A New Game!

[gralin musicteeth]

I have a new game!!!! I will ask a series of 10 questions (one at a time), and when someone gets it right, I will give them a point and I will ask another question. After 10 questions whoever has the most points gets to ask the next series of questions. Here is the first one:

1)How many children did Sam and Rose have?

[ December 08, 2002: Message edited by: gralin musicteeth ]

[Raefindel]

Sam and Rose had 13 children.

[gralin musicteeth]

Right! Next question...

2)Where did the Palantiri come from?

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[Pallando B.C]

The Palantiri were made by Fëanor on Eldamar during the Eldar Days. The were given to the Lords of Andunië in Numenor during the Second Age.

[gralin musicteeth]

Wow, this is really catching on! Next!

3)What was the former name of Minas Morgul?

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[the real findorfin]

Minas Ithil! Tower of the Moon!

[Pallando B.C]

Minas Ithil- Darn your to quick for me!

[ December 08, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

[gralin musicteeth]

Tower of the Rising Moon, you mean! Anyways,

4)Who was called "club foot"?

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[Morgoth Bauglir]

sador labadal, one of the people who worked in Hurins house, and friend of Turin when he was young

[Lindolirian]

No, it was Brandir son of Handir of Brethil.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

o noooooo i think ur right. hmm, at least turin was in it lol

[gralin musicteeth]

Yes! Lindolirian has it! Next question:

5)Of what species was Sauron?

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[ December 09, 2002: Message edited by: gralin musicteeth ]

[Pallando B.C]

He was originally a Maia, a servant of Aulë, but he took different forms throughout his life.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

well, everyone always makes a big commotion about maiar and valar because those are "job descriptions" so im gonna say Ainur?

[gralin musicteeth]

Sauron was indeed a Maia, Pallando! way to go
next one!

6)Who were the 2 Elves who tried to persuade Isildur to destroy the Ring??

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[Lady_Báin]

Elrond and Gil-galad?
(i thoguth i would just jump in is that okay?)

[the real findorfin]

Elrond is correct, but Gil-Galad was already dead by then, was it galadriel?

[Diamond18]

Elrond and Círdan.

[gralin musicteeth]

Yes, it was Elrond and Cirdan. And yes Lady_Bain, anyone is free to jump in. The more the merrier! Next!

7)What were the names of the Three, who kept each, and what was each one's stone and element?

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[the real findorfin]

Vilya - Ring of Air - made of gold and has a sapphire - Gil-Galad then to Elrond.

Narya - Ring of Fire - red stone - Cirdan to gandalf - power to strengthen hearts.


nenya - Ring of Water - Mithril with white stone - galadriel.

[LePetitChoux]

Vilya (Gil-Galad's/Elrond's) had a sapphire, Narya (Gandalf's/Cirdan's) had a ruby, and Nenya (Galadriel's) had Adamant. smilies/smile.gif

[gralin musicteeth]

Very good, both of you! the real findorfin got to it first, though, and he said the elements so he gets it. Nice try though, Petit!

8)Who were Lomian's parents, and how did they die?

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[the real findorfin]

Lomion = Maeglin so his parents were Aredhel and Eol. Aredhel died when Eol threw a poison dart at Maeglin and she jumped in the way. Eol's death was soon after as he was thrown from Caragdur on Turgon's orders.

[Beren87]

Hmm...nice way to build up ones posts gralin.. smilies/wink.gif

[gralin musicteeth]

the real findorfin gets it again! Next!

9)What was the name of the Ringwraith that the hobbits met on their way to Crickhollow?

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[the real findorfin]

Khamul, the Easterling I think?

[LePetitChoux]

Wasn't it the witch king? I'm not sure. smilies/confused.gif

[gralin musicteeth]

Again, the real findorfin gets it! last question of my turn!!

10)Which three main hobbits were related to Berylla Boffin?

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[ December 12, 2002: Message edited by: gralin musicteeth ]

[TolkienGurl]

How about... Pippin? I should have brought my books with me! smilies/rolleyes.gif

[LePetitChoux]

Merry, Pippin, Frodo.
Using Common Sense, as Sam wasn't really related to any of them, so it must be those 3. smilies/wink.gif

[TolkienGurl]

Oh, it was asking for 3. Well, I feel DUMB! And I also agree with Petit. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Diamond18]

Well, he really should have asked for 4, since Bilbo is related to her as well. smilies/wink.gif

[ December 12, 2002: Message edited by: Diamond18 ]

[LePetitChoux]

Hear hear! smilies/biggrin.gif

[gralin musicteeth]

The three I was talking about were Pippin, Frodo, and Bilbo, but of course Merry is in there too. So you each get a point.

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So the grand prize winner is......
the real findorfin! with a score of four points, it is now his turn to post the questions!

[the real findorfin]

OK, first question....Do Balrogs have Wings? NOOOO! Only joking.


1)What does the Sindarin word 'Rath' roughly translate to?

[Nurumaiel]

Street, maybe?

~Nurumaiel

[the real findorfin]

Oh Udun!

Maybe a bit too easy. Well done Nuru!

2) What was the emblem of Eregion?

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[Beren87]

The holly tree?

[Pallando B.C]

A Black Serpant?

[the real findorfin]

Beren is close enough, it was Holly.

ok, next question...

3) Which Adan accompanied Turin when he went to slay Glaurung.

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[Pallando B.C]

Orodreth or Gwindor smilies/frown.gif

[Beren87]

Was it Dorlas?

[the real findorfin]

Less obvious...hint: he fell to his death before they reached Glaurung.

[the real findorfin]

Less obvious...hint: he fell to his death before they reached Glaurung.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

hunthor?

[the real findorfin]

Yes, Hunthor is correct.

4) Who or what were the White Company?

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[Pallando B.C]

The personal guard of Faramir, Prince of Ithilien. Inaugurated after the War of the Ring by King Elessar.

[the real findorfin]

Pallando gets it.

5) Name ALL of Ulfang's sons.

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[LePetitChoux]

This is getting very Silmarillion orientated, isn't it? That's not bad, though.

But I feel a bit stupid now, not having read it... http://www.smilies.nl/person/052.gif

[Pallando B.C]

Ulfast, Ulwarth and Uldor the accursed

[the real findorfin]

Pallando is correct again!

6) What was Sam doing when he overheard Frodo and Gandalf talking about the ring?

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[mordor136]

cutting the grass under the window

[the real findorfin]

Yes, that was quite easy (no offence meant) and a useful points ganier, heres a very difficult seventh.

7) Name the five Kings of Numenor that used the Adunaic forms of their name, ie. Ar-......

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[the real findorfin]

Close but not entirely correct, only three of those our right.

Remember, I said 'KINGS'.

[the real findorfin]

Ar-Pharazon, Ar-Gimilzor, Ar-Sakalthor.

Ar-Zimraphel was Ar-Pharazon's wife, and the rightful QUEEN!

Ar-Feiniel was another name of Aredhel.

[the real findorfin]

nope, Ar-Battarik was official named Tar-Ardamin. You've only got one left,come on!

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[the real findorfin]

Yeh, finally got there, well done! smilies/smile.gif

8)Another family tree one...who did Gundor marry?

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[Beren87]

Was it Hareth?

[the real findorfin]

Nope, his brother did though!

[Pallando B.C]

Hmm... Could be a trick question!

He married No-one, since he died in Dagor Bragollach

[ December 19, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

[zacattack]

Gundor married nobody.

[Pallando B.C]

That's what I said, zacattack

[the real findorfin]

Pallando get it again.

9) Where is the entmoot held?

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[TolkienGurl]

The Entmoot was held at Derndingle.

[the real findorfin]

TolkienGurl has it!

10) What name did Gwindor give to Finduilas?

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[TolkienGurl]

... and so greatly did Gwindor love her beauty that he named her Faelivrin, which is the gleam of the sun on the pools of Ivrin.

[the real findorfin]

WOW, ur really on the ball TolkienGurl, pity you didn't join earlier.

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PALLANDO BC is the winner! Take it away...

[Pallando B.C]

Thanks, the real findorfin.

Ok here are my questions,an easy one to start with.

1)Who killed Elwë and why?

[Precioussss]

The Dwarves that Elwe summoned to remake the Nauglamir and put a Silmaril in it wanted the Nauglamir back, and of course Thingol wouldn't give it to them and he scorned them, which made the Dwarves mad. Then they killed him and fled Doriath.

[Pallando B.C]

Correct, Precioussss

2)Why is Quickbeam called Quickbeam?

Precioussss-1

[mordor136]

because he is very hasty for an ent

[Beren87]

Because he once answered an older ents' question before the ent was done asking it, so he was considered hasty.

[Pallando B.C]

Beren87 has it.

mordor136 you needed a bit more information.

3)What did Sam name his first-born after?

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[zacattack]

His firstborn was Elanor and it was named after a beautiful flower Sam and Frodo had seen on their journeys

[Pallando B.C]

Well Done, zacattack.

Ok, lets get a tiny bit harder.

4)What is the last day of the Elvish Calander?

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[Aylwen Dreamsong]

Mettarë, the day immediately after the 'season' of coirë.

Aylwen

[Pallando B.C]

Aylwen is correct.

5)Where did Olórin go while on Aman, to learn pity and patience?

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[Beren87]

The House of Nienna.

[Pallando B.C]

Beren87 has taken the lead, with a correct answer.

6) Who grieved and who was glad when Manwë proclaimed that they, (The Valar) should take up the mastery of Arda, and deliver the Quendi from the shadow of Melkor?

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[Morgoth Bauglir]

aule was glad and ulmo greived?

[Precioussss]

Mandos grieved and Earendil was glad?

[Beren87]

Tulkas was glad, but Aule greived.

[Pallando B.C]

Once again Beren87 is supreme.

7) What deed did Húrin perform to 'fulfill' his fate?

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[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

[Beren87]

Giving the necklace of the dwarves to Melian.

[Pallando B.C]

Bere87 once again comes out smelling like a rose!

8)How many times did Galadriel and Celeborn return to Lórien before the Last Alliance?

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[Beren87]

haha, a rose...interesting.


once?

[ December 23, 2002: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

[Pallando B.C]

Wow!, for once your incorrect Beren.

[ December 23, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

[LePetitChoux]

twice?

[Pallando B.C]

Had to be the next one. Correct LePetitChoux.

9)How many years did Elros NOT rule Númenor (in his lifetime)

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[Beren87]

I believe it was 90 years.

And on that last question i just guessed lol, so its no suprise i got it wrong. I dont know quite everything.

[Pallando B.C]

I said that because you were clearly leading this Game and 'on a roll'.
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Last Question

10)What Dwarf of Erebor died in the 2989 Third Age and was buried near Lake Kheled-zâram. Tell me the circumstances of how he died and what he was doing.


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[TolkienGurl]

Flói was killed by an arrow while fighting under the bright sun in the dale outside the eastern gate of Moria. He slew the great (probably referring to a great Orc chieftain).

[Pallando B.C]

Well Done TolkienGurl, pity you didn't start ealier.

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Beren87 is the Winner, take it away......

[Beren87]

lovely!

1.What tengwa was used to indicate east commonly?

[TolkienGurl]

romen

[Beren87]

Good job! and here I thought I made up a difficult one.

2. What did Thingol forbid the use of in his Kingdom?

Tolkiengurl-1

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

He forbid that Quenya be spoken for it was the tongue of the Noldor.

[Beren87]

correct!

3.Who brought the shards of Narsil to Imaldris?

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[LePetitChoux]

Aragorn's mum...Gilraen? smilies/confused.gif

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Or would it be Ohtar?

[Beren87]

Yes! Thengise is correct.

4.How was Maedhros captured?

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Thengise -2

[TolkienGurl]

He was ambushed by Morgoth's forces. All his company was slain, but he was taken alive and brought to Angband.

[ January 09, 2003: Message edited by: TolkienGurl ]

[Beren87]

Haha, no Tolkiengurl, thats quite enough.

5.What servant of Sauron mite also have been a Gûl?

Tolkiengurl-2
Thengise-2

[ December 27, 2002: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

The Nazgul?

[Beren87]

lol, that was too easy, i meant to say besides the Nazgul....

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Umm... might you mean the werewolves of Tol-in-Gaurhoth?

[Beren87]

YES! you are extremely correct.

6.Which of the 3 "old Ents" had grown "tree-ish" by the end of the Third Age?

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[ December 29, 2002: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

[tom bombariffic]

Im almost certain this is wrong(!), but if Old Man Willow was an ent, I would say him.
Hoom Hoom, i feel stupid now.

[tom bombariffic]

NO wait, hang on - was it leaflock?

[Beren87]

Finglas or "leaflock" yes.

7.What was the office and title of the Mayor of Michel Delving?

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[tom bombariffic]

He was the mayor of the shire's main town, Michel Delving, and later on was basically the mayor of the shire. Is that all you needed? didnt get the question...

[Beren87]

Let me phrase it diferently, what "organization" was he the head of?

[TolkienGurl]

The Shirriffs and the Messenger Service.

[Beren87]

And Tolkiengurl takes the lead!

8.Where was the first house of Edain established?

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[TolkienGurl]

This is a complete guess: Estolad, the Encampment?

[Beren87]

Either Estolad or Dorthonion would have worked, so you are correct! (and its seeminly a question as to when are you not?)

9.What did the guards of the Citadel wear?


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[King Turgon]

If you mean the Tower guards of Minas Tirith then a hauberk high crowned helm with small raveb wings on eather sidessurcoat embordered with a white tree

[Beren87]

Wonderful job King Turgon, you beat Tolkiengurl to the answer.

10.What did the Noldor make from Mithril?

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[King Turgon]

Nenya?

[Beren87]

A possible answer, but im looking for a certain substance not an item.

[King Turgon]

Adamant

[ January 01, 2003: Message edited by: King Turgon ]

Edit: I got it off a website about the rings of power. Thats what it said Nenya was made of. It was just a guess.

[ January 01, 2003: Message edited by: King Turgon ]

[Beren87]

I have no idea what that is, but its not the answer.

[hobbitlass]

Is it ithildin, like what the door of Durin is made of/

[Beren87]

Yes hobbitlass! THAT was the answer I was looking for. And at the end, the scores seem to be:
Thengise-2
Tolkiengurl-4
tom bombariffic-1
King Turgon-1
Hobbitlass-1

Which means that Tolkiengurl is the winner! smilies/biggrin.gif

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Hey Congratulations Tolkiengurl!

Oh and didn't I have 3 right? Oh well...

[TolkienGurl]

Alright, here's question number 1. There are two parts:

Whom did Thingol reward with fair pearls?
Where did these pearls come from?

Might be too easy...

[Beren87]

The Dwarves of Belegost, and (this one i had to look up) from Cirdan.

[TolkienGurl]

Great!

At the time of the War of the Ring, this Man was a ruler. He was known as 'the Old' and also 'the Fat.' He aided in the Siege of Minas Tirith, but was cut down on the Pelennor Fields. Who was he and what country did he rule?

Beren87: 1

[Mandos]

Forlong, the Lord of Lossarrnach

[TolkienGurl]

That is correct!

Question #3-
Who revealed information about Gondolin to Morgoth?

Beren87: 1
Mandos: 1

Sorry it took me so long. I've been sick.

[Russandol]

That would be Maeglin.

[TolkienGurl]

Correct!

Question #4
Trahald and Nahald are different versions of what two names? What do they mean?

Beren87: 1
Mandos: 1
Russandol: 1

[ January 08, 2003: Message edited by: TolkienGurl ]

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Trahald was another name for Gollum. It meant 'burrowing'.

Nahald was another name for Deagol. It meant 'secret'.

[TolkienGurl]

Your are correct, Thengise. Wow! That was fast!

Question #5
What are the Quenya words for west, south, and north? (east has been asked before)

Beren87: 1
Mandos: 1
Russandol: 1
Thengise Greenleaf: 1

[Beren87]

North-formen or forte
South-hyarmen
West-nuume or nuumen

[TolkienGurl]

You're right! smilies/smile.gif

Question #6
What is the full title written by Frodo on the title page of the Red Book of Westmarch?

Beren87: 2
Mandos: 1
Russandol: 1
Thengise: 1

[Russandol]

THE DOWNFALL OF THE LORD OF THE RINGS AND THE RETURN OF THE KING

(as seen by the Little People; being the memoirs of Bilbo and Frodo of the Shire, supplemented by the accounts of their friends and the learning of the Wise.)

Together with extracts from Books of Lore translated by Bilbo in Rivendell.

[TolkienGurl]

Yep!

Question #7
'Here is a pretty toy for Tom and his lady!' What was it?

Beren87: 2
Mandos: 1
Russandol: 2
Thengise: 1

[Russandol]

A brooch set with blue stones from the barrow treasure

[TolkienGurl]

Correct, O ever-wise Russandol! smilies/wink.gif

Question #8
Who were the Lossoth said to be decendents of?

Beren87: 2
Mandos: 1
Russandol: 3
Thengise: 1

[Beren87]

Said to be the decendants of Forodwaith.

[TolkienGurl]

Yes Beren. You're right!

Question #9
What in Middle-earth are Hummerhorns?

Beren87: 3
Mandos: 1
Russandol: 3
Thengise: 1

[Beren87]

Wootcha, Russandol isn't going to beat me.

Hummerhorns-A probably fictitous insect race fought by the messanger in Bilbo Baggin's poem Errantry.

[TolkienGurl]

That was fast!

Question #10 LAST QUESTION!!!
In what year and what age did Ar-Adûnakhôr take the sceptre?

Beren87: 4
Mandos: 1
Russandol: 3
Thengise: 1

[Iarwain]

2899 Second Age

[TolkienGurl]

Correct! And that means... *drums*

BEREN87 IS THE WINNER!

Yay! smilies/smile.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/smile.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/smile.gif

Final Score:
Beren87- 4
Mandos- 1
Russandol- 3
Thengise- 1
Iarwain- 1

[Beren87]

Allright!

1.What 3 leaders routed the armies of the Witch-king in the battle of Fornost?

[Pallando B.C]

Was it Círdan of Lindon, Eärnur of Gondor and Glorfindel of Rivendell?

[Beren87]

That it would be!

2.Who gave Maeglin his name?

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[Pallando B.C]

It was his Father, Eöl. He didn't get the name until he was twelve i think.

[ January 11, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

[Beren87]

Correct! And thank you for providing the signifigance of the question.

3.What was located in the crater of Mount Doom?

Pallando B.C-2

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Erm...the Sammath Naur?

[Beren87]

Thats right Thengise.

4.In what dates were the two main battles with Easterlings on Dagorlad?


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[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

I think the two dates are 1899 and 1944. I believe it was in the third age....

[Beren87]

Correct once again Thengise!

5.Who was the most powerful northern prince of TA 13th century?


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Thengise-2

[Pallando B.C]

King Argeleb I? Or maybe Atanatar Alcarin.
Not sure on this one, but I must keep up my pace, since Thengise is snapping at my heals.

[ January 11, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

[Beren87]

Aye, seems I've stumped ye for once. Both of those are incorrect but good guesses.

[Pallando B.C]

You have stumped me. smilies/mad.gif

Two more;

- King Arveleg
- Or simply the Wraith of Angmar

Thanks, Beren you have made me resort to un-educated guesses.

[Beren87]

Ah, no and no.

Hint: He aided a Gondorian King in a great victory of the Easterlings

[Beren87]

Welp, it looks as though no one is going to get it. So i'll give the answer, it was Vidugavia.

6.Who else did the mithril-vein of Kazad-dum draw to Eregoin, (besides the dwarves)?

Pallando B.C-2
Thengise-2

[Manardariel]

Can I join?

It was the elves, I think.

[Beren87]

Hmm, no it wasn't. At least, not that I know of. I am looking for a certain people and who they were led by.

[Iarwain]

The remaining Noldor, led by Celebrimbor

[Beren87]

Correct!

7.Where was the dwelling of the King of the Eagles in the Third Age?

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Iarwain-1

[Pallando B.C]

If you were looking for a specific answer, I have not got one for you Beren. All I know is that Gwaihir dwelt upon the peaks of the Misty Mountains.

Enough?

[ January 17, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

[Beren87]

There is a specific word for his "home".., if no one gets it in the next 2 guesses, I'll give it to Pallando.

[the real findorfin]

eyrie (sp), that is the name of an eagles home, but did you want a name (ie. Mine = Moria)

[hobbitlass]

In 'The Hobbit' the name Great Shelf was said. That's where the eagles took the dwarves, Bilbo and Gandalf to speak with the Lord of the eagles.

[Beren87]

THAT was what I was looking for hobbitlass! correct!

8.What was the most renowned of the works of the Dwarves of the first Age?


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Thengise-2
Iarwain-1
hobbitlass-1

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

I'll take a stab at this, but I believe it was the Nauglamir. 'The necklace of the dwarves' I think.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

*bumps it to the top* Erm was that right? ^^

[Beren87]

Oy, sorry Dennise, forgot about this thread.

Your correct!

9.Who fostered Elros and Elrond after the destruction of the Havens of Sirion?

Pallando B.C-2
Thengise-3
Iarwain-1
hobbitlass-1

And Thengise pulls ahead!

[Morgoth Bauglir]

oh noooooooo...

celegorm and curufin?

[Beren87]

Nope. And please think about capitalization.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Quite alright Matt! Umm...I believe the answer to your question is Maglor.

[Beren87]

Woops, didn't even notice that I used your name. Thengise and Dennise do rhyme after all. Anyway, your correct. (Which already means you won, but I get to ask 10 questions here)

10.By what two other names does the "Secret Fire" go by? (losely perhaps, but they are considered synonyms.)

Pallando B.C-2
Thengise-4
Iarwain-1
hobbitlass-1

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

I don't mind Beren, but let me correct the spelling of my name: Denisse. Sorry, I just had to put it right.

Oh and I believe that the two names are 'the flame of Anor' and perhaps 'the Flame Imperishable'(could be wrong...)

[Beren87]

Ah, not only did I accidently call you it, I couldn't even spell it right. smilies/rolleyes.gif

And, you may also be right! So...as I look at the scores I see, with a total of 5 that the winner is....

THENGISE!

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

YAY!!! *Jumps around the thread*

Oh but I must say that if you think Thengise and Denisse rhyme, then you're not pronouncing Thengise right.

Thengise(then-gi-se) [gi is pronounced like the 'gi' in give and se is pronounced like the 'se' in sent]

I know, I know confusing. I guess I'd have to put one of those sound bites, so you can click on my name and hear me say it. LoL! So the truth is: not only did you say my name and not spell it right, but you also weren't pronouncing Thengise right. Hey but it's all good. smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/tongue.gif

Anywayz...

1. What did the hobbits call themselves during the war of the ring?

[zacattack]

Could they have called themselves Halflings.

[Pallando B.C]

Shirefolk.

[the real findorfin]

Hobbits!?!?

[Sindae]

Periain? at least in Gondor they were called like this.

[Beren87]

Little Folk? Little People?

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Wow, I've never been good with questions, but I must say that you are all wrong.

Here's a very small hint: the word means 'hole-dwellers or in other words hobbits' Not much of a clue, but I don't want to give it away...not yet at least.

[Beren87]

holbytla? kuduk?

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Yay!! Beren87 is correct. They called themselves Kuduk.

2. Khazad-Dum was delved under what three mountains?

Beren87-1

[zacattack]

Caradhras,Redhorn and Silvertine

[alaklondewen]

Caradhras is Redhorn.

They are Caradhras, Celebdil, and Fanuidhol.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

That's right alaklondewen!

3. Who led the Nandor, leaving the Great Journey and moving south?

Beren87-1
alaklondewen-1

[Pallando B.C]

Denethor, son of Lenwë.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

No, not Denethor...

[Pallando B.C]

Opps sorry, It was Lenwë

[Ultimatejoe]

Umm, the Flame Imperishable and the Flame of Anor are not the same. The "Flame Imperishable" is the spirit of creation of Illuvatar. The Flame of Anor is the ring that Gandalf wields.

[Beren87]

No, Ujoe, the Flame of Arnor is Gandalf's power. He is a servant of the secret fire, and a weilder of the Flame of Arnor. He both serves and weilds the power. The ring of Gandalf was Narya, which was not his true power as a miar. It is speculated the Flame of Arnor is an allusion to the white light of the sun as a symbol of the secret fire. While it is no means certain, they are generally used as the same thing.

[Ultimatejoe]

10.By what two other names does the "Secret Fire" go by? (losely perhaps, but they are considered synonyms.)

You're still referring to two distinct things then. I've never heard of "The Flame of Arnor" as being an allusion to the sun; but even if that were true then you're drawing a false connection.

A=Flame of Arnor
B=The Sun
C=Flame Imperishable

If A is an allusion to B, and B is a symbol for C, then A is NOT a name for C.

[Beren87]

The Flame Imperishable is the creating energy. The 'divine' energy of ME. Think of it as the force, and Gandalf simply tapping into it, that is how he weilded the Flame of Arnor, i.e. the Flame Imperishable. Flame Imperishable is what is used to create ME and everything in it.

[ January 23, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

[Ultimatejoe]

I know what the Flame Imperishable is... I just think calling the "Flame of Arnor" a synonym for said force is dead wrong. See my previous post.

[Beren87]

Oh, I can see your point, as it is really a matter of opinion. Tolkien never explained what exactly it was, so its just how you interpret it. I was going more by Robert Foster's interpretation than anything else.

[alaklondewen]

We are still waiting for a confirmation on question 3.

[Beren87]

Yes, I erm..reminded Thengise, but she doesn't seem to have gotten around to it as she has been busy as of late.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Ack! I'm so sorry! I've been really busy lately, considering the fact I'm not supposed to be on the computer. Oh and thanks Beren for reminding me.

Yes, Pallando B.C you are correct!

4. What is the name of Earendil as a star?

Beren87-1
alaklondewen-1
Pallando B.C-1

[Russandol]

Gil-Estel - The Star of High Hope

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

I suppose, but that's not the answer I'm looking for...

[Pallando B.C]

The Morning Star perhaps?

[alaklondewen]

How about the Evening Star?

[Russandol]

So am I right, or are you looking for something more specific? Could we have a clue if that is so?

[Beren87]

I'm no longer ansering on this thread, as I've gone too many times already. She's looking for the Quenya name.

[Pallando B.C]

I elen estelo, then?

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Nope, still not it...

Oh and 'I elen estelo' I believe is Sindarin not Quenya.

[Pallando B.C]

Hint perhaps? Or on to the next question?

[gralin musicteeth]

please.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Sorry everyone about the wait. Hmm...well since no one got it, I'm just going to move on to the next question. Oh and the answer was the Flammifer of Westernesse.

5.Who was the first ruling steward of Gondor?

Beren87-1
alaklondewen-1
Pallando B.C-1

[Ultimatejoe]

Mardil Voronwe was the first person to bear the title of Ruling Steward, if that's what you mean.

[Pallando B.C]

This thread needs you to update frequently, Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood. Please keep up!

[Pallando B.C]

I call for a new set of questions (by someone other then Thengise). Anyone second this?

[Gil-Galad]

me beacuse i wanna join in and wasn't Elronds borther that was first king of Numenor? just checking smilies/eek.gif smilies/tongue.gif

[alaklondewen]

I'll take it since I was one of the three in first place. Gil-Galad, please feel free to jump in any time and answer.

1) What was the name Aulë gave the Dwarves at their creation?

[Beren87]

The Khazad.

[alaklondewen]

Yes.

2) How many people in Middle Earth were named Denethor? Give me Ages and Races please.

Score:
Beren87 - 1

[Pallando B.C]

Denethor, Son of Lenwë. Leader of the Nandorin Elves in the First Age.

Denethor I, the Tenth Ruling Steward of Gondor. Obviously a Man in the Third Age Age.

Denethor II, the Twenty-sixth and last Ruling Steward of Gondor. A (foolish) Man of the Third Age.

[alaklondewen]

Good job!

3) What peak in the White Mountains forms the northern wall of the Hold of Dunharrow?

Beren87 - 1
Pallando B.C - 1

[Pallando B.C]

I remember asking the very same question in Geography Grilling a while back.

Irensaga was my answer then.

[alaklondewen]

That's interesting, Pallando B.C, because I don't think I've ever been on that thread. My best is not geography, so it was not intentional.

4) What small flower grew in the fields of Lebennin?


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Pallando B.C - 2

[Pallando B.C]

I didn't mean it in that way smilies/smile.gif

Is the answer Alfirin.

[alaklondewen]

Well done, Pallando. It looks like it's just you and me in this game.

5) Who were the sons of Ulfang the Black?

Score:
Pallando B.C - 3
Beren87 - 1

[Pallando B.C]

Haha, looks like it.

Ulfast, Ulwarth, and Uldor

[alaklondewen]

Right!

6) What did Morgoth give to Ungoliant after their return to Middle Earth?

Score:
Pallando B.C - 4
Beren87 - 1

[Pallando B.C]

Nothing.

Melkor had promised the Silmarils to Ungoliant, but never inteded to give them to her.

[alaklondewen]

He did give her something(s), for she said that he gave to her with one hand only.

[Beren87]

All of the gems that he stole from Formenos.

[alaklondewen]

Yes!

7) What year was the Battle of Greenfields?

Score:
Pallando B.C - 4
Beren87 - 2

[ February 23, 2003: Message edited by: alaklondewen ]

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

The Battle of Greenfields was in the year 1147.

[ February 24, 2003: Message edited by: Horse-Maiden of the Shire ]

[alaklondewen]

Right! I like your new avatar, Horse-Maiden, but I'm sad to see the eye go.

8) What was the Elvish name for Saruman?


Score:
Pallando B.C - 4
Beren87 - 2
Horse-Maiden of the Shire - 1

[gralin musicteeth]

Curunir!! I think that's it...

[alaklondewen]

You think right, gralin.

9) Who is rumored to have been buried in the barrow the hobbits were trapped in?

Score:
Pallando B.C - 4
Beren87 - 2
Horse-Maiden of the Shire - 1
gralin musicteeth - 1

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

I tried to get the eye back, but it wouldn't let me! smilies/frown.gif
Uh, the King of Carn Dum?

I want my eye! LOL!

[alaklondewen]

I will accept that.

10) What were the names of the Towers of Teeth?

Score:
Pallando B.C - 4
Beren87 - 2
Horse-Maiden of the Shire - 2
gralin musicteeth - 1

[Annunfuiniel]

Carchost and Narchost?
And btw. it's your turn in Words in Words, alaklondewen. smilies/smile.gif

[ February 27, 2003: Message edited by: Annunfuiniel ]

[alaklondewen]

You're right! And thanks for the reminder.

And the winner is..(insert drumroll).....

PALLANDO B.C!!! smilies/smile.gif

[Pallando B.C]

*cheers for Pallando B.C*

Thank You, Thank You.

Sorry I took so long to start up this new game. Good things come to those who wait Eh?

Ok first Question.

1) Who was the only mariner to survive from the ships sent to sail into the West after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad?

[alaklondewen]

That would be Voronwë.

[Pallando B.C]

Of course!

2)If I looked up at Wilwarin, what would I say it meant in Quenya?

[alaklondewen]

Wilwarin is a constellation, is it not? Meaning 'butterfly'? I don't know if that's what you are looking for.

[Pallando B.C]

Yes, I was looking for that. Well Done alaklondewen.

3) What date (in our calander) did Sam and Rose marry?

alaklondewen ->2

[alaklondewen]

May 1st?

[Pallando B.C]

Hmm, this senario seems familiar. smilies/biggrin.gif . Correct

4) Who's uncle shares a name with a popular senior citizens game?

alaklondewen ->3

[Tar-Palantir]

If the answer is Pippin I'm gonna chuckle Cause I don't think Polo is a senior citizen's game! But it's all I could think of.

[alaklondewen]

No, not Pippin...Bilbo! One of his uncle's was Bingo Baggins. Okay, I'll give others a chance now on the next questions.

[Pallando B.C]

How thoughtful!

5)Who did Gollum say he had got the ring of?

alaklondewen ->4