Game Thread: TIG XCII - Disaster by the Lake

[Kitanna]

Lottie, I reread your post. Sally's name was bolded at the start of a new line so I misread what you said was actually about G55. That certainly makes me rethink my position on you.

Shasta:
Post 1: Says he will look at Agan.
Post 2:Agan evidences suspicion of me (for being sneaky), but all day her main target was Lottie. The only thing she said about Inzil was in regards to defending Nogrod. Since the only reason I can see Agan voting Inzil is to save Nog, I find it interesting that the very first thing Agan says starting Day 2 is "I am torn about Nog" (which is a far cry from the absolute trust she had in him Day 1) but doesn't go on to explain why, really.
He sums up his observations and quotes with this little bit about Agan.
Post 3: Says "I knew it" in response to Nog's "Agan is the cobbler."
Post 4: Agrees when Lottie says Agan should be the lynch candidate, hardly a surprise.
Post 5: Votes Agan.

Agan is now a proven innocent and Shasta was very wrong. But looking at his break down of Agan, I don't feel like he's particularly evil. His case against her doesn't look forced, but more like an innocent trying his hardest to find a wolf.
Today he's voted Bom and he's leaning toward an innocent Sally. Other than that there hasn't been much.

Green
Shasta
Sally

I don't think Sally's a wolf, a false reveal when she was in no danger isn't something I see wolf-Sally doing.
Shasta, though wrong about Agan, did seem genuinely suspicious of her and made a compelling case, too bad it was wrong.

Yellow
Greenie
Nog
G55
Nerwen
Lottie

I won't have the chance to review Greenie's others post, so my suspicions for yesterday still stand.
Nog, he's guilty of something. Wolvery or cobberly, I'm leaning more toward the latter.
I just don't know what to think about G55.
Nerwen hasn't said much that stands out to me, she could be the submarine wolf.
I did have Lottie in the red until she pointed out that I misread her post. She stated being busy on Day 2, but she did answer the questions I asked about her choices yesterday. I don't like her reasons that "they were just posting suspiciously though"

Red
Bom

Bom was too quick to trust Sally today. He's been a submarine for sure. As an innocent I almost always see him jump all over trying to defend himself when the slightest bit of suspicion falls on him. Now he's suddenly so cautious and quiet? I don't trust that.

[satansaloser2005]

I slept through a good portion of the day, and then I refreshed the Downs....and killed the post I'd been working on before.

I think Bom is our best bet for toDay. His reaction to my reveal was too eager, possibly opportunistic, and he's acting like a Bom!cub.

Galadriel and Nerwen had fair reactions to my reveal, but I think an innocent Nerwen would have simply shook her head and moved on. Instead, Nerwen brought it up repeatedly, doubting what was a clear reveal and trying to dissect my motives when there was next to no reason for me to make such a reveal if I were evil. (Also, I would expect an innocent Nerwen to be more understanding of my mistake, which she wasn't and, I believe, still isn't. It seems like staged upset at my mix-up.)


EDIT: x'd

[Kitanna]

++ Bom

I need to vote now because I feel like my friend might not like it if I highjack her computer during her birthday party to vote.

[satansaloser2005]

I need to vote now because I feel like my friend might not like it if I highjack her computer during her birthday party to vote.

Cake fixes everything. :Merisu:

Have fun, peaches. We'll kill wolvies while you're gone. :)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Mmm. Kit looks opportunistic as all get-out now. The fact that Bom gets jumped on as soon as I vote him also has alarm bells going off extremely loud.

[Loslote]

I don't like this Bomwagon that's springing up. We need to get a wolf toDay, and I am not at all convinced that Bom is, in fact, a wolf. I'd be much happier with maybe a Nog or G55. I feel like "he's a submarine" is a really poor argument for lynching someone this late in the game, especially when there's so much riding on this lynch.

EDIT: xed with Shasta

[satansaloser2005]

I'll be happy to lynch any of the three I mentioned in my last post*. What say the rest of you?



*Or rather the post before last. You know, the one that wasn't about cake.

[Nogrod]

This sudden interest in lynching Bom makes me quite worried... Had you asked me on whether to lynch him on D1, I might have supported the idea just on principle. But now as the numbers have dwindled I'm not too happy with what I see. It looks like too random an idea right now - but convenient for the wolves if he's innocent...

Shasta, Kit, Galadriel and Greenie top my list now (I would not be surprised if Nerwen or Sally were wolves either - and well, why not Lottie to involve you all), but I must admit that anything I say now is built up on very weak considerations as I have not been able to concentrate on the posts toDay...


PS. Darth Vader is dying just now... I might be able to concentrate in a moment. ;)

PS2. I'm afraid we (Greenie & I) will have some problems with sharing the connection now as we only have one mobile internet-stick and changing it does seem to take time...


EDIT: X'd with the last three it seems...

[Nogrod]

Okay.

Shasta, Kit and Sally are suggesting we'd lynch Bom as I see it (the two first ones have actually voted and Sally goes saying he's our best bet).

I would really like to hear why.

We're in dire straits and we can't afford being blindly walked to lynch an innocent by the consensus of the wolves...

Which does not mean I'm positive about Bom's innocence, but it does mean I do wonder this sudden agreement on a person who has been weird, yes, un-productive, yes, and whatever...

Handing the net to Greenie...

[A Little Green]

Bom, is it? Not the worst idea in the world I guess, though I'd still prefer Nog. Anyone up for that?

Sorry to be so ridiculously brief, I'm running out of time here.

[Galadriel55]

So I'm feeling good about G55 and Sally

*Shoves a bucketful of apples at Shasta* as long as you use them for the good of the village, they're there!


Suspicion list:

GUILTY
Nerwen. Don't like how desperately she wants sally ot of the way.
Nog. Impersonating the Seer. Most likely cobbler.

INNOCENT (ish)
Sally. I trust her.
Shasta. He looks like an innocent who tries to do his best, and really he did even more than other innocents with that Aganalysis, although it turned out wrong. It did not come out of nowhere.

Unknown
Everyone else.

With that I have to run.

++Nerwen

Edit: xed with Greenie.

Edit 2: Good luck, village! You'll need it! Just keep your eyes open.

[satansaloser2005]

Bom, is it? Not the worst idea in the world I guess, though I'd still prefer Nog. Anyone up for that?

Sorry to be so ridiculously brief, I'm running out of time here.

I'm still wondering whether he's wolf or cobbler, and I'm not willing to take the risk toDay.


EDIT: x'd with Galadriel

[Loslote]

Bom, is it? Not the worst idea in the world I guess, though I'd still prefer Nog. Anyone up for that?

Sorry to be so ridiculously brief, I'm running out of time here.

I'd prefer Nog, myself. I'm not at all convinced by the arguments against Bom, whereas I have suspected Nog, off and on, for the whole game.

EDIT: xed since the post I quoted

[A Little Green]

I'm still wondering whether he's wolf or cobbler, and I'm not willing to take the risk toDay.And you don't think that risk exists with Bom? Really?

[satansaloser2005]

And you don't think that risk exists with Bom? Really?

There's that risk with anyone, but I have more doubts about Nog. Also, Bom reads distinctly wolf to me, not cobbler.

[A Little Green]

Tally, anyone? Don't have time to make one!

[A Little Green]

Got to go!

++Bom

Just to make sure..

[Bom Tombadillo]

A quick trip to the store turned into a really long trip the store and now a trip to the movies, so I know basically nothing about anything since five except that I'm getting votes. Please don't.

++Sally

[Loslote]

++Nog

Because I do not like how quickly this Bom[b]wagon sprang up, and [b]Nog is the best suspect I have.

EDIT: xed with Bom - huh?

[satansaloser2005]

A quick trip to the store turned into a really long trip the store and now a trip to the movies, so I know basically nothing about anything since five except that I'm getting votes. Please don't.

++Sally

If you have something to say, you had better say it now, because otherwise that just got you killed.

[Boromir88]

I believe tally is...

Nerwen -> Nogrod
Shasta -> Bom
Kitanna -> Bom (2)
G55 -. Nerwen
Greenie -> Bom (3)
Bom -> sally
Lottie -> Nogrod (2)

Leaving sally and Nogrod left to vote.

Edit: Fixed, I mistook Bom's avatar for Nog's.

[Nogrod]

You're doing a mistake Lottie... but well, we all do them time by time.

But really: I hate this Bomwagon as I think it is orchestrated by the wolves and the cobbler) and now you force me to vote Bom... :(

[Nogrod]

Let's hope I was wrong again...

++ Bom

But if I wasn't... then there are quite clear tracks where to look for the culprits.

I mean, if he isn't a wolf, then clearly this was a bad time to try someone who's just plain weird in every game.

[Loslote]

A quick trip to the store turned into a really long trip the store and now a trip to the movies, so I know basically nothing about anything since five except that I'm getting votes. Please don't.

++Sally

This looks a lot more like something the cobbler would do than a wolf: not caring enough that he's about to die to try and vote someone who has a chance of taking the lynch for him. Lynching Bom is a horrible idea.

EDIT: xed since Our Beloved Mod Spake The Vote Tally Of Wisdom And Such

[satansaloser2005]

Let's hope I was wrong again...

++ Bom

But if I wasn't... then there are quite clear tracks where to look for the culprits.

I mean, if he isn't a wolf, then clearly this was a bad time to try someone who's just plain weird in every game.

Oh, bother. I was just about to ask what you thought about Shasta.

[satansaloser2005]

So Bom's dead no matter what, yes?

[Boromir88]

So Bom's dead no matter what, yes?

Looks like it

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Oh, bother. I was just about to ask what you thought about Shasta.

Love you too, dear.

In any case, here's hoping Bom was a wolf cub? I think we should look at Kit tomorrow as well.

[Nogrod]

Oh, bother. I was just about to ask what you thought about Shasta.I would have voted him over Bom any Day - but you guys set the table to lynch Bom so... someone will be looking at you guys toMorrow... unless you're right about him, that is.

But at the moment this feels like a throwaway-lynch we can't afford.

[satansaloser2005]

Love you too, dear.

Well, see, I'd been hunting you, and we could have killed me instead.

Hugs and kisses, pumpkin.

[satansaloser2005]

For the record....

++Nerwen

It's not like it matters now anyway.

[Boromir88]

Deadline. No more posting.

And seeing how this game is going, what else would Dale's cobbler be but....another village ordo.

LIVING

Galadriel55...Cook.
Greenie...Undertaker.
Kitanna...Cooper.
Loslote...Candlestick Maker.
Nogrod...Wine-maker from Dorwiniondil.
Nerwen...Town crier.
Sally...most prestigious Musician and Poet of Lake-town.
Shasta...Notable miscreant.

DEAD

Boro...King's Secretary - Night 1
Inziladun...Furrier (Ordo) - Day 1
Kath...Baker (Ordo) - Night 2.
Agan...Baker's wife (Ordo) - Day 2
Pitch...Shepherd (Ordo) - Night 3
Bom...cobbler (Ordo) - Day 3

It's Night 4. Wolves talk. Gifteds do your stuff and hope. :D

(Edit: I also swear there are actually other roles in this village...it's not my dream game of everyone's an ordo and it's last one standing :-p)

[Boromir88]

It was night and the wolves were in deep deliberation knowing that the right kill tonight would mean their victory would be inevitable. After deciding on their victim, as they had done the previous nights, the pack set out while the villagers slept.

They could never shake the feeling of the threat of watchful eyes from above. Yet, they did not know why they should feel a threat from the skies, as nothing had stopped the pack from one of their night-time feasts.

As the wolves drew closer towards their kill, a squawk was cried out and the wolves frozen where they stood looked up to see a great eagle circling down upon them. All creatures of evil feared the proud race of eagles and this was Lord of the Eagles, who was beckoned away from his mountain home to return a favor from one of its mannish friends.

The wolves did not flee immediately knowing what a successful kill would mean to them on this night. But Eagle descended onto a post by the door and blocked the wolves entry. The pack tried to rush the Windlord, but it swatted two of them away with it's wide wings. And Gwaihir latched onto the tail of the third wolf, making the wolf whelp terribly.

The caught wolf bit and clawed, desperately trying to get free of the eagle's grip. The others, appeared to have left their captured packmate to fend for itself, as they were too badly frightened and ran back into hiding. But in a last desperate attempt, the wolf latched on to just enough of the eagle's neck, to get the bird to open its beak. The wolf was free and just wait until it found the other two who had run off it thought.

The village would wake with no death, and knowing they had been saved to at least have one more day to try to change their fortunes. Maybe it was too late, or maybe, just as the great stories tell. The Eagles had come just in the nick of time.


LIVING

Galadriel55...Cook.
Greenie...Undertaker.
Kitanna...Cooper.
Loslote...Candlestick Maker.
Nogrod...Wine-maker from Dorwiniondil.
Nerwen...Town crier.
Sally...most prestigious Musician and Poet of Lake-town.
Shasta...Notable miscreant.

DEAD

Boro...King's Secretary - Night 1
Inziladun...Furrier (Ordo) - Day 1
Kath...Baker (Ordo) - Night 2.
Agan...Baker's wife (Ordo) - Day 2
Pitch...Shepherd (Ordo) - Night 3
Bom...cobbler (Ordo) - Day 3
No Death...Gwaihir save! - Night 4

It is Day 4. There is hope just yet in this cursed place. :D

[satansaloser2005]

Details. Now.

EDIT: Of both what the heck happened yesterDay (Nog) and what happened last Night (everyone, but a few in particular).

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Details. Now.

EDIT: Of both what the heck happened yesterDay (Nog) and what happened last Night (everyone, but a few in particular).

Gwaihir owes me a favor, so I asked him to watch over G55 last night. Stupid wolves.

So it's four on four, then? Today's vote will decide it all, then, so it doesn't really matter that I'm revealing. All four innocents are going to have to vote together anyway - hopefully G55 knows who the ordo is.

[satansaloser2005]

Gwaihir owes me a favor, so I asked him to watch over G55 last night. Stupid wolves.

So it's four on four, then? Today's vote will decide it all, then, so it doesn't really matter that I'm revealing. All four innocents are going to have to vote together anyway - hopefully G55 knows who the ordo is.


There's my sweet boy. I'm so sorry I didn't trust you, gumdrop. <3

[Shastanis Althreduin]

There's my sweet boy. I'm so sorry I didn't trust you, gumdrop. <3

Yeah, well, what can I say, nobody trusts us miscreants.

By the way, G55, I appreciate the apples. So does Gwaihir. He's partial to pears, too, if there are any in season.

I suppose it ought to be obvious at this point that my heart is a wolf, as well. Dearling, how could you? :(

I also suspect Kit, after yesterday. But of Lottie/Greenie/Nog I'm not for certain. I'm leaning bad on Lottie just for being so very against Bom being lynched after it was too late to change it, and Nog could definitely make for a very good cobbler... I'd like confirmation, though.

[satansaloser2005]

Since no one sees fit to join us, I shall share a special message (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGxNyzDxIbk) with you. After all, I see we'll have to entertain ourselves, and what better way to do so?

Now then, on a game-related note, I changed my pick at the last minute, and shall now kill one whom I know to be a wolf. Whom, you say? I'll tell you whom!

*drumroll*

[satansaloser2005]

And now I see that my sweet has gone quiet. Perhaps he was not pleased by my song? Then, I suppose, I shall make another, although it is too late now for me to do anything good.

What to do, what to do....

[Shastanis Althreduin]

And now I see that my sweet has gone quiet. Perhaps he was not pleased by my song? Then, I suppose, I shall make another, although it is too late now for me to do anything good.

What to do, what to do....


Oh, I'm still here, just eatin' my apple. Reveals are less fun when there's no one around to marvel.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh, I'm still here, just eatin' my apple. Reveals are less fun when there's no one around to marvel.

So, who have you protected then? Me, I had a thing for Pitch, and then of course you, trusting Agan's judgement to overcome my own laziness on that particular Day, and then, well, I nearly hunted our dear seer, though I changed in a sudden moment of clarity.

Oh, are those drums still rolling? Let me take care of that....

[satansaloser2005]

Please note: This should have been posted yesterDay, but, well, you know, things. Still, I wrote the bloody thing, and must share if only for our sweet mod's amusement. I adjusted the math and stuff accordingly, and am still, as always, the backup plan. My loves, I think you'll see what I mean if you think back toward what I have said toDay.


Previously....

“Lynches happen. Every day – don’t they, village?” And now Sally’s voice was stronger as she addressed the group, who one by one heard her words, their vote power still in hand.

The villagers were unsure who to listen to this day, and accusations would soon be flashing in their hands. “Kill the most suspicious,” they all said, advancing.

Sally gave a soft shake of her head. “No,” she corrected. “++Sally.”

It was an odd phrase, and for the moment it brought everyone up short. Besides, what was Sally's plan this time? Where was the trap? “I don’t think I quite understand that.”

Sally held her vote still but she was smiling more deeply now. “I’ll be only too delighted to explain.” It was four against four now. One day left. (There may not even be that. She did not know. He could she know it would work?)

Slowly, carefully, she began to talk....



The reveal....

“I’m going to tell you something once and then whether you die or not is strictly up to you,” Sally said. The others simply stared at her. “What I’m going to tell you is this: kill me, and if you do, then I will take a wolf with me” –she glanced at each villager in turn, finally singling in on one particular person– “and you will be without one more innocent but also with one less wolf, and you will soon be free to go about your business. And if you choose to lynch unwisely, well, then, we will not all leave alive.”

“I expect to lynch a wolf,” Sally's victim said. “I think you are bluffing – you have seen others try this trick and many times it has lead to their victory, so you must doubt that we will actually kill you.”

“Possibly true,” Sally agreed, “and when the lynch comes remember that: I might indeed be bluffing. I could, in fact be saying this because I think I will come under suspicion today, or because I think a fellow to be in danger. All that, weigh carefully.”

“You are only alive now because you said ‘++Sally.’ I want that phrase explained.”

“My pleasure.” It was four against four now. One day left. She hoped she had more. She took a long pause, then started speaking. “Surely, you must have guessed I am no ordinary musician. I am, in fact, the town bard.”

“I am, in fact, not the least surprised or awed.”

“++Sally means this: If you lynch me and I have hunted poorly, death for me. If we lynch and I hunt well, death for me. But death on my terms.”

“Meaning?” Clearly Sally was setting up a trap. Accusations were at the ready.

“There are those of you who are credited with skill as a hunter, though I find that doubtful.”

The wolf smiled. Sally was taunting her. Why?

“And if you had hunted well, then surely, when you hunted before, you must have begun with the realization that you must die. A role with such complexity ends in death and if you paid attention, you would know that that is the only way this game can end. In death. Remember this: I will kill a werewolf. And I am a bard. We have our special tricks with songs.”

It was four against four now. “I am not unfamiliar with arranging lynches.”

“The first mistake you made was killing Inziladun. Then sweet Kath, who had barely even spoken. You attempted to make Aganzir look evil on the next Day. Then, when she protested to your accusations, you killed her as well. Three ordos is a fair average.” And now Sally was beginning to be aware of statistics she had previously not thought of, the fact that even after her death, the odds would not be much better for the village, but she spoke faster nonetheless, looking at each of them again. “Next, they slaughtered Pitchwife in his sleep. Perhaps they thought he had a gift. What next? Claiming Nerwen is the seer? Not even a chance. The game would be over by now. And then toDay there will be another lynch-”

“And then we will kill you, as we killed Bom, and then the game will end in victory?” Nerwen replied. Her fur was now showing.

“Wrong!” Sally’s voice rang across the room. “You will not kill me, because I will offer myself up to be lynched – every villager who lives on will marvel at my strategy, every remaining wolf that cries ‘That Sally, she showed us all’ will reverberate forever in every post on the Grimoire. That is what ‘++Sally’ means. It means that I leave the wolves to finish the game in fear, in terror, in the realization that you were bested by me until you are lynched one by one; so there you have it, villain, there you know, you blankity-blank werewolf, and I say this now, and live or die, it’s up to you: ++Sally!”

The villagers all stared in awe.

It was four against four.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

So, who have you protected then? Me, I had a thing for Pitch, and then of course you, trusting Agan's judgement to overcome my own laziness on that particular Day, and then, well, I nearly hunted our dear seer, though I changed in a sudden moment of clarity.

Oh, are those drums still rolling? Let me take care of that....

My shining star, early on - I figured the wolves would go for a no-trace kill (and they did, just not the one I picked.) Then Greenie, due to the day's lynch. And finally G55, of course.

[Nerwen]

Hear ye, hear ye! Be ye wolf, gifted or poor lonely ordo! The plan of yon purported Hunter is a truly worthy scheme! We should all follow it immediately!

There. Bet you weren't expecting that.

My shining star, early on - I figured the wolves would go for a no-trace kill (and they did, just not the one I picked.)
Aw, precious...:Merisu:

[Galadriel55]

I wanted to make this more grand, but it has been done for me already. I am the Seer.

Night1 dream - Nerwolf
Night2 dream - Pitch (the wolves were undoing my raven's work!)
Night3 dream - Gwaihir Athreduin (but I so wanted to keep your identity hidden for at least another Day! Why did you reveal? If you hadn't I wouldn't have said this, of course...)
Night4: A Little Green Cobbler


This is fact. As true and real as the ground we stand on.

My thoughts - not fact:

Based on interaction Nog is probably the ordo.

Unless there is a legit no fooling counter-reveal, I trust sally. At the moment I have no other choice but to believe her.

That leaves me with Lottie and Kit as the remaining wolves.

But remember: these are only my speculations.


More explanations about the dreams to come when it's not 1am.

Oh, and -

++Nerwolf

There's no point in waiting.

ETA: sure, Shasta, take whatever you want from the kitchen.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Hear ye, hear ye! Be ye wolf, gifted or poor lonely ordo! The plan of yon purported Hunter is a truly worthy scheme! We should all follow it immediately!

There. Bet you weren't expecting that.


Aw, precious...:Merisu:

Silly. That's because now that we know at least one wolf there's no reason to lynch the hunter, so. :p

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Well, there's a point in at least one of us waiting - in order for the wolves/cobbler not to beat us, we've got to get the last vote in the tie. I can be here at deadline no problem, and I think Sally might be able to be as well, so the more the merrier on that account. It's good that we know Greenie's the cobbler now, as well. That pretty much leaves the last ordo to be either Nog or Lottie, so it's like this -

G55 - Seer
Shasta - Ranger
Sally - Hunter
Nerwen - Wolf
Kit - Wolf (probably)
Greenie - Cobbler
Lottie - Wolf or Ordo
Nog - Wolf or Ordo

[Nerwen]

Silly. That's because now that we know at least one wolf there's no reason to lynch the hunter, so. :p
Oh no, my treasure, clearly you haven't realised the true beauty of Sally's plan. Ah well.

[Nerwen]

Well, there's a point in at least one of us waiting - in order for the wolves/cobbler not to beat us, we've got to get the last vote in the tie.
And toMorrow, and the Day after, O he who outshines the sun. We only need to bring it off once.:p

[Galadriel55]

Another thing is that the wolves might also vote Nerwen since they know she's a gonner, to look innocent. And they'll accuse the ordo and each other - and me, most likely - of wolvery to try and divert the suspicion away from themselves.

I overslept, so no time right now for anything longer. I should be around before DL to talk a bit more and explain my previous post a bit, if you want.

[Nogrod]

Well, well... this is interesting.

More or less my top suspects turn out to be the gifteds in this game? :confused:

That and a few details (I'll come back to them later as I wish to see more first) make me a bit worried about these reveals, but then again the way Nerwen has acted toDay doesn't look too much like innocent behaviour either.

Sure: unless we have challenges to these revelations there's no need to argue against them.


Although I'd like to make one question: How did you Shasta know G55 is the seer? And how did you know Nerwen is a wolf before G55 revealed - and how come G55 had dreamt of her as well? Did I miss something yesterDay (I might have as I only skim-read the thread while we were watching the movies) or are you back to your psychic days? Or is there some other explanation?

[Kitanna]

Kit - Wolf (probably)

If I understand this you suspect me based on the fact I voted for Bom after you. Though you completely ignore the fact I laid out suspicions before you. I didn't know it was a rule that I had to declare my intent to vote for someone before voting.

[Kitanna]

Although I'd like to make one question: How did you Shasta know G55 is the seer? And how did you know Nerwen is a wolf before G55 revealed - and how come G55 had dreamt of her as well? Did I miss something yesterDay (I might have as I only skim-read the thread while we were watching the movies) or are you back to your psychic days? Or is there some other explanation?

More importantly, how was Sally so positive it was Nerwen? Nerwen is most probably guilty, but one of those "gifted" has to be lying. They couldn't all be 100% positive Nerwen was a wolf. Nothing is 100% in this game unless you've had a seer dream or your suspect is dead.

[Loslote]

Well, well, well. Nerwen, Kit, and Nog are the wolves, with A Little Green cobbler on top? Lovely. I was right about two of my suspects, then - only a 50-50, but still. :smokin:

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Although I'd like to make one question: How did you Shasta know G55 is the seer? And how did you know Nerwen is a wolf before G55 revealed - and how come G55 had dreamt of her as well? Did I miss something yesterDay (I might have as I only skim-read the thread while we were watching the movies) or are you back to your psychic days? Or is there some other explanation?

Partially that, partially it stood to reason based on all the hints/votes G55 had been leaving about Nerwen, partially I saved her and she didn't die so obviously she wasn't a wolf, and partially only ordos had died, so. She pretty much had to be the Seer.

Given Kitwolf pouncing on Nog's bad feeling about we Gifted, I'm... not sure what to think between him and Lottie, still. Hmm. I suppose the voting will play out, though.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

More importantly, how was Sally so positive it was Nerwen? Nerwen is most probably guilty, but one of those "gifted" has to be lying. They couldn't all be 100% positive Nerwen was a wolf. Nothing is 100% in this game unless you've had a seer dream or your suspect is dead.

Or the Seer says so. ;)

[Kitanna]

Sally said Nerwen was guilty before the seer revealed.

Yesterday I thought Sally was the cobbler for sure. This village can't have two hunters afterall. She had to be the cobbler, right? What could a wolf gain with a false reveal when no apparent danger was presented? Then Bom latched onto it, classic wolf behavior to my mind, but he was innocent. I thought he saw the cobbler and was trying to hint to her that they were on the same team.
And today "hunter" Sally reveals Nerwen as a wolf before the seer does? Nonsense! Three people say Nerwen is guilty. One of those is orchestrated by the wolves on Night 4.

[Nerwen]

Sally said Nerwen was guilty before the seer revealed.

Yesterday I thought Sally was the cobbler for sure. This village can't have two hunters afterall.
Oh? Is this another reveal?:rolleyes:

[Kitanna]

Oh? Is this another reveal?:rolleyes:
Yes.

[Nerwen]

Yes.
Really? So why didn't you counter-reveal yesterDay?

[Kitanna]

I wasn't in danger yesterday. I am in danger now and I either reveal now why I have a chance of survival or I risk not making it in time Day 5 to stop a bandwagon against me. We are at a point that we cannot afford to lynch innocents.

[Nogrod]

*My brain hurts*

This might almost make sense if there were two wolf-packs... :eek:

[Nerwen]

No answer?

Oh, fine then.

I'm the Ranger. G55 and– much as it pains me to relate– my pearl are either wolves, or wolf + cobbler who have somehow managed to signal to each other. Earlier I was hoping to confuse the cobbler and/or get an incriminating reaction out of someone, but I think that's gone on long enough.

I protected Sally last Night, so I know she's not a wolf, anyway. I guessed the pack would feel it was safe to go after her because of her vote on me. Of course she could still be the cobbler– I've got no way of knowing, obviously.

EDIT: X'd since my last post.

[Nerwen]

I wasn't in danger yesterday. I am in danger now and I either reveal now why I have a chance of survival or I risk not making it in time Day 5 to stop a bandwagon against me. We are at a point that we cannot afford to lynch innocents.
Yes, but if your story's true, then you must have known Sally was a baddie of some kind yesterDay, and lynching her might have made the difference whether the village survived or not.

[Nerwen]

And if anyone would like me to explain my cryptic remarks about Sally's masterplan, I'll be happy to do so.

[satansaloser2005]

Awwww, the pack is so cute. <3

Shasta, babe, I will in fact be around at DL, so we'll be able to prevent shenanigans.


Back to work, alas. Keep being entertaining, wolves. I'm enjoying it.

[Nerwen]

What is worrying me most about Sally is this– apart from everything else, it's really hard to believe she didn't realise her ++Sally plan would likely hand the game to the wolves, even if it worked. That's what the joke was about. On the other hand, I don't know that I trust Kit's reveal either. I haven't forgotten that Pitch went after her pretty strongly– and showed up dead the next Day. The way she pounced on Bom yesterDay looked pretty opportunistic, too.

Huh. Maybe they're both frauds. That would be funny.

[Nerwen]

Anyway–

++Shasta

Sorry, my jewel. It breaks my heart to have to do this, you know...:(

[Loslote]

...bwaaahh? My brain hurts trying to decide which Gifteds are really Gifted or just gifted [liars]. :o

[Kitanna]

This might almost make sense if there were two wolf-packs... :eek:
And Agan laughs from beyond the grave while Boro pulls our strings.

[A Little Green]

Here and catching up! I'll be playing while writing a 10-page paper for tomorrow, so I might actually end up being around at DL again... :rolleyes: Anyway, off to read, I've only skimmed and it looks like more than half the village has revealed as something!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Aww, my heart, I'm honored you chose me to counter-reveal against. Warms my heart, it does. :Merisu:

Lottie, darling, are you sure you aren't a wolf? Sally wasn't countered until today (when the pack is in danger), G55 hasn't been countered at all, and she confirms me, so...

[Loslote]

Lottie, darling, are you sure you aren't a wolf?

Pretty sure. Seems like the sort of thing one would have noticed, doesn't it?

[Nogrod]

Oh my.

Everything looks pretty clear: the original revealments, with all the oddities involved, look way more believable than the ones by Nerwen & Kit which were both lame and late.

Still I am feeling something's wrong here.

I'm going to read toDay again and try to clear this mess in my head.

[Nogrod]

Pretty sure. Seems like the sort of thing one would have noticed, doesn't it?If the original revelations are true you more or less have to be a wolf Lottie. I can see your careful wording that you're "pretty" sure, not a 100% sure then? :rolleyes:

[Galadriel55]

and how come G55 had dreamt of her [Nerwen] as well?

(If you're asking me about why her) I learned my lesson (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=17494)well.

More importantly, how was Sally so positive it was Nerwen? Nerwen is most probably guilty, but one of those "gifted" has to be lying. They couldn't all be 100% positive Nerwen was a wolf. Nothing is 100% in this game unless you've had a seer dream or your suspect is dead.

I thought I was rather obvious with hinting about Nerwen and Pitch, at least if you go back and look at my earlier posts again. But neither you nor Nog seem see the clues. So either I was not as obvious as I thought, or you are denying fact to try to avoid a village victory.

Well, well, well. Nerwen, Kit, and Nog are the wolves, with A Little Green cobbler on top?

Problem is, we don't know who's the ordo, and therefore don't know which people are the wolves. :smokin:

Sally said Nerwen was guilty before the seer revealed.

Yesterday I thought Sally was the cobbler for sure. This village can't have two hunters afterall. She had to be the cobbler, right? What could a wolf gain with a false reveal when no apparent danger was presented? Then Bom latched onto it, classic wolf behavior to my mind, but he was innocent. I thought he saw the cobbler and was trying to hint to her that they were on the same team.
And today "hunter" Sally reveals Nerwen as a wolf before the seer does? Nonsense! Three people say Nerwen is guilty. One of those is orchestrated by the wolves on Night 4.

The following conversation happened between me and sally yesterDay (I'm exaggerating a bit for fun's sake, but only a bit):

Sally: are you the Seer?
G55: I won't tell you directly because I don't know your intentions, but I may or may not be.
Sally: I'm the hunter.
G55: I think I can trust you. I accept your words about who you are, and I think you know who I am. Nerwolf is evil.
Sally: Yes, I know you're the Seer, and I trust you. I know you dreamed Nerwolf.

Did I miss anything, Sally? :Merisu:

I'm the Ranger. G55 and– much as it pains me to relate– my pearl are either wolves, or wolf + cobbler who have somehow managed to signal to each other. Earlier I was hoping to confuse the cobbler and/or get an incriminating reaction out of someone, but I think that's gone on long enough.

I protected Sally last Night, so I know she's not a wolf, anyway. I guessed the pack would feel it was safe to go after her because of her vote on me. Of course she could still be the cobbler– I've got no way of knowing, obviously.

Liar. Not that I blame you, you being a known wolf and all...


ToDay the wolves are already spinning the association/reverse psychology web that I expected from Nog yesterDay. How do I know if Nerwen is accusing a fellow to make her look good, or expecting us to think this way, accusing an innocent?

One more thing: anyone who does not vote Nerwen (the only known wolf) toDay is evil.

[Nogrod]

Okay. I read both yesterDay and then went through G55's posts from D1 to this Day to see about her claim & how this trio emerged from there to answer some of my worries... and I must admit I was more or less answered by that labour.

So it seems this will end up in a last minute rush votes whichever way we look at it as with Greenie being the cobbler she will know G55 has it correct - and interestingly she has said she can be around at the DL... :p


Heh, I was almost going to write here why I came to the conclusion I did but only then realised that it wouldn't interest any of you the least as I'm the only one who doesn't know the situation... and thus am the only one interested in getting confident about how things are. :)

Things being as I think they are I must raise my (imaginary) hat to you guys for making quite risky leaps of faith and getting them right: that's not an everyday thing in werewolf. And I do have to add this still... it is that sudden unwavering confidence that still kind of nags at the back of my head telling me it can't be true and that it was too smooth, like you had planned it together.

But then again, no ranger-Nerwen would have made that first reaction toDay suggesting we adopt Sally's plan from yesterDay toDay. And sure any real gifted would have made a feistier counter-reveal - had there been one.


I'll refrain from voting for a moment if Boro decides to reveal some twisted new dynamics to this game - or if someone does something considerably mind-boggling (I still have a few essays to read so I'm not able to go to sleep just yet - but I can't afford to stay up until the DL either as it would leave with three hours of sleep).

So a vote for Nerwen coming in ½-1 hours.


EDIT: X'd with Galadriel

[A Little Green]

A couple of things I don't understand about this mess. (Only a couple? No, a good many, actually! But - err - a couple I think we could use some clarification on.)

ToDay I will just pretend to be deaf to his posts and try my best to ignore his comments. If he's serving for the evil side (which I'm almost 100% sure he is) he'll try to use all kinds of tricks on us before he dies (if he dies, but he'll use them either way), and personally I don't want my mind muddled with reverse psychology and associations and whatnot from him. He sure knows how to confuse people. I don't want to be led around by him to a wrong direction.
ToDay the wolves are already spinning the association/reverse psychology web that I expected from Nog yesterDay. How do I know if Nerwen is accusing a fellow to make her look good, or expecting us to think this way, accusing an innocent?Gal, if you were the Seer, why wouldn't you have dreamed Nog last Night? Or any Night? You seem quite convinced he's evil, yet you say you haven't dreamed of him. Would be a very risky thing to do as a Seer, I'd say, considering how close the village would read your posts in case you died.

Second thing. Both Gal and Shasta seem convinced Kit is a wolf, though she doesn't appear on Gal's dream list either. I'm sure this has been explained before, but I'd like you to do it once again, please.

Third thing. The shared "knowledge" of Shasta, Sally and Gal that Nerwen is a wolf already before the "Seer" revealed her just doesn't make sense, full stop.

Fourth thing. Just speculating here. People seem to build two wolf packs - or two gifted packs - but what is neither of the two "packs" is actually there? What if half of one and half of the other are bluffing?


EDIT: x-ed with Noggins

[A Little Green]

and interestingly she has said she can be around at the DL...In fact I take that back - I've just finished my paper, it's past 1 AM, and I need to go to bed in a minute.

[Nogrod]

In fact I take that back - I've just finished my paper, it's past 1 AM, and I need to go to bed in a minute.Surprise me and do not vote Shasta... and there will be no "who gets in the last vote" game of seconds toDay. :)

That way we could do this fair and straight toMorrow and not let the chance decide.

[A Little Green]

Surprise me and do not vote Shasta... and there will be no "who gets in the last vote" game of seconds toDay.

That way we could do this fair and straight toMorrow and not let the chance decide.Nice try, mate. The thing is, why would I? Why hand the Day over to someone I know is lying?

I am not the cobbler. Gal is. And if you haven't realized what that makes me, please don't say it aloud.

[A Little Green]

That said -

++ Shasta

Good night, and good luck.

[Nogrod]

Love you Greenie! I mean you more or less removed my last suspicion. :rolleyes:

++ Nerwen


It's then up to the boldest watcher for the last possible second to send in a qualified vote. An interesting way to decide a werewolf-game... :eek:

Maybe we could call this a draw?

[Galadriel55]

My only clue I have been able to give on Day1 was my vote.

Day2:

I wrote 2 suspicion list, one at the beginning and one at the end of the Day. And they look pretty much the same. I'm quoting the first one:

Anyways, some basic impressions from yesterDay:

Pitch: I didn’t locate any fur on him. Looks innocent enough to me.

Bom: is Bom. I didn’t expect anything other than silliness from him. Can’t say anything about his alignment, though.

Nerwen: hard to say anything about her just yet. But this game she doesn’t make me nervous or scare me like in previous games, though I try to keep in mind how deadly sharp she can be to either side.

Kit, Shasta, and Greenie are sensible, and hopefully innocent.

Nog: sometimes made neat points, but at other times he has been plain illogical. I don’t want to condemn him right away because of that, though; he might be an innocent who looks at things differently than I do, or he might be a wolf who left some holes in his persuasion, or a cobbler who is just messing with our heads and taking our attention off the real wolves. Currently I think the last two are more likely.

Lottie: sweet-tongued. Defensive. I understand her defensiveness, but I haven’t played enough with her to tell if her tone is normal. I guess it is, since no one commented on it before.

Agan: is confusing. Jokes are jokes, but by the end of Day 1 you do stop fooling around with obvious silly bluffing. What’s up with your wolf-packs?

You might have noticed that here, just like on the second list, I am uncomitted about anyone except for Pitch (whom I've dreamed that Night), and I single out Nerwen, saying that she's "deadly sharp". Also, she doesn't make me nervous, because I know her role already and don't have to worry about puzzling her out.

The following was written so that in the event of my death someone would be able to put 2+2 together:

Lucky you haven’t! ;) If you look at the state of my room you'll know why I would never be asked to run anything in RL, let alone a kitchen when all the time something burns, boils over, goes bad... To give you some idea about that, the only things in my room that I constantly put away as a rule are scissors and pins. I once almost sat on one.

Bolding here to emphasise the key words. Remember how I said that Nerwen is "deadly sharp"?

Night/Day3

Was about to dream Nog, but decided that it's unefficient since he's in the centre of attention and likely to be lynched the next Day. So I dreamt Shasta instead.

Noooo!!! :( What has our shepherd ever done to you wolves? He's not a boy, and he didn't cry "wolf"...

Or did he? I'm going over his posts.

Here I mourn for ordo!Pitch because I felt like I have hinted too much about him, thus revealing both our identities (but the wolves didn't want to lose Nerwen so early on, so they let me live). But there was still a possibility that I had nothing to do with it and that Pitch was killed because he suspected Kit. But my dream was made a waste either way.

And here comes my conversation with sally:

Galadriel, please answer a question for me.

Are you an ordo? Or do you have a specific role? Please don't say which one, and of course don't expect me to necessarily believe you, but answer nonetheless.

What kind of question is this? We're all ordos here, remember? It's just that some of us secretly aren't, and they won't tell you about it. I'm just as ordinary as you are, or seem, or try to seem. And if you're sensible you wouldn't pay too much attention to that last sentence, because everyone would tell you that, regardless of role.

Kill me, and I can almost assure you there will only be three.

(the reveal.... kinda goes over 2 posts)

I nitpick Nerwen's posts trying to find a reason for her to look suspicious enough to be lynched. That continues for a few posts. Greenie and Kit also get a couple pokes here and there. Call me a hypercrite. I am. (ie I accused Nerwen of grabbing every strand of other's posts, and did it myself with hers)

*Shoves a bucketful of apples at Shasta* as long as you use them for the good of the village, they're there!


Suspicion list:

GUILTY
Nerwen. Don't like how desperately she wants sally ot of the way.
Nog. Impersonating the Seer. Most likely cobbler.

INNOCENT (ish)
Sally. I trust her.
Shasta. He looks like an innocent who tries to do his best, and really he did even more than other innocents with that Aganalysis, although it turned out wrong. It did not come out of nowhere.

Unknown
Everyone else.

...

Edit 2: Good luck, village! You'll need it! Just keep your eyes open.

Need I explain this one, after I bolded out the important parts?

For the record....

++Nerwen

It's not like it matters now anyway.

I took this to mean that "for the record", sally guessed at my role, and believed me.

Night4:

Between Kit and Greenie chose to dream Greenie.


After seeing all this, do you not trust that I'm the Seer and that Nerwen, Shasta, and Greenie are who I said they are?

Edit: xed since #327

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Well, Lottie, if you aren't evil, be a dear and vote Nerwen for us? :Merisu:

[satansaloser2005]

After all this is over, I actually have quite the interesting story....

In the meantime, let's have everyone vote for Nerwen and be done with it.

[Loslote]

Well, Lottie, if you aren't evil, be a dear and vote Nerwen for us? :Merisu:

Of course, Shasta dear. And hey, don't worry, I'll be around come DL to vote, so you don't have to bother. Go ahead and vote now. :Merisu:

[Galadriel55]

A couple of things I don't understand about this mess. (Only a couple? No, a good many, actually! But - err - a couple I think we could use some clarification on.)

Ah, you've come to muddle up the waters for us... :D

But I'll clarify anyways just in case some other baddies would want to jump on your questions.

Gal, if you were the Seer, why wouldn't you have dreamed Nog last Night? Or any Night? You seem quite convinced he's evil, yet you say you haven't dreamed of him. Would be a very risky thing to do as a Seer, I'd say, considering how close the village would read your posts in case you died.

True thing that it was risky, but I believed that I left enough clues for the village to figure out who my dream was.

And I was inches away from sending Nog's name in twice. But the first time decided that the less in-the-spotlight Pitch was more dangerous, and some things that he said rang alarm bells. Next Night I actually sent his name in, but then realised that it is an unefficient dream; I expected him to be the topic of discussion on D3, and possibly the lynch. So before Boro replied to me I asked him if I could change my pick to Shasta, and he kindly allowed me.

Second thing. Both Gal and Shasta seem convinced Kit is a wolf, though she doesn't appear on Gal's dream list either. I'm sure this has been explained before, but I'd like you to do it once again, please.

Interactions.

Third thing. The shared "knowledge" of Shasta, Sally and Gal that Nerwen is a wolf already before the "Seer" revealed her just doesn't make sense, full stop.

Hinting.

Fourth thing. Just speculating here. People seem to build two wolf packs - or two gifted packs - but what is neither of the two "packs" is actually there? What if half of one and half of the other are bluffing?

Shasta and myself are real gifteds. Nerwen is a real wolf. This fact is as solid as stone.

Well, Lottie, if you aren't evil, be a dear and vote Nerwen for us?

I have a bad feeling that the wolves are not going t risk it and will vote Nerwen to look good toMorrow. Not that I mind extra Nerwen votes, but they don't necessarily mean anything.


Gonna look at all the "question mark"s' posts to see if they could contain evidence of the player's role.

Edit: xed with Lottie*2

[Galadriel55]

Of course, Shasta dear. And hey, don't worry, I'll be around come DL to vote, so you don't have to bother. Go ahead and vote now. :Merisu:

And what if you don't vote Nerwen on DL? Shasta is the only person in this game (except for myself, but I already voted) whom I can trust 100%. No, forget that. 200%.

[satansaloser2005]

Shasta is the only person in this game (except for myself, but I already voted) whom I can trust 100%. No, forget that. 200%.

Ahem.

[Loslote]

And what if you don't vote Nerwen on DL? Shasta is the only person in this game (except for myself, but I already voted) whom I can trust 100%. No, forget that. 200%.

Oh, come on, now, what's the fun without a little risk?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Of course, Shasta dear. And hey, don't worry, I'll be around come DL to vote, so you don't have to bother. Go ahead and vote now. :Merisu:

Thanks, Lottie. Until just now, I really wasn't for certain who the wolf was between you and Nog. Much appreciated. :)

[Loslote]

Thanks, Lottie. Until just now, I really wasn't for certain who the wolf was between you and Nog. Much appreciated. :)

You're very welcome. :Merisu:

[satansaloser2005]

Thanks, Lottie. Until just now, I really wasn't for certain who the wolf was between you and Nog. Much appreciated. :)

Not while I'm drinking at the computer. :rolleyes:

[Galadriel55]

Ahem.

Sorry, sally, but I didn't dream you. I say that I trust you based on gut, not fact. So no 100% here.

[satansaloser2005]

Sorry, sally, but I didn't dream you. I say that I trust you based on gut, not fact. So no 100% here.

Lame.

Then again, I suppose I deserve it. Until Shasta's reveal, I didn't trust you either. I totally thought you were a wolf trying to butter me up. :p

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Lame.

Then again, I suppose I deserve it. Until Shasta's reveal, I didn't trust you either. I totally thought you were a wolf trying to butter me up. :p

Well, technically, you can trust her based on process of elimination. The only other person the Hunter could possibly be is Kit, and... I mean, it's Kit. :p

(Just teasin', Kit! Love ya! Have an apple?)

[Kitanna]

Well, technically, you can trust her based on process of elimination. The only other person the Hunter could possibly be is Kit, and... I mean, it's Kit. :p

I refuse to take that in good humor.

[Boromir88]

All votes that are time stamped :00 (according to the 'Downs clock) will count. Anything :01 or after won't.

[Loslote]

I refuse to take that in good humor.

Oh, thank goodness you're here! I was getting nervous, alone with all these evil wolves! :eek:

[satansaloser2005]

As a show of good faith, Lottie, dear, why don't you vote now?

[Galadriel55]

Innocents in italics, wolves in bold, cobbler underlined.

DAY 1

Gal - Nerwen
Kath - Inzil
Inzil - Nog
Greenie - Nog 2 (xed with Zil's vote)
Shasta - Inzil 2
Pitch - Zil 3
Lottie - Nog 3
Kit - Inzil 4
Agan - Zil 5
Nog - Zil 6 (looking at the timing, probably xed with Agan)
Bom - Zil

DAY 2

Kit - Green
Green - Nog
Lottie - Agan
Nog - Agan 2
Pitch - Agan 3 (xed with some posts)
sally - Nog 2 (xed with Pitch)
Agan - Shasta
G55 - Nog 3 (xed with some votes)
Shasta - Agan


DAY 3

Nerwen - Nogrod
Shasta - Bom
Kitanna - Bom (2)
G55 -. Nerwen
Greenie - Bom (3)
Bom - sally
Lottie - Nogrod (2)
Nog - Bom
sally - Nerwen



I'll analyse this in a bit.

Edit: xed since Kit

Edit 2: bolding Lottie's name.

[Loslote]

As a show of good faith, Lottie, dear, why don't you vote now?

Alright!

++Shasta

As it happened, I lied. I won't be able to be online at the DL - my class starts at 8:00pm exactly. :rolleyes: Kit, it's up to you now. Make me proud. ;)

[satansaloser2005]

That was classy.

[Galadriel55]

Oh, thank goodness you're here! I was getting nervous, alone with all these evil wolves! :eek:

Does something sound illogical here, or is it only me? :rolleyes:

There is only one ordo left. If you claim to be the ordo, the only way the above statement could work is if you believed Kit's reveal, which looks furry (the reveal does).

Combined with your desperate plea to be the last one to vote, you really do look like a wolf.

Edit: xed with Wolflote and sally

Hurray! One more wolf discovered!

I'm gonna bold her name on the vote list in my previous post

[satansaloser2005]

I am not the cobbler. Gal is. And if you haven't realized what that makes me, please don't say it aloud.

How can I be sure you're not pretender?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Here and waiting. You wolves won't win this one. ;) I owe Gwaihir thirty pounds of birdseed if you do. I can't afford that!

[Galadriel55]

We're left with Kit, Nog, and sally as wolf, hunter, and ordo. Sally and Kit claim huntership, Nog doesn't claim anything. My conclusion is that he must be the ordo. And I trust sally much more than Kit, so...

But at least one thing is logically certain: Nog is an ordo.

Edit: xed since my last

[Galadriel55]

How can I be sure you're not pretender?

You can be assured that she is. :smokin:

Edit: where are the votes? *panicks*

[Shastanis Althreduin]

++Nerwen

For Gwaihir! And the other residents of Lake-Town!

[Kitanna]

++ Shasta

[satansaloser2005]

++Nerwen



ETA: We did it, my love! In your memory shall we claim victory! <3

[Boromir88]

Deadline. No more posting.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

-celebrates-

Take that, you flea-bitten mongrels! :D

Except my dear one, obviously.

Edit - X'ed with el mod. Sorry Boro.

[Boromir88]

Indeed Nerwen is lynched. And aye she's a wolf. It's Night...5? Now. Those with nightly activities, do them.

LIVING

Galadriel55...Cook.
Greenie...Undertaker.
Kitanna...Cooper.
Loslote...Candlestick Maker.
Nogrod...Wine-maker from Dorwiniondil.
Sally...most prestigious Musician and Poet of Lake-town.
Shasta...Notable miscreant.

DEAD

Boro...King's Secretary - Night 1
Inziladun...Furrier (Ordo) - Day 1
Kath...Baker (Ordo) - Night 2.
Agan...Baker's wife (Ordo) - Day 2
Pitch...Shepherd (Ordo) - Night 3
Bom...cobbler (Ordo) - Day 3
No Death...Gwaihir save! - Night 4
Nerwen...Town crier (Wolf) - Day 4

[Boromir88]

"Good work on last night's protection. I've got a new name for you tonight." said the Town's miscreant.

The eagle lord shook its head. "My debt has been repaid."

Shasta stood agape, not believing what he had heard from the eagle. "You came here to serve me, to guard whomever I asked you to guard. I command you fulfill your promises!"

"The eagles do not serve men, we serve a higher being, scarcely known to men. You saved one of my kin, I did as you bid and saved one of yours. Not two, just one. The debt has been repaid."

The miscreant was growing more furious with the eagle. How could Gwaihir, the great Windlord just abandon the village now? When the townspeople were in their greatest need too? "I fear the pack will come for me tonight. Guard me. Not for a favor, but for a friend."

"You know I can not. Even if I could, I would not be able to fight off another wolf attack. I fear one bit me good in the attack last night, and the wounds need a healer's touch. The debt..."

"I know, I know." interrupted Shasta. "Its been repaid. Well if it's going that you must do, than go already. Go, go, go...see if your race gets help from me again."

"Simple minded human." brawked Gwaihir. "Does not understand the powers that turns the world. The eagles do not meddle in the affairs of Men and Elves. Though we do not let eagle-friends, sit and wait, only to die."

---

The two wolves were on the prowl again. Angry, hungry, and even angier because of their misfortunes in the past 24 hours. They would eat that miscreant tonight though. See if that stupid pet bird stopped them from feasting two straight nights.

As they entered the home of Shasta, gleefully they felt no presense of the eagle at all. "This will be easy tonight." gleamed one of the wolves. But as they tore the house apart, Shasta was nowhere to be found.

"Where could he be?" whimpered a wolf.

"Gone by the looks of it." growled the other. "He didn't even leave us a rotten apple!"

Conflicted with happiness of never having to deal with the dumb bird, or the miscreant again, yet being hungrier than ever as the miscreant seemed to have grown wings of his own, or flown off with that eagle.

"Well, where did we leave the Shepherd's sheep?" asked a wolf.

"By the shepherd...I think." smiled the other.


LIVING

Galadriel55...Cook.
Greenie...Undertaker.
Kitanna...Cooper.
Loslote...Candlestick Maker.
Nogrod...Wine-maker from Dorwiniondil.
Sally...most prestigious Musician and Poet of Lake-town.

DEAD

Boro...King's Secretary - Night 1
Inziladun...Furrier (Ordo) - Day 1
Kath...Baker (Ordo) - Night 2.
Agan...Baker's wife (Ordo) - Day 2
Pitch...Shepherd (Ordo) - Night 3
Bom...cobbler (Ordo) - Day 3
No Death...Gwaihir save! - Night 4
Nerwen...Town crier (Wolf) - Day 4
Shasta...Town miscreant (Ranger/Gwaihir) - Night 5

It is Day 5. Carry on and bring me another lynch. :D

[Kitanna]

Seeing as everyone knows everyone else's roles and somehow I think no one is going to submit, everyone should be prepared for an internet staring contest.

[satansaloser2005]

Just to make things interesting, I decided to hunt Galadriel....

[Kitanna]

It's 50/50 you're lying anyway, so why would I risk believing you?

[Galadriel55]

Confirmation: Kit is a wolf.

Seeing as everyone knows everyone else's roles and somehow I think no one is going to submit, everyone should be prepared for an internet staring contest.

*stares*



Sally, how does your schedule work tomorrow (toDay at DL)? Nog? Mine is not very WW frinedly, as I am out of the house an hour before deadline, and comming back an hour after, and there's no way I could change it. :(


A note about yesterDay: I was getting quite paranoid until Lottie's "reveal" (more like revelation...:rolleyes:). I was afraid sally was leading me around with my trust, laughing at me. I'm glad you weren't. :)

[satansaloser2005]

I'll be here.

[satansaloser2005]

So, Kit, why didn't you just let Nerwen get thrown under the bus yesterDay? Why the escapades? Until your antics, I wasn't sure who the other baddie was, and might have actually trusted you. What prompted the fake reveal?

[Kitanna]

++G55

[Galadriel55]

What's there to talk about now?

This game is becomming a race of which vote's the latest... >.<:rolleyes:

Wolves, maybe you'd care to explain your Pitch-kill now to make this more interesting? No? Well, it was worth a try.

Edit: xed since my last. Yay! people!

[satansaloser2005]

Wouldn't it be hilarious if I turned out to be the last wolf all along? :Merisu:

[Galadriel55]

So, Kit, why didn't you just let Nerwen get thrown under the bus yesterDay? Why the escapades? Until your antics, I wasn't sure who the other baddie was, and might have actually trusted you. What prompted the fake reveal?

You know, I was also thinking that the wolves would sacrifice Nerwen to keep their identity a mystery. But they made a bet for it - and a close one too! The last minute votes came it moments one after the other! It took me just one refresh to have them all shown. :eek:

So, which wolf to lynch toDay? They're both known.

[Galadriel55]

Wouldn't it be hilarious if I turned out to be the last wolf all along?

Not to me. :Merisu::cool::rolleyes:

[Kitanna]

So, Kit, why didn't you just let Nerwen get thrown under the bus yesterDay? Why the escapades? Until your antics, I wasn't sure who the other baddie was, and might have actually trusted you. What prompted the fake reveal?
I was bored and until Nerwen did it too I thought it might sway the last ordo.

[satansaloser2005]

÷÷Galadriel

[Kitanna]

I really thought it might sway Nog in our direction. But I knew by Day's end everyone would know one way or the other. I knew it'd be a tie and we're not out yet. I wasn't going to throw Nerwen under the bus.

[Loslote]

÷÷Galadriel

I was so excited for a moment! :(

[Galadriel55]

÷÷Galadriel

I really hope Boro is not reading off a phone!

[Galadriel55]

Wouldn't it be hilarious if I turned out to be the last wolf all along?

You know, after pondering this for a bit, I think it would be even more hilarious if I turned out to be the last wolf. Then I would have sacrificed a packmate, gotten lucky with Shasta, and accused innocent Kit and Greenie. And, as innocents, they should have been Hunter and Seer respectively, which would mean that sally is the third wolf. And Lottie would probably have been the ordo, and Nog the cobbler. :D

Never thought to expand this way, have you, wolves? ;)

But I'm not a wolf, as I have proved to you. But this more interesting that a staring contest.

*still staring**sleeps with open eyes to continue staring*

See y'all after a nap!

[Nogrod]

What on earth? :smokin:

[Nogrod]

So this is after all a lovers' game and Sally & Kit are lovers? Otherwise this makes little sense... what Sally does I mean.

Galadriel, did you actually dream Greenie as the cobbler or was her role just your guess after seeing her an innocent (=non-wolf)? Not that it seems to be of much relevance as yesterDay's voting went neatly along the lines our scenario predicted.

Okay. I'll try to just clear this to myself so I'm also sharing this.

YesterDay's Nerwolf lynchers:
Shasta: known ranger, deceased.
Galadriel: seer (most likely true).
Sally: hunter? lover? cobbler? (nailed wolf-Nerwen yesterDay).
Nogrod: ordinary innocent.

That would leave as baddies the Shasta-voters:
Nerwen: lynched wolf.
Kitanna: wolf by G's dream & more or less own revelation.
Lottie: wolf more or less by own revelation from yesterDay.
Greenie: cobbler by G's dream, voted along the wolves as she should.

Looking at that Sally's action makes no sense and the wolves win. At the moment it looks like we're going to lynch Galadriel toDay (Kit, Sally, Lottie & Greenie have four votes agaisnt G55's & my two).

Sally. You are a lover, aren't you?


EDIT: Forget this post - see the next one for details...

[Nogrod]

Haha... :D:D

I just scrolled the last few posts only to start wondering what Lottie meant when she said she was excited for a moment after seeing Sally's vote as it didn't seem to make sense.

And then I realised the markers in Sally's vote (we don't have that sign in Finnish keyboards so I can't reproduce them here)!

So that's it then... Sorry for all the trouble reading my previous post gives you (heh, nice chance to glance into my conspiracy-theory suspectible mind). :rolleyes:



Back to business then. I'm not able to stay up till 3AM (DL here) as I have work in the morning, so that will leave it to Sally to bring home the bacon once again.

[Galadriel55]

Galadriel, did you actually dream Greenie as the cobbler or was her role just your guess after seeing her an innocent (=non-wolf)?

I dreamt her.

And then I realised the markers in Sally's vote (we don't have that sign in Finnish keyboards so I can't reproduce them here)!

Lol, I also confused them with plusses at firts, and then I thought that it wasn't sally but Lottie who posted it, and then I saw Lottie's post and it all didn't make any sense. And then it did. :D

We don't have the divisin sign markings either on our keyboards. Sally known a trick I don't.

[satansaloser2005]

My keyboard doesn't have them either, but I have my ways. :smokin:

Hmph. I'm going back to bed for a bit longer. Yawn.

[A Little Green]

*sigh* Known cobbler, possibly the dullest WW role there is. Anyway, before I forget -

++ Gal

Won't be around much toDay either with a big exam tomorrow - but then again, I doubt you'll need me much. Wouldn't be around at DL to save the day anyway!

[satansaloser2005]

Sally. You are a lover, aren't you?

Oh goodness. Boro had assured me he would keep that a secret. :eek:

Hush on that, Nogrod. You'll make Shasta jealous, and Nilp would be beside himselves if he heard such things. (I don't even want to think about what Phantom would say.)

:Merisu:

Also, you should use a definite article there. :smokin:

[Nogrod]

Is it going to be Kitanna or Lottie toDay whom we vote? It would be very unfortunate if two of us crossposted different votes.

I'm probably going to vote in the evening when I get home (meaning 3-5 hours before the DL). Hope you Sally can outvote Lottie!


*sigh* Known cobbler, possibly the dullest WW role there is.Poor thing. :)

[Nogrod]

The Lover... *sounds convincing* :cool:

[satansaloser2005]

As much as I want to leave Kit alone in her cowardice (read, fake reveal), I'd rather have Lottie around toMorrow than Kit, so Kit it must be.

EDIT: x'd with Nog stroking my ego

[Kitanna]

As much as I want to leave Kit alone in her cowardice (read, fake reveal), I'd rather have Lottie around toMorrow than Kit, so Kit it must be.

EDIT: x'd with Nog stroking my ego
Good. I'm done anyway.

[satansaloser2005]

Good. I'm done anyway.

For the record, it's nothing personal. I just don't want another arms race toMorrow, and I know you'd be around for it. I don't know for sure about Pop.


Oooo, and now I have a parody in mind....

[satansaloser2005]

Oh, heck no. I'm too lazy to do the whole thing, mostly because it would be stuck in my head for weeks. Thus, a simple excerpt from the real thing....


Hop, Pop! We like to hop.
We like to hop on top of Pop.
Stop! You must not hop on Pop!


....ToDay, that is. :rolleyes:

[Kitanna]

I'm starting to take this game and the jokes seriously. So do me the favor and end it. I need to focus on the true stress of work, not the stress of an arms race. I have to be the big bad wolf in RL now. :p

I still believe in you Lottie! Make me proud!

[Boromir88]

This is perhaps the first time I can remember something like this happening...it's got to be the most awkward circumstance.

[satansaloser2005]

Sorry, Boro, darling, it's not for you. :Merisu:

At the end of the Day, Mistress Lottie, you will be the only wolf left. Greenie is unlikely to be around at the DL toMorrow, which means Galadriel and I will easily control the vote.

I propose that you send in my name to Boro right after DL, ending the game toNight; I, of course, will do the same. Thus, I will fulfill the mechanical purpose of my gift, and you will end the game on your (technically, my, but no matter) terms, with dignity, with grace, with honor, and in a way that has only been done once before.

What say you, Wolflote?

[Loslote]

At the end of the Day, Mistress Lottie, you will be the only wolf left.

Not necessariliy, my dear scrumptious Cupcake. And of course I can't eat you before G55 and Nog - it's bad to eat your dessert before your main course! ;)

[satansaloser2005]

Not necessariliy, my dear scrumptious Cupcake.

As always, I assume that I will be successful toDay. Mostly because I will. :smokin:

And I always eat dessert first.

[satansaloser2005]

Wow. This is depressing. :(

[Nogrod]

So unless one or both of you disapprove, I will vote for Kitanna in a short while.

Withdrawing my vote for a moment now if either of you think there is a better plan (Lottie?)...

[Galadriel55]

Wow. This is indeed very dull and depressing.

I don't have anything against Sally's idea of lynching Kit.

I will vote about 1 hour before DL - the latest I can. My toMorrow's schedule is still a questionmark, so I can't promise anything then either.

[Nogrod]

Okay.

++ Kitanna


Wishing us luck with the endgame! Hope we'll meet toMorrow.


I trust you Sally to give us some loving!

[Galadriel55]

It seems that Sally has to save another Day... *starts cheer* Cup!- Cake! Cup! - Cake! Cup! - Cake!

Hope we'll meet toMorrow.

We won't. :cool::D

Gotta go for a bit. Will be back to vote in about an hour.

[Kitanna]

It seems that Sally has to save another Day... *starts cheer* Cup!- Cake! Cup! - Cake! Cup! - Cake!



We won't. :cool::D

Gotta go for a bit. Will be back to vote in about an hour.
Ifyou don't meet tomorrow it means wolves win.

[satansaloser2005]

I trust you Sally to give us some loving!

I would never bring you any kind of sorrow. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA5GkLM5C7M) :Merisu:

[satansaloser2005]

Anyway, before I forget -

++ Gal

Won't be around much toDay either with a big exam tomorrow - but then again, I doubt you'll need me much. Wouldn't be around at DL to save the day anyway!

You want her toDay, but what about toMorrow?

[Nogrod]

Ifyou don't meet tomorrow it means wolves win.If we don't meet toMorrow we haven't been able to buy the flight tickets... ;)

[satansaloser2005]

Wishing us luck with the endgame! Hope we'll meet toMorrow.

I would like to take you where no one can deceive you. <3

[satansaloser2005]

Ifyou don't meet tomorrow it means wolves win.

And this world would be a better place to live in.



....No, no it really wouldn't.

[Galadriel55]

Ifyou don't meet tomorrow it means wolves win.

No, it just means that one of us will be killed. :smokin:

If we don't meet toMorrow we haven't been able to buy the flight tickets...

This works as well. :D

[Galadriel55]

++Kitanna

:Merisu:

Let us hope that sally votes last.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh bother. Are both wolves' votes still out?

[Boromir88]

A possible aid to the voters waiting out the final minutes...

Click me. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw&ob=av3e)

[satansaloser2005]

A possible aid to the voters waiting out the final minutes...

Click me. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw&ob=av3e)

No joke, this is my official Downer ringtone. :D


ETA: For calls, that is. For texts, I use this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA&ob=av3n). I've had both instituted since my Werewolf Idol game. ^_^

[Loslote]

I just ran through the streets of Annapolis because my date went long (we couldn't find a restaurant) and no one I texted was able to vote for me. I'd better kill me a Seer. :rolleyes:

[satansaloser2005]

I just ran through the streets of Annapolis because my date went long (we couldn't find a restaurant) and no one I texted was able to vote for me. I'd better kill me a Seer. :rolleyes:

I could have voted for you. Oh, wait....

[satansaloser2005]

Don't blink. Don't even blink. Blink and you're dead. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U3ampthDdk)

[Loslote]

++G55

Edit: YES

[satansaloser2005]

One more dawn. One more Day. One Day more.

I must ensure that it is so, and thus I shall vote.

++Kit



ETA: What the heck? I submitted this twice, and it only kept the second one. That is messed up.

[Boromir88]

Deadline. No more posting.

Who wins the voting race?

[Boromir88]

Sorry mah dear sally, not much I can do. Gotta go by the 'Downs post and the vote came a fraction late.

G55, the seer is lynched. (Narration possibly be filled in, but I've gotten way too tired of late and falling behind).

LIVING

Galadriel55...Cook.
Greenie...Undertaker.
Kitanna...Cooper.
Loslote...Candlestick Maker.

DEAD

Boro...King's Secretary - Night 1
Inziladun...Furrier (Ordo) - Day 1
Kath...Baker (Ordo) - Night 2.
Agan...Baker's wife (Ordo) - Day 2
Pitch...Shepherd (Ordo) - Night 3
Bom...cobbler (Ordo) - Day 3
No Death...Gwaihir save! - Night 4
Nerwen...Town crier (Wolf) - Day 4
Shasta...Town miscreant (Ranger/Gwaihir) - Night 5
sally...(Bard) - Day 5. jumps in and saves G55 from noose.
Nogrod...wolf dinner - Day 5.

Wolves win. Congrats to the pack...what an interesting last few days.

[Nerwen]

Go Lottie!!!!

[Kitanna]

Eat it raw! (had to be said after all the smugness ;) )

Lottie, you're my hero! I got home right before DL and cried a single wolfy tear at 7:01.

PS: Gifteds (and Nog) it was weird, let's not do again anytime soon.

Good game everyone.

[satansaloser2005]

I am never playing in a "the last to get to vote count dies" game again. (That's a lie. I totally will, especially if Boro is modding.)

Seriously, I am so cross at the Downs right now, it's not even funny.

I'll offer kudos and sarcasm when I'm not so upset. Right now I require cupcakes.

[satansaloser2005]

Let us hope that sally votes last.

Well, I voted last....

:rolleyes:

[Loslote]

^.^

That is all I have to say. Also, that it was totally worth the frantic run down Maryland Avenue at 7:45 at night. :p

[Galadriel55]

Right now I require cupcakes.

*gives sally cupcakes* It was a good try. Internet just has a bad habbit of betraying you at the most important moment.


Nog and Agan, you are both crazy.

And I just thought this... one "illogical" statement is actually quite not untrue...

It is interesting we have three people sending silly lists to begin the game - and those people are also the most vocal ones thereafter... If I was a wolf with a bold team we could do something like that just to have fun with it. So Kit, Galadriel and Bom?

Probably not. But then again I'd be surprised if they all are goodies... I just don't think that general air there is free from foul.

How on Earth did you know?! Did you just guess? Or vibes? Or, well, how did you know? :eek:

(so who's psychic here? :p)


ETA: Nerwen, whatever I've said about you not being scary, you are. I must give you your due for this. When reading your D2 posts I caught myself thinking, "wow, she makes so much sense, she's probably innocent!" :rolleyes: You don't have access to the phantom powers (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=17567)by any chance, do you?


ETA2:

http://cupcakegeneral.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/cupcake_stand.gif?w=490

For you, sally! :-)

[Inziladun]

Usually at the end of a game I try to critique my performance. In this case, however, a Day 1 lynching leaves precious little to critique. I was merely insanely busy. :rolleyes:

Congrats to the baddies, and thanks for modding, Boro.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Well pastry. That was one roast beef of a milk-and-cookies game. :D

Also, Sally is getting a rep for "blink and you're dead" as soon as I can get it to work. There is supposed to be some indication that it worked, no? :(

[A Little Green]

WHEEEEE!

Congrats, wolves! I wasn't really sure who you lot were until the end-game absurdity, though I was pretty confident about Kit. Did you actually get my hints or not? I thought you did, but it might've been just paranoia.. I'm also a teensy bit disappointed that I didn't get to pick a fight with Agan - that was next on my list after picking a fight with Nog. :rolleyes: Anyway, good game everyone - and let's hope this farce won't repeat itself anytime soon. Really.

Oh, and Sally - you're absolutely fine. :Merisu:

[Nerwen]

WHEEEEE!

Congrats, wolves! I wasn't really sure who you lot were until the end-game absurdity, though I was pretty confident about Kit. Did you actually get my hints or not? I thought you did, but it might've been just paranoia.
Actually, I'm afraid there was talk of killing you. By Night Four we'd guessed you and Shasta as a possible Cobbler and Ranger, but we weren't sure which was which, and Kit was worried about G55 being protected– as indeed she was. So you were both under consideration for a while.

[Aganzir]

Nog and Agan, you are both crazy.
I know. But Boro told me to be annoying. ;)

This was a good game and it was interesting to follow it even after I died. I was so sure Nog was a wolf all along... but from now on I just won't pay any attention to him because he drives me insane. ;)

Congrats, wolves! Even if the game could have ended both ways, you played exceedingly well, and personally I doubt we would've got you if this village hadn't been so successful at killing the ordos.

Thanks for modding Boro, and good game everyone! It's been too long since I last played.

[Boromir88]

Well since everyone knew everybody's role days ago, maybe everyone knows the gifteds choices too? :rolleyes: :p

G55's dreams:

Night 1 - Nerwen
Night 2 - Pitch
Night 3 - Shasta
Night 4 - Greenie
Night 5 - Kitanna

Shasta's protections:

Night 2 - Nerwen (believed the wolves would go after a quiet trailless kill, but a possibly troublesome villager. His reasoning was spot on, since wolves went for Kath, but...well except the fact that Nerwen was one of them)

Night 3 - Greenie, seemingly in frustration at what the wolves would do for their kill this night, winds up protecting the cobbler now. Interesting start for the Ranger.

Night 4 - The big one that basically changed the game around. Shasta reasoned out that he wouldn't want to protect sally, believing her reveal. And if he was right about G55's reasons for voting Nerwen, it would make G55 the seer and Nerwen therefor a wolf. Gave the village that one extra day to work things out.

Night 5 - out of being unable to protect G55 again, nor himself. Chose Nogrod.

sally's hunts:

Night 2 - Pitch
Night 3 - Shasta
Night 4 - G55 (First she wanted to hunt Nerwen, but second-guessed and doubted herself to the point of switching to G55. Oh sally.)
Night 5 - Kitanna

This was the strangest ending to a game I can ever remember. I was conflicted, since the pack was playing so well at staying unsuspicious, and getting lynches. Yet, not getting any gifteds at all. So in the Night 4 turning point, where Shasta caught on, it gave the village that one extra day for all the information to come out and completely flip things against the pack.

However, with the cobbler still, it would have to go perfectly for the village, to the point of getting that final vote every night. I didn't know how to end it without letting the staring contest and voting arms race to continue to play out. Or to end it without one side feeling shafted. It just played out so strangely with the mass slaying of ordos day and night.

Ah well, hope it was enjoyed by all, and the image of Lottie bolting back to a computer after a date to take that last vote and win it for the wolves, makes up for the conflictions of "how can this end in a way that's not bad and dragging!?" from the last couple days. :D

Oh, and Bom, sometimes if you click the scale, it doesn't open up on my computer. But if you right click and choose "open window" the reputation page should open.

I was laughing at some of the earlier cobbler discussions because my PM to Bom went something like..."I would be full of insane glee at making the town cobbler, the actual cobbler but it would be far too silly." And to Greenie "Well since you expressed so much desire to keep the cobbler around, congrats, you are now the Mayor." And without even realizing it until sally pointed it out after I sent the roles...ironically her occupation as poet and musician, is well...a bard...Bard the bard bowman

[Nogrod]

Ah well, hope it was enjoyed by all, and the image of Lottie bolting back to a computer after a date to take that last vote and win it for the wolves, makes up for the conflictions of "how can this end in a way that's not bad and dragging!?" from the last couple days.Thinking about that image really made my day! Go wolves, you earned this if only for that! :cool:

But like some have mentioned already, let's not repeat this ending any time soon. It was just... well random. And actually, when I suggested we'd call it a draw two Days ago I was half-serious as it could be then seen already that it would be only about who's getting the latest vote in for a few Days (or would someone fail to vote)... But I do understand you Boro not calling it off back there. I would hate to end my own game prematurely as well.

But yes, the wolves were pretty good this time around and my reaction to those revelations by Sally, Shasta & Galadriel - that my top suspects go on "mass revealing" - is quite telling on how totally blind I was this time around... (yeah, not my proudest moment in my ww-history).

So kudos to the wolves (I was after Lottie for a moment but sadly gave in under pressure by so many others - especially Greenie the cobbler who really did her job well there): a game well played.

But also kudos to our gifteds. It's a rare occasion you manage to build such trust in a game, rely on it and succeed (oftentimes some trust-relationship seems to develop the other part to the relation later turns out a baddie). So way to go G55, Shasta and loverSally!

Btw. it was quite a nasty feeling when I realised that I was the only ordinary innocent around and that thus everything depended on me making the right choice as all the others knew the situation (Greenie knew her allies as G55's dream was either true or false)... So if you wondered why it took me some time to finally believe you guys, try to relate to that angst that "what if I get it wrong". :eek:

Thanks for a nice game Boro - and all those who played and made it thus.


PS. Agan: I know we ought to stop this. It's getting quite weird when if I see you defending me against multiple others with perfectly sensible (and oft times correct) reasons, my mind goes immediately to "she must be a wolf trying to play tricks on me: no way my lady!" :)

[Galadriel55]

Sally, you actually did hunt me?! I thought you were bluffing! :D

It's funny how my dreams and sally's "huntees" and the same in 3 cases...Shasta has already proven himself the most original gifted in like his first post or something. :p

[Edit: yes (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=664464&postcount=7)]

And without even realizing it until sally pointed it out after I sent the roles...ironically her occupation as poet and musician, is well...a bard...Bard the bard bowman

OMG! That's hilarious!



To summarise, this has been the weirdest game in a while, both in terms of the end and in how it was played...

[Pitchwife]

Well, that was... disappointing. But even Gods strive in vain against the Downs' clock.:(

Anyway, applause to you wolves - all three of you, but especially to Lottie; that's dedication!
Ah well, hope it was enjoyed by all, and the image of Lottie bolting back to a computer after a date to take that last vote and win it for the wolves, makes up for the conflictions of "how can this end in a way that's not bad and dragging!?" from the last couple days.
It does. That run should be made in to a movie. Oh wait, it has! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCzWWT59quI&feature=related)

Nerwen, you posted so little during my lifetime that I had no idea at all about you, but you looked innocent enough on D3 to my lurking ghost (although I must say I didn't believe your counter reveal on D4 for a minute, after what had gone before).
Kit, I don't know what it was - usually your wolf-self manages to look quite innocent to me, but this time I felt from the start that there was something foul about you; maybe I'm finally developping a wolf radar after all these games, or maybe I was just lucky.
Lottie, I had some early doubts about you, but Nog's argument against you looked so contrived I decided you were probably innocent.:rolleyes:

By the way, you did the village a favour by killing me: if I'd lived, my prime suspects on D3 would have been Nog and Shasta...

Greeniemuna, you were one evil papa-fish of a cobbler! Once more you fooled me utterly (until your Bom vote, which reeked of evil, but I was dead by then). Good job!

Gifteds, you have no idea how much I cheered for you on the last two Days! You all managed to stay hidden while one ordo after the other bit the dust, and on D4 it was wonderful to watch you all come out together and build a wall of trust that defied all wolvish machinations.
sally, you were such a cool hunter, you would have deserved to get the last vote in!
G55, that was some awesome seering first time around! Dreaming a wolf on N1, staying cool and not giving yourself away is quite a feat, as I know from experience (I lost my nerves and came out on D1, but luckily it all worked out.)
Shasticle, nice Rangering when it mattered! As mentioned above, I feared some evil collusion between you and Nog after we'd lynched Agan and actually took the pain to analyse you the Night I was killed, but the wolves spared me the disgrace of making a fool of myself. When I saw your reveal, I was like "duh - of course!" It all made perfect sense then.

I was after Lottie for a moment but sadly gave in under pressure by so many others
Yeah, sorry 'bout that. I admit hair-splitting may reveal hidden fur sometimes. I still think hair-splitting was what you did with Lottie's "never mind", but maybe it was one of those cases where you get a certain feel from a post without being quite able to nail it down, which may result in arguments that look contrived but aren't, if you get what I mean.
I was furious at you when Agan turned out innocent, but you've already explained that, so I don't need to ask what you thought you were doing.
Anyway, this time I'm glad I backed off you on D2 and didn't live long enough to think worse of it. In an endgame like this one, it pays off to keep someone around who knows his job. No doctored cigarettes for Christmas.:)

Agan, that was too short a season, but I'm glad you forgave me for my hand in your death; and sorry I didn't live long enough to avenge you as promised, but I think it was for the better like this.

Zil - meh, being busy and distracted shouldn't have got you lynched, but crap happens in Werewolf. Sorry, mate.

Kath, pity you got killed so early, hope we'll get to play together again soon. And Bom, I hope we'll see you playing more (both playing more games and playing more)!

Crazy game, but I enjoyed it a lot. Thanks for modding, Boro!

[Galadriel55]

G55, that was some awesome seering first time around! Dreaming a wolf on N1, staying cool and not giving yourself away is quite a feat, as I know from experience (I lost my nerves and came out on D1, but luckily it all worked out.)

Thanks. But that only happened because I wasn't there on Day1. :D:p:cool:

[satansaloser2005]

Sally, you actually did hunt me?! I thought you were bluffing! :D

Nay, I really thought you were being so sympathetic because you were trying to get on my good side. I couldn't decide between you and Nerwen, and at the last minute I texted Boro and told him I was hunting you instead. :rolleyes:

That, in fact, is why I made such a big deal of saying who I'd hunted, because I wanted to make sure the wolves didn't kill me, at least that Day.

Of course the last Day I was hunting the nasssssssssssssty Kit creature. <3

[Galadriel55]

Just came across this in a reread:

After all this is over, I actually have quite the interesting story....

I'm all ears. :Merisu:

Nay, I really thought you were being so sympathetic because you were trying to get on my good side. I couldn't decide between you and Nerwen, and at the last minute I texted Boro and told him I was hunting you instead. :rolleyes:

That, in fact, is why I made such a big deal of saying who I'd hunted, because I wanted to make sure the wolves didn't kill me, at least that Day.

Well, it turned out ok anyways, since the wolves also thought you were bluffing them, or daring them to kill you and sit on the nail.

[satansaloser2005]

Me hunting you was the story. :rolleyes:

[Galadriel55]

Me hunting you was the story. :rolleyes:

Ooooohhhhhhh!......... :D

[Kitanna]

Kit, I don't know what it was - usually your wolf-self manages to look quite innocent to me, but this time I felt from the start that there was something foul about you; maybe I'm finally developping a wolf radar after all these games, or maybe I was just lucky.


I better hope I don't play wolf again if the world is getting wise! I better start using a new tactic, crazy.

Actually, I'm afraid there was talk of killing you. By Night Four we'd guessed you and [B]Shasta as a possible Cobbler and Ranger, but we weren't sure which was which, and Kit was worried about G55 being protected– as indeed she was. So you were both under consideration for a while.
Nerwen, I smacked my head when I saw G55 was protected. I should have ignored you completely and sent the kill as Shasta. ;)

[Nerwen]

Nerwen, I smacked my head when I saw G55 was protected. I should have ignored you completely and sent the kill as Shasta.
Ah, well, I suggested killing G55 on Night Three, if you'll remember– so we're quits.;)

[Kitanna]

Ah, well, I suggested killing G55 on Night Three, if you'll remember– so we're quits.;)
But we foolishly decided on Pitch in this village full of ordos.

[Nerwen]

But we foolishly decided on Pitch in this village full of ordos.
Yes– I think the village should realise we wolves were getting just as frustrated as they were at everyone turning up ordo.

[Kitanna]

Haha.

This game is most certainly going into my most memorable games category. Thanks, Boro!

[Galadriel55]

This game is most certainly going into my most memorable games category. Thanks, Boro!

Ditto! :D (not that I have that many games up my sleeve yet to talk... :rolleyes:)

But thank you very much indeed Boro! It was really fun!

[Galadriel55]

I just realised something: in all of my games Nerwen was either a Ranger or a Wolf. I haven't seen a Nerwen!ordo yet, or any other special role other than wolf or ranger. :eek::confused:

[satansaloser2005]

I just realised something: in all of my games Nerwen was either a Ranger or a Wolf. I haven't seen a Nerwen!ordo yet, or any other special role other than wolf or ranger. :eek::confused:

Hmph. That's because you missed both of my recent games. :smokin:

[Galadriel55]

Hmph. That's because you missed both of my recent games. :smokin:

If it's "both" then I don't remember one. I did read your Shelob one, but since I wasn't playing myself I hardly remember any impressions... And wasn't Nerwen a spiderling for most of the game?

PS: I like your signature. :D I just noticed it.

[satansaloser2005]

Clearly you missed the insanity that was this game (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=16272) (although to be fair, Nerwen was a seer, nay, the seer).

And you'll find that while Nerwen did end up having a role in my Shelob game, I wasn't the one who gave it to her. :cool:


PS: Thanks! :)

[Galadriel55]

Clearly you missed the insanity that was this game (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=16272) (although to be fair, Nerwen was a seer, nay, the seer).

Indeed. I wasnt around yet when it was played.

And you'll find that while Nerwen did end up having a role in my Shelob game, I wasn't the one who gave it to her. :cool:

True again. :D

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I've been trying to rep people for this game, but it always tell me "you need to rep more people" blah blah blah. :(

[Boromir88]

I've been trying to rep people for this game, but it always tell me "you need to rep more people" blah blah blah. :(

Whenever you get the chance, I got the tip to neg rep spammers. ;)

[Nerwen]

I've been trying to rep people for this game, but it always tell me "you need to rep more people" blah blah blah. :(

Same here. So apologies, un-repped ones!