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Morquesse
09-08-2003, 07:30 PM
BilboFett from TORN writes:<BR>"Shelob's in the new RETURN OF THE KING Trailer!!..Just talked to someone,... and the word is, "GIANT SPIDER." He had no idea what he was looking at it. I asked him how it was, and he just said, "Dude... GIANT SCARY SPIDER. What the heck is that thing?!" The source confirmed that the ROTK trailer is *indeed* in front of Secondhand Lions (released by New Line) on September 19th"<P>I've witnessed times when TORN's news has not been acurrate, but what do you think? <BR>See you later! <BR>~M<p>[ September 08, 2003: Message edited by: Morquesse ]

peonydeepdelver
09-09-2003, 02:27 PM
Well, now I have a reason to go see that movie. Ugh. LOL

Cinderella
09-09-2003, 02:31 PM
I hope its true.<BR>No wait...no I don't, I'm with Peony, I clearly don't need a reason to see that movie! I wish it would be attached to a good movie like....um....well...

Sapphire_Flame
09-09-2003, 02:41 PM
...like Pirates of the Caribbean. Well, maybe we could go in for the trailer, then skip out to another movie. Maybe PotC...<P><I>SHELOB SHELOB SHELOB!!!</I> <P>Abedithon le,<P>~*~Aranel~*~

Silmiel of Imladris
09-09-2003, 04:54 PM
Secondhand Lions looks awesome!!! What could be better than too old guys sitting on a porch and shooting at salesmen?? I think it will be similar to Grumpy Old Men and that movie was great. I can't wait! I can't wait! :Bounces off the walls:

Eruwen
09-09-2003, 06:01 PM
They're putting it in theaters???? NOOOOOO!!!!!!! That is <I>supposed</I> to be the huge, secret thing that they won't show until the movie comes out! It's <B><I>supposed</I></B> to be like Treebeard was last year!!! This makes me mad! Ugh!! That ruins everthing!! [calms down] I cannot believe this.

HCIsland
09-09-2003, 06:40 PM
<A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1062982482" TARGET=_blank>Here's a link to the article at OneRing.</A><P>It's a friend of a friend of a friend sort of thing, so take it for what it's worth.<P>Personally, I highly doubt we'll get a good look at Shelob.<P>H.C.

QuickSlash
09-09-2003, 08:06 PM
I'm going with Eruwen and HCIsland here. Shelob shouldn't be shown except in the movie itself. It's the one thing that we <I>have</I> to wait for. If we don't, what'll be the big (moving) special effects thing? Sure, you've got Mt Doom, you've got the palantir, but you don't get any living characters (to my memory). <P>This shouldn't be seen yet, and if it's in any movie trailer, I'm covering my eyes. ~_^

Maeglanthirion
09-09-2003, 08:48 PM
yeah, it does spoil a lot, but they did do a good job concealing gollum and treebeard until the release i thought. But you gotta see it from their point of view: they're out to make a lot of money, and trailers are a part of the advertising strategy. I doubt they'll show a bunch of Shelob, so they can get people to come see the movie to see Shelob. Well, there's also plenty of websites that it'll come out on shortly after being released in theaters. If you want to know a good one, just PM me.

Horse-Maiden of the Shire
09-09-2003, 08:53 PM
They might put it like they put Gollum and Treebeard: I remember that Treebeard was only shown as legs (when he scooped up Merry after already grabbing Pip) and that Gollum was only shown from the back (I think) as he climbed down the wall to sneak up on the nasty hobbitses. I sure hope they only put Shelob as bits and snatches, because that will make me want to see it even more!!

Gorwingel
09-09-2003, 11:16 PM
I don't mind seeing a <I>little</I> Shelob because I have waited like 3 years to see the most amazing part of the book displayed on screen. But I do hope that all they show is maybe a foot, or an eye. Nothing but a little taste.<p>[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: Gorwingel ]

Pookabunny
09-10-2003, 01:44 AM
Just an FYI - the film (Secondhand Lions) was originally going to show on 9/26, but the release date has been moved up to 9/19. The ROTK preview will NOT be on the 9/19 release, but rather on the 9/26 release. <P>This is from the <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/spyreports.html" TARGET=_blank>Spy Reports</A> section on ToRN.

Mariska Greenleaf
09-10-2003, 03:28 AM
The fact alone that there is so much talk about Shelob is a shame. My brother has enjoyed the first two movies, but never read the books, so he is really curious about what is going to happen. At the end of TTT, Gollum says: "We will let her do it." My brother was wondering who "she" might be, and then, it is all over the newspaper that she is a giant spider and all, he was really dissapointed about that.

HCIsland
09-10-2003, 10:01 AM
Great point Meriska. It is a shame.<P>I love sitting beside people that have no idea what is coming just to watch them experience it for the first time.<P>H.C.<p>[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

peonydeepdelver
09-10-2003, 01:55 PM
I totally agree with Gorwingel. Or, just not show her at all. The more surprised and scared I am the better. But I agree about it being all over the news and stuff. It's just like Gandalf the White. Everyone knew, and it could have been an awesome surprise the way they showed it, with the voice sounding like Chris Lee's. At least they're keeping Mount Doom under wraps... *crosses fingers* I hope I didn't just jinx that...

Frodo2968thewhite
09-10-2003, 04:17 PM
I am dissapointed with them showing Shelob, but at the same time, I am REALLY anxious to see her! I also heard (from a VERY unreliable source) that the mouth of Sauron was to be shown in the trailer.<BR> Peonydeepdelver, KNOCK ON WOOD!!!!

Kalimac
09-10-2003, 04:20 PM
If it's the same trailer I saw a week ago (internet, not exactly officially released), in that one they showed a few of her legs (which were quite nasty) but no smile-for-the-camera full portrait of Her Ladyship. It was pretty dark, as well, so someone who doesn't know who Shelob is, while they'd get the idea of something spidery and nasty, wouldn't necessarily have the whole ghastly surprise blown for them. This could be a different trailer, though.

Ainaserkewen
09-10-2003, 04:42 PM
Hmmm, would I go see a movie I've never heard of because of a trailor?.....<BR>Yes! well maybe, <BR>I Don't know, it depends on who goes with me and if I have money.<BR>Chee, I hope that her ladyship doesn't look too much like the spiders from Harry Potter, cause, even though the pictures were cool, they didn't seem real enough to scare me. Shelob is pretty real to me through the books, lets hope that PJ and his incredible staff have come up with something special.

Gorwingel
09-10-2003, 08:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>If it's the same trailer I saw a week ago (internet, not exactly officially released)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ok, Kalimac... Where exactly did you see this trailer? I wanna see it! <p>[ September 11, 2003: Message edited by: Gorwingel ]

Rose Cotton
09-14-2003, 12:27 PM
For the past two movies I've been getting at as many spoilers as I could. But Shelob is a very special scene for me (mostly cause sam gets to kick butt) so I want it to be a total suprise.<P>I don't think we have to worry about Shelob not being scary enough. Supposedly PJ is a big arachnaphobic and they designed her to scare his pants off.<P> Be afraid! Be VERY afraid!

Shy Hobbit
09-17-2003, 06:17 PM
Hmmm... if the movie looks interesting enough to my mom we'll probably go, but I don't think I'll bug to see this one like I did with Pirates. (the one movie I was looking foward to besides RotK)<P>I decided to tag along to Hulk because there was a PoC trailer on it and there wasn't So I ended up sitting though a mediocre movie. *sigh* Maybe if I hear <I>for sure</I> that the trailer is on it, I'll go, but I can probably watch it on the internet once it's out. <P>I'm also sceptical about getting a glance at Shelob, although I really don't care. That'll be a very painful scene for me I'm looking forward more to poor Sam's reaction. I thrive on all this emotional stuff <p>[ September 17, 2003: Message edited by: Shy Hobbit ]

Knight of Gondor
09-17-2003, 08:55 PM
Aw, c'mon, we KNOW this trailer will show up on the internet before long, just like the TTT trailer they stuck on the end of Fellowship.<P>Still, someone go see this movie, okay? I don't wanna blow my money on a movie just for a trailer. Besides, I don't go to see too many movies anyway, and I only see the GOOD ones. (Not to offend any fans of this, this...WHATEVER movie...)

Shy Hobbit
09-18-2003, 09:28 AM
We should keep in mind, it'll probably also be an easter egg on the EE of TTT, right?

Mooncalf
09-19-2003, 06:59 PM
Here's a ROTK trailer... you can download it here:<P> <A HREF="http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=2106" TARGET=_blank>http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=2106</A> <P>You need Quicktime.<P>Then again, this may be the one on the TTT DVD. I was so excited I had to post it though.

Oddwen
09-19-2003, 08:58 PM
Yeesh! Watch out for language on that site!<BR>Alas, I didn't have time to look at the trailer...I'm supposed to be going to bed. >.> <.<

Mooncalf
09-19-2003, 09:08 PM
Gah, sorry, I forgot to warn you... don't bother reading the comments under the downloading link; only about 10% are intelligible and 1% are helpful. They need some moderators on that site... The downloads are fine, though; I didn't get any viruses.

HCIsland
09-19-2003, 09:21 PM
This is the Return of the King preview that was packaged with TTT DVD and has been kicking around for some time.<P>It is likely not the trailer that is coming out in a week.<P>H.C.

arianrod
09-19-2003, 10:52 PM
I really think PJ's going to hold Shelob's true identity a secret. Like <B>Horse-Maiden of the Shire</B> said, they only showed bits and pieces of Treebeard and Gollum. On the other hand, they did completely ruin the surprise of Gandalf the White, so I don't know what to think. I can only <I>hope</I> that most of Shelob will be a surprise... *crosses fingers* <P>Hmm... here's a question... how is it that this guy's friend saw the trailer at all? Did I miss where it said what special circumstances allowed for him to see it while it's locked under vault and key from the rest of the public viewing audience?

Blue_Punk_Dragon
09-20-2003, 12:05 AM
I am really anxious about seeing Shelob but, like most people, I want it to be a suprise too. It probably is great and it was good how they hid Treebeard and Gollum from everyone. They probably won't show too much of Shelob. I hope<p>[ September 20, 2003: Message edited by: Blue_Punk_Dragon ]

Gorwingel
09-20-2003, 09:58 PM
Does anyone know if the trailer that is coming out with Secondhand Lions this Wednesday (I think?) is also going to be put on the official website? Because I heard that the trailer if finally coming out (after a lot of waiting) like this week, but then I have heard nothing about it since.

Arwen Evenstar the Fair
09-21-2003, 02:30 PM
yea can anyone confirm that for me, cause I don't want to go to the movie thinking I'm going to see the trailer and then find out its not playing.

Iarwain
09-23-2003, 08:37 PM
I saw a TV spot for RotK after a "Lions" preview today. I recorded it and watched the fifteen second clip in super slow-mo, and here's what I've gotten. <P>Be warned, this contains spoilers.<P>Aragorn is seen running on a field, then fighting orcs. This means that he gets to the Battle (you know which one I'm talking about).<P>Gandalf is seen up on some sort of battlement as orcs climb over a nearby wall. This is not a good sign. I have a feeling that the drama element is going to drive Minas Tirith to the same fate as Helm's Deep. Sadly, this is evidence supporting that.<P>One very good thing is a head-shot of Eowyn pulling off a dirty helmet and having the strangest looking smile on her face. One scene at least is guaranteed to be incredible, even if the first four circles fall.<P>Also, there is a brief shot of Arwen running up to Elrond and hugging him, and one of Frodo, Sam, and Gollum standing near the entrance to an odd looking cave... <P>I live in fearful joy,<BR>Iarwain<P><BR>P.S. Yes, it was implicitly stated that the trailer will be played.<p>[ September 23, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ]

HCIsland
09-24-2003, 08:57 AM
The trailer will definately be attached to Secondhand Lions on September 26 and will be available on-line Semptember 29.<P><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1064347657" TARGET=_blank>Link</A><P>Editted to add: Also at OneRing is a rather vague description of the trialer.<P><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1064418201" TARGET=_blank>Link</A><P>Will have to see the trailer for myself, but Galadriel visiting Frodo (likely in a dream) seems interesting. My guess is that this is after Frodo has been captured. I also find the Arwen/Elrond scene interesting. I'd have to see it before I can take a guess at where it fits.<P>H.C.<p>[ September 24, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

HCIsland
09-24-2003, 07:16 PM
OneRing has a report that there will be a sneak "exclusive" preview on E! News Live Thursday, 7:00PM EST.<P>They seem to think it will be a portion of the trailer.<P>H.C.

Gorwingel
09-24-2003, 08:08 PM
I have read the discriptions of that tralier. And Oh my Gosh! It sounds absolutely amazing. I can't wait to see it. I especially want to see the end of it though, I never thought they would put a part of that scene in it

HCIsland
09-25-2003, 05:32 PM
Another description of the trailer.<P><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1064529509" TARGET=_blank>Link</A><P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Some of the bits I remember:<P><BR>Shot of Frodo and Sam climbing to the top of a very high building... <P>Frodo getting to the top and Gollum suddenly seeing the Ring on Frodo's neck... <P>Arwen talking to Elrond about Narsil/Anduril and Aragorn needing it... showing the sword reforged... <P>Aragorn talking to Gandalf with Gandalf doubting Frodo's survival... <P>Aragorn making Gandalf feel stronger by asking what he 'believes/feels in his heart' (Sorry, I was so mesmerized I didn't take in the words properly)... <P>Aragorn making a speech to the army before the battle making them shout and cheer (you hear him but don't see him until right at the end of his speech)... <P>Eomer holding (possibly) King Theoden in his arms... <P>Frodo running up a passageway holding his light (from Galadriel) being chased by Shelob (I know this was in other reports of <BR>trailers)...<P>Lots and lots of other bits and all the time the same quotes as already mentioned in other trailers. 'For every victory' etc. <P>It looks absolutely fantastic and we sat there stunned. Whether the trailer is being shown with any other films showing at Cineworld I haven't a clue. It may be with all films being shown or only with Underworld. Perhaps they shouldn't be showing it at all yet? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>H.C.

Gorwingel
09-25-2003, 09:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>OneRing has a report that there will be a sneak "exclusive" preview on E! News Live Thursday, 7:00PM EST.<BR>They seem to think it will be a portion of the trailer.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It was <BR>It was only a very, extremely small part, but what part I saw was really good.<BR>It mainly contained three small scenes...<BR>One of Aragorn and Gandalf talking about Frodo and where he is and things like that<P>Then a scene of Frodo with Sam behind him climbing up a very steep and rocky mountain hill with Gollum in front. This scene was my absolute favorite of what E showed. I can't wait to see it in the full tralier. It is a very dark scene, but the colors they use are amazing, and something is glowing in the background.<P>The next part begins with a small scene of Arwen saying something and then it goes to Elrond giving Aragorn Anduril. It is absolutely amazing the way he whips out that sword, it is so quick. The colors too seem different in this scene too than in the other films. It is darker but with a very bright warmpth, and they are in a tent.<P>I can't wait to see the tralier. I am going to be seeing it this Sunday in the theater.<P>Additionally, here is a link to Harry's from Ain't it Cool news review of the tralier. I will warn you it does have some profane language, but he absolutely loved it, and it is well worth a read...<BR><A HREF="http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=16175" TARGET=_blank>Ain't it Cool News</A><P>

Noldorin King
09-25-2003, 09:46 PM
No offense to the fans of LOTR movies but the Two Towers blows...it's the most exciting episode of the tale of the Third Age but what happened to the movie? I'm sure the script writer was sick in the head when he wrote it because there's very little resemblance between the book and the film. i'm not saying they should follow every word there was in the Two Towers but they could've atleast gotten rid of the not so interesting love story between 'him' and 'her' and focused on the adventures of Sam and Frodo or atleast the journey of the three others who searched for Merry and Pippin and came across the Riders of Rohan...I wouldn't be quibbling over this trifle if they had let us see a glimpse of Shelob at the end but there was not even the slightest hint that Frodo and Sam would be meeting such a magnificent ancient beast...

HCIsland
09-26-2003, 08:05 AM
Now, back to the thread....<P>FaramirFan sent me this QuickTime link.<P><A HREF="http://img-nex.theonering.net/movies/092503_rotk_sm.mov" TARGET=_blank>The Sneak Preview On E!</A><P>Most excitting bit for me.<P>It isn't Arwen bring Anduril to Aragorn. It's Elrond.<P>I am so pumped.<P>H.C.<P>Editted to add: One bit I found a little strange is the shot of Frodo climbing towards Gollum. This seems to be the long stair leading towards the tunnel but what is the green glow below them? Any thoughts?<P>Never mind. I just got an e-mail from FaramirFan saying, "wasn't the glimps of Minas Morgul in the background cool?"<P> <p>[ September 26, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

Failivrin
09-26-2003, 02:39 PM
well i just saw it with once upon a time in mexico, so i htink i got a pretty ace deal <P>shelob was on it. i thought she looked more like a crab than a spider actually...

The Saucepan Man
09-26-2003, 05:00 PM
At last! A trailer that I was able to download. Thanks FaramirFan and HC. <P>The brief snippets that we get are fantastic - real appetite-whetters. The look on Gandalf's face when Aragorn says, "What does your heart tell you?" is marvellous.<P>Like you, HC, I was pleasantly surprised to see Elrond being the one who brings Anduril to Aragorn. It figures, though. Elrond had to play some part in this film other than simply turning up at the end for the wedding and sitting grumpily in a corner. I see that you have started a separate topic on the subject, so I will reserve my further comments for that.<P>I must say that I am disappointed to hear that Shelob is in the longer trailer. I had hoped that she would be kept under wraps until the realease of the film. It's not clear from the reports just how much we see of her, but it sounds to be much more than I would prefer.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> i thought she looked more like a crab than a spider actually... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hmm, that doesn't bode well. I hope that we're not going to have a repeat of the Warg fiasco here ...

HCIsland
09-26-2003, 05:45 PM
Get it while it lasts!<P>The entire trailer is now at OneRing.<P><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/" TARGET=_blank>Link</A><P>It's a long download and it's very busy, so patience is required.<P>You get just a glimps of Shelob as she leaps from behind a corner at Frodo. All I see is a mess of hairy legs.<P>The other thing that struck me was dark the battle scenes were. I guess we are going to get the dawnless day.<P>It is very cool.<P>H.C.<P>Editted to add: There are a few shots of Eowyn as Dernhelm and it struck me as to how obvious that it was Eowyn. It seems PJ will not be hiding Eowyn from the audience, though I'm sure Theoden and company won't know it is her. I wonder when in the film Merry will realize who she is with? There's a line were she says to Merry, "What ever happens, stay with me." It is obviously her voice.<P>Which brings me to the likely reason PJ won't be hiding her. I don't think there is a way to disguise her so well (both apperance and voice) that even the most inattentive member of the audience won't be able to figure out who it is. Probably best to drop the deception.<P>H.C.<p>[ September 26, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

Iarwain
09-26-2003, 07:14 PM
I suppose that rumor about Elrond coming to Aragorn with Anduril is true, then. At least they have the sword reforged. Shelob seems awfully small and her legs are quite chubby. Elrond is keeping up with his odd forbiddance of Arwen + Aragorn. We have Oliphaunts!!! Most interesting Trailer. I liked my TV spot better. It said good things. This gives a more balanced view.<P>Iarwain

Calenedheliel1
09-26-2003, 07:55 PM
I just saw the trailer today and am in total awe of PJ. I really think this movie is going to be his greatest. I can't wait for it to come out.

Tigerlily Gamgee
09-26-2003, 09:37 PM
Oh my gosh! I just watched the version they have on TORn!!! Oh my gosh!<BR>It's just so wonderful...<BR>I really can't wait to actually see it in the theatre tomorrow night (I'll probably cry!)! I can't believe I'm getting so excited over the trailer, what will I do when it actually comes time for the movie?

Gorwingel
09-27-2003, 02:48 AM
Has everyone been able to download the one on TheOneRing? Because I have tried a few times and have not been able to get it to work. Though I don't think I have been giving it enough time. About how long on average has it been taking?<BR>Right now I am at a sleepover obviously taking a break from the whole social part of it. I really, really, really want to see that trailer <P>EDIT: Ok, I finally got to see it. I thought it absolutely rocked. But I have to know one thing, where in the heck did that one part with Galadriel and Frodo come from? Is it from some kind of dream that he has. Other than that, all the other scenes look really cool. I'm going to go watch it again.<p>[ September 27, 2003: Message edited by: Gorwingel ]

Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1
09-27-2003, 05:14 AM
OH...MY...GOD!!!!<P>I just saw the trailer on OneRing, and yeah it has taken me about 45 minutes to be able to see it but hey.<P>I agree, Shelob is just way too small. She only seems to about as tall as Frodo!!! What is going on here? But the armies looked wonderful...and Éowyn appeared to have given herself a foreign accent as a disguise, I don't know why you people thought she had none....<P>EDIT: Hmmm, I've just realised, that among other things, such as no palantír, Faramir is nowhere to be seen...<p>[ September 27, 2003: Message edited by: Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1 ]

HCIsland
09-27-2003, 07:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> where in the heck did that one part with Galadriel and Frodo come from? Is it from some kind of dream that he has. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It seems a dream sequence to me. A spot I was thinking it might fit well is when Frodo is being held at the top of Cirith Ungol. An image of hope in his darkest hour.<P>As for Shelob, I don't see how you can judge from this brief image. The shot is heavily in perspective, with Frodo well in the forground, so it is hard to determine size, and I don't think you even see all of her.<P>H.C.

Oddwen
09-27-2003, 11:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Faramir is nowhere to be seen...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>There is one shot, he's all in armor and charging on a horse. It's just after Legolas bellowing.<P>And the shots of the Fell Beasties barreling into some riders might include him.

Gorwingel
09-27-2003, 12:18 PM
Well actually the reason that I was so surprised about the scene with Galadriel and Frodo, is that I didn't really expect anything like that. Though it looks like in the film it is going to be a really cool scene.<P>I loved everything they showed. It is really cool. I love that it seems to have a different color palette than the first two movies. Really dark with very vivrant shots of bright color. Aragorn has a really powerful look (maybe that is because he is almost king), and that white room that is in Minas Tirith looks really amazing. Additionally I thought that scene of Gandalf walking through the the distroyed field of battle is really striking. And of course there is nothing you can say about the really last scene and the expression of Sam

arianrod
09-27-2003, 01:24 PM
Oh... my...<P>*wipes away tears* It takes alot for me to cry during a movie. This got me going, and it's only the trailer. I think it's safe to say that we can now put our worries aside; the upcoming movie is going to be wonderful... absolutely wonderful...

Calliope and Linus S. Underhill.
09-27-2003, 05:31 PM
Pleeeeease don't ruin frodo in this movie pleeeease don't ruin sm in the movie.... *keeps beggings for a while*<P>Anyway... well... that was my only important comment <P>Since the One Ring had to take it off till monday I downloaded a chinese version off of kazaa. It's still in English though. I liked this trailer because it didn't have alot of arwen!!! Not that I hate Arwen or anything, but less arwen, more frodo is good for me. I just hope PJ can salvage Frodo and Sam's adorable little personalities in the ROTK, I was very disappointed with them in the Fellowship.<P>The trailer was pretty cool, I can't praise it's awesomeness as I have a huge crush on the book Frodo and the whole thing needs to be able himm before I'm satisfied Shelob was okay, but the sound she made was wierd and she wasn't big enough for me. Maybe it's just the angle.

HCIsland
09-27-2003, 05:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Since the One Ring had to take it off till monday I downloaded a chinese version off of kazaa. It's <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>It sounds like the same trailer that was on OneRing anyway.<P>H.C.

Arwen1858
09-27-2003, 06:17 PM
I went and saw the trailer today!! It was wonderful! Oh, how am I <I>ever</I> going to wait for Decemeber 17?? Seeing the trailer on the big screen was awesome! Oooh, I can't wait!

HCIsland
09-27-2003, 06:30 PM
This is a transcript for those that are having trouble seeing the trailer.<P>Shot of a night scene of the glow of Mordor as seen from a tower of Minas Tirith.<P>Shot of Legolas and Aragorn.<P>Legolas: The eye of the Enemy is moving.<P>Flash shots of The Ring; Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli in a forest; and Gandalf.<P>Shot of Nazguls sweeping down towards Minas Tirith.<P>Shot of Frodo approaching a cave.<P>Elrond(?) (voice-over): The end has come.<P>Shot of Aragorn and Gandalf.<P>Aragorn: Each day Frodo moves closer to Mordor.<P>Shot of a hobbit foot climbing a steep stair.<P>Gandalf: How do we know Frodo is alive?<P>Aragorn: What does your heart tell you?<P>Gandalf smiles slightly.<P>Shot of Frodo and Sam climbing with Minas Morgul glowing below them.<P>Gollum (at the top): Come, master.<P>Shot of the Ring around Frodo’s neck.<P>Gollum: Come to Smeagol.<P>Shot of Gandalf on Shadowfax, atop a wall of Minas Tirith overlooking the forces of Mordor.<P>Elrond (voice-over): This is your test. Every path you have trod through wilderness, through war, has led to this road.<P>Quick shots during the voice-over of morose Arwen on horseback, weary Frodo and Sam, Merry knelling before Theoden at Edoras, Legolas taking aim during battle, torch wielding Aragorn on the Paths of the Dead, and close-up of uncertain looking Frodo.<P>Elrond (voice-over): The Enemy will never let Aragorn come to the throne of Gondor.<P>Quick shots of Arwen on a bridge at Rivendell and a hooded figure approaching the Shards of Narsil.<P>Arwen: It is time.<P>Shots of Narsil being reforged followed by close-up of Arwen and then the reforged sword being given to Aragorn by Elrond.<P>Arwen (voice-over): Give him the sword of the King.<P>Aragorn draws the sword.<P>Elrond: Become who you were born to be.<P>Shot of Gollum by a pool.<P>Gollum: The precious will be ours.<P>Shot of Sam and Frodo.<P>Sam: He means to murder us!<P>Gollum: Never!<P>Frodo: I’m not sending him away! Come, Smeagol.<P>Frodo leads Gollum away and Gollum shoots an evil smile at Sam.<P>Shot of a beacon of green light being shot up from Minas Morgul. Shaking camera on Frodo and Sam watching.<P>Gandalf (voice-over): The board is set. <P>Shot of Nazgul coming flying out of Minas Morgul.<P>Gandalf: The pieces are moving.<P>Shot Nazgul sweeping down on charging calvary in front of Minas Tirith.<P>Legolas: He is here.<P>Shots of The Eye, charging soldiers, Gandalf and Pippin atop a wall at Minas Tirith looking towards Mordor, Aragorn entering the Paths of the Dead, Frodo running through tunnels with Galadriel’s phial as Shelob leaps into the tunnel from behind.<P>Shots of Minas Tirith at night, troops mustering and Aragorn looking at Eowyn.<P>Aragorn (voice-over): I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me.<P>THIS DECEMBER<P>Shots of Gandalf approaching the citadel, Theoden looking grim and Eomer weeping over what looks like Eowyn.<P>Aragorn (voice-over): A day may come when the courage of men fails …<P>THE JOURNEY ENDS<P>Shot of Galadriel reaching down to a bewildered Frodo in a brightly lit forest.<P>Aragorn (voice-over): … and we forsake our friends and break all bounds of fellowship, but it is not this day.<P>Eowyn in armour with Merry in front of her on horseback.<P>Eowyn: Whatever happens, stay with me.<P>Shots of a massive amount of calvary, Aragorn in front of his troops.<P>Aragorn: This day we fight!<P>Shots of Eowyn in armour raising a battle cry, massive amounts of troops, Aragorn raising his sword in front of his army.<P>THERE CAN BE NO TRIUMPH<BR>WITHOUT LOSS<P>Shots of Gandalf walking through the aftermath of battle, Legolas with troops, Aragorn leading his army, Theoden embracing Eowyn, and Gandalf with staff aglow charging into battle.<P>Gandalf (voice-over): All you have to decide is what to do with the time given to you.<P>Merry looking at a fretful Pippin.<P>Merry: We will see The Shire again.<P>NO VICTORY<BR>WITHOUT SUFFERING<P>Shots of Arwen lying on a bed with autumn leaves blowing around and calvary entering the gates of Minas Tirith.<BR>Elrond (voice-over): You gave away your life’s grace.<P>Shot of Elrond walking away from Arwen on a bridge.<P>Elrond: I cannot protect you anymore.<P>Shot of sad Arwen.<P>NO FREEDOM<BR>WITHOUT SACRIFICE<P>Eomer, Gandalf, Legolas and Gimli in the throne room of Minas Tirith.<P>Eomer: We cannot achieve victory through strength of arms.<P>Shot of charging calvary, roaring oliphant, and then Legolas I think riding the trunk.<P>Aragorn: Not for ourselves, but we can give Frodo a chance.<P>Very quick shots of Aragorn charging, Nazgul swooping on calvary, Arwen hugging Elrond, Gandalf fighting, Eowyn removing her helmet, Gollum turning, Legolas charging, soldiers charging, oliphant’s foot coming down, Gandalf approaching Minas Tirith, Frodo clutching his throat, Aragorn looking defeated, and then a fiery lit Sam.<P>Sam: Nooooo!<P>LORD OF THE RINGS: RETURN OF THE KING<P>H.C.

Maéglin
09-27-2003, 11:45 PM
It wouldnt be hard to hide one woman (in armour) in an army of... (6000?) cavalry, especially when they need to ride at great speed, although it does diverse from the book as Dernhelm was supposed to a knight of Theoden. <P>The trailer was magnificant, I mean Gandalf charging towards the Witch King with his staff radiating power was just beautiful.. although why does Minas Morgul have cracks with green steam pouring out? I always imaged Minas Morgul as desolate with fire rather than... green.<P>Does anyone think that Theoden will meet the wildmen in the 'ride of Rohan.' Personally, I doubt it.. but its not that great a loss.

Gorwingel
09-28-2003, 12:03 AM
Well remember in FOTR, when the Ringwraiths rode out of Mordor, and out of that building (was it Minas Morgul?) it was green. So maybe Peter Jackson is just continuing a theme.<P>Oh and thanks H.C. for the transcript <BR>I am getting emotional just reading it <P>Too bad TheOneRing had to remove the tralier. Oh, well, will get to see it soon enough.<p>[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: Gorwingel ]

bloomingmushroom
09-28-2003, 08:03 AM
**may have spoilers**<BR>I went to Secondhand Lions yesterday to see the preview and it was great!!! You do see Shelob's legs for a second or too, but nothing more after that. You see Eowyn as Dernhelm, and Merry bowing down to Theoden.You also see Aragorn going through the Paths of the Dead. It looks incredible!

arianrod
09-28-2003, 08:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli in a forest<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>*squints* looks like the Paths of the Dead to me. <P>Anyway, great transcript!

Cinderella
09-28-2003, 08:21 AM
Saw it in the theatre before 2nd Hand Lions... Yes.. I cried... so sue me <BR>It was worth the nine dollars to see the trailer on the big screen, though take my advice and don't stick around for Secondhand Lions, I did.... it was atrocious. I have never walked out of a movie in my life before last night, everyone in the theatre hated me becasue I couldn't stop laughing <BR>I have to go download the trailer now so I can make sure I didn't miss anything in my complete awe of it...<p>[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: Cinderella ]

Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1
09-28-2003, 08:27 AM
Cheese...I wonder how long it took to put together that transcript? I was a fast moving trailer, after all...<P>Ah yes, I was wondering about green as the choice of colour for Mordor...I had expected it to be fire too. Maybe it's green fire? Like when you burn one of those salts...that has a metal from the transition metals or something...I can't remember my chemistry. Oh well...

Oddwen
09-28-2003, 09:51 PM
As to the green glow, I think that it might be Morgul-magic.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>There came a great red flash...it leapt into the sky and splashed the lowering clouds with crimson. ...<BR>And Minas Morgul answered. There was a flare of livid lightnings: forks of blue flame springing up from the tower...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think that's the green pillar, and as to the green stuff below the hobbits as they are climbing the winding stair:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Down in its depths glimmered like a glow-worm thread the wraith-road from the dead city to the Nameless Pass.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Although it does look very like light coming from fissures.<P>A couple of things I've noticed:<BR>at about 35 seconds in, there's a shot of Legolas, and behind him is a blue banner. Is it of Dol Amroth? I had heard Imrahil was not appearing.<P>And a second or two after that, there's a shot of Aragorn with drawn sword, and what looks like a white bat or cloth passes in front of him. Is it one of the dead?<P>A minute thirty-eight in, Galadriel is offering her hand to Frodo-is that <I>cobwebs</I> on his cloak??<P>About 2:11, Gimli is sitting in the Steward's chair. How disrespectful. Denethor must've insulted Gimli to his face.<BR>"I would burn off your beard, Dwarf, if it stood but a little higher from the ground."<P>And does anyone know who is reforging Narsil? I've heard that it could be Arwen, or Figwit. (!?!?) It's definitely not Elrond.<P>And Arwen lying on a bed: some have said that it's Luthien not Arwen, and I agree it does look like a *very* ill ill Liv, but would it could it be a flashback to Celebrian? Surely questions have been raised about Elrond's wife?<P>[ September 29, 2003: Message edited by: Oddwen ]<p>[ September 29, 2003: Message edited by: Oddwen ]

Arwen1858
09-28-2003, 11:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I am getting emotional just reading it <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>hmm... sounds like me And I did cry while watching the preview in theatres Saturday. <BR>I think that person lying on the bed must be Arwen. The dress she's wearing is a dress you see Arwen wearing in a lot of pictures, and it's the dress she's wearing in the quick shot in the trailer where she starts to hug Elrond.

HCIsland
09-29-2003, 06:59 AM
About Shelob.<P>Take a look at this still from the trailer. Is it just me or is what we are seeing only the head?<P><A HREF="http://img-nex.theonering.net/movie/preview/images/rotk_trailer01_081.jpg" TARGET=_blank>Shelob From Trailer</A><P>H.C.

peonydeepdelver
09-29-2003, 06:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Take a look at this still from the trailer. Is it just me or is what we are seeing only the head? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, spiders aren't much more than legs, a head, and an abodomen... Yeah though, it only looks like her head and front legs. I really thought she would be darker in color than that though...

The Saucepan Man
09-29-2003, 07:04 PM
At last! I have eventually managed to download the trailer - only about 2 days behind everyone else. <P>I've had to sit impatiently at work all day because the darned system there doesn't have Quicktime. Then I had to sit patiently at home while I downloaded the latest version of Quicktime. And then I had to sit impatiently for 2 hours while the trailer itself downloaded. 2 hours! I really must get Broadband. <P>Still, it was certainly worth the wait. I managed to get the official version of the trailer and download a rather more blurred version to my memory. Alas, I will have to give up the higher resolution version when I log-off tonight. <P>It's the little details that I liked. For example, Sauron's army pouring out of Minas Morgul in the background as Frodo climbs to the pass of Cirith Ungol. And the spikes on the Oliphaunt's tusks. The Nazgul swooping on (what I assume to be) Faramir's men is amazing, as is the shot of Gandalf presumably riding out to aid them. Well, as other have said, it all looks pretty amazing really.<P>Which brings me to Shelob. Even though the glimpse was brief, I am still disappointed that we have seen so much of her before the film's release. (Of course, I could have turned away, but that would have taken far too much will-power. )<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Take a look at this still from the trailer. Is it just me or is what we are seeing only the head? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>From the higher resolution version of the trailer, it looks like we see her head and legs, with her vast dark abdomen trailing behind her. Which is as it should be. It is difficult to tell, but I don't think that I am going to be disappointed. She certainly looks big enough. <P>A few concerns though. She looks only to have two eyes, and a mouth with teeth rather than fangs, which is not how I imagined her. But, it's difficult to tell for sure - even going through frame by frame. And why is she chasing Frodo when he is holding up the Phial of Galadriel? I would have thought that it would repel her.<P>Oh well, small quibbles. From the trailer, it certainly looks like it's going to be an epic.

Elennar Starfire
11-05-2003, 07:22 PM
I agree that it looks like only half of Shelob, and even if it is all of her, I don't think it is too small. Shelob can't be too big, she has to be killed by Sam.<P>Now that I have got myself to the subject of Sam, what do you think of that yell at the end? I think it is inside Mount Doom, but why is he yelling? Does this confirm the rumour that Frodo falls into Mount Doom? I certainly hope not.<P>The palantir is in RotK, I saw a picture of Aragorn holding a bundle just the right size and shape to be a wrapped-up palantir.<P>I absolutely <I>loved</I> the scene with the diving Nazgul. It looks so cool! And also the scene where Aragorn gets Anduril. And-...well, I loved the whole thing.

HCIsland
11-05-2003, 08:14 PM
Not that I think there is anyone left, but in case some still think Shelob is too small click <A HREF="http://elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/rotk/misc/images/vc_008.jpg" TARGET=_blank>here</A>. That's Sam <B>under</B> Shelob.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Does this confirm the rumour that Frodo falls into Mount Doom? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sorry, but that's utter nonsense. There is not indication of this happening. You should stop listening to people that are making stuff up and guessing.<P>I would suspect Sam is yelling because of Frodo's claiming of the Ring and not throwing it in.<P>H.C.

Eowyn:Lady of Rohan
11-05-2003, 08:31 PM
I am really excited to see ROTK. I really believe it will be awesome to see Sam wound Shelob with Sting and the gift of Galadriel. What I am really looking forward to is to see Eowyn kick butt on the Witch King.

Kyle
11-05-2003, 08:42 PM
I have seen it more then once, and it is just great!

Elfchick7
11-05-2003, 10:03 PM
ya'll, if you have quicktime then you can downloadthe trailer from <A HREF="http://www.lordoftherings.net" TARGET=_blank>www.lordoftherings.net</A> they do show Shelob but you can only tell what is it if you have read the books. The trailer is awesome!!! See it if you can.