WW XC: Lord of the Rings 2: The Quest For More Money

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I wondered why you and Shasta weren't pursuing your usual Werewolf love story. That was one of the reasons I chose him. :p

[Nerwen]

It's funny how, out of all the innocent villagers there were, I picked our seer Nerwen to frame as a wolf. It's wonderfully convenient. :p
Yes, it was. Are you gloating already, Wolfimer?

EDIT:X'd with Eomer.

[Galadriel55]

Also, Ranger, who'd you protect? Either way, we've got two Wolves in the bag and you can protect yourself toNight. Since this is becoming the game of reveals, apparently...

Is it wise for the Ranger to reveal, though?

[Eruhen]

Boro, Bom, Shasta, you around? Your heads are on the line here, too, and it'd be nice to hear from you.

And both Galadriels, you're right. It's probably not wise for the Ranger to reveal. Lots of people gonna need protecting toNight, regardless of how toDay goes down.

[Nerwen]

I wondered why you and Shasta weren't pursuing your usual Werewolf love story. That was one of the reasons I chose him. :p
After half a Day to concoct an explanation for all the holes in your story, that's really the best you can come up with?

EDIT:X'd with Eruhen.

[autume98]

Wow. Just, wow. I'm speechless.

Is this the game of the reveals? Three reveals by Day 3 - and at least one fake?

Seeromer has a case against Seerwen, and she against him. One of them is a wolf. I won't exclude the possibility that both faked. Eomer's claims are more bold, and easier to prove. Nerwen complicates things. She revealed three innocents. How do we know she's not a wolf calling random innocents innocent? And picking Zil is just too convenient. On the other hand, this might be simpy unlucky and nothing wolvish.

Trust Eomer means trust Bom and not trust Nerwen&Shasta. Trust Nerwen means trust Eruhen&Boro. While I can kinda trust (as much as one can trust in WW) the people they call innocent, I don't know about our Seers.

To know for sure, we could lynch one of them. But that would mean a 50-50 chance against the real Seer: too big of a risk IMO. Lynch Shasta, as he's the only "?known wolf?" that didn't reveal yet? If Eomer is not really the Seer, this would still backfire on him...

I'm in agreement here. A lot has been going on. I like the idea of lynching Shasta toDay. This way we will know who the real Seer is. At this time I'm leaning towards Eomer as Seer and Nerwen as wolf.

[Galadriel55]

At this time I'm leaning towards Eomer as Seer and Nerwen as wolf.

I'm not leaning anywhere. I feel like they are playing tug-of-war with me instead of the rope. :(

Why me? Why did I even join this game? I'm just an ignorant hobbit, and my brain is starting to steam!

[Eruhen]

Question for Lottie about the rules:

Does the Hunter show as gifted or ordo for the Seer? edit: I read through the Rules thread, and it seems a little vague.

kthxbai

[Galadriel55]

The trouble is, from my point of view this was obviously an attempt by Eomer of the Wolfirrim to salvage something from having stuck his neck out so far to get McCaber lynched– people making false Seer-reveals usually don't expect to survive long, they just want to do as much damage as possible to the village in the meanwhile, like flushing the real Seer, or getting an innocent killed, or just causing maximum confusion. So by lynching Shasta, we're basically giving this round to the wolves– Eomer would have known all along that once either of his "wolves" died, he was finished.

The problem for us simple ordos is that you might be doing the very thing you're describing. We can't prove that you are the Seer. But we can see if Eomer is telling us the truth. To check that, I'd rather lynch a potential ordo than a potential Seer. That's why I think lynching Shasta is out best option for toDay.


I can see why Seeromer would choose to dream Nerwen&Shasta, but for that same reason Wolfomer could have chosen to "reveal" them. They are just too good at WW. If he's the Seer, he gets rid of two dangerous wolves for us. If he's a wolf - he gets at least one dangerous ordo out of the way.

Edit: xed with Eruhen

[Galadriel55]

Question for Lottie about the rules:

Does the Hunter show as gifted or ordo for the Seer?

If you're asking in order to question Nerwen's reveal, she called Boro "innocent", without describing a specific role.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

What do you think about G55's idea then, Nerwen? Lynch Shasta today? No danger of the Seer being killed? Immediate answers to all our questions? :)

[autume98]

The problem for us simple ordos is that you might be doing the very thing you're describing. We can't prove that you are the Seer. But we can see if Eomer is telling us the truth. To check that, I'd rather lynch a potential ordo than a potential Seer. That's why I think lynching Shasta is out best option for toDay.

This is why I think we should lynch Shasta toDay as well. We can the prove if Eomer is the real Seer.

Edit: x-ed with G55 and Eomer

[Eruhen]

Re: G55:

I know that Nerwen called Boro an 'innocent'. However, since he's already self-revealed as the Hunter, if she could see his Gift, why bother hiding it?

[Galadriel55]

Re: G55:

I know that Nerwen called Boro an 'innocent'. However, since he's already self-revealed as the Hunter, if she could see his Gift, why bother hiding it?

Maybe just a slip. Dunno. Nerwen knows better. :)

[Galadriel55]

This is why I think we should lynch Shasta toDay as well. We can the prove if Eomer is the real Seer.

We also determine Nerwen's role with this. So...?

[Nerwen]

The problem for us simple ordos is that you might be doing the very thing you're describing. We can't prove that you are the Seer. But we can see if Eomer is telling us the truth. To check that, I'd rather lynch a potential ordo than a potential Seer. That's why I think lynching Shasta is out best option for toDay.


I can see why Seeromer would choose to dream Nerwen&Shasta, but for that same reason Wolfomer could have chosen to "reveal" them. They are just too good at WW. If he's the Seer, he gets rid of two dangerous wolves for us. If he's a wolf - he gets at least one dangerous ordo out of the way.

I know I should just agree to lynch Shasta to save myself, but realistically I'll only get one more dream anyway, and I'm really not sure who to pick now. Besides, as I said, it would mean Wolfimer's entire gambit has succeeded. (I really doubt Shasta's likely to be a wolf– False Seer do sometimes sacrifice one of their packmates for credibility, but that doesn't seem to fit the set-up here.)

[Boromir88]

Boro, Bom, Shasta, you around? Your heads are on the line here, too, and it'd be nice to hear from you.

What did I miss...how's my head on the line here? Granted, I wouldn't be the most terrible choice, if you want my head today, Shasta will be coming with me. Although, I'd prefer just to take the direct route of lynching Shasta.

I'm in agreement here. A lot has been going on. I like the idea of lynching Shasta toDay. This way we will know who the real Seer is. At this time I'm leaning towards Eomer as Seer and Nerwen as wolf.

Yes, especially since he's departed on to a grand trip overseas. Although this would mean another day of a Nerwen/Eomer seer battle most likely. Unless Nerwen would like to get noble as I can always hunt her during the night. I'll pick you up at 9, shall we call it a date? :p

I may be kicking myself as Nerwen says, because it's not like I've been terribly and horrible wrong about seer reveals before. But having been a seer before (seems like Eomer's taken from my book ;)), Eomer's rationale makes sense and it looks like the wolves have spent the night concocting a story to sow doubt.

I have to admit, it's actually a pretty convincing story by Nerwen, not at all what I was expecting, but a fraudulant story nonetheless.

To G55, don't sweat it, at this point one of them is obviously lying. All you can do is choose who's more believable, if you're wrong, you're wrong. No big deal. Kick yourself a few times and move on, my history is full of being horribly wrong and erratic (ergo look at my Day 1, and that's not even the worst of it.) There will always be the next day to correct whatever we manage to screw up.

Actually, after how Day 1 started, I'm impressed how well we've performed, when it's all said and done. Usually we lynch the Seer on Day 1 more than any other role it seems. And, well it's Day 3 and all the gifteds are still alive.

[Nerwen]

Eruhen– "innocent" covers both gifteds and ordos. It's often better not to get too specific.

[Eönwë]

Then Nerwen is a wolf as well, since she claims Boro to be innocent. This theory doesn't make much sense to me. Either Eomer is the only wolf out of those four, Nerwen&Shasta are wolves, or Eomer, Nerwen, and Shasta are all guilty. Or, Nerwen, Shasta, and Boro.
I said this before the Nerwen reveal. And what if Nerwen and Boro are wolves, but not Shasta?

Or even Nerwen and Eomer? Now that would be impressive.

As for who we should kill, yeah, I think Shasta is the best option. Better to lose someone who could either be a wolf or ordo than wolf or seer. Though, of course, he'll probably reveal as Ranger and then we'll be totally stuck...

[Nerwen]

My internet is dying, so I'm going to have to vote now.

++Eomer of the Rohirrim.

Please lynch him. Good night.

[Boromir88]

I said this before the Nerwen reveal. And what if Nerwen and Boro are wolves, but not Shasta?

I think there's been ample enough time for someone to counter my hunter reveal, if I'm not really the hunter, don't you think?

I wouldn't hold your breath to wait though, because Nerwen has decided to challenge Eomer's seer claim. Shasta can't be the hunter because he saved my neck on Day 1.

Seeing as I believe Eomer, if the hidden 3rd wolf would like to say they're the hunter. Let's send this game away in a blaze of glory and fake reveals. That'll be fun and LottieMod approved.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Haven't read all the way through, but I did catch Eruhen's post.

Is this the right thing to do? Probably not (my hands are shaking as I type this), but:

I'm the Ranger. Basically, run.

I did protect Eomer last Night, and am now debating whether to protect myself (and take the chance that the wolves will go after Eomer first, leaving me open tomorrow Night) or somebody else, taking the chance that the wolves value killing me over the Seer.

EDIT: x'd with Boromir88.

[Galadriel55]

To G55, don't sweat it, at this point one of them is obviously lying.

Or both, in which case we're screwed either way.

All you can do is choose who's more believable, if you're wrong, you're wrong. No big deal. Kick yourself a few times and move on, my history is full of being horribly wrong and erratic (ergo look at my Day 1, and that's not even the worst of it.)

Good advice. But, like I've said before and Eonwe quite recently, I prefer a debatable ordowolf to a debatable seerwolf.

There will always be the next day to correct whatever we manage to screw up.

We have 11 people. Three are wolves. Three innocents to equal that number. That leaves us with 5 innocents to die before we lose. It means - toDay, toNight, toMorrow, toMorrowNight, and the Day after. It would be great if there will be another Ranger save, but it cannot be relied on. So technically we have 3 Days to get a wolf. And we can get one - or two - in 2 Days.

If we take the worse case scenario, where we lynch innocent Shasta and there is a kill at Night, then we are left with 6 innocents and 3 wolves. Lynch Eomerwolf and a kill at Night again. That makes it 5 innocents and 2 wolves, which means 3 innocents (one of which is a Night kill) to lose before we lose, or two Days to get another wolf.

Pretty risky. But is there a better way? Certainly, if Eomer is the Seer, life becomes much easier, as we can get two wolves in two consecutive Days, and we'll have some room to breathe. But false hope often proves more fatal than false suspicion...

Edit: xed with Boro, Nerwen, and Bom

[Galadriel55]

I'm the Ranger. Basically, run.

:eek: Not another reveal! I hope it's not another false reveal! If it is.. *faints*

[Eruhen]

Well, if it turns out we have a Wolfomer on our hands, guess we found the third Wolf...

[Bom Tombadillo]

And who, pray tell, would be the first one in that case? (or did I miss/forget something?)

[Eönwë]

I'm the Ranger.
Well, you definitely gave enough hints on Day 1...

[Galadriel55]

Well, you definitely gave enough hints on Day 1...

As well as

So . . . either the wolves planned for the Ranger protecting the fake-revealing Eomer and attacked one of their own,

...toDay.

For now, I'll say I trust Bom. But I don't think it was a good idea for him to reveal... :(

And if I trust Bom, I trust Eomer, because that's whom Bom says he protected last Night.

Soooooo, I'm back to lynch Shasta! :rolleyes:

[Shastanis Althreduin]

It's certainly a good thing this hotel has free wifi. Eomer and Bom would have gotten away with it otherwise. I happen to be the real Ranger - I protected Boro last night.

[Bom Tombadillo]

That does seem to be the only thing to do toDay, doesn't it?

I'll be back in a position to play in about three hours, by the way.

EDIT x'd with Shasta. Liar!

[Boromir88]

I know I should be taking this more seriously, but I can't. I'm dying of laughter.

[Galadriel55]

It's certainly a good thing this hotel has free wifi. Eomer and Bom would have gotten away with it otherwise. I happen to be the real Ranger - I protected Boro last night.

So you say that Eomerwolf had the luck to frame TWO gifteds? Oh, yes, very likely.

Edit: xed with Boro.

I know I should be taking this more seriously, but I can't. I'm dying of laughter.

I know how you feel. :D

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Bom, don't protect yourself tonight. The wolves have to kill me. Protect someone else, and then you will be free to protect yourself the following night.

[Galadriel55]

We should officially call this game The Revels of the Reveals! :D

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

So you say that Eomerwolf had the luck to frame TWO gifteds? Oh, yes, very likely.

:D

A valiant effort, but it's all turned to absurdity for our dear Nerwen and Shasta. :smokin:

[Boromir88]

:D

A valiant effort, but it's all turned to absurdity for our dear Nerwen and Shasta. :smokin:

Well stranger things have happened. I should tell you about the time I got Fenris-lynched in Lommy's village. There's a good story of insane coincidences.

I'm also wishing there was a cobbler in this game, he/she'd be having a field day.

[Galadriel55]

I'm also wishing there was a cobbler in this game, he/she'd be having a field day.

To have a third Ranger or Seer reveal? :D But by Eru, it would have been hilarious!

*lungs can't take it anymore. Dies* :D

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Hotel does not in fact have free wifi. Probable last post from me. I will say that this is hard to do from a phone.

++Eomer

Hopefully you believe me. I'll be protecting Nerwen tonight, obviously. I protected Boro because after Eomer's last minute scam I thought it likely Boro would be hunting me and thus a perfect wolf target as he'd be useless, and I was right. The night Inzil died I was protecting Nerwen, of course.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

So you say that Eomerwolf had the luck to frame TWO gifteds? Oh, yes, very likely.

Edit: xed with Boro.



I know how you feel. :D

Last post, phone dying.

Just as likely as Eomer "dreaming" two wolves, one right after the other, no?

[Boromir88]

Last post, phone dying.

Just as likely as Eomer "dreaming" two wolves, one right after the other, no?

Oh come on Shasta, I've done that twice and your record seering isn't terrible. It's not so unbelievable, don't try to pull that one passed me. ;)

[Folwren]

Ah...I've read everything. As I said, internet is spotty to nill, to say the least.

I am terribly confused. Let me see if I have this right -

YesterDay, Eomer revealed that he was the seer by saying that Nerwen and Shasta needed to die.

Last Night, the wolves attempted to kill somebody and were rebuffed by the ranger.

ToDay, Nerwen says that Eomer is bluffing and SHE is the seer...

Bom says he's the ranger and protected Eomer.

Shasta then pops up and says he's the ranger and protected Boromir...

Brilliant. And unlikely. Well, obviously. Someone's lying, 'cause we can't have two seers and two rangers.

I'm going to do more indepth reading and see what I can figure out. Time is short, though.

-- Foley

[Galadriel55]

Ok, I accept that there is a possibiliy that Eomer is lying - as unlikely as it seems. However, only the death of one of these people can prove and disprove all our theories: Eomer, Nerwen, Shasta, and Bom. Two claim to be Rangers, and the other two - Seers. The question is, which two? The other two are hence wolves. Either we'll be lucky and get a wolf toDay and another toMorrow, or get one toMorrow and the other the next Day.

Edit: xed with Foley

[Folwren]

Ok, I accept that there is a possibiliy that Eomer is lying - as unlikely as it seems. However, only the death of one of these people can prove and disprove all our theories: Eomer, Nerwen, Shasta, and Bom. Two claim to be Rangers, and the other two - Seers. The question is, which two? The other two are hence wolves. Either we'll be lucky and get a wolf toDay and another toMorrow, or get one toMorrow and the other the next Day.


The problem is that if we kill the WRONG one today, we kill either a seer or a ranger. :eek: That'd be bad.

[Galadriel55]

I meant to say this in my last post but forgot to: our biggest question right now probably is if we'd rather lose a Ranger or a Seer.

Edit: xed with Foley. You are correct in that. I'll try looking for some evidence on them.

[Folwren]

I may or may not be on a little later to post and vote. I better be back to vote. :(

-- Foley

[Bom Tombadillo]

I'm back early! Yaaaay!

I'd say we can better afford to lose a Seer; not just because I'm one of the potential Rangers, but because if we kill the Ranger, the real Seer dies toNight anyway.

[Galadriel55]

...Starting wit Bom! (I'm not quoting all the posts, just the ones that draw my eye)

His first post is a Ranger hint right off:

But I suppose it's my job to protect you idiots. Ah well.

But he denies it here (probably having second thoughts about so obvious a clue):

*ahem* AS I was going to say before I was rudely interrupted by myself (several times, even!) my mind seems to be on the more, as Nerwen says, talented actors. (translation: it seems like anybody and everybody is dropping hints that they're Gifted. Including, in retrospect . . .



myself). So you'll excuse me if I make a few incautious comments about such.

"my mind seems to be on the more, as Nerwen says, talented actors" - such as Seers.

Then comes the Hunter vs Ranger debate.

Then Bom voted Boro, which is a switch from Shasta. I find this interesting, but I can't make anything out of it.

Day 2

Then he's happy that people call him weird (weird=gifted?).

Then this:

I still can't think what I can do to prove my innocence to the rest of you at the moment. If people are convinced that I'm a wolf, there's nothing I can do to change their minds (unless something extraordinary happens).

Anyway, while I hate that I'm on the target list there, Eomer is making sense.

This post drew my attention for some reason. I can kinda see this as a paraphrased version of "I still don't want to reveal. You won't believe me anyways, until maybe I'll save someone at Night". But that could just be my imagination seeing clues where there are none.

Then Bom votes for McC "because Eomer's reasoning made sense".

Day 3

So . . . either the wolves planned for the Ranger protecting the fake-revealing Eomer and attacked one of their own,

This is definitely a clue that Bom protected Eomer.

Then he agrees to lynch Shasta so that we have at east one known wolf.

Then he reveals.


...aaaaand Shasta!

Doesn't like Bom from the first post

Says

No, I won't. There's no reason to do such, if you're innocent.

Will likely vote Bom today.

...in response to Bom saying that he'll make some incautious gifted comments

Then appears only to vote Glirdy to save Boro. Interesting.

Day 2

Then attacks me and Eonwe for not helping him save Boro.

Questions Eruhen:

I personally suspect both Bom and Cabbie, but Cabbie seems much more suspicious. Bom just seems like Bom, but Cabbie has said nary a thing all game and nothing all Day. If I don't hear a good defense of his vote for Zil yesterDay, he's getting my vote toDay.

Which is just like McCaber - he's always a submarine. You can't use that reasoning for Bom and not use it for McCaber as well (I know you haven't played with McCaber before, but still.)

I really don't understand how McCaber can be "much more suspicious" than Bom when all he's done thus far is vote for Inzil.

Keeps justice?

Then votes me.

Day 3

Reveals and votes Eomer.




I'm sorry, Shasta, but as much as I tried I couldn't see and Ranger clues in your previous posts.

Stay tuned for the Seers...

Edit: xed with Bom. I see your point here.

[Boromir88]

I'd say we can better afford to lose a Seer; not just because I'm one of the potential Rangers, but because if we kill the Ranger, the real Seer dies toNight anyway.

Makes sense to me.


Then Bom voted Boro, which is a switch from Shasta. I find this interesting, but I can't make anything out of it.

Meh, from my perspective, there's nothing to make from it. I didn't like some of the things Bom posted. I got abrasive, Bom fired back and thus revenge voting ensued. After the night to sit on it, I didn't think anything of it. As will be revealed all in good time, I actually hunted McCaber first night, because I found his vote the most out of place. And thus the next day was more willing to see Bom was possibly getting set up. Granted we got McCaber wrong, but at least, I believe right about Bom. He's not a wolf (but he's not the seer or hunter either :p).

It's just coincidence that possible wolf Shasta was the other person he was considering voting for on Day 1.

[Eönwë]

our biggest question right now probably is if we'd rather lose a Ranger or a Seer.
On general principles, the answer would be Ranger. The Ranger has to guess who to save based on the Day's discussion. While the Seer can guess wrong and dream an Ordo, they still get the knowledge that the person is an Ordo, while if the Ranger guesses wrong they have no effect. The main aim for the Ranger is to protect the Seer once they've revealed, and they rarely save anyone else.

On the other hand, in this game, it's much more complicated. If Eomer is telling the truth, then it's likely that the wolves went for him, hoping the Ranger would bluff and protect him the toNight. If this is the case, then Eomer will get killed toNight, so it wouldn't seem too bad to kill him now instead, as he won't get to tell us his dream anyway.

However, if Eomer is a wolf, then either they hoped the ranger would protect Eomer and voted for one of their own (very risky, and I don't know if it's really allowed-Lottie?), cementing Eomer as an almost known seer, as it would seem an unlikely option. On the other hand, this means that the wolves are unlikely to kill Nerwen, as it would prove them wrong, so if this is the case she is safe.

However, if Nerwen is the Seer, then the ranger could still protect her toNight, in which case it might be better to attack neither of the rangers...

I don't know, there's too much to consider...



The fact that both Rangers claim to have protected Eomer makes it seem more likely that he was saved, which in turn makes it more likely that he's either actually the Seer or an Ordo masquerading as one, for whatever purpose.

Also, though we have all our gifteds, I think the wolves are winning. At the moment, the worst case scenario means that we could end up losing both the Seer and the Ranger toNight.


On the other hand, it could be that all the reveals so far are ordos, or at least half of them, in an attempt to stop the real gifteds counter-revealing on claims that might actually have been made to protect the real gifteds in the first place. There are just too many possibilities to consider.

[Eönwë]

I'd say we can better afford to lose a Seer; not just because I'm one of the potential Rangers, but because if we kill the Ranger, the real Seer dies toNight anyway.
You make a good point, I didn't consider that. You're probably right.

[Boromir88]

The fact that both Rangers claim to have protected Eomer makes it seem more likely that he was saved, which in turn makes it more likely that he's either actually the Seer or an Ordo masquerading as one, for whatever purpose.

Just quick correction Eonwe. Shasta claims as ranger he protected me last night.

[Eönwë]

New approach- The Pros and Cons of lynch-candidates:


Eomer- Claims he's the seer.

Pros:
- If he is proven to be the seer, then we have two known wolves, and also know the identity of our Ranger.
- If he is a wolf, we know who the seer is.
- If he really is not a wolf, it's most likely that he'll die tonight.

Cons:
- If he is the seer, we've lost our seer.
- If he is the seer, then the wolves will kill our ranger as well (assuming one of the revealers is a wolf).
- If he's a wolf, we don't know the identity of the ranger, and we have no known wolves from the seer (but the latter is just hopefulness, and shouldn't actually be considered in the same terms).

[Eönwë]

Just quick correction Eonwe. Shasta claims as ranger he protected me last night.
Ah, I must've been carried away with that post. I shall need to reconsider.

[Galadriel55]

- If he's a wolf, we don't know the identity of the ranger, and we have no known wolves from the seer (but the latter is just hopefulness, and shouldn't actually be considered in the same terms).

But we have a known wolf Bom who claims to have protected Eomer.

And I like your new approach! Seems a very effective way of summing things up!

[Eruhen]

By Nahal, what a mess!

Just when I thought I had things figured out, some yahoo tosses a wrench into things...

Need to make sure I lay my axe at the root of the right tree.

[Eönwë]

Nerwen- Claims to be the seer

Pros:
- If she turns out to be the seer, we'll gain two known innocents.
- If she is a wolf, it makes it likely that Shasta is too.
- If she is a wolf, we know Eomer's the seer. And though he won't live until toMorrow, we'll at least have the Ranger and another known wolf.

Cons:
- If she's the seer, we lose our seer.
- If she is the seer and we don't kill her now, she could stay alive until tomorrow because the ranger can protect her.
- If she is the seer and we kill her, the wolves can take out the ranger toNight without fear of being dreamed.

edit: Con: If she's a wolf, we don't know who the ranger is.

[Eönwë]

But we have a known wolf Bom who claims to have protected Eomer.
Unless they risked it all and actually voted for one of their own. Is this allowed Lottie?



edit: but yeah, he would practically be a known wolf, as that seems very unlikely. Just want to cover all possibilities.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Tum as Frodo
Foley as Sam
Sally as Merry
Eomer as Pippin
G55 as Fredregar Bolger
Shasta as Legolas
Eruhen as Gimli
Eonwe as Boromir
Boro as Gandalf
Bom Tombadillo as Tom Bombadil
Nerwen as Galadriel

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Let me see.

Eomer - Seer
Bom - Ranger
Boro - Hunter

Nerwen - Wolf
Shasta - Wolf

And considering the interaction with Shasta & Nerwen yesterday, I think the following are probably innocent:

G55
Eonwe
Eruhen

Which leaves our last wolfy as Tum, Folwren or Sally.

I say it's Sally. :p

[Eönwë]

Bom- Claims to be the ranger

Pros:
- If he is the Ranger, it is almost certain that Eomer is not a wolf.
- If he is the Ranger, it's very likely that Shasta is a wolf
- Together, these heavily would imply that Eomer is the seer, and so we'd also have a likely second wolf.
- If he is a wolf, we almost certainly know that Shasta is the ranger, which means that Boro is an innocent.
- If he is a wolf, we know Shasta is the Ranger, which them means that Eomer is a wolf too, which means that Nerwen is the Seer and so we also have two known innocents.

Cons:
- If he is the Ranger, we've lost our ranger.
- If he is the Ranger, the wolves can easily kill the true seer as well.
- If he is the Ranger, we still can't be certain who the seer is.

[Galadriel55]

Nerwen shall be first.

*coughing fit* You know, I don't think this is quite the time to be critiquing another actor's, er, talents, do you?

In response to Bom talking about Gifteds.

Then she disappers for the rest of the Day.

Day 2

Her opinion on the votes:

Steve gave no reason; G55 voted Sally as a "submarine". That's common enough for emergency votes– but indeed, you'd think people who were simply trying save a claimed gifted would go for someone else who already had votes. I suppose they might have lost track, though.

EDIT:X'd with G55.
EDIT2: Correction: Steve voted for Sally, and G55 for Eruhen, both as "submarines".

Then this post:

Back again. Sorry for not being around– I just wasn't able to get to a computer for most of the day.


This is true– through a frame can't be ruled out either. Still, I think it's pretty safe to assume that *if* the wolves in fact killed him for being "Seer-ish" it would have been because of his comments on one of those two.


Why, though? G55's last post looks quite bad to me, actually.

EDIT:X'd with Eruhen.

After this she questions Eruhen for a few posts, before voting him:

Eruhen, I believe this is your first game, so sorry if this is all just you trying to get the hang of things. All the same, the amount of backtracking and seeming evasiveness in your recent posting really does not look good.

Day 3

... is mostly spent arguing against Eomer and trying to prove that she is the Seer, and then votes for him.

While Nerwen never directly accuses anyone of wolvery and always has a careful neutral tone, she just leave any stronger evidence that would point to her as the Seer.



aaaaand Eomer!

His first posts are not very important, and anyways are undeciferable. :p

Seem to remember fowk latching onto Bom's, shall we say, daring playing style in the last game. He'd be a great bold wolf because now I'm thinking it's just his style.

Just a post I thought worthwhile to quote, as Bom claims Ranger...

Eh... Fitiver's gan on here will mak for some good readin' imorn. That's why I leave Bom and Boro.

There's probably a wolf who's said nothing other than character posts yet, so I'll pick one of them. Back in a minty.

Combined with this:

Sally fits the criteria (oh wow, I never find her suspicious or anything... :rolleyes: ), as does Glirdan. I'm totally aware that I myself fit my own criteria of not adding anything to the discussion....

...until now

Sorry Glirdan, but just not enough from you today. And the first vote is always a safe one. Chances are you're a busy innocent but, because no-one else is really jumping out at me, you're acting the conservative wolf.

This being the second vote in the game, I won't put too much stress on this, but people have questioned it.

Day 2

First post:

Sorry Glirdan. Not the best choice I could have made.

And Inzil deid? The immediate thing to take from this is suspicion of McCaber and Bom.

Eonwe and G55 seem likely innocents to me. Not sure, of course. Certain others look suspicious too; I'll try to go through it in more detail later.

"The immediate thing to take from this is suspicion of McCaber and Bom" - looking for the last wolf, it seems. Though can't really be considered evidence in favour of Seering.

Interesting thought. Presuming that Boro is the Hunter, the wolves might consider him safe to leave. He's not the seer; if no-one touches him, he can't use his power. But is this ignoring the point that he's a potential known innocent? Probably better to kill off the hunter at the start of the game if you can, so it's more likely he'll have no idea who the wolves are and he'll hunt an innocent.

Yes, they might be counting on us lynching him, but this is pretty risky.

At this stage, chances of catching the Seer are not high. This means I see three options:

1. Boro is a wolf, playing us for fools.

2. Boro is innocent; wolves seriously believe Inzil is the seer.

3. Boro is innocent; wolves not sure about Inzil but, rightly or wrongly, choose to ignore Boro.

I believe option 3 suggests wolves who are not thinking very carefully. And I think it's the less likely option.

I don't see how option 1 would aid the wolves in any way. The real Hunter could appear at any moment.

Option 2 is the most likely. So we lynch one of Inzil's targets today. Bom or McCaber.

"He's not the seer" - obviously, since he claims to be the Hunter. But the sureness with which Eomer says that...?

Some posts in between, and:

++MCCABER

Because of Inzil's vote. Otherwise, I can't see why the wolves would have killed him. Willing to give Bom the benefit of the doubt for now, although would not be opposed to his lynching.

Then encourages others to follow suit, as he is curious about McC's role. And then he showers us with clues.

Don't worry, Boro. I think the Ranger is going to get a good hint today.

Eonwe, G55, Eruhen all probably innocent. I think Bom is innocent too.

Yeah, it almost feels lame doing it like this, but...

Pfft! You are suspicious when you are acting wolfish and being caught in the act by the seer.

(with Eruhen's reply - "That's certainly interesting, Eomer, especially considering how last game turned out.")

What worries me is that maybe none out of the Boro-McCaber-Bom trio are wolves, and that the actual wolves are hiding more sneakily.

Two of them certainly are.

Again, the sureness.

Ach...

Kill Nerwen AND Shasta with fire! And then kill their ashes!

Ranger - Protect! ^^

One more post about bing curious about McC.

Day 3

Tries to uphold his status as Seer, continues accusing Nerwen and Shasta, and says Bom is the Ranger.



From here, I say Eomer is more believable.

Edit: xed since my last.

[Eruhen]

So, so far, we have:

?Seerwen? --> Eomer
?Shastanis Rangerduin? --> Eomer

No surprises there, seeing as he tapped both of them yesterDay.

[Galadriel55]

I'd say we can better afford to lose a Seer; not just because I'm one of the potential Rangers, but because if we kill the Ranger, the real Seer dies toNight anyway.

I think it's a good point, and considering this and Eonwe's Pros&Cons we should be able to decide on a candidate, and NOT have a four-way tie. :eek::rolleyes:

[Eönwë]

Shasta- Claims to be the Ranger

Pros:
- If he's the Ranger, we know that Bom isn't and so is probably a wolf.
- If he's the Ranger, we know that Eomer isn't the seer and is probably a wolf.
- If he's the Ranger, Boro is almost certainly innocent.
- If he's a wolf, Bom is most likely the Ranger, in which case Eomer is at the very least innocent, in which case Nerwen could be a wolf too.

Cons:
- If he's the ranger, we lose our ranger.
- If he's the ranger, our seer can also be killed toNight.
- If he's a wolf, we don't know for certain who the seer is.

[Eönwë]

Ok, I've just realised (as you can probably tell by the slight shift in my last one) that there are two situations which render my pros and cons useless:

1. Ordos have fake-revealed.
2. Both Bom and Shasta are wolves.


There's also the possibility that both Eomer and Nerwen are wolves, but I find it unlikely that the true seer wouldn't have revealed by now.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

For anyone who's still wavering, here are the options:

1. Seer-Eomer spied two wolves with his first two dreams.

2. Wolf-Eomer fake-revealed as the Seer and implicated two innocents. It turned out that the two innocents he chose happened to be our Seer and Ranger.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Have to leave now. This will surely be my last post in the game, so: good luck villagers! Get that last wolf.

++SHASTA

[Galadriel55]

There's also the possibility that both Eomer and Nerwen are wolves, but I find it unlikely that the true seer wouldn't have revealed by now.

May the Valar have mercy upon us! Not ANOTHER reveal!

Edit: xed with Eomer's vote. We'll get that wolf, by Eru we will!

[Bom Tombadillo]

Indeed!

Given Eomer's vote, I'll almost certainly be voting for Shasta, but I'll hold off on the act itself to hear more from the rest of the field (after all, voting early resulted in me going for the Hunter Day One!)

[Boromir88]

2. Wolf-Eomer fake-revealed as the Seer and implicated two innocents. It turned out that the two innocents he chose happened to be our Seer and Ranger.

In fairness to Shasta's point, with 3 wolves and 3 gifteds, the statistical probability the seer picks 2 wolves the first 2 nights, is the same probability that you fake reveal and happen to pick 2 of the 3 gifteds.

With that said, I'm still believing Nerwen and Shasta crafted a convenient story in their night time wolfy discussion and thus their story, as amusing as it is...is full of baloney.

[Eönwë]

May the Valar have mercy upon us! Not ANOTHER reveal!

Yes, another reveal. I'm the seer, and I dreamed Inzil, Nerwen and Boro in that order.

[Boromir88]

X'ed with G55 and Bom: I also fully intend to follow Eomer's vote for Shasta.

(Maybe I should get that done now and thus concentrate writing that Angband-Doriath semi final in a room of a parallel universe? :p)

[Bom Tombadillo]

Um. You're kidding, right? Please be kidding.

EDIT: x'd with Boro.

[Eönwë]

Um. You're kidding, right? Please be kidding.

Am I?

[Boromir88]

Yes, another reveal. I'm the seer, and I dreamed Inzil, Nerwen and Boro in that order.

And what did you discover about Nerwen and myself?

[Bom Tombadillo]

Yes? I hope. We don't need another reveal. Why now, anyway?

EDIT: X'd with Boromir88 . . . again.

[Eönwë]

And what did you discover about Nerwen and myself?
I dreamt that you were a... ok, ok, I'm not the seer, I was just joking.

[Boromir88]

I dreamt that you were a... ok, ok, I'm not the seer, I was just joking.

I got you now. I seriously considered saying that our lovely Mod had sent me back in time to be the super-secret Cobbler all for the heck of it, but decided some of the newer werewolfers who have joined us have had enough headaches already. :p

[Eönwë]

But the point is that by this point in the game, there have been so many unlikely reveals that it would be quite hard to dismiss anything as fake.

[Galadriel55]

With that said, I'm still believing Nerwen and Shasta crafted a convenient story in their night time wolfy discussion and thus their story, as amusing as it is...is full of baloney.

This sent me into fits of laughter all over again! :D

Yes, another reveal. I'm the seer, and I dreamed Inzil, Nerwen and Boro in that order.

So did this!

Edit: xed with a host. I see you were kidding. Good for you. :p The joke worked.

[Eönwë]

I got you now. I seriously considered saying that our lovely Mod had sent me back in time to be the super-secret Cobbler all for the heck of it, but decided some of the newer werewolfers who have joined us have had enough headaches already. :p
That would've been hilarious. And if Sally were the mod, I'd probably actually believe you too.

[Galadriel55]

But the point is that by this point in the game, there have been so many unlikely reveals that it would be quite hard to dismiss anything as fake.

All we are lacking is my Hunter reveal to complete the set.

...

...

...

...Not. :p

Boro's our only Hunter so far...

[Eönwë]

Boro's our only Hunter so far...
Do you really want to tempt fate like that? :p

[Eruhen]

*headdesk*

Oh, to hell with it all.

I'm the Were-bear, and I'll kill you all!

[Galadriel55]

*headdesk*

Oh, to hell with it all.

I'm the Were-bear, and I'll kill you all!

*dies*

[Eönwë]

I'm the Were-bear, and I'll kill you all!
That's nothing.

*Uncloaks*

I'm the Mythomaniac!

*Is the disco-king*

[Galadriel55]

That's nothing.

*Uncloaks*

I'm the Mythomaniac!

*Is the disco-king*

Well then I'm the Necromancer! And if naught else, I beat you all by post-count! :p

[Galadriel55]

I haven't laughed this hard in quite a while!

Seriously, people, this thread should be renamed as The Revels of the Reveals! :D

[Eönwë]

And if naught else, I beat you all by post-count! :p
Isn't it meant to be about quality, not quantity? :p :D


edit: fixed quote

[autume98]

I haven't laughed this hard in quite a while!

Seriously, people, this thread should be renamed as The Revels of the Reveals! :D

Neither have I. This is hilarious!!! :D I like that name. It should at least be a nickname for this thread.

Edit: x-ed with Eonwe

[Galadriel55]

Isn't it meant to be about quality, not quantity? :p :D

You shall all drown in the number of meaningless posts I wrote! ...Including this one. :p

Ok, ok. *calmes down*

Less than an hour to DL, and the best we can do is lose our heads completely and go down in a pile of craziness.

Well, on a second thought, what else is there to do if we're all pretty much agreed to lynch Shasta?

Edit: xed with Tum

[autume98]

I liked those meaningless posts. :) Very entertaining...along with all the other "reveals". I very much enjoyed.

I don't think there is much else to do except to vote for Shasta. Which we'll need to do within the next 44 minutes. Possibly 43 by the time this gets posted. ;)

[Eönwë]

Well, on a second thought, what else is there to do if we're all pretty much agreed to lynch Shasta?
Dance? Sing? Do something extremely hilarious and creative?

[Folwren]

Despite the general humor caused by all these going-ons, things look very serious for at least one person.

Having read all of the posts so far put up, I am going to have to cast my vote against Shasta. Things just don't seem to make sense, so far as he is concerned.

++Shasta

That's all I've got for today. I am very cranky about this internet access thing.

-- Foley

[Galadriel55]

Dance? Sing? Do something extremely hilarious and creative?

Oh fine then.

Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go
To heal my heart and drown my woe.
Rain may fall and wind may blow,
And many wolves be still to go,
But under a tall tree I will lie,
And let the clouds go sailing by.

Hmmm. I can do better. How about:

Sing hey! for the lynch at the close of Day
that washes the fake reveals away!
A loon is he that will not sing:
O! Wolves Lynched is a noble thing!

O! Sweet is the sound of falling rain,
and the brook that leaps from hill to plain;
but better than the rain or rippling streams
is Dying Wolf that shouts and screams!

...Ummm... that sounds a bit bloodthirsty.

Edit: xed with Foley's vote. Might as well vote too.

[autume98]

I'm going to post my vote before it gets to be too close to DL.

++Shasta

edit: x-ed with G55

[Eruhen]

Wanna rock?

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=one+does+not+simply+walk+into+mordor&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1024&bih=606&tbm=isch&tbnid=Tui4dwahBTz0AM:&imgrefurl=http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/one-does-not-simply-x-into-mordor&docid=abYM7oFS_HIZeM&w=510&h=442&ei=2jY3TtbIPMbYgQes9LSKAg&zoom=1

[Eruhen]

Also, before I forget...

++SHASTA

[Galadriel55]

Might as well, might as well.

++Shasta

I very much apologise if you're the Ranger, but the odds are against you and Nerwen in this. Your death will help us get at least another wolf, whatever betide.

Edit: xed since my last

[Eönwë]

Oh yeah, in case I miss it:

++Shasta

[satansaloser2005]

WHAT IS THIS INSANITY?!?!?!

Seriously, I have no idea what's going on, and I don't have the time or energy to figure it out tonight.

++Boro

....Because if he's the hunter and he dies, at least he'll be able to make a more solid judgement call than I can at present.


I'll review all this tomorrow and have more to offer, but for now, I'm out. :/

[Loslote]

I only just got here and I haven't had a chance to read through the thread - vote count, please?

[Bom Tombadillo]

Well, whatever the vote count turns out to be (haven't got time to do one at present), add this to it:

++Shasta

[Boromir88]

++Shasta


++Boro

....Because if he's the hunter and he dies, at least he'll be able to make a more solid judgement call than I can at present.


Awww honestly? And remember, this is for posterity. :p

[Loslote]

On second glance through the thread, I think a vote count might not be entirely necessary. ;)

[Galadriel55]

Nerwen-->Eomer
Shasta-->Eomer (2)
Eomer-->Shasta
Foley-->Shasta (2)
Tum--> Shasta (3)
Eruhen-->Shasta (4)
G55-->Shasta (5)
Eonwe-->Shasta (6)
Sally-->Boro
Bom-->Shasta (7)
Boro-->Shasta (8)

Edit: xed since #351
Edit 2: adding Boro and Bom's votes

[autume98]

Vote Count:

Eomer (2)
Shasta (8)
Boro (1)

Edit: x-ed with Lottie and G55 whose vote count looks much better than mine

[Eönwë]

Nerwen-> Eomer
Shasta -> Eomer (2)
Eomer -> Shasta
Foley -> Shasta (2)
Tum -> Shasta (3)
Eru -> Shasta (4)
G55 -> Shasta (5)
Eonwe -> Shasta (6)
Sally -> Boro
Bom -> Shasta (7)
Boro -> Shasta (8)

edit: x-ed with other two vote counts and fixed

[Eönwë]

And for my final reveal of the Day... I am The Doctor! *Opens the TARDIS and plays 'I Am The Doctor' very loudly*

[Loslote]

DL. Stop posting. Shasta is dead.

[Galadriel55]

Sally -> Shasta (7)

Sally voted Boro

Edit: sorry, xed

[Eönwë]

Sally voted Boro
You make a good point.

edit: ah, new page.

[Loslote]

As the sun rose, the cast tried to gather around the body again, but were stymied by the fact that there was no body to gather around. The milled about the set until around midday, when enough of them had ended up at the Green Dragon set to make that the agreed upon location.

"Nerwen's a wolf! So is Shasta!" Eomer said through a mouthful of lunch.

"No you are!" Nerwen said. "And I'm the seer."

"Don't be silly, I am!" Eonwe said.

"Boro's the Hunter!" Boro and Nerwen said at the same time.

"I'll be the Hunter," Eonwe offered.

"Bom's innocent!" Eomer countered.

"Eruhen is!" Nerwen said.

"I'm innocent, too!" Eonwe said.

"Not just innocent, the Ranger!" Bom said.

"Can't be; I am!" Shasta said.

"I'm the Doctor!" Eonwe said. "That's like the Ranger, right?"

"Well, now that you mention it," Sally said.

"Never mind!" Foley said. "Let's just lynch Shasta already."

"No, no, I'm still enjoying the reveals," Shasta said.

"They are fun," Galadriel55 said, barely audible over the sound of Eruhen's music-making.

"Oh, just kill him already," Tum said, picking up a couple of kitchen knives and passing them around.

"Wait, stop!" Bom said. "Don't give one to Shasta; we're killing him."

"Oh, right," Nerwen said. "Oops."

"It's alright, I don't mind," Shasta said, looking around nervously. He didn't notice the first knife being thrown, but he did notice it hitting him in the leg.

"You fools," he rasped. "You'll all die. Painfully, if you would be so kind." With those words, the cast wielded their knives more enthusiastically.

Starring

Tum as Frodo
Foley as Sam
Sally as Merry
Eomer as Pippin
G55 as Fredregar Bolger
Eruhen as Gimli
Eonwe as Boromir
Boro as Gandalf
Bom Tombadillo as Tom Bombadil
Nerwen as Galadriel

Dead

Lottie as The Director
Glirdy as Glorfindel the Ordo
Zil as Elrond the Ordo
McCaber as Aragorn the Ordo
Shasta as Legolas the Murderer

Night 4 has begun. PM to your heart's content.

[Loslote]

Once everyone else had fallen asleep, the two remaining murderers came back to Shasta's body. They covered his body with a nearby tablecloth and sat silently beside him as the Night wore on, until finally, one of them stood up abrubtly.

"Shasta's dead, and everyone else is lying in their warm little beds, all smug and happy that he's dead!"

The other murderer stood, too. "We must avenge his murder. Those who did this to him will not get away with it. They will feel our pain before the Night is out."

Stalking through the Night, the two murderers crept into the trailer of the person who'd first accused Shasta. They gagged him and tied ropes around his feet, looping the rope around a pole outside his trailer. Eomer woke sometime during this, and he tried to reach his feet to claw off the rope.

"Oh, no, I don't think so," the first murderer said.

"You and your ridiculous dreams got Shasta killed," said the other.

"We will not stand for that," said the first as the other murderer smacked his hands away from the rope. Eomer's face started to turn red.

"I think we may have tied the gag a bit too tight," commented one of the murderers as Eomer clearly struggled to breathe. "Oops."

The other murderer pulled out a piece of paper and scrawled a message on it, then pushed it into Eomer's shirt with a pushpin. The note read, "He deserved what he got. Be careful what you say. We're always watching."

When the sun rose the next morning, the cast gathered around Eomer's house. They arrived hoping he would tell them the name of another wolf, but they all stopped short upon seeing the gruesome sight in front of the doorway. They glanced uneasily at eachother as Boro read the note aloud.

"I guess it was sort of inevitable," Tum said.

"He went down with honor," Eonwe said.

"We will remember him always," Foley promised.

"How better to remember him than to avenge him?" Bom pointed out.

"We must kill the murderers," Galadriel55 said. "Now more than ever."

"They said they'd kill anyone who tried," Nerwen said, "but they'd kill us all anyway."

"Whether or not to kill the murderers is not the question," Eruhen said. "The question is, who is a murderer?"

"We've got more clues than ever," Sally said. "Come on, guys - we've got to get this right toDay."

"No more innocent deaths," Boro said. "The murder stops here."

Starring

Tum as Frodo
Foley as Sam
Sally as Merry
G55 as Fredregar Bolger
Eruhen as Gimli
Eonwe as Boromir
Boro as Gandalf
Bom Tombadillo as Tom Bombadil
Nerwen as Galadriel

Dead

Lottie as The Director
Glirdy as Glorfindel the Ordo
Zil as Elrond the Ordo
McCaber as Aragorn the Ordo
Shasta as Legolas the Murderer
Eomer as Pippin the Seer

Day 4 has begun.

[Eruhen]

Do we really need to debate about Nerwolf?

The only question now is this: Is Tum, Foley, or Sally the last Wolf? I'm going to go with Sally, seeing as she was Eomer's guess, but I'm open to debate.

[satansaloser2005]

Well, I'm back.

What's that look for? With this many people being killed, it's up to me to cover their parts!

I'm sorry about yesterDay, but there was legitimately no time for me to see who was telling the truth, so I had to go for the lesser of two stupids. I should be here solidly for the rest of the game, however, and would love to help catch the last killer.

Hey, maybe it's Foley. I even have most of her lines memorized.


Also, the ranger (whoever they really are) is in a bit of trouble....

[Bom Tombadillo]

That would be me.

And yeah, no debate necessary on the lynch toDay; this is going to be more or less a foregone conclusion.

[autume98]

I agree no debate necessary. Vote Nerwolf toDay. I won't be around much later toDay as I'll be pretty busy and won't be at home.

I'll be sure and come vote, and if given the chance I'll put in some effort to look for the third wolf.

[Boromir88]

Nerwen today. But doesn't mean the rest of the day needs to be a waste. There's still another wolf.

Good work Eomer. No fool of a Took at all! :smokin:

[Galadriel55]

Do we really need to debate about Nerwolf?

The only question now is this: Is Tum, Foley, or Sally the last Wolf? I'm going to go with Sally, seeing as she was Eomer's guess, but I'm open to debate.

No debates about Nerwen from me. I don't think she'll have any for us either - after claiming to be the Seer and all. But she'll try to mess things up for us before she goes, to give some chances to the last wolf.

About the third wolf: it's either Tum, Foley, Sally, Eonwe, and, well, You. Eomer only guessed that certain people are innocent based on the wolves' interactions towards them. As for Sally - he always suspects her. I'd be more surprised if he said he thinks she's innocent.

I shall be looking into the aforementioned people later toDay (tomorrow in RL), but my vote for Nerwen is unshakable.

[Folwren]

Eomer's guesses at the end of yesterday were mere guesses. I think it'd be dangerous to overlook the other un-proven innocents based on his guess. I am willing to be scrutinized, if it will help the other wolf to be found, but I think we should seriously look at others, too, and not just those three he named.

Like Galadriel the fifthy-fifth said, the wolf could possibly be anyone except Bom, Boromir, and Boro...and that includes her, too, which, I note, she failed to mention. :p

I didn't get much of a chance to look at Day 2 or Day 3 occurrances, but I will as soon as possible.

Definitely no question about Nerwen. That's good. It gives us more time to consider everyone else.

-- Foley

[Eruhen]

You left someone off that list.

Galadriel55.

That list doesn't give us any help, as it's obviously one of them. I'll be doing some looking tomorrow, especially at the Ringbearers and Master Holdwine.

[Galadriel55]

Like Galadriel the fifthy-fifth said, the wolf could possibly be anyone except Bom, Boromir, and Boro...and that includes her, too, which, I note, she failed to mention. :p

Yes, I could have been a wolf... if Lottie made me one. :p

However, just like you, I'm willing to have people pick at my posts, if that will help find the wolf.

Wait, did you say, Boromir and Boro? I suppose that was just a mistake. (After all, I also said that there is a chance that Glirdy is a wolf on D2... :rolleyes:)

[Folwren]

lol...yeah...I did say that. I knew something was wrong, but my brain is so foggy and my siblings were pressuring me to play Dominion with them that I was distracted enough not to figure out where it was wrong.

[Nerwen]

Well, that was fun yesterDay!:smokin:

[Nerwen]

Wait, did you say, Boromir and Boro? I suppose that was just a mistake. (After all, I also said that there is a chance that Glirdy is a wolf on D2... :rolleyes:)
Oh, but he was. Glirdywolf was originally the third member of our pack, and my treasure accidentally lynched him in a fit of absent-mindedness. (You know how it is– lynching Glirdy for no reason just gets to be a reflex action.) Naturally, we were devastated, and Lottie very kindly selected us a replacement.

Who? Well, it's up to you to guess... :cool:

[Nerwen]

You see, it was originally going to be a "theme" wolf-pack– all Elves!

[Eruhen]

Just a little vote tally for all of our unknowns from yesterDay:

Foley --> +Shasta
Tum --> +Shasta
Phil (Eruhen) --> +Shasta
G55 --> +Shasta
Steve --> +Shasta
Sally --> Boro

Make of this what you will. I see a Wolf unwilling to bus a packmate, especially since she knows that she'll be the only one left in two Days.

[Eönwë]

Ok, so we know Eomer was the Seer, and Nerwen isn't even denying her wolvishness any more.

So, before anything else:

++Nerwen


I'll be back nearer to the end of the Day to share my thoughts.

[Nerwen]

Ok, so we know Eomer was the Seer, and Nerwen isn't even denying her wolvishness any more.

Yes I am! I was framed! Framed, I tell you!:mad:

[Nerwen]

Phil?! What a giveaway. Eruhen is clearly the phantom's sock puppet!

It's the Kent2010 debacle all over again!

Am I right, or am I right?

[satansaloser2005]

Phil?! What a giveaway. Eruhen is clear the phantom's sock puppet!

It's the Kent2010 debacle all over again!

Am I right, or am I right?

Darn it, now I want to keep her around.

Oh, wait a minute....

++Nerwen

....No I don't. :p

[Nerwen]

Do you know, Steve, when I was a little wolf, I mean girl, my aunt gave me a little kit for making your avatar out of cardboard? I believe it came from the British Museum. They must think a lot of you there!

EDIT:X'd with Sally.

[Galadriel55]

Make of this what you will. I see a Wolf unwilling to bus a packmate, especially since she knows that she'll be the only one left in two Days.

Considering how many votes Shasta already got - it'd be hard not to notice them and to ignore them - it would have been better for Sallywolf to vote him too, so that she doesn't stand out the next Day. I think she avoided the wagon because she couldn't tell right off the bat if it was really a wolfwagon. We had the whole Day to think it over, but her schedule must have been hard on her. However, this does not prove her innocence in my eyes either.

I can't really say anything definite about Sally. She posted way too little. Tum nods her head in agreement but doesn't have too much of her own things to contribute. Eonwe talked more than the other "unknowns" (except for me :p), but nothing that shouts "wolf" to me. Foley seems reasonable enough when she speaks, which is rarely. And Eruhen made some mistakes on D1/D2 which Nerwolf was quick to jump on. I doubt that this was a wolf-on-wolf attack, because Nerwolf's vote came so early in the Day and there was a real risk that others would follow.

And as I said, Nerwolf is muddying the waters for us. I will plug my ears and try not to listen in order to avoid headaches toMorrow. And - while I'm here

++NERWEN


Unfortunately, I underestimated the amount of work to be done, so I won't show up for about another 6 hours. I'll be here closer to DL, though...

Edit: xed with Sally and Nerwolf

[Nerwen]

Aw, you're so mean, Sally! *pouts*

EDIT:X'd with G55.

[Nerwen]

You too, W55!

[Nerwen]

I mean G55.

Getting careless...:rolleyes:

[Nerwen]

Not that that was a slip, or anything. Definitely not.

[autume98]

I'm posting this while I have time. I can vouch that Sally has been busy. I'm not convinced that she is a wolf, but I'm not convinced she isn't one either. I'm hoping to find time later today to go back through the thread and see who feels wolfish to me.

And one last thing...

++Nerwen

[autume98]

Fyi...this is difficult on a phone, yet fun. :cool: Anyways...I decided to look at Nerwen's posts and see if I could find something. This is what I found and wanted some thoughts on this.

The first Day she votes for Eruhen. I'm thinking possibly wolf on wolf.

I'm going to have to go, and may not be back before DL.

So–

++Eruhen.

Eruhen, I believe this is your first game, so sorry if this is all just you trying to get the hang of things. All the same, the amount of backtracking and seeming evasiveness in your recent posting really does not look good.

EDIT:X'd with Eruhen.

Later on things get a little crazy with all the reveals, and she posts this:

Eruhen– "innocent" covers both gifteds and ordos. It's often better not to get too specific.

Then things are still crazy and Eruhen posts a vote count, but has Nerwen as the Seer. This seems odd to me because I don't know about you, but I was pretty sure that she was a false Seer.

So, so far, we have:

?Seerwen? --> Eomer
?Shastanis Rangerduin? --> Eomer

No surprises there, seeing as he tapped both of them yesterDay.

[Folwren]

Sorry about the general lack of talking and posts on my part. Two excuses - internet access has been uncommonly bad, and Sam wasn't in the habit of talking until spoken to, I think....just trying to stay in character. :p Not really, actually....just the first excuse is real.

I think I have a little bit of time now to post something of use.

Okay, someone's brought Sally to the fore-front for her voting yesterday. She says that she voted that way because of lack of time. But I know from my own experience that no lack of time justifies voting for someone who is probably a gifted. If she didn't want to cast her vote with Shasta, she may as well have voted against some un-known person.

At the beginning of yesterDay, she voiced that she was very cranky with Eomer for lack of action and for saying what he said, and he jolly well better prove that he was telling the truth. (I would be copying and pasting all this stuff as quotes, but I am using my dad's laptop and the touch-pad is broken, and using the shift to highlight stuff doesn't work, either, so I'm really annoyed.)

Her voting post itself states that things are insane and she doesn't understand what was happening. I...kind of find that hard to believe. I mean, if she was around to see Eomer's reveal post on Day 2, then she'd know the basis of what was appening. We know she saw his post because of her first post on Day 3. Then a simple glance over the ridiculously, fluffy posts (of which there were many yesterday) and just latching onto the important posts, or at least posts that sum something up, would have provided her with enough info to vote sensibly on.

Things don't look promising.

That's Sally. Maybe a little later I'll do someone else. Eonwe or Eruhen, maybe. I dunno. Depends on if I can get to a computer with internet. :mad:

X-ed with Tum.

[satansaloser2005]

Foley, you simply must be joking.

When I voted, I said that it was to be sure that I didn't (essentially) screw up. I'd seen Boro's reveal beforehand and believed it enough that I could vote him, knowing he would be keeping up and would make a good choice for hunt pick if he was lynched. I've suggested killing the hunter to get information in previous games, so it's hardly unprecedented. Would you prefer I chose a side at random and facilitated the lynching of the seer? I mean really. Come on now. You're talking like I voted for a revealed ranger. I voted for the hunter. They're supposed to die.

And there was no way for me to catch up and figure out which side was telling the truth; I barely had phone service yesterDay, so I had to post when I could, without the luxury of being able to look back and see what who had posted. I knew there was a reveal and a counter-reveal, but it was all so silly I couldn't keep it straight.

Sorry for snapping, but that case is ridiculous and you know it.

[Eruhen]

While I still have access to a computer,

++Nerwen

[Nerwen]

That reminds me–

++The Whole Cast.:p

[Nerwen]

What a lovely, lovely shade of blood red the highlight text is.

[Nerwen]

Really, it is making me quite thirsty.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Welp. No point in holding off toDay, is there?

++Nerwen

[Nerwen]

Since Pippin can't be with us toDay, I'd like to stand in for him with one of his favourite songs (slightly modified):

Sing hey! for the lynch at close of day
that carries the foolish ordos away!
A loon is he that will not sing:
O! Villagers' blood is a tasty thing!

O! Sweet is the sound of falling rain,
and the brook that leaps from hill to plain;
but better than rain or rippling streams
is villagers' blood that smokes and steams.

O! Water cold we may pour at need
down a thirsty throat and be glad indeed;
But better is Blood, if drink we lack,
yes villagers' blood poured down the back.

O! Blood is fair that leaps on high
in a fountain red beneath the sky;
but never did fountain sound so sweet
as splashing Hot Blood with my feet!

Dine well, my pack mate! :cool:

[Galadriel55]

Well, Nerwen seems to have taken the "at least I'll die joyfully" attitude.

Since Pippin can't be with us toDay, I'd like to stand in for him with one of his favourite songs (slightly modified):

Hey! That's my song (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=659703&postcount=344), but differently modified! You thief!

:D

[Bom Tombadillo]

All right, all right. I have a confession to make.

I'm not really the Ranger. I have a secret role: the Wereseerange-huntordo. And I get to kill everybody else once a game. Therefore:

DIE, PUNY HUMANS!

EDIT: X'd with G55. Yes, you too.

[Galadriel55]

All right, all right. I have a confession to make.

I'm not really the Ranger. I have a secret role: the Wereseerange-huntordo. And I get to kill everybody else once a game.

YesterDay all over again, ain't it?


Anyways... Tum is up first, as I have something to say about her.

She missed D1 altogether. Day 2:

I've read through all the posts, and all I can say is "wow". Seems like a flurry of crazy voting on Day 1. I will say that as I was reading them, my head was fuzzy. Colds tend to do that to my brain. ;)

I have no idea who looks suspicous at this moment. I almost get the feeling like we're going through another Day 1. Granted there's a little more to go off of, but I really don't get the sense that there is a lot to go off on.

I do apologize for not being around yesterDay. Even though I didn't have Internet access I still wish that I could have been around. I know how important it is to have people around and talking to make voting for someone much easier.

I'll have to see if I can clear my head a bit to make some more sense of all that has gone on.

No comment.

I love when I lose my work. I was getting ready to make a post when it seems like I hit the wrong key and lost my work.

In short I think it's a good idea to check into Bom and Cab. If one of them thought that Inzil was on to them, it would make sense for them to kill him.

I also think that it might be a good idea to check into the first three people who posted.

[referring to Eruhen's post:]

To me this can come across as someone just trying to come across as innocent. Then again Eruhen could just be innocent. I am going to have to think some more about this.

First paragraph - ok. Second - Tum is repeating something that was mentioned and chewed upon by many others. Third - ...meh. Ok, I guess.

I just got done looking at Cabbie's posts and there isn't a lot to go on. The only thing that there is to go on is his vote for Inzil.

Now I'm going to take a look at Bom's posts.

Ok....

#162 - looks at Bom's posts and decides that he looks more suspicious that McC based on Zil's behaviour.

#168 - votes for Bom



Day 3:



I'm in agreement here. A lot has been going on. I like the idea of lynching Shasta toDay. This way we will know who the real Seer is. At this time I'm leaning towards Eomer as Seer and Nerwen as wolf.

Again, repeats what has been said before.

This is why I think we should lynch Shasta toDay as well. We can the prove if Eomer is the real Seer.

And again, just nods her head.

Two irrelevant posts. Then votes Shasta. Then a vote tally.



Day 4



I agree no debate necessary. Vote Nerwolf toDay. I won't be around much later toDay as I'll be pretty busy and won't be at home.

I'll be sure and come vote, and if given the chance I'll put in some effort to look for the third wolf.

I'm ok with this one. There wasn't much to do except for nod at the question of lynching Nerwen, so, yeah. Nothing to pick in.

I'm posting this while I have time. I can vouch that Sally has been busy. I'm not convinced that she is a wolf, but I'm not convinced she isn't one either. I'm hoping to find time later today to go back through the thread and see who feels wolfish to me.

And one last thing...

++Nerwen

O-kaaaaay........ But again, only states opinion on Sally after others do, adding nothing new...

#389 - Thinks that Nerwen did a wolf-on-wolf on Eruhen. I must admit I don't quite follow the reasoning.


So, my conclusion? A bit too much "nodding". Could it be a wolf tryig to avoid suspicion? Or just an unlucky coincidence of comming here when everything has been said already? I don't know. I'll leave it at that for now, and see what I have for the others.

[Galadriel55]

Sally

Day 1

#26 - gets in character

#27 - more in character

Day 2

Please excuse my absence. I was mobbed by the paparazzi. I'm sure you all know what it's- Oh. Right. Never mind then.

So our intrepid Boromir claims to be the hunter then? How interesting. I don't expect anyone will contest his claims even if he is laying, so I think we should leave him alone for toDay and see what happens.

Hmmmmmmm...mmmm.....

++G55

She reminds me far too much of Wolfadriel, and I'll admit I don't have time to study the thread too closely. It's sort of a gut vote, but what I've seen supports it. Let's hope I'm right. ;)

I likely won't be back toDay, as I'll be confined to my phone and the signal is rubbish at camp. Behave while I'm gone, and don't try to steal away my loyal fans.

*poses for the cameras, walks off*

Also, we need to have a talk about this script. There aren't nearly enough opportunities for Merry to fell a troll or kick a ball in a heroic fashion. Isn't this supposed to be an action movie?

More stuff in character. As for the vote - well, gut votes are just that. I'll forgive you this time, Sally. ;)

Day 3

I've been upstaged, and I don't like it.

Eomer better provide some bloody solid reasoning for his actions (or lack of actions) yesterDay, and he better provide it quick, because I don't know why he wouldn't have said what he did earlier in the Day if he was telling the complete truth.

I can't stay, alas. My people (read, campers) need me!

Suspicions on Seeromer? It's something mutual. But could just as well be a wolf trying to save her packmates. If Sally would have succeeded in getting others to take that attitude, we'd be an extra innocent down.

Then she disappears until shortly before DL.

WHAT IS THIS INSANITY?!?!?!

Seriously, I have no idea what's going on, and I don't have the time or energy to figure it out tonight.

++Boro

....Because if he's the hunter and he dies, at least he'll be able to make a more solid judgement call than I can at present.


I'll review all this tomorrow and have more to offer, but for now, I'm out. :/

If I was a sallywolf, I would vote for Shasta. Even without the knowledge of what's going on, this would have been the safest thing to do, as then you bled in with many other people. However, sally's vote was, to say the least, out of the blue.

So, in other words, IMO this vote points more to an innocent sally.

Day 4

Well, I'm back.

What's that look for? With this many people being killed, it's up to me to cover their parts!

I'm sorry about yesterDay, but there was legitimately no time for me to see who was telling the truth, so I had to go for the lesser of two stupids. I should be here solidly for the rest of the game, however, and would love to help catch the last killer.

Hey, maybe it's Foley. I even have most of her lines memorized.


Also, the ranger (whoever they really are) is in a bit of trouble....

I have to admit I got a little lost in that simple explanation. "lesser of two stupids" - is that more IC? I don't really get that random jump on Foley, so I'll pass it off as a joke for now.

#381 - votes Nerwolf.

Foley, you simply must be joking.

When I voted, I said that it was to be sure that I didn't (essentially) screw up. I'd seen Boro's reveal beforehand and believed it enough that I could vote him, knowing he would be keeping up and would make a good choice for hunt pick if he was lynched. I've suggested killing the hunter to get information in previous games, so it's hardly unprecedented. Would you prefer I chose a side at random and facilitated the lynching of the seer? I mean really. Come on now. You're talking like I voted for a revealed ranger. I voted for the hunter. They're supposed to die.

And there was no way for me to catch up and figure out which side was telling the truth; I barely had phone service yesterDay, so I had to post when I could, without the luxury of being able to look back and see what who had posted. I knew there was a reveal and a counter-reveal, but it was all so silly I couldn't keep it straight.

Sorry for snapping, but that case is ridiculous and you know it.

Sounds fairly reasonable, even if a bit too heated.


So once again my colclusion is indefinite. Sometimes Sally looks like a wolf, and sometimes like a busy innocent.

I'll take a little break now, and then get back to analysing. I would really appreciate it if someone helped me. (Even if it's me that you analyse, if the mere look of 70+ posts doesn't scare you away :p)

[satansaloser2005]

Oh, for the love of cupcakes. I finally read (most of) the thread in its entirety, and am dying of laughter. This has been truly inconceivable, and I've missed most of it! :(



Things I know:
Nerwen: wolf
Shasta: wolf
Eomer: seer
Bom: ranger
Boro: hunter
Sally: ordo


Things I think:
Eruhen: new kid, leaning innocent
Tum: quick to validate my absence, which could be either innocent or an attempt at camaraderie with an innocent so I don't suspect her
Foley: misguided, possible wolf by virtue of making a ridiculous case, but likely not
Steve: possible wolf (lack of vibes)
Galadriel: possibly innocent, although I still have a definite niggle of suspicion


Gah. That didn't really help me much. I'll have to look a bit closer when I have time later on. However, at the moment, my top suspects are Steve and Galadriel.



Or, you know, Nerwen could just cave and tell us. That would be lovely.

[Galadriel55]

Well, I looked at Foley, and it seems to me that there's nothing to analyse. All my comments end up sounding like "fair point" or "reasonable enough".

For now, though....:

Oh, for the love of cupcakes. I finally read (most of) the thread in its entirety, and am dying of laughter. This has been truly inconceivable, and I've missed most of it!

But you haven't missed the best part of all. It is now high time for me to tell you all that I am the real moddess in this game. Let the Revels continue! *hides behind a trailer before Modlote can modfire her*

:D

Gah. That didn't really help me much. I'll have to look a bit closer when I have time later on. However, at the moment, my top suspects are Steve and Galadriel.

I can see why you suspect me, and kinda-see why you suspect Eonwe...

Or, you know, Nerwen could just cave and tell us. That would be lovely.

And I would believe her with all my heart and put faith in her words. :rolleyes: :p

She already called me a wolf. You would believe her in this one, right? ;-)

[Folwren]

Sally, I wasn't really joking, no. I was just observing it from my point of view. I would not have behaved as you did.

Not much activity today, huh? I just got back from the dentist, so you can imagine how I feel.

Nerwen, really? A spin off of Peregrin's bath song? That's just disturbing and gross. I am REALLY not into this whole gory, bloody stuff.

I haven't voted, yet, have I? Better deal with that.

++Nerwen

[Galadriel55]

Really? No one? There's just a bit over an hour left of the Day, and everything is so quiet.

Maybe it's because most people voted early for Nerwolf, who, I'm sure, is having lots of fun watching us debate over the 3rd Wolfeteer. Stop laughing at us, you evil Hound of Sauron! Your minutes are numbered!

:D ;)

[Loslote]

But you haven't missed the best part of all. It is now high time for me to tell you all that I am the real moddess in this game. Let the Revels continue! *hides behind a trailer before Modlote can modfire her*


And I am the last wolf. :Merisu: :p

[Folwren]

Maybe it's because most people voted early for Nerwolf, who, I'm sure, is having lots of fun watching us debate over the 3rd Wolfeteer. Stop laughing at us, you evil Hound of Sauron! Your minutes are numbered!

:D ;)

I doubt she's laughing. She's facing the noose (or worse options). It's probably the third wolf that's laughing.

Either that, or shaking in his boots.

[Galadriel55]

I doubt she's laughing. She's facing the noose (or worse options). It's probably the third wolf that's laughing.

Either that, or shaking in his boots.

Or her boots. And she's laughing when facing the noose because she knows it's unescapable and just wants to have a few more moments of fun. See her posts toDay for proof.

:smokin:

Anyways, I'm glad you're around. Seems like the first time that half an hour before DL doesn't bring a shower of posts...

[Eönwë]

One other thing: Bom, if you really are the Ranger, then what are your opinions on people?

[Galadriel55]

One other thing: Bom, if you really are the Ranger, then what are your opinions on people?

And Boro the Hunters?

[Eönwë]

And Boro the Hunters?
That's more dangerous for him to divulge because then it's easier for the wolves to know when not to kill him.

I mean, it should be ok if he gives general thoughts, but he can't get too specific about who he finds most suspicious.

[Galadriel55]

That's more dangerous for him to divulge because then it's easier for the wolves to know when not to kill him.

I mean, it should be ok if he gives general thoughts, but he can't get too specific about who he finds most suspicious.

True that. But we'll probably hear neither toDay... Getting late!

[Loslote]

DL - stop talking.

[Eönwë]

True that. But we'll probably hear neither toDay... Getting late!
Definitely not now... I suppose I should've thought of that earlier...

edit: ah, x-ed with the Moddess

[Loslote]

After pulling down Eomer's body and dropping it into a bottomless pit, the cast circled around Nerwen.

"What?" she asked innocently.

"You killed him," Sally said.

"Don't be silly," Nerwen said.

"We'd have to be silly to let you live," Foley said.

"How should we kill her?" Eonwe asked.

"I'm partial to blood," Nerwen said.

"That's disgusting," Galadriel said.

"But oh so much fun," Nerwen said.

Tum shuddered. "Thank goodness we caught her when we did," she said. "Poor Eomer!"

"Poor us," Boro said. "There's one more actor here who isn't what they seem."

"It's Eruhen!" Nerwen said. "He's The Phantom."

"You mean he's dead?" Bom asked.

"No, no," Sally said. "The Phantom, not a phantom - and we shouldn't listen to that murderer!"

Nerwen laughed, and kept laughing, even as the rest of the cast broke branches from off the trees in the Old Forest set.

"Oh, you're in trouble now," Nerwen said. "The trees will get you - or at least my fellow murderer will!"

The cast poked her with branches until she walked into the river from the Buckleberry Ferry set. They used them to keep her underwater until she stopped moving, and then a little longer, just to be sure. They let the body wash downriver, unwilling to give a murderer an honorable burial.

Starring

Tum as Frodo
Foley as Sam
Sally as Merry
G55 as Fredregar Bolger
Eruhen as Gimli
Eonwe as Boromir
Boro as Gandalf
Bom Tombadillo as Tom Bombadil

Dead

Lottie as The Director
Glirdy as Glorfindel the Ordo
Zil as Elrond the Ordo
McCaber as Aragorn the Ordo
Shasta as Legolas the Murderer
Eomer as Pippin the Seer
Nerwen as Galadriel the Murderer

Night 5 has begun.

[Loslote]

Narration to follow - I got on late by accident (reading a book, time got away from me, you know how it is ;) ). I won't tell you who died yet. It's just too good to tell in any way other than a narration. :p

[Loslote]

That Night, the last murderer crept out of bed and followed the river downstream untilit flowed under the iron fence around the set. When a quick scan didn't reveal Nerwen's body anywhere, the murderer was forced to admit that the body was lost, and a proper burial couldn't happen. All the more resentful of the rest of the cast, the murderer walked back towards the trailers and stopped in what was basically the center, looking around.

"Eenie, meanie, miney, mo," the murderer said, pointed between the different trailers. "Pick an actor by the toe. If he hollers, kill him slow. Eenie, meanie, miney mo." After a pause, the murderer added under his/her breath, "I think I just creeped myself out..."

But, creepings aside, the trailer - and thus the victim - had been selected. The murderer went to kick in the door, hestitated, and used the doorknob instead - no reason to alert all the rest of the cast at the same time. The murderer crept over to where the victim was sleeping and threw a pillow over Boro's face, unaware that Boro had taken to sleeping with a knife on hand.

Foley gasped as Boro's knife dug into her belly. "You...you murderer!" she whimpered.

"Oh, you're one to talk," Boro grumbled.

Foley slumped against the wall opposite Boro.

"My only question is, why'd you do it?" Boro asked, sitting up. "You had to know we wouldn't take it lying down."

"You...were...lying down," Foley gasped. "All of you were...when we killed you."

"Not the point."

"The...Director told us to."

"So you killed her?"

"She's not dead. We never killed her. She helped us...fake her own death. You were the first ones to...kill anyone."

"But we weren't the only ones. You killed too."

"Out of...self-preservation," Foley gasped out, her face starting to turn white. "And...revenge."

"So we're all murderers," Boro said. "But here's the difference...we're murderers who survived."

Foley glared. "How...dare..." her mouth opened and closed, but she couldn't muster the air to talk - she could barely breathe. Instead she closed her eyes, pulled the knife from her stomach, and flung it at Boro. She was aiming for his head. She hit his throat.

When the rest of the cast found the two bodies the next day, they also found the Director sitting nearby, carefully avoiding the blood-stained walls, floor, and sheets.

"Well done," she told them. The cast started blankly at her. "You won," she said. "And the show got tons of viewers - enough to justify a Season Two! Your acting carrers will, I'm sure, recieve a sizeable boost from your stint here. Now run along home."

"So this wasn't real?" Galadriel55 finally asked.

"Oh, no, it was real," the Director said.

"The public is okay with everyone dying?" Sally asked. "Glirdy, Zil, McCaber, Eomer - no one cares that they're dead?"

"Not really," the Director said. "They're used to watching violence. Most of them probably didn't even notice that we didn't say 'no one was harmed in the making of this show'."

"We'll tell them. You'll never get your Season Two. You'll go to jail!" Eruhen said.

"And you'll go to jail for killing Glirdy, McCaber, Shasta, and Nerwen," the Director said. "Run along, now. The gate's open. Go have nice little lives or some such. Enjoy your victory."

"It's a pretty hollow victory!" Eonwe protested.

"Then enjoy your survival," the Director said. "I don't really care what you do, just go do it."

And they did.

Starring

Tum as Frodo the Ordo
Foley as Sam the Murderer (Night 5)
Sally as Merry the Ordo
G55 as Fredregar Bolger the Ordo
Eruhen as Gimli the Ordo
Eonwe as Boromir the Ordo
Boro as Gandalf the Hunter (Night 5)
Bom Tombadillo as Tom Bombadil the Ranger
Glirdy as Glorfindel the Ordo (Day 1)
Zil as Elrond the Ordo (Night 2)
McCaber as Aragorn the Ordo (Day 2)
Shasta as Legolas the Murderer (Day 3)
Eomer as Pippin the Seer (Night 4)
Nerwen as Galadriel the Murderer (Day 4)
Lottie as The Director

Village wins.
Wolves lose.

The End.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Boro FTW! I'm glad I didn't protect you. :D

[satansaloser2005]

BAM. THAT IS ALL.

I already glomped Boro via text, but I wanted to congratulate all the other innocents as well. :D


P.S. Bom was an ordo? ;)

[Loslote]

P.S. Bom was an ordo? ;)

Oh, thanks! Fixed.

[Galadriel55]

Foley?! I'd never believe that! That's it! I'm not sining up for your game!...

...Or, actually, I am.


You know, Lottie, when you posted that you had to write a narration, I thought that it was a scene where Bom Rangerdillo stopped the last wolf from committing suicide! :eek: :D


Eomer, from now on you'll never ever be on my "ordo" list. Either wolf or gifted. Amazing Seering this game!


Boro, how on earth did you guess it was Foley? Another eenie-meanie-miney-moe?

[Inziladun]

Nice job, village, especially the Gifteds! :D
Something told me to stay away from Boro and Bom on Day 1. Hence, the last-minute vote for McCaber.

I'm interested to know if it was my Seer hints that led to my demise. As an ordo, I don't tend to be terribly useful to the village, in my judgment, so I thought I'd try something new and see if I could bait them into killing me at Night, thus sparing the really useful people for a bit longer.

I think it's funny that Shasta and Nerwen were wolves together, after all the mushy pet names they throw toward each other every game. :p

Thanks for modding, Lottie. Great concept!

[Galadriel55]

Boro FTW! I'm glad I didn't protect you. :D

Who did you protect the last 2 Nights? A random person and yourself?

[Loslote]

You see, it was originally going to be a "theme" wolf-pack– all Elves!

All blonde elves, actually - the original pack would've been Galadriel, Legolas, and Glorfindel. But then it occured to be that it would be way fun to make Sam a wolf. :p

[Bom Tombadillo]

Well, let's see . . . Night 2 was you, Night 3 Eomer (just a bit too early, unless I'm getting something mixed up), Night 4 me, and Night 5 you (again).

EDIT: x'd with O Great and Bounteous Modlote

[Galadriel55]

Well, let's see . . . Night 2 was you, Night 3 Eomer (just a bit too early, unless I'm getting something mixed up), Night 4 me, and Night 5 you (again).

I feel special. :Merisu::p

[Galadriel55]

On a more serious note, though, I have to tell you my true role now. Lottie, without realising it, made me the secret fourth wolf! :eek: I win! :D

The Revels of the Reveals to Really Ruin the Respiratory System!

[satansaloser2005]

On a more serious note, though, I have to tell you my true role now. Lottie, without realising it, made me the secret fourth wolf! :eek: I win! :D

The Revels of the Reveals to Really Ruin the Respiratory System!


No worries, village. I'm the secret second hunter. I'll take care of this. :p

[Bom Tombadillo]

Waitasecond. How are you lot still alive (you may recall that I, as the Wereseerange-huntordo, killed everybody) . . . ZOMBIES! Quick, get the flamethrower.

[Boromir88]

Oh man. Great combined effort by the villagers and gifted. Good things happen when the gifteds aren't lynched, that's for sure.

Again, I was entirely too snarky on Day 1 there Bom. My aggravation was, not wanting to be lynched when I didn't have a pick on Night 1 and already having 1 vote from Glirdan. Day 1's are such a mess to get through, so entirely random it can really effect the outcome of the entire game, especially with our marvellous ability to lynch seers Day 1.

Speaking of seers, could not have had this win without you Eomer. No doubt about it.

Hunts-
Night 2 - McCaber
Night 3 - Shasta
Night 4 - Nerwen
Night 5 - Folwren

The days of the 2 "known" wolves I had considered taking a shot on someone else, since it would be likely Shasta and Nerwen would be getting lynched. However, I figured if I did that, and it just so happened the wolves killed me, and then if I chose wrong. That would be a real mess the next day. Especially with the way the wolves were spinning stories. I could picture it happening in my head. "See Eomer's lying, if I was a known wolf, Boro would have hunted me. He's dead I'm not, lynch Eomer!" I did not want to do anything crazy and make it hard on Eomer, so just stuck with who I believed were the known wolves on the off chance they had decided to kill me earlier.

Seriously wolves, you were spinning some great stories. There was a a good moment there where I was thinking "Nerwen's right, I'm going to be kicking myself. Eomer's so full of it." But in all these matter of reveals, in the end a choice has to be made. You just choose who you believe more. If you're right, yay. If not, go back and fix it the next day, and that's all you can really do. (If you don't know things like the Seer and wolves do).


Boro, how on earth did you guess it was Foley? Another eenie-meanie-miney-moe?

I had actually been considering posting this before yesterday, but forgot that working til close meant I would not be around for DL. It's probably a good thing, as it may have effected whether Folwren wanted to risk killing me or not. Basically the post was going to look something like...

"I'm thinking Sally, because Eomer says she's guilty. But then she says she's innocent, and sally finds it absolutely impossible to lie...so she's gotta be?

Eonwe has been such a big help organizationally and thoughtfully, but then again he seems very involved and I can see him trying to manipulate the situation to make everyone feel good about him.

Folwren looked the most frustrated by what was happening with Nerwen and Shasta. Kind of like, she was not happy to be doing it, but she had to go along and lynch her compadres anyway."

It was pretty much down to those 3, because Bom was the ranger. And with the way Nerwen went after Eruhen, I was fairly confident he could not be the 3rd wolf.

I had not detected an ounce of evil in G55 at all. But who knows what I would have thought had Eomer not revealed? Because I was feeling really good about Shasta after he saved me, but that changed in the 2 seconds it took me to read Eomer's reveal post.

Last but not least. Lovely lovely game Lottie. I needed to get back to this, if only for a quick, simple game. Those can often times be the best. :)

[Galadriel55]

Speaking of seers, could not have had this win without you Eomer. No doubt about it.

Definitely.

Seriously wolves, you were spinning some great stories. There was a a good moment there where I was thinking "Nerwen's right, I'm going to be kicking myself. Eomer's so full of it."

Funny thing, these were my very thoughts! Until Shasta revealed, at least. After that, I got hyper from laughing too much, and had to go over the thread later (when I was more calm) to recall what nonesense I posted. And nonesense it was!

You probably know this already, but I'll tell you anyways. I am an insane psychopath. This is the first true reveal I've done this game. :D

Last but not least. Lovely lovely game Lottie.

Seconded! I absolutely loved the amusing narrations!

[Bom Tombadillo]

I am an insane psychopath.

Ahhh. I do enjoy being among kindred spirits. :D

Incidentally, how was anybody ever fooled by these subpar wolves? Especially Folwren.

We come to . . . kill them.

:eek:

[Nerwen]

Nice job, village, especially the Gifteds! :D
Something told me to stay away from Boro and Bom on Day 1. Hence, the last-minute vote for McCaber.

I'm interested to know if it was my Seer hints that led to my demise. As an ordo, I don't tend to be terribly useful to the village, in my judgment, so I thought I'd try something new and see if I could bait them into killing me at Night, thus sparing the really useful people for a bit longer.
The answer to that is... both yes and no.;)

We didn't actually think you were the Seer, but we knew if we killed you, it would look like we did, thus framing Bom and McCaber.

The really irritating thing in all this is that my jewel wanted to kill Eomer on Night Two, but due to timezone problems and so forth, it ended up being you.

[Boromir88]

Incidentally, how was anybody ever fooled by these subpar wolves? Especially Folwren.

:eek:

That's pretty unfair to say. To dream 2 wolves in 2 nights is getting slapped with the most unlucky situation possible. 1 wolf that a seer reveals is in a hard enough spot, let alone 2 of them. It's easy to say that in hindsight, but it's a whole different game if Eomer is killed before he gives out any info.

It sounds like he basically did the same thing I did when I dreamed 2 wolves in the first 2 nights. By sheer luck, I dreamed Kuru night 1 and then Fea made the comment "I love Kuru." Saw that was strange, and just like that stumble upon 2 wolves. Then the 3rd one goes the next day, it was a clean sweep. It was a tough tough pack, that made it very hard to get the 3 lynched. But it happened because I dreamed of two of them right off the start. It happens, if there is such a thing as werewolf gods, they're not cruel, because the strange quirks usually wind up balancing out over the spread of games.

And as far as Folwren. She was in even a more difficult situation having to try to cut down on the known/revealed innocents while surviving to the very end. It's got nothign to do with how they performed, they just kept getting smacked down by the hand of misfortune and trying to play the hand that was dealt to them.

[Inziladun]

And as far as Folwren. She was in even a more difficult situation having to try to cut down on the known/revealed innocents while surviving to the very end. It's got nothign to do with how they performed, they just kept getting smacked down by the hand of misfortune.

I'll say. I'm fairly certain that anyone who's been a wolf a few times has experienced that: a game where your side just can't seem to catch a break. I know I have.

[Bom Tombadillo]

. . . I was joking, you know. You might note that the quote below that statement had massive amounts of text cut out from in between the two halves to make it sound like Foley was declaring her guilt.

[McCaber]

Man, that was not enough werewolf to satisfy me. Still, it was a blast to read.

Also, I now feel justified in my self-righteousness, seeing as how the instant my back was turned you all joined forces to kill off your star power. Your minor talents felt threatened, and I don't blame anyone for that but myself for letting it happen.

[Glirdan]

..........................................I have nothing to say.........................

Well, not entirely true. Yay Boro!! :D

And the narrations were wonderful to read Lottie. :D

Good game for everyone who survived. Foley, really well played until the end my dear :)

[Eruhen]

Frankly, that was one hell of a first game for me! Great job, everyone, and I'm looking forward to sharpening my WW skillz (and, hopefully, eventually, my fangs :smokin: ) in future games with all of you!

[Folwren]

I could just cry. That is SO not fair. :mad:

I must congratulate my worthy opponents.

I still don't think it was fair. And I felt I was playing so well, too.

Boromir, I don't like your explanation. I wasn't acting unhappy, I was acting business like. I don't gloat over my victims, even as a wolf.

Man. I hate losing in this game. There is indeed no other game (except RISK) that I get so upset about losing.

Good game, though. Tip of the hate to Boro and Eomer.

My fellow wolves were fun to play with, too. :) Nerwen and Shasta were fun as fellow wolves and very good at mentoring, as I believe this is my first game as a wolf.

Excellent game, Lottie. I enjoyed it.

-- Foley

[satansaloser2005]

Foley, you did pretty well until yesterDay, when I pegged you based solely on your post about me (especially your later reply). I suddenly knew you were the last wolf, but of course saying so would have got me killed, and....well, you know what happens to the village when I die. I simply couldn't take the risk. :Merisu:

I was looking forward to making a case against you toDay though. Bummer. :p

Either way, you baddies had some tough luck. I'm surprised the game went as long as it did (which wasn't even very long). You performed admirably, especially the Nerwen and Shasta show. Best. Thing. Ever.


*nuzzles everyone*

[Galadriel55]

I still don't think it was fair. And I felt I was playing so well, too.

You were! At least, from my perspective. I would never have thought you're the wolf!

You know, I think that the only "fair" part of WW is Day 1. :p

I know how you feel. Last game, I was left all by myself as a wolf by Night 4, and I knew I was dreamed, but I couldn't kill Seeromer (it was him that game too!) because he voted me every Day.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Congratulations villagers, and a massive nyah-nyah to the wolves. :p

Kidding: you guys performed admirably. I will echo whoever said that some games you just can't catch a break. I've been in that position as a wolf and it's not so fun!

Thanks to Loslote for a fun game. That's, I believe, three times in a row I've been the Seer, after never being one for about 5 years! :D

[Nerwen]

I could just cry. That is SO not fair. :mad:

I must congratulate my worthy opponents.

I still don't think it was fair. And I felt I was playing so well, too.

Boromir, I don't like your explanation. I wasn't acting unhappy, I was acting business like. I don't gloat over my victims, even as a wolf.
It's not that. From what Boro's said, it was close to a random choice– but he's a very experienced player, and may have picked up on some subtle unconscious reluctance on your part. Or maybe he just got lucky. Don't feel bad about it– you did play really well, especially considering the strain you must have been under.

Man. I hate losing in this game. There is indeed no other game (except RISK) that I get so upset about losing.
Look, one has bad luck, sometimes. I should be more annoyed, actually– it's been more than two years since I've lost a game as a baddie!:mad:

Good game, though. Tip of the hate to Boro and Eomer.
A Freudian slip, I presume?;) Indeed, this game definitely belongs to the gifteds.

As I told you to begin with, what I was most afraid of was that the Seer would be one of the "old guard" (and would dream Shasta or me on Night One "just in case"). But the Hunter as well! It's fate, I tell you...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I said as much to Loslote that first night: I can never get a read on Nerwen, so I thought I'd do the sensible thing this time.

It does not surprise me to learn that Shasta wanted to kill me ASAP. :p

[Inziladun]

That's, I believe, three times in a row I've been the Seer, after never being one for about 5 years! :D

Henceforth you shall be known as Seeomer. ;)

[Eönwë]

A Freudian slip, I presume? Haha! :D
Henceforth you shall be known as Seeomer. ;) YES!

But seriously, great game everyone!

Of course, we could've never done it without our gifteds. So thank you Eomer, Boro and Bom for leading us to victory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjhC7sAaU5c).

Wolves, you played well, even though all the odds were stacked against you, and at one point I almost I almost started to doubt the seer-dreams. So yeah, well-played.

And to all my fellow villagers: Do the wave for Boromir the Disco King!


And I'm still astounded that my random guess of two under-the-radars turned out to be the dreamed wolves.

[Folwren]

A freudian slip? Nah. Truly a typo. I don't hate them, just the fact they won. ;)

My HAT is off to you.

[autume98]

This was a really great game to play. I enjoyed it thoroughly. :) I especially liked that we won!

Lottie I enjoyed reading your narrations. I especially liked the whole LoTR theme. As a Reality TV junkie, I liked the ending as well.

Great job Eonwe, Bom, and Boro. That was some really good playing there.

Foley, you did a good job as the last wolf. It's a good thing Boro was the Hunter and not me, cause I doubt I would've picked you.

And I really liked the spin that Nerwen and Shasta came up with. That made the game even more interesting.

Great game everybody! :)