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Estelyn Telcontar
12-18-2002, 02:32 AM
Did you see any of those little mistakes fans love to look for? Tell us about them!
Nerdanel
12-18-2002, 03:00 AM
Haven't noticed too many yet; there is so much to see the first time. But, Shadowfax definitely has a saddle and ropes every now and again. Just a glimpse though; they did a good job editing that.
mollecon
12-18-2002, 05:04 AM
While Aragorn, Legolas & Gimli are hunting the Orchs, at some point Legolas mentions they've changed course to the North-East - shoulda been North-West..
Tigerlily Gamgee
12-18-2002, 05:22 AM
I did notice some this time...<P>When the orcs are attacked by the Rohirrim and you see Pippin on his back about to get trampled his wrists appear to be unbound... but then they are bound again after that shot.<P>While entering Meduseld, Gandalf's staff chages from being parallel to vertical, depending on whether the shot is from behind or infront.<P>I remember seeing others, but I can't think of what they were at this moment. They may come to me.<P>Anyone else see PJ's kids in the Glittering Caves? Also, PJ was in the battle at Helm's Deep... and I heard a rumor that Viggo's son was there too.
I wondered if anyone else had seen the elf with glasses at the beginning of FotR? It is after Isildur cuts the ring from Sauron's hand and the elves are being "blasted" from Sauron's explosion. It happens rather quickly, but my friend also saw it, so I don't think I'm imagining things.
Sharkû
12-18-2002, 08:50 AM
Those aren't glasses, it's hair blown over his face. <BR>I wondered that myself once, so I freeze-framed the... uh, DVD. Doesn't look like glasses anymore then.
TolkienGurl
12-18-2002, 11:51 AM
Some of my friends are convinced that the Elf you are talking about is Legolas. It certainly looks like him!<P>Yes, I did see PJ's kids. I recognized their eyes. Their hair was dyed blonde, of course, so it is kind of hard to see them as the same kids from FotR. I didn't see PJ, though.<P>And in the "Last Charge" of Theoden and Aragorn, etc., since when do horses galloping down a causeway cause Orcs to just fall over and get trampled? That part was wierd. Watch it and you'll understand what I'm talking about.
Peter Jackson's kids were in FotR? Where?
TolkienGurl
12-18-2002, 12:28 PM
They were little Hobbit children. And PJ is in the scene in Bree. He was a big drunk man stumbling down the road and he belches pretty loud.
-Imrahil-
12-18-2002, 11:16 PM
Yep I recognized the kids. Though I did not see PJ.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
12-19-2002, 05:52 AM
Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli stop all of a sudden. "Hide!"<P>Approx 2 seconds later an eored appears out of nowhere, they hadn't noticed it before.
Sîdhrîs
12-19-2002, 08:45 AM
Wasn't PJ one of the Dunlendings?
Arwen Evenstar the Fair
12-19-2002, 04:07 PM
Yep... I saw him the first time I saw it!!!!!!!<P>Also Merry's cut that he got from getting tossed around by the orcs, moves from the right side of his face to the left side, then back to the right side again.<p>[ December 19, 2002: Message edited by: Arwen Evenstar the Fair ]
Maeglin
12-19-2002, 04:51 PM
2 things!<P>1. The first thing that annoyes me was the continuose adding and removal of horses! <P>When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli walks in Fangron forest there are no horses with them. Then out of Fangorn they ride again! Did the horses walk around the forest? And how did they do that???<BR>Another place is the last barricated room at at Helms Deep. Aragorn and Theoden are talking, dadida... Different views all around the room. No horses and barely any soldiers. But then in the next scene when they decided to attack, the room is suddenly filled with soldiers in shiny armors riding horses!<P>2. At helms deep when the orcs brake the wall and swarms in, Aragorn is in so much trouble that Gimli needs to jump down from the stairs to help him. Then in the next scene Aragorn is standing clean and ready with a bunch of elves at a distance of proably 7 meters to help Gimli. Teleportation?<P>I'm not too sure about my precision in the second one. But I shall studie it next time I see it.<p>[ December 19, 2002: Message edited by: Maeglin ]
Thenamir
12-19-2002, 04:57 PM
Since Sam and Frodo did not see Boromir die, how can Sam tell Faramir about how Boromir died? I thought that was a rather glaring error.
Maeglin
12-19-2002, 04:58 PM
He guessed. <P>Sorry for spamming... Godnight folks!<p>[ December 19, 2002: Message edited by: Maeglin ]
Diamond18
12-19-2002, 05:00 PM
I noticed that too, Thenamir. But by that time the whole Faramir thing was one big blooper.<P>I noticed that in Fangorn when Grishnakh is looming over Merry about to carve a maggot hole in his belly (as he so eloquently put it) he is right over Merry. But then when Treebeard stomps on him Merry is conviently out of harm's way.
-Imrahil-
12-19-2002, 05:01 PM
Bloopers weren't to noticeable for me. Although now that I think about you it you are right about the horses! Will look for it again when I go tomorrow again.<p>[ December 19, 2002: Message edited by: -Imrahil- ]
Shadowstrife911
12-20-2002, 04:44 PM
The last charge of Theoden & Aragon & the rest of the Rohirrim was badly editted. One second there are 10 soldiers bracing the door and no horses and Theoden & Aragon decide to charge. The next shot there is a whole battalion of mounted soldiers in shiny armor ready to ride...<P>It seemed rather goofy to me.
Tigerlily Gamgee
12-21-2002, 12:15 AM
I just imagined that Frodo told Sam about Boromir somewhere along their journey when we weren't watching. Though, that thought did cross my mind at first.<P>Did you know that when Aragorn kicks the helm (by the pile of burning orcs) that he yells because he just broke his toe?
Brinniel
12-21-2002, 12:32 AM
Really? Interesting. Well, it worked for the scene, I suppose because he definately fooled me.
ReededGoat
12-21-2002, 05:50 PM
Minas Morgul is not on Faramir's map<BR>If Treebeard, Merry and Pippin are the first to see Gandalf the White, why does Gandalf act like it's the first time he's heard his name as Gandalf when he later meets up with Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas?<BR>Faramir catches Frodo and Co. East of the Anduin - when they go to Osgiliath, they enter it while it's being besieged FROM THE EAST, and they're suddenly on the West side of the river.<BR>The time/transportation/distance consistency was non-existent...I found it especially bold for them to show a map in detail half way through the film when they're already cutting three day trips into day long ones etc.<BR>Maybe it wouldn't be considered a blooper, but there are like 10 ents at the entmoot, it take Treebeard the whole film to get across Fangorn, but the minute he gets mad and yells, fifty ents come right out of the tree line...now that just doesn't work.
Beruthiel
12-22-2002, 04:03 AM
This is the only mistake that I have noticed<BR>When Gandalf is walking into Meudseld, Legolas is holding his arm, next second he lets go, then he's holding him again, then he's not again.
Luinëcolloien
12-22-2002, 12:21 PM
I also noticed the horse add/removal. But all in all I didn't notice many but that might be because I've still only seen it once. <P>BTW, TolkienGurl-The Elf in the Last Alliance with his hair blown all over his face that looks like Legolas...I heard somewhere that it was Thranduil, which seems to fit.
Rose Cotton
12-22-2002, 12:52 PM
Like Tigerlily I thought Frodo had told Sam about what happened with Boromir and made an inference when Faramir told them that Boromir had died.<P>There's a flip side to that. Faramir never tells us about finding Boromir's boat. So how does he know Boromir's dead?
Eomer of the Rohirrim
12-22-2002, 01:28 PM
Just because Faramir didn't mention the boat doesn't mean he didn't see it. Extended DVD?<P>Also, maybe Merry and Pippin didn't shout out "Gandalf!" when they saw him. Maybe Gandalf just said "Everythings ok guys, now I must be off!"<P>And finally, I heard that Viggo was going to yell out anyway when he broke his toe. The crew were amazed he didn't scream like a baby and went through with the worked cry instead.
Arwen Imladris
12-22-2002, 01:29 PM
<A HREF="http://www.moviemistakes.com/film.php?filmid=2638" TARGET=_blank>Here</A> is a website that has some movie mistakes. I haven't seen TTT yet here are some of the mistakes listed at this site:<P>Just prior to the attack scene from the Orc riders you can see Aragon's horse changes from brown to white, then back to brown again. <P>Gollum is shown as sporting rather spindly limbs throughout the movie. Yet when he has his arm around Sam's neck in a close up shot (when he first meets the hobbits), the arm looks a lot more muscular and human.<P>n the scene with Aragorn tracking the hobbits footsteps away from the Orc battle, Aragorn's equipment is reversed - his sword is on his right hip, his dagger is on his left, etc<P>When Gandalf first confronts Theoden, he throws his cloak off his shoulders and it can be seen falling to his feet, it then shows another full shot and the cloak is nowhere to be seen<P>O.K. that is enouph for now, if you want more, go to the link above.
LePetitChoux
12-22-2002, 04:09 PM
Well, about the Pippin/bound/unbound hands thing, the orcs probably re-tied them or smth...
Manardariel
12-23-2002, 07:02 AM
Exactly WHY do Uruk-Hais have little leathery things around the waist.... are you trying to tell me they have genitals?? And if so, WHY???<BR>Sorry. I know that was perverted. *blush*
orlandoandsaran
12-23-2002, 07:40 AM
I was juz wondering....how do they breed orcs? I know this was mentioned in the book somewhere(or maybe it wasn't at all) but how do they? I know they DON'T hav mates....and they was one scene where an orc was hit on his genitals...I was juz wondering..heheh..not trying to be a pervert. <BR>And yeah, the WHOLE Faramir issue was totally wrong! The movie made Faramir sound like he was a totally bad guy.
the mortal elf
12-23-2002, 03:15 PM
Along with the strong Gollum arm thing, he had hair on his arm! I know he might have had some, but wouldn't 500 years in the water make it disappear somewhat? I mean, look what happened to his nice full hobbit head of hair. <P>And, I'm surprised that more people haven't mentioned this: Legolas needs to pick an eye color! Now blue, now brown. Let's move in for a close up, and they're blue. Later on in the same scene, wow! They're brown again! <P>I don't want to say anything else, because I'm once again trying to be positive. I don't think the Faramir thing was a blooper, since they meant to do it that way, but it was a rather GLARING mistake.
Forreal
12-23-2002, 03:59 PM
I just wanted to pointout that it seems a little silly to be commented on gandalfs cloak or what colour Arg. horse is when there are so many problems with the story line! Elves in Helms Deep! Fordo and Sam in Gondor and on the wrong side of the river to boot! The Lord of Rohan is a wimp it seems until he decides to ride out. All of this upset the move and I have no idea how PJ intends to bring it back. As far as I'm concerned TTT is not LOTR. Just a movie with charcters that have the same name.
Namarie
12-23-2002, 05:05 PM
When Gimli, Legolas and Aragorn are running up that hill or whatever when they zoom out you cans see tire tracks on the other mountain
Alcerin
12-23-2002, 10:02 PM
Here they are! <P><UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>During Frodo and Sam's final scene in Osgiliath, you can clearly see that the chain Frodo is wearing has gotten longer. In several shots, the chain hangs down below the shot, so you cannot see the Ring, yet in other shots the chain is within the camera shot, and the Ring is clearly visible.<BR><LI>In the scene before the battle of Helm's Deep when Legolas is arguing with Aragorn, his eyes are brown, rather than blue.<BR><LI>At the end of the film, after the battle of Helm's Deep, Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and the king ride their horses to the top of the hill to look at the lightning over Mordor. However, earlier in the film when they had been on the hill there was no sign of Mordor in the distance.<BR><LI>In Edoras, when Wormtongue is 'charming' Eowyn, his hand is cleary on her face and his person is only inches away. When Eowyn retaliates with words and gets Wormtongue's hand away from her, the next shot shows that they are over 6 feet apart from each other.<LI>During the passage of the Dead Marshes, Gollum speaks a line to Frodo and Sam that's lifted straight from the book: 'Don't follow the lights, or you'll go down and light little candles too.' In the book, the apparitions of the dead under the water seem to light ghostly candles during the night, and that's where the 'lights' that Gollum's warning them about are coming from. But in the film, the dead hold no candles, the 'lights' are flaming gouts of swamp gas, and this snippet of dialogue makes no sense. <P><LI>In any shots of Fangorn Forest from a distance it is an evergreen forest. However, when it is seen from close up or inside it is a deciduous forest. <LI>Merry and Pippin are brought by Treebeard to see Gandalf in Fangorn. Later, Aragorn, Leoglas, and Gimli are told by Gandalf that the hobbits had been there. Then Aragorn mentions Gandalf's name, and he recalls that as being his name. Now, during the hobbits' prior meeting with Gandalf, one of them would have probably called him by his name, and therefore, he would have heard it before Aragorn gets there. <BR><LI>In the scene where Gimli is explaining why there are misconceptions about there not being any Dwarven Women, Aragon makes a joke about them having beards. He is standing/walking when he makes this comment, the camera pans to someone else then its right back on him, but now he is riding a horse.<BR></UL>
Orodreth
12-24-2002, 09:01 PM
I don't know if anyone caught this, but in the scenes with Gandalf the White, he's wearing an Elven cloak and an Elven brooch over his white robe. I searched the other characters to see if they might have perhaps lended the wizard a garment, but they all still had their own. Just wondering how a deceased wizard comes back to Middle-earth wearing Elven garb...
The Silver-shod Muse
12-25-2002, 01:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Minas Morgul is not on Faramir's map <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Maybe that's not a blooper. A forewarning of cut scenes, perhaps?
Arathiriel
12-25-2002, 05:37 PM
Did I imagine it or was Gandalf wearing tennis shoes in Edoras? <P>Next time you watch TTT when it reaches the part where they comes into Theoden's throne room, look at Gandalf's feet and tell me whether or not my eyes were playing tricks on me...
Ithaeliel
12-25-2002, 07:42 PM
Another one I think I saw that no one has mentioned: In almost the very beginning, when Frodo and Sam stop to rest and Frodo takes a drink of water, I thought that I spotted a power cord hanging from the bottle... did anyone else notice that?
Arathiriel
12-25-2002, 07:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I don't know if anyone caught this, but in the scenes with Gandalf the White, he's wearing an Elven cloak and an Elven brooch over his white robe. I searched the other characters to see if they might have perhaps lended the wizard a garment, but they all still had their own. Just wondering how a deceased wizard comes back to Middle-earth wearing Elven garb... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Actually if you've read the books you'll remember Gandalf explains what happened to him after he was sent back...<P>He traveled through Lothlorien and since he was very unclothed, the Elves clothed him in the garments of their own people...<P>So no that wasn't a goof up except for the fact they didn't allow Gandalf to explain that in the movie...
Arathiriel
12-25-2002, 07:57 PM
I've got one more for you before I head off:<P>How the heck do Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli know what the Uruk-Hai are? I mean supposing didn't Saruman breed them especially for the armies of Mordor?<P>
The Silver-shod Muse
12-25-2002, 08:06 PM
At one point before the warg rider battle, Legolas carries a brown bow, and the next time he's seen, it's white.
Marsyas
12-25-2002, 08:57 PM
I've actually noticed many of these bloopers myself. But something I wanted to say is this: A friend of mine told me that when they were creating the really big battle scenes that the characters were programmed to do certain things. They each had a list of commands they could choose from. According to my friend, a group of orcs ran away-and this was NOT one of their commands. Pretty strange huh? I looked for this both times I saw the movie but the scenes are so fast that I couldn't really tell. Also that some of the creators decided to have some fun and cause someone fighting (I don't remember elf or man or orc) to suddenly stop, put away their weapon, and pull out a cell phone! There is also a pair that simply circle each other through the whole battle. Anyway, these are just things I have heard and haven't yet seen. If anyone see's these things, let me know!<P>*~Marsyas~*
the mortal elf
12-25-2002, 09:10 PM
A cell phone? I'm not saying anything...
doug*platypus
12-26-2002, 09:10 AM
Hey, Marsyas. I think what you heard was a slightly altered version. According to what I've heard from interviews, they had a program which would make every single person in each army act like they would in real life. The first time they matched the orc and elven armies up (for the intro to FOTR), they both just ran away! Perfectly understandable, I wonder why it doesn't happen in real life??
Horse-Maiden of the Shire
12-30-2002, 11:09 AM
the only blooper I noticed was Legolas' eyes and Pippin's hands. Thats quite true, because AFTER he almost got stomped on he went and cut his bonds. Gandalf in tennis shoes? I'll have to look for that next time...
My Cat Sasha
12-30-2002, 11:29 AM
Here are some more obvious ones:<P>How does Faramir know Boromir is dead? They didn't explain that in the movie.<P>Legolas never seems to run out of arrows.<P>None of the torches at Helms Deep go out when it's raining.
Eruwen
12-30-2002, 03:49 PM
Also, one my sister noticed...<P>When the women and children are in the caves at Helm's Deep, and the army comes up and walks through. (This happensafter Aragorn comes back.) If you watch closely, one of the stalactites on the ceiling of the cave wobbles back and forth.
Nurvilya
12-30-2002, 06:08 PM
No, Arathiriel, I don't think you were imagining Ganadalf's tennis shoes, I specifically noticed that too--and I didn't catch many other bloopers. I kind of thought that was weird, I mean, his robes were like half a foot above his shoes at that point so you'd think if they had Ian McKellen in tennis shoes they'd at least want to cover it up. I don't think tennis shoes were the main footwear at that time <p>[ December 30, 2002: Message edited by: Nurvilya ]
Nenya
12-30-2002, 06:19 PM
A conversation in Meduseld:<P>Aragorn: "Where's Gandalf? I haven't seen him since breakfast."<BR>Legolas: "Oh, he's just out jogging. Again. He's been madly in love with running ever since he got those Nikes from Galadriel..."
VanimaEdhel
12-30-2002, 06:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Haven't noticed too many yet; there is so much to see the first time. But, Shadowfax definitely has a saddle and ropes every now and again. Just a glimpse though; they did a good job editing that. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Actually, Shadowfax was controlled by one white wire around his neck. I saw it in some making-of. Pretty trusting of them...and pretty special for the horse. I ride: it is not easy to control many horses. Well, I suppose that, in order to be a Hollywood horse, you have to be very willing...and I think it's funny that they used a jockey's saddle on Shadowfax so that it would fit almost completely under Sir McKellan's robes.
The Silver-shod Muse
12-31-2002, 04:25 PM
When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are disarmed by Gandalf, Legolas shoots an arrow, Gimli throws his axe, and Aragorn's draws his sword. Gandalf deflects two objects that appear to be the arrow and the axe, but in the next scene Gimli is holding his axe just as before. Does he have two axes?
VanimaEdhel
12-31-2002, 04:31 PM
Gimli has many, many axes strapped all over his body. He threw one of the two throwing axes he carries near his back. He still had his big regular axe though...<P>*looks around* Who's seen too many Behind the Scenes shows? Not meeeeee...
michael
12-31-2002, 06:31 PM
Didn' t anyone noticed that the Frodo and Sm crossed Anduin TWICE, first to be in West Osgiliath (it was west wash' t it?) and then to return to Ithilien to continue their journey to Mordor? Maybe in the extended DVD version we might see them on a boat, but in the film none understood WHERE was that ruined city
Gorwingel
01-01-2003, 03:28 AM
The only one that I noticed, was when Legolas, Gimli and Aragorn are running, trying to track down Merry and Pippin. During one of the sweeping shots, you can see Legolas trip, it is pretty noticeable <p>[ January 02, 2003: Message edited by: Gorwingel ]
Armani_Elf
01-01-2003, 08:14 AM
erm.......<BR>All i can say is that...the bloopers on the movies are rather glaring, but we all have to be reminded that the movie does not tell all about the missing horses and other stuff....ah well. the movie rocks, so I wasn't trying to pay attention to any mistakes tho i've seen some. <P>erm...maybe sam has a slight idea about Boromir's death...Maybe Frodo told him about Boromir wanting his ring back in the woods in FOTR, and that kinda sparked Sam the idea that Boromir could've died from trying to steal the ring off......bah!<P>peace
Armani_Elf
01-01-2003, 08:15 AM
erm.......<BR>All i can say is that...the bloopers on the movies are rather glaring, but we all have to be reminded that the movie does not tell all about the missing horses and other stuff....ah well. the movie rocks, so I wasn't trying to pay attention to any mistakes tho i've seen some. <P>erm...maybe sam has a slight idea about Boromir's death...Maybe Frodo told him about Boromir wanting his ring back in the woods in FOTR, and that kinda sparked Sam the idea that Boromir could've died from trying to steal the ring off......bah!<P>peace
MYyyPreciousSS
01-02-2003, 02:07 PM
Another thing that I don't think has been mentioned is when Legolas, Aragorn, Gimli and Gandalf are walking up to King Theoden, the first time, Legolas is linking arms with Gandalf supposedly to make him look old. Once they're inside Legolas lets go, but in the next shot they are back to being linked. I noticed that the first time seeing the movie.
I don't know about anyone else, but i hate all those little minor deatils they changed. For instance at the entmoot, Treebeard says that, the war is not for ents, and that they must weather the storm. In the book they ents get real mad and and attack Saruman right away, without being encouraged by Merry And Pippin. Another thing is with Faramir. He never took them to to Osgiliath. But instead lets them go right away. In the movie he says "tell my father I am bringing a mighty gift". In the book he never says that, in fact Deneathor is mad Faramir did not bring him the "mighty gift".
Tigerlily Gamgee
01-05-2003, 11:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>In the scene where Gimli is explaining why there are misconceptions about there not being any Dwarven Women, Aragon makes a joke about them having beards. He is standing/walking when he makes this comment, the camera pans to someone else then its right back on him, but now he is riding a horse.<BR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If you look again, he is on the horse when he delivers that line.<P>Here's something that no one has noticed yet...<BR>When Aragorn, Theoden, Legolas and Theoden's men are charging the orcs (Forth Eorlingas) and you see the shot from behind as the orcs fall off of the causeway (is that what it's called?) look next to Legolas... Eowyn? Yup, indeed... there is a computer generated Eowyn riding next to Legolas attacking orcs as she goes. <BR>Now, we all know that she was not really there, so perhaps not all of plan "A" was erased.<P>Another one... when Eowyn is telling Theoden that his son is dead she is in a blue dress... minutes later she is with a dead Theodred in her white dress with her hair all down.
Armani_Elf
01-06-2003, 09:03 AM
okay this might sound ancient....<P>but someone said about aragorn's teleportation when he jumped into the sea of urukhais in halm's deep...and suddenly he was back up there.<P>he didn't teleport. he ran back up.<P>peace
Isenna
01-06-2003, 06:34 PM
Yay! Someone else noticed the Legolas/Gandalf arm thing that coencides with the staff thing. I thought that was pretty bad. <P>My favorite is when Aragorn yells "Ladders!" and Gimli says "Good!" Aragorn just happened to be speaking elvish right then. Now, I don't know much about Tengwar and Cirth, but they seem really different to me. Not like Spanish, English and French, more like English and Japenese. So I don't think the elvish and dwarvish words could be that similer. Correct me if I'm wrong here. <P>Has anyone watched the Lorien clasps? It'll be interesting to see how many times they change directions.
Isenna i agree with you all the way. In fact i noticed that myself. I doubt very much wether Gimli speaks Elvish. Although it is plausible that other people in the battle saw the ladders too and shouted. But it seems as though what Gimli says is in direct response to what Aragorn says. <BR>?????????????<BR>Who knows, We'll probably never know unless Peter Jackson gives us a briefing, which is not going to happen, so we'll just have to keep guessing
Frodo Baggins
01-07-2003, 09:22 PM
Another 'blooper' over Eowyn/Grima scene.......<P>When Grima is trying to woo Eowyn hes looking right and facing her looking left. But when she stomps out of the room, Grima is standing in the place Eowyn was seconds before, and she walks away from his place.<P>Also, I don't know if this is a blooper or not but Gimli had Grima pinned to the floor under his foot. But a little bit later Gimli has him by the back of his robe and Grima is on hands and knees on the floor. How did he wiggle out from under Gimli's foot?<p>[ January 07, 2003: Message edited by: Frodo Baggins ]
maikafanawen
01-08-2003, 04:21 PM
Sometime before christmas Arathiriel wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> How the heck do Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli know what the Uruk-Hai are? I mean supposing didn't Saruman breed them especially for the armies of Mordor?<BR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Didn't Celeborn tell Aragorn about the Uruk-Hai when they were in Lothlorien after Moria in Fotr? Maybe all he said was something about "...orcs bearing the white-hand of Saruman..." But that at least let him know they were Saruman's doing. I don't know if he actually mentioned Uruk-Hai. Does anyone know?
Mattius
01-08-2003, 04:27 PM
I have a blooper from TTT, in Helm's Deep when the Uruk Hai are breaking down the final door and Aragorn and Theoden decide to "ride out and mee them head on" where the hell do their horses come from?? There in a cave for God's sake!
The Saucepan Man
01-08-2003, 05:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Didn't Celeborn tell Aragorn about the Uruk-Hai when they were in Lothlorien after Moria in Fotr? Maybe all he said was something about "...orcs bearing the white-hand of Saruman..." But that at least let him know they were Saruman's doing. I don't know if he actually mentioned Uruk-Hai. Does anyone know? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>In FotR (possibly just the extended version?), just before the Fellowship leaves Lothlorien, Celeborn tells Aragorn that orcs that could travel by day had been seen on the borders of their realm, ending with the wonderful line "You are being tracked". But I don't think he actually referred to them as Uruk-Hai. Perhaps it means "New, improved Orcs" in the Black Speech.
Nieninque
01-08-2003, 06:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Did you know that when Aragorn kicks the helm (by the pile of burning orcs) that he yells because he just broke his toe? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That is so cool! I remember thinking in the theater, "Damn, that is some powerful yelling!" Now I know why <P>Bloopers? I think the Hasufel-not-being-grey think has been mentioned already... and Legolas was supposed to take the saddle off of Arod... but I was too wrapped up in the movie to look for bloopers. I need to see it again!
King_Elessar
01-13-2003, 11:47 AM
Here are a few things I know and noticed:<P>PJ is one of the Wildmen, and he also throws a stone down at the orcs in Helm's Deep.<P>One of the Rohirrim is wearing sunglasses.<P>Halèth son of Hama is the child of Phillipa Boyens, writer of the film. When you see Halèth, you see a quick shot of a boy standing, hair falling over his eyes - this is Henry, Viggo's son.<P>Viggo breaks his toe, poor Vig!!<P>Bye - Elessar
King_Elessar
01-13-2003, 02:37 PM
Desipite my above post, I have just been on TheOneRing.net and found out that Calum Gittins plays Haleth son of Hama, is this Phillipa's son or not?
Thanks for all the bloopers! (though I haven't had the time to read them all )
Lindril Arvilya
01-13-2003, 03:08 PM
Ok, maybe I missed an explanation of this whole "Elven psychic" thing, but here's my opinion. <BR>Haldir: I bring a message from Elrond of Rivendell...(goes on about the old allinces and so on)<BR>Haldir is a Lorien elf, not a Rivendell one... how'd they get the message? Maybe in the same way Elrond is receiving Galadriel's thoughts....
The Saucepan Man
01-13-2003, 05:52 PM
It's not really a blooper as such, but did anyone else notice that the scene in TTT where Saruman's Dunlendings attack the village in Rohan was also one of the shots used to portray Sauron's conquest of ME before he was defeated by the Last Alliance of Elves and Men at the beginning of FotR.<P>That's a bit cheap isn't it? They could have shot some different footage.
Vardadurwen
01-13-2003, 05:55 PM
In the movie, Faramir does tell Frodo and Sam that Boromir is dead, and so, since Frodo had probably told Sam about how Boromir tried to take the ring, Sam put two and two together; and the scripters probably thought we would do the same...maybe hehe, althought it was really obscure. <P>But yeah, just wanted to let everyone know that Faramir did indeed tell Frodo and Sam that Boromis is dead, just because everyone thought is was a huge mistake how Sam knew that Boromir had died.
King_Elessar
01-14-2003, 10:05 AM
Saucepan Man, PJ has been taking parts of film used in FOTR, and he has used them again in TTT There is one scene with loads of Isengard, with exactly the same piece of film AND the same music.
Isenna
01-14-2003, 01:04 PM
Oh yeah! I saw that too, I just forgot about it! Reusing scenes. That really ticked me off!<P>About the ladders thing. Perhaps Legolas did teach Gimli some elvish, but 'ladders'? Um, even if he did translate when they were climbing into the trees when they first got to Lorien, do you think Gimli would have remembered it? I doubt it. And he was definetly saying it in direct reply to Aragorn.
maiden of the Shire
01-14-2003, 01:26 PM
Some of these mistakes aren't necessarily mistakes...Eowyn's dress changing, she could have changed, Legolas holding Gandalf's arm-Gandalf takes his arm away then reaches back to Legolas.
HCIsland
01-14-2003, 01:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Didn't Celeborn tell Aragorn about the Uruk-Hai when they were in Lothlorien after Moria in Fotr? Maybe all he said was something about "...orcs bearing the white-hand of Saruman..." But that at least let him know they were Saruman's doing. I don't know if he actually mentioned Uruk-Hai. Does anyone know? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Gandalf knew all about the Uruk-hai thanks to his imprisonment by Saruman (hell, Saruman probably bragged about it). In fact, there is a very obvious scene in Rivendell where he is telling Elrond, "Saruman is breading orcs with goblin men ...". It should be expected that he would have talked to Aragorn about the same thing.<P>H.C.
The Saucepan Man
01-14-2003, 06:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Gandalf knew all about the Uruk-hai thanks to his imprisonment by Saruman (hell, Saruman probably bragged about it). In fact, there is a very obvious scene in Rivendell where he is telling Elrond, "Saruman is breading orcs with goblin men ...". It should be expected that he would have talked to Aragorn about the same thing. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ah, but Gandalf obviously never saw fit to share this information with the rest of the Fellowship, since (in the extended DVD of FotR), when Celeborn tells Aragorn of orcs that can travel by day, Aragorn does not react as if this is old news. And Celeborn does not, I think, refer to them as Uruk-Hai ...<P>... And what exactly are "goblin men" anyway? I thought that Uruk Hai were orcs crossed with men, plain and simple. If goblins had already been crossed with men, Saruman would not have needed to create the Uruk Hai - just get the goblin men to do a little body building.
HCIsland
01-14-2003, 06:56 PM
I wouldn't read to much into Aragorn expression with Celeborn. It's not like he would have roled his eyes and said, "thanks, know that". Actually, the information that would have been new to him would have been that there were Uruks right to the borders of Lothlorien.<P>Either way, I think Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas had more then enough information to know that the orcs coming their way in Helm's Deep were "Uruk hai".<P>As for the "goblin men" ... you know it never struck me that way before. I always took it as meaning male goblins as opposed to half-goblins. Anyway, it sounds good. Besides, wasn't that line right out of the book? I would have to check.<P>H.C.<p>[ January 14, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]
HCIsland
01-16-2003, 09:36 AM
Regarding compass directions.<P>It was mentioned that having Eomer say they are riding north after first meeting Aragorn and company is wrong. I don't think it is within the context of the film. For the riders of East Emnet, riding north doesn't mean they're getting out their compasses and going due north (which leads into Fangorn). It means they're going into the Wold and considering they are orc hunting, that is the logical place they would go. I know it will be argued that they should go west to help in the Westfold, but Eomer wasn't there when those two kids arrived to inform them of what was happening that way. Ah, but didn't Theodred die defending the Westfold. You're thinking of the book. In the film it simply says he was ambushed by orcs and it was obvious from the news from the two kids that Theoden did not know about any attacks to the west yet.<P>Now as for Legolas saying the orcs are turning north-east to Isengard when it should have been north-west, I think that is a mistake. Maybe it will be overdubbed for the DVD.<P>H.C.<P>Editted to add: I think East Emnet should be Eastfold. Bloody Rohan geography. <P>[ January 16, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]<p>[ January 16, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]
Aratlithiel
01-16-2003, 10:22 AM
How about when Sam tells Frodo to use the Ring to escape from Faramir? They're sitting in an alcove against some barrels, Sam is on Frodo's right. When Faramir comes in, all of a sudden they're in a different room, sitting on their bedrolls (which weren't there a couple seconds ago), no barrels in sight and Sam is on Frodo's left. I don't know about you guys, but I'm hoping for an ext. version DVD scene right about there.
Aratlithiel
01-16-2003, 10:28 AM
I just have to say this - although technically it's not a blooper but what seems to me an inconsistency...<P>Why would Faramir, after witnessing Frodo attempting to give the One Ring to a Ringwraith (or at least put it on and give himself up), tell him that he finally understands and let him go? Wouldn't a reasonable person, after seeing such a thing, conclude that they were doing the right thing in taking the Ring away from someone who appears to be so unreliable?<P>Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?<P>Then again I'm a LotR reader and am fairly unhappy with alot of the changes so maybe I'm just biased.
The Saucepan Man
01-16-2003, 02:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Why would Faramir, after witnessing Frodo attempting to give the One Ring to a Ringwraith (or at least put it on and give himself up), tell him that he finally understands and let him go? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I agree. It does seem a very strange way of bringing about Faramir's "understanding" of Frodo. Perhaps its supposed to show his realisation of the power of the Ring and its destructive effect on the Ringbearer. But it's hardly likely to inspire him with confidence in Frodo, is it?<P>Do Jackson & co explain their thinking behind this in any interviews?
Balin999
01-17-2003, 09:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Did I imagine it or was Gandalf wearing tennis shoes in Edoras?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I know what you mean. I thought that he was wearing them when I saw the movie for the first time, the second time I noticed that he is just wearing light and white shoes. at least in the second scene where you see his feet
Calavanya
01-18-2003, 12:44 PM
Why, I thought the elves wore only light shoes, made of something that looks like silk or thin leather. Maybe it doesn't matter... What annoys me is that the warriors in the battle are pretty cheerful. Concerning that the atmosphere in the book and the mood of the characters wasn't anything like it... They were all frightened, if not hopeless. Do I sound stupid?
Blue Elf
01-21-2003, 12:28 AM
This isn't exactly a "movie mistake" but I think if you guys haven't seen it already, you''l get some laughs out of this site. What it is is a site which has the *very bad* subtitles from a bootleg copy of FotR, and I don't mean grammarical mistakes, I mean that orcs are now ox, and Legolas is now the heir of Condo (Gondor). Well, my description degrades it, but really, it is really funny!!!<BR><A HREF="http://users3.ev1.net/~eekfrenzy/captionspage/badfotrcaptionsx.html" TARGET=_blank>Bad FotR Captions</A>
Blue Elf
01-21-2003, 12:29 AM
P.S. If someone already put this link in, then I am sorry for wasting everyone's time, if not, than I hope you enjoyed the lin *above*.
Nibinlondwen
01-21-2003, 01:40 AM
its not a real bloop, but if you look at the horses when gandalf and eomer comes down over the hill to helms deep, you will see that the horses are running on plain ground, not downwards. it looks realy stupid.
Aratlithiel
01-21-2003, 07:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> you''l get some laughs out of this site <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>LOL - Boy, I'll say. All this time I thought Frodo was a Ring-bearer...turns out he's a Wing-baron. Go figure.<P>Thanks for the link. Lotsa chuckles.
Blue Elf
01-21-2003, 12:46 PM
You're welcome for the link. My siblings thought I had gone insane, when they came into my room and I was laughing too hard to speak. Then again, they never saw the movie...<P>AAAH!! The ox are attacking!! Hear the horn of Condo!!<P>Oh, something that really nagged me in the movie, it isn't a real blooper but as far as I know, smoke isn't white, and the pile of orc carcasses had white misty stuff coming off that was supposed to be smoke.<P>And the scene with the ents tearing up Isengard (die Isengard!!) when one of the ents caught on fire, the fire, though it was computer done, was still really bad and fake looking. If they can make Gollum, why not fire?<P>Um....yeah...that's all for now...
Lady Iverin
02-17-2003, 07:58 PM
Blue Elf, those captions were soooooo funny! I know everybody else is saying it but thank you so much. Btw, I didn't really notice any bloopers even though I've seen it three times. I'll have to watch the extended version closely....
Eressië Ailin
02-17-2003, 08:09 PM
For the people who don't know about horses: they only have pink and/or back skin under the hair. Shadowfax was supposed to be an all white horse. The nose was clearly black!!! Though I don't really blame PJ, entirely white horses are very rare.
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