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Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 11:09 AM
Nights 1 and 2
the phantom
Mac
Shasta?
rather Agan than Lommy but maybe one of them? or even Boro without mentioning it??
Night 3
Lottie
Boro? Lommy?
Night4
pretty sure it was Firefoot and Eomer
Honestly, the most logical explanation to me would be that she dreamed innocent the phantom, Shasta, Lommy, Eomer and Firefoot, and guilty Lottie and Mac. The eighth dream? Guess what, Agan actually makes more sense to me than Boro, just because of the timing. Of course, if she received a confusing message about Boro's role, she might have just kept quiet, which would be enough to muddle up my maths.
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 11:18 AM
Is this what you are thinking:
If:
morm is a wolf give vote to Form or McCaber
Form is a wolf give vote to morm or Lommy
Kath is a wolf give vote to Eomer or Mith
Mith is a wolf give vote to Kath or Shasta
McCaber is a wolf give vote to Boro
No dreams on this list as wolf give vote to Sally
That spreads it out and I'm willing to give Boro the single vote as well as it's known that he's at least not a wolf though his motivations are unclear.
Not really, we need to be able to figure out if someone is innocent as well.
Rather:
If morm is innocent, give an extra vote to morm
If morm is guilty, give an extra vote to Sally
If Form is innocent, give an extra vote to Form
If Form is guilty, give an extra vote to Lommy
If Kath is innocent, give an extra vote to Kath
If Kath is guilty, give an extra vote to Eomer
If Mith is innocent, give an extra vote to Mith
If Mith is guilty, give an extra vote to Shasta
If McCaber is innocent, don't give an extra vote
If McCaber is guilty, give an extra vote to Boro
If the village is screwing up or there's something else alarming such as Boro being a wolf (we can clarify this the next Day if needs be), give an extra vote to McCaber
Also, Kuru the God, can you tell us:
What happens if the dead reach a tie when voting for whom to empower?
If the dead abstain from voting, will we be told?
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 11:20 AM
PS. I know my voting scheme is not perfect, but I can't think of a better one. We give the dead a lot of power to randomly affect the lynch, but personally I don't mind as we're lynching one of the great unknowns - Form, morm, Mith, Kath or McCaber - anyway (or??) and at this point I don't really care whom because I don't have very much idea who the remaining wolves are. Mean but pragmatic.
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 11:22 AM
Also just saying that the panic button can't be not empowering anyone because that's an option one wolf in the dead thread (for example Lottie who has nothing to lose anymore) can mess up.
Mithalwen
06-10-2015, 11:25 AM
Is this what you are thinking:
If:
morm is a wolf give vote to Form or McCaber
Form is a wolf give vote to morm or Lommy
Kath is a wolf give vote to Eomer or Mith
Mith is a wolf give vote to Kath or Shasta
McCaber is a wolf give vote to Boro
No dreams on this list as wolf give vote to Sally
That spreads it out and I'm willing to give Boro the single vote as well as it's known that he's at least not a wolf though his motivations are unclear.
Yes that would do nicely. Save of course that until we actually vote we don't know how the double vote will affect the lynch. Innocents may be innocence doesn't equal infallible judgement. But I suppose we just have to take our chances
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 11:29 AM
Posting to remind myself that Eomer asked me a question of sorts and I need to respond to it. If he could clarify what he means (as I can't go back through the thread), that would be lovely. I'll return in a bit over four hours, and am unlikely to check the thread again before then, sorry. :(
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 12:26 PM
Posting to remind people we should decide about the dead thread communication asap. If no better suggestion emerges I will be reading their vote according to my scheme above. (Assuming I'm alive, which I should be.)
Currently the most suspicious about morm. He has seemed quite innocent so far, but recently he's been giving me the vibe of a wolf who feels the tide turning against him. Notably in his way to ignore what Nerwen said about Eomer, Shasta and me, and proposing a play-it-safe yet fairly uninformative voting scheme. Granted, especially the latter might just seem fishy to me because he and I have (and have always had :D) a very different way of thinking, but he's the only one that's ringing my alarms atm.
I still think Form mostly seems like a confused innocent and Mith seems pretty good too, as does McCaber. Kath is a big question mark.
I hope Nerwen & the other dead let us know if they have reason to believe Boro is pulling our leg, and that we leave the option open for them to do so.
mormegil
06-10-2015, 12:30 PM
Yes that would do nicely. Save of course that until we actually vote we don't know how the double vote will affect the lynch. Innocents may be innocence doesn't equal infallible judgement. But I suppose we just have to take our chances
This is exactly why I'm trying to avoid having a 1:1 assignment that Lommy has. The impact on the vote today could be harmful. Whereas we help mitigate that risk by giving the dead some options.
sorry about today, I'm writing hurried posts between meetings.:rolleyes:
Boromir88
06-10-2015, 12:32 PM
Will you please tell us if you are on our side? This response did not reassure me of that. A werebear type role would want the wolves eliminated too.
The only ones who should be worried about my allegiance are the wolves. I'm no were, grizzly, koala, or any kind of bear. I'm just a lonely killer, temporarily satisfied by the blood of wolves.
I'm cool with Lommy's scheme, that would cover all possible options.
Although, Mith's idea here:
However I have had an idea that is either bonkers or genius and I am not sure which. We know that there must be a majority of innocents in the dead thread now and that they seem to be horrifically active. I know given my vehement opposition to rigged voting day one but if we arranged a tie either of the unknowns or even go the whole hog and all just self vote then the dead can either take out a known wolf or if they don't know any leave us all to bicker another day. Too much of a risk of something going wrong?
I would put more on the genius. I mean it would be the best way for the Dead to have power and help us. I don't think it could go wrong on their end. It may go wrong on the living end, simply if one living wolf breaks rank and messes it up. Of course it would mean they're exposed as a wolf, but by the time we may not have the numbers to do anything about it. We still can't be sure if there's 1 pack or 2, or even if I was right about Lalaith.
To answer morm's question on my suspicions of Lalaith/why I targeted her. As I said yesterday, it was a later decision, because I had in mind to leave the clue as I had before (calling Eomer "den-dweller"), but when I was going through everything from that day and Nerwen's reveals. Lalaith had been playing under the radar, but still was sounding really certain about Lottie and Mac's guilt. And after all these years I still remember Mith's words about sounding certain as a sign of a wolf. Granted, that's a bit simplified, but I figured her certainty made her look guilty more than gifted, and worse than Eomer's posts about sacrificing one of the lovers for information.
mormegil
06-10-2015, 12:39 PM
The only ones who should be worried about my allegiance are the wolves. I'm no were, grizzly, koala, or any kind of bear. I'm just a lonely killer, temporarily satisfied by the blood of wolves.
Does this raise red flags to anyone else? The use of the word temporarily creeps me out.
Boromir88
06-10-2015, 01:08 PM
Does this raise red flags to anyone else? The use of the word temporarily creeps me out.
I'm not blaming you if it does, just as I won't blame Nerwen for what she said about me yesterday. I'm making no mistake about intentionally hiding things, but if you're trying to paint me as a bigger threat to the village win over the unknown wolves, well this raises concerns about you.
I'll put it this way...village can lynch me today if they so want to, but I doubt they can beat the wolves without my help, at least right now. (If another wolf dies in a lynch today, or by my hands tonight, than it might change the dynamics to where the village decides I am a bigger threat than the remaining wolves).
The other option is to put up with an outed wildcard, who you can't be entirely sure if he's with the village team, or not. But you know he's not in a wolf pack and has shown the willingness and ability to go after wolves (and show restraint when needed that overall I think has benefitted the village more than the wolves).
Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-10-2015, 01:13 PM
Posting to remind myself that Eomer asked me a question of sorts and I need to respond to it. If he could clarify what he means (as I can't go back through the thread), that would be lovely. I'll return in a bit over four hours, and am unlikely to check the thread again before then, sorry. :(
You listed McCaber as innocent yesterday; just wondering if you still feel that way.
For what it's worth, my feeling right now is that Mithalwen is innocent - though that's based on tone of posts rather than anything else. Need to go back and check her posts. Leaning toward lynching Morm or Kath today. Agree mostly with Lommy's summary of Nerwen's dream-activity plus her criticism of Morm's unwillingness to acknowledge the simplest (and surely only reasonable) conclusion as to which living villagers were dreamt of and found innocent of wolvery.
Am still flip-flopping on Form.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-10-2015, 01:56 PM
Here's the problem with that and something I keep coming back to, she said don't vote for them today but never did she indicate innocence.
The Seer telling you "don't vote these people" doesn't indicate innocence? :confused:
In any case, Boro is beginning to worry me. I'm aware you've been killing wolves, Boro, but with the way you've been talking about your role I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible for you to win with the village.
I agree with those that think morm's unwillingness to acknowledge my soul's fire and her dreams; I think Lommy pretty much tied it up with her recent analysis. As far as Mith goes, I honestly don't have much of a read on her but what I do have makes me lean innocent on her, I think.
I half wonder if we shouldn't ask the dead thread a simple question, like how many wolves are in the dead thread right now? Like -
If it's 1, give Lommy the extra vote
If it's 2, give Shasta the extra vote
If it's 3, give Eomer the extra vote
If it's 4, give Mith the extra vote
If it's 5, give Boro the extra vote
If it's 6, give McCaber the extra vote
- or something like that. Thoughts?
Mithalwen
06-10-2015, 02:08 PM
But would they know definitively? And they cant tell us who. Seems like a lowish priority compared to knowing a firmly identified wolf. I suppose there is no chance of anyone returning from dead? I am a bit puzzled that Nerwen's body wasn't found since the Seer doesn't come back from the dead.
Given that time is creeping on for the Eastern bloc may be we should firm up the strategy soonish.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-10-2015, 02:09 PM
Unless I'm missing something, Shasta, they won't have that information.
Boromir88
06-10-2015, 02:42 PM
Morm's pairs would work the best if Nerwen got a wolf in one of her final dreams.
Lommy's if she got innocents. But it leaves the door open for a bad lynch since the innocents aren't infallible.
Mith's suggestion of everyone self-voting and letting the dead decide if they know a living wolf would be great, if everyone goes through with it. But it leaves the door open for wolf funny business, which would out their wolvery. Although I would just kill them in the night then, that might be enough of a deterrence?
It's really up to the collective of the village. I have no problem self-voting.
mormegil
06-10-2015, 03:02 PM
I agree with those that think morm's unwillingness to acknowledge my soul's fire and her dreams;
I'm a bit frustrated at this because I think you are all missing something. First, Nerwen never stated she was the seer. She implied it and I believe her. However, she only indicated dead people were wolves or innocent. She never definitively stated that any on that list were innocent. I'm encouraging skepticism that everyone on the list is a known innocent. She never came out and said it, why? She knew that she was likely going to get killed at night, it's frustrating that she didn't reveal everything she knows, so we've spent the whole day arguing about that and about trying to come up with some way for the dead to communicate with us. A plan was proposed a few hours ago and has been since rehashed and delayed by other...why? It's getting very late for our dead to organize this and it's because of a delay. Please notice Shasta that on my list I proposed hours ago, I had the list that Nerwen thought. Did you intentionally miss that?
I encourage skepticism of Boro and I'm glad you at least are seeing this, why can't you see that we ought not to give a free pass to those who were not stated empirically as innocent by Nerwen.
I still vote for my plan for the dead to vote but I'm sure it will be delayed and rehashed so that we come up with nothing solid again...congrats wolves a minor victory in your corner toDay.
Finally here properly, though I won't pretend to be anything but very sleepy! Numbers aren't my forte, and with no concrete evidence on how many wolves are left I won't even try to go near statistics, but I've read through (I know who is alive and dead this time I think!) and will try and weigh in.
Starting with:
Mith - However I have had an idea that is either bonkers or genius and I am not sure which. We know that there must be a majority of innocents in the dead thread now and that they seem to be horrifically active. I know given my vehement opposition to rigged voting day one but if we arranged a tie either of the unknowns or even go the whole hog and all just self vote then the dead can either take out a known wolf or if they don't know any leave us all to bicker another day. Too much of a risk of something going wrong?
If the numbers work (and others with better maths skills than me will need to check that) then this seems like a reasonable plan. The self vote would be an interesting way to do it, as any deviation from the plan could be immediately read as wolvish and give us leads for the next Day. Trying to create a tie has rather failed previously, so may not be the safest way to go. Though, perhaps a Lommy-style paired list where each votes for the other may work to create such a tie?
Mithalwen
06-10-2015, 03:12 PM
Kath, I would rather go for self vote than arrange a tie, Anyone can abstain if they wish I don't think anyone is in immediate modfire danger and any funny business can be dealt with. Should get a wolf shouldn't lose and innocent.
However if that won't fly I would go for Morm's plan and take fewer options for us to give Dead flexibility. Lommie's seems to risky and as a potential lynchee I prefer to trust the dead who w know must have a majority of angels else the game would be over I think...
Someone created this list - I want to say Lommy? Might have been Nerwen ... have updated it with the new information from the narrations.
Alive Innocent
Sally
Boro
Lommy
Eomer
Shasta
Alive Unknown
Form
McCaber
morm
Mith
Kath
Dead Innocent
Aganzir
Greenie
the phantom
Firefoot
Nerwen
Dead Unknown
Rikae
Nogrod
Rune
Lalaith
Legate
Nilp
Dead Guilty
Mac
Lottie
The potential dreams from Nerwen seem fairly straightforward. Lommy's analysis of the posts that suggest each dream didn't raise any red flags. I can see morm's argument that Nerwen said 'don't vote' rather than 'trust' or 'innocent' but given she seemed to be playing the role of Seer under the guise of something ... not quite Seerish, then a straightforward 'I dreamed of so-and-so and they were this' doesn't really fit the bill. Though why she stated the phantom's innocence twice is a mystery still.
Therefore I agree that votes need to hit:
Form
McCaber
morm
Mith
Kath
I am willing to be part of a try at a tie. If it goes wrong and I die, you won't have lost any special role, but I don't know if we have the numbers to afford losing anyone. Statistics people, any ideas there?
Mith's self vote plan sounds like the most fun, but I will defer to those who have been active!
Mith what was morm's plan? I've either missed it or not realised it was a plan ...
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 03:17 PM
Quick comment - maybe the self vote scheme toMorrow. ToDay it's already getting late and if a lot of the dead have cast their votes early we can easily lynch a known innocent. Plus this way we give Nerwen one more Night to bag a wolf, making the scheme more effective. Also if we do the self vote thing I suggest we agree on it toDay or early toMorrow and the unknowns vote first. If they are innocent they shouldn't have anything against it. If someone messes up we known innocents can vote him/her in turn.
If Lalaith is a wolf give your vote to:
Form
Sally
McCaber
If she's not, give the vote to:
Boromir88
Thinlómien
Eomer
If you don't know give your vote to:
mormegil
Shastanis Althreduin
Mithalwen
Kath
This one?
Quick comment - maybe the self vote scheme toMorrow. ToDay it's already getting late and if a lot of the dead have cast their votes early we can easily lynch a known innocent. Plus this way we give Nerwen one more Night to bag a wolf, making the scheme more effective. Also if we do the self vote thing I suggest we agree on it toDay or early toMorrow and the unknowns vote first. If they are innocent they shouldn't have anything against it. If someone messes up we known innocents can vote him/her in turn.
Makes sense. Do we want to aim for the tie toDay then?
Unknown:
Form
McCaber
morm
Mith
Kath
Known:
Sally
Boro
Lommy
Eomer
Shasta
No one has voted yet right? So can we simply match up pairs?
Form <--> sally
McCaber <--> Boro
morm <--> Lommy
Mith <--> Eomer
Kath <--> Shasta
Mithalwen
06-10-2015, 03:26 PM
If Lalaith is a wolf give your vote to:
Form
Sally
McCaber
If she's not, give the vote to:
Boromir88
Thinlómien
Eomer
If you don't know give your vote to:
mormegil
Shastanis Althreduin
Mithalwen
Kath
This one?
morm is a wolf give vote to Form or McCaber
Form is a wolf give vote to morm or Lommy
Kath is a wolf give vote to Eomer or Mith
Mith is a wolf give vote to Kath or Shasta
McCaber is a wolf give vote to Boro
No dreams on this list as wolf give vote to Sally
in his 5.47 post
Boromir88
06-10-2015, 03:28 PM
If the numbers work (and others with better maths skills than me will need to check that) then this seems like a reasonable plan. The self vote would be an interesting way to do it, as any deviation from the plan could be immediately read as wolvish and give us leads for the next Day. Trying to create a tie has rather failed previously, so may not be the safest way to go. Though, perhaps a Lommy-style paired list where each votes for the other may work to create such a tie?
It's probably going to be too late and risky for an orchestrated tied vote. I'm bowing out of the Dead relaying information discussion, my aid only goes so far. It's got to be the collective of the village to decide.
Rest assured, until my very last breath, I will purge this home of the wolves. I don't hold it against anyone to be skeptical (I would be too in your shoes), as long as you don't hold it against me that there are certain things I can't decide for you.
As it stands, I'm going under the assumption we can't orchestrate a tied vote today. Therefore...
I have a good feeling about Mith today. Her pressing action and plans look the most innocent. I won't vote for sally today either.
Shasta's always a tricky one. Once you think he's safe he'll get you. Considering Nerwen and him have a Sun/stars/moon of my life thing that's continued on over the years. It's never certain what they're up to, but considering Nerwen's role, Shasta seems like a safe pair of hands too.
I'm up in the air about the rest and therefor that's where my vote will go today...
Form
Eomer
McCaber
Morm
Lommy
Kath
Yeah Mith that's the one I spotted, but that's a plan for the Dead not the Living surely?
Mithalwen
06-10-2015, 03:32 PM
Ok Kath's embracing of the self vote encourages me as to her innocence . . But I can understand that it might be a risk if not all innocent dead are active and we have 2 know stateside wolves who could cause trouble.
Mithalwen
06-10-2015, 03:37 PM
Yeah Mith that's the one I spotted, but that's a plan for the Dead not the Living surely?
Well yesl That was to allow them flexibility to avoind skewing a free lynch vote. It is only just now that organising the living has become an issue.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-10-2015, 03:38 PM
Among other things I don't think I'll be getting any more pms anyway and we've got (effectively) a whole bunch of known innocents now.
What do Boro and Morm think she meant by this?
Nerwen, the Seer, on what she correctly guessed to be her last day among the living, specifically left myself, Shasta and Lommy off the list of potential wolves.
She trusted Boro and Sally, who revealed their special roles. Two people - Boro and Sally - does not a bunch make.
Now, I believe we can add McCaber to this list, given Sally's post yesterday suggesting his innocence. But this was before Nerwen said her stuff (I think) so surely her 'bunch' was us five.
I'm baffled that Boro is still talking about suspecting me and Lommy. Maybe less baffled by Morm's similar behaviour, as this could be a last-ditch wolvish tactic by him.
Unknown:
Form
McCaber
morm
Mith
Kath
Known:
Sally
Boro
Lommy
Eomer
Shasta
No one has voted yet right? So can we simply match up pairs?
Form <--> sally
McCaber <--> Boro
morm <--> Lommy
Mith <--> Eomer
Kath <--> Shasta
Wait, tired brain just realised this is a terrible plan, as it could lead to lynching a known innocent with the wolves in the mix! Only the top five should be getting votes at all: Form, McCaber, morm, Mith, Kath.
So ... yeah, the logistics are tougher. I am going to have to head to bed in the very near future. I am happy to vote any of that list, but rather feel I should vote Form for continuity or morm because it did feel a little like clutching at straws with Nerwen's possible dreams.
++morm[/QUOTE]
I have to go pass out now. morm's focus on the lack of specific wording by Nerwen felt forced, and he's on the unknown list. If you want to aim for a tie, feel free to add my name in to the mix. As I said, as long as we can afford the numbers my death won't lose the village anything in terms of roles if the tie doesn't work out.
McCaber
06-10-2015, 03:54 PM
A self-vote does sound like a good plan, but I still think I'm skeptical of Boro. It just seems like a role screaming to have its own separate agenda apart from the village's own.
Boromir88
06-10-2015, 03:55 PM
I'm baffled that Boro is still talking about suspecting me and Lommy. Maybe less baffled by Morm's similar behaviour, as this could be a last-ditch wolvish tactic by him.
For myself, I wasn't paying the greatest attention to what was happening yesterday. I was basically gone the entire day and quickly read it from my phone before being most perturbed by Form's posts and voting for him.
Since that's the case, for today, I revise my list to...
Form
McCaber
Morm
Kath
Mithalwen
06-10-2015, 04:14 PM
please. Four hours to go and I think 1 am for Eastern bloc.
Since Kath has voted and there is a feeling my plan should wait are we going for Mormegil's scheme for Dead vote?
It is getting late this side of the pond even the Dead may sleep.
We need it to be clear or we will miss out again
Boromir88
06-10-2015, 04:21 PM
please. Four hours to go and I think 1 am for Eastern bloc.
Since Kath has voted and there is a feeling my plan should wait are we going for Mormegil's scheme for Dead vote?
It is getting late this side of the pond even the Dead may sleep.
We need it to be clear or we will miss out again
If the dead trust my intentions and the living trust me enough to not lynch me today...I tell them now go with morm's plan and if they signal a wolf I will try to take the wolf out tonight.
mormegil
06-10-2015, 04:21 PM
please. Four hours to go and I think 1 am for Eastern bloc.
Since Kath has voted and there is a feeling my plan should wait are we going for Mormegil's scheme for Dead vote?
It is getting late this side of the pond even the Dead may sleep.
We need it to be clear or we will miss out again
It looks as though we've failed to come to an agreement. I would hope that the dead can give their vote to somebody that they feel will benefit us the most. I would suggest we look at those who continued to delay it as I said earlier...Shasta, Lommy, Boro, Kath, and Mith come to mind.
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 04:26 PM
Two people - Boro and Sally - does not a bunch make.
True, but things change. As for your question, I do in fact still trust McCaber toDay.
Mithalwen
06-10-2015, 04:27 PM
I now realise that Lommie made an unilateral declaration and tha she didn't care about lynching an inniocent. rather cavalier attitude and not very fair. Waters muddied badly...... very frustrating
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 04:29 PM
I'm back at my computer at last! Catching up now.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-10-2015, 04:32 PM
I don't trust morm re: everything that's been said thus far vis-a-vis my light's innocent dreams, but the more I think about it the more I'm wary of Boro. Now, obviously I can't claim to know how Kuru set the role up, but I can't help but wonder if Boro doesn't have some sort of power to prevent him from being lynched? I mean, with a third-party-esque role, it pretty much all goes to waste if they're the random Day 1 lynch, for example.
Honestly, I could vote Boro today. Sorry bro. :p
If not Boro, my vote will likely be for morm.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-10-2015, 04:33 PM
Also, can I just say how eerie it is that Eomer and I are basically on the same wavelength? :confused:
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 04:37 PM
Is this what you are thinking:
If:
morm is a wolf give vote to Form or McCaber
Form is a wolf give vote to morm or Lommy
Kath is a wolf give vote to Eomer or Mith
Mith is a wolf give vote to Kath or Shasta
McCaber is a wolf give vote to Boro
No dreams on this list as wolf give vote to Sally
That spreads it out and I'm willing to give Boro the single vote as well as it's known that he's at least not a wolf though his motivations are unclear.
Okay let's go with this scheme. It's not the best but it's widely agreed on.
ToMorrow, let's do the self-vote thing. If you were not cleared by Nerwen, you are expected to vote as early as possible. Don't worry, we others will definitely lynch anyone who votes for anyone else except themself.
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 04:56 PM
She implied it and I believe her. However, she only indicated dead people were wolves or innocent. She never definitively stated that any on that list were innocent. I'm encouraging skepticism that everyone on the list is a known innocent. She never came out and said it, why? She knew that she was likely going to get killed at night, it's frustrating that she didn't reveal everything she knows, so we've spent the whole day arguing about that and about trying to come up with some way for the dead to communicate with usIf she didn't dream of me, Shasta and Eomer, pray tell me, who did she dream of? Why would she have intentionally withheld important information from us while implying the innocence of people whose roles she didn't know??
Definitely not supporting making a tie toDay. That will just make a mess with all the proposed voting schemes going around too. Let's just lynch one of the unknowns. ToMorrow we can do the genious self-vote scheme.
I now realise that Lommie made an unilateral declaration and tha she didn't care about lynching an inniocent. rather cavalier attitude and not very fair. Waters muddied badly...... very frustratingThat's not what I meant. I said I didn't care which of you unknowns we lynch because I didn't have a strong opinion about which one of you is guilty, so every option seemd roughly as good to me.
However, currently I would say the unknowns are from the most to least suspicious:
morm
Form
Kath
Mith
McCaber
Sally I trust. Boro I'm still not 100% certain of, but it's hardly the issue for toDay, probably not even toMorrow.
Also I need to vote soon and I'll probably go for morm.
I think toDay everyone should
1) vote for whoever they think is a wolf out of Nerwen's suggested lynch candidates
2) say yay or nay for the self-vote scheme toMorrow
before they go to sleep.
Boromir88
06-10-2015, 05:02 PM
Honestly, I could vote Boro today. Sorry bro. :p
If not Boro, my vote will likely be for morm.
That's fine. I understand it just turns your stomach thinking you would have to credit someone of my questionable character if you manage to win this...
I've come to the conclusion you can't without my help. If you feel otherwise, then good luck. My fate is virtually sealed now. What is it that Beorn says? "I don't care much for dwarves, but I hate orcs"
Something of the sort. Replace dwarves with villagers and orcs with wolves and that's where I'm at. I only can help as much as you are willing to accept my offer. No risk. No reward.
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 05:11 PM
Hey Boro, if you're indeed what you claim to be and on the side of the village, cool down. I don't think anyone except Shasta really wants to lynch you toDay, and even he only considers it an option.
You must understand why we can't trust you 100%. I'll give you cookies (or raw meat if that's what you prefer ;)) for killing Mac for us, though.
Personally I still think we should trust Boro unless Nerwen & co let us know we shouldn't. And we should give them a way to do so, which we didn't toDay, but maybe they will indicate it toMorrow if we do the self-vote Day, or the Day after if it comes and if Boro is alive.
Boro is not our #1 priority toDay.
Mithalwen
06-10-2015, 05:13 PM
Obviously I am pro my own scheme unless the situation changes dramatically overnight. The fact that Kath was up for it inclines me to think her innocent. I shan't vote for her unless I need to save my own neck. So I shall have to stay up a while before voting.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-10-2015, 05:15 PM
Boro is not our #1 priority toDay.
Unless all the wolves are dead and the game continues until he's killed all of us. :p
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 05:17 PM
Like, if Boro is a traditional werebear, we should start worrying when there's repeatedly only one Night kill. We're still 10 people so he's not going to win any time soon if he only wins alone. Also, if he really only won alone why wouldn't he have killed someone every Night? It doesn't really add up. Maybe there's something in his role that allows him to win with either side, in which case we should convince him the village is winning and it makes sense for him to side with us, which surprisingly enough actually looks likely atm. *pats Boro on the head* Nice pet bear, good boy. Want more cookies or raw meat now? We are nice little innocent villagers, the wolves are nasty. :Merisu:
edit: xed with Mith and Eomer!
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 05:34 PM
I cannot bear to lynch two of my princes in a row. Besides, I still find Morm more worrisome at this point; Boro could have hid for a while longer rather than bring all this attention on himself.
(Yes, I realize, and no, I don't regret it.)
~~~~
Who's a good little prince? Is it Boro? It is Boro! *scratches Boro behind the ears* Good boy. Sit with Sally. Good boy! Sally loves you, my darling. You're Sally's clever boy, yes you are. If Sally gives you some snuggles, will you tell me what sort of tricks you can do?
:Merisu:
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 05:36 PM
Oh dear Sally, I was just about to vote and go to sleep, and now I need to think??
*goes to reread the rules*
Thinlómien
06-10-2015, 05:41 PM
Ah scratch that, whatever. I'll think toMorrow if it seems necessary.
++morm
Is actually the only person who seems genuinely fishy.
Dead, please heed morm's scheme.
Living, self-vote party toMorrow! Unless something really weird happens toDay or during the Night. In any case we should have time to mess things up.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-10-2015, 05:49 PM
I cannot bear to lynch two of my princes in a row. Besides, I still find Morm more worrisome at this point; Boro could have hid for a while longer rather than bring all this attention on himself.
(Yes, I realize, and no, I don't regret it.)
~~~~
Who's a good little prince? Is it Boro? It is Boro! *scratches Boro behind the ears* Good boy. Sit with Sally. Good boy! Sally loves you, my darling. You're Sally's clever boy, yes you are. If Sally gives you some snuggles, will you tell me what sort of tricks you can do?
:Merisu:
Wait, that happened?
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 05:51 PM
Wait, that happened?
Hmmmm. I made a bear pun and I think Lommy may have read too far into it. Whoops. :rolleyes:
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 05:52 PM
Wait, that happened?
Also and more importantly, I'm trying to bribe my beloved prince into being a little less vague if possible.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-10-2015, 05:54 PM
Dude, I've gone with Sally-McCaber. What's up? :confused:
Shastanis Althreduin
06-10-2015, 06:00 PM
Dude, I've gone with Sally-McCaber. What's up? :confused:
That was my question.
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 06:02 PM
Seriously, I was just making a joke, I swear. Scout's honor.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-10-2015, 06:07 PM
Seriously, I was just making a joke, I swear. Scout's honor.
Right.
It's really late here, and any joke that doesn't begin with "An Englishman, an Irishman, and a Scotsman walk into a bar..." is going over my head.
Guess I should vote.
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 06:10 PM
Right.
It's really late here, and any joke that doesn't begin with "An Englishman, an Irishman, and a Scotsman walk into a bar..." is going over my head.
Guess I should vote.
Sorry. Long day of being far too serious. Something has to be amusing today, but I certainly didn't mean to confuse.
My brief thoughts on Boro and Morm still stand, of course. The latter will probably be getting my vote.
mormegil
06-10-2015, 06:17 PM
I'm going to vote Kath or Boromir, not that it will amount to much I fear. I wish you all the best in your hunt. Please don't continue to trust Boro after this. He's a loose cannon and will lead to your ruin. I also think Kath is a wolf whose done a remarkable job hiding. I think today you've decided to go after the most outspoken person...now I know how phantom must feel.:rolleyes:
Boromir88
06-10-2015, 06:42 PM
Thank you my dearies, sally and Lommy. Just be aware I'm in a helpful mood tonight and I can't guarantee my mood won't change tomorrow
mormegil
06-10-2015, 06:49 PM
Thank you my dearies, sally and Lommy. Just be aware I'm in a helpful mood tonight and I can't guarantee my mood won't change tomorrow
So my guess is Boro get details as to his mood and if he's for or against. Interesting. I think he's too much a loose cannon to continue. Think about it, we know who he is and the liability he poses.
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 06:50 PM
But my prince loves me! He would never hurt his Sally! Right, Boro?
Right, Boro?
:eek:
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 06:54 PM
So my guess is Boro get details as to his mood and if he's for or against. Interesting. I think he's too much a loose cannon to continue. Think about it, we know who he is and the liability he poses.
In any case, he's also a known role, and I'm inclined to protect that, at least for the moment.
mormegil
06-10-2015, 07:02 PM
In any case, he's also a known role, and I'm inclined to protect that, at least for the moment.
That makes sense, but what bothered me yesterDay is that nobody would even consider it. It took me harping on it all day to get somebody to listen. I think you need to consider his "mood" when he makes kills at night. He may start picking off innocents. I think the Lalaith thing still looks fishy to me. The Mac kill didn't as I suspected him. I'm glad some others are now at least getting nervous. If I'm lynched today, at least I will feel like I helped in getting him to talk more about it and let us know more about his true character.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-10-2015, 07:08 PM
If Boro is half-evil then I'll be happy to lynch him when all the wolves are down.
For today, ++MORMEGIL and hopefully the Dead can give us some info on one of the others.
Very curious about the Ranger.
McCaber
06-10-2015, 07:14 PM
Vote count:
Kath -> morm
Lommy -> morm (2)
Eomer -> morm (3)
Left to vote: Shasta, sally, morm, Boro, Mith, Formy, and myself.
mormegil
06-10-2015, 07:19 PM
++Kath
Most of you are a bunch of blind fools. Love you all but you are being foolish.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-10-2015, 07:22 PM
++morm
Maybe we should lynch Boro tomorrow.
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 07:23 PM
If Boro is half-evil then I'll be happy to lynch him when all the wolves are down.
For today, ++MORMEGIL and hopefully the Dead can give us some info on one of the others.
Very curious about the Ranger.
Yes to all of this, and to be perfectly clear....
++Morm
My gut prefers Mith, but she seems to be off the table, so I have to go with the options I have.
McCaber
06-10-2015, 07:23 PM
My opinion on Formy has been getting worse and worse. Even looking back at his Day 1 seems a lot like an attempt to float by without ruffling feathers and put him under the radar, and his posting yesterDay and toDay looks to me like a wolf hurriedly trying to float possibilities that don't leave a finger pointed straight at him.
EDIT: crossed x3
McCaber
06-10-2015, 07:33 PM
Rereading more, I'm just getting more convinced.
++Formendacil
Boromir88
06-10-2015, 07:34 PM
++mormegil
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 07:40 PM
Do I hear the pitter patter of little boots drawing nearer? :Merisu:
Formendacil
06-10-2015, 07:57 PM
Just in for the deadline (I hope/think)--so a vote before I'm in Failure to Vote status a second time.
++Formendacil
It's not fair to vote for anyone when I haven't dug into them at all toDay--though if a cursory look at the voting record is accurate, Morm is about to die today. Ah, well, I tried.
-The Shoemaker's Dessert
mormegil
06-10-2015, 07:59 PM
Just in for the deadline (I hope/think)--so a vote before I'm in Failure to Vote status a second time.
++Formendacil
It's not fair to vote for anyone when I haven't dug into them at all toDay--though if a cursory look at the voting record is accurate, Morm is about to die today. Ah, well, I tried.
-The Shoemaker's Dessert
Wow, thanks Formwolf.
Kuruharan
06-10-2015, 08:00 PM
Narration to follow.
satansaloser2005
06-10-2015, 08:02 PM
Well, since everyone is so quiet....
Form: After playing so long without this young gent, I don't wish him to go, and I don't find him wolfish at the moment, certainly not to the extent McCaber does.
McCaber: Stay out of trouble. I mean it.
Boro: Behave, my boy, and perhaps you'll get a treat in the Morning. ;)
Lommy: Flip flop. Flip flop. (I have nothing. I just wished to say this.)
Eomer: I think we've made the right decision toDay, and hopefully the dead can shed some light on our current predicament and we can all be a happy little family again.
Morm: My condolences, sir, but I wish you well in the afterlife regardless of your role.
Shasta: My psychic wolf boy is rubbing me the wrong way. Are you a naughty boy? You can't be, can you? I'll have to look at you more closely, you sneaky creature.
Mith: Getting into the idea of orchestrating votes for more information, which does put a bit of positive light, but I'm still wary.
Kath: Perhaps the self-vote might be a good idea toMorrow indeed. We shall see. In any case, it's always nice to see a little more Kath. :)
I entreat the ranger to look upon me with favor this evening, as I rather fear I may be the next target and I have much to say toMorrow (as it will be the weekend, yay!). Until the Morning, my friends.
x'd with the mod (as I apparently lost track of time)
Kuruharan
06-10-2015, 08:22 PM
It was an eerie day, that's the only way to describe it. The red mist eventually settled on everything...which was unpleasant.
Things just felt weird that day, no doubt. It was almost as if the spirits of the dead were swirling around their heads trying desperately to influence events.
All the inmates felt like they were being watched.
Suddenly, Thinlómien stood up and shouted, "I feel strangely EMPOWERED and think we should kill mormegil!!!!" with a voice that echoed with the cries of the dead.
Again, not wanting to disagree with an obviously crazy (and potentially haunted) person, the inmates seized mormegil and thrust him under the guilltine.
CLUNK
The scratching grew fevered as the lights went out.
The Missing or Dead:
Kuruharan
Nogrod
the phantom
Rune Son of Bjarne
Aganzir
A Little Green
Macalaure
Rikae
Legate of Amon Lanc
Loslote
Firefoot
Lalaith
Nilpaurion Felagund
Nerwen
mormegil
The Living:
Formendacil
satansaloser2005
McCaber
Boromir88
Thinlómien
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Shastanis Althreduin
Mithalwen
Kath
Illusion:
Gwathagor (Ordo)
Kuruharan
06-11-2015, 08:04 PM
The light filtered down and the NIGHT ended as it always did.
Weirdly, the first noticable thing was that the incessant scratching had finally ceased. Joyful day!
Fresh bodies were still about, of course, but breakfast was still served so one must make the best of these things.
ToDAY's tally was Thinlómien, Formendacil, and Eomer of the Rohirrim.
Oh well.
The small handful of survivors dug in with gusto.
Suddenly, there was a crack and a BOOM!
Lo! Nilpaurion Felagund est resurrectum...but strangely...ghostly, as if his spirit would not be able to remain in this state for long.
The Missing or Dead:
Kuruharan
Nogrod
the phantom
Rune Son of Bjarne
Aganzir
A Little Green
Macalaure
Rikae
Legate of Amon Lanc
Loslote
Firefoot
Lalaith
Nerwen
mormegil
Thinlómien
Formendacil
Eomer of the Rohirrim
The Living:
satansaloser2005
McCaber
Boromir88
Shastanis Althreduin
Mithalwen
Kath
Nilpaurion Felagund
Illusion:
Gwathagor (Ordo)
satansaloser2005
06-11-2015, 08:06 PM
Welcome home, my beloved. I've missed you. <3
McCaber
06-11-2015, 08:12 PM
Ah, so I don't need to confess that I was never sally's lover. That's good.
I figured you were burning time until Nilp came back so I didn't raise any fuss. You seemed genuine at the time so I backed your play trusting that you knew what you were doing. It's good to see that trust wasn't misplaced.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-11-2015, 08:25 PM
Ah, so I don't need to confess that I was never sally's lover. That's good.
I figured you were burning time until Nilp came back so I didn't raise any fuss. You seemed genuine at the time so I backed your play trusting that you knew what you were doing. It's good to see that trust wasn't misplaced.
I wondered about that. Good show, Sally.
On the other hand, we had three nightkills last night, so there's - at the very least! - one wolf from each pack remaining, plus Boro... and there are only six of us left (not counting Nilp, because he'll be dead after today.)
Which also means there are at least two wolves in the group of McCaber, Mith, and Kath. Good odds, but we've got to eliminate a nightkill today.
Sally, if McCaber isn't your beloved, why are you so quick to trust him?
Shastanis Althreduin
06-11-2015, 08:31 PM
I half wonder if we shouldn't lynch Boro today. I'd imagine the kill of Form was him, so he (probably) was genuinely trying to hit a wolf (not for our sake, but because he needs to kill the wolves as much as we do), but he's the only sure shot we have at eliminating a nightkill today.
Of course, Nilp could blow this entire theory of mine out of the water, so I'll wait to hear from him before I speak any more about it.
satansaloser2005
06-11-2015, 08:35 PM
Sally, if McCaber isn't your beloved, why are you so quick to trust him?
I'm not, at least implicitly. I just knew what Eomer was thinking and it was beneficial at the time for others to think it as well, so I went with it.
Incidentally, thanks, McCaber, for playing along. You're a doll. :Merisu:
x'd with Shasta
McCaber
06-11-2015, 08:37 PM
On the other hand, we had three nightkills last night, so there's - at the very least! - one wolf from each pack remaining, plus Boro... and there are only six of us left (not counting Nilp, because he'll be dead after today.)
Based on timing, if Formy was a wolf that Boro struck down, their two kills might have both gone through. (Formy specifically, because both Lommy and Eomer were on our seer's list of innocents and because he looked really wolvish to me.) If morm was a wolf himself, that would leave one wolf remaining between Mith, Kath, and myself. Which is looking a good deal less dire for everyone involved.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-11-2015, 08:40 PM
Based on timing, if Formy was a wolf that Boro struck down, their two kills might have both gone through. (Formy specifically, because both Lommy and Eomer were on our seer's list of innocents and because he looked really wolvish to me.) If morm was a wolf himself, that would leave one wolf remaining between Mith, Kath, and myself. Which is looking a good deal less dire for everyone involved.
I suppose that's possible, but I have no idea how to figure out if that's the case. Initially I figured that if Form had been the last wolf on his team, there'd only have been two nightkills, but your theory is equally valid.
Is that something our esteemed mod can answer? Kuru, in the event that the last remaining wolf on a team is killed themselves at night, would their kill go through or not? (Of course feel free not to answer if that's something we shouldn't know.)
McCaber
06-11-2015, 08:41 PM
Incidentally, thanks, McCaber, for playing along. You're a doll. :Merisu:
No problem. I'm just glad you're still here.
Of course, if Nilp hadn't come back I would have assumed you to be a particularly brassy wolf and this conversation would be quite a bit different.
Kuruharan
06-11-2015, 08:43 PM
Is that something our esteemed mod can answer? Kuru, in the event that the last remaining wolf on a team is killed themselves at night, would their kill go through or not? (Of course feel free not to answer if that's something we shouldn't know.)
All NIGHT events are assumed to happen.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-11-2015, 08:52 PM
All NIGHT events are assumed to happen.
In which case McCaber's version of events is the correct one, so... here's hoping Form was both a wolf and the last of his pack.
satansaloser2005
06-11-2015, 09:11 PM
Also, the scratching has ceased. Perhaps the gift only works until Boro eliminates the last member of a wolf pack or something? Just throwing out random ideas.
McCaber
06-11-2015, 09:17 PM
Also, the scratching has ceased. Perhaps the gift only works until Boro eliminates the last member of a wolf pack or something? Just throwing out random ideas.
He's killed three wolves by himself. Maybe he only had three hunting attempts?
Nilpaurion Felagund
06-11-2015, 09:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/4fcDPdq.gif
I missed you, my love.
Anyway, I don't have long to live, but if we do this right, we don't have long to play, in any case. Here's what I've gathered from the Dead:
Innocent Dead
Greenie
Legate
Agan
Firefoot
Nerwen
Nogrod
Eomer
Lommy
Innocent Alive (for now)
Sally <3
Nilp
Shasta
Dead Wolves
Loslote
Macalaure
Lalaith
Formendacil
mormegil
Living Wolves
???
Unknown Dead
Rikae - was scried last NIGHT, but I, ah, missed the announcement. :o
In any case, since there were three NIGHT kills, and we're still playing despite Form's Death, there's still a Wolf among:
Unknown Alive (in order of perceived innocence)
Kath
Mithalwen
McCaber
morm confessed to have noticed that I was a Lover and was hoping to kill my precious next, so which means our plan left a lot of visible clues, clues that someone who couldn't pay full attention to the game wouldn't notice. That leads to Kath (sorry, dear.)
I trust McCaber's claim that he noticed that Sally was playing a waiting game, so I'm inclined to trust his innocence the most.
Since Borobear hasn't been confirmed by our Seer, and just for the sake of complete information, I would like to ask the Dead to give us Rikae's alignment.
If Rikae is innocent, give your vote to Shasta, Mithalwen or McCaber.
If Rikae, by some chance, is a wolf, give your vote to Sally, Nilp, or Kath.
Thoughts, village?
Nilpaurion Felagund
06-11-2015, 09:47 PM
For some reason, I missed Boro in my list (sorry mate), but if we miss a Wolf toDAY and there's still two NIGHT kills (like, if his alignment flips once one of the Packs have been eliminated), you know what to do, anyway. (Or at least I bloody well hope you do.)
That reminds me, the Dead thread (especially the Europeans) wish to send the Living this message:
http://i.imgur.com/W6guLy2.gif
You've been lax and have let Wolves/distracted Gifteds prepare the vote list plan thing, leading not only to a failure to transfer information on the DAY of my death, but also (and more importantly) to the bungling up of what would've been the most epic thing of all time (if I do say so myself.)
As for what it is... you'll have to wait to find out.
satansaloser2005
06-11-2015, 09:54 PM
As an aside, a message (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFdzJ0j8lYo) for the wolves. :smokin:
satansaloser2005
06-11-2015, 10:18 PM
I'd be up for trying the tie vote toDay. We can tie the vote between two of our unknowns (or, if we think we can manage it, three) and let the dead decide who to lynch. Everyone would have to be in on it though, and we should decide such a thing somewhat early in the Day. I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on the subject.
In any case....
Clearly off the table
My beloved
Myself
My psychic wolf boy
My prince
Contendors for toDay (in marginal order of preference)
Mith
Kath
McCaber
McCaber
06-11-2015, 11:36 PM
I think a self-vote scheme could work well. There's a lot of heavy hitters in the dead thread, and hopefully they'll have enough extra information put together to give us a wolf.
Nilpaurion Felagund
06-11-2015, 11:59 PM
I'm on-topic, I swear! *pleads to the sky*
Probably the previous DAYs' votings might be more useful now.
(Known innocents in italics, known baddies in underline. Other than that, no time to make it look fancy. Again, apologies to the fans of my formatting skills--whoever you are (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?p=610002#post610002).)
DAY 1
Nilp -> Nilp
Rune -> Form
morm -> Mac
Lalaith -> Legate
Kath -> Form 2
Aganzir -> Lommy
Lommy -> Aganzir
Legate -> Greenie
Nogrod -> Agan 2
Form -> Form 3
Mith -> Agan 3
McCaber -> Agan 4
Firefoot -> Gwath
Boro -> Nog
Rikae -> Lommy 2
Mac -> Agan 5
TP -> Nog 2
Lottie -> Nog 3
Eomer -> Nog 4
Shasta -> Nog 5
Sally -> Nog 6
Formendawolf put himself temporarily in the lead, with four unknown yet to vote. Both living unknown (Mith and McCaber) put Agan in the lead before the Nogawagon steamed ahead.
Also, if Kath is a Wolf, I think Form is not one of her Packmates.
DAY 2
Lottie -> morm
Nerwen -> Mac
Greenie -> Aganzir
Lalaith -> Agan 2
Lommy -> Agan 3
Legate -> Greenie
McCaber -> Agan 4
morm -> Mac
Agan -> Greenie 2
Mac -> Agan 5
Firefoot -> Mac 3
Nilp -> Agan 6
Mith -> Rikae
Rikae -> Greenie 3
Eomer -> Agan 7
Boro -> Agan 8
Shasta -> Lottie
McCaber joined the bandwAgan (*ducks tomatoes*) while Mum cast a jesting (?) vote for unknown Rikae.
Btw, Mac and Lottie confessed to being Packmates, and morm is looking like someone from the opposing Pack. Evidence from DAY 4 (see below) also seems to point to Tweedlemorm and TweedleForm (TM Aganzir) not being Packmates, which means Mac/Lottie/Form are the members of the Grip Pack, leaving morm/Lalaith/unknown as the opposing Fang Pack.
DAY 3
Everyone -> Lottie
Lottie -> Firefoot
Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż
DAY 4
Kath -> Form
Lommy -> McCaber
Eomer -> Nilp 1
Shasta -> Nilp 2
Nilp -> Nilp 3 (If these were chess moves, double exclamation marks would be here.)
Form -> morm
Boro -> Form 2
morm -> Nilp 4
Sally -> Nilp 5 (I will cherish you forever. <3)
Nerwen -> Nilp 6
This is where the Tweedlemorm/Form duelling dynamic came to fore. Also, this is twice that Kath voted for Formendawolf. Also also, I didn't get to ask Lommy where she got 'kawaii' from (Legate said it wasn't him.)
DAY 5
Kath -> morm
Lommy -> morm 2
Eomer -> morm 3
morm -> Kath
Shasta -> morm 4
Sally -> morm 5
McCaber -> Form
Boro -> morm 6
Form -> Form 2
Kath voted for mormwolf this time, and my mother cast no vote (did she even post?) Anyway, how clear was the writing on the wall for morm? I am dense and wondering if a Packmate-on-Packmate vote could've been planned the NIGHT before.
CONCLUSION
My mum is starting to look somewhat suspicious (sorry! :( ) and Kath has either gained Shasta-like psychic powers (voting for Wolves all the time) or has another source of special knowledge (wink, wink). McCaber looks squeaky clean and Boro is cute and fuzzy.
Nilpaurion Felagund
06-12-2015, 12:08 AM
Mummie has indeed posted yesterDAY (even quoted some of her statements on the Dead thread as proof of kinship.) I am a very bad boy and should be punished. :(
But she didn't voted yesterDAY nor the DAY before. :( :(
Nilpaurion Felagund
06-12-2015, 12:23 AM
I just realised that, in my second gif, I'm the one holding the fan for the hitter. Which clearly means I am best girl. :Merisu:
Will be off to do various holiday activities (mainly swimming to avoid the 40-degree weather), so I might be away for a while. </EndTriplePost>
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 12:26 AM
Nice work, Nilp.
Now then, we know that one of Mith, Kath, and McCaber is a wolf. With McCaber having aided and abetted Sally yesterday and Mith seeming almost disinterested, I personally agree with Nilp that Kath is probably our best option today (if not Boro. :p) That's likely where I'll be voting.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 12:28 AM
Also, Nilp, you left Phanty McPhanterson off your big ol' list. I'm assuming he was innocent, but I can hear the screams from the dead thread that he wasn't given his due attention. :p
(Sorry, phantom, I had to do it once this game!)
Nilpaurion Felagund
06-12-2015, 12:38 AM
...I just forgot. (Which is probably worse.)
Yeah, Philip McPhantompants is innocent. One of the first dreams (along with you, Shasta--feel honoured and flattered.)
McCaber
06-12-2015, 12:43 AM
And (for completeness' sake) Boro got left off of both Innocent Alive and Unknown Alive.
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 12:52 AM
Well I am prepared to self vote. I certainly need to vote earlier since I am clearly incapable of staying awake. However I am as certain as I can be that McCaber is the last wolf. Kath's instant readiness to agree to it speaks volumes to me. An innocent suspect in our situation would jump at it.
If Sally wants to kill me because I am not impressed over attention seeking behaviour well then up to her.
Tell you what,I could make this easy. If I don't vote today, I get mod killed. You don't waste a lynch on an innocent but you all get rid of me as a distraction. But deal is vote Mc Caber.
Still leaves you with the Boromir issue but heigh ho
Deal or no Deal?
Nilpaurion Felagund
06-12-2015, 01:01 AM
I also left Rune out of the old one (again, sorry!) so here it is again, along with how the information (if any) has been obtained.
Innocent Dead
Greenie (scried)
Legate (scried)
Nogrod (scried; ERRATUM: dreamt)
Agan (Hunter)
Nerwen (Seer)
phantom (dreamt)
Eomer (dreamt)
Lommy (dreamt)
Firefoot (dreamt)
Innocent Alive (for now)
Sally (<3)
Nilp
Shasta (dreamt)
Boro (bear-like terminator person?)
Dead Wolves
Loslote (dreamt)
Macalaure (dreamt)
Lalaith (scried)
Formendacil (dreamt)
mormegil (dreamt)
Living Wolves
???
Unknown Dead
Rikae (scried; I am incompetent)
Rune
Unknown Alive
Kath
Mith
McCaber
Unknown Dwarf
Kuruharan (cake)
EDITED: See ERRATUM.
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 01:21 AM
Actually I am not so keen on self voting now - I did so on the basis that the dead knew more than the living. Now we know as much as the dead apart from that they are going to have the now obvious fact of Rikae's innocence confirmed.
I have all the common information plus the certainty of my own role.
I would be astonished if the remaining wolf were Kath but I know it ain't me
Which leave McCaber.
And Boromir of course but I am a noted arctophile so he can wait as far as I am concerned til we know if action is necessary.
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 01:36 AM
I didn't not vote intentionally Nilp. How you any idea how hard it is to stay awake until 3 am? At least when you aren't at a fabulous party ... and I don't have an alarm since my tablet died.. nothing happens for hours and then If you vote and give up you find out it has all gone bananas in the last 10 minutes. Look at the situation. Last night there were four candidates since Mc Caber had been given the free pass. Two now known stateside wolves me and Kath. No telling if the wolf 0 since it wasn't obvious yesterday there were 2, would go for me to save themselves.
Look at what I have posted today. Think and make your own mind up.
Just if there is going to be an arrangement I really would like a decent night's sleep. I do have other things going on in my life and being a zombie doesn't help. So sooner rather than later.
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 01:54 AM
I think a self-vote scheme could work well. There's a lot of heavy hitters in the dead thread, and hopefully they'll have enough extra information put together to give us a wolf.
The only extra information now that could be helpful is in the paws of the pack who have a surviving compadre. That won't be used in to the greater good.
The dead overall may have better judgement but about a third of them are now wolves that could affect the balance of power.
Nilpaurion Felagund
06-12-2015, 01:54 AM
So Mum's willing to be modfired in exchanged for lynching McCaber...
Moddwarf Kuru, will she be modfired toDAY (despite posting) if she doesn't vote?
McCaber, are you willing to go along with this? It seems a bum deal to have you help Sally stay alive only to throw you under the bus, but... on the bright side, the Dead thread is the real party. So you get to join them sooner.
So if this plan goes through, only Kath will be left of the unknown by the next DAY, which means if you're still playing then, you all know what to do.
If Mum votes last minute to save herself (highly unlikely, but I must consider all eventualities), y'all can just go after her the next DAY.
I'll be off in a few minutes, so this really is it from me for now.
Nilpaurion Felagund
06-12-2015, 02:02 AM
Mith's thinking the same way I am (re the Dead's information and balance of power) and has been helpful to the village (suggesting a focus on the Living instead of the Dead for the information transfer plan), so I am inclined to think her innocent.
McCaber may have helped saved Sally, leading to my return, so I am also inclined to think him innocent.
Mum, why are you so keen to think Kath is innocent? I have
a) evidence from voting (She has been too keen/has voted Form twice.); and
b) evidence from Sally's survival/my return (A lot of people noticed that I am a Lover, and yet the Wolves didn't go after Sally. Only someone who couldn't pay much attention to the thread would miss the clues.)
Yes I know she's expressed interest in self-voting, but Form (known Wolf) has self-voted, so that alone doesn't say much.
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 02:31 AM
I said. It is because her reaction to my plan was that of an innocent eager to clear herself than a wolf interested in self preservation. Given that her absence made her a reasonable choice for a seer dream. Balance of probabilities ordo.. also that mad flurry of post seemed a bit conspicuous.
But I can't prove it. I can't prove I am innocent. But that is what seems overwhelmingly likely.
Lovely to have you back for a bit son but the antics were quite obvious and so McCaber's pseudo-helpful feint just seems opportunistic.
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 02:32 AM
But Form self voted when morm was already well in the lead and was not in the "hands of the dead" situation proposed.
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 05:11 AM
https://youtu.be/YawagQ6lLrA
Boromir88
06-12-2015, 06:41 AM
Agree with Mith on the self voting. With 5 dead wolves (3 by my hand thank you very much), the innocent dead could have trouble overcoming a united dead wolves and wind up lynching a known innocent (Shasta or sally).
You can lynch me today and insure you get rid of a ruthless killer, to leave yourself with 3 unknowns (1 wolf) and 2 known innocents. In which case you can still get the job done and win it. However a lone wolf can survive that scenario.
Or you can put your trust in me again tonight. That is to say...we lynch one of the unknowns, I kill one tonight. Leaving 1 unknown. If that unknown is still the last wolf, there's still the chance to lynch the next day (or lynch me if you think the wolf has been killed and the game is still not over). Because with the 3 deaths yesterday it's clear there's still 1 wolf amongst Mith, Kath, and McCaber
Boromir88
06-12-2015, 07:03 AM
The only reason I'm not dead yet, is because the lone wolf probably accurately judges they can get me lynched if they paint me as the only big bad evil left and to lynch me (which well, might expose the last wolf :p).
But if my motivations are questionable, at least my actions and accomplishments, can buy me some gratitude and hopefully a stay of execution...right? I stuck to my word of following the dead's signal about FormWolf. I could have taken that information and said "you know what, forget it, I've killed enough wolves for these people already. They're on their own now."
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 07:06 AM
Thinking about the "outs". And what I should do.
We are only going to get opinion from the dead from now on. As a source of factual information that well is dry. Even if the Ranger was killed last night his or her return tomorrow can only tell us about the dead. Only the dead wolves know more and thy aren't likely to tell.
It all hangs on Boro really. and now I see he has posted .
Boromir88
06-12-2015, 07:11 AM
Or I have another proposal.
Ok so
Known living Innocents
Shasta
sally
Known questionable agenda
Boro
Unknown - 2 ordos 1 Wolf
Mith
Kath
McCaber
Lynch 1 unknown today. I kill one. Wolf targets Shasta or sally, and successfully kills one. Leaving Shasta/Sally, me, and 1 unknown the next day. We all self-vote and then let the dead decide who they want to empower. Now what could be a greater end to this anniversary reunion than that? Am I right?
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 07:17 AM
I don't think the village has the luxury of lynching Boro on spec. The wolf is only going to pick off known ordos rather than fellow suspects and you can't rely on the ranger picking the right one even if still alive. And you can't deny Boro has been most successful. Couldn't really have been more helpful.. if you want to kill him before you know it is necessary, when there is still a wolf there well you probably deserve to be eaten aux petits oignons...
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 07:26 AM
Save that it is going to be obvious if it gets to that point that the surviving unknown is a wolf.
Anyway there doesn't seem any really good reason not to follow my heart and vote Mc Caber. Don't have to give Kuru a decision about a vote if Boro can kill me anyway.
Why not tie it up now and score one for the Europeans.
Boro... if I vote Mc Caber, Kath pretty much has to for self preservation. If you did too it fits with your plan. If I am right and you are honest game over.. if not then well you are welcome to kill me tonight.
Worst case it would be a tie if all the others voted for me or Kath and the dead could decide or not.
Wh
Boromir88
06-12-2015, 07:35 AM
Why not tie it up now and score one for the Europeans.
Boro... if I vote Mc Caber, Kath pretty much has to for self preservation. If you did too it fits with your plan. If I am right and you are honest game over.. if not then well you are welcome to kill me tonight.
Ok, so you're saying if we both vote for McCaber, that would force Kath too for self-preservation? It would also force McCaber to vote for self preservation. Makes sense.
I'll be leaving for the rest of the day in approximately 3 hours. That seems like it would be the best option for me. I'll ponder it some more, and as I said, my vote has to come within the next 3 hours. So, that will give the living plenty of time to decide what they want to do with me. They've heard my offer. :)
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 07:46 AM
I really don't have anything to lose since between lynching, modfire and your fangs most options are fraught with peril. And I think I am right
Gives the Dead time to choose.
++McCaber
Kuruharan
06-12-2015, 09:09 AM
Moddwarf Kuru, will she be modfired toDAY (despite posting) if she doesn't vote?
Yes, but she's voted now so it isn't an issue.
Boromir88
06-12-2015, 09:14 AM
Consider the offer I've made today. If you want to see this thing home by finding the final wolf on your own so be it. I personally think what a fantastic return it will be go with this:
Lynch 1 unknown today. I kill one. Wolf targets Shasta or sally, and successfully kills one. Leaving Shasta/Sally, me, and 1 unknown the next day. We all self-vote and then let the dead decide who they want to empower. Now what could be a greater end to this anniversary reunion than that? Am I right?
And actually if it's the wolf we lynch today than there will only be my kill for one of the other unknowns, and it's all over. If not than I think what a great end it will be to tie the votes on the final day and let the dead decide.
++McCaber
I'm out. It's all on you (Shasta, sally, Nilp) to decide.
Edit: changing vote to highlight
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 10:07 AM
Thanks Boromir.
McCaber
06-12-2015, 12:36 PM
Mith, these last few posts really sound like a wolf scrabbling for any extra time they can get. I've been suspicious of you for quite some time, and you don't make yourself look any better toDay.
++Mithalwen
... I thought we were self-voting?!
I am going to the cinema so will be back in a few hours to catch up and vote.
McCaber
06-12-2015, 02:26 PM
... I thought we were self-voting?!
We were, but as Mith voted for me I had to respond in kind.
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 03:02 PM
Kath, if you read back, there is no point because we now know as much as the dead save that the result of scrying Rikae was unknown to Nilp before he returned to us. And having had a long think I decided that letting myself be modkilled wouldn't help if we don't get the wolf tonight.
Boromir has kindly volunteered to finish me off if necessary so McCaber's claim that I am desperate for more time is ludicrous... one might almost say the desperate scrabbling of a wolf for extra time.
And how convenient you now find me suspicious, Mc Caber ...what a pity you haven't left a particularly convincing audit trail for that. You have mentioned me prior to your vote about four times in lists without any comment..as someone left to vote, as an unknown. Only in post 442 days ago did you express suspicion.
Face it the writing is on the wall. One wolf three unknowns.
I know I have done my best. Kath may have played the absentee lycanthrope again, but I don't think so this time.
Either way it is out of my hands now.
satansaloser2005
06-12-2015, 05:13 PM
I pretty seriously disagree with this plan.
satansaloser2005
06-12-2015, 05:14 PM
Clearly I'm home. Sorry for the tardiness. I had to work later than expected.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 05:25 PM
I as well, and... hm. I'm not really sure what to think at the moment, though I admit Mith is convincing.
That and something about the post where McCaber votes Mith prickled the hairs on the back of my neck.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 05:33 PM
Well, let's see. Kath being fine with self-voting, as Mith pointed out, doesn't really set well as a last-wolf-standing kind of ploy.
I think someone (Lommy, maybe) mentioned yesterday about voting for those unknowns that didn't vote for themselves today, but honestly I can't really blame anyone for not doing it (I wouldn't really want to either.)
Also, voting for self-preservation is fairly reasonable, considering. Given that it's Mith versus McCaber today, I think that's another point in Kath's favor, even given what Nilp said about her earlier.
Hmm...
satansaloser2005
06-12-2015, 05:39 PM
I as well, and... hm. I'm not really sure what to think at the moment, though I admit Mith is convincing.
That and something about the post where McCaber votes Mith prickled the hairs on the back of my neck.
See, my main argument is that Cab wouldn't have let me live if he suspected Nilp was my lover. Why not take a shot at me?
And consider Mith's proposal of letting herself be modfired as long as McCaber dies. She didn't go through with it. I mean, clearly it was an absurd idea, as having an innocent modfired doesn't do any service for the village, but she didn't even follow through. In fact, hers was the first vote. I don't think she ever had the intention of letting her suggestion happen. Even if we'd have lynched McCaber for her, she would have voted to protect herself. It's just smoother to "reconsider" and do it earlier than to do it near the deadline.
I guess what I'm saying here is I have way more reasons to trust McCaber than I do Mith. She criticizes the actions of others, yet expects no one to find hers suspicious, which is, well, suspicious. :rolleyes:
x'd with Shasta
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 05:43 PM
Shasta, consider if McCaber were an injured innocent playing for the team, would he not have considered voting Kath rather than simple retaliation? And if
I were a wolf why on earth wouldn't I have gone after absent Kath instead of voicing suspicions of morm and form one at least of whom would have been a packmate.?
Anyway on current form I am about to drop off.. so.
And Nilp..Mummie loves you no matter what
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 05:45 PM
See, my main argument is that Cab wouldn't have let me live if he suspected Nilp was my lover. Why not take a shot at me?
And consider Mith's proposal of letting herself be modfired as long as McCaber dies. She didn't go through with it. I mean, clearly it was an absurd idea, as having an innocent modfired doesn't do any service for the village, but she didn't even follow through. In fact, hers was the first vote. I don't think she ever had the intention of letting her suggestion happen. Even if we'd have lynched McCaber for her, she would have voted to protect herself. It's just smoother to "reconsider" and do it earlier than to do it near the deadline.
I guess what I'm saying here is I have way more reasons to trust McCaber than I do Mith. She criticizes the actions of others, yet expects no one to find hers suspicious, which is, well, suspicious. :rolleyes:
x'd with Shasta
It sounds to me as though you'd have found Mith suspicious whether or not she'd gone through with being modfired, or at least that's the way you've come across here.
In any case, you did ask to be protected the night before Nilp came back. Maybe that's why a Cabwolf elected to aim his fangs elsewhere?
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 05:47 PM
Actually I explicitly said I expected to be found suspicious and why to morm yesterday
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 05:56 PM
And the reason I offered to be modfired was because I was sufficiently confident about McCaber to think it wouldn't matter. But given that McCaber was regarded as too helpful to be a wolf I didn't think youd take me up on it and I tried to work out the outs and realised that I had better give that idea up. The agreement with Boro was borne of necessity as is probably clear from the conversation.
satansaloser2005
06-12-2015, 06:10 PM
In any case, you did ask to be protected the night before Nilp came back. Maybe that's why a Cabwolf elected to aim his fangs elsewhere?
It's entirely possible. I've considered it off and on, but it doesn't seem very WolfCaber to me. Especially as a last wolf, he would have to try to make the biggest impact possible.
McCaber's self-preservation seems less last wolf standing than Mith's somewhat sudden hesitation to sacrifice herself. She could have taken that risk yesterDay, but if I'm right, doing so toDay would cost her the game, so a convenient change of mind would suit a lone wolf.
If Mith were innocent and believed McCaber to be the last wolf, why would she not do as she said? As I said, it would be unnecessary to make such a sacrifice, but if she truly believed it would end the game, why would she have the need to vote after all? She could have made more of an effort to convince us of his guilt, but instead she went for the safer option. Sure, she offered an explanation, but every wolf has an explanation for her actions.
Honestly though, as much as I prefer Mith as a candidate, I would be totally okay with tying them and letting the dead decide, assuming we think we can get away with that.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 06:18 PM
It's entirely possible. I've considered it off and on, but it doesn't seem very WolfCaber to me. Especially as a last wolf, he would have to try to make the biggest impact possible.
McCaber's self-preservation seems less last wolf standing than Mith's somewhat sudden hesitation to sacrifice herself. She could have taken that risk yesterDay, but if I'm right, doing so toDay would cost her the game, so a convenient change of mind would suit a lone wolf.
If Mith were innocent and believed McCaber to be the last wolf, why would she not do as she said? As I said, it would be unnecessary to make such a sacrifice, but if she truly believed it would end the game, why would she have the need to vote after all? She could have made more of an effort to convince us of his guilt, but instead she went for the safer option. Sure, she offered an explanation, but every wolf has an explanation for her actions.
Honestly though, as much as I prefer Mith as a candidate, I would be totally okay with tying them and letting the dead decide, assuming we think we can get away with that.
With half the votes already in, that should be doable, and I'd be up for it as well. So far we have -
Boro - McCaber (Cab1)
Mith - McCaber (Cab2)
McCaber - Mith (Cab2, Mith1)
with Sally, Shasta, Kath, and Nilp left to vote. Two of us vote Mith, one votes McCaber, one abstains (provided Kath will be around to vote.) I'm not sure if Nilp will be back to vote or not, so he'd likely be the abstention in this scenario. Thoughts?
satansaloser2005
06-12-2015, 06:21 PM
I'm not sure if Nilp will be back to vote or not, so he'd likely be the abstention in this scenario. Thoughts?
I don't believe my beloved will be around much. :(
Mithalwen
06-12-2015, 06:26 PM
Because of the boromir factor of course. I believe totally that McCaber is the last wolf. I am certain that I am not. I believe that getting McCaber as last wolf ends the game but it isn't impossible that Boro can win as a lone agent. In that scenario an extra bod might be useful.
Remember that if you tie the votes you are abdicating the decision to the dead who have four known stateside wolves... while all those known innocent Europeans may well have gone to bed. Interesting choice.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 06:33 PM
Honestly, I'm leaning more towards McCaber myself, but Sally does have good points about it possibly being Mith.
I wonder where Kath is?
satansaloser2005
06-12-2015, 07:11 PM
*crickets*
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 07:21 PM
*crickets*
Indeed. Well, I'll likely vote for McCaber myself at this rate.
satansaloser2005
06-12-2015, 07:29 PM
++Mith
For posterity if nothing else. I firmly believe she's the correct choice, and if I'm wrong, then hey, McCaber's played a good game.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 07:32 PM
++McCaber
When the two known innocents can't agree... :rolleyes:
Shastanis Althreduin
06-12-2015, 07:54 PM
Well, in any case I feel better about not voting Kath now.
McCaber
06-12-2015, 07:55 PM
And I guess my fate comes down to who got the bonus vote toDay.
Kuruharan
06-12-2015, 08:00 PM
Narration will follow.
Kuruharan
06-12-2015, 08:19 PM
After the wonder of Nilpaurion's return, the rest of the DAY seemed a touch anti-climactic.
Nilpaurion and Sally made the most of their time together, and out of respect (and perhaps a bit of awe) the other inmates mostly sat quietly.
Suddenly Mithalwen lept to her feet and cried, "I feel strangely EMPOWERED and think we should kill McCaber!!!"
"Don't worry, it's pretty weird from the other side too," said Nilp into the following silence...and then he was gone.
Deciding it best, again, to not argue with the crazy person, the surviving inmates seized McCaber and put him under the blade.
CLUNK
Then the lights went out.
The Missing or Dead:
Kuruharan
Nogrod
the phantom
Rune Son of Bjarne
Aganzir
A Little Green
Macalaure
Rikae
Legate of Amon Lanc
Loslote
Firefoot
Lalaith
Nerwen
mormegil
Thinlómien
Formendacil
Nilpaurion Felagund
McCaber
The Living:
satansaloser2005
Boromir88
Shastanis Althreduin
Mithalwen
Kath
Illusion:
Gwathagor (Ordo)
OCC - As I'm going to a play tomorrow I am going to have to move the deadline up by...probably kind of a lot, but unhelpfully I'm not sure when yet. I will keep everyone posted.
Kuruharan
06-13-2015, 11:30 AM
Deadline today will be 7:00 PM Eastern.
Kuruharan
06-13-2015, 05:01 PM
Mithalwen's corpse greeted the dawn.
However, breakfast was still thoughtfully provided.
Best get to work! Time is running out.
The Missing or Dead:
Kuruharan
Nogrod
the phantom
Rune Son of Bjarne
Aganzir
A Little Green
Macalaure
Rikae
Legate of Amon Lanc
Loslote
Firefoot
Lalaith
Nerwen
mormegil
Thinlómien
Formendacil
Nilpaurion Felagund
McCaber
Mithalwen
The Living:
satansaloser2005
Boromir88
Shastanis Althreduin
Kath
Illusion:
Gwathagor (Ordo)
satansaloser2005
06-13-2015, 05:03 PM
Well that's....interesting.
Boromir88
06-13-2015, 05:40 PM
All I know is I think this is a conspiracy and set up to get me lynched by the last wolf
Shastanis Althreduin
06-13-2015, 07:12 PM
All I know is I think this is a conspiracy and set up to get me lynched by the last wolf
The last wolf was McCaber. There was only one kill last night. Had it been Mith then the second kill would have gone through vis-a-vis Form.
Boromir88
06-13-2015, 07:29 PM
The last wolf was McCaber. There was only one kill last night. Had it been Mith then the second kill would have gone through vis-a-vis Form.
Wait...I killed someone last night? No one gave me the memo. I'm almost sure Kath saw the arrangement between Mith and me yesterday, and decided to set it up to make it look like I killed her.
*sigh* Alas I have no proof...so tell me now, and tell me true, because I'm not going to beat my head off the wall if there's no point in changing my fate. No one's going to believe a word I say today?
And here I am thinking I'm doing a bang up job helping villagers by slaughtering the wolves for them...but now there's no hope.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-13-2015, 07:51 PM
I'm afraid I won't be, Boro. Simple facts - you've admitted to being able to kill people at night and there are only four people left alive. We literally have to kill you now.
++Boro
Don't get me wrong though; you certainly did do a bang-up job killing wolves. :)
satansaloser2005
06-13-2015, 08:30 PM
Now now, my boys, let's thing about this from all angles.
If McCaber was the last wolf: Clearly we need to kill my prince because he's the only possible threat left.
If Mith was the last wolf: Boro killed her and is still the only possible threat left, so see above.
If Kath is the last wolf: Well, obviously we need to lynch Kath. Duh.
If Boro is the last wolf: We lynch my prince and I bake and mail him some cookies.
I'm sorry, my darling, but in three of the four scenarios, you are the best choice. That said, I will listen to what you have to say and consider it before I place a vote.
Boromir88
06-13-2015, 09:05 PM
All I wanted to do was sleep peacefully...But Thieves and Murderers plundered my home to play at some sport. I did what any one of you would have if you were as lonely as me. I killed not because I wanted to, but because I had to.
Well get on with it. Lynch the beast. When all is said and done...just think better of me and remember that my claws were sharper and my aim was better than even Smaug the Magnificent.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-14-2015, 09:45 AM
That dead thread is going to be such a long read when the game's finally over, haha.
satansaloser2005
06-14-2015, 09:59 AM
That dead thread is going to be such a long read when the game's finally over, haha.
Apparently there have been a lot of ban threats and Nicolas Cage gifs. I don't know if I can take it. :p
satansaloser2005
06-14-2015, 10:00 AM
The good news is that even if we're somehow wrong about Boro, we have a 50/50 shot of surviving the Night. I'd still like to wait for Kath to return though....assuming she does return. :rolleyes:
Shastanis Althreduin
06-14-2015, 10:24 AM
The good news is that even if we're somehow wrong about Boro, we have a 50/50 shot of surviving the Night. I'd still like to wait for Kath to return though....assuming she does return. :rolleyes:
Dang. How long has it been that obvious? :rolleyes:
satansaloser2005
06-14-2015, 10:32 AM
Dang. How long has it been that obvious? :rolleyes:
Nilp and I discussed it yesterDay. :Merisu:
Although to be fair, I thought it was probably McCaber on the Day I faked our little affair.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-14-2015, 11:13 AM
Nilp and I discussed it yesterDay. :Merisu:
Although to be fair, I thought it was probably McCaber on the Day I faked our little affair.
Duly noted. Actually, there'd be someone else alive, save for a bit of miscommunication on the first day Kuru moved the deadline up. No one's fault, really, just a metric ton of bad luck.
satansaloser2005
06-14-2015, 11:14 AM
Duly noted. Actually, there'd be someone else alive, save for a bit of miscommunication on the first day Kuru moved the deadline up.
Oh? Inquiring minds, etc.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-14-2015, 11:20 AM
Oh? Inquiring minds, etc.
I protected Rikae that night, but it wasn't in time.
satansaloser2005
06-14-2015, 11:23 AM
I protected Rikae that night, but it wasn't in time.
Huh. Interesting.
Where the heck is Kath? :confused:
Boromir88
06-14-2015, 11:43 AM
++Kath
This is the 2nd Mandos game and neither time have I been able to join the Dead. It's killing me and I know there's no way I'm going to read it now. :(
I figure just kill all the wolves at night and tell them you're doing it. They will surely kill you soon, right? Then I could perhaps win using my best ability, but alas it's too late for that.
Hopefully the songs of my benevolence and malice are remembered and my deadly aim shall never be forgotten.
Here. Apologies (again).
So ... there are no wolves left? It's just villagers against whatever the heck Boro is?
sally is Lover, Shasta is Ranger, I am ordo and therefore ... Boro. Else why is the game still going. Just want to check I have translated this correctly.
Shastanis Althreduin
06-14-2015, 11:57 AM
Here. Apologies (again).
So ... there are no wolves left? It's just villagers against whatever the heck Boro is?
sally is Lover, Shasta is Ranger, I am ordo and therefore ... Boro. Else why is the game still going. Just want to check I have translated this correctly.
No, that's pretty much it, unless you're secretly a wolf in disguise.
++Boro
Well alrighty then.
satansaloser2005
06-14-2015, 01:24 PM
Do I have to? He's been such a good boy. :(
Boromir88
06-14-2015, 02:34 PM
You can vote for Kath and leave the choice with the Dead :-)
satansaloser2005
06-14-2015, 03:43 PM
You can vote for Kath and leave the choice with the Dead :-)
Um, I really don't think I can, love. :rolleyes:
So be it.
++Boro
Kuruharan
06-14-2015, 08:00 PM
THE END
As the final title rolled across the screen the audience began talking among themselves.
"I thought that movie was in very poor taste," said Rikae.
"I thought that the dramatic tension and narrative structure of the entire work was undermined and ruined by ultimate failure of the lone anti-hero struggling valiantly against massive odds," said Formendacil.
"Funny, I agree strictly verbatim," said Boromir88. "I'm going to go buy another dragon ride."
"I liked the parts where I was telling people what to do," said the phantom.
"I disliked those parts intensely," said Mithalwen.
"I'm going to go find some Cortizone cream," said Thinlomien.
"I liked how I was right about practically everything," said Firefoot.
"I liked how I was freakin' awesome," said Nerwen.
Nilpaurion Felagund and satansaloser2005 slipped out the back for other activities.
"I liked the part where I banned everyone involved in this," said mormegil.
"Quiet please, everyone!" said Kuruharan. "We are missing the credits."
The Cast, in Order of Appearance
Outro Music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1QUZzeZoPQ)
Kuruharan __________ as a catspaw, a Dwarf
McCaber __________ as a Fang Pack Wolf, a Lone Warrior and FIRST!
Nilpaurion Felagund __________ as Romeo Montague
Firefoot __________ as a Home Run Hittin' Ordo
Nerwen __________ as Yes She was a Dreamer, and She was the Only One
Rikae __________ as Prey
the phantom __________ as Phantom, THE Phantom, the Mastermind
Loslote __________ as a Grip Pack Wolf who did not go Quietly into the Night
satansaloser2005 __________ as Juliet Capulet
A Little Green __________ as the Sensible Ordo, a Victim
Mithlawen __________ as the Classy Ordo
Legate of Amon Lanc __________ as A Scholar among Ordos
Rune Son of Bjarne __________ as A Dane
Boromir88 __________ as Chrysophylax Dives, a Dragon
Eomer of the Rohirrim __________ as a Wargish Ordo
Nogrod __________ as an Ordo, yes really
Macalaure __________ as a Grip Pack Wolf who DID go quietly in the NIGHT
mormegil __________ as a Fang Pack Wolf, the One Who Bans People
Aganzir __________ as paradoxically, both the Hunter and the Target
Thinlomien __________ as an Itching Ordo
Kath __________ as the Elusive Ordo
Formendacil __________ as The Hero of the Grip Pack
Shastanis Althreduin __________ as an Agent with a Shield
Lalaith __________ as a Fang Pack Wolf, the Polite One
Similarity to persons both Living and Dead is entirely intentional.
PARTY VICTORIOUS
(c) An Ancient and Imperial Lineage Production
For convenience and clarity, let's please consider this thread concluded and have our post-game discussion happen in the Dead Thread.
It is a lot more fun there anyway. :p
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