Anyone Spot PJ in TTT?

[Iarwain]

During the battle at Helm's Deep, I thought I spotted a furry faced chubby man who looked awfuly familliar. I was wondering if anyone else saw PJ among the Rohirrim. <p>[ January 11, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ]

[Diamond18]

I heard someone on the Downs say that he was one of the Dunlendings, but I did not see him myself.

[mordor136]

its possible he made an appearance in TTT because he also made an appearance as an inhabitant of bree in FOTR.

[Diamond18]

I just saw this on imdb.com in the trivia section:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Director Cameo: [Peter Jackson] In the tower at Helm's Deep throwing a spear.<BR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Iarwain]

I knew it!<P>Thanks, Diamond!

[-Imrahil-]

Knew it! He throws that spear when the orcs are rushing the gate. Didn't recognize him until now.<p>[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: -Imrahil- ]

[Coral]

Uh huh, I'll have to look for it...Someone was complaining because they thought it was so obvious, I don't know what they were looking at

[Arwen Evenstar the Fair]

Yes, I also saw him at Helm's Deep!!! I leaned over and told my friend, "Look that was Peter Jackson!!" He was so easy to spot.

[Nenya]

Wehey! It's time for some Peter-searching... In a tower at Helm's deep, you say? Could someone plese help stupid ol' me, and tell me when exactly he can be seen...? After/before what?

[Lhunbelethiel]

I didn't notice him and I was looking for him too! I noticed his kids in the caves at Helm's Deep though. (with their hair dyed blonde! Aren't they just gorgeous??) I heard a rumor that PJ's wife makes a cameo in most of his movies, does anyone know if she was in FOTR or TTT?<P>(BTW, I saw TTT again today and enjoyed it even more... There is so much to it... Amazing effort by PJ!)

[Aengthrea Greenleaf Of Mirkwood]

Was PJ in FOTR too? If he was can any of you tell me where he was spotted please

[Child of the 7th Age]

OneRing.net said this:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>PJ Cameos<BR>Look out for two quick appearances by Peter Jackson in TTT. One is amongst<BR>the crowd of wild men, as they run towards the camera after Saruman's pep<BR>talk; the other is on the wall of Helm's Deep. Nikolaj writes: "As the<BR>Uruk-Hais are trying to batter down the gate to the castle, the defenders<BR>open some sort of shutters and hurl rocks at the attackers.PJ is one of the<BR>rock-hurlers. You see him briefly. He is carrying a piece chain armor not<BR>only covering the body but also with a kind of hood." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Did anyone see those?<P>sharon

[Pukel-Man]

I was too annoyed to notice the first time arround. I'll have to look next time I see TTT.

[DarkRose]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Was PJ in FOTR too? If he was can any of you tell me where he was spotted please<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yes, I can tell you. <P>When the hobbits are scuttling down the dark, rainy street towards the Prancing Pony, Peter Jackson can be seen. He is one of the men. The camera shows him as the hobbits are passing by. He is eating a carrot, and he burps.

[Aengthrea Greenleaf Of Mirkwood]

Really? Thank you very much I'am going to go watch it now!

[the mortal elf]

I finally saw him after the third time of searching. Kind of hard to spot him without bare feet and glasses, huh? I don't know what his kids look like, but I want to see them too. Anyone have a description for me? If he has a daughter and she's the little one with big brown eyes they keep doing close ups of, he's the luckiest guy in the world! She's adorable!

[doug*platypus]

Gee, ma! Say it isn't so! I'm sure you guys are right about PJ being in TTT, but I wish that he wasn't. A cameo as one character is okay, but when he starts popping up everywhere, it's obvious he doesn't care as much as he says he does about the integrity of the story. I was infuriated to see those lovable hobbit-children recast as kids in the Caves of Aglarond. They stand out so much, I think it's insulting for the moviemakers to think noone would notice. I'm pretty sure there's a Maori guy with long black hair who is in both Rohan and Ithilien, too.<P>Continuity errors like Aragorn's sword in FOTR are one thing, purposely casting people in two different roles that close to the camera is just ridiculous. Errors of judgment like that fly in the face of all the other hard work that was put into the movies.

[Maeglin]

But PJ has always showed up in evry movie he has made! He got that from Hitchkock who did the same thing in his movies.

[Auriel Haevasawen]

I spotted his children more easily than him. That little girl has eyes so big I'm surprised she's not related to Gollum. I would presume they're wearing wigs though, it would take a particularly disturbed parent to bleach their own child's hair!<BR>Anyway trying to find PJ is just an excellent excuse to go and watch it again. I see the mistakes, in fact they made me a tad on the cross side then I thought **** it, it's got to be better than anything else I've seen in years, and it is. Heigho.<BR>Happy New Year everyone.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here is a page with pictures of the various <A HREF="http://www.herr-der-ringe-movie.de/news-details172.htm" TARGET=_blank>TTT cameos</A>, including the children of Peter Jackson, of Philippa Boyens and of Viggo Mortensen.

[Galadrie1]

Thanks for the link, Estelyn! I didn't know those were Peter Jackson's kids! They're <I>so</I> cute! My friend and I went to see the movie together, and whenever the kids showed up on screen we'd go "Awwww!" <BR>All those kids are so lucky to be in that movie.... *Just a <I>tad</I> jealous.*

[Alex Chamois]

Heh, I too was offended by the cute big-eyed hobbits also starring as the cute big-eyed children. Makes more sense now that you lovely people have enlightened me, but when you don't know they're his kids you assume they were just too lazy to get different kids.

[Gorwingel]

I only spotted him once<P>I do not think that it is bad that he had his kids, because do you think that maybe they were a little older when they filmed this part, than when they first filmed the Hobbiton scenes

[Guildo]

I also saw his two youngins, in the caves of helms deep, the look a bit different becouse they have blonde hair but i could sware its them, you cant miss those big ole cute eyes

[Lady_Báin]

i knew that random carrot guy was a bit too randow (i mean there's a random guy doing his favorite passtime- eating carrots in the pouring rain in a muddy street just a tad out of place ) that is so funny though my face hurts now. heehee <P>diamond could you post a link, i can't seem to find my way around that site <p>[ December 30, 2002: Message edited by: Lady_Báin ]

[Diamond18]

<A HREF="http://us.imdb.com/Trivia?0167261" TARGET=_blank>Here</A> is the TTT trivia page on <A HREF="http://imdb.com" TARGET=_blank>IMDb.com</A>.

[doug*platypus]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I do not think that it is bad that he had his kids, because do you think that maybe they were a little older when they filmed this part, than when they first filmed the Hobbiton scenes <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I'd have to say you have a good point here... <B>IF</B> in Middle-Earth Hobbit children in The Shire somehow grow up to be Men-children in Rohan. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that just because something is in the book doesn't mean it shouldn't be changed - but let's try to be realistic!<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> But PJ has always showed up in evry movie he has made! He got that from Hitchkock who did the same thing in his movies. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah, and Quentin Tarantino did that a lot too, despite being a terrible actor! However, I don't think either of these two would have appeared in the same story as two different characters (although maybe someone out there knows of such a case?). I have never talked to PJ, but I've formed an impression of him being a really friendly, nice and down-to-earth person. I think, however, he has let his ego get away from him this time, and should've been content as a Dunlending.

[Guildo]

I like the fact that he always plays an insignificant character in in the movies, someone that doesnt realy matter, it shows he cares more about the movie than his own fame, yet still giving them his custom signiture. <P>If any one has ever seen Heavenly Creatures he has a little 2 second shot where he is a bum, i thought that was a cool fact to add.

[pherostien]

I thought I saw him. I thought that he threw a rock not a spear. my friends didn't see him.

[LePetitChoux]

I didn't see him at Helm's Deep, but here he is with the wild men: (the one on the immediate left of Saruman I believe)<P>

[Ringfenwen]

Can i just ask, i can't read german, and can't work out who's son the kid who plays Haleth is, any1 know?<P>Viggo's son looks so different here, I've seen pics of him on the fotr extended edition, but he's always looked older and chubbier, it was quite a surprise to find out who he was!

[ElentariGreenleaf]

COOL! I'll have to go and see TTT again now! I'll watch FotR tomorrow!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

The young actor who plays Haleth is the son of Philippa Boyens, who wrote the script with Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh.

[PeregrinTook]

I saw PJ and his kids the second time I saw the movie! I wasn't paying attention the first time: I just wanted to enjoy it.

[thunder_goddess]

I heard that Peter Jackson had his kids chase Gandalf for fireworks in FoTr, but i've also heard that that's not true. Can somebody clear this up for me?????<P>------------------------------<P>"Help me master, I'm drownded." ~ Samwise

[thunder_goddess]

woops, never mind i got it

[Annúntindomeiel]

Where is PJ in the FotR?

[Pookabunny]

In TTT during the Helm's deep battle, there's a close-up of PJ lifting a hatched door, then throwing a spear. It's towards the latter half of the battle. I finally saw it while watching the film for the third time.<P>In FOTR, he's in Bree eating a carrot - then he burps. It's right after they walk in through the gate.<p>[ February 01, 2003: Message edited by: Pookabunny ]

[HCIsland]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Where is PJ in the FotR? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>As the hobbits walk through Bree, he's disheveled man with the carrot.<P>"What's up doc?"<P>I believe a number of the hobbit kids were kids of production people.<P>H.C.

[Iarwain]

Next time I see TTT I'll have to look for Alan Lee in the Armory room. I never noticed him!

[HCIsland]

Cool, I didn't know that. I did know he was one of the nine men to receive rings in the prologue of FoTR.<P>H.C.

[Iarwain]

really... I didn't know <I>that</I><P>I'll have to look at the prologue really quick... <P>*runs to television and puts in extended edition dvd*<P>Iarwain

[Tar-Palantir]

Iarwain - John Howe is on the Right and Alan Lee is on the Left. Both are second from the rear.

[Iarwain]

Cool, I saw them. Its sort of hard to make out their faces, but you can tell that its them! Thanks guys!

[HCIsland]

For those that want to look for PJ in his other films.<P>The Frighteners: Michael J. Fox runs into a kind of punkish man with a cloaked death figure T-shirt.<P>Heavenly Creatures: After leaving a film, Kate Winslet kisses a tramp.<P>H.C.

[Iarwain]

It's funny the kinds of extras he casts himself as... <P>Iarwain

[BethoHOG]

The second time I watched The Two Towers, I did see Peter Jackson throwing the rock or spear or whatever it was... after I noticed PJ, my brother whispers rather loudly in my ear, "It's Peter Jackson!" Then I reply, "Hehe, I know."

[Yavanna Kementari]

I think that PJ using his kids in the Shire and in Rohan is very endearing. I can see how he used them to depict the love of peace and happiness in the Shire that was brought to the screen and how using them in the Helms Deep scene would help him to create a more realistic threat of losing your family. <P> I got a very real scense of danger from that scene, so real it brough tears to my eyes. Maybe it's just me but as a parent there are things that can be relayed better when you put yourself and the ones you love in those situations.<P> And if your dad was the director of LotR wouldn't you want to say when you grew up "Ya thats me the little hobbit there on the right," or "I was in LotR!"<P> If I was the director you bet I'd use my kids if I could. And as a parent, you wouldn't believe how much your kids change in three years! You probably wouldn't even know it was PJ's kids if you hadn't read it some where. (Thats okay we are all sickly obsessed) Viggo's little boy is so cute!<BR> <BR>HCIsland I like the whats up doc!! LOL<BR>Elentari Greenleaf I love ypur Avatar!!!<BR>This is a Cool thread!<BR>P.S. Stephen King always makes unimportant cameos in his movies. I think it's cool to see them in thier own movies!!! I would want to be in my own movie too! Just to say, "I wa in that movie," and " Why yes, I am an acting director!"

[The Saucepan Man]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> For those that want to look for PJ in his other films. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>He does have rather a Hitchcockian tendency to appear in all his films, doesn't he. <P>One of his first films was the wonderfully bad and tasteless <I>Bad Taste</I>, in which he took a leading role. He gets hit on the head or something and his brains start falling out, so he spends the rest of the film trying to hold them in. <P>He also appears (as one of the monkey hunters) in the equally tasteless (but far superior) <I>Braindead</I>.<P>Both are well worth a watch (as long as you have a strong stomach) to see the beginnings of one who has become a major player in the film world.

[HCIsland]

I've been hunting for these films but have yet to find them. The town I live in is pretty small unfortunately.<P>H.C.

[Lucinda]

The hobbit children were PJ's kids?! All of them? there were about six. And the little girl looks just like my three year old cousin...

[Novlamothien]

Not all the kids, just two, a girl and a boy. I would show pics but I have no clue as to where to find them. <BR> I had no idea so many people had cameos in the movies. I suppose it is time to pull my trusty dvd's out and have a look.<P> Namarie

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I have a postscript to add to this thread - I just watched the TTT EE with the director/authors' commentary track turned on, and found out that Peter Jackson did indeed have only one cameo appearance in TTT - as the Rohirrim on the tower of Helm's Deep. He didn't have time when the Wild Men were being filmed, so he was not in the scene which some had thought to be another cameo.

[Annalaliath]

Okay than what's up with the picture, his evil twin? <P>I was like the only person in my family to notice PJ in his camio in the FOTR.<p>[ November 23, 2003: Message edited by: Annalaliath ]

[Finwe]

It just might be Peter Jackson's evil twin!!!! <P><BR>Either Henry (Mortensen) lost a LOT of weight, or the camera did some serious retouching in that scene, because in the FotR EE, when I saw pictures of him of a couple of years ago, he was a lot chubbier. Unless, of course,they put him in a fat-suit or something, because he looked like he was wearing a Hobbit-costume.