mac (sounds like a McDonald's sandwhich :p) could easily manipulate what we think we would find out by knowing Morsul's role, I want you to give me...

An innocent Morsul, what will that tell you, and about whom? And same for an evil Morsul.

I mean aside from what you've already stated in your post with the vote analysis...anything else?

[Morsul the Dark]

Deliberately unhelpful?

How many ways to Sunday do I have to go to explain Why I think BG is suspicious?

You want to know my behavior here's my M.O. for better or worse I get tunnel vision and have trouble shifting focus. Once I see something Really weird I hone in on it It takes a lot to make me change my mind. That being said,

Once Again... BG voted me ONLY because adifferent vote would look bad... and In my opinion so she could say she didn't help lynch an Ordo(Because she taught I wouldn't be lynched.) and didn't use her own reasons for it...

[Boromir88]

Freudian slip, Boro? :Merisu:


No more sinister than Thomas Jefferson smudging out "my fellow subjects" and writing "citizens" over it in the Declaration. :p

[Inziladun]

I "misunderstood" because you explicitly said "toDay", as I pointed out in a previous post. Your attempts to cover your tracks aren't working.

I thought I covered that here.

Not the overnight changing of TEW's mind, but the fact that yesterDay he'd put that out against you so forcefully and then let it go. Saying "I accuse you" is about as direct as one can get, and why make a statement like that at one point, and not bring it up again the same day, with no reference to having second thoughts about you, or something like that? And if TEW, before I brought up the subject toDay, had said he didn't suspect you any more, and here's why, I might have thought what you're saying: possible Gifted, and I wouldn't have mentioned it. But it didn't happen that way.

[Blind Guardian]

Back from the lake, currently 9PM that leaves me two hours to vote, and 95 degrees F out. Reading...

[Blind Guardian]

Above reasons? I saw a bunch of songs... A few vote counts and lists... never a reason...


The others vote you idiot!

[Blind Guardian]

Saying what? That you considered how your vote would be perceived when deciding who to vote for? Are you saying you only said that to get a rise out of people?



If two people "both look bad", why not vote one of them? I don't follow your reasoning there.

x/d with Boro

No, not really. Don't you READ!

Iunno maybe because I HAVE TWO HOURS LEFT!

[Blind Guardian]

I'm extremely nervous about Zil. I just do not like his suspicions, in seemingly having a strong opinion about Rikae, but stirring most the attention towards easy targets for weak reasons. If you have a suspicion against Rikae, and feel it's solid enough to continue arguing with her over the reasons, get her by the juggular and get after her. Don't toy around like you're in some kind of dance and be like..."BG looks the worst, she considers how her vote looks to people!"

Wilwa's absolutely right, anyone who doesn't want to get lynched thinks of how their vote comes off to everyone. It's hog wash to say it only applies to the evil ones. Look through all the votes yesterday, I guarantee in the vast majority, people considered how their vote would be perceived. I mean when someone says "I'm not going to vote for Eonwe, because I don't want to bandwagon" they're thinking about how a vote for Eonwe would look...right? And they are consciously making a decision not to, because they want their vote to look bandwagonish.

Look, BG gave the thought process behind her vote. If she blatantly said Day 1, when making the vote "I don't want to vote for this person, because people will think it's weird," I would be a little more worried. As that would show the way you want your votes to look is weighing heavily on your mind, too heavily, which looks suspicious. However, BG gave her thought process about her vote, after the fact, and included an honest point that she thought about how her vote would look. Anyone who doesn't want to get lynched does Zil, and your insistance that you think it's a good sign of evil, is making you highly suspicious in me eyes.

I'm not even sure what the hub-bub about BG is, my one game with her, was her first, and we were both wolves. Has a lovably chattery personality and her twice now saying she's an ordo, I'm believing it. With the amount of gifteds, an early wolf in trouble would not insist on being ordo, they would need to make a false reveal to drag out some of the gifteds. BG's been a wolf before, I'm pretty sure I even told her that in her first game, so she'd be aware of the situation and need to bring out gifteds if she was a wolf in trouble this early. I still see she needs to try her hand at being more subtle (:p) but this time her posts scream innocent and now first time newbie wolf.

Thank you!

[Blind Guardian]

Freudian slip, Boro? :Merisu:

Alas, a list - as much to sort my own thoughts out as anything:


Blind Guardian - Making lots of mistakes - maybe too many to actually be evil. I'm leaning toward ordo who just has (what I would consider) completely the wrong idea about how to go about voting and discussing votes..


Thank you. Now, can someone explain what mistakes I am making so I wont do it again?

[Morsul the Dark]

The others vote you idiot!

Really Idiot? That's Civil...

I pointed out it was already discussed the following post, so my good hearted polite friend, I believe You need to tone back a bit.

[Blind Guardian]

Really Idiot? That's Civil...

I pointed out it was already discussed the following post, so my good hearted polite friend, I believe You need to tone back a bit.

Sorry...

[Inziladun]

No, not really. Don't you READ!

Iunno maybe because I HAVE TO FNG HOURS LEFT!

I READ what you put in the post I quoted. And having two hours in which to vote is not an explanation of why you aren't willing to vote for either of two persons you say "look bad".

The others vote you idiot!

It's also rather poor form to resort to name-calling.

x/d with Morsul and BG.

[Morsul the Dark]

Thank you. Now, can someone explain what mistakes I am making so I wont do it again?

I Can, Vote for your own reasons not what others want you to do. It shows a Pack mentality that leads one to belive your, go figure, part of a pack.

Then if you do have a thought process it should be based on who's most suspicious to you Not who makes you look least suspicious. You could have a Fishman in your sights but give them a pass based on your own inhibitions.

though Methinks still your a bit scalley

[Morsul the Dark]

Sorry...

Fair enough, Actually it ironically makes you (A bit, but not aquitted) less suspicious based on my own anger prompted posts in the past.

[Blind Guardian]

I Can, Vote for your own reasons not what others want you to do. It shows a Pack mentality that leads one to belive your, go figure, part of a pack.

Then if you do have a thought process it should be based on who's most suspicious to you Not who makes you look least suspicious. You could have a Fishman in your sights but give them a pass based on your own inhibitions.

though Methinks still your a bit scalley

What? I'm not voting because I want to see if anything changes. And it is, slowly.

[Paranoia]

Just a friendly reminder: Phase change is in an hour and a half. The only one currently not required to vote is Nerwen.

[Blind Guardian]

Fair enough, Actually it ironically makes you (A bit, but not aquitted) less suspicious based on my own anger prompted posts in the past.

I hate getting angry! Then I just post hoping someone understands! My biggest fear is being the 'spotlight'. (in RL) I don't know why.

[Morsul the Dark]

no I mean That's wht to do in the future I didn't mean vote this second;)

Vote when you're comfortable But vote for someone You are comfortable voting for not for who Others are... Am I clear? Because I barely understand that sentence:rolleyes:

[Macalaure]

No one wants to be suspected, whether or not you're innocent.I do. More fun that way. :)

I mean when someone says "I'm not going to vote for Eonwe, because I don't want to bandwagon" they're thinking about how a vote for Eonwe would look...right?Not necessarily. If you bandwaggon, you make the chance that the person you voted for dies much more likely, especially at certain crucial points. A person who is uncertain might not want to pronounce doom even upon the person they suspect most. Also, bandwaggons have a history of going wrong (for some reason, nobody seems to remember successful bandwaggons), so some people shy away from joining and fueling them.

You seem to be implying here we should lynch Morsul to find out his role and then that will give us the most information. Am I accurate?Nope. Just meant to say that analysing votes is difficult. I don't like lynching people just for information. It's not really fair, and it wastes a lynch, so unless you really know the information is going to help a great deal, it's probably not worth it.


Blind Guardian looks innocent to me. Not exactly very helpful, for certain, but a fish would have to be quite gutsy to openly admit she wants to look good. Her overall tone toDay is also quite earnest, I think.

Morsul is baffling, but probably not evilly so.

Inzil sure is tense toDay.


Something else just came to mind. The fishes killed a Morsul-voter. Considering that his lack of posting was one reason he got under fire, with his one post being suspicious, the fishes could easily assume that Morsul would be able to have a more comfortable Day2 - or at least have every chance to have one such. Killing one of his voters would have been an unnecessary move. (Unless, of course, they thought Autume was the seer, but I don't remember anything about her that seemed that way.) A frame by unthreatened fishes who weren't able to think of anybody strategically better to kill appears most likely to me.


Now I have to make up my mind who to vote for. I have some vague ideas, but nothing good enough.

[Boromir88]

Fair enough, Actually it ironically makes you (A bit, but not aquitted) less suspicious based on my own anger prompted posts in the past.

Agreed. Still not cool.

As frustrating as it is to know you're innocent BG, and seemingly have everyone bombarding you with supposed "mistakes" you're making, while you beat your head off a wall trying to explain, gotta have a bit more self-control. Remember, just a game, nothing's personal and the people spinning tales about how suspicious you look, could very well be evil ya know. Still uncalled for, happens again, I don't care if I think you're innocent, I'll vote for you.

With that being said, you've said sorry, Morsul's an understanding gentleman and ready to move on. So, let's carry on with something more constructive eh?

[Morsul the Dark]

I'm thinking Boromir is innocent... He's laying into Inzil Way too much to be Wolf on Wolf This early and if Inzil is innocent boro's head would be up on the block faster than a... something fast(12:40Am brain slowing) and if Inzil's a wolf then he gets props...

[Inziladun]

All right, it's bedtime, and I have to vote.

I don't understand BG, but I'm not convinced at the moment she's evil.

I'm not at all convinced Morsul is innocent, but I'm not as comfortable voting him as I am

++Glirdan

for the reasons I gave here.

You do have a point about Glirdan. He did say something to the effect that Morsul hadn't said anything to earn his vote, then voted Morsul the next post. He also didn't address what I was wondering about here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=633216&postcount=109).

[Blind Guardian]

I think Boro's innocent also. I don't know Glirdan, Izil, or Morsul. Though I don't know if I'd vote for the latter two.

++Glirdan

Just realized TIMES UP!

I am voting for Glirdan because he is the only one that I feel has the most aginst him (her?).


Yar har me hearties, what are we doing standing here jabbering like a bunch of mud puppies when we gots murderous Fish on board??



I says that I is in agreement with this here landlubberin' mud pup. Sumtins not right with that there Eonwe. The way hes a splittin' his mind about the little lass Nerwen and that there Guardian o' the Blind feller has me thinking. What if he's a murderous scumbucket who's tryin' to stick w' th' person who bes making the most sense in his mind? Or p'rhap he be one our mateys who be all confuddled in that brain o' his. I be keeping my eye on him....would keep both, but I lost me other one in a fight with some sea critters.



Well tha's no good matey!!


I don't like that. Also there is only 5 or 6 post made by him/her. Weird. That's the only reason why he voted for Eönwë besides a gut feeling. I don't buy it

[Macalaure]

Wilwa - not sure what to think of her right now. Just reread her posts and still the same.And yet. Glirdan is looking bad to me. I know, he always does, but it's always for good reason. Both yesterDay and toDay he seems to just be latching on to other people's ideas, looking very agreeable, and then earlier he totally pounced on something I said, and interpreted it very incorrectly. I also find it odd that he suspects Elf-Warrior toDay, then next post says Morsul doesn't look bad enough to vote for, and then votes for Morsul who he says is the only person he is suspicious of.I understand the part concerning Glirdan's approach to EW and Morsul, but the rest? I don't find him that agreeable toDay nor most of yesterDay. Interpreting something incorrectly is not suspicious unless you have reason to believe it was intentionally so, which I don't see here.
Would I want to vote for her based on this? Not really...

Glirdan - don't like to see him becoming toDay's bandwaggon choice. Even though he ended up being wrong, he seemed very innocent yesterDay before the deadline. Though he went a bit too far, maybe, I can see why Wilwa's analysis irritated him. That leaves his not-so-well reasoned suspicion of EW and his not-at-all-well vote for Morsul. He merits attention, certainly, but I would be uncomfortable with his death toDay.

EW - keeps bugging me, and I don't know why. Nothing he says screams fish, but I can't help myself. Maybe it's the dearth of posts.

Inzil - very industrious and a bit too tense. Looking closer at his posts, however, I don't really find anything suspicious. Watching him, though.

Nerwen - needs to post more. Not a target for toDay, but I'm wary.
Boro - looks innocent enough so far
Morsul - not suspicious
Shasta - not alarmed
BG - seems innocent
Rikae - nothing I've seen so far looks evil

And who do I vote for now? *grumble*

[Rikae]

Not too suspicious of Glirdan, and it seems the others with votes are Morsul and Blind Guardian. I'd like to vote for Inzil, but that doesn't seem to have much support...

[Macalaure]

Inzil? Nah, not suspicious enough at this point. Given the choice between him and Glirdan, I'd rather try my luck with Glirdan.

I wish people were posting more... :(

[Blind Guardian]

Glirdan->Morsul
Morsul-Blind Guardian
Wilwa-->Glirdan
Inziladûn->Glirdan
BeiGei->Glirdan


It's not a bandwagon. I think everyone is just voting for their most suspicious.

Edit: xed with Mac

[Paranoia]

Just recieved word from Shasta, who is unable to access the computer due to a few other issues.

He did, however, fortunately leave me with a vote.

++Blind Guardian

Which gives us the following vote count.

Glirdan->Morsul
Morsul-Blind Guardian
Wilwa-->Glirdan
Inziladûn->Glirdan
BeiGei->Glirdan
Shasta->BeiGei

On another note, just 22 minutes to go, and just a little over half the ship has voted.

[Rikae]

Of the people I listed as possible votes, the one I'm having the most difficulty imagining as a possible innocent is:

++Morsul

[Blind Guardian]

Why me? And if he didn't have internet how would he know?

Why can you not imagine him innocent?

[Macalaure]

Glirdan -> Morsul
Morsul -> Blind Guardian
Wilwa -> Glirdan
Inzil -> Glirdan(2)
Blind Guardian -> Glirdan(3)
Shasta -> Blind Guardian(2)
Rikae -> Morsul(2)

Do I like these options. No.

Where is Boro?

[Macalaure]

10 minutes left. Left to vote other than me: Nerwen, Boro, EW. Present out of those other than me: none. I guess the "good" thing is that at least my vote won't change the outcome anyway...

[Boromir88]

Not too suspicious of Glirdan, and it seems the others with votes are Morsul and Blind Guardian. I'd like to vote for Inzil, but that doesn't seem to have much support...

You should know where I stand on that matter, at least when it comes to Blind and Inzil.

Morsul, can't tell, probably never will. He gets a lot of people talking about him, but in this situation, going to agree with Mac. Don't want to vote for someone to try and get info, when that could be completely useless and when I've got some other stronger, suspicions.

Glirdan, I think wilwa is misrepresenting, which makes me uneasy about wilwa. She is probably most familiar with how Glirdan plays, and yeah she always seems to suspect him, but this time feels a bit sinister. As if she's using it for cover to get a lynch.

I also find it odd that he suspects Elf-Warrior toDay, then next post says Morsul doesn't look bad enough to vote for, and then votes for Morsul who he says is the only person he is suspicious of.

That's a rather rough generalization of what Glirdan's said. He's been consistant in feeling uneasy about Morsul from Day 1, because of his vote. The two posts from Glirdan I think she's referencing:

I'm still quite leary of Morsul, but he hasn't said much today for me to vote him. TEW has made a slightly reasonable argument in his defense for his vote...but I still believe he warrants watching. #110
He actually seems to have been somewhat appeased by TEW's defense. So to say he goes from only suspecting TEW today, then suspecting Morsul but doesn't think it's enough for a vote, but votes for Morsul is "only" suspect, is just not right:

Oh I really hate doing this this early, especially since there has been barely any actual chatter toDay, but I have to vote like now seeing as I know I will not be back for DL....So, I'm going to go with the only other person I have any real suspicions on:

++Morsul #116

Possible innocent misread by wilwa, but I do think she's spinning a Glirdan = guilty tale that just isn't correct. He actually backed away from suspicion of TEW, and voted for the person he seems to be the most uneasy about so far. The consistancy and "fall back" vote for Morsul, could be suspicious, but that's not wilwa's reason for voting Glirdan. Her reasons are quite wrong when looking at Glirdan's posts.

Glirdan looked like his typical pressed for time waffling what to do self.

Edit: probably crossed, this post went longer than what I thought when I first started.

Edit 2: Bold is my emphasis.

[Glirdan]

Well I guess this will probably mean bye bye me

[Boromir88]

Well I guess this will probably mean bye bye me

Do you want to go bye bye? Speak quickly.

[Glirdan]

Not at all

[Macalaure]

Who do you want to bye-bye, Boro?

[The Elf-warrior]

I'd like to confirm that I changed my mind about Rikae before the turning of the DAY. However, I'm starting to suspect her again.

Here are my thoughts on the other sailors.

Inzy: His arguments against me make sense (mostly.) I'm not sure about him.

Nerwen isn't raising my alarm bells.

I think BG is innocent and I agree with Wilwa's statement that worrying about how other people will view one's vote isn't necessarily fishish.

Rikae: Seems to have a bit of a tendency for misunderstanding. I wouldn't rule her out as being a wolf. I'm inclined to take Inzy's side over her.

Mac: His lastest post seems genuine.I'm tentatively inclined to call him innocent.

Glirdan: His attacks against me seem genuine to me. I say he's leaning innocent.

Wilwa does make a good argument for BG's innocence. However, one can be a fish and still make cogent points. Boromir88 makes a good case against Wilwa.

Boromir: Leaning toward innocent.

Morsul's admission of tunnel vision seems genuine to me.

Shasta: I don't know.

I'm gonna go

++Wilwarin

[Boromir88]

Who do you want to bye-bye, Boro?

++Morsul

[Boromir88]

Not at all

If you live you'll have to explain that tomorrow. ASAP.

[Glirdan]

Will do

[Macalaure]

++Glirdan

I do suspect him a little, after all, unlike Morsul. Maybe it's the late time, but I suddenly get an impression of wolf-Boro trying to rescue wolf-Glirdan.

[Glirdan]

DANGIT!! NOOOO!!! Get Wilwa, final words and one of the three above is innocent

[Macalaure]

Couldn't have gotten Wilwa. She: 1, you 3.

[Paranoia]

Glirdan -> Morsul
Morsul -> Blind Guardian
Wilwa -> Glirdan
Inzil -> Glirdan(2)
Blind Guardian -> Glirdan(3)
Shasta -> Blind Guardian(2)
Rikae -> Morsul(2)
The Elf-Warrior -> Wilwa
Boromir -> Morsul (3)
Mac -> Glirdan (Came in after deadline had passed, therefore void. )

~~~~In which there is more (human) Bloodshed~~~~

Another day stuck out at sea.

Another vote for an accursed monster of the deep.

Another dead Ordo.

Something better'll be coming in the morning. Right now I've been sort of looking at this half asleep at the keyboard and half not; probably not the best time to write a story. Unless you want said story to be about magical fluffy bears soaring through clouds and punching Cthulhu in his left eye.