A idea about the "fangirl" Problem we've been having

[Kithrèna Greenarrow Legolas]

I have been thinking recently about the Quote-Unquote "Fangirl" Problem we've been having. Mods have been having a time trying to keep things sorted out (Anyone remember that "Why do YOU like Legolas" Thread?) and some members are growing irritated with them.
I THINK I have found a salutation. I speak as one of the Legolas-lusters that you'll never clear us out and if you try to suppress us, you'll loose popularity quickly.
Now, anyone knows that if steam builds up, its bound to let itself out somewhere and I've been thinking that perhaps we should make a fourm for these girls (Myself included) to let their steam out in....Yes, thats right, a "Swooning" Fourm.
I personally belong to another fourm where they have a swooning fourm and thats where all the "ORLI TAKE ME NOW!!" and "ELIJAH I LOVE YOU!!!" posts go to, instead of all the other fourms, cluttering the entire site up. And members who dont like the swooning aspect have a choice of going or not going, instead of facing it in fourms they DO go into.
I apologize if a thread like this has been posted before, but I just had to voice My opinion.
Now, if you DO consider this but can find no one to MOD it, I'd be happy to, although I BEG you to look into all other possibilities before choosing Me. I once MODed a Swoon fourm and I dont think I was worth My salt there. But if no one else will take the part, I will, and thats IF you decide to go ahead with this idea.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and please know that I would not have posted it if I didnt think it would be of help to all you MODs.

[Marileangorifurnimaluim]

Salutations! The only problem with that is to be fair we would have to make a 'fanboy' ('fanman'?) forum as well, to praise Liv Tyler's lips, her legs, her... uh well, moving right along. You get the idea. Whenever I need to let off steam I go into chat and hit on bawdy Rimbaud. smilies/wink.gif

-Maril

[Kithrèna Greenarrow Legolas]

I ment that fourm to be for BOTH sexs, Sir smilies/smile.gif

[Dwarin Thunderhammer]

Welcome to the downs Kithrena! Glad to have you. While there has been an invasion of young ladies who are fans of the actors as of late the problem is not new. "Fangirls" as you put it started coming roughly about 10 months ago. We've managed to keep a fair amount of order and popularity since then and I am confident we will continue to do so.

The downs is a place for Tolkien discussion. Many many "fangirls" have come and gone since the movie. We have sort of a trickle down effect. Many many "fangirls" leave while a few stick around for serious discussion. While the movie is discussed here swooning really doesn't contribute much to those who want to discuss the books on a different level.

By creating a "swoon" forum we would change the atmosphere of this board. Yes, more of the "fangirls" would stick around but I don't think that's the kind of popularity the Administrators of this site seek. It would be counter productive.

Note: I am not an admistrator or mod of this site. Nor do I represent them in any way. All the contents of this post are personal opinion based on my experiences on this forum/site.

P.s. I believe Maril is a Ma'am

[Elenna]

Isn't Maril a lady?

Anyway, Kithrena, the problem with creating a "swoon" forum would be this: it would seem like the admins are SUPPORTING that kind of frivolous discussion. While they (and we smilies/rolleyes.gif ) put up with it, it really isn't what this forum was created for.

Plus, fangirls come and fangirls go. A few stick around, but for most, a couple of posts and they vanish. Probably not worth it to make a forum if they're going to leave anyway, eh?

[Birdland]

I speak as one of the Legolas-lusters that you'll never clear us out and if you try to suppress us, you'll loose popularity quickly.
Ooooooh, does this mean you'll snub us in study hall? smilies/rolleyes.gif

I got an idea: why don't you start your own web site with your own "swoon room", and take it on down the road?

[Rimbaud]

Bawdy!?!?!?

I am a polite and mannered member of this society, never wont to express my opinion in anything less than the most subtle verbal couchings. You, ma'am, are heading the right way for some punishment.

Out of interest, this propounded Vomitarium of an extra Forum...we'd be allowed to swoon about members here as well as characters/actors, right?

smilies/wink.gif

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

we'd be allowed to swoon about members here as well as characters/actors, right?

I cannot express how sincerely I hope not.

[Rimbaud]

Squatter, lest ye mistake my zest for getting jest off my chest as what I think best, let me inform ye, good sir, that the poke was a joke, just humourous smoke wafted at the good folk, a jocular croak, if you will.

[Mister Underhill]

Besides, you can already swoon over Squatter's Middle-earth-ish tresses right here in the BD forum.

[Marileangorifurnimaluim]

Well now, how does this idea strike everyone? - With a dull thud, if I may say so, Tyson.

Indeed I am most definately a ma'am, though not always a lady. smilies/wink.gif And I thought that would get a rise out of you, Rim-boy. I'm a sassy miss. How could I resist? Or cease and desist?

No, Squatter, we already have a thread dedicated to commenting on eachother. And you look quite dapper in that hat, by-the-bye.

My dear, I always assume that Legolusting and Frodopalsy are temporary conditions, and most of the fangirls will stay for the fine intellectual discourse.

But if we do start a "swoon" forum, might I request the inclusion of Slash fiction? smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/evil.gif

-Ms. Maril

[Rimbaud]

And I thought that would get a rise out of you, Rim-boy.

Bawdy bordering on the scandalous. Sassy indeed. And Squatter wants to be known for his mind, not his hair. He phoned me from the salon to tell me.

[ October 14, 2002: Message edited by: Rimbaud ]

[Bêthberry]

But if we do start a "swoon" forum, might I request the inclusion of Slash fiction?


Consummations devoutly to be denied, I would hope.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Jealousy will get you nowhere, lads; I bet no-one ever calls you "dapper". All the same I'd like the fan mail not to exceed two sacks this week.

Thanks, Maril; I like that hat too.

[VanimaEdhel]

Kithrena: first of all: welcome! I hope you find this site to be all you hoped it to be! Happy death!

Secondly: I'm sure there are many boards for the specific actors/characters out there. I know that the characters actually do have their own sites, because I stumbled upon a few of them, and the actors certainly do. Wouldn't that be a better place post on for that topic?

And, I did once happen upon a Forum that had a "Drool Room" of sorts, and it was kind of...erm...bad. I mean, I think it destroys the entire point of this board, personally. I mean: you can look for the site if you want (before posting this, I took about 15 minutes trying to find it again, but failed).

Also: about the Slash, while I don't personally find it either offensive or amusing, many people find it the first, so: I highly doubt that they would have Slash Fanfiction on this site anywhere. Also: you do not know how young some of the people here might be.

And, the moderators moderate so much already and the rooms are getting so crowded that I do not think the site could really deal with that kind of mass drooling at once. I mean: they already started closing topics and they deleted many Freestyle RPG's to make room, I believe. And, it would be hard to moderate the room in general because of the kind of people the room would attract.

Also: Kithrena: while you seem willing to "share" your love for Orlando Bloom, there are many, many people who are not. I once, when asked what I thought of Orlando Bloom in the movie, replied "I thought he made a really good Legolas!" and was met with "Uh-uh! Hands off! He's mine girlie!" Yes: I know: delusional, obsessive, pathetic were all words that popped into my mind too...but: they would probably happen upon the site too, and then they would probably contribute to the other topics and...well...okay: I'll stop complaining about what would happen now...gee: and when I first read that, I thought "hmmm: that might be a good idea...". I have to stop thinking so much... smilies/cool.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif

[ October 14, 2002: Message edited by: VanimaEdhel ]

[Elenna]

Ick - the very thought of a "Swoon Room" makes me want to use some very unladylike language.

And Maril, I thought "lady" a better noun than "chick". I too am a Miss, but 9 times out of 10 not a lady in the mannerly sense of the word.

I have friends who do the Orlie swooning thing, and they apparently find it very hard to keep their conversations G-rated, or even PG rated. Ewww! A whole forum of people talking about THAT???? Orlando Bloom would never come out of his house again!

[VanimaEdhel]

I have friends who do the Orlie swooning thing, and they apparently find it very hard to keep their conversations G-rated, or even PG rated. Ewww! A whole forum of people talking about THAT???? Orlando Bloom would never come out of his house again!

You are 100% correct, Elenna! All the ones that I have known could not do that either.

Well, not sure Orlando Bloom would ever know, being that he is apparently some sort of technophobe. I feel his pain. This whole "Internet" thing scares me to death...I am surprised I get this far.

And "unladylike" words did come to my mind too, Elenna, and I, too, had to restrict my post greatly from what I felt like saying about the concept of "Slash Fanfiction". Buuut, we are supposed to be nice on here, so, while I said that I do not like it and I do not hate it, I had many words about what I thought of the general idea of a board for slash fanfiction.

[Marileangorifurnimaluim]

Squatter, charmed I'm sure. smilies/smile.gif

Bethberry, I think Goldwine aka "Hot Chick" has the copyright to the title Chick TM.

Van, I was as kidding about the slash as I was about encouraging a "swoon room." That was the, uh, point of the joke. Van, you have no idea how many conservative Christians there are on this site. Including a certain breed of offensive newbies I like to hunt for sport. They would go apesh-... bananas. Which is kinda why I'd like to see it, heh. But I don't think BW would go through all that, just to entertain little ol' me.

-Maril

[NazgulNumberTen]

there is only one way to stop the fangirl problem.
(loads gun)
anyone know where orli lives?

[Arwen Imladris]

there is only one way to stop the fangirl problem.
(loads gun)
anyone know where orli lives?

Just don't say that at an airport!

Even if you killed orli, there would still be pictures!

There would probebly be more hype about him, he would be a martyr.

[NazgulNumberTen]

(buys extra ammo)
fine. ill have to hunt down the fangirls too.
...one man against the world...

[NazgulNumberTen]

we'd be allowed to swoon about members here as well as characters/actors, right?
great, another forum i will never even be mentioned in.

[Arwen Imladris]

Ah, the start of WW3. *sighs a exasperated sigh* boys! smilies/rolleyes.gif when will they ever learn?

[NazgulNumberTen]

face it, us guys still live in the stone age.
...need women
...he got women
...me pump his guts full of lead
...me get women
simple, eh?

[Lush]

Honestly, do you all know what the real problem with the fangirls is? It's not the swooning, it's the style (or lack thereof) of swooning.

Dear girls, you give proper wenches such as myself a bad name.


I speak as one of the Legolas-lusters that you'll never clear us out and if you try to suppress us, you'll loose popularity quickly.

Of course, dear. We would never clear you out. Age, or a new hottie will take care of that.

Out of interest, this propounded Vomitarium of an extra Forum...we'd be allowed to swoon about members here as well as characters/actors, right?

Ooh la la, Rimbaud, don't you tempt me!

Van, you have no idea how many conservative Christians there are on this site. Including a certain breed of offensive newbies I like to hunt for sport. They would go apesh-... bananas. Which is kinda why I'd like to see it, heh. But I don't think BW would go through all that, just to entertain little ol' me.

Maril oh Maril, I always suspected you were into the blood-sports...

[Elrian]

I speak as one of the Legolas-lusters that you'll never clear us out and if you try to suppress us, you'll loose popularity quickly.
Popularity isn't the main thing here smilies/rolleyes.gif , Tolkien based discussions are. smilies/tongue.gif

[Kithrèna Greenarrow Legolas]

anyone know where orli lives?

I am sorry. I didnt know that this would be a bad idea...It was just a idea. I was only trying to help.
Please forgive Me smilies/frown.gif

Also, I didn't know Marileangorifurnimaluim was a girl! I allways think people on the net are guys unless the persons name is female...Thats why I chose a girlsish name smilies/smile.gif
PLEASE FORGIVE ME!

smilies/frown.gif Seems like this post was realy bad jelly....SORRY!!!!

[ October 15, 2002: Message edited by: Kithrèna Greenarrow Legolas ]
NO ONE'S ADDRESS, WHETHER A MEMBER OR A PUBLIC FIGURE SUCH AS AN ACTOR IS EVER TO BE POSTED ON THE BARROW-DOWNS - MITHADAN

[ October 15, 2002: Message edited by: Mithadan ]

[Birdland]

Kithrèna - If you think your first idea was bad, I think an even worse idea is to print a person's private information on a public forum.

I've written to the administrators asking to have the address deleted, but you might have the decency to do it yourself.

[Kithrèna Greenarrow Legolas]

Uhh...I made that address up

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

And in the wake of those words came the sound of a thousand notebook pages being torn out and binned.

[*Varda*]

For goodness sake guys, go easy on Kithrena. She was only making a suggestion. And anyone could tell that address was made up. smilies/rolleyes.gif

Varda

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

You're right. Everyone knows that he lives at Pondicherry Lodge, London Road, Oxford. :smokin:

[Ransom]

Ah well, enough cruise missles for both.

*Pats cruise missile* smilies/evil.gif

Seriously, I don't understand this social behavior. When did people start swooning over actors in a movie? Me confused..... smilies/biggrin.gif

[ October 15, 2002: Message edited by: Ransom ]

[Bêthberry]

Miss, er, Ma'am, ah, "Cruisin'for a bruisin'" Maril,

Bethberry, I think Goldwine aka "Hot Chick" has the copyright to the title Chick TM.


Um, *coughs* I think it was Elenna who propounded upon the Chick theory. I attempted a lame joke about consummations.

And just to be safe I guess I had better add some smilies.

Bethberry
http://smilies.networkessence.net/cwm/cwm/eek5.gif
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/angels/newangel.gif
http://smilies.networkessence.net/contrib/edoom/let_it_all_out.gif

[Neferchoirwen]

When did people start swooning over actors in a movie?

Maybe since the art of drama was commercialized to the masses. Can't blame them, though.
I'm an Elrond fan myself. I became one because everyone goes for Frodo and Legolas.
smilies/tongue.gif

[ October 15, 2002: Message edited by: Neferchoirwen ]

[Birdland]

Uhh...I made that address up
Then my apologies, Kithrena. Just goes to show you how little I trust the motives of "fans".

[Elenna]

To all of you men who are apparently feeling very threatened by Orlie:

There are plenty of girls who find a skinny British kid who smokes and finds a lot of excitement in things that could kill him very unattractive. Sure, he looks nice, but I'll take common sense any day.

Plus, he's a self-admitted technophobe! Could any of us BD girls live with that?

[Rimbaud]

There are plenty of girls who find a skinny British kid who smokes and finds a lot of excitement in things that could kill him very unattractive.

Therefore I retire from the public eye. Good night.

[Kithrèna Greenarrow Legolas]

For goodness sake guys, go easy on Kithrena. She was only making a suggestion. And anyone could tell that address was made up. smilies/rolleyes.gif

Thank you ma'am.

Then my apologies, Kithrena. Just goes to show you how little I trust the motives of "fans".
Its OK. I share your idea about some fans....Just three days ago I was in a chat room and some girl was handing out The Rock's E-Mail address....

You're right. Everyone knows that he lives at Pondicherry Lodge, London Road, Oxford. smilies/evil.gif
And with that said, I shall call Mr. Bloom and warn him of the cruise missiles and a man with three thousand pounds of amo that will be coming to his house.
Actually, I thought he lived in Transillvania smilies/smile.gif

And now, I take My leave......For now

[Elenna]

Sorry, Rimbaud. Maybe I should have added "Who DOESN'T like flaming trout."

[Lush]

This is a public service announcement.

Anyone whose taste runs to skinny British kids with bad smoking habits and seeming death-wishes, and feels that they can't live without them, please come to Duke University.

I'll set you up with my ex.

Really, the similarities are rather mind-boggling, when I think about it. I guess my transient crush on Orli was not so transient after all...

Word to the wise, kids such as Orli are not all they're cracked out to be. Much ado about nothing indeed. *Erm*, no offense to Rimbaud...By the way, Rimbaud, are you single? I'm on the rebound, you know.

[Rimbaud]

No, and also 'kid' is something of a stretch. smilies/frown.gif Skinny and British is right, though. Additionally , I stopped smoking about five months ago; this also removed the death-wish clause. So the statement is actually almost entirely inaccurate. *sighs*

[NazgulNumberTen]

There are plenty of girls who find a skinny British kid who smokes and finds a lot of excitement in things that could kill him very unattractive. Sure, he looks nice, but I'll take common sense any day.
people at school think i have a deathwish. i jump off of tall stuff and hurt myself smilies/biggrin.gif

[Auriel Haevasawen]

Hmm, I shall be careful what I say as I have already been driven into the RPGs by those who have taken offence at my observations before and no offence is intended.
I believe Orli is popular with the young girls because he seems so fresh, innocent and non-threatening, plus noble etc. but this is just a character he plays. Even his eyes are contact lens blue. (check Viggo's portrait of him putting them in) All of these things are of course irrelevant to this site, except perhaps on the movies thread. This is a Tolkien site, not 'Blooming Marvellous' or some other location. Drool or swoon there please, not here. I don't blame the girls. I still have my Brandon Lee poster at the top of the stairs even at my age but I wouldn't dream of cluttering up a 'serious' website with such stuff which is of course what I'm doing now so I'd better stop.

[Elenna]

I must confess, I tried to swindle my local Barnes and Noble manager out of his lifesize Aragorn cutout, but he wasn't having it.

The problem isn't people idolizing actors. They are perfectly welcome to do that on their own time. The problem as I see it is when they use forum space and MY time to drool over him.

By my time I mean the time I waste reading topics that started out serious but ended up in a "Wow, Orlie has the hottest NOSE!" slobberfest.

[Marileangorifurnimaluim]

Bethberry, my sincerest apologies. Comment is now redirected to Elenna. *curtsies rather awkwardly - being a ChickTM herself Maril's not very good at this.*

Kat, don't worry, all ideas are welcome! See how popular my Slash Forum was? (Okay guys, how 'bout.. a photospread of Sir Ian McKellen's boyfriends? Anyone? Anyone? smilies/biggrin.gif ) Someone could have a great time trampling it into the ground.

Clearly everyone is enjoying themselves immensely, if ah.. ahem... somewhat at your expense.

Lush, you know it. smilies/wink.gif *blows smoke off barrel of small silver snub-nose pistol before returning it to her purse.*

Naz, should you run out ammo, just let me know.

-Maril

[Kithrèna Greenarrow Legolas]

"Wow, Orlie has the hottest NOSE!"
ROFLMAO!!! Thats just SILLY!
But I do agree with you. I've seen it time and time again, people start a serious topic and it turns into a droolfest.....And I hate it when that happnes.
I'm proud to say I've never done anything of the like (Comment of Mr. Bloom's nose or change a topic) smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

And uhh...Where EXACTALLY would this picture of the contact lens' being put in?
Just wonderin'...

Edit: Dang My typos.....Coud I barrow some amo to shoot em' with??

[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: Kithrèna Greenarrow Legolas ]

[Elenna]

Sure, KGL! *Elenna hands over a slip of paper that says "Get a dictionary" on it.*

NN10, my friends and I have adopted your "Stone Age" quote, and now are using it to describe most male behavior. Feel proud!

[VanimaEdhel]

Plus, he's a self-admitted technophobe! Could any of us BD girls live with that?

Hmmm...he's a technophobe? Gee...the darn personality quizzes are right pairing me with him, then. Poo...I have to be honest: these things scare me to death. I mean, you press one button and, tah-daaaah, the entire world sees what you think. How do these things work anyway? I mean, how is it that all of these little wires with all this electricity produces a black screen that is quickly making me blind over time and also knows what I am typing? *Shivers* Gah...I am suddenly thinking my computer is very, very scary. I think I am going to finish this post and leave.

Why did computers have to freak me out? Gah! Why couldn't I have...an ex-wife and a 14-year old son, for instance (okay, I am 15 and a girl already, but...still)? And here I am stuck with my friends, after me taking the quizzes saying, "Awww...you and Mr. Bloom would make such a cute couple!"

Yes, as an ex-second-hand smoker, I know how horrible smoking is to the people around you. My dad smoked in front of me for the first 12 years of my life. I think he really ruined my lungs (he smoked in every room with the windows closed quite a bit). So, if I ever end up with a guy that smokes, he will have to quit before we have children (well, get married, for that matter).

[NazgulNumberTen]

NN10, my friends and I have adopted your "Stone Age" quote, and now are using it to describe most male behavior. Feel proud!


i sure will...

[Marileangorifurnimaluim]

The trouble with being a second-hand smoker is it's hard to quit.

-Maril

[Lush]

Good point, Maril, smilies/biggrin.gif

For my part, I think boys who smoke are cute. They blow delightful smoke-rings for one's amusement, and make me feel even more superior when I regail them with stories of how I used to run the 5K.

Plus, if the break-up is ugly, I can always warm myself with the thought that he has cancer to look forward to.

So now that's Rimbaud's taken, how about Orli? I could turn into a professional girlfriend. smilies/evil.gif Really, who needs the swoon forum when you have me? Not to mention Maril! (Don't feel obliged to answer that)

[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: Lush ]

[Telchar]

*whimpers slightly*

[onewhitetree]

Any skinny, British, ex-kid, ex-smoker who models his character after Kermit the Frog is OK in Kate's Book of Nice Men.

http://www.gifanimations.com/animation3/frogs/Hat-Frog10.gif

[Rimbaud]

Post of the Week there, Kate, good job.

http://www.internoodle.com/kermit/Frog/frogcomp.jpg

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Who needs Mr. Bloom and his ilk? Our very own Mods and Ops are prime candidates for heart-throb celebrity status. Think about it: the power; the prestige; their names appearing in bold. Surely they deserve to be the centre of amorous aspiration around here. Any thoughts? Any thoughts fit for publication?

[Bêthberry]

My dear Squatter,

I am so frightfully disappointed. And I thought they wanted to be known for their minds.

Disconsolately,
Bb

[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

[Birdland]

That may be, Squat. I'm sure the Mods all have a kind of scruffy appeal. However; I'm surprised that no one has commented on the fact that the number of posters to the Downs started to increase after I joined in December, 2001.

My fan base does tend to doggedly follow me. Though most do respect my privacy and are content to adore me from afar. That would explain the lack of a "Birdie Swoon Room" here. Wouldn't want to take the focus off our minor English author too much.

Now if you'll excuse me: I have to send the beaters out to drive away the stalkers in the hedgerow.

[Elenna]

I resent that, Birdie! I'm not scruffy!

But, Lush, I did the professional girlfriend thing for a while - friends avoiding exes, that sort of thing. It can be fun! And if you end up being pro girlfriend to the stars, who can imagine the possibilities?

[Marileangorifurnimaluim]

Birdie, I'll get started on that swoon room right away. You'll never have the copyrights on my polaroids, ah-ha-ha-hah! (Maril dashes from the bushes.) smilies/biggrin.gif

As for mods..
What is more alluring than a mystery? A mod who's never shown his picture? Never given a hint? Flexed his moderating muscle with dispassionate grace?

Let's hear it for the "Mithadan Swoon Room"! (Sorry B-W. smilies/wink.gif )

-Maril

[Losthuniel]

(buys extra ammo)
fine. ill have to hunt down the fangirls too.
...one man against the world...
Naz, actually, there's about *counts on fingers* 12 or so of us. Join the PPC (http://www.misssandman.com/PPC/ppc.html) Rimbaud, Maril, you too.

I dread to think of the flamewars and catfights that a Swoon forum would create. Ungh. I t would require more moderation than the rest of the forum combined.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I am so frightfully disappointed. And I thought they wanted to be known for their minds.

It's a sad fact that this seldom carries any weight with the wretched wights that stalk these barrows, Bethberry m'dear. ;)

In any case, such considerations are as nothing to me. I am motivated solely by the innocent desire to foment chaos and disorder; and to inflict a certain light-hearted revenge on any mounted pseudonyms who may have seen fit to add to my discomfort in the past. :smokin:

However, since Maril has innocently diverted my somewhat ill-aimed barb towards the Miasmic One, it looks as though another great plan has been foiled. I shall concoct another, never fear.

Sorry to steal your thunder, Birdie. We all know that you're the real Downs pin-up; but you can't carry the huge burden of our admiration alone. The PMs alone would drive you mad.

[Maikadilwen]

"Mithadan Swoon Room"!

What an excellent idea Maril! smilies/biggrin.gif And let's not forget about Sharku. smilies/wink.gif

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Well, we could revive The Official Sharkû Fan Club in the chatroom...

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

What a splendid idea. The suave Teutonic charms of the Downs' most cunning linguist must be lauded most liberally. ;)

[Elenna]

I think a Mithadan swoon room would be a funny thing to see - we could all reminisce about the wonderfully polite things he's said to us in the past...

But if anyone deserves a swoon room, how about the Barrow Wight?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

My suggestion covers every administrator, moderator and passing maniac who helps to run the site. Especially BW. Surely his recently-released picture must have set some ladies' hearts a-beating. ;)

[Mithadan]

*The administrator's ears were burning. He entered the thread and stalked to its end preparing to issue a venomous screech: "OFF TOPIC!"

*Then he reviews several posts. Upon reading the post of the long-named one, he blushes bright green to the roots of his hair. Three times he attempts to formulate a response, pithy, polite or otherwise, and fails utterly. Glancing over his shoulders for stalkers, he slinks from the thread muttering under his breath...

[Bêthberry]

Surely his recently-released picture must have set some ladies' hearts a-beating.

But here's the rub, Squatter(another truth to be universally acknowledged). Look how quickly these quaintly-minded sorts dropped Rimbaud once he acknowledged the existence of Mrs. Rimbaud. There is clearly a "one ring" being sported in the BW's picture. He is thus askanced and all his mighty charms seemingly underappreciated. (Certainly the chat facility was undervalued recently.) smilies/wink.gif

And turning, I would hope, to the rescue of all gracious goodly gentlemen, especially one whose ears have just been burned, I look over at the wise OneWhiteTree. Methinks KKate has the better plan. I shall take a page--actually, several pages--from her good Book of Nice Men. Besides, it sounds vaguely Chaucerian.

Bethberry

[ October 18, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

[Maikadilwen]

Aww, poor Mith. But who do you think you're kidding? We know you love the attention! smilies/wink.gif

Bethberry is right. "The One ring" thing is scary.
I for one truly believe that there's a reason why, in Danish, the word for "married" is the same as the one for "poison".
Kinda makes you wonder.... smilies/tongue.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[ October 18, 2002: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ]

[Rimbaud]

She prefers 'Ms.'. smilies/wink.gif In addition, Bethberry, should you ever read aforementioned tome, be sure to look me up. Pages fifteen to one-fifty and yes it is lycra I am wearing in the detail on page sixty-nine.

[Bêthberry]

LOL, Maika, I took that "one ring" from the superimposed writing on BW's picture. 'Tis his idea, not mine.

*runs off to write more pages for KKate's book*

Bethberry

[Bêthberry]

Pages fifteen to one-fifty...

I said, it sounds "vaguely Chaucerian." You must be thinking of "Rabelasian." That is the sequel, isn't it?

[ October 18, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

[Rimbaud]

Should that not be Rabelaisian?

"Cette année, les aveugles ne verront que bien peu, les sourds ouïront assez mal; les muets ne parleront guère;
les riches se porteront un peu mieux que les pauvres, et les sains mieux que les malades.
Vieillesse sera incurable cette année à cause des années passées..."

Edit: If indeed you are referring to Rabelais, and I am not making an egregious error...

[ October 18, 2002: Message edited by: Rimbaud ]

[HerenIstarion]

and they alllived happily ever after

Stunned I am, am I not?

What are you talking about, ppl? If KGL haven't started this supposedly "swooning" thread (I confess never looked inside before due to it's name, but still...), you would have no chance of showing off the way you have been doing here smilies/tongue.gif.

Someone complains about having serious posts ending up in drooling/swooning (whatever) storm. Here is a paragon of opposite, though topic get off completely and became a word playing/punning/joking contest so stunning I am not able to leave without even most confused comment

You even managed to paint Mithadan green (operation which, as is widely known, Valar themselves were unable to perform over Sauron) who henceforward would go by the name of Gwenadan (if effect is permanent , of course)

The general point - if "drooling" forum is capable of producing such an inspiration, I'm voting with both hands for it. Only pray keep inspiration closer to Tolkien, eh?

as a PS: we males are not acting like that all the time (along NN10 lines, if you pls). Sometimes we sleep, and sometimes (3 times a day for your humble servant) we eat. The rest of the time is as was descibed above)

[Bêthberry]

The error, as you point out, Sir, was indeed on my part, and not yours. *curtsies*

Quand même, vous ne me vieillissez pas? "Trinch", I suggest, and not some of that orc-draught of yours. smilies/wink.gif

*trying to return this to Tolkien (in respect of H-I's remarks) who of course ever treasured a good joke, particularly at the expense of the French and who would not have been amused by the fangirls, charts of Luthien not to the contrary.*

Bethberry

[ October 18, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

[Neferchoirwen]

Oh Gosh...I haven't posted here for about two, three days, and all this about Orli just makes me swoon, too, making me forget my Hugo Weaving for awhile. (and not to mention Josh Groban *sigh*) [a bit off-Tolkien there, sorry can't help it]

Lush: I'm a sucker for guys who smoke, too! But I don't smoke. They're just, well, adorable. Nice-ssss to look at, yesss.

Elenna: Thank you for a wonderful idea of asking for the Aragorn cutout. My friend might STILL be working at the record store I go to, and if she's still there, I'll ask her if I can have their Aragorn cutout. *hihiihiii* (Not unless if she takes it for herself)

Dunno much about Mithadan, but this thread sure darn made me curious!

[ October 18, 2002: Message edited by: Neferchoirwen ]

[Maikadilwen]

Neferchoirwen you just HAD to mention Hugo Weaving didn't you? Not nice. You hit a soft spot there. smilies/biggrin.gif

[ October 18, 2002: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ]

[Neferchoirwen]

Sorry about that, Maika. Can't help it. smilies/smile.gif*Get's all wide-eyed innocent and says "what's a girl to do?"*

I've never been fixated on any guy in particular for about a few months now. So there. smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

And oh, I went to this biorhythm compatibility thingy---and guess who I'm compatible with? smilies/biggrin.gif

[ October 18, 2002: Message edited by: Neferchoirwen ]

[Rimbaud]

Topic: A idea about the "fangirl" Problem we've been having

[Maikadilwen]

Exactly what we're trying to illustrate here, dearest Rimbaud. It could turn into something terrible. smilies/biggrin.gif

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Quoting French literature isn't going to solve it, Rim; they'll just start swooning over Gustave Flaubert instead.

[Elenna]

Now THERE's an interesting thought.

And no, I don't have a latent crush on the Barrow-Wight or Mithadan or anyone. I was just thinking in terms of those who DESERVE swoon forums.

[Rimbaud]

An attraction of the bovine to the Bovary, Squatter?

[Bêthberry]

Here is a paragon of opposite, though topic gets off completely and became a word playing/punning/joking contest so stunning ...


Precisely, HerenIstarion. It is called hoisting them on their own petard. Or, conversely, having your cake and eating it, too. smilies/biggrin.gif

Bethberry

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Couldn't have put it better myself, Rim; which is why I didn't. ;)

[Marileangorifurnimaluim]

Anyone who manages to squeeze the word 'petard' into modern English use has my vote for President. Swoon room number Two, anyone?

-Maril

[HerenIstarion]

Bb just did it. Or are my eyes deceived?

[Elenna]

Bethberry for president!!!!

[Bêthberry]

The Convenor for the Middle Earth Hostelry and Inn Association regrets to inform you that we cannot at this time accommodate your request for election facilities at the Barrow Downs Swoonery for a Ms. Berry.

Swoon Room # 2, salons A, B, and C are currently booked for a long-term engagement by the Barrow Downs Birding Club. Some of the events you might wish to attend this evening, 28 Winterfilth, are the following:

Stalking the Elusive Mellow-throated Birdland
Top Hot Spots for Sighting Birdie
Birdie Up Close: Binoculars or Scopes?
Building a Better Blind: Privacy or Peek-a-boo
Identifying Birdie's Songs: To-wit, To-Wit

Our sister Inn at Bree is also full, with reservations tonight for an appearance by some hobbits, followed by a wizard and a pony.

The following week, the Barrow Downs Birding Club will be hosting a tribute to Birdland sightings, tentatively titled, "Perched atop the Lonely Star." Tickets on sale next Tuesday. Proceeds to the Barrow Downs Store.

[ October 19, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

[Child of the 7th Age]

To all members of the Barrow Downs Birding Club:

Please note that Miss Bird is currently trapped in the tombs of Numenor and is not responding to requests for interviews. It is hoped that she will be rescued next week, and will make her reappearance at the Barrow Downs. This, however, is not certain, given the vagaries of RPGs, and those who travel with her!

All requests for promotional appearances should be deferred until that date.

Camelia Goodchilde,
Press Secretary for Mistress Bird aboard
the Lonely Star

[Birdland]

Thenk yoo...Thenk yoo...(blows kisses the crowd), all you lovely little common people.

And remember, the Birdland Action Figure will be available soon through the Barrow Downs Store. Pre-Orders are being accepted now.

Please buy generously.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Congratulations, Birdy. I trust that you don't mean to forget the little people who made it all possible.

Why do so many celebrities attribute their success to Leprechauns anyway?

[HerenIstarion]

The Underground Treasury of Leprechauns (Ltd) is reported to announce it is cutting short it's sponsorship program for celebrities-to-be. As a press-attaché of the Treasury told our correspondent, since all potters went to Hogwarts, leprechauns supply of pots for their gold was cut short. Though, as selfsame press-attaché announces, Treasury is seriously considering a project of issuing it's own credit cards. There is a plan to establish the original network of ATM throughout the world. ATM will be installed by Golems Inc, and made out of finest china porcelain golems. The ATM are reported to have passed tests successfully, though the cash advance process is rather peculiar - customer is supposed to stick the card into golems mouth, than make a tour around it and wait for his cash on the other side. Leprechaun Treasury (Ltd) and Golems Inc announce that their cooperation will not end with this single project, and we are to meet new products in nearest future.

-The Nightly Palantir-

[HerenIstarion]

Disclaimer: The idea of the previous post style indeed owes it's inspiration to Marileangorifurnimaluim with her "Academy of Thread Names" (here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=14&t=000867)) post in "Nominations: Best Thread Names" thread in The Barrow Downs

Thanks, Maril

[piosenniel]

The Birdland Action Figure . . . does that come with batteries?

[DaughterofVana]

Has anyone ever thought that some fangirl would stumble onto the 'Downs looking for hot Legolas pics, start reading, and get converted?? Having a great Tolkien site like this is bound to sport evangelistic properties. Go in an Orli freak, come out a Tolkien freak! smilies/smile.gif It's a thought, at least.

-'Vana

[ October 23, 2002: Message edited by: DaughterofVana ]

[HerenIstarion]

Go in an Orli freak, come out a Tolkien freak! It's a thought, at least

that's exactly what I'm hoping for. yet we are not freaks, we are high brow intelligentsia with deep appreciation and profound knowledge of J.R.R.T.'s world, as well as down-to-bottom diggers in other fields of earthly wisdom smilies/tongue.gif

[DaughterofVana]

I forgot those of my friends out in the Great Void aren't familiar with the terms of endearment in my corner of the universe. smilies/smile.gif To be a "Tolkien-freak" is a title that holds great honor and prestige in my little world. I curtsy in your general direction!

-'Vana

[Elenna]

Here's my story - my little sister (age 12) was looking for Elijah Wood pictures on the Internet. She is the epitome of fangirliness. Anyway, this site came up on the Google engine. She checked it out, and started making noises of disgust that there weren't any movie pictures. But I thought the name generator was really cool, so I checked it out.

And here I am today. I was already something of a Tolkien fan, but it's possible for a fangirl to become a thoughtful discusser. I think. Even though my sister (the Philistine) thinks the books are stupid.

[Bêthberry]

Has anyone ever thought that some fangirl would stumble onto the 'Downs looking for hot Legolas pics, start reading, and get converted?? Having a great Tolkien site like this is bound to sport evangelistic properties

I was not aware that the Barrow Downs is an evangelical movement.

[ October 23, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

[Birdland]

(Birdie thows a blanket over her shrine to Eru.)

[Elenna]

Whoopsie - better stop trying to convince everyone to pray to Elbereth...

And we are an evangelical movement of sorts. We attempt to convert people to the cult of rational thought and conscientious discussion.

[Bêthberry]

And we are an evangelical movement of sorts. We attempt to convert people to the cult of rational thought and conscientious discussion.


The bolded phrase is a non sequitur, Elenna. Please think about the connotations of the word "cult." And also look up the meaning of "evangelical."

Bethberry

[ October 23, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

[Lush]

Come on, Bethberry, stop being serious! It's too late in the game for that! smilies/biggrin.gif

[ October 23, 2002: Message edited by: Lush ]

[onewhitetree]

I would like to take this moment to say how wonderful it is that our moderators are good-natured enough to take such horribly disrespectful conduct and, dare I say, even grammatical correction *gasps* with such good nature. Aren't we lucky?

[piosenniel]

*reaches under the blanket Bird has thrown over Eru*

Ah! There's the switch!

*click*

*strains of the Ainulindalë pour into the forum - Melkor doing the oom pah pah accompaniment*

[Birdland]

Pio and Birdie envoke The Great Conductor:
"Ohhhhhhhhh...

I don't care if it rains or hails-oooo,
'Long as I got my plastic Eru,
Riding on the dash board of my car!

You can buy Him phosphorescent
Glows in the dark, He's Pink and Pleasant,
Take Him with you when you're travelling far

Plastic Eru! Plastic Eru!
Riding on the dashboard of my car.
But I think he'll have to go,
His magnet ruins my radio
And if we have a wreck he'll leave a scar."

[piosenniel]

I don't care if any mod's wroth,
Long as I have magnetic Morgoth,
Sneerin' from the dashboard of my car,

I feel I'm protected amply,
I've got the whole dang Ainu Family,
Riding on the dashboard of my car.

Plastic Eru! Plastic Morgoth!
Ridin' on the dashboard of my car
Through all trials and tribulations
We'll travel Mithlond's every nation
With my Plastic Valar I'll go far

[Maikadilwen]

'EY, leave my Morgoth alone! smilies/mad.gif smilies/wink.gif

[ October 24, 2002: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ]

[HerenIstarion]

shame on you, piosenniel and Birdland smilies/redface.gif

boo

[Birdland]

Awwww, you're just jealous, Heren, 'cause our cars are blessed with with the Light of the Two Dashboard Ornaments.

[HerenIstarion]

well, I may be jealous, but the reason you give is not correct. I envy you on the plain basis of simply owing cars whilst I do not smilies/tongue.gif

[Elenna]

I don't have a car either. Oh, the injustice.

But my license plate, when I get one is going to say "NATWWAL". Guess what THAT means.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

What's this? I'm gone for a day and everyone goes all happy-clappy. Stop behaving like a cluster of boring hippies or there'll be some smiting done.

I want to see more anarchy, in the style of Bethberry, Mod-Corrector General.

[HerenIstarion]

NATWWAL?

Not All The Women Wheel Around Loonely?
(don't get at me, just a joke)
smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Elenna]

NOOO! NO SMITING, PLEASE!

And I really don't mind being corrected when I make mistakes. Mods are people too, and I'm a rather young one, so I make more than my quota.

And NATWWAL means Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost! Because once I get a car, you'll never get me out!

[Birdland]

well, I may be jealous, but the reason you give is not correct. I envy you on the plain basis of simply owing cars whilst I do not
( smilies/frown.gif Birdie pats her 10 year old Geo and appreciates what she's got.)

(Heren walks down street with a plastic Eru on his head and a pair of fuzzy dice hanging 'round his neck, but it's just not the same.)

[Bêthberry]

LOL, Birdie, Pio, and Heren!

I am the very model of a mod-correcting general. And Squatter, you are indeed a favoured aide-de-camp, but it would behoove you if you capitalized on my name. smilies/wink.gif

And, yes, well, some minor squirmishes provide but brief exercise of our might. We must save ourselves for the greater battle that awaits, when the rough beast slouches forth in December.

[ October 24, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

[Legolas]

If forum members (you) wish to "fight" this problem, you should really do nothing but proceed with things as usual and ingore such problems. If you do so, you won't be bothered and the administration will undoubtedly handle anything that presents itself as a threat to the mature, Tolkien-related discussion that goes on here.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Point taken, Legalos. Sorry Bethberry: that post has now been edited to give your name the full dignity of a proper noun. ;)

[Bêthberry]

Ah, Legalos, this thread has been turned into a joke. No one is intruding on the Administration's role in handling the site. In fact, the thread has become simply a bit of sport in support of the Administration.

And Squatter, you are a scholar and a gentleman. In your debt, sir. *curtsies*

Bethberry

[Legolas]

Apologies to anyone offended...not intended as a slam of any sort. More of a general response to the original topic, not to the jocular, subsequent conversation.

[Elenna]

We have somewhat digressed, eh? Oh well. Bound to happen, I suppose.

For once and for all, I want to clear up my opinion on a swoon forum. I do not believe that we should have one. I do think that fangirls can become thoughtful participants in serious discussions if they discover that Legolust is not an acceptable condition here. By creating a swoon forum, we would be legitimizing such banal discussion.

[mark12_30]

Legolas? I thought we were swooning over the Balrog. I just love his eyeliner.

[Elenna]

Ah, the Balrog...

And how 'bout that Sauron! Something about his big, fiery eyes...

[Maikadilwen]

Now now, Elenna. I believe Sauron is my "territory"... smilies/wink.gif smilies/evil.gif

[ October 24, 2002: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ]

[Lush]

Indeed. When I saw the "Balrog's" eyeliner, I jumped out of my seat and started licking the screen. Needless to say, I was escorted out of the theater very soon after. My name is Lush, and I have a problem. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Birdland]

I'm a pushover for demons with wings, myself.

[Elenna]

Lush, I had a similar problem when I insisted on "Rocky-Horrorizing" the show with my best friend. We kept adding "Mr. Anderson" after all of Elrond's lines, etc. Silly movie theater staff.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I would have thought that appending "Mr. Underhill" wherever Elrond addressed Frodo would be more appropriate. It even has the same rhythm.

When I saw the "Balrog's" eyeliner, I jumped out of my seat and started licking the screen.

You're a very, very disturbed creature. Have you any idea how much filth gets on those screens? ;)

[Elenna]

That does sound pretty gross, Squatter. But the Balrog's steaming hottiness prevails over bacteria any day.

And next time I'll say Mr. Underhill. I promise.

[TolkienGurl]

You guys crack me up! http://smilies.networkessence.net/contrib/ruinkai/biglaugha.gif

This is Lush licking the screen:
http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/tongue/128.gif
It's a joke! Ha ha.

[ October 26, 2002: Message edited by: TolkienGurl ]

[mark12_30]

So, Elenna, any movie theater that wants to sterilize their screens need only air The Fellowship Of The Ring-- once will do.

We could work this angle. "Gee, this is a big theater; twelve screens? When were they last sterilized? Mmmm-hmmm. Definitely time to rerun LOTR and avoid a call from the Board of Health."

[Elenna]

You better believe it! One screening every day, and they'll have the cleanest screens in the world!

If only we could do that with the floors...

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Before you get too carried away, though, I should point out that there are many cinemas, but only one Lush. ;)

Besides, wouldn't you need step-ladders near the screen to get the top done?

[mark12_30]

Squatter, Squatter, it's the stupendous heat given off by that hunky, eyeliner-wearing BALROG that sterilizes the screen.

Lush is a powerful woman, but sterilization is not something I associate with her, generally speaking.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Ah. My mistake. Flame of Udûn cleaning services Ltd.

[Birdland]

Squatter - I hope your new avatar isn't suggesting that the Downs is being sunk by an massive ice floe of "fangirls". smilies/smile.gif

[TolkienGurl]

ice doesn't sink

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Other things have been known to sink on contact with ice, however. No, Birdie; it was that moustache that prompted me to use Sir Cosmo as my avatar, not his unfortunate Atlantic experiences. I should like to say, though, that he was one of the survivors.

Personally I think that our problem is more likely to be the looming mass of The Two Towers, which some sharp-eyed lookouts are even now announcing to the Officer of the Watch.

[EDIT: The avatar reference is to an old black-and-white photograph of Sir Cosmo Edmund Duff-Gordon, fifth baronet (http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/item/1059/), which used to be on Encyclopaedia Titanica. I'd had no avatar before that, hence the interest.]

[Maikadilwen]

Squatter are you saying that FOTR was nothing but the "Titanic Overture" for TTT?

[ October 27, 2002: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ]

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I fear that the last film was a mere New York incident in comparison with what is to come, yes.

[Elenna]

*Threatening music starts to play...*

Well, I'm actually not sure that TTT will cause a huge population explosion. After all, most of the audience will be made up of those who have already seen FOTR. I doubt the increase will be as much as the FOTR one (of which I must admit, I was a part.)

[Bêthberry]

And ROTK will be the Mont Blanc incident (the December 6 1917 explosion in Halifax harbour) Squatter? One could refer to the movies' self-destructive urges, couldn't one?

[ October 27, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

[Gorwingel]

I am not a fan girl, but Orlando, for your information does not smoke.
Most of the fan girls will be gone soon, many of the ones I see have not been back here very much.
and on another note, this is a really crazy thread, I didn't even know what you were all really talking about half the time, I guess I still am kind of new and it seems that most of the people who have posted here have been at the BD for a long time, maybe in awhile I can hopefully take part in a discussion like this. smilies/cool.gif

[ February 03, 2003: Message edited by: Gorwingel ]

[Inderjit Sanghera]

I really don't think this site has a big a fangirl problem as other forums.

[VanimaEdhel]

Just as a note: the fangirl issues seem to rise with the coming of each new movie. It will die down almost to complete death until Return of the King comes out, then they will all return, crying their little eyes out about the fact that their Sam is married off and that they can't marry Frodo.

Okay: I will be crying too, but not about those things. I'll just be crying like I've cried for the first two movies...

But then, the movies will be over and the teenies will disappear again, and we'll be left to our peace and quiet. *Sigh* Thank goodness for that...

[The Fifth]

Besides, wouldn't you need step-ladders near the screen to get the top done?

Can fangirls jump that high?

Or perhaps the lust generated by seeing Legolas on the screen gives them the muscular boost needed to propel themselves up to the top and lick the screen.

[Gorwingel]

Hey not all the people who have come to this forum because of the films are fangirls. I am defently not a fangirl, but I would have never known about Tolkien this much if I had not seen FOTR. Though you just don't like the people who have not done as much reasearch as me, and the people who have not read the books.

[Inderjit Sanghera]

Couldn't we just start a thread for fangirls? It would be better. Then they could stop annoying others, though it would be the worst thread ever. (In my opinion.)

[ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: Inderjit Sanghera ]

[VanimaEdhel]

Couldn't we just start a thread for fangirls? It would be better. Then they could stop annoying others, though it would be the worst thread ever. (In my opinion.)

Our point is that it encourages them if we cater to them. Scaring them away is much easier (and more fun). Don't worry, I'm kidding...a bit...