Middle Earth Riddles: The Terror Continues

[Kalimac]

This is a continuation of the ME riddles thread; I'm not sure if it's necessary or not, but I tried several times to post replies on the last thread and couldn't see them, so was thinking possibly the thread has gotten overlong or something (or else my computer is messed up...) anyway if it turns out the first thread is working, we can continue posting on there smilies/smile.gif. For now though, I'll post my answers to the last thread here since the first one isn't accepting them...grrr...

Stephanos, the answer is indeed money - Samwise, I like your answer too, though smilies/smile.gif. They both fit, certainly.

Raefindel - I'm really sorry to hear about that, it must have been pretty miserable for both you. How old is your daughter? Hope she's mending fast.

Everyone - your riddles are fantastic but my poor brain is far too cleaned out right now to deal with them (working late, have a split shift tomorrow, grrr). Anyway I'll try to make guesses at them tomorrow when I have some sort of brain-wave activity going smilies/smile.gif. Time for this girl to go to bed.

And for a riddle to christen the (maybe) new thread; here's an old one.

The man who bought it didn't want it.
The man who used it didn't know he was using it.

What is it?

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[Alchrivëwen]

Thats easy, a coffin

[Gorothlammothiel]

I guessed Coffin too but i've heard that one told differently.......same conclusion though so I guess it doesn't matter smilies/smile.gif

[Raefindel]

OOh good guesses guys! I'm not very good at riddles.

I'm glad you started a new thread Kalimac, I thought it was just me. I was answering Samwise' question about my daughter and thought it was being deleted because it had nothing to do with the thread.

Here's my riddle

I soar without wings
I see without eyes
I've traveled the universe to and fro
I've conquered the world and yet
I've never been anywhere but home.

And thank you all for asking, my daughter is fine now. She had pneumonia, and was hospitalized for 3 days. It ruined our vacation, but I can only say Thank God my husband was there to help me deal with it! It's too hard to do when he's at work.

Sorry for getting personal on this thread. I should have never brought it up to start with, but now that I have, I knew I had better answer your questions all at once and get it over with. I apologize.

[Kalimac]

Yes, it's a coffin. Your turn.

Still can't think of any answers, except possibly this one: Aragorn Husband of Arwen, is the answer to yours a dream? Since you're not conscious when you dream, and you're "in" the place, but not really.

Raefindel, I think yours has come up before - is it imagination? And I'm glad your daughter is doing better, that must have been really frightening for you. Don't worry about mentioning it; I had nothing wrong with it and doubt that anyone else did. (Besides, if you get to ask about my potential children surely we can ask about your current ones smilies/evil.gif ).

Just got back from work so I'm off to take a nap. Hope to catch you guys when I come posting this evening smilies/smile.gif.

[Raefindel]

Yes, Kalimac, it is Imagination. Sorry I should have paid more attention. Didn't realize it had been posted before. There are too many pages to back and check now.

[Nuranar]

Thanks so much for starting a new thread, Kalimac!

I figured I'd re-post my riddle for your convenience:

Soft, heavy, or hard:
Found not in a lie
Yet everywhere am I
Shun me and you die...
Soft, heavy, or hard.

And here's a hint:
Think literally and use idioms.

I welcome any and all guesses!

[Raefindel]

Boy, that's a tough one Nuranar. I'll have to think on that a while. smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Kalimac]

Raefindel - I'm sorry, I hadn't meant to sound snarky about the riddle you posted - I don't remember all the riddles on the thread either, the reason I remembered this one was because I liked it so much. Mostly I'd mentioned it to let you know that this was not an unaided deduction on my part smilies/smile.gif.

Nuranar - Thank you, but dear lord. That's a really good riddle. The part that keeps tripping me up is "found not in a lie" otherwise I'd guess that it was water...

[Nuranar]

But, my dear Kalimac, it IS water!!! Way to go! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

As for the "not found in a lie," that's an approximate way of using the idiom "doesn't hold water." Sorry if that was really confusing.

Thanks, all, for saying it was a good, tough riddle--I made it up myself! It did take a while, though; actually, I thought up the three middle lines while I was in the shower. smilies/rolleyes.gif

Well, maybe I'll start working on another. Oh, boy! This is fun!

[Aragorn Husband of Arwen]

Recapping my riddle:

I am at a place where I have never been, though one has, and one hasn't. What am I doing?

Your only hint, the "I" is me. I post the answer when I think yall give up, or yall say you give up.

Okay, since no one could guess the answer is....walking. Stand up. Put one foot forward, now stop. Notice one foot is in a place where you have never walked (well probably have) and the other is in a place you have. smilies/smile.gif

[Samwise]

Whoa....Aragorn Husband of Arwen, I never would have guessed that!
"Well, I'm back."
Sam Gamgee

[Kalimac]

Aragorn (can I call you that for short?) that was good. Never would have gotten that one in a hundred threads.

Nuranar - woohoo! Actually the "doesn't hold water" clue makes good sense - just hadn't quite wrapped my mind around all the ways water is used metaphorically. Actually I thought of the answer while I was doing dishes and thinking of how hard the water is here comparatively, and then...

Does anyone have any more? I'm trying to think of another which is slightly sneakier than my previous ones smilies/smile.gif.

[Kalimac]

OK, here it is. Hope this one is a little more satisfyingly twisty smilies/smile.gif.

There are two of them, they are brothers
The second twice as large as the first
To know the second, you must meet the first
Although only the second is ever sought.
Every man meets them.

Who/what are they?

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[Samwise]

I know this isn't it, but I'm just throwing something out--
Fame and Fortune?
"A fair jaw-cracker dwarf language must be! "
~Sam Gamgee

[Kalimac]

No, but you're on the right track smilies/smile.gif. Do you have a new one? (I've pretty much given up rhyming them for the moment; the grammar was getting too tortured smilies/frown.gif ).

[Raefindel]

I have one, and let's hope I haven't already used it and have such a short memory I don't remember.

What falls but never breaks?
What breaks but never falls? smilies/wink.gif

[Samwise]

Ugh...I haven't been feeling really great today--one HAS been bumping around in my head, but I'm not sure of which way to put it.
"But I'm beginning to think it's time we got sight of that Fiery Mountain, and saw the end of the Road, so to speak. I thought at first this here Redhorn, or whatever its name is, might be it, till Gimli spoke his peice. "
~Sam Gamgee

[Samwise]

Uh--Silence?

Truth and Justice?

(for the two riddles respectively).
It was Sam's turn that day to take the first watch, but Aragorn joined him. The silence grew until even Sam felt it. The occasional movements of his feet became loud noises. Sam could hear his own joints creaking, if he stirred.

[Kalimac]

Oh, Raefindel, it didn't matter at all. And for your riddle I'm going to make a really weird guess, so please don't laugh too hard smilies/smile.gif.

What falls but never breaks is the mercury in a thermometer.
What breaks but never falls is a fever.

Hey, it sort of works.

[Kalimac]

No, not truth and justice. They're definitely a pair in that vein, though smilies/smile.gif. I'm sorry you haven't been feeling well - hope it's just one those things that rest and tylenol will take care of...

[Samwise]

What falls but never breaks?
What breaks but never falls?

Night falls
Day breaks
(Maybe...?)
[QUOTE]Sam looked up into the pale sky, fearing to see hawks or eagles hovering over them with bright unfriendly eyes.
"You do make me feel uncomfortable and

[Samwise]

It's a little more difficult to explain than that, I'm afraid. smilies/frown.gif It'll pass, though.
Not truth and justice? Um...
(let me try this quote again)
Sam looked up into the pale sky, fearing to see hawks or eagles hovering over them with bright unfriendly eyes.
"You do make me feel uncomfortable and lonesome, Strider! " he said.

[Kalimac]

Night and day sound good...can't think of anything else more likely, actually.

[Kalimac]

Samwise, if you'd like a hint, they both start with the same letter smilies/smile.gif. And I do hope you feel better (sorry, I can't think of any other way to put that doesn't sound horribly cliched - could say an ave for you if you wanted, though).

[Raefindel]

Well, you are doing very well for someone who doesn't feel wel, Night and Day it is! Thoug Kalimac's answer was a stroke of genius I thought!

I hope you feel better soon. Your up Samwise.

Hey! Look! I'M A GHOST PRINCE!

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[Samwise]

Hm....Only thing I can think of at the moment.....

I am strong enough to hold back the sun
yet I can be moved by the touch of a hand

Suddenly a low voice murmured:
"Gil-Galad was an elven-king.
Of him the harpers sadly sing:
the last whose realm was fair and free
between the Mountains and the Sea.

His sword was long, his lance was keen,
his shining helm afar was seen;
the countless stars of Heaven's feild
were mirrored in his silver shield..

But long ago he rode away
and where he dwelleth none can say
for into darkness fell his star
in Mordor where the shadows are. "

The others turned in amazement, for the voice was Sam's.

[Kalimac]

Congrats, Raefindel! You're going to have to start thinking up your own title soon, aren't you? smilies/smile.gif Glad you liked my silly thermometer - no idea where on earth that came from.

Samwise, nice work! [Kalimac gives Samwise a cyber-high five]

[Kalimac]

Samwise - a hat? (or sunscreen, but that doesn't seem so likely).

[Samwise]

Thank you, Kalimac.

Nope, neither of those. Thought it would be easier than that-- OH,WELL. smilies/biggrin.gif
"That's all I know." stammered Sam, blushing. "I learned it from Mr. Bilbo when I was a lad. "

[Kalimac]

De nada, Samwise smilies/smile.gif.

Somehow I can't get away from the clothing/physical object answers though I've got a distinct feeling they're not right. Maybe a window blind?

[Samwise]

Habla espanol, Kalimac? No es window blind, but es en una ventana. smilies/wink.gif
"There was a lot more," said Sam, "all about Mordor. I didn't learn that part, it gave me the shivers. "

[Samwise]

Whoa--thought of another--got to write it down before I forget it.

I sit behind glass all day
until a child comes my way
he asks his mother for the key
which he uses to set me free!
But alas! My freedom is vain
It's a good thing I can't feel pain.
At that moment Sam came running back from the edge of the dell.
"I don't know what it is," he said, "--but I suddenly felt afraid. I durstn't go outside this dell for any money" I felt that something was creeping up the slope. "

[Aragorn Husband of Arwen]

You may call me Aragorn for short if you wish.

Okay here you go:
It is happening....
It doesn't happen very often...
Sometimes never...
It is day...
It is night...
At the same time....

What is happening?

[Samwise]

An eclipse, sir?
Sam refused to leave his master. He came and sat, curled up at Frodo's feet, where at last he nodded and closed his eyes.

[Kalimac]

Samwise, nope, unfortunately, that was one of the languages I didn't take smilies/smile.gif - wish I had, it's awfully useful. (I did a double major in Russian and German, if you'll believe it smilies/smile.gif. But my fiance lived in PR for six years so I've picked up a phrase or two. Khoroshii otvet! (Russian for "good answer" smilies/smile.gif).

Is the answer to your latest riddle a toy tank? (At least if my four-year-old brother is anything to go by, any toy that leaves that tank is in for a rough time).

[Kalimac]

Aragorn - the thrush knocking on the door on Durin's Day? smilies/smile.gif (since the sun and moon were in the sky together then...)

[Samwise]

Nope, not a toy tank. (though I'm not sure if you mean one thing or another, it's still neither).
"What about the elves?" said Sam, too excited. "Can't we go and see them? "

[Kalimac]

Maybe one of those gumball machines, then? smilies/smile.gif.

[Aragorn Husband of Arwen]

You got it Samwise!

[Kalimac]

Congrats, Samwise - you're certainly on a roll right now. Hope you're feeling a little better from that smilies/smile.gif.

Aragorn, random question; would you happen to be a fan of B5?

[Samwise]

Thank you, Aragorn. smilies/biggrin.gif
Uh, Kalimac, a tad more specific.
"Elves! " exclaimed Sam. "Elves, sir!" He would have burst out of the trees and dashed off, if they had not pulled him back.

[Kalimac]

Sorry...I'm kind of slow this evening...do you mean just a gumball then? Or am I off-track?

[Samwise]

Yep, that was it. Just the gumball.
Well, my brain is near wore out, an' I'm havin' trouble keepin' my eyes open. Miss Kalimac and Mister Aragorn, sir, I hope to see you next time I come wanderin' through here. smilies/redface.gif
~Samwise
"Yes, sir!" said Sam. "Begging your pardon, sir! But I meant no wrong to you, Mr. Frodo, nor to Mr. Gandalf. He has some sense, and when you said go alone, he said no! take someone as you can trust. "

[Kalimac]

Cool! (Oh lord, now I have to think of another one...well, I'll think about it for a bit). Have a good night, m'lady Samwise smilies/smile.gif.

Meanwhile, in lieu of the new riddle I haven't thought of yet, I'll refer people back to the "two brothers" one I posted on the first page.

[Amanruthiel]

Hi, sorry not been on for a couple of days - wow we've moved.

Yes, Nuranar it was life!

There are two of them, they are brothers
The second twice as large as the first
To know the second, you must meet the first
Although only the second is ever sought.
Every man meets them.

Who/what are they?

Is it birth and death.

[Nuranar]

There are two of them, they are brothers
The second twice as large as the first
To know the second, you must meet the first
Although only the second is ever sought.
Every man meets them.

Who/what are they?


Boy, Kalimac, this is hard! Question: Is the second actually twice as large, or is it just larger in a metaphorical sense, and not necessarily twice as large?

Hmm...Guess I'll keep working on it!

[Aragorn Husband of Arwen]

Kalimac, yes I would be. smilies/smile.gif

[Kalimac]

No, it's not birth and death. Good guess, though!

Nuranar - it's literally twice as large, but just remember that that statement can apply to a couple of different angles of the answer smilies/smile.gif.

Aragorn - The Z'ha'dum kind of tipped me off - actually I've seen very little B5 but have friends who were devoted to it and have taped every episode. And hearing them talk about it I was rather struck by the similarity to Khazad-Dum...total coincidence, I'm sure smilies/smile.gif.

Still trying to think of my new riddle - I'll be back smilies/evil.gif .

[Amanruthiel]

Sorry to go off track - but stuck on Kalimac's riddle (good one!)

There are a numebr of links between B5 and LOTR - I read an article about it. Another link is the us of Rangers - they even dress the same. (Just though you may be interested!!)

A xx smilies/tongue.gif

[Rimbaud]

Kalimac - my guess for your superb riddle is 'Life & Love'; although I am nearly sure I am incorrect. It's definitely a tricky one...

[Amanruthiel]

Kalimac - still stumped - a clue if you please.

A xx

[Aragorn Husband of Arwen]

Kalimac - I'm not that big of a fan. But the similarity between the two are amazing. I'll try to find the link, but I found a website talking of the similarites. smilies/smile.gif

Also, give clue, Im stumped!

[Firladion Greenbow]

There are two of them, they are brothers
The second twice as large as the first
To know the second, you must meet the first
Although only the second is ever sought.
Every man meets them.
Who/what are they?


I was thinking of Boyhood/Manhood, but on reflection I am not so sure.

I have been racking my brain cell for days thinking of another riddle, still racking.

A.Y.S.
F.G.

[Samwise]

Hm. Sounds good to me, sir.

LOL.......Robin Hood country....
"And after all, sir," added Sam, "you did ought to take the elves' advice. Gildor said you should take them as was willing, and you can't deny it. "

[Firladion Greenbow]

It's true as well!

F.G.

[Kalimac]

Oof...now I'm hoping the riddle wasn't *too* vague. All of the guesses are really ingenious (I mean, they're not answers I'd ever have thought of, if presented with this riddle) but I really didn't intend to stymie the thread to this point. Here are some hints:

(1) Both answers begin with the same letter (I've given this one before)

(2) The second "brother" is literally twice as large as the first, but not in a way that can be physically measured (what I mean is, don't try to use a ruler, tape measure, scale or anything like that, it won't work)

(3) Both of them physically stimulate the nerves. And no, they're not off-color, so don't bother smilies/smile.gif.

Hope that helps. If this goes on much longer, would you mind if I just told the answer? Then you'll all know and can say in chorus "WHAT? How do get that answer from those clues?" smilies/smile.gif.

[Samwise]

It's true as well!
F.G.

Which is part of what makes it so great!! smilies/biggrin.gif
Sam stood by him, his round eyes wide open - for he was looking across lands he had never seen to a new horizon.

[Samwise]

Then you'll all know and can say in chorus "WHAT? How do get that answer from those clues?" .

Agh...you're certainly right, Kalimac, but I'll try once more....
The Sun and the Moon?
Sam had a natural mistrust of the inhabitants of other parts of the Shire; and also he was not disposed to be quick friends with anyone who had beaten his master, however long ago.

[Samwise]

And speaking of Kalimac's riddle...(kidding)...

Here's another from Sam.
---------------------------------------------
I have no physical form
but I can bring a man to a halt.
As large as I may seem,
something quite small can end my reign.
What am I?
LOTR (Movie) Moment (IV) (Moria)
Orcs are everywhere
Samwise whacks one with a pot
gets..."the hang of this!" smilies/smile.gif

Copyright 2002 S. Uffelman

[Kalimac]

Samwise, is yours an illness? It's not the Sun and the Moon either. Oh dear...

Firladion, now you make me want to visit Robin Hood country ...

BTW about my last one - is anyone for just having me tell what the answer is and then barraging me? I wouldn't mind if the rest wouldn't.

[Samwise]

In a sense, Kalimac.
Okay, one more guess, and then I'll go get some snails out of the garden to throw at you (kidding.....)
LOVE and FREINDSHIP? No, those don't have sizes.....ah, I don't know! smilies/frown.gif

LOTR (Movie) Moment (III) (Second Breakfast)
Pippin stops to cook
Aragorn says there's no time
Apple hits a head.

Copyright 2002 S. Uffelman

[Kalimac]

Ouch, poor snails. (Unless they do something nasty to plants; never lived in snail country when it comes to gardening). No, it's not love and friendship (do you like Jane Austen, Samwise? smilies/smile.gif). Would you like to know the answer? It was a little scary to log in this evening and see all those "I have no idea" messages, maybe I should just get it over with smilies/smile.gif.

Is yours a headache? (Aspirin getting rid of it).

[Samwise]

........or tylenol, or in my case CODINE after this riddle.....yep, that's it.
(I realized when I posted the riddle, I also posted the haiku about Sam whacking the Orc...giveaway, no? smilies/wink.gif )
LOTR (Movie) Moment (II) (Moria)
Nine Walkers enter
Frodo's sword glows with blue light
door barred--Orcs coming!

Copyright 2002 S. Uffelman

[Samwise]

Sam:Wait.......you live somewhere where the're no SNAILS!?!?! Not fair. You should see what they've done to my poor daffydowndillys... smilies/frown.gif

Stacey: Daffodils, Sam....

Sam: That's what I said....
LOTR (Movie) Moment (IV) (Moria)
Orcs are everywhere
Samwise whacks one with a pot
gets..."the hang of this!" smilies/smile.gif

Copyright 2002 S. Uffelman

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[Nuranar]

Please, Kalimac, post the answer! I'm sure I'll smack my head and dance around the room, calling myself a triple imbecile, but all the same I don't have the energy to try to guess it.

Samwise, I like your riddle - although I'm not a man, it's unfortunately all too true for me...and sometimes the "something quite small" doesn't end its reign... smilies/frown.gif

[Kalimac]

OK everyone, here it is, and I'll admit right here that some of the clues were a little...off-kilter...so please don't banish me ... please? smilies/frown.gif

The riddle is:

There are two of them, they are brothers
The second twice as large as the first
To know the second, you must meet the first
Although only the second is ever sought.
Every man meets them.
Who/what are they?

The answer is.......PAIN and PLEASURE. They're a natural pair (brothers), and you have to experience pain before you can appreciate pleasure (if you want to be very literal, everyone experiences the pain of birth before they can experience the pleasure of, well, anything else). And nobody deliberately seeks out pain - well, there are a few exceptions but we're talking about the normal 99% of the world here - while everyone seeks pleasant experiences. Every man meets them - that probably doesn't need too much explanation.

And as for "the second twice as large as the first" - well, count the number of letters in each word.

There it is. All questions and scoldings are welcome smilies/smile.gif. And while I have a couple more riddles which I'm due to come up with, I can promise wholeheartedly that I will not use the number of letters as a clue ever again.

[Amanruthiel]

Kalimac

May I be the first to congratualte you for such a taxing riddle! Honestly would never have got it!!

Off to take some nurofen now to get rid of my headache from trying to solve it.

A xx smilies/wink.gif smilies/wink.gif

[Rimbaud]

Kalimac - very good; enjoyable trying to solve it. Congrats, that was a good one.

Um...

How about:
I do not breathe, but I run and jump.
I do not eat, but I swim and stretch.
I do not drink, but I sleep and stand.
I do not think, but I grow and play.
I do not see, but you see me every day.

smilies/wink.gif

[AnnúnwenOfRivendell]

Gosh, that's a good one Stephanos, I'm going to have to think about that one tonight. I'll try to have an answer tomorrow.

[Samwise]

Samwise, I like your riddle - although I'm not a man, it's unfortunately all too true for me...and sometimes the "something quite small" doesn't end its reign...
LOL--I'm not either, Nuranar. smilies/wink.gif I thought about putting it that way when I posted it--but I couldn't figure out anyway to word it otherwise. TY.
"Well, I'm back."
Sam Gamgee

[Samwise]

(After reading the answer to Kalimac's riddle)
AAAIIIIIII! smilies/eek.gif smilies/eek.gif smilies/eek.gif smilies/eek.gif smilies/eek.gif
"If I hear 'not allowed' much oftener I'm going to get angry."
Sam Gamgee

[Nuranar]

My compliments to Kalimac! *curtseys low, down to the ground*

Hmm, I'll be thinking about yours, Stephanos, while I'm studying tonight... smilies/rolleyes.gif

LOL, I know you're not, Samwise!
smilies/wink.gif

[Nuranar]

Okay, here's the first fruit of my (mental) labors.

Stephanos: My shadow?

It seems to fit everything.

[Samwise]

'Kay. Keep forgetting who here knows that an' who dosen't.
smilies/wink.gif
'Yes, I am with you, Master,' said Sam...'And you're with me. And the journey's finished. But after coming all that way I don't want to give up yet. It's not like me, somehow, if you understand.'"
Sam Gamgee

[Aragorn Husband of Arwen]

Kalimac: Excellent riddle. smilies/smile.gif

I agree with Nuranar, that would be the only thing I can think of.

[Kalimac]

Nuranar - Thank you [Kalimac blushes]. Shadow sounds good as an answer to Stephanos' riddle as anything - in fact I can't even THINK of anything else.

Samwise - Umm, was that a good AIIII or a bad AIIII? smilies/smile.gif

And in case anyone is still willing to guess at a riddle that I wrote, here's one of the backed-up ones I should have done a while ago.

Millions of lives will end to create me
In every house it happens, every day.
I am not alive, and yet I grow.
And when my growth is ended, I will shrink
Until there is nothing left.

[Samwise]

"Shadow" sounds good to me, too.

Kalimac, that was a combination of things 1) at how good that riddle was, 2)at the headache I got trying to figure it out smilies/wink.gif 3)relief that my widdle brain no longer has to try to figure it out! smilies/biggrin.gif

As to your newest riddle, Kalimac--dust?
When thirteen had fallen and the rest fled shrieking, leaving the defenders unharmed, except for Sam, who had a scratch along the scalp. A quick duck had saved him; and he had felled his Orc; a sturdy thrust with his Barrow-blade. A fire was smouldering in his brown eyes that would have made Ted Sandyman step backwards, if he had seen it.

[Kalimac]

Samwise - no, not dust. But it is something you see around the house a lot (wait, I think I just said more about the condition of my apartment than I meant to... smilies/smile.gif)

Stephanos are you out there? Is it a shadow or do we have to start over? smilies/frown.gif

[Samwise]

LOL! Yeah, as I made that guess I thought about the room I rent..... smilies/rolleyes.gif "What did you see?" said Pippin to Sam, but Sam was too deep in thought to answer.

[Raefindel]

Geez these are tough, guys! I haven't had a guess in days! smilies/frown.gif

[Kalimac]

Hmmm...how do you do gardening if you're renting a room? Is there a backyard that you can use? Lucky smilies/smile.gif. I have two rooms but no yard except for the front lawns, which I cannot plant stuff on. Now if I switched to an apartment on the first floor...ahh, I'm moving soon enough anyway.

Hint for the riddle: you're most likely only to see it in one or two particular rooms of the house.

[Kalimac]

Hello, Rae! If you want, you can post one of your own and let us agonize for a change smilies/smile.gif.

[Samwise]

Don't you remember my describing my garden to you in that PM, Kalimac? The room I rent is actually my own, in my parent's house. A couple of years ago, as I think I explained,
I "claimed" the front yard.
(If you don't, it's okay, 'cause half the time I think I've said things, and then I find out I haven't... smilies/rolleyes.gif )
For some time Frodo and Sam managed to keep up with the others, but after a while they lagged behind. Sam's cut was burning like fire, and his head felt light. In spite of the shining sun the wind felt chill. He shivered.

[Samwise]

....and what do you mean, you can't plant things in your lawn? I have two freesias and a jonny-jump up growing in ours! (of course, they planted themselves.... smilies/wink.gif
Aragorn tended to Sam and Frodo. Sam's wound was not deep, but it looked ugly, and Aragorn's face was grave as he examined it. After a moment he looked up with relief. "Good luck, Sam!" he said, "Many have recieved worse than this in payment for the slaying of their first Orc. "

[Kalimac]

Actually, Samwise, I don't think you ever did (just took a moment to glance over my PMs). If you want to do so, though, I'd be more than happy to read it smilies/smile.gif. Still lucky, though - I can't see my dad ever relinquishing his garden even if I still lived at home (though honestly he's much better at it than I'll ever be ...)

[Kalimac]

I mean that they're not my lawns, they're the apt. complex's lawns which they hire gardeners to take care of, and they'll thank you not to plant anything there, since it might interfere with the landscaping. So yes, they're perfectly capable of growing stuff, but I can't plant it there. Sigh. Ah, Suburbia.

Do you want any more hints for the riddle? (Just bowing in the direction of the topic for the moment smilies/smile.gif).

[Samwise]

I didn't mean recently, you asked me about my garden, and.....
What? Oh, yeah, the topic. Not dust...uh...something spilled?
"They're Elves," said Sam. "Can't you hear their voices? "
"Yes, they are Elves," said Legolas, "and they say that you breathe so loudly that they could shoot you in the dark."
Sam hastily put his hand over his mouth.

[Kalimac]

Nope, not something spilled. Think about the "millions must die" bit.

The garden thing is confusing me now! But I think we have each other's respective gardening situations pretty well mapped out at least smilies/smile.gif. I do remember you mentioning that you're a flower person, though, and the fact that the snails are pretty bad for them. (You could have fooled this northerner smilies/smile.gif).

[Samwise]

Mm. Okay, must have dreamed it. (I can't have dreams that are actually INTERESTING, like some folks on this board....)
And as per your riddle, this just popped into my head, though it's probably not right.: Hair?
Out of the shadows a ladder was let down. Legolas ran lightly up, and Frodo followed slowly; behind came Sam, trying not to breathe loudly.

[Kalimac]

Hair - no it's not the answer, but I like it. It really could fit, especially since hair consists of millions of dead cells (fun thought as I try to untangle it every morning). I think you have to get style points for that one smilies/smile.gif. But no, it's something else. And like I said, it mostly shows up in one or two rooms.

[Amanruthiel]

Hi Guys,

I have a new riddle can I add it while to figure the last two out?

A xx smilies/tongue.gif

[the_true_king_of_the_ring]

WHATS RED AND HAIRY ???

F*NN*E RASH!!!!!!!!!!
smilies/confused.gif smilies/eek.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/redface.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/frown.gif smilies/cool.gif

[Amanruthiel]

Stephanos is yours reflection or shadow?

Kalimac is yours mould?

Don't think the second one quite fits thinking about it!!

A xx smilies/tongue.gif

[Amanruthiel]

My riddle:

You say I may not enter,
That your errors are my mistakes.
You think you can control me,
but I know there is escape.
I know when you are lying,
for I come here every day.
So why not stop your mischief,
and let me come and play.

What am I?

A xx smilies/wink.gif

[Rimbaud]

Hello everyone; I have not deserted you. I am afraid that the correct answer to my riddle has not yet been posted. Not shadow or reflection I feel. My only clue is to go for something more tangible and more literal.

I'll cut and paste it back here in a second... smilies/wink.gif

I do not breathe, but I run and jump.
I do not eat, but I swim and stretch.
I do not drink, but I sleep and stand.
I do not think, but I grow and play.
I do not see, but you see me every day.

There you go... good luck! Amanruthiel this is a little 'out-there' but is the answer to yours, your sense of humour?

[ April 10, 2002: Message edited by: Stephanos ]

[Belin]

Kalimac: is it dirty dishes?

[Belin]

Um, "Belin", would you mind not using my account, please?

[Samwise]

Amanruthiel, here's another off the wall guess if Stephanos is incorrect--your riddle reminds me of an old children's story--is it
"Nobody"?
It was Sam who had insisted on choosing him, declaring that Bill (as he called him) would pine if he did not come.
"That animal can nearly talk," he said, "and would talk, if he stayed here much longer. He gave me a look as plain as Mr. Pippin could speak it: if you don't let me go with you, Sam, I'll follow on my own. "

[Rimbaud]

Would people rather I simply posted the solution to my riddle?

Or would you prefer a couple more guesses? It is quite an old riddle...

smilies/smile.gif

[Raefindel]

Samwise, That was me you told about your garden. Sounds nice.

Stephanos, I would guess a creek or river, but the 'see" part doesn't fit.

Amanruthiel, I have no Idea.Good riddle.

[Rimbaud]

Clue number 2 - there are two of the answer.

Clue number three - without one you are drunk

[Samwise]

OH! Thank you, Rae--I thought I was going nuts! (or nuttier than I already am!)
"A fair jaw-cracker dwarf language must be! "
~Sam Gamgee

[Susan Delgado]

Aye, I'm sorry Belin. Twon't happen again.

[Raefindel]

Mae Govannen, Susan. Welcome to the downs. Enjoy your time here.

[Samwise]

Hullo an' welcome, Susan!
It was Sam's turn that day to take the first watch, but Aragorn joined him. The silence grew until even Sam felt it. The occasional movements of his feet became loud noises. Sam could hear his own joints creaking, if he stirred.

[Belin]

Thanks, Susan... and in that case, welcome to the Downs from me as well. smilies/wink.gif (Hey, cool, my first welcoming of anybody)
Ahem. Back to your regularly scheduled riddles.

--Belin Ibaimendi

[Susan Delgado]

Thankee smilies/smile.gif

I've a riddle as well, so I do.

If you break me, I'll not stop working.
If you can touch me, my work is done.
If you lose me, you must find me with a ring soon after.

[Samwise]

If you break me, I'll not stop working.
If you can touch me, my work is done.
If you lose me, you must find me with a ring soon after
A heart?
At that moment Sam came running back from the edge of the dell.
"I don't know what it is," he said, "--but I suddenly felt afraid. I durstn't go outside this dell for any money" I felt that something was creeping up the slope. "

[Susan Delgado]

You got it smilies/smile.gif

[Kalimac]

Hello everyone! (Especially Susan, since she's new. Willkommen, bienvenue, welcome. May you soon become a Shade). No, it's not mould or dirty dishes (urgh) but geographically you're getting rather close smilies/smile.gif.

Amanruthiel - yours wouldn't happen to be a computer, would it? smilies/smile.gif (At least if all those "system has performed an illegal operation" messages are as irritating for you as they are for me).

Stephanos, this is probably wrong but would yours be a leaf?

[Samwise]

You got it
Really? Wow--I wasn't sure!
"Elves! " exclaimed Sam. "Elves, sir!" He would have burst out of the trees and dashed off, if they had not pulled him back.

[Kalimac]

Stephanos - please forget my last guess, I hadn't remembered all the clues. Is the answer legs? (If someone is very drunk, after all, they might as well not have any).

[ April 11, 2002: Message edited by: Kalimac ]

[Susan Delgado]

Good guessing, Mistress Samwise smilies/smile.gif

An' here's another yet

What lies in bed, and stands in bed,
first white, then red.
The plumper it gets,
the better the old woman likes it.

(An' no, everyone's first guess is wrong. Getcher minds out of the gutter! smilies/rolleyes.gif )

[Susan Delgado]

Kalimac, is it laundry?

[Rimbaud]

Kalimac got it right. Well done!

Oh, now I have to work out everybody else's...hold on I'll edit in some guesses in a second...

Susan, is it a rose? As in 'flowerbed'?

[ April 11, 2002: Message edited by: Stephanos ]

[Amanruthiel]

Kalimac

Good guess you got it right - how did you guess my computer keeps sending me loads of lovely error messages lately.

A xx smilies/tongue.gif

[Susan Delgado]

No, but you're on the right track.

[Rimbaud]

Susan ~ a tomato plant? Or am I slightly off-beam with my prediliction for vegetation?

[Aragorn Husband of Arwen]

Kalimac: Wild guess, but could it be Bacteria? smilies/tongue.gif

[Susan Delgado]

Stephanos, you are right in the middle of the right beam. It is vegetable in nature. smilies/smile.gif

[Firladion Greenbow]

What vegetable type thing starts white then goes red?

I don't have a clue!

While i'm thinking, get your teeth into these.

I cast my net, but not for fish,
A tasty morsel is all I wish,
Some fear, some hate and some love me,
But I care not, for I am free,
As big as a hand,
I stalk the land,
or as small as a flea,
No-one sees me.

What am I?

And if that was not enough.

Here I stand, still, proud and strong,
But in this time I don't belong,
I would point, and men would cower before me,
I could enslave or I could set free,
Born in red, raised in silver, fought in red,
In the heat of battle, I have led.

What am I?

These make sense to me, but that doesn't mean a great deal!

Good luck.

A.Y.S.
F.G.

[Kalimac]

Firladion, is your first riddle a spider? And Susan, would yours be a strawberry? (They start out green, then go white and then red, don't they?)

Amanruthiel and Stephanos, thank you smilies/smile.gif. Yes, my computer acts strangely similar...grr...

Good lord, I'm backed up by about three riddles now - argh. Probably better to wait until the latest is gotten or given away, though smilies/smile.gif - it's not bacteria or laundry, it's something GOOD which everyone here has probably seen almost every day of their lives. Here it is again, just for a refresher.

Millions of lives will end to create me
In every house it happens, every day.
I am not alive, and yet I grow.
And when my growth is ended, I will shrink
Until there is nothing left.

[Susan Delgado]

Aye, that's it, Kalimac. A Strawberry smilies/smile.gif

[Susan Delgado]

This probably isn't it, but, Firladion, is your second riddle the sun?

[Lady_Báin]

firladion is yours a sword you know the forgers fire is red then its silver and then its covered in blood in battle.

[Lady_Báin]

smilies/smile.gif okay this is my first riddle, and it dosen't rhyme, and it probably makes no sense at all, (ok breathe), on with the riddle.

I can last longer without water that a camel.

I can be as large as a cat.

If you spell my name backwards you will get the first ingriedient in a certain public ridicule - the other being the supreme tickler smilies/tongue.gif

[Samwise]

Whoa--Sounds like a good riddle to me. I think it's okay if they don't rhyme, I've written ones that don't. Welcome to the board.

LOTR (Movie) Moment (III) (Second Breakfast)
Pippin stops to cook
Aragorn says there's no time
Apple hits a head.

Copyright 2002 S. Uffelman

[Samwise]

my computer keeps sending me loads of lovely error messages lately.

You too? So does mine--or "Page Cannot be Displayed..." those fun things. smilies/frown.gif
LOTR (Movie) Moment (II) (Moria)
Nine Walkers enter
Frodo's sword glows with blue light
door barred--Orcs coming!

Copyright 2002 S. Uffelman

[Samwise]

Okay, since I have no guesses, here's another one from Sam.
---------------------------------------------
Many families live here
though they don't know each other.
Babies are born but mothers feel no pain.
elders die but no one mourns
nor do they celebrate even though
the deaths bring new life.
Where does this happen?
LOTR (Movie) Moment (IV) (Moria)
Orcs are everywhere
Samwise whacks one with a pot
gets..."the hang of this!" smilies/smile.gif

Copyright 2002 S. Uffelman

[Firladion Greenbow]

Well what do you know, a Strawberry! should have guessed that, 'smacks head in anguish' smilies/rolleyes.gif

Kalimac that's right, spider it is.

And you too Lady_Báin, it is indeed a sword, and by the way, welcome to the Barrow-Downs.

Thank the Gods you got them, I showed them to my wife and she looked at me as though i'd gone mad! (mind you, this may well be the case.........do mad people know thier mad?)

From Kalimac

Millions of lives will end to create me
In every house it happens, every day.
I am not alive, and yet I grow.
And when my growth is ended, I will shrink
Until there is nothing left.

uummmm, I thought dust, but I know that's not right.

From Lady_Báin

I can last longer without water that a camel.

I can be as large as a cat.

If you spell my name backwards you will get the first ingriedient in a certain public ridicule - the other being the supreme tickler


Oh gosh, my head hurts, too much thinking.

And finally, from Samwise

Many families live here
though they don't know each other.
Babies are born but mothers feel no pain.
elders die but no one mourns
nor do they celebrate even though
the deaths bring new life.
Where does this happen?


Could this be a forest or wood?

I am going to put an ice pack on my head now before my brains dribble out of my ears. smilies/eek.gif

F.G.

[Samwise]

No, Mister Greenbow, sir, not a forest or wood. (I could make a good Robin Hood joke right now, but since you already have a headache, I won't. smilies/wink.gif)
"Gollum's doing, I'll be bound," said Sam to Frodo. "And a nice place to choose, too. The River seems set on taking us right into their arms! "

[Susan Delgado]

I'm quite sure this is way off, but, is it a colony of protozoa?

[Samwise]

Agh....I knew what protozoa were at one time...no, Susan, not it, but points for showing off brains at this time of night (our morning, depending where you are).
To Sam in the lead boat was given the task of watchman*. It was close to midnight when suddenly Sam cried out. Only a few yards ahead dark shapes loomed up in the stream and he heard the swirl of racing water.
(*Eh--shouldn't that have been watchhobbit?) smilies/wink.gif

[Kalimac]

Samwise, is yours a garden? (All those flowers, dying and producing seeds for next year...)

Oh, yes, protozoa. They're the...um...the...well, they're the opposite of some other kind of cell. I think they don't have mitochondria and that's their main distinguishing feature. (You can tell how much fun I was to be lab partners with smilies/biggrin.gif ).

Um, does anyone have any final guesses on mine before I give up and tell the answer? I'd kinda like to post another one and don't want to be fielding two at once...

[Lady_Báin]

Kalimac define alive. please smilies/smile.gif

[Samwise]

Samwise, is yours a garden? (All those flowers, dying and producing seeds for next year...)
LOL, Kalimac, you're getting to know me too well! Yes, it is indeed a garden. I can't help it, my brain keeps drifting in that direction.... smilies/tongue.gif
LOL---Kalimac, when I had science in the 8th grade, and we had to dissect frogs, my partner was a guy and he refused to touch the thing. I did it all myself. smilies/wink.gif
There the white rind of the New Moon could be seen glimmering on the remote lakes. Sam looked at it, and puckered his brows.

[Nuranar]

Lady_Báin, is yours a rat?

Kalimac, I cannot guess yours! My compliments for an excellent riddle and please tell us the answer!!

[Susan Delgado]

My understanding of protozoa is that it's simply a generic term for single celled organisms. I'd have said "amoebas", but protozoa is more fun to say. smilies/smile.gif
I guessed this because they reproduce by fission (is it painless? well, I don't rightly know) and they have no emotions to mourn those who die.

[Kalimac]

Nuranar and Lady_Bain, thank you very much. I think I'm just going to answer it now (also because, to be honest, the only definition I could give of "alive" in this case is "it reproduces" which wouldn't help much). Here's the riddle:

Millions of lives will end to create me
In every house it happens, every day.
I am not alive, and yet I grow.
And when my growth is ended, I will shrink
Until there is nothing left.

The answer is....BREAD. The millions of lives are, of course, the yeast.

Samwise - Thank you! smilies/smile.gif. I am complimented. Yes, I remember the frog...also the little squid, the fish, the worm, the cow's eye, the whole panoply. And actually I usually was the one that did the dissecting; I was good at using the scalpel (I remember my biology teacher standing up front and saying "OK, class, now's the time to separate the butchers from the brain surgeons.") My problem was that I was never what it was I was *seeing*. So usually I'd cut the thing up and my lab partner would figure out what was what. I was pretty helpless when it came to individual dissections, though. Ugh. Glad that's over.

Here's one of my backed-up riddles:

I cannot see, I cannot hear, I cannot taste or touch.
But without me, neither can you.

[Samwise]

Ah, thank YOU, Kalimac.
Is your latest riddle's answer the brain?
LOL on your science stories....you had to dissect ALL those different things?? EYECCH.
I remember later, in High school, we had, after the initial "Frog", the choice of doing other animals if we wished...one of which included a PREGNANT CAT!
smilies/eek.gif
Ugh...Okay, back to the topic....
Now that I think about it, "Rat" sounds good for that other riddle; being "tar" spelled backwards and "tar and feather" being public ridicule...and all. How in the WORLD did you figure that out???

[Kalimac]

Samwise, it is indeed the brain smilies/smile.gif. (Wonder what made me think of that?)

Pregnant cat? Urgh. Glad I missed that one! Did you ever have to do the fetal pig? I don't know how I forgot that when I was making that last list - it was undoubtedly the worst of all (blocked the memory or something, I guess). The thing that really got me was that the school had hundreds of tubs of fetal pigs all of which had been *donated by an alumnus*. I've wondered for a long time exactly what the alumnus was trying to say by doing that....

[Samwise]

Eew...you didn't have to dissect...ugh.
Anyway, YAY! Got it right! (Stick to that topic...)
Got to think up another riddle myself. They seem to only come when I'm not thinking about it.
"That's about it," said Sam. "I'll keep watch. I can sleep tomorrow, being no more than luggage in a boat, as you might say. "

[Lady_Báin]

yay!!! Yes Nuranar you got it I am glad smilies/biggrin.gif I thought it was to much of a mangeled mess, but you are to clever smilies/wink.gif !!

[Susan Delgado]

Ah, man! Kalimac, I thought of that answer but I didn't say it because I thought, "Well, it doesn't happen every day in every house"...erg

[Firladion Greenbow]

You lot are great at these, I can but watch in awe.

So, here is another for you.

I used to be mighty, I used to be free,
The wind used to blow through me,
But now i'm a shadow of my life before,
I just stand in a corner or pace the floor.

What am I?

F.G.

[Raefindel]

I used to be mighty, I used to be free,
The wind used to blow through me,
But now i'm a shadow of my life before,
I just stand in a corner or pace the floor.

What am I?

Master Greenbow, Is this a broom? It used to be a tree that the wind blows through, but now it sits in the corner...

[Kalimac]

Hmmm...broom sounds good to me, Raefindel, in fact nothing else sounds like a reasonable answer now...

Susan - Oops, sorry about the "every day, every house" thing. I can only say that if you grew up with four siblings and a mother who did all her own bread baking you do tend to take that line for granted...

[Susan Delgado]

Ah, well. Next time I'll just go ahead and make the wild guess smilies/smile.gif It was excellently stumping though. Very enjoyable.

[Marileangorifurnimaluim]

I've one, sorry it's not polished:

You can see me, though you're blind.
Light shines, but dispells no darkness.
Touch me and I live
But if you're touched I die.
What am I?

[Susan Delgado]

I just made this one up, so I don't know if it's lame or not, but here it is

I dwell together with hundreds of my brothers.
One day I'm let out,
One scratch and I die.

[Nuranar]

Lady_Báin and Samwise, thank you so much! I don't know how I guessed it; I just started with "the supreme tickler"--of course, a feather! and then the jump to tar and feathers, etc., etc. I'd love to post one in reply, but making up riddles doesn't just happen to me; I need to work on it. I'll be back!

Maril, the only thing I can think of right now is a dream.

[Firladion Greenbow]

Bugger it all, will I ever make one up that you can't guess!

Raefindel, once again you are correct, the answer is a Broom, well done!

I have now run out of riddles, so I will away and ponder those of others and try and think of others.

F.G.

[Raefindel]

Well, I guess we all know now where MY mind is... I'm well acquainted with brooms, Sir!

Actually, Greenbow, I'm not very good at this myself. I had my husband helping me think of a new riddle to post, because I can't come up with my own. The "Middle Earth Nursery Rhyme" I worked on for a long time before I posted it. Now I have to work on a new riddle to post! That's the trouble with winning... smilies/wink.gif

[Raefindel]

OK, here's a go, though I know it won't stump anyone.

Time in a bottle,
the home of a king.
Sleep aide,
fun in a box.

What am I?

[Kalimac]

Rae, is it sand?

Hello Maril! I have no idea what yours is. The only thing that came to mind was an atom bomb, I don't know why, but that obviously isn't the answer...

I can't really think of anything else in the way of riddles at this moment ... mental decay creeping in, I suppose smilies/smile.gif.

[Raefindel]

Sand it is. I knew it wouldn't stump anyone, but hey, you guys are so fun to play with. smilies/smile.gif

Good Job, Kalimac! smilies/smile.gif

[Samwise]

Actually, Rae, I was stumped by it until I scrolled down and saw Kalimac's answer!
BTW, I'm really no good at thinking them up, either, that #13 one was a total fluke.... smilies/rolleyes.gif
"I had a funny dream an hour or two before we stopped, Mr. Frodo. Or maybe it wasn't a dream. Funny it was, anyway. "
"Well, what was it?" said Frodo, knowing that sam would not settle down until he had told his tale, whatever it was.

[Samwise]

Susan, I'm sure this isn't it, but it's all I can think of at the moment: an itch?
When thirteen had fallen and the rest fled shrieking, leaving the defenders unharmed, except for Sam, who had a scratch along the scalp. A quick duck had saved him; and he had felled his Orc; a sturdy thrust with his Barrow-blade. A fire was smouldering in his brown eyes that would have made Ted Sandyman step backwards, if he had seen it.

[Kalimac]

I liked it too, mostly I was guessing on probabilities. What does the "home of a king" clue mean, BTW? I was thinking of something vaguely Pharaoh-related - pyramids, lots of sand surrounding them and all that - but not sure. And Samwise, if it helps, I tried the #13 riddle (with credit) on a couple of other people and neither of them came close smilies/wink.gif.

Now if only I had even the vaguest idea on some of these other ones...my brain is starting to feel a little squeezed.

[Marileangorifurnimaluim]

Nur, you got it, it's a dream. Well done, ask away.

Susan, is the answer to yours a match?

[Belegfanaion]

Here's one too, but it won't fool many of you:
Read am I,
Thick is my skin,
What a good place to keep words in!
What am I?

[Raefindel]

The already-guessed riddle explained:

Time in a bottle, =an hourglass
the home of a king. =a sand castle
Sleep aide, =the sandman favorite
fun in a box. =sandbox

What am I?

[Nuranar]

Belegfanaion, is yours a book?

Thanks, Maril! I really need to think up a riddle of my own instead of guessing everyone elses...

[Nuranar]

Well, I came across this when I was reading tonight. This is NOT mine, and strictly speaking it's not a riddle, but some of you might be able to guess what the answer is...

"They have mouths, but cannot speak,
eyes, but they cannot see;
they have ears, but cannot hear,
noses, but they cannot smell;
they have hands, but cannot feel,
feet, but they cannot walk;
nor can they utter a sound with their throats.
Those who make them will be like them,
and so will all who trust in them."

I will post the answer soon if no one guesses it, because it's really not mine and may be considered a trick because some of you might think it's similar to my "Shoes" riddle earlier...

[Susan Delgado]

That's right, Maril, a match smilies/smile.gif

[Amanruthiel]

Nuranar

Is your's a Teddy bear?

Read am I,
Thick is my skin,
What a good place to keep words in!
What am I?

Is it a dictionary?

A xx smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lady_Báin]

This is probably way off but Nuranar is yours a statue? smilies/smile.gif

[Nuranar]

No, it's not a teddy bear. In a manner of speaking it IS a statue; but in context...This really wasn't a fair riddle; I'll post the answer this evening (EST). Y'all are such good sports! My hat is off to you! *bows*

[Bragolandune]

Nuranar, is yours a shadow?

[Susan Delgado]

Nuranar, is it a religious idol?

[Susan Delgado]

Here's another that I wrote

I have two parts, a body and a hat,
Right now there is a third part, imagine that
I sit on fire hissing like a cat,
The third bubbles, the fire dies,
The hissing stops, and I am satisfied.

[Bragolandune]

wow, thats a hard one Susan. the only thing i can think of is a fire extinguisher, but that doesnt even sound right.. ill have to keep thinking about that.

[Susan Delgado]

No, that's not it, but good guess smilies/smile.gif

[Samwise]

Susan, is it a tea kettle?
He turned and saw that Sam was now standing beside him, looking round with a puzzled expresson, and rubbing his eyes as if he was not sure that he ws awake.
"It's sunlight and bright day, right enough." he said, I thought that Elves were all for moon and stars: but this is more elvish than I ever heard tell of. I feel as if I was inside a song, if you take my meaning. "

[Samwise]

Another simple one from Samwise:

I have a head, but no brain
generally, I have a smile on my face, but it dosen't necesarily mean that I'm happy.
I can have arms, but they are useless
With the rising of the sun, my life can end.
"You don't need to tell me that!" said Sam. "I came without any, and I've been worried ever since. But I was wondering what these were made of, knowing a bit about rope-making: it's in the family as you might say. "

[Kalimac]

Nuranar, I was going to guess an idol but Susan beat me to it. How about a mummy?

Samwise, is yours a snowman?

How about this one? It's pretty basic.

Too much of me will kill
As will too little of me
In summer I am prayed for
But cursed if too oft I come.
What am I?

[Samwise]

Yes, Kalimac, it is. smilies/wink.gif
"I have indeed!" said Sam. "And I reckon there's Elves and there's Elves. They're all Elvish enough, but they're not all the same. Now these folk aren't wanderers or homeless, and seem a bit nearer to the likes of us: they seem to belong here, more even than Hobbits do in the Shire. Whether they've made the land, or the land's made them, it's hard to say, if you take my meaning."

[Nuranar]

Susan and Kalimac, you are both correct: It is an idol. Here is the quote in its entirety:

Why do the nations say,
"Where is their God?"
Our God is in heaven;
he does whatever pleases him.
But their idols are silver and gold,
made by the hands of men.
They have mouths, but cannot speak,
eyes, but they cannot see;
they have ears, but cannot hear,
noses, but they cannot smell;
they have hands, but cannot feel,
feet, but they cannot walk;
nor can they utter a sound with their throats.
Those who make them will be like them,
and so will all who trust in them.
--Psalm 115:2-8 NIV

I'm so glad for the responses I got! I was afraid it was kind of a weird thing to post.

Kalimac, is yours rain?

[Kalimac]

You got it, Nuranar smilies/smile.gif. Yours was really good [Kalimac smacks self on head] should have recognized that from the Psalms, eh? Actually the only Biblical phrase that came to mind on reading that was "Why do the Heathen rage?" but it was close enough, I guess. Susan, you're up for a riddle smilies/smile.gif.

[Belegfanaion]

I believe that Kalimaks is is Rain or Water, Sarah's last one is a teakettle, and Nurambar is correct on mine, it's a book. (EZ One, eh?)

[Kalimac]

You got it, Nuranar smilies/smile.gif. Yours was really good [Kalimac smacks self on head] should have recognized that from the Psalms, eh? Actually the only Biblical phrase that came to mind on reading that was "Why do the Heathen rage?" but it was close enough, I guess. Susan, you're up for a riddle smilies/smile.gif.

[Susan Delgado]

Sam and Beleg, you're half right. What is the teakettle doing? smilies/smile.gif

Ok, here's one

What is dressed when night falls and undressed when day breaks?

[Amanruthiel]

Susan

Is you last one a bed?

A xx smilies/biggrin.gif

[Susan Delgado]

Nope, that's not it.

[Susan Delgado]

Looking back over the list, I noticed two that were never answered (unless I just missed them smilies/smile.gif) I looked back through the thread, but couldn't find them to see if I had, in fact, missed the answers (I remember Stephanos and Samwise being the posters, respectively, but I could be wrong) Anyhoo, here they are. If they were answered, let me know, and if not, we have two more to guess (again) at if the posters are still watching this thread.


What goes through the door without pinching itself,
Sits on the stove without burning itself,
Sits on the table and is not ashamed


Though precious it looks, a shiny stone,
It was not born in the earth.
It speaks all day, but no sound is heard,
And no matter how far it goes,
It will always end up in the same place.

[Bragolandune]

susan, i dont know about the second one but the answer to the first one was the sun.

[Nuranar]

Susan, I don't remember the first one, but the answer to the second is a goldfish.

Bragolandune, I think our memories compliment each other rather well!

[Susan Delgado]

Thank you both very much smilies/biggrin.gif

[Samwise]

Sam and Beleg, you're half right. What is the teakettle doing?
Boiling over?
Sam sat tapping the hilt of his sword as if he were counting on his fingers. "It's very strange," he murmured. "The moon's the same in the Shire and in Wilderland, or it ought to be. But either it's out of it's running or I'm all wrong in my reckoning. "

[Susan Delgado]

Exactly smilies/smile.gif
One of my favorite quotes from The Hobbit

[Samwise]

Yay! LOL!!
"Well, I can remember three nights there for certain, but I would take my oath it was never a whole month. Anyone would think time did not count in there! "
~Sam Gamgee

[Susan Delgado]

smilies/biggrin.gif
(BTW, Sam, was the second riddle I asked about up there yours? the one where the answer is "a fish"? I'm just trying to confirm my memory)

I was going to post another, but then I looked in my book and realised I still have one out there...
What is dressed when night falls and undressed when day breaks?

[ April 17, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ]

[Samwise]

The "Goldfish" one? No, that's Mr. Greenbow's.
It was Sam who had insisted on choosing him, declaring that Bill (as he called him) would pine if he did not come.
"That animal can nearly talk," he said, "and would talk, if he stayed here much longer. He gave me a look as plain as Mr. Pippin could speak it: if you don't let me go with you, Sam, I'll follow on my own. "

[Samwise]

What is dressed night falls and undressed when day breaks?
---------------------------------------------
Mm...the sky?
Sam eased the pack on his shoulders, and went over anxiously in his mind all the things which were stowed in it: his chief treasure, his cooking gear; and the little box of salt that he always carried and refilled when he could; woolen hose; linen; various small belongings of his master's that Frodo had forgotten and Sam had stowed to bring them all out in triumph when they were called for. He went through them all.

[Samwise]

Yet another from Samwise:
---------------------------------------------
I can be hot, or I can be cold
I can be held in the hand either way.
Sometimes liquid stays in me, sometimes it comes out.
What am I?
"Bill, my lad, you ought'nt to have took up with us. You could have stayed here and et the best hay till the new grass comes. "
~Sam Gamgee

[Susan Delgado]

The "Goldfish" one? No, that's Mr. Greenbow's.

Oh. Well, I never said my memory is perfect. smilies/wink.gif

The answer to mine is not the sky.

[Susan Delgado]

Is it a coffee mug?

[Samwise]

LOL, Susan! Exactly! (Maybe you were thinking along the same lines I was last night....)
Not the sky, hm? Oy...it's too early in the morning to think.... smilies/tongue.gif
"But I'm beginning to think it's time we got sight of that Fiery Mountain, and saw the end of the Road, so to speak. I thought at first this here Redhorn, or whatever its name is, might be it, till Gimli spoke his peice. "
~Sam Gamgee

[Lady_Báin]

could some on eexplain the fish riddle for me? smilies/smile.gif Susan is yours the sun or moon?

[Susan Delgado]

Yay! smilies/biggrin.gif

This is the "fish" riddle, Lady_Bain.
Though precious it looks, a shiny stone,
It was not born in the earth.
It speaks all day, but no sound is heard,
And no matter how far it goes,
It will always end up in the same place.
Several pages ago, someone asked this one. I found it in my book and didn't have a corresponding answer for it, so I posted it asking for the answer. I then asked Sam if she was the one who posted it originally, but she told me it wasn't her's, but Greenbow's. Hope this helps! smilies/smile.gif

[ April 17, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ]

[Susan Delgado]

Oh, ya, it isn't the sun or the moon. Ya'll are on the wrong track. smilies/smile.gif

[Lady_Báin]

smilies/rolleyes.gif okay at the risk of sounding really stupid I'm going to ask if someone can take me through the fish riddle step by step cause honestly i don't get it at all smilies/confused.gif sorry but this is just going to stay at the back of my mind til I get it. I hate not understanding things smilies/smile.gif

[Susan Delgado]

Oh, I didn't know that was what you meant

Though precious it looks, a shiny stone,
(Its scales are shiny)
It was not born in the earth.
(It was born in water)
It speaks all day, but no sound is heard,
(It opens and closes its mouth all the time)
And no matter how far it goes,
It will always end up in the same place.
(It can never leave its bowl or tank)

Is this better? smilies/smile.gif

[ April 17, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ]

[Lady_Báin]

ahhhhh thats better thank you smilies/biggrin.gif now i can rest easier smilies/smile.gif

[Bragolandune]

Susan, all i can think of with your riddle is a pillow...thats really hard

[anyamiex]

i have one i dont know if this has been done already but i guess not
What animal is that which in the morning goes on four feet, at noon on two, and in the evening upon three?
slightly odd i know but see if you can get it


it is well known that stones can think as the whole of electronics is based of the fact T. Pratchett, Equal Rites

[Belin]

Pillows should not be hard, though..... Sorry, just playing. smilies/wink.gif couldn't resist.

--Belin Ibaimendi

[Susan Delgado]

Very funny, Belin. She's only joking around cause she knows the answer.... smilies/rolleyes.gif and, no, sadly, it is not a pillow smilies/smile.gif

[Bragolandune]

well since pillow was wrong im gonna guess again...my boyfriend keeps telling me its a birdcage, so thats my guess.

[Susan Delgado]

No, it's not a birdcage either

[Bragolandune]

a cloud?

[Susan Delgado]

No....you're on the wrong track

[Raefindel]

What animal is that which in the morning goes on four feet, at noon on two, and in the evening upon three?

A Man. When he's born, he crawls- 4 legs
When he grows, he walks on two
When he's old he uses a cane-3legs.

[Nuranar]

Anyamiex, yours is man, who when young crawls on all fours, walks on two during the prime of his life, and uses a cane when he is old.

Susan, is yours a window?

[Nuranar]

Way to go, Rae! Beat me by sixty seconds!

[Susan Delgado]

No, it is not a window. Think organic...

[Raefindel]

Why don't you take my turn Nuranar, I can't think of a riddle to save my soul.

What's black and white and red all over?

[Firladion Greenbow]

What is dressed when night falls and undressed when day breaks?

Would I be right in saying A FIRE, Susan of Hambry?

[Bragolandune]

your eyes?

[Firladion Greenbow]

Oh yes, I almost forgot,

What is light as a feather, but no-one can hold it for long?

F.G.

[Susan Delgado]

Why, your breath, Mr. Greenbow smilies/smile.gif

and, yes "a fire" will do smilies/smile.gif

I pass before the sun yet make no shadow. What am I?

[Bragolandune]

i dont get it... how is that a fire? can you explain it?

[Susan Delgado]

Surely
At night, one builds up sticks and other pieces of wood to build the fire. In the morning, the wood is all burned away, leaving nothing in its place but ash. It's simply a different use of the word "dressed" Substitute "built" and it'll work too.

I also would have accepted "a rose"(or other flower) because at night it closes over its delicate inner parts and in the morning opens again, exposing itself to the sunlight.

[Lady_Báin]

Black white and read all over? hmmmmm... maybe this is a ratorical(spl?) riddle but i am gonna bite a newspapper?

[Lady_Báin]

or maybe a bloody zebra eeeeewwwwwwwwwww!!!! smilies/eek.gif (not the English bloody smilies/biggrin.gif)

[ April 18, 2002: Message edited by: Lady_Báin ]

[Lady_Báin]

susan is yours a star or stars?

[Susan Delgado]

Nay, that be not it, Milady smilies/smile.gif

[Firladion Greenbow]

To Susan, Thankee-sai, you speak true, the answer is indeed Breath.

as for
I pass before the sun yet make no shadow. What am I?

I will not answer this just yet, but instead will give another.

Cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt.
It lies behind the stars and beneath the hills.
Ends life and kills laughter.

What is it?

And NO Susan, your not answering it!
smilies/tongue.gif

F.G.

[ April 18, 2002: Message edited by: Firladion Greenbow ]

[Lindolirian]

"Easy! Dark, I suppose."
in the words of Mr. Bilbo Baggins himself

[Firladion Greenbow]

That is correct Lindolirian, the dark it is.

With no wings, I fly.
With no eyes, I see.
With no arms, I climb.
More frightening than any beast, stronger than any foe.
I am cunning, ruthless, and tall; in the end, I rule all.

What am I?

F.G.

[Aragorn Husband of Arwen]

I've got another riddle!

You have seen me, and heard me.
But yet you have no seen me.
I come from an unknown place,
and go to an unknown place.

What am I? smilies/smile.gif

[Susan Delgado]

Is it wind?

[Samwise]

Hm.....
Sam's ?th Riddle
---------------------------------------------
I can reach out and grab you
yet, I have no hands.
Often I can hurt a person,
but people come in my presence
without much fear, anyway.
What am I?
---------------------------------------------
"What about the elves?" said Sam, too excited. "Can't we go and see them? "

[Susan Delgado]

Sam, is it love?

Don't forget mine, also

I pass before the sun yet make no shadow. What am I?

[Tigerlily Gamgee]

Susan, is the answer either darkness, the night or twilight?

[Susan Delgado]

Sorry, it's none of those.

[Samwise]

No, Susan, not love--
As for: "I pass before the sun..."
is it a cloud?
"So my plan is all spoilt!" said Frodo. "It is no good trying to escape you. But I'm glad, Sam. It is plain that we were meant to go together. "

[Kalimac]

Hello, everyone! This thread has certainly grown since last time I was here...

Susan - this is probably out of left field but is the answer a witch? (If I remember correctly witches weren't supposed to be able to cast shadows. Or be photographed, for that matter).

Samwise - Is yours illness? It certainly grabs you quickly, anyway...

[Raefindel]

Hi, Kalimac! good to see you.

Susan, I'm stumped. That's a good riddle.

I have nothing pertinent to add, neither guesses nor further riddles. I think I'm riddles out.

[ April 20, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ]

[Susan Delgado]

No, it is neither a witch nor a cloud (clouds leave shadows...)

Was I on the right track by naming an emotion?

[Aragorn Husband of Arwen]

Susan Delgado - Yes. smilies/smile.gif

[Susan Delgado]

Yay! Got any more? smilies/smile.gif

[ April 20, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ]

[Samwise]

Was I on the right track by naming an emotion?
No--it's an actual thing.
Sam had a natural mistrust of the inhabitants of other parts of the Shire; and also he was not disposed to be quick friends with anyone who had beaten his master, however long ago.

[Samwise]

Samwise - Is yours illness? It certainly grabs you quickly, anyway...

Blecch...they certainly do--though I've said "take that" to mine with some cold medicine....
Sorry, nope, not an illness.
LOTR (Movie) Moment (IV) (Moria)
Orcs are everywhere
Samwise whacks one with a pot
gets..."the hang of this!" smilies/smile.gif

Copyright 2002 S. Uffelman

[Firladion Greenbow]

As no-one answered, I thought I'd put in to you again.

With no wings, I fly.
With no eyes, I see.
With no arms, I climb.
More frightening than any beast, stronger than any foe.
I am cunning, ruthless, and tall; in the end, I rule all.

What am I?


A.Y.S.
F.G.

[Tigerlily Gamgee]

Actually, that same riddle and answer is posted under "Starbreeze's Challenge". We weren't neglecting you smilies/frown.gif

[Samwise]

Hm. That may be so, but I still don't know the answer.
"I can take you to them, sir," said Sam. "It's a big house, this, and very peculiar. Always a bit more to discover, and no knowing what you'll find round a courner. And Elves, sir! Elves here and Elves there! "

[Tigerlily Gamgee]

According to the other thread... the answer is imagination.

[Samwise]

With no wings, I fly.
With no eyes, I see.
With no arms, I climb.
More frightening than any beast, stronger than any foe.
I am cunning, ruthless, and tall; in the end, I rule all
The answer to THIS!?!? Eh--I didn't think that was it. smilies/frown.gif
Movie Moment
*Frodo and Sam walking across a feild*
*Sam stops*
*Frodo turns* "Sam, what's the matter? "
*Sam* "If I take another step, I'll be farther from home than I've ever been."