Boromir's death scene

[Annunfuiniel]

Everyone here remembers the death of Boromir in FoTR. Now when Boromir knows his time has come he reaches for a sword and as A. gives it to him he says his last words: "I would have followed you my brother...my captain...my king!"<BR>Now what do you think, was the sword in question A.Boromir's or B.Aragorn's? And, consecutively, how should those words be interpreted? Was that Boromir's (late) oath of allegiance to Aragorn through A's sword? That's what I thought it might be but I'd gladly here some other opinions.

[Meela]

i thought that was Boromirs sword and he was just preparing to die like a true warrior, ie. holding his sword. but now you put it like that, i can see why it could have been aragorns sword, and boromir was using it to swear an oath to aragorn. or he was swearing it on his own sword.<BR>as for the words, im thinking he saw at that moment that aragorn was a great man, and kingly an' all, and had boromir lived, he would have served this great king. either that, or because aragorn had said that he would not let the white city fall, that was all boromir cared about and only loved aragorn because he said he'd protect it.

[Davin]

I am almost 100% sure that it is Boromir's sword.......atleast in the movie it is, and it is not mentioned in the books.. as far as I remember....

[HCIsland]

I gotta agree. I'm almost positive it is Boromir wanting to die with his sword in his hand. Warrior thing.<P>It's kinda funny. In the commentary in the SE, there's talk that they were thinking of taking out the "my brother, my captain, my king" line. I don't understand why unless they were worried some folks might take it too literally and think, "Whaa? Aragorn and Boromir are brothers?" Actually, my Mom nudged me and asked me that when she saw the film. I'm glad they kept it. <P>H.C.

[Peri]

I think it was Boromir's sword. The significance is that Boromir is a Gondorian, and Aragorn is the heir to the throne of Gondor. I think that is where the significance lies. That's why he calls Aragorn his brother, his king, his captain.

[Rynoah, the Overly-Happy]

<A HREF="http://store.barrowdowns.com/prodimg/UC1299-Striders-ranger-swd.jpg" TARGET=_blank>Here</A> is Aragorn's Ranger Sword.<P><A HREF="http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/swords_tn.jpg" TARGET=_blank>Here</A> is a picture of Boromir's sword before and after fighting the Uruk-Hai.<P>I can't seem to find a picture of Boromir actually holding the sword as he says his final oath, but take a look at it. It's his sword.<P>If you think about it, Gondorians are like Vikings in a way. They're proud peoples and they use circular shields. So, shouldn't they also want to die a warrior's death: with a sword in hand? Vikings believed that a warrior that died without a sword in his hand would not go to Valhalla (I think that's what it's called) so... maybe.<p>[ February 24, 2003: Message edited by: Rynoah, the Overly-Happy ]

[avarrogion]

Well after viewing the death scene a couple of times, i realise that the sword which Boromir asked for is actually his sword and not Aragorn`s.<BR>And the oath was on his sword. About the viking thing, you`re right Rynoah, the Overly-Happy.

[the real nazgul]

well, think about it like this: if it was aragorns sword, then when they sail the boat (with boromir's body) over the waterfall, aragorn would not have his sword anymore, would he? (or hes very good at diving over waterfalls)<P>And the viking thing;Good idea. <p>[ February 25, 2003: Message edited by: the real nazgul ]

[Rynoah, the Overly-Happy]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>aragorn would not have his sword anymore, would he? (or hes very good at diving over waterfalls)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Pochahontaragorn? I can just see him taking a swan dive off the Falls of Rauros. Why not? He fell off a cliff in TTT.

[Meela]

noooo! bad images of aragorn in a dress! *screams

[Rina]

Also, Aragorn's sword at this point is Anduril, the sword that was reforged of the Shards of Narsil. I don't think he would let it go over the falls. <BR>I believe that Boromir had his own sword and he was pledging his loyalty to Aragorn, much as the members of the Fellowship pledged to Frodo at the Council of Elrond "You have my sword....and my bow....and my ax."<BR>And I like the point about the resemblance to the Viking tradition. Very perceptive.

[Eressië Ailin]

AAAHHHHHHH!!!!! You guys are so mean to Aragorn!!!! Why can't you pick on Legolas? You'd make a lot more enemies that way.

[Dark Shadow]

I think it's Boromir's sword. Doesn't Aragorn drop his before he kneels down? And there's the whole "warrior's death". I think that's brough across by how Aragorn places Boromir's hand (with sword) on his chest. Aragorn wouldn't have done it based on an oath, because Aragorn didn't know Boromir was going to say it. (Well one would assume not.)<P>I think the little speech was, as well as swearing an oath to Aragorn, partly to make Boromir feel better. He'd disrespected Aragorn throughout the whole story, he'd tried to take the ring from Frodo, and now he's found out that Aragorn was able to let Frodo go. He's probably feeling a bit inferior by now, so he apologises for it all. Well, it's just how I've always looked at it.

[Rynoah, the Overly-Happy]

I can see Legolas taking a swan dive off of the Falls of Rauros too... only I see him landing in a bloody heap on a rock or something. Boy, I'm evil. <P>Rina: Thank you very much.

[HCIsland]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Also, Aragorn's sword at this point is Anduril, the sword that was reforged of the Shards of Narsil. I don't think he would let it go over the falls. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Although I agree with everyone saying that the sword is Boromir's, Aragorn has yet to receive the sword mentioned above in the movie. I think most of us are pretty sure Anduril will show up in RoTK though.<P>H.C.

[Himaran]

How did boromir's sword break? It was only the hilt that he was holding!!!<P>Himaran

[HCIsland]

I don't think it was broken. You only see the hilt when he is talking with Aragorn, but later he has the whole sword when his body is in the boat.<P>At least, that is how I remember it.<P>H.C.

[Rynoah, the Overly-Happy]

Yes, the sword was complete. They just didn't show it past the hilt during the death scene.

[sassyfriend]

You guys picking on 2 of my favorites!!!!! :D And yes it is Boromir's sword not Aragorn's.