One Thing in Common

[the real findorfin]

Earwen
Galadhon
Saeros
Denethor
Thingol

Not too hard really!

[Lindolirian]

They were all Telerin Elves.

[the real findorfin]

Well, yeh, told you it was easy.

[Lindolirian]

In this one, I'll tell you what they said, then you have to figure out who they are and what they have in common... Good luck!

"Further counsel I cannot give, nor may I go further on your road."

"Haha, he comes too late!"

"There's something mighty queer behind this."

[Lindolirian]

I feel like I'm always the one who kills the good threads with really hard questions. But we did have a great spell of easy ones back there. C'mon are we getting lazy? Think!

Hint:
the first quote is from the Sil.
the second quote is from the Lay of Leithan.
the third quote is from FotR.

Cool?

[Bruce MacCulloch]

1. Huan
2. The raven that mocked Beren
3. The fox that passed Frodo & co in the wood in the Shire

- They are all animals that spoke.

[Lindolirian]

Of course, Mr. MacCulloch.

[Bruce MacCulloch]

Gandalf
Gimli
Bilbo

(Hint - it has nothing to do with the fact that Bilbo has no beard.) smilies/tongue.gif

[akhtene]

2 versions:
-each of them was named 'elf-friend';
-they sailed to the West.
Now, are both wrong? smilies/frown.gif

[Bruce MacCulloch]

I'll take the second answer.
Your turn.

[akhtene]

Well, try this list:

Elenwe
Arvedui
Helm (of Rohan)

[Lindolirian]

They all died as a result of extreme cold.

[akhtene]

Right you are.

And so will I quite soon... smilies/frown.gif It's -32 Centigrade outside.

[Lindolirian]

Isildur
Eorl
Meneldil
Hallas

[hobbitlass]

All their fathers died in war.

[ January 03, 2003: Message edited by: hobbitlass ]

[Lindolirian]

Incorrect. Try again!

[akhtene]

Gosh, can't find ANYTHING on Hallas! Any hint, pleeeeese!

[Lindolirian]

Hrm... I saw in the Very Easy Trivia thread that you have not read UT. It is in there. I'll give you a hint though... Hallas was the son of Cirion. That probably won't give you much unless you know what Cirion did... Sorry, I don't want to give away too much.

[Russandol]

They all kept the secret of the location of Elendil's tomb on Amon Anwar.

[Lindolirian]

Of course, Russandol!

[Russandol]

Too easy but here goes :-

Tar-Aldarion of Numenor
Haldir of Lorien
Gamling of Rohan
Gandalf The Grey

[Lindolirian]

They all know another language that others of their race don't know.

[Lindolirian]

Well Russandol, it's only been two days, but the Quiz Room is a bit more active than it was in the days of Mat_Heathertoes. Friendly reminder to keep up on your threads!

[Russandol]

Yes, too easy. They've all demonstrated their translation abilities.

[Lindolirian]

Ecthelion
Faramir
Denethor
Firiel
Boromir
Turin

[ January 20, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

[Russandol]

I'm not sure which of the Boromirs, Denethors, Turins or Ecthelions you mean.

[Lindolirian]

Well, I would give you a hint, but you just gave it to yourself... *Mysterious laughter* smilies/biggrin.gif

[Pallando B.C]

They all have a name which someone else has also.

e.g
Denethor -> Son of Lenwë
Denethor -> Father of Boromir and Faramir.

[Ultimatejoe]

Damn, I actually knew that one too.

[Russandol]

curses!!!

[Lindolirian]

Ah, Russandol, you were so close, but Pallando has it.

[Pallando B.C]

Unlucky Russandol. smilies/smile.gif

Eärendil
Dior
Eldarion
Lúthien

[Ultimatejoe]

They were all of mixed lineage.

Dior=Man and Elf
Luthien=Elf and Maia
Eldarion=Man and hElf
Earendil=Man and Elf

[Pallando B.C]

Correct, Ultimatejoe. Your Turn.

[Ultimatejoe]

Al-Pharazon
Earnur
Helm
Ondoher

[Lindolirian]

They were all the last king or ruler of their line.

[Ultimatejoe]

Yep

[Lindolirian]

Khamul
Galadriel
Gorthaur
Thrain

[Ultimatejoe]

Which Thrain?

[Russandol]

They have all been to Dol Goldur at one time or another.

[Ultimatejoe]

It depends on which Thrain though. Only one went to Dol Goldur.

[Lindolirian]

Russandol is right. Sorry, I didn't specify which Thrain.

[Russandol]

Try these out:

King Eärnur
Théoden King
Morwen Eledhwen
Boromir of the Fellowship

[Lyra Greenleaf]

were there exact ends all unknown?

Edit: Oh , i just realised we know what happened to Theoden. Sorry

[ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Lyra Greenleaf ]

[Lyra Greenleaf]

did they all have their minds overthrown by something?
(eg grief/the ring/Grima?)

[Russandol]

Sorry, not those!

[Lindolirian]

A hint perhaps, Russandol?

[Tar-Palantir]

I don't know. Just wasted an hour dwelling on it though... smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Manardariel]

They were all the last of their line?

[Ultimatejoe]

Techinically Faramir would have been the last of the Line of Stewards, and he survived!

[Tar-Palantir]

I just saw the dates, the last question is 2 weeks old! Even though I'd still like to know the answer to it, we should move on. Does someone want to post a new one up? If not I'll do one later. smilies/smile.gif

[ February 12, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

[Tar-Palantir]

Here is a fresh one:

Sam
Frodo
Aragorn

good luck.

[Lindolirian]

Aragorn is the only one who did not go to the Grey Havens. He did not possess the Ring at any time either.

[Ultimatejoe]

This is the one thing in common thread. You're looking for "odd man out"

They all encountered the "eye" of Sauron?

[Lindolirian]

Whoops. Duh. smilies/wink.gif

[Tar-Palantir]

Nope. I'll give a little hint.

It happened to them in this order:

Aragorn
Sam
Frodo

smilies/smile.gif

[Tar-Palantir]

A bump and a hint:

Something happened to each of the three, for Aragorn and Sam is quickly passed, but for Frodo it lasted the rest of his days.

What do they have in common?

Aragorn
Sam
Frodo

[elven maiden Earwen]

dang cant think of it but it has to do with Aragorn-plantir
Sam-ring
Frodo-ring
exprincing pain or grief or something like that

[ February 16, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

[Rochelle]

Was it their experience with the wraiths on Amon Sûl?

[Tar-Palantir]

No. One more (big!) hint:

it was an injury they all suffered, but not from a weapon.

[elven maiden Earwen]

stress, grief, weary older by the burrden of the ring or looking into the plantir

[The Saucepan Man]

They were all bitten by Smeagol/Gollum?

[Tar-Palantir]

Ding, ding, ding! we have a winner. Good job The Saucepan Man - your turn.

[ February 18, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Thank you, Tar-Palantir. smilies/smile.gif

More difficult than you think trying to come up with one, isn't it? Oh well, let's try this one:

Gandalf the White
Hamfast Gamgee
Eowyn

[Pallando B.C]

Did they all account a Nazgûl?

[The Saucepan Man]

Pallando BC, what do you mean by "account"?

[Pallando B.C]

Speaking.

[The Saucepan Man]

Yup, that's it. They all conversed with a Nazgul. looks like its your turn ...

[Pallando B.C]

Righty-O

• Eönwë
• Gandalf
• Gilthoniel
• Melkor

[Lindolirian]

They are all related to Manwë. Gilthoniel is Varda, his wife. Éonwë was also known as Fionwë, son of Manwë. Melkor is his brother. And Gandalf, or Ólorin is a Maia in his service.

[Pallando B.C]

Yes, Quite East for you, Lindolirian

[Lindolirian]

Mablung
Daeron
Draugluin
Saeros


And no, the answer has NOTHING to do with Doriath.

[ February 23, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

[elven maiden Earwen]

help!!cant think of anything but there all dead?????? i need a hint please!!!

[Lindolirian]

If you knew my interests *hint hint* you would probably guess it quite easily.

[Pallando B.C]

By your interests, do you mean:

Eating Food, reading LotR, having fun

I don't know what that gives me. The all liked meats of some sort. Or some sort of specific food?

[Lindolirian]

I'll give it to ya. They were all decribed eating in the Silmarillion. Hey, I was hungry at the time!

[Tar-Palantir]

oh my, that was a odd one wasn't it? smilies/smile.gif

[Pallando B.C]

Yes it was, lucky I got it!

Dior
Frodo
Aragorn
Christopher Tolkien

[Annunfuiniel]

They all inherited something "great" from their relatives?
Dior: the Silmaril
Frodo: The Ring (+Bag-End and all)
Aragorn: shards of Narsil (and the ring of Barahir)
Christopher Tolkien: the scripts of his father!

[Pallando B.C]

Your on the right path.

[The Saucepan Man]

They are all described as "heirs":

Dior - Thingol's heir

Frodo - Bilbo's heir (to Bag End)

Aragorn - Isildur's heir

Christopher Tolkien - don't know for sure, but presumably heir to his father's works.

[Pallando B.C]

That's the word I was looking for.

[The Saucepan Man]

Righty-ho. Here's my offering:

Manwe Sulimo
Tom Bombadil
Kili

[Lindolirian]

They were all known for their good vision.

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope, that's not what I'm looking for.

Fili and Thorin could be added to the list, and there are two others that I could add, but they would give it away.

[Durelin]

All three wore blue!

Manwe - clothing and sceptre (and eyes)

Tom - a blue feather in his hat and I believe his coat was also blue

Kili - his cloak and hood (the same with Thorin and Fili I think)

That's kinda far fetched, but you never know. smilies/biggrin.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Spot on Durelin. The other two would, of course, have been Alatar and Pallando.

Not so far-fetched after all. smilies/wink.gif

Your go.

[Durelin]

Yay! Here's an easy one (I think):

Azog
Vardamir
Deor

[The Saucepan Man]

Were they all killed by Dwarves? Azog and Dior were, but I don't know about Vardamir.

[Tar-Palantir]

It's Deor not Dior, and Deor was not killed by a dwarf. So far I'm stumped...

[The Saucepan Man]

Oh, I'd not come across Deor before ...

Are they all kings?

Azog was a goblin-king. Vardamir was a king of Numenor. Deor was a king of Rohan.

[Durelin]

I'm tempted to count that wrong since you sounded so unsure, Saucepan Man! smilies/biggrin.gif Yes, they were all kings. Told you it was easy! smilies/biggrin.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Hey, I was just asking politely like my Mummy taught me. smilies/biggrin.gif

How about this one:

Bilbo Baggins
Eomer
Beren
Aragorn

[elven maiden Earwen]

THEONLY THING I CAN THINK OPF IS THEY ALL DIED SO CAN I HAVE a clue.

[The Saucepan Man]

THEONLY THING I CAN THINK OPF IS THEY ALL DIED SO CAN I HAVE a clue

Well, it's not to do with their deaths, but ...

[ March 05, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Lindolirian]

Their parents died early or were killed.

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope, not their parents' deaths either ...

[elven maiden Earwen]

they were all mortal??

[The Saucepan Man]

Well, that's true, but it's not what I'm looking for.

The answer relates to the deaths of other characters ...

[Tinuviel87]

I have no idea... i have been trying to figure this out for the past ten minutes maybe they were all related to someone who died? i don't even know what im talking about... smilies/frown.gif

[Tar-Palantir]

They all were near/held/heard the last words of someone who died?

Beren - Finrod
Aragorn - Boromir
Eomer - Theoden
Bilbo Baggins - Thorin Oakenshield

[The Saucepan Man]

Tar-Palantir, you are correct. Well done. smilies/smile.gif

They did indeed all receive the last words of those that you have identified.

Your turn ...

[Tar-Palantir]

Thanks, that was a good one. Tough, but good.

Mithrandir
Nienor
Saeros
Pippin

[gilraën]

Did they all fall?
Gandalf/Mithrandir fell from the bridge
Nienor threw herself over when she discovered she had married her brother
Saeros fell after fighting with Turin
but I'm not sure about Pippin

[Rochelle]

Hmm...perhaps a clue?

[Tar-Palantir]

Ok I'll give a clue.

Mithrandir returned this way
Nienor found Turin this way
Saeros was forced to be this way
Pippin took a suggestion to be this way

smilies/smile.gif
Hopefully that will rip the cloak off this question for you.

[The Saucepan Man]

I hestitate to give this answer, but it seems to fit.

Did they all get naked? smilies/rolleyes.gif

I think that when Gandalf first returned as the White he was unclothed.

Following her brainwashing by Glaurung, Nienor ran naked through the Forest of Brethil and was found by Turin lying upon the mound of Haudh-en-Elleth.

Saeros was forced by Turin to ran naked while he pursued him.

Not to sure about Pippin, but presumably he disrobed for his bath in the house at Crickhollow.

[Sapphire_Flame]

They were all naked.

Naked, Gandalf returned as the White.

Nienor was found naked by Turin.

Saeros was forced by Turin to run naked.

Pippin took that particular suggestion after the hobbits were rescued from the Barrow-Wight by Tom Bombadil.

[Tar-Palantir]

Well, TheSaucepanMan got it first. I suppose you can count the bath but I was thinking of the Barrow-Wight incident. Incidentally all of the Hobbits got naked (outside of the bath) at some point in LotR.

you said "Naked"...hehehe smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lomadia]

What do the following have in common:

Elrond
Galadriel
Celebrian
Earendil

(It's not that Elrond is Earendil's son, Celebrian is Galadriel's daughter, and Elrond and Celebrian are married)

[Tar-Palantir]

It's not your turn Lamadia, please read the quiz room rules (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000386) first. You need to answer a question correctly before you get to ask one.

have fun!

[The Saucepan Man]

Thank you, Tar-P. smilies/smile.gif Well, without further ado, what do the following have in common?

Aragorn
Aredhel
Bilbo
Frodo
Gandalf
Gollum
Melian
Pippin
Rian
Sam

Tricksy smilies/wink.gif

[Annunfuiniel]

They all left their homes at some point for a long "journey", voluntarily or out of necessity, some for longer period than others and some never returned. But is that the right answer?? You tell me! smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope, that's not it.

[The Saucepan Man]

*bump*

Any takers?

[Lalaith]

My word, that *is* tricksy. Is it anything to do with captivity?

[Lalaith]

Oh, wait. Is it wood-elves?

[Annunfuiniel]

They all felt deep love/desire for someone/something (and it let them to a trouble of some sort)?
If that's not the right answer, and I'm preeetty sure it isn't, then could we have a small hint please? smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

No, no and no! smilies/wink.gif

Think less about what they do in the books and more about where they appear in the books. smilies/tongue.gif

[Gil-Galad]

they all appear first use less but then there honuored among most

(Gandlaf, old man but then great wizard
Sam hobbit gardener but then warrior among Men)

[The Saucepan Man]

No, I'm afraid not.

Another hint: They all open something, some of them more than once ...

[Lalaith]

*emerges hot and flustered from library rummage*
Ok. Their names all open book chapters.

[The Saucepan Man]

Hurrah! You are correct, Lalaith. Well done. smilies/smile.gif

In fact, those are all of the characters whose names begin chapters in TH, LotR and the Silm (my own library rummaging was done when I first set the question smilies/wink.gif ).

Over to you ...

[Lalaith]

Strewth. Setting these questions is a lot harder than answering them. I'll be with you again shortly.

[Lalaith]

Ok. All you clever people are going to think this is just easy-peasy.

Beren
Aldarion
Bilbo
Arwen
Galadriel

[Tar-Palantir]

They are all thieves:

Beren - stole a silmaril
Aldarion - stole the spirit from his wife
Bilbo - stole the Arkenstone
Arwen & Galadriel - stole my heart... smilies/smile.gif

[Lalaith]

Ah, that's cute. But sadly not the right answer.
Although you're quite close, in some ways...

[Lyra Greenleaf]

did they all choose different names or something? i have to say i'm not sure bilbo ever did!

[Lalaith]

No, that's not right.
Like I said, Tar Palantir was kind of close.

[Lalaith]

*bump*
Would y'all like more clues?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

That'd be good

[Lalaith]

Well, Tar Palantir was closest with Bilbo and Beren.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Beren - saw a silmaril
Bilbo - saw the Arkenstone
Arwen & Galadriel - saw elasar???????? okay im done

[Lyra Greenleaf]

are they all associated with a jewel, Bilbo with the Arkenstone, beren with the Silmaril, Arwen with the Evenstar, Galadriel with Nenya, and Aldarion with...something?

[Lalaith]

Lyra, you're really close.
They're not just associated with the jewel, they did something with it...and Galadriel's isn't Nenya...

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

They gave away a jewel? Bilbo gave the arkenstone to the wood-elves and men (although it was eventually returned and buried with Thorin), Beren gave the silmaril to Thingol in exchange for Luthien's hand, Arwen gave the white stone to Frodo, Galadriel gave the Elessar to Aragorn... I can't find Aldarion's though smilies/frown.gif

-Sophia

[Lalaith]

yay! Sophia's got it.
Aldarion gave Erendis a jewel, a diamond to wear on her brow, before he married her.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yay! smilies/biggrin.gif It'll take me a few minutes to think of a good one, but I'll be back with you pretty quick.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Ok, this should be sufficiently difficult.. although you guys are pretty good... here goes.

Ingwe
Glaurung
Telperion
Finwe
Durin
Fangorn (the ent)

-Sophia

[elven maiden Earwen]

they all lived in the first age??

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

they did... but I was looking for something a little different.

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Are they all the sort of fathers of a race: Durin was one of the seven fathers of the dwarves, Fangorn one of the threee chief ents, Glaurung was father of dragons, telperion was the elder of the trees of Valinor, Ingwe and Finwe were two of the first three leaders of the elves? Or are they known as the "oldest"?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Lyra, you're super close... smilies/smile.gif Finwe's a bit of a stretch to get his link...

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I don't know if this clue will help, but here goes...
Ingwe
Glaurung
Telperion
Finwe
Durin
Fangorn (the ent)
and not Feanor (according to Mandos)

elven maiden Earwen had the key word...

-Sophia

[Lalaith]

They were all first? Finwe was the first to be slain in Aman, was he not?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Bingo!

Finwe was the first slain in Aman
Ingwe was the first high king of the elves (his name also means 'first one')
Glaurung was the first of the dragons
Durin the first dwarf-father to awake
Telperion was the first tree to flower
Fangorn must have been the first of the ents if he was eldest... smilies/smile.gif

Continue, Lalaith smilies/biggrin.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Lalaith? Are you about?

[Lalaith]

So sorry! I went away for a few days and forgot I'd left an answer for this...anyway give me til tomorrow and I'll come up with something.

[Lalaith]

Here we go:
Gildor
Frodo
Galadriel
Legolas
Sam

This is a bit hard maybe so I'll give you two clues.
The answer is to be found within the text of Lord of the Rings. And there are others who also do this but they are not named specifically.

[alaklondewen]

They all sailed into the West?

[Lalaith]

Well you're right in that they did all do that, but so did many others who are named...that's not what I had in mind.
But you're kind of lukewarm, I'd say.

[elven maiden Earwen]

They've all been to Rivendell.

[Lalaith]

No, that's not it, either.
It's something they all do if you look at the text of LotR. Something no other named character does.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

They speak the name of Elbereth? Although, I think Arwen does too...

Hmm... drat, Bilbo does... nevermind

Sophia

[ April 16, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

[Lalaith]

Sophia, in fact you're right! The actual answer is that they all *call* to Elbereth.
(Both Aragorn and Bilbo mention her, but they don't call to her. The song calling to Elbereth is sung in Rivendell, and by Gildor's people, but the singer isn't named.)

Well done, your go...

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Easy one-

Ragnor
Neithan
Forweg
Androg

Sophia

[elven maiden Earwen]

they've all been outlaws

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

exactly smilies/smile.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

Beren
Turin
Aragorn
Eomer

[Lindolirian]

All of their fathers were killed, or in Turin's case, imprisoned while the he was still young. In other words, they were all fatherless.

[ April 23, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

There were (at least) two of all of them, except Eomer.

Aragorn I was a Chieftain of the North, Aragorn Elessar was King of Gondor/Arnor.

Beren Erchamion was wedded to Luthien, Beren of Gondor was the steward who let Saruman have Isengard.

Turin Turambar was tragic, Turins I&II were stewards in Gondor.

Eomer was just Eomer Eadig, King of Rohan.

Sophia

AAAH DRAT! please disregard this post, I got one thing in common confused with odd man out.

[ May 02, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

[elven maiden Earwen]

Its ok

Hint:
Beren
Turin
Aragorn
Eomer
Turgon

[elven maiden Earwen]

any one?? Its quite easy but most people will skip that fact that it happens to them

[Lindolirian]

Umm this is totally out of no where, but...
They had a sword or knife that had a name?

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope. It's something they all did.

[Estanesse]

They all came to aid a friend or people who were friendly towards them

Beren Attacked the dwarfs because they killed Thingol and to (I think) prevent them from doing more damage in Doriath;
Turin Killed Glaurung and so prevent him from destroying Brethil;
Aragorn came to the aid of Minas Tirith;
Eomer came to the aid of Minas Tirith;
Turgon Came in what looked as a decisive moment to the aid of Finrod and co;

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

hint:
Beren
Turin
Aragorn
Eomer
Turgon
Merry
Pippen

[Lindolirian]

Their wives died?

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

[Estanesse]

All went on a journey with one other person

Beren with Luthien
Aragorn with Gandalf
Turgon with Finrod
Turin with Beleg
Merry with Pippen
Eormer with?? Don’t know, but he was a likeable person so I think he must had some friends who would enjoy camping with him smilies/rolleyes.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

[Lalaith]

Has it got something to do with them all having killed someone or something? Orcs, perhaps?

[Earendil Halfelven]

Is it that they are all war veterans?

Beren-fought with the dwarves at Sarn Athrad.
Turin-he fought with a bunch of orcs I'm guessing.
Aragorn-Helm's Deep, Minas Tirith, in front of the black gate(would that be 2nd Battle of Dagorlad?)
Eomer-same as Aragorn.
Turgon-died at the battle at Gondolin.
Merry-2nd battle of Dagorlad with Aragorn
Pippen-Minas Tirith

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope and no smilies/biggrin.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Lawks! All I can think of is that they all lived in ME and they all fought with Orcs.

I think that it may be time for another hint ... smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

*shakes head in absolute and utter confusion* I'm with Saucepan...

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope
hint:
Beren
Turin
Aragorn
Eomer
Turgon
Merry
Pippen
Elros
Luthien
Amroth

[Lalaith]

*flounders helplessly*
Did they all go swimming?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

They all had hereditary authority over people?
Beren- would have been the leader of Barahir's people if any had been left
Turin- would have been Lord of Dor-Lomin
Aragorn- was King of Gondor and Arnor
Eomer- was King of Rohan
Turgon- was King of Gondolin and a prince of the Noldoli
Merry- was Master of Buckland
Pippin- was Thain of the Shire
Elros- was King of Numenor
Luthien- was the daughter of Thingol and barring exceptional circumstances (which happened) she probably should have inherited his kingdom... (ooh, it's a stretch...)
Amroth- was Lord of Lorien

*grimaces* that's messy. Best I can do.

Sophia

[Estanesse]

Maybe swimming is the answer or water.
Beren went over the sea when he died
Turin brother of Nienor who jumped in the water and died.
Aragorn came to the rescue with his ships
Eomer married a princes of dol amroth (dol amroth lay by the sea and they had a crest with a silver swan on it)
Turgon was ordered by Ulmo to make a armor and so
Merry and Pippen had a Ent drink and with made them grow
Elros went to Numenor over the sea by ship
Luthien came to reclaim Beren in Valinor so she could marry him
Amroth did go for a swim and was never seen again.

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope. This is fun. Actually Lindolirian was very close to the answer at one point. So keep quessing. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Earendil Halfelven]

You have me stumped.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Lalaith was also very close at one point

[Lalaith]

Do they rename their swords?

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

[Gil-Galad]

they all have royal heritage in them?

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

[Lindolirian]

elven maiden Earwen, you have been noping for an entire month. Whaddya say you tell us and we let the game go on?

[Estanesse]

or give us a new hint

[elven maiden Earwen]

Hey Lindolirian you were the cloesest. It was that they all died. Or they all became mortal at one point with an exception of Turgon and died.

[Lalaith]

*splutters*

[Lindolirian]

It was that they all died. That's a VERY broad subject for One Thing in Common.
Or they all became mortal at one point with an exception of Turgon and died. Then why did you include Turgon? This isn't Odd Man Out. smilies/wink.gif

Is it my turn then?

[Earendil Halfelven]

Doh!

*Earendil smacks his palm against his forehead*

Of course! I can't believe I didn't guess that! What kind of a mortal am I?

[elven maiden Earwen]

ya its your go

[Lindolirian]

Aragorn
Barahir
Thingol

That's all that I can think of for now. If I find any others who fit the description I shall post them as hints if needed.

[Lalaith]

They all died. smilies/rolleyes.gif

That was a heavy-handed attempt at a joke, incidently. I'm actually stumped as to a real answer!

[ May 21, 2003: Message edited by: Lalaith ]

[Lalaith]

They were all given a famous piece of jewellery is really all I can come up with!
Aragorn was given the Elfstone.
Barahir was given the ring of Felagund.
Thingol was given the Silmaril.

I'm sure this is wrong.

[Lindolirian]

You were so close. Since I didn't give very many people, I'll give it to you. It was that they all received something from important that came from Valinor. According to the Unfinished Tales, the Elessar was taken to Valinor after the First Age and brought back by Olorin.

[Lalaith]

Thank you Lindolirian.
Unfortunately I'm going away for about ten days and I don't want to leave a question hanging...would someone else like my go?

[Arestevana]

smilies/smile.gif I'll take it, if that's okay. If someone has an objection, feel free to ignore this post.

Primula Brandybuck
Niniel Nienor
Arvedui
Earnil I

Too easy, I know, but I can't think of another. smilies/rolleyes.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

They all drowned.

Primula Brandybuck in a boating accident on the River Brandywine.

Niniel Nienor when she jumped into the Teiglin.

Arvedui swimmming out to the Gondorian boat coming to rescue him in the icy bay of Forochel.

Earnil I in a storm off the coast of Gondor after capturing Umbar.

Edit: To add explanations.

[ May 28, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Arestevana]

smilies/biggrin.gif Correct! Drown they did smilies/wink.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

OK, what has this bunch got in common?

Aragorn
Boromir
Dori
Grishnakh
Samwise Gamgee

[Lindolirian]

They all carried a hobbit on their back.

[The Saucepan Man]

They did indeed (or under their arms, in the case of Grishnakh). Well done, Lindolirian. smilies/smile.gif

[Lindolirian]

My apologies for the tardy reply.

Erendis
Sauron
Ar-Gimilzôr
Tal-Elmar

[Finwe]

Could you clarify "Tal-Elmar" for me? I don't believe I have ever heard that before.

[Arwen Imladris]

They were all some sort of nobility?
Erendis was a noble lady of Númenor who became Queen to Tar-Aldarion, Sauron was a Maia and was in charge of all kinds of places at times, Ar-Gimilzôr was the twenty-third King of Númenor, the father of Tar-Palantir and grandfather of Ar-Pharazôn.

I also have no clue who Tal-Elmar is.

Perhaps they were all evil in some way? Sauron obviousy, Ar-Gimilzor was an enemy of the Faithful and the Elf-friends.

[Lindolirian]

Tal-Elmar was only mentioned in HoME 12. If this goes too far, I'll give a hint about who he is more. For those of you who do know who he is, then you can still get it. Actually if you know about him, it's quite easy.

[Lalaith]

They all lived during the Second Age...
or, more tentatively, they all bore ill-will to the Faithful.

[Lindolirian]

Getting close. You at least know Tal-Elmar!

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

It wasn't simply that they all lived in Numenor at some stage was it?

[Lindolirian]

You are so close, I think I'll give it to you. I don't know if Tal-Elmar actually did go to Numenor, but at the end of the story it says that he offers himself as a hostage which might imply that he went to Numenor. Anyway, my answer was that they all spoke Numenorean. Your go, Windlord!

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Thanks -- sorry about the delay. Here they are:

Morgoth
Ar-Pharazon
Saruman
Fingolfin

[Lindolirian]

They have all been to the Undying Lands.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Sorry, not what I'm looking for.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

All were Rebels.

Morgoth against Iluvatar and the other Valar.
Saruman against the Valar and the Istari.
Fingolfin was a leader in the Rebellion of the Noldor.
Ar-Pharazon against the Ban of the Valar.

Sophia

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Hmm I wouldn't really call Findgolfin a leader of the rebellion... sorry, that's not it either.
Think long-term.

[alquadae]

They all ruled a "military" force of some kind

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Close, alq. You need to develop that idea.

[alquadae]

All were defeated by Ainur

[Lyra Greenleaf]

They were all rulers- or more specifically they took more rule than they had a right to:

Ar-Pharazon tried to attack Valinor
Saruman claimed the title "The Ruler" which he had no right to
Morgoth pretty much tried to take over the whole world
Fingolfin became High-King of the Noldor instead of Maedhros- he was asked to, but the title still wasn't theoretically his
?????

[ July 13, 2003: Message edited by: Lyra Greenleaf ]

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

No. Both good answers (although I'm afraid Fingolfin doesn't quite fit into yours, Lyra).

Military force is a major factor in the answer.

[Lindolirian]

They all had a very large military force that was wiped out.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Well that wasn't exactly the answer, but as it's so close you'd better have it... my idea was that they all had huge initial military successes before suffering a huge defeat that they couldn't recover from. Ask away then, lindo.

[Lindolirian]

Nimrodel
Tar-Míriel
Drogo

[The Saucepan Man]

Is it that they all had significant others that drowned or were lost in water?

Nimrodel's lover, Amroth, was lost trying to swim back to shore in the Bay of Belfalas when a storm broke the moorings of his ship and it drifted out to sea.

Tar-Míriel's husband (and cousin), Ar-Pharazon, was lost when the seas rose as he set foot on the shores of Valinor.

Drogo's wife, Primula, drowned along with him in a tragic boating accident on the Brandywine River.

[Lindolirian]

That's it!

[The Saucepan Man]

Righty-ho.

Gandalf
Samwise Gamgee
Thorin Oakenshield
Turgon

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

They all undertook a long expedition, far away from their original homes.

[Lindolirian]

They all had at one time or another a sword that was made in Gondolin and glowed in the presence of Orcs.

[Lyta_Underhill]

Wild guess: they all made a perilous journey that involved braving a narrow dangerous pass:
Gandalf: Caradhras (or the Bridge of Khazad-Dum, for that matter!)
Samwise: Cirith Ungol
Thorin: The secret entrance to Erebor
Turgon: The Helcaraxë upon crossing to ME with the Host of Fingolfin

[ July 24, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ]

[The Saucepan Man]

The World's Tallest Hobbit has it! They all at one time wielded a blade forged in Gondolin.

Pray proceed, Lindol. smilies/smile.gif

[Lindolirian]

Frodo
Tuor
Eowyn
Elros

[Lostgaeriel]

Could we add Aragorn to this list? smilies/wink.gif

Is the one thing in common that they all had foster/adoptive fathers?

Frodo - adopted by Bilbo
Tuor - fostered by the Grey-elves of Mithrim
Éowyn - adopted by Théoden
Elros - fostered by Maglor
Aragorn - raised by Elrond

[Lindolirian]

Darn you, adding people to my list... And he fits. smilies/wink.gif Of course, you're right.

[Lostgaeriel]

Oh Lindolirian! I just thought you omitted Aragorn to put us off the scent. Really. 'Cause it almost worked.

I'm amazed that I got the answer; I haven't read The Silmarillion yet - other than the Index & Appendices. But I had just started reading Unfinished Tales - and so Tuor's childhood was fresh in my mind.

So…my turn, huh? I started to check the thread to prevent duplicating something already here, but 14 pages are too many. I doubt this one has been done.

§ Pippin
§ Pippin, again
§ Boromir
§ Glorfindel
§ Wormtongue
§ Gandalf
§ Ingold (not explicit in the text; I've just inferred this)

An addition to the list:

§ Denethor (he could be on the list twice, too.)

Need a hint? Just ask.

[ August 15, 2003: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

[ August 15, 2003: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

Another addition:
§ The Watcher in the Water

[ August 19, 2003: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

[Lostgaeriel]

OK. I'll clean up that list and give you a hint.

§ Gandalf
§ Glorfindel
§ Boromir
§ The Watcher in the Water
§ Pippin
§ Wormtongue
§ Pippin, again
§ Ingold (not explicit in the text; I've just inferred this)
§ Denethor
§ Denethor (same character, another instance)

Since two of these characters from tLotR are listed twice, you should deduce that there is some common action among them. The actions and objects that are acted upon have something in common. Think generally, not specifically.

Hint: I've listed them chronologically.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

hmmm... was it that they all performed a sudden, angry, flared-up action at one (or two) points?

[Gil-Galad]

orcs had soemthign to do with there life, got them mad, sucicdeul, killed, made them run etc.

[Cinderella]

I've come up with several things but the Watcher keeps throwing me off... all it ever did was attack Frodo... but denethor never attacked anyone, nor did Wormtounge... Another hint maybe? smilies/biggrin.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

They were all guarding something? I can be more explicit if this is the right answer.

[Lostgaeriel]

OK. Here are some hints.

Gwaihir the Windlord: Although at least 3 of the characters acted rather calmly, thoughtfully and deliberately, get a scrap of paper and jot down some specifics about these "various sudden, angry, flared-up action"s you're thinking of. You may see a type of OBJECT in common. [Subject verb object.]

Gil-Galad: Sorry, orcs don't figure in any of the actions. OK, in one case, orcs show up in the story as a result of the action.

Cinderella: A hint to you from you...
I've come up with several things but the Watcher keeps throwing me off ...

Evisse the Blue: No, they're not guarding something. But think of some things that each handled. There is a type of object in common.

HINT: If you consider Caradhras a character, it could be added to the list. smilies/evil.gif

The object(s) acted upon have more in common than the actions (verbs).

The fact that Pippin and Denethor are each listed twice should be a big clue.

[ August 20, 2003: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

I haven't written anything down =], but I've thought of something: was it that they all attacked/actively opposed at some stage a bearer of a Ring of Power? Denethor might not fit this, though, unless you want to count Sauron.

[Telchar]

Mumbles: must be about stone throwing....

[Lostgaeriel]

No, Gwaihir the Windlord, that's not it.

Remember, I re-listed the occurances (all from tLotR) chronlogogically.

Shall I give you the dates?

* October 3
* October 11
* December 13
* December 13
* December 13? 14?
* March 5
* March 5
* March 9
* March 15
* March 15

Don't think of a particular object. Think of a general type of object. I'll let you figure out if it's animal, vegetable or mineral.

Ooh!

Telchar posted while I was writing this lenghty bit of dribble.

He's pretty much got it. Stones are absolutely involved - just not always thrown.

[ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

[Lostgaeriel]

Hi Telchar!

Would you like to elaborate? You've pretty much got it. The stones weren't always thrown, that's all.

[Turambar]

Is it, more generally, that they handled a stone? Pippin dropped a stone into the well in Moria, Denethor handled the Palantir, until Wormtongue hurled it at Gandalf, Glorfindel left the beryl on the last bridge, etc.

The Watcher in the Water was awakened by a stone thrown by Boromir.

http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/headscratch.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

I thought about stones, too, but I can't think of any stone incident involving Gandalf - at least not at the date that you mentioned. (OCt 3) ? smilies/confused.gif