Blue Wizard Quizzes

[gilraën]

When the three kindreds of the elves were gathered in Valinor and Melkor was chained?

[lathspell]

Exactly right, gilraën!!!

[gilraën]

Thank you, I wasn't sure. smilies/smile.gif

Who gave the keys of Orthanc to Saruman?

[Lindolirian]

Boromir I Steward of Gondor.

[gilraën]

Not Boromir.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Steward Beren of Gondor.

[gilraën]

Yes smilies/smile.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

During Tolkien's creative process he changed a lot of the character names repeatedly. What was Merry Brandybuck's first name before it was Meriadoc? (I believe it was the original name for this character.)

Sophia

[gilraën]

Marmaduke? It always reminded me of Marmalade when I read it first. smilies/smile.gif

[Salix]

That would be Kalimac.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Marmaduke it was smilies/smile.gif Kalimac was his name in Westron, I think.

Sophia

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

It's your turn gilraen. *bump*

[gilraën]

What is another name for Laer Cú Beleg ?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

"The Song of the Great Bow". Turin's tribute to Beleg at Eithel Ivrin.

[gilraën]

Yes, your turn smilies/smile.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

What was Bar-en-Danwedh. What does the name mean and why was it called that?

[gilraën]

The House of Ransom, because Turin held Mim to ransom for it?

[lathspell]

Wasn't Kalimac the name of Meriadoc in true hobbitish (Kuduk)?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yes, to Gilraen,

and lathspell- I thought it was Westron (I thought the hobbits spoke Westron as a first language?), but either way, I was looking for the first name Tolkien gave the character while he was writing the story. I'll have to look it up, about the language of 'Kalimac' though.

[gilraën]

I'm sorry, I just realised it was my turn here. smilies/smile.gif

Who did Lily Brown's daughter marry?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Samwise Gamgee! smilies/biggrin.gif

[gilraën]

Yes smilies/smile.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Another thread I've missed and it was my turn all along.

In which poem is there intentional reference to emeralds?

[Lindolirian]

Bilbo's song that he sings for Lindir in Rivendell. Aragorn insists that he adds "something about a green stone." Bilbo did not know why, but it is clearly a reference to the Elessar.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Perfect Lindolirian! smilies/biggrin.gif

Sophia

[Lindolirian]

Where was the House of 100 Chimneys?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Tol Eressëa or do you need me to be more speific(sp?) smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lindolirian]

Good enough!

[elven maiden Earwen]

Thanks.

What tree was found especially on the slopes of mountains and hills?

[gilraën]

Rowans?

[elven maiden Earwen]

correct

[gilraën]

Sorry it took me so long smilies/smile.gif

Who was the Tenth Thain of the Took line?

[vanwalossien]

Isengrim II?

[gilraën]

He sure was smilies/biggrin.gif

Your turn smilies/smile.gif

[vanwalossien]

Which disaster befell Gondor in 2002 T.A.?

[Lindolirian]

Minas Ithil was captured and its palantir was lost to Sauron.

[vanwalossien]

Correct

[Lindolirian]

What was the name of the song Turin made for Strongbow?

[Beren87]

Darn you, you made me look it up.

Laer Cu Beleg, The Song of the Great Bow

[ July 26, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

[Lindolirian]

GASP!!! Call CNN! Beren had to look it up! Well, wonders never cease. smilies/wink.gif

Anyhoo, you got it right. Carry on!

[Beren87]

Hardy Har Har, you just raised the smart-alec level of the room twice-fold.

Anyway, who was King Greymantle?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Elu Thingol?

[Beren87]

That would be the Melian-obsessed person in question.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Does that mean I'm right? smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Beren87]

Er..yeah, it does. =P Although, a little more info would have been nice.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Sorry but all I know is that Singollo which was a old form of Thingol ment greymantle. Greymantle was the literal meaning of the name Thingol.
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What is Grey-elven?

Forever~Earwen

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Sindarin.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Correct

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Explain each short-word component of the name 'Tinuviel'.

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Well, tindome means 'starry twilight' (in Quenya), from which comes 'tindomerel'. In Sindarin this is Tinuviel (-iel being the feminine suffix). The name means "Daughter of Twilight".

Is that thorough enough?

[Estanesse]

Who killed Khim.

[paavo]

Random outlaw?

[Estanesse]

No not a random outlaw ;)

[Firefoot]

It's Andróg!

[Estanesse]

Thumbs up for Firefoot.

[Firefoot]

Thanks.

Which fiddle player plays a tune that would wake the dead?

[Lindolirian]

The ostler's cat in Frodo's rhyme that he sang in Bree.

[Firefoot]

You bet.

[Lindolirian]

How long was Hazad's beard?

[Firefoot]

Five feet long.

[Lindolirian]

Yeah, I wonder how that went over with the ladies? :rolleyes:

[Firefoot]

Sure doesn't sound very attractive...

What significant event is tied to the weakening of the Gondorian guard on Mordor's borders?

[NightKnight]

Wasn't it a plague?

[Firefoot]

Sure was. Your go.

[NightKnight]

How did Anarion die?

[Firefoot]

He was killed in the seige on Barad-dur during the Last Alliance.

[NightKnight]

Yep. Got hit by a rock, he did. Your turn.

[Firefoot]

What was the queerest thing Merry had ever seen in his life?

[mormegil]

It was the Entmoot.

[Firefoot]

You got it.

[mormegil]

The White tree in Minas Tirith died when this Steward died. What is his name?

[Firefoot]

Belecthor II.

[mormegil]

Bravo on the quick answer! (correct of course.)

[Firefoot]

When was the land of the Beornings aflame?

[mormegil]

Do you want a year? If so, that's in 3018. If you want more specifics it is when Frodo sat upon the Seat of Seeing upon Amon Hen with the ring on while trying to escape Boromir.

[Firefoot]

I was looking for the specific. Correct of course, and your turn.

[mormegil]

Manwë loved the Vanyar best and of him they received something that is said to be his delight. What is Manwë's delight?

[Holbytlass]

poetry

[mormegil]

Very good and spot on!

[Holbytlass]

Who is Galmod's child?

[mormegil]

That would be our beloved Grima Womrtongue

[Holbytlass]

Yep, that's correct. Made his daddy proud, didn't he?!

[mormegil]

Who is this verse in reference to and who is being quoted?

An Elven-maid there was of old,
A shining star by day:
Her mantle white was hemmed with gold
Her shoes of silver-gray.

[Firefoot]

Nimrodel, sung by Legolas.

[mormegil]

That is correct my good Firefoot

[Firefoot]

Thank'ee.

List three people who called the Ring "precious."

[mormegil]

Gollum, smeagol :D Bilbo, Sam

[Firefoot]

Not quite. When Sam uses "precious" it is in reference to Gollum's term. I meant three people who use the term precious with respect to themself. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

So Bilbo and Gollum are correct, but still looking for the third.

[mormegil]

Isildur

[Firefoot]

That's the one. I knew you'd figure it out! :)

[mormegil]

How many years after the forth battle was is before Morgoth attacked again?

[Holbytlass]

400 years

[mormegil]

Nope--lower

[Firefoot]

7 years?

[mormegil]

You are correct

[Firefoot]

Who tells Frodo not to travel by night?

[NightKnight]

Gandalf?

[Firefoot]

Yep.

[NightKnight]

What physical harm did Gollum do to Aragorn?

[Firefoot]

He bit him.

[NightKnight]

Yep. Your turn. :)

[Firefoot]

What First Age event is remembered only in tale and not in song?

[mormegil]

I believe that it is the battle of Fingolfin vs. Morgoth. More specifically Fingolfin's death.

[Firefoot]

You believe correctly. :)

[mormegil]

Amon Rudh was situated between which two vales?

[cookieman]

Doriath and Nargothrond?

[mormegil]

Nope. Good guess.

[cookieman]

Sirion and Narog

[mormegil]

There you have it....your turn.

[cookieman]

What is the badge of Finarfin?

[Estanesse]

Do u mean the ring of Barahir??

[mormegil]

Cookieman hasn't been around since Sept and this question is 4 months old I think you could just take the thread and ask a question. :)

[Estanesse]

What is the name of the defence created by Morgoth against Orome?

[Valier]

Do you mean ungoliants darkness or maybe mordor?

[Telchar]

Could be: Hithaeglir - Misty Mountains, raised by Melkor to hinder the riding of Oromë...

[Estanesse]

Yes that’s the answer i was looking for please proceed Telchar

[Telchar]

Among wizards, one rode off as if the Nine were after him, and another rode like a gale... who were they?

[JennyHallu]

Radagast and Gandalf, respectively. I think.

[Telchar]

right you are... :)

[Gil-Galad]

time to bring this thread back to life...


Q: Who Were the Dwarves fighting during the War of the Ring?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Easterlings, who had been sent north to Dale.

[Gil-Galad]

But of course Master Eomer, your turn

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Thank you, good Elvenking.

Who was Wandlimb?

[Gil-Galad]

I am pretty sure he was one of the Ents of Fangorn...

[Thinlómien]

She was an entwife and the beloved of Treebeard.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Lommy is correct. :)

[Thinlómien]

How did Fingon die?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

One of the more horrific parts of the story, for me. He was slain by Gothmog, and hacked and battered into the ground.

[Thinlómien]

Right you are, of course. :)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Who is the Hewer of Caves?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

You mean Finrod Felagund?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

That would be right!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Who was wearing blue hoods, apart from the Blue wizards?

[Dimturiel]

Fili and Kili, right?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Exactly. Your turn now.

[Dimturiel]

All right, so tell me when did Turambar and Niniel get married.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I can't think of a year, but it was Midsummer.

[Dimturiel]

That's what I was looking for. Go on.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Who was Hild?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

You mean the mother of Fréalaf?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Yes, Legate. But if you'd be so kind as to give one more sentence about the significance of Hild and Fréalaf, you may carry the thread. ;)

(Picky, eh? :D )

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Like that she was Helm's sister? And the line from Hild (Fréalaf, later) was the one that continued the line of the kings.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

But of course. Please continue, my fiendish vampire ally. :)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Alright, O Wise Firthhyando... ;)

What about this, a little non-typical: If you were an owner of a tourism agency in the first millenium of the Third Age, what of the following cities would be surely the best choice to present in your catalogue, and why?

Choices: Bree, Calembel, Edoras, Tharbad, Umbar.

Once again: I want reasons as well.

[Gil-Galad]

Well Edoras was fairly New at the beginning of the Third Age... and it also has the Golden Hall recently made so that would defiantely bring tourism up

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

No, not Edoras. You caught into the trap, Gil, because Edoras didn't yet stand at the first millenium of Third Age. And the Golden Hall was finished by Eorl's son Brego in 2569. :)

[Gil-Galad]

Then i could say Umbar, i beleive it was still in Gondors hands and it was a growing port city

i must research on what calembel is

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Then look at it first. But I want a good tip why, you know, the destination must have something special about it, so you'd have to pick the city with the really most, most, most attractive (for ME tourists) things in it, whatever it might be. Big city is nice as well, but it doesn't mean people would find it attractive. I suggest you try to imagine a slogan in the agency's catalogue. "Visit big city!" is certainly nothing much. If you live in Minas Tirith for example, you are in a big city as well.

[Nerwen]

Well, is it Calembel?

"Visit the chief town of Lamedon... close by the famous green fields of Lebennin... watch the sun set blood-red behind the Pinnath Gelin..." Something like that?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

No, it is not Calembel... there is one location that really, ultimately beats the others in the eyes of an early-3rd-age Middle-Earthian...

You only have to figure out why it is (and of course which one it is) ;) And it is more than just blood-red sunset and beautiful fields with streams...

[Nerwen]

In that case is it Umbar? It had that monument to the defeat of Sauron.

It would have to be in the late first millenium, though.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Indeed, it's Umbar. I was really wondering if no one knows about the monument.

It would have to be in the late first millenium, though.

I couldn't have written, of course, "since year XY" because then it would've been obvious. Nevertheless, as long as Umbar was free, it was in my opinion obviously a destination every citizen of Arnor and Gondor must have dreamt of visiting.

You may continue this thread, Nerwen.

[Nerwen]

I'd have guessed Umbar first, only I wasn't sure about the dates.

Who was the father of Roäc?

[The Might]

Cärc or something I think.

[Nerwen]

Yes... but without the umlaut.

Your turn.:)

[The Might]

ORLY?

What was "West-wings"?

[Nerwen]

Aldarion's ship?

(You have me at a disadvantage with UT.)

[The Might]

Yes, although it wasn't originally.

[Nerwen]

Yes, I know it belonged to someone else first, but I can't remember his name.

To what do Orofarnë, Lassemista and Carnimírië refer?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

These were trees (certain ones that used to grow in Fangorn).

[Nerwen]

Yes– specifically, they're poetic names for the rowan.

Your turn.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Aulë, Oromë, Yavanna, Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna), Manwë + Varda (or Irmo).

What am I talking about?

[Nerwen]

Uh... Is Oromë meant to be in there twice?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yes, he is. There is this variant in parentheses behind him. *hint hint*

[Nerwen]

'Nother hint, please.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Oh my, don't tell me no one knows. Had I seen this line of names anywhere, that would be the first to pop up in my mind. It's what I consider a common knowledge among at least middle-Tolkien-educated fans.

The parentheses are variant writings. But even the first three should be obvious.

These are names of Valar, right? And that is all you need to know. Of WHICH Valar?

The placement of the names is based on something, though not necessarily to bother with that for solving the riddle. Because it also could be in different order, depending. Though I believe Aulë should be on the first place.

That was a hint.

[Gwathagor]

Um. In order of power from least to greatest? Maybe?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Nay. Why would Oromë be there twice? And why would there be the parentheses? Btw the fact that Oromë is there twice, or in other words, there are two Oromës (includes hint), could help you if you think about it.

Okay, maybe if I write it another way, it will be more apparent:

1. Aulë
2. Oromë
3. Yavanna
4. Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna)
5. Manwë + Varda (or Irmo)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

*sigh* *eeek* That's just too bad. Reviving this thread if just anybody was in the mood to continue it...

I wonder anyway, if the question I posed was so hard - it's quite simply by itself - you have five names of Valar (or sometimes it's several names at once, but together, the pairs or singles or whatever still make up five), and also the names are chosen from among the Valar in the way that one has to just wonder what connects these Valar?

[Azaghâl]

These are the names of the Valar associated with the five Istari, according to Unfinished Tales.

1. Aulë - Curumo
2. Oromë - Alatar
3. Yavanna - Aiwendil
4. Oromë (or Mandos + Nienna) - Pallando
5. Manwë + Varda (or Irmo) - Olórin

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Very good! You are really good - and lately almost the only one :D - in answering my riddles, Azaghal. Please, could you give us a new riddle then? :)