One Thing in Common

[Lostgaeriel]

In this game, you must identify the one thing in common for the persons (or things or places) in the list. Of course, there may be more than one thing in common and the quizzer may not have thought of all of them. Quizzer's discretion as to whether alternate answer will be accepted.

Let's get started.

What do the following characters have in common?

Pippin
Éowyn
Frodo
Gandalf
Gorbag


Maybe I should rephrase what I meant by "one thing in common". These characters have something in common that is not shared with other characters (from LOTR). It's a "5-man out" question.

(Game idea from CBC Radio show "Definitely Not the Opera". They have a sound clip quiz, where you must identify what all the sounds - music, news soundbites, sound effects, etc. - have in common. Usually something in the news. Maybe this game would work better with 5 quotes - not necessarily dialogue - from the book.)

[ November 20, 2001: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

After such a rocky start, I can hardly believe this game is still going after more than a year. smilies/biggrin.gif

[ December 15, 2002: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

[Maeglin]

I dont wanna be anoying but you can figure out millions of things that they have in common.

Take mine here for example.

They can all walk.

Eh?
Sorry...

[Lostgaeriel]

Well, I was thinking of something significant in the various plotlines of LOTR. ALL of the characters can walk.

But I give that you may be right - this game might not work out. smilies/frown.gif

Maybe I should rephrase what I meant by "one thing in common". These characters have something in common that is not shared with other characters (from LOTR). It's a "5-man out" question.

[ November 11, 2001: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

[Telchar]

I pretty sure its a good game and a good idear - I just dont get it - I mean I tried but I can figure it out smilies/smile.gif could you give us a small hint???

[The Laurenendorian]

They all defied authority?

[Lostgaeriel]

OK. This is rather tough.

HINT #1
Plot or Action Related. Each of these characters are involved in a similar situation.
Sometimes this plot device is used as a cliff-hanger and sometimes just to add suspense.

[The Laurenendorian]

Concealed identity?

[Turambar]

Is it that each of them loses consciousness during a battle ?

[Lostgaeriel]

I don't recall Pippin or Gorbag having hidden identities. So that's not it.

Turambar has almost got what I have in mind. It's not the unconsciousness of the characters. And I'm not sure that Gorbag did pass out. And other characters did lose consciousness . Merry, Faramir? By considering Hint #1 re: suspense, cliff-hanger, you should get it.

HINT #2: It has to do with how certain other characters and/or the reader view(s) these characters in those "battle situations". Whether it's for an instant or for many days/pages.

[Maeglin]

Why the heck have you added me to your ignorelist, lostgariel smilies/mad.gif . I wanna mail you!

Sorry... smilies/smile.gif

[Lostgaeriel]

OK. I guess another hint is in order. I don't think anyone is having any fun with this. smilies/frown.gif

HINT #3:
A. Faramir almost fits into this list.

B. See the post by Amarylis, November 13 in The Books II, Favourite Part? Favourite Book?

C. “The report of my death was an exaggeration.” - Samuel L. Clemens

[Telchar]

Ok I think S.L. Clemens gave it away smilies/smile.gif

They were all presumed dead at some time or another:
Pippin at Morannon
Frodo at Kirith Ungol + in The Chamber of Mazabul
Eowyn at Pelennor
Gandalf in Moria
Gorbag in the Tower of Kirith Ungol

[ November 16, 2001: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[ November 16, 2001: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Telchar]

Ok Ithis S.L. Clemens gave it away smilies/smile.gif

They were all presumed dead at some time or another:
Pippin at Morannon
Frodo at Kirith Ungol
Eowyn at Pelennor
Gandalf in Moria
Gorbag in the Tower of Kirith Ungol

[Eowyn of Ithilien]

My headache's making this difficult smilies/frown.gif but...didn't they also think that Faramir was dead when he was laid out with his father????

[Lostgaeriel]

Yes! Telchar got it. They were all presumed dead at some point in the story. Faramir was only presumed to be dying and better off dead by Denethor.

Whew! I apologise to everyone for ever starting this aggravating game! Play on!

[Telchar]

Hador
Curufin
Aragorn
Beren
Turin

[Pippin]

All in love with an elf? sorry it's late and my mind is fuzzy

[Telchar]

Hmmm - I never heard of Hador being in love with an elf - at least thats not it - smilies/smile.gif

[Pippin]

sorry. I don't know then. (hangs head in shame...)

[Beregond]

Curufin - an Elf? smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

Does it have something to do with serving another person?

[Elrian]

Originally posted by Beregond:
<STRONG>Curufin - an Elf? smilies/smile.gif</STRONG>
He's a son of Feanor

[Telchar]

A good guess Beregond, but its not that simple - think along different lines - and forget family and blood.

[Turambar]

Telchar: Does it have something to do with serving another person?

[Telchar]

Turambar said:
Telchar: Does it have something to do with serving another person?

Nope - but there is a hint in your own post above smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[Turin Turambar]

Does it have something to do with the silmarils?

[Turambar]

Is it that Hador is the only one with blonde hair?

WHICH of my posts has a hint, enigmatic dwarf? smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Turambar]

Ignore my previous post -- I forgot this is "One Thing in Common", not "Odd Man Out".

[Telchar]

I has nothing to do with the Silmarils - it has however something to do with items ....

[Elenhin]

A wild guess: they all had something important crafted by Telchar the Dwarf-smith?

Aragorn had Narsil, Beren had Angrist, and Curufin, Hador and Turin all held the Helm of Dor-Lomin at some point (if my memory serves me correctly smilies/smile.gif).

[Telchar]

Very good Elenhin! Curufin of course held Angrist that Beren took from him. Proceed, Please smilies/wink.gif

[Elenhin]

Thanks, Telchar, and sorry for the delay... I had completely forgotten this thread.

Isildur
Echtelion
Anarion
Amroth
Brandir

[Telchar]

Im lost...

BtW Ecthelion of Gondolin - right??? and Anarion son of Isildur???

[Elenhin]

Ecthelion of Gondolin, Ecthelions of Gondor... they're almost the same, when it comes to this list - but it'll help you find the right answer if you'll think of the Ecthelions of Gondor.

I meant Anarion son of Isildur, but there most probably is a connection to Tar-Anarion, the eighth king of Numenor as well.

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Okay, I have a zillion possibilities, except Brandir keeps getting in the way.

They all ruled Minas Anor / Minas Tirith for a time?

Each had one (surviving) son?

Each was slain treacherously?

- Let us know the answer ASAP. I have a phenomenally good question!

- Cirdan/Maglor68

[Elenhin]

Sorry, no.
Don't think of the persons that much - think of their names.
(Also, think of Gondor.)

[bragolheledion]

is it that they all delt on numeinor at a time

[Elrian]

They were all rulers of their people?

[ January 13, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ]

[Elenhin]

Still no...

What do the names of these people have in common with Gondor?

[Telchar]

They are all namerelated to place names in Gondor

Isildur ---> Minas Ithil
Echtelion ---> The Tower of Ecthelion
Anarion ---> The land area Anarion
Amroth ---> Dol Amroth
Brandir ---> Tol Brandir

[Elenhin]

Finally!

Your turn, Telchar.

[Telchar]

Ecthelion
Faramir
Denethor
Firiel
Boromir

[Elrian]

They were all from Gondor;
Ecthelion: Steward of Gondor
Denethor: Steward of Gondor
Firiel: Daughter of King Ondoher
Boromir: Captain of the White Tower
Faramir: Stewart of Gondor, Prince of Ithilien.

[Telchar]

NO - like before it is the name that is important.

[Turambar]

Wild guess - did they all borrow elven names?

[Telchar]

you're on the right track turambar ... just not there yet smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

Are they all names borne by two persons at least?

[Telchar]

well OK - Actually there are 15 caracters in ME that have those names - three each... GO ON

[bragolheledion]

is it that all the names have or had a place with the same name in the books somewhere
the tower of Ecthelion
and i know the silmarillion mentions the places boromir and denether

[Turambar]

Telchar - who are the other two Firiel's??
Bragolheledion - the answer was that each of those names were borne by three persons in Middle earth.


Anyway - try this one:- shouldn't be too hard:

Aragorn
Boromir
Finrod
Legolas

[Eowyn of Ithilien]

Boromir's the only one without any immortal blood???

[Turambar]

No this isn't an "Odd Man Out", all 4 have "One Thing in Common". smilies/smile.gif

[bragolheledion]

i know this one they where all heirs to a throne

aragon-->heir of aranon king of gondor
boromir-->heir to the stewardship of gondor
finrod-->i think he is heir to fingol
legolas-->heir of thingol of mirkwood

[bragolheledion]

i know this one they where all heirs to a throne

aragon-->heir of aranon king of gondor
boromir-->heir to the stewardship of gondor
finrod-->i think he is heir to fingol
legolas-->heir of thingol king of mirkwood

[Eowyn of Ithilien]

ooooops sorry Turambar smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

I didn't think of that bragolheledion - I was thinking of soemthing that all four of them did once.

[Turambar]

Hint - near Caradhras . . .

[Elenhin]

Hm... the Fellowship was attacked by wolves near Caradhras, and Finrod fought (and was killed by) wolves in Tol Sirion?

[Turambar]

Close enough - Aragorn, Boromir and Legolas all killed a wolf near Caradhra; Finrod killed a werewolf in Sauron's dungeons.

[Elenhin]

Not too hard, I think:

Feanor
Sauron
Celebrimbor
Telchar
Eol

[Turambar]

They were all smiths? Or did they all make a jewel or ornament? (Though I can't think of what jewel Eöl made.)

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Smiths, I should think.

[Elenhin]

Smiths. Turambar gets it.

[ January 27, 2002: Message edited by: Elenhin ]

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Eol created Anglachel.

- Cirdan

[Turambar]

Gandalf
Aragorn
Galadriel

[Telchar]

All names contain 2 a's smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

... or rather they all refused the temptation of the One Ring.

[ January 29, 2002: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Turambar]

Tlechar: true, but find one more thing in common. HINT: They all did something BEFORE the War of the Ring, which others did during the War.

[bragolheledion]

um is it they all owned something from the previous war about the rings!

gandalf-the elven ring of fire(his ring)
aragon-narsil
galadriel-the elven ring of "air"(her ring)

[Turambar]

bragolheledion -

No it was something they DID, not something they HAD.

HINT: Although Galadriel did this (as reported in UT), Celeborn almost certainly did not, due to a personal prejudice he had throughout the Second Age and apparently most of the Third Age.

[Turambar]

How about if I added Durin to the list? Any guesses? smilies/wink.gif

[Turambar]

I’m going AWOL and I don’t want to kill this thread so I’ll give the answer. Galadriel, Aragorn and Gandalf all passed through Moria prior to the War of the Ring. Celeborn likely didn’t because he had a grudge against dwarfs as a result of the killing of his kinsman Thingol and the sacking of Menegroth

[Telchar]

That was a good question - I had totally forgotten that Galadriel travelled through Moria.
Just to Add: Im pretty sure that Aragorn never went 'through' Moria - He stated himself that he had only passed through the Dimrill Gate, which doesn't mean that he came out of the West Gate, but more likely that he passed out through the Dimrill Gate again when he had finished his business.

I think you should give us a new one Turambar smilies/smile.gif

[Nevtalathiel]

No one has posted here for a while, so I thought I'd try to revive the thread with my own offering:

Frodo
Sauron
Maedhros

[Arwen Imladris]

Frodo
Sauron
Maedhros: Eldest son of Feanor

They all pased over the sea?
They all went bad at one point?
They all have an "O" in thier name?
They all have an "R" in thier name?

[Nevtalathiel]

Nope, not any of the things I was thinking of.

Beren fits into the list as well.

[ June 15, 2002: Message edited by: Nevtalathiel ]

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Sauron
Frodo
Maedhros
(Beren too)

Hmm...they all were in some way involved with evil. Or a Dark Lord. Beren got a Silmaril from a Dark Lord (Morgoth) Maedhros was trapped on the peak of Thangorodrim because of the Dark Lord (Morgoth, yet again) Sauron made an evil ring and was a Dark Lord, and Frodo got a ring from a Dark Lord (Sauron). So everyone was in some way connected to the "Dark side". Am I right???

[Turambar]

They all had part or all of their hand cut off.

[Nevtalathiel]

Sorry, Lothiriel Silmarien! Turambar, you got it right, over to you.

[Arwen Imladris]

Turambar? (sp?)

Well, if you want a question, cause it has been a while, how about:

Frodo
Gandalf
Galadriel
Elrond

[Lómelindi]

They all possessed a Ring of Power.

Frodo ---> the One Ring
Gandalf ---> Narya, the Ring of Fire
Galadriel ---> Nenya, the Ring of Water
Elrond ---> Vilya, the Ring of Air

[Arwen Imladris]

hmmmm... good idea, but that was not what I was thinking.

Hint: Bilbo could be added to this list.

That was not a very good hint.

Hint: think of a place that all of them were at at the same time.

That is a better hint.

[Lómelindi]

They all departed on the ship at the Grey Havens and passed into the Ancient West at the end of the Third Age?

[Arwen Imladris]

Yup! smilies/smile.gif

[Lómelindi]

This should be an easy one…

Túrin
Eärendil
Bard
Fram

[bragolheledion]

all human or at least half human lol

[Lush]

You know, if it wasn't for Eärendil, you could say that each of them slew a dragon...
Hmm.

[Lindolirian]

Ah, but Earendil, did slay a dragon. He killed Ancalagon the Black in the War of Wrath.

[Lush]

Is that right??? Crikey, it is. Fudge! You're absolutely correct. He came over on Vingilot, and did some serious damage to those dragons. And I FORGOT ALL ABOUT IT.
*banging head against desk*
I guess it's your turn then. smilies/smile.gif

[Lómelindi]

I didn't know my simple question would inspire such a debate. But of course Lindolirian jumps in and saves us all. smilies/wink.gif

[Lindolirian]

Uh, does that mean it's my turn?

[Lómelindi]

Lush almost had it, but Lindolirian finished the thought. That means yes, it's your turn.

[Lindolirian]

Ok.

Peregrin Took
Mithrandir
Hurin

[ July 03, 2002: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

[akhtene]

They all were held in captivity?
Pippin - by orks
Mithrandir - by Saruman
Hurin - by Morgoth
Beregond - by (?) for killing Denethor's men

[Lindolirian]

No. Think of what each of them did. Actually, I don't think Beregond belongs. sorry. I'll take him out of the list.

[akhtene]

Doing away with trolls then?

[Lindolirian]

Yes they all commited trollicide.

[akhtene]

Well, well... *scratching her head*

Eol
Maeglin
Tuor
Hurin
Huor

[Lindolirian]

They all were outsiders coming to Gondolin.

[ July 05, 2002: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

[akhtene]

Right again! (what else did I expect)

[Lindolirian]

Tuor
Gandalf
Galadriel
Thingol
Elwing

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

All visited (or lived/stayed) in Menegroth except Gandalf......?

[Lindolirian]

No, and this is One Thing in Common, not Odd Man Out. smilies/smile.gif

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Oh yeah, I'm getting confused now, sorry!

Ok, I was going to say that they were all sent somewhere as messengers, but then I got confused about Elwing. So I'll say.....they're all immortal???

[Lindolirian]

Correct!

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Woohoo! smilies/biggrin.gif

Galadriel
Finrod
Turgon
Fingon

[Orome]

all elves, you want more specific?

They are Noldorean, all lived in Aman

[Daniel Telcontar]

They all crossed the Helcaraxë, and were all close related.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Daniel got closest, they're all related. Your turn! (sorry Orome, yours were right of course too, but not the answer I was looking for!)

[Orome]

i know i was trying to BS it

[Daniel Telcontar]

Alright, I haven't tried this before but here is the next persons with one thing in common:

Galadriel
Celeborn
Turin
Dior

Should not be that hard.

[akhtene]

They all lived for some time in <color font'yellow'> Doriath . Right?
Celeborn was Prince of Doriath
Galadriel met him there and married him
Dior ruled in Doriath after Thingol's death
Turin was sent to Doriath by his mother

[Daniel Telcontar]

Yes, that is the connection I wanted. You may continue.

[akhtene]

Well now try this list

Beren
Thingol
Earendil
Maethros
Maglor + some others

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Beren
Thingol
Earendil
Maethros
Maglor + some others

They all once owned a Silmaril. Or atleast had it for some time.

[akhtene]

That's right. Your turn now.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

smilies/biggrin.gif

Aragorn
Gandalf
Thranduil
Frodo (Sam too)

[Daniel Telcontar]

They all had Gollum as a prisoner?

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Damn, your good!!!! I thought that there would be a hint needed at some point!

[Daniel Telcontar]

Thanks!
Next one:
Maedhros
Hurin
Gorlim
Beren
Finrod

[Lindolirian]

Each one of them were all held prisoner by either Morgoth or Sauron.

[Daniel Telcontar]

Correct! Lindolirian, master of quizzes, you're next!

[ July 24, 2002: Message edited by: Daniel Telcontar ]

[Lindolirian]

An easy one:

Glorfindel
Feanor
Mithrandir
Ecthelion

[ July 24, 2002: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

[Daniel Telcontar]

all killed a balrog?

[Lindolirian]

Correct. that was quick! smilies/smile.gif

[Daniel Telcontar]

Well, you were quick also in the "Battles" thread.

Anarion
Gil-galad
Pippin
Beregond

[Lindolirian]

They all fought the forces of Mordor before the Morannon.

[Daniel Telcontar]

Yes!!!

[Lindolirian]

Frodo
Tuor
Elrond
Eowyn

[Arwen Imladris]

They all have an O in there names?

[Lindolirian]

No, but I'm not too sure if Elrond is supposed to be in there. I'll check and take him out if needed.

[Lindolirian]

Ok, never mind, Elrond is included. His brother, Elros mgiht be added, if that helps any.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Frodo
Tuor
Elrond
Eowyn

Well, they all contributed to the ending of an age in a significant way...I guess. Frodo, well, need I say anything? Eowyn with the Witch King, Elrond....um well he..yeah, and Tuor..oh wait! They all met with a Valar, no what about Eowyn then. Ok, I'll think about this and post later..

[Lindolirian]

Keep thinkin....

[Lush]

Um. They all grew up without their mothers? Or fathers? Or both parents, as a matter of fact? They were all, uh, adopted?

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Ahhhhh, Lush why didn't I see that! Good answer, your probably right!

[Lindolirian]

Yes, Lush is right.

[Lush]

Yippee.
Ok, here is my riddle:

Thorin
Húrin
Pippin
Lúthien

What do they have in common?

[Lindolirian]

They were all captives.
Thorin- Elven King
Hurin- Morgoth
Pippin- Ugluk and orcs
Luthien- Thingol, Celegorm/Curufin

[Lush]

Awww, smart people always ruin it for everyone! smilies/biggrin.gif Bingo, Lindolirian. It's your turn!

[Lindolirian]

Luthien
Huor
Eol
Gothmog

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

They all went/were from Angbad. Luthien went with Beren, Hour was captured there, Gothmog came from there, but then Eol. Hm. Ok, can't be it. It could be that they were cast from a crevice, but that leaves Luthien and Huor out. Damn it! Stupid answers. Oh wait, I have Gothmog all wrong! Oopsy, he's not the balrog I was thinking about.
Ok, so it's:
Luthien
Huor
Eol
Gothmog

They all must have met Sauron?? Well, Huor was captured by Morgoth, he was in Angbad, Sauron must have passed by a few times on his way in and out to see his master, Luthien saw him, Eol...hm. Damn, can't find an answer for that. EEEEOL...ok, I'm trying later, PLEASE let no one get it, I want to get it!!!!!

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

As much as I don't want to say this, I must. Can you please give a little hint? Hurry, before Daniel comes on!!!! Daniel will steal my not formed yet answer! smilies/wink.gif

[Telchar]

They all saw Goldolin? (although Luthien only saw it from the air.)

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Oh wait! There's 2 Gothmogs. A balrog and a Leiutenant of Morgul. Assuming you mean the balrog (as all the rest are from the Sillmarillion) then I'll give this another try. I wasn't giving it all my attention yesterday.

Oh well, too late. It looks like Telchar got it.

[Daniel Telcontar]

Sorry, Lothiriel, but if the one Dane (that would be me) does not get it, rest assured that the other Dane will (that would be Telchar)

[Lindolirian]

Telchar's got it. Good try tho Lothiriel.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

$5#& #@!%! ******************** * * * * *
And I was so close, but I mixed up the Gothmog's! Daniel, I shoulda known!

[Telchar]

Easy one:

Gimli
Gandalf
Aragorn
Saruman
Bilbo

[Lindolirian]

Either my mind is really wacked out, or its not as easy as you say. Perhaps they had all been in Mirkwood?

[Telchar]

No comments smilies/biggrin.gif

HINT: Its something they all did

[Rimbaud]

Smoke a pipe?

[Telchar]

You read my mind big boy smilies/wink.gif - hit us ---- yeah yeah I DONT MEAN IT LITERALLY - you brute!

[Rimbaud]

Andúnië
Armenelos
Eldalondë
Nindamos
Ondosto

[Telchar]

They are all Cities or settlements in Númenor.

[Rimbaud]

As easy as ABD. Your turn, great Dane.

[Telchar]

Firefoot
Shadowfax
Bill
Arod

[Nevtalathiel]

They were all horses or ponies.

[Rimbaud]

More pertinently perhaps, they were all ridden at some time by Gimli the Dwarf.

smilies/wink.gif

[Telchar]

Exellent Stephanos!!!! you impress me!!! Thats impressive work. - GO YOU!!!!

[Rimbaud]

Eärendil
Túrin
Fram
Bard I

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Firstly, would that be Earendil the Mariner or Earendil of Gondor? Well, Earendil of Gondor didn't do much. So I'll go with Earendil the Mariner.

They all killed a dragon, except Earendil. But they all saved people. Earendil saved Middle-Earth by going to Aman, Bard saved Laketown, well most of it, Turin saved...people. Well, he killed the dragon, which could have killed many more people. And Fram killed Scatha. I think it was Scatha.

[Telchar]

Eärendil didnt kill a dragon??? ohh my...

[ August 07, 2002: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Did he kill a dragon!? I don't remember!!!

[Daniel Telcontar]

Eärendil slew Ancalagon the Black, the greatest dragon ever to exist, so I guess you are correct Lothiriel.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

How come I don't remember that!? It's not like I read the Sil that long ago. Hm. Oh well!! Woohoo, my turn!!! Well, first I gotta see what Stephanos says.

[Rimbaud]

Yes, they all killed dragons. Forgetting about Ancalagon was a crime so hideous though, that I am tempted...

I shall be lenient. smilies/wink.gif Lothiriel, thy turn.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

I don't know why I forgot it though!! That makes ME mad!!
Thanks Stephanoes!! smilies/biggrin.gif

Rivendell
Khazad-dum
Belegost
Minas Morgul

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Rivendell might not be the best one to use. But it's good enough! You people will get it anyways.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Um, is anyone willing to give an answer? It's been more than a week and I can't answer my own question..Come on, give it a try people! smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lindolirian]

They were all built in or very near large mountain ranges.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Yeah, good job, your turn!!! smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lindolirian]

Yippeeeeee!!
Azaghal
Saruman
Theoden

[Orome]

they were all killed

[Nevtalathiel]

All were lords of powerful strongholds?

[Lindolirian]

sorry to take so long. ummm not quite....

[Lindolirian]

Nevtalathiel was close.... very close.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

All were powerful lords that were killed?

[Lindolirian]

Think more about the strongholds...

[Nevtalathiel]

All held strongholds in or near mountains: Azaghal-Belegost in the Blue mountains Saruman-Isenguard South of the Misty Mountains Theoden-Edoras near the White Mountains

[Lindolirian]

Correct.

[Nevtalathiel]

Ok then,
Brandywine
Greyflood Mouths of Anduin Ringlo Serni

[Eol]

They are all rivers?

[Nevtalathiel]

True, but I want something more than that.

[Telchar]

They all ended in the Western Sea? (Except Serni that join with Gilraen before reaching the sea..) Probabli not it though smilies/frown.gif

[Nevtalathiel]

Wow, I came up with something which Telchar didn't get immedeately! No, that's not it, try looking at them all on a map.

[InklingElf]

arrrgh!hold on i'm trying to think!

[Telchar]

Thay all run somewhat from the northeast to the southwest?

[Nevtalathiel]

Correct! Your turn.

[Telchar]

Odo Proudfoot (Olos father)
Gilraen (Aragorns mother)
Thengel (Theodens father)
Drogo Baggins (Frodos father)

HINT: it has to do with themselves - not their children (just so you dont go down the wrong path) smilies/smile.gif

[Nevtalathiel]

They all died before their children were fully grown?

[Telchar]

its a good guess - but as I said - it has nothing to do with their children... smilies/wink.gif

[merlilot]

they are all breifly mentioned in LOTR?

[Telchar]

Yes, but thats not it - think time smilies/wink.gif

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

They all died or were born around the same time?

[Lindolirian]

Their spouses died early.

[Isilya]

Ask again, o wise and mighty Lindolirian

[Telchar]

Lothiriel Silmarien is very close.... smilies/smile.gif and Isilya the person that is credit for answering correctly can ask the next question - the rules are 'that simple' smilies/wink.gif

[Isilya]

True, but Lindo never sayed whether he accepted Lothiriel's answer, but seeing as Lindo hasn't been here in a while, and Lotheriel was close, I guess she has the right to ask. My apologies.

[Telchar]

The fact is that noone have yet given me a correct answer - until then ... no new question . mmwwhaaahahaha smilies/evil.gif

[merlilot]

Their husbands/wives died prematurely?

[Telchar]

No - as I said Lothiriel Silmarien is very close...

[Isilya]

They were all born in the third(?) age? I can't double check my answer right now, so this is a guess.

[Telchar]

you need to narrow it down a little Isilya smilies/wink.gif or anyone for that matter.

[Isilya]

They were all born in the same year?

[Telchar]

No they were not.
And secondly I wanna add that while guessing is good, its it should still be based on just the smallest amount of insight - if insight is out for lunch - then try research - it is allowed to use the books - actually I inspire it - thats the way to learn more - if your wild shots hit now and again then you will soon forget why and how - but if you read up and earn your right to ask the next question, I think you'll feel hust a little more proud of yourself.

Cheers Telchar smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Turambar]

Telchar -- we seem to be stumped on this one.

[Turambar]

Were they all part of a "May-December" marriage (i.e. wife was much younger) ???

[Telchar]

hmmm It was that good either - but they were all born in the same decade 2900-2910 - anyone can take it from here...

[Telchar]

Somebody?? Please?

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

They were born within 3-4 years difference of each other.
Odo-1304
Drogo-1308
Gilraen-2907
Thengel-2905

[Telchar]

Yeah!!! smilies/rolleyes.gif Go on! smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

smilies/biggrin.gif
Rosie
Lothiriel
Melian
Arwen

[Telchar]

I have no clue at all smilies/biggrin.gif unless maybe that they all married the man of their dreams after he had finished the quest of his life? smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Nope, but pretty close..

[hobbitlass]

They all married a man who became kings or rulers over their respective lands.

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Yea. I was hoping that it would last for more than 2 guesses! Your turn smilies/smile.gif

[hobbitlass]

Oh my heck, I'm right!? I hardly ever get these. But, Telchar is the one who got things rolling...thanks.
Since I wasn't expecting to have to go next, please give me till tomorrow morning. I have to do some research. Then if 7:00 a.m. (E.S.T) comes and I haven't posted, I relinquish my turn.
Thank you all.

[hobbitlass]

Theoden
Eomer
Merry
Sam
Beorn

[hobbitlass]

I'm bringing this up to the top with a hint. I get the feeling that I am jinxed and kill off topics.

All of them have a thing in common that they had out of their possesion, at least for awhile. Some with their permission some without their permission. The people can be grouped as follows...

Beorn
Sam
Eomer


Merry
Theoden (at first)

[Telchar]

I dont think you're jinxed hobitlass - but you do give us a hard question smilies/biggrin.gif Im speechless.

[hobbitlass]

Actually, I'm not sure if it's hard or just lame. And holler (anyone) if another clue is needed.

Or the answer if everyone is bored with this one.

[ October 23, 2002: Message edited by: hobbitlass ]

[hobbitlass]

All right, I'm posting the answer so this game can go on (or get buried) cause I'm tired of checking back.

HORSES. They all had horses at one time or the other that was out of their "possesion" at least for awhile. Some with permission some without.

Eomer-lent Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas
Beorn-lent Gandalf and dwarves and Bilbo
Sam-let Bill the pony go at the mines of Moria

Merry-had horses stolen at the Prancing Pony
Theoden-(at first) Gandalf takes Shadowfax then Theoden gives Shadowfax to him freely.

Like I said, not sure if this was incredibly hard or incredibaly lame.

[Turambar]

It was a perfectly good question, hobbitlass - we shd have gotten it. smilies/smile.gif

[Lindolirian]

It was a good question, but I also noticed that there were only three days in between the time of posting the original question and when you gave away the answer. Maybe you wouldn't be so "jinxed" if we had more time to think or to even visit the thread.

[hobbitlass]

I'm sorry, I guess I get too overzealous. What would be the proper time period?
Anyone can go ahead.

[ November 03, 2002: Message edited by: hobbitlass ]

[Nevtalathiel]

Ok, in that case I have one:

Luthien Aragorn Gil-Galad The Ring Elbereth Snowmane Frodo

[ November 03, 2002: Message edited by: Nevtalathiel ]

[Lostgaeriel]

There is a song or verse about each of these persons, beasts or things in The Lord of the Rings.

Song of Beren and Luthien
Riddle of Strider (Aragorn)
The Fall of Gil-Galad
Verse of the Ring(s)
Elven hymns to Elbereth Gilthoniel
Snowmane's Epitaph
Frodo of the Nine Fingers and the Ring of Doom (which isn't actually written out in the book)

The problem with this answer is that there were also songs or verses about other persons, beasts, monsters and things in tLotR, so the list could be continued to include Earendil, Durin, Nimrodel, Goldberry, etc. So I'm pretty sure I have the wrong answer.

[Nevtalathiel]

No, you are correct, I'm just too lazy to try and remember and then type out all the people/beasts/things who have verses associated with them smilies/wink.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif

Please proceed

[Lostgaeriel]

There is something in common linked to each of these clues. If I give you a straight list you'll have it in an instant. Even so...

My info is according to tLotR only.

one of the Three
the guards of the Court of the Fountain
Speak, friend and enter.
The days now are short. Either our hope cometh, or all hopes end. Therefore I send thee what I have made for thee.
'In his time the City was made more fair than it had ever been, even in the days of its first glory; and it was filled with trees and with fountains, and its gates ...'
'Here's a pretty hobbit-skin to wrap an elven-princeling in.'

[ElentariGreenleaf]

All said by Gandalf? (I just wanna know if I'm right or not. I wouldn't be able to think up one of these!) smilies/tongue.gif

[Lostgaeriel]

No-o.

First of all, not all of the items in the list are quotes. They are just clues (riddles sorta) that will give you a list of 'Things' (not 'Persons, Beasts and Monsters' or 'Places').

If I actually named the Things, I think you would have the answer immediately. All are Things from The Lord of the Rings. And they have one Thing in common.

I think I should edit the list slightly:

one of the Three
the livery of the guards of the Court of the Fountain
Speak, friend and enter. The days now are short. Either our hope cometh, or all hopes end. Therefore I send thee what I have made for thee.
"In his time the City was made more fair than it had ever been, even in the days of its first glory; and it was filled with trees and with fountains, and its gates were ------- -- ------- ..."
'Here's a pretty hobbit-skin to wrap an elven-princeling in.'


[ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: Lostgaeriel ]

[Lindolirian]

Mithril!!

Nenya?
The black and "Silver" livery of the Guard
the mithril on the doors of Moria
The Standard of Arwen with mithril in it.
The new gates were made of mithril
bilbo's/frodo's mithril coat.

[mordor136]

Me thinks you got it

[Lostgaeriel]

Yes, Lindolirian, you got it. Each item was made of mithril (true-silver) or made with ithildin (which is made from mithril).

The Guard of the Citadel at the Court of the Fountain (and only there) wore helms made of mithril. Their surcoats may have been embroidered in true-silver - the text isn't specific in that.

The emblems and letters on Durin's Doors were made using ithildin or starmoon.

The new gates of the City were made of mithril and steel.

As far as I can find, the only other sure mention of mithril in the book is in Bilbo's Song of Earendil.

Well done. Go ahead.

[Lindolirian]

Yahoooooo!!!
easy one

Sauron
Aragorn
Denethor

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Palantiri, they had all looked into a palintir at some stage.

Heh, it's all coming back to me...

[Lindolirian]

Yes, yes, I told you it was easy.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Took me some thought.

Arathorn
Boromir
Tar-Pharazon
Elrond


Similarly, ths should be rather an easy one.

[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

[Lindolirian]

Do you mean Ar-Pharazon the Golden?

if so, they all were leaders in oppositions against Sauron.
Arathorn- Captain of the Northern Dunedain.
Boromir- Son of the Steward of Gondor.
Ar-Pharazon- King of Numenor, attacked and took Sauron prisoner.
Elrond- leader in the Last Alliance, and in the War of the Ring.


but then something truly easy would be that they are all offspring of Earendil.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Er yes sorry, Ar-Pharazon.

But nope, that wasn't what I was after.

[Lindolirian]

Boromir is Boromir of the Fellowship right?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Yep.

Here, a hint... add Prince Imrahil to the list. So

Boromir
Elrond
Ar-Pharazon
Arathorn
Imrahil

Try that.

[Lindolirian]

Well, you said this was easy, so I've stopped toiling over all the complicated things that just don't work and have decided that they all have dark colored hair. Or elvish blood.... arghhh... *trying to think of easy things*....

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Yeah, you got it. Easy, wasn't it? They all had Elvish blood, so go on please.

[Lindolirian]

Ah, I knew it. The easy ones are the hardest for me cause I always think to hard.

ok I think this one is easy too, so, I'll try to make it harder by giving other names for the folks involved:

the father of Bolg
Wingfoot
Ironfoot
the brother of Pimpernel Took

[the real findorfin]

They've all been in Moria except Wingfoot!

[Lindolirian]

Hint: This is "One Thing in Common" not "Odd Man Out". smilies/wink.gif

[Lindolirian]

You were on the right track, findorfin...

[the real findorfin]

OK, well have they all been (fought???) in Moria then?

[Lindolirian]

Correct.