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Arwen Melian
11-05-2002, 06:19 PM
Last year my friends and I went to see the movie at the theatre. Afterwards, everyone said they loved it, except one. He ( my friend will remain anonomous being that he might be reading this right now since he is such an anti-LOTR obssessed person; he goes online to anti LOTR websites. He even goes on websites like this and pretends he likes Tolkien..so watch out for anyone suspicious.)<BR>said the movie "sucked", and that he hated it because it had no ending." That wizard guy should have used some sort of magical shield to block the snow on the mountain,"<BR>he says,"and that blonde elf dude, why does he not sink in the snow? Oh and how come he has no sword, all he has are those stupid little arrows that do nothing. I could have made a better movie.You are so wierd to watch such a lame movie. And I thought elves were short. This movie is so cliche and FAKE!" Those were his words, and as I stood there I could not seem to bring any words to my mouth because I was so angry. I also felt like laughing because ..well..you would laugh if you saw the expression on his face. It was as if someone had insulted his mother,<BR>and he was threatening to fight back! What would you have said to him in this situation that would not be insulting ( being that he is a good friend.) Also, have you had any similiar situations? What did you do?

Diamond18
11-05-2002, 06:36 PM
I would say, "You're just trying to upset me, aren't you?"

Helkasir
11-05-2002, 06:52 PM
judging by your friends arguements, I'd say he's a stupid person.<P>That's just me.<P>My friends excuses are "It's boring" or " There's no plot"

Arwen Melian
11-05-2002, 06:57 PM
Well, you might be right in some ways but he smart in others.

Pookabunny
11-05-2002, 08:44 PM
There are some people who just can't handle the fact that this story is an EPIC TRILLOGY and that requires a non-traditional, non-hollywood "ending".<P>If people want an "ending", tell them not to watch ANY of the films until they ALL come out on home-release. That way if they want a damn ending, they're going to have to watch almost 10 hours of LOTR movies to get their ENDIND!<P>Imagine the look on that dude's face if he had read Fellowship (if he can even read :-) - the movie had more closue to it then the book did!<P>I have friends too that can't understand why I'm so into these films and the books - I then realize that most people are better off instantly gratified - and that's probably the reason why they can't handle the long, painful, intense struggle that these characters are going through.<P>And to your friend who said he can make a better movie - I'd tell him feel free and go right ahead. Maybe your circle of friends would be better off with him concentrating his efforts in some other usless, pointless endeavor. An argument with him is probably like pinning jello to the wall. <BR> <P>[ November 05, 2002: Message edited by: Pookabunny ]<p>[ November 05, 2002: Message edited by: Pookabunny ]

Aragorn Husband of Arwen
11-05-2002, 08:52 PM
Disclaimer: Not the friend refered to above. Never even known Arwen Melian. &lt;P&gt;Anyway, I saw the movie with several friends, 3 of who are obsessed as many on this board are. I thought the movie was a bit corny, but its a good movie. I"m not obsessed. I see Tolkien"s works as excellent reads, and I"d recommend them. The movie is good, and I plan on seeing the other 2, but the obsession I don"t understand. gambling (http://casinominia.com)

Nevfeniel
11-05-2002, 09:12 PM
Most of my friends saw it and liked it. Not their <I>favorite</I> movie, but they still liked it. Unfortunately, one of my friends isn't allowed to see LotR (she lives in a sheltered family and has to hide her Harry Potter books from her mom), and when I get into a passionate discussion about LotR in her presence, she says "It's just a movie!" That, in my opinion, is a little bit annoying because she will never know what a wonderful epic LotR is, and that's sad.<p>[ November 05, 2002: Message edited by: Nevfeniel ]

Tigerlily Gamgee
11-05-2002, 11:01 PM
I had one friend who refused to go see the movie. He said that he had started reading Book 1 a while ago but stopped because he though it was boring.<BR>I tried everything to get him to see the movie. I even offerred to pay for him!<BR>At last... when the movie was released on DCD I got him to watch it & he liked it!<BR>End of boring story...

Lush
11-05-2002, 11:27 PM
<I>My</I> friends' excuses?<P>Too long.<P>Too boring.<P>Liv Tyler's neckline not low enough.<P>Hm, when I look at this, almost makes me want to re-think some of my closest frienships.

Melephelwen
11-06-2002, 02:22 PM
Most of my friends thought the movie was 'okay' - except this one girl who has this weird thing: everything that can not happen strictly in her reality = bad. It's really annoying, because ... okay, maybe this doesn't quite belong in this thread, but you'll get it anyways ... (an example) another friend, who likes LotR, who couldn't recall who Tolkien was. I said to something to her alike "You don't mean serously, that youm don't know who <I>Tolkien</I> is?" and the LotR-hater (let's call her Julie (not her real name)) goes "Why should she know any of your crazy authors?" Tolkien!?! CRAZY!?! I just managed to keep myself calm and say "He wrote LoTR". And then she goes "And so what?" <BR>And I just have to say "Lord-" and Julie freaks totally out (once I mentioned the movie, she went "I can't believe you want to use money on that sh*t!" GRRR! She actually used that word!) I offered her to watch the movie on VHS for free and all, so she would have something to judge by. Can you imagine a 2-year old saying "No!"? A teenage-girl refusing in that way!!??<BR>Okay I better stop now; it's not interesting for everybody else to hear about my agressions... Btw, if I sound like I hate her, we're not friends anymore (because of something else, that doesn't belong on BD at all.)<BR>To shorten down, her reason was "Elves doesn't exist, therefore the movie is bad"

Morgul Queen
11-06-2002, 06:20 PM
I have a friend who hates LOTR because she thinks that it is a rip-off of harry potter <BR>and another who hates because its popular<BR>are these people insane or what?

Arwen Melian
11-06-2002, 06:33 PM
Oh no your friend did not go there! If any thing harry potter was influenced by lotr. It has been around longer than these new fantasy novels and at least it has more depth. Not that I dont like harry potter. But in that movie the elves are short and ugly..eww.

Diamond18
11-06-2002, 09:52 PM
The Harry Potter thing is really easy to counteract. They'll feel really quite stupid when you tell them that not only were the books written about 50 years before HP, but that all three LotR movies were filmed before HP, even though HP comes out a month before. (That is so unfair! Why make LotR look copy-catish in the wake of something that is really copying LotR? Ahhhhh!)<P>I, luckily, have no friends. Aha. Just kidding. But I've never encountered people who hate LotR. I know people who are uninterested in fantasy...and what can you do about that? Oh well.

Mintyztwin
11-07-2002, 02:32 AM
I used to hate it! (Don't kill me!!!) I read the books to young. (I read them on my own impulse, however.) There was nothing else to read, so I forced myself to read them, and I didn't like them. I didn't read them again for a long time. <P>I think I would have read them again sooner, but it got all popular, and I have a VERY contrary streak! Heh heh. So I was like, why do you guys like THOSE books? They're so dull! But, my dear freind and companion became OBSESSED, and my little bro liked them, so I read them again . . . and fell in love! Now I'm proud to say I can stand with the obsessed! <P>And that person who said they're stupid 'cause elves aren't real, is crazy. I spend half my time wishing book-worlds were true! (Like Narnia, Redwall, and LotR)I even have this great theory about them being real! (If you want to know what it is send me a private message - it's too wierd to be known to the general public!) <P>I guess I just want to say, THERE IS HOPE for the dingbatty non-LotR's. On the other hand, maybe we should just force them to dress like orcs on an elvish target-practice range! <p>[ November 07, 2002: Message edited by: Mintyztwin ]

helkahothion
11-07-2002, 08:13 AM
To get back to the friend of nevfeniel: I think she just say's that stuff because she is jealous at you for having parents that allow you to see the movie, so when she say's it she is confincing herself more than she is confincing you. And to answer Arwen Mellian's question: I would not take it so serious. He is just used to a kind of movie where he does not have to think to much. (something like terminator or something, when they just shoot each others head of for no reason) but if I was there I'd think I sayd something like: "well if you don't like, just don't come with us to the other 2 movies and find out the ending" or something like that and I would explain him that is has an endeing and he just have 2 wait 2 years for it. But ofcaurse as a real fan the waiting is all worth it.

Dimaldaeon
11-07-2002, 11:49 AM
First of all lets not let this topic brcome another HP ripped off LOTR, Dementors are Nazgul tread.<P>Second of all, if you could please make a list of the names and addresses of these "friends" I'll have a lynch mob around to their homes in no time at all.

TealDude3
11-07-2002, 02:10 PM
First, let me say that everything I say is totally ture, and somewhat ironic. <BR>I when and saw LOTR with some friends. Only one problem. One of my friend brought along a dorky 'anti-anything that is long, popular, and intelligent' kid. My friend really doesn't like him, but he had to bring him along because his brother is cool, and he couldn't go if his brother didn't do. Anyway, throught the entire movie, the little kid kept saying,"This movie sucks and its boring. I wanna leave!" But the WORST was when Gandalf fell into the pit, the kid (he really is in my grade, but I just call him 'kid') said'"Oh well, he wasn't that great." <P>After the movie he said,"That movie was awful, I can make a better movie than that." <BR>YES! HE SAID IT!!! You see, we are in TV Production together, and the teacher at this point will take anybody to make this years short film. So, we made a bet that if his movie was good, I would give up my LOTR ways.<BR>Yes, I know if he won the bet that that would be 'a deal with the ' but I was willing to take that risk.<BR>The Current Status Of The Short Film: the budget only reached $100. He is making a Star Wars short film. I have read the script, and it is horrable. On top of that, half of the cast and crew has already quit, twice,but with begging he got them back. He was acctually begging ME to be the graphics designer(and yes, we have the right computer programs to do this). I told him I wasn't giving him any favours. He is still working on the movie. <BR>As far as I'm cocerned. VICTROY IS MINE!!!

dragoneyes
11-07-2002, 02:45 PM
I have to say, I didn't *rush* to watch LotR (I hadn't read it then) and, yes, people going totally crazy and talking about it alll the time REALLY bugged me. (do you know how annoying it is having ents explained to you when you really don't want to know because you're going to read the book anyway?) but I read the book in August and the rest's history<P>"Elves don't exist therefore movie is bad"?! What type of books does she read? Sure factual books are fine once in a while but no fantasy books? Couldn't live with that.

the mortal elf
11-07-2002, 09:01 PM
*takes deep breaths and tries to keep from smashing computer* These people drive me insane! Before they form their opinions they should at least get some background information! How ignorant can people be, LoTR has been around for 50 years! I haven't yet met a person who doesn't like the movie, but if I do and they have reasons such as these, someone's going to need to restrain me.

Mintyztwin
11-07-2002, 09:15 PM
Sí, sí. I know what you mean. When I "disliked" LotR I had at least READ them instead of going entirely on being contrary!!! But, it's their loss!

Arwen1858
11-07-2002, 09:48 PM
I've been trying to persuede one of my friends to read LOTR and watch the movie. I know her brother would probly love the movie, so hopefully they will watch it someday! My friend is really busy, and has a lot to read for school, but I'm working on her anyways <BR>Arwen

Elven Mistress
11-08-2002, 08:19 PM
it drives me nuts, too! my one friend loves the movie (probably cause of the guys! )!!! I'm glad she likes it, but it's for the wrong reasons! She told me she tried reading LOTR but it was confusing and boring...and i know her! She probably never even picked up the book! GRRR!

mordor136
11-08-2002, 09:44 PM
I took my friend to see the movie. They seemed to be interested. For my sake he began to read the books. He plowed through FOTR but when he got to TTT he began to slow down. He finally threw down the books permanently in the middle of helm's deep! I asked him why and he said that helms deep was an extremely boring chapter and just couldnt get through it. I have*with great difficulty* forgiven him, but I still cant get over the fact that he thought helms deep was boring!

Melephelwen
11-09-2002, 05:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> "Elves don't exist therefore movie is bad"?! What type of books does she read? Sure factual books are fine once in a while but no fantasy books? Couldn't live with that. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I agree with you, dragoneyes, I too couldn't live without fantasy - it's like the one thing that keeps me fairly "sane" <BR>Anyways, she's the type of person, who reads a book when it's recommended (as long as it's not fantasy or Science Fiction) gets through half of it, and then says it's boring. And if she read first book of a serie, and like it she quit through the second book, because it's not giving the same image as the first book - therefore it is bad! I really don't understand her - I always believed, that the point of reading the second book is to know what happens further; even if the main character is growing older, and therefore changes. <BR>And the person, who thought <I>Helm's Deep</I> was boring!?! I can't understand that! <BR>I got my brother halfway through the second part of TTT, but he didn't find it exciting, so he stopped there -hey, he's only 11, he'll get over it!

Dimaldaeon
11-09-2002, 09:54 AM
Oh God that whole elves aren't real therefore movie is bad things is stupid.<BR>After i saw the film for the first time i heard someone say "It's very unrealistic isn't it" one of my friends nearly wet himself laughing at ther person who said that.<BR>I suppose i shouldn't complain, my own father once said "Was that based on a true story?" <p>[ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: Dimaldaeon ]

Diamond18
11-09-2002, 10:15 AM
Argh! What is the <I>point</I> of having an imagination if you have to be "realistic" all the time? These people's minds must operate on totally different planes than ours, because I just can't understand them.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
11-09-2002, 03:13 PM
This is the type of person I am. Homer Simpson once said this line. "Great, now I have to face stupid reality again..." I wrote this on a bit of paper and found a picture of Aragorn looking exasperated and stuck that on it. It's on my wall now.<P>Anyway, point is, fantasy and fiction are totally necessary to keep my sanity. People who complain that it's not realistic enough are completely missing the point. What annoys me more is action films which are meant to be 'real' are totally unbelievable and proposterous (sp)<P>People who come out with ridiculous arguments against the film deserve to be ignored until they admit their errors.<P>I am proud to be obsessed.

the mortal elf
11-09-2002, 04:12 PM
Elven Mistress: I completely agree with you. At my school, the library recently gave out LoTR bookmarks that have pictures of the fellowship on them. I love it, and have gotten all of them. But in the last week or so I have seen no less than 20 girls walking around pointing at Legolas's picture saying, "isn't he hot!" and other things to the same point. It drives me insane! I don't know why, but I have a problem with the word hot when describing one's looks, especially when they're describing one of my heroes! *sighs* I guess I'll just have to live with it, but I was wondering if anyone else had something of the same problem.

Haldir
11-09-2002, 04:57 PM
I hate those stuations when you really like<BR>some movie/s and your friend/s don't.<BR>A friend of mine told me that FOTR was too<BR>long, another friend told me it's too boring,<BR>too much talking, not enough action.<BR>Not to mention the bad things they said about<BR>Interview with the Vampire and the classic<BR>Star Wars trilogy (ep. IV,V,VI), of course<BR>they didn't like more the Hannibal Lecter<BR>trilogy, they said Harry Potter beats all of<BR>these movies, and I have nothing against<BR>Harry Potter (I've read the books and all)<BR>but it's just <I><B>NOT</B></I> LOTR or such

VanimaEdhel
11-10-2002, 04:58 PM
Most of the time, I say, "Have you read the books?"<P>Most of the time, they answer, "No."<P>Then I say, "Then of COURSE you didn't like it! You didn't UNDERSTAND it!"

Arwen Melian
11-10-2002, 05:56 PM
This is exactly what I'm thinking, it just aggravates me ...what these people think. <BR>Unfortunately I keep my mouth closed

Mintyztwin
11-11-2002, 11:55 AM
Yep. I agree Mortal Elf (I'll leave of the "the" That okay?)! I was once an openly admitted Legolas fan. (I think I was the original want to marry him! gal ) But that was BEFORE the movie!!!!!!!! When I saw the movie, I was like, Heh heh, I'll still be a Legolas fan, 'cause Orlando Bloom isn't UGLY! <P>But now, I almost NEVER say ANYTHING about it! 'Cause I'm contrary, and like to go against the flow, AND 'cause NOBODY believe me when I say "The Legolas from the books. Not Orlando Bloom. The REAL Legolas!!" (that last part always gets some looks! )<P>I'm real lucky though! I am so sorry all you guys have freinds who don't like LotR! ALL my friends do! I was the one who didn't like it! But I've seen the light!!!! (Heh. A leetle sacriligious there! Sorry, Lord!)

TolkienGurl
11-11-2002, 12:07 PM
"It's too long."<BR>"I can't keep track of all the characters."<BR>"The languages are confusing."<BR>"Fantasy isn't my thing."<P>P.S. <I>LOTR is not a trilogy</I>, as I have said before. It says this right in the 'Note on the Text':<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The Lord of the Rings is often erroneously called a trilogy, when it is in fact a single novel of six books plus appendicies, sometimes published in three volumes.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>-Douglas A. Anderson

Nieninque
11-11-2002, 03:08 PM
There should be guards who won't let anyone who hasn't read the books into the theater. <BR>If you haven't read the trilogy, you are guaranteed not to get some of what's going on.<P>Things I want to shoot people for saying:<P>"Oh, there's <I>three</I> movies to it?"<P>"What kind of ending is that?"<P>"That elf-guy is HOTT!" <P>"Are they speaking Spanish?" <P>"Why is the midget dude crying? Wussy."<P>*breathes to calm herself* Grrr. People are so ignorant.

TealDude3
11-11-2002, 03:32 PM
What really annoys me is when your friend has seen it, and the only names he can recall are Frodo, Gandalf, and Sam. And intead of saying Aragorn, he says Strider, because that is all he remembered. When my friend came up to me for the first time after seeing it, he said,"Man that was a great movie! That Elf-dude shot those ugly guys with his arrows and crap! And Gandalf and that other wizard guy were fighting in mid-air and stuff! To bad the next LOTR movie is coming out in 2004. I can't wait that long."<P>HUH!?! <P>And about not seeing the movie if you haven't read the book. At least they must have to have read The Hobbit in order to understand it somewhat.

Diamond18
11-11-2002, 04:53 PM
TealDudee3, your friend who can't remember the names sounds like a good target for geekitis indoctrination. At least he liked the movie, so you have some starting ground to get him interested in the books.<P>And someone said that anyone who hasn't read the books shouldn't be allowed to see the movie. That would be inconvienent, since then my Dad wouldn't be able to go and I'd have to buy my own ticket.

Mintyztwin
11-11-2002, 07:45 PM
Hmm . . . well, my mom's the only one in our family that hasn't read the books. ('Cept for the little girls 'cause they can't read, and the cats for obvious reasons) And she waaaaay did not get it. As in coming very close to flatly refusing to allow any of us to see it! Or get the DVD (Which is still up in the air. Grrrr . . .)<P>But you know what's funny? My little sisters talk about LotR! It's so funny! they know Saruman, Sauron, Frodo, Gandalf, and Legolas by name. They're so cute! <P>I'm glad your dad didn't freak Diamond, but i still think people should definatly read the books first!!!!!

kaleidoscope
11-12-2002, 04:41 PM
I first saw the movie with my family. Everyone in my family liked it except my mom. She's the only one in my family who hasn't read the books, and she thought it was to violent. (She also things "The Lion King" is violent, though.) Afterwards, we went to some restaurant and had a long and involved discussion about the difference between the movie and the book (excluding my mom of course, who just went on about how violent the movie was)<P>I went with my friends later and they all liked it. One of my friends hasn't read the book, but she had about 3 or 4 of us telling her what happened. My friends think the movies are better than the books, and I disagree. I better stop here, before I really get started.

Mintyztwin
11-12-2002, 06:32 PM
Maybe it's just a mom thing. 'Cept my mom isn't as much worried about the violence. She just thinks its eeeeeeeevil!!!! (Eeeeeevil seeeeeeds! Sorry, inside joke! )

Taure Leafsilver
11-12-2002, 08:45 PM
"where'd the ending go?" my freind wasnt thrilled but she is going to see TTT.

LadyElbereth
11-12-2002, 08:59 PM
One of my really good friends wouldn't see LOTR because she said it wasn't a <I>comedy</I>!! I begged and begged and offered to pay for her and everything and later I even said she could borrow my DVD, yes my own..my precioussss. Her brother even rented it and she <I>still</I> wouldn't see it! I couldn't believe it! I tell you, some people are so stubborn...<P>(ooh cool, I get a whole new page all to myself. lol)<p>[ November 12, 2002: Message edited by: LadyElbereth ]

Mintyztwin
11-13-2002, 08:28 AM
LotR A <I>comedy</I>?!?!? Whoa! Somebody needs to smack her over the head with an orc! My goodness! And she even STILL won't see it? Call a psychiatrist! And what's wrong with comedy anyway?!?!?

GreyIstar
11-13-2002, 10:11 AM
Most people I know liked it even thought they hadn't read the books. I showed my dad when he was visiting the DVD and half way through the movie he said pause it for a break. He was like "This was probably the last movie I would have picked off you shelf, but this movie is great!" <P>As for people not liking. I observed in the theaters, people walking out (mostly stupid teenagers) and just thought "good you don't deserve to understand this!"<P>I mean is this society so MTV influenced that one cannot sit still for 3 hours and enjoy a masterpiece? Too long??? I say not long enough!!!<P>One friend won't see it because she says "Its not her type of movie." What is that you aren't even going to give it a chance. Of course she likes stupid teeny movies like Orange County and stuff liek that.

LadyElbereth
11-13-2002, 12:35 PM
My friend is just like that, GreyIstar. She just LOVED Orange County and she said those exact words "It's not my type of movie". I just can't believe that people won't even try something new or just watch a few minutes of it, so they would at least give it a chance.

Feather
11-17-2002, 02:55 AM
my friend did not like it because she said it was just 3 hours of violence and then it suddenly stopped. Even though i explained about the next movies she wasn't interested in 'going through all that killing again' to find out the ending.

Mintyztwin
11-19-2002, 03:58 PM
What?! How ridiculous! Three hours of violence indeed! I need to go thrash something!

Shanna
11-19-2002, 05:08 PM
Oh God, this is the ever popular one used by friends who haven't even seen the flim *ahem*<BR>"It's gay!"<BR>How lame can you get?

dragoneyes
11-19-2002, 05:19 PM
It's gay? I have to say it's not particularly happy, well, not compared to disney films. They are very misinformed.<BR>Most of my friends have watch the films and are reading the books now so I'm not allowed to mention the plot at all

Mattius
11-19-2002, 05:45 PM
Well, when the hype began for the first movie my friend's main reason for being against it was that it was a "nerds" movie. However, unbeknown to him, his dad had read the books some years before and bought them both a ticket. Turns out that it wasn't a "nerds" movie at all but a cinamatic masterpiece. After most people saw it and realised that I had read the books they were quizzing me for ages, I think this got my friend a bit jealous so he read the books and now he loves them.<P>A message to all of you with friends who hate LotR and use cynical excuses to belittle the books or the films --> They Are Not Worth It! Don't bother arguing with them, if they are too stupid to make a valid argument then they are far too stupid to understand the films and especially the books!

Arwen Melian
11-19-2002, 05:50 PM
Thanks for the advice,however my friend isn't stupid( just stubborn yet intelligent.) I guess he'll never appreciate the movie because it's not his "type" of movie. How rude is that?Any more stories anyone? Or advice?

TealDude3
11-20-2002, 09:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>"It's gay!"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>O wow! How explanitory. Let me guess. I movie itself has homosexual acts with other 'gay' movies. That is the most lame excuse for anything. If someone is going to give an excuse against something at least have a good excuse, not that there is one.

Arwen Melian
11-20-2002, 06:27 PM
wELL IN aMERICA WHEN SOME PEOPLE SAY IT'S GAY IT DOESN'T NECCESARILLY HAVE TO MEAN HOMOSEXUAL...AMONG SOME NEW YORK TEENAGES IT SIMPLY MEANS FRUITY OR FAKE...YEA, MY FREINDS SAY THAT ABOUT LOTR. IT REALLY BOTHERS ME!

WarBringer
11-20-2002, 07:05 PM
my friends say that it would never happen and that its for nerds-obviously it would never happen and half thge world thinks it isnt for nerds.

Mintyztwin
11-20-2002, 08:30 PM
I heard somewhere that Sir Ian McKellan was gay and Elijah Woods was a homosexual activist. Could they perhaps be speaking about this. (Although it could definatly be what you are talking about Arwen Melian)<P>Also, is this true? My information is never really reliable. *sigh* I'm so uninfomormed, and what I do know is wrong!

Diamond18
11-20-2002, 10:21 PM
Well, it's no secret that Sir Ian is gay. I don't know anything about Elijah Wood, really, but I read somewhere that he was dating a 28-year-old woman (the people reporting on this were rather condescending about it, well who cares, my brother is Lij's exact age and he's married to a 27-year-old...okay I'll stop ranting now).

Orual
11-20-2002, 10:34 PM
"I don't understand it!"<P>That's my friends' favorite. Don't understand it? What the heck is there not to understand? I mean, one of my friends says "The only thing I got out of the movie was that the Ring was bad." Wow. Deep. Is it just me, or was it not that complicated? Or was it only because I'd read the books? Am I just weird? Are we all just weird? Or is my friend just weird? When will I stop asking questions? When I know the names of all the stars, and the entire history of Middle-earth and Over-heaven and of the Sundering Seas, what less? ^_^<P>~*~Orual~*~

TealDude3
11-21-2002, 11:15 AM
Well, if you haven't read the books then I guess it would be confusing. On the other hand, for people who haven't read the books may find it confusing. The problem is, we don't know how confusing it is to them, because we (or most of us) have read the books.

Diamond18
11-21-2002, 04:07 PM
My aforementioned brother didn't find it hard to understand. He said, and I quote, "What's not to understand? It's all about killing. I kept falling asleep and when I woke up they were doing the same thing."<P>AHAHAHAHAHA. Excuse me. Check me into the looney bin, somebody.

elsye
11-23-2002, 08:01 PM
well, as far as the not letting people who haven't read the books into the movie... I hadn't read the books-any of them. The only things I knew about the movie is that it was connected to "The Hobbit"(the movie). If i hadn't seen it, then I wouldn't have read the books and certainly wouldn't be on this site.<BR>Yes, I have friends who "hate LOTR with a passion"(gasp! i can't believe i just typed that!) and recently they told me <BR>"We only went to the movie with you to make you happy, and that makes us really good friends to do a thing like that"<BR>Rather than that making me feel happy about having them as friends, it made me feel like they stabbed me in the stomach! it took me AT LEAST fifteen seconds before my mind would process anything-including breathing!

Arwen Melian
11-23-2002, 08:10 PM
Awww..I have friends who would do that for me (except one.) If I was in your position,<BR>I would probably feel the same way though.

elsye
11-23-2002, 11:09 PM
they are good friends, but its always been a rule in our group that you tell eachother the truth, even if it hurts... but I am glad they told me so that I won't ask them to come with me again.

Mintyztwin
11-24-2002, 05:18 PM
Oh!!! You poor, poor thing!!!! I'm one of the few, the lucky, ALL my friends are MAJOR LotR freaks, and they ALL read the books PRE-movie! (Never mind that one of them thought ent's were a fungus, or something. She can't get anything straight anyway.)

Manwe Sulimo
11-24-2002, 08:36 PM
I suppose I'm one of the lucky ones....<P>All my best friend (how can that be multiple?) have seen it and loved it, even if they don't remember anyone's names. All of my not-best-friends (the girls, lol) have seen it, and like it for the guys. At least they like it...even if every time I have to talk to them they say "oh, I liked Elijah and Orlando!"<P>I even got four people to read the books by making them watch the movie! Go me!<P>*Goes over and punches Ms. Melian's "anonymous friend" in the chest* stupid anti-fan....

The Silver-shod Muse
11-25-2002, 02:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> "Elves doesn't exist, therefore the movie is bad" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I feel really sorry for that girl. Her life will be terrible and she won’t even know why. Anyone with grammar that bad has to be confused ( )<P>*Stepping out of the theatre with "May It Be" still ringing in my ears*: <P>"Ummmm... okay...I guess..." <BR>"What were those midget-dudes doing anyway?"<BR>"You <I>liked</I> that movie?"<P>I had no reply to any of these.<p>[ November 25, 2002: Message edited by: The Silver-shod Muse ]

Manwe Sulimo
11-25-2002, 02:47 PM
This isn't exactly a <I>friend</I>, it's actually my geometry teacher. His excuse for calling it the "worst movie in the world" (for which I was honor-bound to challenge him to a duel) was that it was "60% walking", and that "Hobbit feet aren't cute."<P>?????

TealDude3
11-25-2002, 06:01 PM
And the weirdest thing is, if they read the book then they would say that movie was good, but nnnnooooo! Don't you think LOTR should become required reading at school.

Faye Took
11-26-2002, 12:02 AM
I can't believe how many people I know have not see Lord of the Rings! My god does that bug me. When my other Tolkien obsessed friends are talking about one of the characters, my friend that has not seen the movie will all of a sudden be like Who's Gandalf? I just gave her an evil glare .<p>[ November 26, 2002: Message edited by: Faye Took ]

Melephelwen
11-26-2002, 08:55 AM
Just to the thing about understanding the movie without reading the books - one of my friends said that besides liking the movie she thought it was good because it's easy to understand, even though you haven't read the book(s). And <I>she</I> is definately watching the next movie too.<BR>And you wouldn't believe what one of my friends made me do to make her see TTT!?! She "can't afford to go" so she "can only see it if I give her a ticket as a christmas present". And I actually let her get away with it! Now I have to pay for <I>her</I> ticket! Oh, to be naiv...

Mintyztwin
11-26-2002, 05:18 PM
Hey! I would like a TTT ticket for Christmas!! (Which, by the way, is only 29 days away! )<P>When I asked people why they haven't read the book, two people, no wait, three, told me, and I quote: "They're big!" Well, like, DUH!!!! Two were in my classes, and the other was my physical therapist. (I am feeble and decrepit in my old age! )<P>I talked to one guy who hadn't even HEARD of LotR I said "Oh that's nice! (ash in my tomatos! )" And he was like, huh? (WHAT is with the "like's" Mintyztwin? Get with the program!) Anyway, he hadn't seen the movie, hadn't read the books . . . hadn't even heard of lotr! Poor deprived person. And he's been in class with me for two years!!! (I am sooo embarresed. I've been neglecting my duty.) I don't see how he missed out on this, 'cause about 33.33333% of everything I do is LotR. (The other 33.33333% is 3I2IR, and the other 33.3333333% is me!) <BR>So, NOW I HAVE GUILT!!! Ah well, He will not be ignorant for long! MWAHAHAHAH!!! <P>"They're big!" yeeesh.

Arwen Melian
11-26-2002, 05:50 PM
I know..don't you just hate it when people ask you what your favorite movie or book is, and you say LOTR. Then they say...what is that?!It bothers me!( Summons the waters on those people.)