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Estanesse
05-06-2003, 03:10 AM
No and No, but this answer (the first one) has got some similarity with the answer I’m looking for.

The Saucepan Man
05-06-2003, 05:59 AM
Not too sure on this one, but didn't Finrod enlist the help of Dwarves to build Nargothrond, while the other two were built by Elves?

Estanesse
05-06-2003, 06:06 AM
Yes,Finrod did but that's not the answer I'm looking for

[ May 06, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

Gil-Galad
05-06-2003, 06:35 AM
i thought that the petty dwarfs lived there and since the elves from Doriath hunted them down, and there city was gettign with less people the elves just came to live there becasue nobody else was there?

Gonodlin was the last to fall/sacked

Estanesse
05-06-2003, 03:20 PM
No that's not the answer,

Sophia the Thunder Mistress
05-06-2003, 03:21 PM
Nargothrond was inhabited by dwarves after the sacking....?

Estanesse
05-06-2003, 03:30 PM
You found almost one part of the answer Sophia

lathspell
05-07-2003, 11:58 AM
Nargothrond was inhabited once more after it was sacked!...
Well, twice more actually, Glaurung too was there for some time.

lathspell

Estanesse
05-07-2003, 12:44 PM
nope

tom bombariffic
05-07-2003, 03:15 PM
Himring because it remained partly above the sea after the flooding of beleriand?

tom bombariffic
05-07-2003, 03:16 PM
oh wait someone already said that. sorry!

ok some guesses then:

-Nargothrond and Gondolin were hidden from melkor for a while, while himring wasnt?

-Nargothrond and Gondolin had only one proper way in, while himring had more?

both of these are guesses as i know virtually nothing about himring

[ May 07, 2003: Message edited by: tom bombariffic ]

Estanesse
05-09-2003, 07:46 AM
No and no

Hint : It has something to do with dwarves and dragons, but dragons are no part of the answer

Gil-Galad
05-14-2003, 04:07 PM
the dwarevs were the only ones to interact in nargothtrhaunds making, the others were by elves

Gil-Galad
05-14-2003, 04:08 PM
the dwarves were the only ones to interact in nargoththraunds making, the others were by elves.

(sorry if i spell wrong)

Estanesse
05-15-2003, 07:35 AM
Nargothrond is not the answer.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress
05-15-2003, 11:03 AM
Did the Dwarves of Nogrod and Belegost fight at Himring? I believe they were the allies of Maedhros? That would make it the only one where dwarves fought on the same side as the elves.

Sophia

Estanesse
05-15-2003, 01:37 PM
Dwarfs’ fighting at Himrig is one part of the answer but Himring is not the answer smilies/smile.gif

Nerindel
05-15-2003, 04:49 PM
There has never been dwarves in Gondolin?

Estanesse
05-17-2003, 06:02 AM
Right place but for the wrong reason

Sophia the Thunder Mistress
05-17-2003, 07:21 PM
Gondolin was the only one that fell through inside treachery and not outside? Himring was betrayed by Ulfang etc. and Nargothrond was destroyed by Glaurung, but not through treachery. Gondolin was betrayed by Maeglin, it's future ruler.

Sophia

Estanesse
05-18-2003, 05:16 AM
No sorry that’s not it , dwarf has to be a central point in the motivation

Gil-Galad
06-06-2003, 03:41 PM
none of the gates of Gondolin were wrought by Dwarves?

Gil-Galad
06-06-2003, 03:42 PM
none of the gates of Gondolin were wrought by Dwarves?
(clsoet one is Maeglins gate whch he made with dwarvish skill)

Estanesse
06-07-2003, 07:53 AM
Nope that’s not it, Gondolin is the only place were none of the dwarfs were killed
you can ask a new question, If you want

[ June 07, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

mordor136
06-08-2003, 02:00 AM
I'm not going to take the question opportunity! However I do wish to express my shock at the fact that one of my threads could last this long! Thnks for keeping it up and running. smilies/biggrin.gif

Gil-Galad
06-08-2003, 09:35 AM
sure i'll make the next one, actaully i foudn this on the second page and tried to keep it alive

1. Lorien
2. Avathar
3. Mordor
4. Sirion

Orofaniel
06-11-2003, 09:31 AM
Is the odd place out 2. Avathar??? smilies/rolleyes.gif

Finwe
06-11-2003, 10:50 AM
The odd place out is Lorien because all of the others were somehow touched by evil at one time.

Avathar --> Morgoth/Ungoliant
Mordor --> Sauron
Sirion --> Feanor's sons (evil enough!)

Orofaniel
06-11-2003, 10:53 AM
You are probably right.......Lorien was my second choice you know.....LOL smilies/biggrin.gif

Gil-Galad
06-11-2003, 03:32 PM
nope sorry


Edit: think elves ...

[ June 11, 2003: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ]

Orofaniel
06-12-2003, 12:07 PM
Is it Sirion then?

Gil-Galad
06-12-2003, 03:29 PM
nope and you gotta give me a reason too yah know

Gil-Galad
06-13-2003, 04:08 PM
need another hint?

Orofaniel
06-13-2003, 04:10 PM
yes I think we do... smilies/biggrin.gif

Estanesse
06-13-2003, 05:36 PM
Is it Mordor the only land/place were Elves never dwelt.

Gil-Galad
06-14-2003, 04:35 PM
its in the first part of the Silmarillion

Lindolirian
06-14-2003, 09:39 PM
Lorien is the only one where giant spiders did not live near.

Gil-Galad
06-15-2003, 03:17 PM
nope

Finwe
06-16-2003, 08:36 AM
It is Avathar because Elves never dwelt there or went there.

Lorien --> the Galadhrim
Mordor --> the Last Alliance
Sirion --> Elrond/Elros/Elwing, etc.

Gil-Galad
06-16-2003, 03:28 PM
neither, i'll give you antoehr hint, or maybe you should Dream about the anwser

Gwaihir the Windlord
06-16-2003, 05:47 PM
No-one is recorded in a state of dreaming in Avathar.

Gil-Galad
06-17-2003, 03:44 PM
who says the anwser is Avathar? i never did...

Gwaihir the Windlord
06-17-2003, 06:50 PM
Hmm, so I take it Avathar isn't the answer? This is a fairly tough one to crack....

Mordor was never evacuated or deserted like the others were, but then Avathar was never exactly populated in the first place.

Was it that Mordor was not on the water? Unless you count Nurnen of course, but that wasn't a landlocked lake and slightly different.

[ June 17, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

Gil-Galad
06-18-2003, 03:47 PM
i thought this wasn't really hard, if you reread the Silmarillion about how Feanor was still in the Undying Lands, then you will know the anwser (now that i have expalined it)

Gwaihir the Windlord
06-19-2003, 02:09 AM
Lol, it is in fact quite a hard one you've given us.

Mordor, Avathar, Sirion, Lorien... could it perhaps be that no relative of Feanor ever went to Avathar, if that's the kind of thing you're getting at (no time to fetch the Sil right now I'm afraid =])?

Gil-Galad
06-19-2003, 11:19 AM
tahts not right anwser but should i just give the anwser and any one can go?

Gil-Galad
06-21-2003, 01:06 PM
well? shall i just reveal the anwser or will you keep guessing? i've almost ran out of clues

Gwaihir the Windlord
06-22-2003, 12:44 AM
Errr well I was going to say something about shadows but I don't think that's on the right track either... perhaps Lorien (in Valinor) was the only place that an Elf died naturally in (Miriel)? Seems like a long shot... Well go on then, give us the answer. I don't think we're getting anyway with this bilogue of ours.

Gil-Galad
06-22-2003, 11:07 AM
FINALLY GWAIHIR!!!!!!!! THAT WAS THE ANWSER!!!!!!!! IN LORIEN (WHICH MEANS DREAM) WAS THE ONLY PLACE AN ELF DIED NATURALLY!!!!!!!GOOD WORK AND ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!

Gwaihir the Windlord
06-23-2003, 02:40 AM
Really? But surely no Elf died, naturally or otherwise, at all in Avathar. Rather an ill-fitting question wasn't it? =\

Well ok, I'll give the next one anyway (which by the way should be terribly easy):
- Fangorn
- Edoras
- Erebor
- Bag-End

Gil-Galad
06-23-2003, 11:35 AM
fanghorn was the only one not to be reconguered
(Edoras- Dundenlings)
(Erebor- Smaug)
(BAg-End- Saruman)

Lindolirian
06-23-2003, 09:12 PM
Terribly easy you say? Then I shall give a terribly obvious answer. Bag-End is the only one situated on the Eastern side of the Hithaeglir. It also is the only one that does not have a River Running through it.

EDIT: To avoid onfusion, I just wanted to clarify that the capitalization was toemphasize on my pun of "river running through" and "the River Running".

[ June 23, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Gwaihir the Windlord
06-24-2003, 02:29 AM
Hmmm, well perhaps not THAT easy I suppose =]... both decent answers, but neither the one I was looking for. Three or four more and I might give you a Clue.

That was a pathetic pun by the way.

Lindolirian
06-24-2003, 09:10 AM
That was a pathetic pun by the way.

Thank you, I need the encouragement. smilies/wink.gif

The Saucepan Man
06-24-2003, 11:07 AM
I will say Erebor, on the basis that Meriadoc Brandybuck visited them all except Erebor.

Gwaihir the Windlord
06-25-2003, 01:48 AM
Close, Saucepan, but not quite.

Actually this probably isn't going to be easy at all. In fact it may be quite hard. Sorry if I have deluded any of you with falsehoods of easiness... anyway there's a clue at least, that it's to do with Hobbits.

[ June 25, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

Gwaihir the Windlord
06-30-2003, 02:00 AM
No-one else want to try?

Saucepan was on the right track.

Gwaihir the Windlord
07-02-2003, 12:54 AM
(Sigh) If no one wants to have a guess, then I'll be obliged to tell the answer to keep the thread going. No takers?

Gwaihir the Windlord
07-03-2003, 12:53 AM
Hmm when you make four posts in a row something's wrong... the answer was Fangorn, because a Ringbearer never slept there. Slightly obscure perhaps... anyway, anyone who wants to take the next question can go ahead. Maybe I'll have another try at answering that.

The Saucepan Man
07-03-2003, 06:35 AM
Slightly obscure perhaps ...

Slight understatement perhaps ... smilies/wink.gif

Gwaihir, don't assume from the fact that there have been no posts that people are not puzzling over your question. It is quite right that people should avoid posting idle speculation or comments on Quiz threads and that they should post only when they think that they might have an answer. In any event, I for one had been racking my brains trying to think of who went to each location and who didn't. smilies/rolleyes.gif

And (within reason) there is no requirement that you close off the question while your last post goes unanswered.

But anyway, good question. smilies/smile.gif And, since my answer was "on the right track", I will take the liberty of posting the next (which I suspect will be somewhat easier):

Barad-Dur
Cirith Ungol
Minas Morgul
Orthanc

Gil-Galad
07-03-2003, 08:07 AM
Cirith Ungo lwas teh smallest establishment or Barad-dur wasn't/was really important that much to the WOTR
(Orthanc- atatcked Rohan)
(Minas Morgul- attacked Gondor)
(Cirith Ungol- posioned Frodo)

The Saucepan Man
07-03-2003, 06:15 PM
Nope. Neither of those is the answer that I am looking for.

Gwaihir the Windlord
07-04-2003, 12:52 AM
Could either be Barad-dur, because it was the only tower not built by the Numenoreans, or perhaps Orthanc as it was never directly controlled by Sauron.

The Saucepan Man
07-04-2003, 06:14 PM
Your first answer is the correct one, Gwaihir. The Towers at Cirith Ungol, Minas Morgul and Orthanc were all built by Numenorians, whereas Barad-Dur was of course raised by Sauron.

Please continue. smilies/smile.gif

Gwaihir the Windlord
07-05-2003, 02:36 AM
Thanks. Perhaps this one will be more popular, although I'm afraid hard questions are a bit of a bad habit of mine. smilies/smile.gif

Faramir
Arvedui
Boromir
Aragorn

Please though, don't keep me in the dark about it this time.

alquadae
07-05-2003, 06:21 AM
Arvedui is fron the "Northen line"

Gwaihir the Windlord
07-05-2003, 08:41 AM
Ah, sorry, this is odd place out isn't it... I'm getting terribly absent minded these days. Anyway, forget about that please *ahem* here's the true list.

Amon Anwar
Taniquetil
Meneltarma
Amon Dîn

alquadae
07-05-2003, 11:10 AM
Taniquetil is the only "watchtower" not used by mortals.

Gwaihir the Windlord
07-06-2003, 03:08 AM
You got it in one, alquadae *dead chuffed* smilies/smile.gif. You may proceed.

(By the way, your answer to my first bungled question about rulers was incorrect... Aragorn was Northern too)

alquadae
07-06-2003, 01:37 PM
formen
kemen
hyarmen
romen
numen

Gwaihir the Windlord
07-07-2003, 02:59 AM
Clever question... Kemen. It is the only one not found in the place-names of Numenor.

alquadae
07-07-2003, 03:35 AM
If you please,M'lord,a little more.Your on the right path.

Gwaihir the Windlord
07-08-2003, 03:02 AM
More? Hmm I'm not sure how to go about continuing on this track. Could I have a hint please? To be really useful, you might tell me whether you're talking about Numenor or not. =/

Lindolirian
07-08-2003, 02:48 PM
Formen is North
Hyarmen is South
Romen is East
Numen is West

Kemen is not a direction.

alquadae
07-08-2003, 03:06 PM
You have my compass
Please carry on

Lindolirian
07-24-2003, 03:37 PM
Combe
Staddle
Archet

Gwaihir the Windlord
07-29-2003, 03:00 AM
Staddle was the only one inhabited by Hobbits, as well as Men.

Lindolirian
07-30-2003, 09:05 PM
It's more of a geographic difference than a demographic.

Luthien_ Tinuviel
07-31-2003, 04:20 PM
Combe was the only one of the three that was in a valley?

Lindolirian
07-31-2003, 08:51 PM
Not quite.

Gwaihir the Windlord
08-01-2003, 01:07 AM
Staddle the only one on a hill?

Meneltarmacil
08-02-2003, 01:13 AM
Archet the only place in a forest or not on Bree-hill?

Tarien Ithil
08-09-2003, 12:41 PM
Combe, because it was nearest to teh South Downs?

Clearly, I am just guessing!

Mariska Greenleaf
08-09-2003, 01:11 PM
Combe is the only one that took its name from its location?
Combe lay in a deep valley, and "combe" was an old word for valley.

Tarien Ithil
08-12-2003, 11:25 AM
There was Staddle on the other side of the hill, Combe in a deep valley a little further eastward, and Archet on the edge of Chetwood.

I've been pouring over this but with no success. Please, another clue?

Lindolirian
08-12-2003, 10:17 PM
Ah! I'm sorry I've been gone for so long. Meneltarmacil had it on August 2 with the fact that Archet was merely the only one in a forest. Sorry for all of you who kept working so hard on it.

Tarien Ithil
08-13-2003, 11:56 AM
Phew! Such a simple answer! And Mariska and I were babbling on about other differences! smilies/eek.gif

[ August 13, 2003: Message edited by: Tarien Ithil ]

Meneltarmacil
08-27-2003, 11:26 AM
Nevrast
Mithrim
Gorgoroth
Nurn

These places really do not have much in common, but if you look at what three of them have in common, then it'll be really obvious why the fourth doesn't fit.

The Saucepan Man
08-28-2003, 04:37 PM
I'll say Gorgoroth, as it is the only region that does not contain a body of water (Linaewen in Nevrast, Lake Mithrim in Mithrim and the Sea of Nurnen in Nurn).

Meneltarmacil
08-28-2003, 08:45 PM
Absolutely right! You got that one really easily. Apparently, I am not that great at coming up with hard questions smilies/frown.gif... Go ahead, Saucepan Man!

[ August 28, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ]

The Saucepan Man
08-31-2003, 06:01 AM
Bag End
Cirith Ungol
Orodruin
Rivendell

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong ... smilies/biggrin.gif

Lindolirian
08-31-2003, 04:10 PM
No river flows near Orodruin. Except its own rivers of lava, of course. smilies/wink.gif

The Saucepan Man
09-01-2003, 10:43 AM
Nope. That's not the answer that I'm looking for.

Elentári
09-01-2003, 12:30 PM
Does that mean it isn't Orodruin, or just that the reason was wrong? I was thinking Orodruin, because it is the only one that is a place, not a home of some sort- all the others are lived in, that one is a volcano!

Lindolirian
09-01-2003, 08:06 PM
I just have this hunch about Orodruin and it might be that it's the only place that Bilbo's mithril coat did not go to. Maybe, maybe not...

The Saucepan Man
09-02-2003, 07:19 AM
Nope, neither of those is what I'm looking for. And Orodruin may be the odd one out ...

... but then again it may not be. smilies/wink.gif

By way of a hint, I have added another location:

Anduin River
Bag End
Cirith Ungol
Orodruin
Rivendell

[ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Gil-Galad
09-02-2003, 08:03 AM
Cirith Ungol because there wasn't very any major battle around there

Bag end- the uprising aganest Sharkey
Orodruin- siege of Barad-Dur/ desturcution of the ring
Anduin- taking of Osgiliath
Rivnedell- aganest Angmar

The Saucepan Man
09-02-2003, 05:20 PM
Sorry, that's not it either.

The Saucepan Man
09-04-2003, 05:00 PM
Another hint, another location ...

Anduin River
Bag End
Cirith Ungol
Goblin Tunnels
Orodruin
Rivendell

That should help. smilies/wink.gif

Lindolirian
09-04-2003, 05:48 PM
No one was hurt while aruging over the Ring in Rivendell.

The Saucepan Man
09-06-2003, 08:14 AM
You have the location, Lindol, but not the explanation, although you are very close indeed.

A little more detail may assist:

Anduin River - near Gladden Fields
Bag End
Cirith Ungol - just outside Shelob's lair and in the top chamber of the Tower
Goblin Tunnels
Orodruin - on the slopes and at Sammath Naur
Rivendell

The Saucepan Man
09-08-2003, 06:10 PM
Final hint: http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon12.gif

Surely someone must get this now? smilies/rolleyes.gif

Evisse the Blue
09-08-2003, 07:30 PM
Rivendell is the OPO because...ummm...the Ring didn't change masters here. In all the other places it passed from someone to another.

The Saucepan Man
09-09-2003, 11:32 AM
At last! You are correct, Evisse. They are all locations where the identity of the Ringbearer changed, with the exception of Rivendell. Well done. The thread is yours. smilies/smile.gif

Evisse the Blue
09-09-2003, 03:38 PM
Oh. Thanks, Saucy. Oy - I'm really really weak at geography and places and such and ME is no exception, but - here's my humble attempt at a riddle:
Nan Elmoth
Neldoreth
Rohan
Gondor
Caras Galadhon

alquadae
09-18-2003, 07:31 PM
Rohan is mostly grassland while the others are wooded?

Evisse the Blue
09-21-2003, 04:52 AM
Nope. Think of something that has to do with people.

Meneltarmacil
09-22-2003, 06:15 PM
Rohan because it was never inhabited by elves?

And yes, Gondor WAS inhabited by elves in the past. (think Edhellond)

Evisse the Blue
09-23-2003, 11:58 AM
No. I mean, right OPO, wrong reason.

Telchar
09-24-2003, 02:44 AM
Nope. Think of something that has to do with people.

This one is difficult - which is good smilies/smile.gif - but just to make perfectly sure Evisse the Blue, do you mean people, as is 'a people' or (specific) persons ???

Evisse the Blue
09-24-2003, 03:47 AM
I mean specific persons - good question, Telchar, cause this makes for a good hint!

Tarien Ithil
09-28-2003, 01:15 PM
Rohan, because the Teleri people did not settle there.

I’m probably wrong…………(I think it’s also got something to do with Beleriand and Elwe Singollo)

Evisse the Blue
09-28-2003, 01:38 PM
Yeah, you're wrong, because it's not about people as a whole race but about individuals.
Elwe Singollo does indeed have something to do with it. And this is a big hint.

Telchar
09-30-2003, 07:59 AM
I AM <-----soooo-----> LOST

Niluial
09-30-2003, 03:28 PM
I have been trying to figure this out for the past hour I even turned to google (eek)… but nothing. Any other clues or is that all you giving us?

Niluial

Evisse the Blue
10-01-2003, 06:36 AM
Lol, that's so fun, because it's actually staring you in the face. You guys are probably looking so hard that you fail to see the obvious. Think about the individuals for whom those places meant ... something. Rememebr that Rohan is the OPO.
And I could give a more specific location for Gondor: Minas Tirith.

Telchar
10-01-2003, 07:20 AM
I feel so 'one track minded...'

The only thing I can come yo with is that no kinsman of Thingol ever lived in Rohan...

Meneltarmacil
10-01-2003, 08:23 PM
Does it have anything to do with people(all related to Thingol, naturally)falling in love/getting married/etc.? Thingol and Melian in Nan Elmoth, Beren and Luthien in Neldoreth, Aragorn and Arwen in Minas Tirith, and let's see...Nobody in Rohan.
*thinks a bit*
Wait a second! Aragorn and Arwen didn't meet and fall in love in Minas Tirith! Now my answer is useless!

*yells and screams and bangs head against wall*

I'm about to take a cue from Denethor and torch myself if this isn't solved soon...

Come on, what is it? We're all stumped.

[ October 01, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ]

Evisse the Blue
10-04-2003, 06:50 AM
Meneltarmacil, you got it! Yeeeeah!
::jumps up and down throwing confetti above stumped barrowdowners::
Even if you got the Minas Tirith one wrong, as you yourself admited. It was Eowyn and Faramir who fell in love in Minas Tirith. You got the reason right, so it's your turn.

Meneltarmacil
10-04-2003, 09:49 AM
Minas Tirith
Isengard
Osgiliath
Amon Hen

[ October 04, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ]

Telchar
10-04-2003, 11:23 AM
The easy answer would be - there was never a palantiri on Amon Hen... but that probably too simple?

Meneltarmacil
10-04-2003, 11:36 AM
Good guess, but sorry, that wasn't what I was thinking. Guess again.

Gil-Galad
10-04-2003, 02:49 PM
Minas Tirith was never abandoned
(MAin Hen was in ruin, nobody dwelled at Isengard and Osgiliath was also in ruin

Meneltarmacil
10-04-2003, 04:07 PM
Nope, not what I was thinking either. It has something to do with people.

Gil-Galad
10-04-2003, 08:10 PM
Isengard was the only place a wizard dwelled? or Isengard was the only place given away

Meneltarmacil
10-04-2003, 09:32 PM
Right OPO, wrong reason though. Keep 'em coming!

Gil-Galad
10-05-2003, 09:36 AM
Isengard was the only place tooken over by the Dunlendings? or the ents?

Meneltarmacil
10-05-2003, 10:47 AM
Wrong again, Gil-Galad. The answer involves one specific person.

tom bombariffic
10-05-2003, 01:11 PM
Boromir never went to Isengard?

Meneltarmacil
10-05-2003, 02:04 PM
Boromir never went to Isengard?
You're absoluely right! How on earth did you guess that so quickly?

Your turn, tom bombariffic!

[ October 05, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ]

Gil-Galad
10-05-2003, 02:14 PM
wow that amaezes me too...

tom bombariffic
10-06-2003, 09:28 AM
Thanks guys! I did have the extra clue of it just being to do with 1 person though...

Anyway, my tolkien knowledge pales in insignificance compared to most barrow-downers', so its probably really easy, but i've given it a shot:

HELM'S DEEP
MINAS TIRITH
ISENGARD
THE SHIRE


I know two of the answers were in the last question, so please don't heckle me for lack of imagination!

[ October 06, 2003: Message edited by: tom bombariffic ]

Lord of Angmar
10-06-2003, 10:06 AM
This seems a bit of a stretch, but Theoden, Legolas and Gimli went to all of these locales at some point but the Shire.

tom bombariffic
10-06-2003, 11:19 AM
They did indeed! However, good guess as it was, I'm afraid its not the answer I was thinking of. That really would have been a bit TOO similar to the last quesiton wouldn't it?

But keep trying! It's not that hard.

Telchar
10-06-2003, 01:58 PM
The Shire was not made by the people og Gondor, maybe?

tom bombariffic
10-06-2003, 02:40 PM
'Fraid not. Perhaps a little clue would be in order....Well maybe later. Best not to be hasty, eh? Hoom hoom.

(by the way that's not a clue)

BOmbariffic

Meneltarmacil
10-06-2003, 04:35 PM
Is it Minas Tirith because Saruman never tried to take it over?

Isengard was given to him.
He took over the Shire.
He attempted to take over Helm's deep.

Gil-Galad
10-06-2003, 04:57 PM
the route Boromir took didn't go by the Shire

Telchar
10-06-2003, 05:32 PM
We never hear any story about ents seen in Minas Tirith.... remember cousin Andy

tom bombariffic
10-07-2003, 10:49 AM
sorry, I'm afraid none of those was the answer I was looking for! I'll try and come up with a decent clue a bit later!

keep guessing

Bombariffic

Estanesse
10-07-2003, 04:52 PM
Is the odd place out the Shire, because it was founded in the third age?

Gil-Galad
10-07-2003, 06:39 PM
The Shire was built on land that belonged too Arnor, so when the Halfings came, the king of Arnor granted them land in return for thier allegiance, so th Shire sent some archers they never saw again... so the Shire is the odd place out becasue it beloned to Arnor, only oen htat sent aid too Arnor before its downfall and i'll think of more....

tom bombariffic
10-08-2003, 09:48 AM
sorry, neither were what I was looking for, so here's a clue:

You could substitute Isengard for Weathertop.

let's see where that gets you!

Bombariffic

Telchar
10-08-2003, 10:02 AM
There was never a Palantiri in the Shire?

tom bombariffic
10-08-2003, 10:38 AM
sorry, still not it!

Mr B

Telchar
10-08-2003, 10:50 AM
And here I thought my answer was so damn clever!!! smilies/evil.gif

Lindolirian
10-08-2003, 10:53 AM
Helm's Deep is the only place where the Nazgul did not come looking for the Ring.

tom bombariffic
10-08-2003, 11:47 AM
that may be true, but still not what I want!

I thought weathertop was quite a good clue, cos there aren't many things that we know about it!

well, good luck!

Bombariffic

Meneltarmacil
10-08-2003, 01:29 PM
The Shire never had a tower.

tom bombariffic
10-08-2003, 01:52 PM
sorry, not it!

need another clue?

Bombariffic

Telchar
10-08-2003, 03:57 PM
YES!!! smilies/tongue.gif

Gil-Galad
10-08-2003, 04:43 PM
Shire made by Hobbits
Weathtop made by Northern Exiles
Minas Tirith made by southern Exiles
Helms Deep made by teh Eothed

Telchar
10-09-2003, 12:44 AM
I always thought that Helms Deep was a gorge where the fortress The Hornburg was made? The gorge was probably not made by men, but the fortress was most certainly made by the people of Gondor before it decay.

Gwaihir the Windlord
10-09-2003, 02:12 AM
Helm's Deep and the Hornburg were the same fortress, built in a suitable place on the edge of the mountains. It earned the name Helm's Deep after the long besiegement of Helm Hammerhand there, in TA 2758, by the Dunlendings; Appendix A to LotR, page 429 etc.

Nilpaurion Felagund
10-09-2003, 02:56 AM
Pippin never went to Helm's Deep?

tom bombariffic
10-09-2003, 09:06 AM
sorry, still not got it, so here's another clue:

Think Battles.

Bombariffic

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: tom bombariffic ]

Lindolirian
10-09-2003, 10:42 AM
The Shire was the only one to never have a wall or gate broken down during a seige.

tom bombariffic
10-09-2003, 02:12 PM
Very good answer, but unfortunately I don't believe that complied with my first clue of being able to substitute Isengard for Weathertop. Well anyway, it's not what I was lookign for, although it would have been a great question wouldn't it?

Anyway no, but with battles you are on the right track.

Bombariffic

Gil-Galad
10-09-2003, 03:39 PM
orcs weren't really near Amon Sul, or they didn't attack it when Frodo was there?

tom bombariffic
10-10-2003, 09:06 AM
still no...but getting ever closer.

Bombariffic

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-10-2003, 10:57 AM
Hi! I decited to join in your quiz game.

So would the answer be Helm's Deep?
In the battle in the Shire - hobbits
In the battle in Isenguard - hobbits
In the battle of Pelennor (Minas Tirith) - hobbits
In the battle of Helm's Deep - no hobbits

tom bombariffic
10-10-2003, 12:26 PM
I'm afraid that's not the answer I wanted...

so here's another clue:

think deaths

and remember the other 2 clues!!

Bombariffic (expecting the right answer any minute!!)

Gil-Galad
10-11-2003, 11:03 AM
only in the Pellenor fields did a king of Rohan died

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-11-2003, 11:20 AM
Isenguard - no men died?

Finwe
10-11-2003, 06:19 PM
Isengard- because no men were killed in its conquest (which did not involve a battle).

tom bombariffic
10-12-2003, 03:31 AM
finally, someone has the answer! well in fact 2 people had it - no MEN died in Isengard in LOTR. (And of course, if you used my clue, no men died at weathertop).

Well dancing spawn of Ungoliant was first to get it, so Onward!

Bombariffic

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-12-2003, 08:54 AM
Yippee! I can't think anything proper right now...I'll come back when I have somthing to you to struggle with smilies/smile.gif

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-12-2003, 09:11 AM
Okey, here we go.

Mt.Doom
Ithilien
Dead Marshes
Amon-Sûl

Telchar
10-12-2003, 10:39 AM
Gollum never went to Amon Sûl ?

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-12-2003, 11:53 AM
Nope. Nice try. smilies/tongue.gif

Finwe
10-12-2003, 12:39 PM
Mt. Doom -- Men had never lived there (or been there).

Estanesse
10-12-2003, 05:05 PM
There has never been a mayor battle on mount doom

Gil-Galad
10-12-2003, 09:50 PM
Orcs have never found a real, good path through the dead marshes and it is Isengard, not Isenguard even though most people would think that...

Evisse the Blue
10-13-2003, 01:26 AM
Amon Sul because it wasn't under the power of the dark lord?

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-13-2003, 08:43 AM
Nope, nope, nope and nope.
Do you want a hint?

it is Isengard, not Isenguard
Oh my...I knew that but I have misspelled it twice smilies/eek.gif Thanks for correcting my mistake smilies/smile.gif

Finwe
10-13-2003, 08:45 AM
A hint would be greatly appreciated.

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-13-2003, 08:47 AM
A hint: it deals with an object/objects.
Hope that helps.

Gil-Galad
10-13-2003, 05:27 PM
only in Amon-sul was a Palantir

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-14-2003, 06:17 AM
No.

Evisse the Blue
10-16-2003, 10:35 AM
Mt Doom because the ring remained there - it journeyed through all the other places.

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-16-2003, 11:43 AM
Nice one but the right answer isn't maybe so obvious. You have wrong object.

LePetitChoux
10-21-2003, 04:13 AM
Amon Sûl, because that's the only place that the Phial od Galadriel/Sting/Mithril Coat (sorry, 3 in 1) didn't go? smilies/smile.gif

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-23-2003, 08:56 AM
Still no. Would you like to have a hint?

Telchar
10-23-2003, 09:47 AM
Would you like to have a hint?

I would smilies/wink.gif dunno about the others smilies/biggrin.gif

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-24-2003, 10:05 AM
It deals with with an object/objects owned one member from the Fellowship.

Gil-Galad
10-24-2003, 03:43 PM
Aragorn did not have ANduril/Narsil at Amon Sul when he was there with the hobbits

Telchar
10-24-2003, 04:37 PM
The Phial of Galadriel has been into question, so I would say Sams little box of gardening never were at Amon Sûl... maybe?

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-25-2003, 06:06 AM
Neither one hits the target but Telchar shoots closer.

Finwe
10-25-2003, 12:44 PM
None of Galadriel's gifts was ever at Amon Sul?

Telchar
10-25-2003, 12:58 PM
Sam actually never went to Amon Sûl, he stayed in the dell below with Pippin.

dancing spawn of ungoliant
10-26-2003, 01:18 AM
Nope and nope. Look at the previous posts. Actually I have given you the right "odd place" and the right character. smilies/smile.gif

dancing spawn of ungoliant
11-02-2003, 06:06 AM
Anybody? Come on, this isn't so hard. smilies/smile.gif

Telchar
11-02-2003, 08:57 AM
oki - if its Sam, and if its Amon Sûl, and concerns an object, I can only come up with Sams cooking gear - or maybe his elvish robe...

Finwe
11-02-2003, 04:05 PM
Amon Sul was the only place that Sam didn't use his cooking gear as a weapon?????

(Yes, I'm getting desperate here.)

dancing spawn of ungoliant
11-03-2003, 11:56 AM
Very, very, very close indeed. But where did you caught that idea that the Odd Place is Amon-sûl? I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. Still look one of the previous posts and you have the answer smilies/smile.gif

NightKnight
11-03-2003, 12:53 PM
Sam's cooking gear never was at Mt Doom, since he threw it away before.

dancing spawn of ungoliant
11-04-2003, 07:44 AM
YES!!! Congratulations NightKnight, you got it! Please proceed! smilies/smile.gif

[ November 04, 2003: Message edited by: dancing spawn of ungoliant ]

Telchar
11-04-2003, 11:31 AM
GGGRRRRRR!!!!!! Sams cooking gear didnt go to Amon Sûl either!!! - Sam didnt even go there smilies/tongue.gif

NightKnight
11-04-2003, 01:19 PM
Mouths of Sirion
Ascar
Alqualondë
Menegroth

A pretty easy one. smilies/wink.gif

Telchar
11-04-2003, 05:04 PM
Elwing never dwelt at Ascar?

Estanesse
11-07-2003, 10:35 AM
Alqualondë
All other places are swallowed by the sea after the destruction of Thangorodrim

dancing spawn of ungoliant
11-07-2003, 10:37 AM
Sams cooking gear didnt go to Amon Sûl either!!! - Sam didnt even go there
Ack...I'm so sorry! I'll pay more attention next time. Please don't hurt me *dodges sharp flying items*

smilies/smile.gif

NightKnight
11-07-2003, 10:46 AM
Both wrong. Maybe it isn't as easy as I thought. smilies/biggrin.gif

Telchar
11-07-2003, 04:31 PM
Alqualonde - because no one tried to take possesion of a Silmaril there....?

NightKnight
11-08-2003, 09:15 AM
Nope.

Telchar
11-08-2003, 01:18 PM
Maybe it isn't as easy as I thought

Ohh my god! We have totally overlooked the obvious!!!

No slaying of elf by elf at Ascar! smilies/eek.gif

NightKnight
11-09-2003, 05:49 AM
Finally! Yes, that's it! smilies/biggrin.gif

Telchar
11-09-2003, 08:02 AM
Eglarest
Nargothrond
Menegroth
Gondolin
Brinthombar

NightKnight
11-10-2003, 10:55 AM
Menegroth, the only that wasn't destroyed by Morgoth's forces.

Telchar
11-10-2003, 02:20 PM
Bullseye! Continue pls smilies/wink.gif

NightKnight
11-11-2003, 12:47 PM
Gilrain
Serni
Sirith
Ciril

Lindolirian
11-11-2003, 06:37 PM
Ciril is the only river not in the region of Lebennin.

NightKnight
11-13-2003, 12:02 PM
Right you are. Go on! smilies/smile.gif

Lindolirian
12-09-2003, 03:29 PM
Nargothrond
Helm's Deep
Lake Town
Thranduil's Palace

Finwe
12-09-2003, 05:18 PM
Dwarves never lived for a long length of time, or were never held captive in Helm's Deep?

or


Dwarves never helped to defend any of the other places, except Helm's Deep.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 6:20 PM December 09, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ]

Gil-Galad
12-09-2003, 05:19 PM
Thranduils palace is only place not used as a refuge

Lindolirian
12-09-2003, 06:36 PM
No and no.

Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
12-11-2003, 04:08 PM
I'll just guess the obvious... Lake Town was not a cave. That is my guess

Lindolirian
12-11-2003, 04:39 PM
Technically not all of Helm's Deep was either, so no.

HINT:
In my criteria for what is in common with the others, the Helm's Deep one is stretching it just a tad bit. (Quick look! I just gave it away the OPO isn't Helm's Deep smilies/wink.gif )

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 9:58 PM December 12, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Gil-Galad
12-12-2003, 07:27 PM
(I think you mean OPO)

NightKnight
12-13-2003, 07:11 AM
Nargothrond wasn't attacked during WotR?

Gil-Galad
12-13-2003, 01:52 PM
(There was no Nargothrond during WotR)


Helms deep was only place where 3 races defended together

Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
12-13-2003, 01:52 PM
Nargothrond did not exist during the third age?

EXIT- Wait, then how is Helms deep stretching it?

Ignore this post, i messed up. smilies/frown.gif

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 2:55 PM December 13, 2003: Message edited by: Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar ]

Lindolirian
12-13-2003, 02:09 PM
OK, I think I'm just gonna take Helm's Deep out since it seems to be confusing you all too much. The NEW list is:

Nargothrond
Lake Town
Thranduil's Palace

and it has little to do with dragons

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 2:03 PM December 14, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Finwe
12-13-2003, 02:45 PM
Lake Town is the only kingdom/principality never ruled by Elves.

Telchar
12-13-2003, 07:27 PM
Thranduils Palace was never attacked by a dragon

Lindolirian
12-14-2003, 01:03 PM
Ok so technically it has just a little bit of something to do with dragons, but ah heck I'll give it to ya. My reason was that They all had a bridge that was destroyed. In my old list Helm's Deep was stretching it because the Deeping Wall "bridged" the stream at the culvert and that part was destroyed. Then the new one was just a litte bit too easy, and I'm counting Dragons because at both Nargothrond and Lake Town the bridges were destroyed even tho Smaug didn't do it to Lake Town. Aye yi yi that was a bit looney. So anyway, if you can't understand anything above, it basically says, "Go, Telchar!"

Telchar
12-14-2003, 04:59 PM
I think this one is a little hard, but you never know smilies/wink.gif

The Tower of Cirith Ungol
Meduseld - NB! Changed from Earlier Barad Eithel.
The Prancing Pony
The House of Tom Bombadil
Bar-en-Danwedh


Sorry, I had to make a slight change...

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 5:12 AM December 15, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Evisse the Blue
12-15-2003, 02:47 AM
An obvious guess: The House of Bombadil is the only safe place, all others are associated with danger / treachery.

Telchar
12-15-2003, 03:54 AM
Could be... thats not it though...

The Tower of Cirith Ungol
Meduseld - NB! Changed from Earlier Barad Eithel.
The Prancing Pony
The House of Tom Bombadil
Bar-en-Danwedh


Sorry, I had to make a slight change...

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 5:13 AM December 15, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Finwe
12-17-2003, 10:51 AM
Bar-en-Danwedh, because Dwarves lived there.

Telchar
12-18-2003, 05:05 PM
nope - 'tis a toughy

Telchar
12-22-2003, 07:46 PM
.... hmmmm if you could only see the light...

Finwe
12-22-2003, 09:15 PM
The Tower of Cirith Ungol, because it was the only place where the light of a Silmaril shone (through the water in Galadriel's Phial, held by Sam).

Telchar
12-23-2003, 03:30 AM
nope - four of them has something that the fifth didnt...

Telchar
12-23-2003, 05:42 PM
But you did well Finwe in picking up un the 'light' hint ... smilies/wink.gif

Finwe
12-23-2003, 08:45 PM
Bar-en-Danwedh, because no hallowed light ever shone there.

Telchar
12-24-2003, 05:46 AM
Nope - and btw how do you define hallowed light in connection to the House of Tom Bombadil and The Prancing Pony ?

Finwe
12-24-2003, 04:08 PM
No idea, it was a wild guess. smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/wink.gif

Telchar
12-27-2003, 08:32 AM
For those who have seen ROK then there is a clue in the scene from The Tower of Cirith Ungol smilies/tongue.gif

Gil-Galad
12-29-2003, 06:06 PM
you mean ROTK right? well, cirith Ungol was the only place that orcs and uruk-hai fought each other...(in movie)

Telchar
12-30-2003, 07:06 AM
... it still has to do with light smilies/wink.gif

Finwe
12-30-2003, 02:21 PM
The Tower of Cirith Ungol, because it was the only place where Sting glowed (Sam had it). Sting was never in any of the other places.

Telchar
12-31-2003, 02:59 AM
nope...

if you want to find the answer - then pick up your books, find the descriptions of the 5 places and find what is concerned with light and how they are lit.... then it will probably be obvious... smilies/wink.gif

Gil-Galad
12-31-2003, 11:22 AM
Meduseld was the golden hall, so i guess the light reflected off all the gold stuff in it...

Finwe
01-01-2004, 12:57 PM
Bar-en-Danwedh, because all the other four were lit by campfires or bonfires at some point.

Telchar
01-05-2004, 01:20 AM
Finwe is beginning to close in... It is concerned with how the places are lit inside - Bar-en-danwed is not it though.

symestreem
01-06-2004, 03:35 PM
Cirith Ungol was lit by torches. Bar-en-Danwedh was lit by lamps. Tom Bombadil's house was lit by a lamp and candles. The Prancing Pony was lit by lamps. Meduseld was lit by sunlight, so that's my anwer: Meduseld had no man-made illumination at the time of its description.

Telchar
01-08-2004, 04:27 PM
Symestream got it more or less... please continue smilies/wink.gif

The precise answer was: Meduseld had no lamps hanging from the celling/roof - all the others had.

symestreem
01-09-2004, 03:47 PM
Please bear with me for a short time while I come up with a decent question. Thanks.