Mary-Sue???

[seremela]

just wondering but what is up with Mary-sue and what is it? I'm confussled. smilies/confused.gif

[Trippo The Hippo]

I think you should be a tad more specific. Or am I the only other person who doesn't know about mary sue?

Welcome to the downs. Enjoy being dead.

[Amarantha_Daisy]

A Mary-Sue is a fanfiction character that seems...essentially perfect. She has long, raven hair and piercing eyes, no weaknesses and is uber-powerful. She usually comes from a tragic past, her family was killed and she mourns the loss, ect. ect. Usually Legolas or some other hearthrob falls in love with her and they live happily ever after...

Get what I'm talking about? smilies/wink.gif

By the way, welcome! Enjoy being dead!

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 11:33 PM December 16, 2003: Message edited by: Amarantha_Daisy ]

[seremela]

thanks. it's been enlightening and thanks also for the welcoming I am glad to be here. this is a very cool site. ttfn

[Morgul Queen]

Mary-Sues don't really have a specific definition. But the are essentially perfect - they can make Canon characters into losers so that they can save them, generally they have magical powers, and can be the offspring of a ridiculous parentage e.g. Galadriel/Gandalf, Elrond/Arwen, Legolas/Galadriel, Smaug/random other you get the idea.

Mary-Sues are either the Best fighters in M-e, regardless of the fact they have never seen a weapon before in their lives, or weak, perfect princesses of randomnonexistantmoonshineforest. they are also fun to kill - so says the PPC Agent *snerk*.

There are also different kinds of 'Sue.

Victim 'Sue: is usually the type that 'suffers' from an abusing past, evil parents, or other angsty type things. In most fics, this 'Sue nearly dies about a hundred times and is almost always accompanied by -

Supporting 'Sue: who looks after her, helping her in everything, is the perfect friend, yadda yadda yadda.

Possession 'Sue: is the one that possesses canon characters and makes the act OOC. Generally Legolas, Elrond, Gandalf, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, Aragorn, Boromir, Arwen, Galadriel, Faramir, Eowyn, Eomer, Theoden, Thranduil, Bilbo, etc are hit the worst. Gimli is generally left alone as he is Small, Ugly and not worth noticing (to the 'Sues, of course).

These are the basic 'Sues. Should you come across any 'Sue that needs smiting, PM me at once. I will deal with the creature in the most painful possible way smilies/evil.gif

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 3:21 PM December 17, 2003: Message edited by: Morgul Queen ]

[Imladris]

Try looking at these threads:

Who in the world is Mary Sue? (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=002609)

and:

The True and Proper Definition of a Mary Sue (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000900)

Cheers!

[Diamond18]

Then of course there's the Ultimate Mary Sue (Wyniel) (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=22&t=000037)

By the way, Elrond/Arwen¿What RPG's have you been reading? smilies/tongue.gif

[seremela]

thanx guys (and girls) I had never heard of mary sue before

[symestreem]

Then there's this:Fanfiction: the Definition of Mary-Sue (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3354)

[Amanaduial the archer]

A Mary-Sue is a fanfiction character that seems...essentially perfect. She has long, raven hair and piercing eyes, no weaknesses and is uber-powerful. She usually comes from a tragic past, her family was killed and she mourns the loss, ect. ect. Ah, you forget that she wishes more than anything else to get revenge for this from The Bad Guy, and will ultimately get it, generally with the help of various talking animals, magical powers and much passion burning in her troubles but nonetheless stunningly exquisite and perfect soul :rolleyes:

Imladris, I'm afraid the links aren't working :( No matter, I'll do a search for them.

Also, here are some outside links for all ye who want some working examples of true and terrible mary-sue-dom. Be warned, some are quite...painful...

Mary-sue example... (http://www.livejournal.com/community/marysues/274084.html)

LotR sues... (http://www.livejournal.com/users/lotrsues/)

Various sues... (http://www.livejournal.com/community/marysues/)

Actually, looking back, it is stunning how many include Legolas...*groan*

[Imladris]

Imladris, I'm afraid the links aren't working No matter, I'll do a search for them.

They probably died an untimely death when the forum switched to V Bulletine. I'm sorry.... *meloncholy sigh*