[MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie]

Well, I think it all depends on whether that person read's the books (and enjoys them for that matter). If they do, then I would call them 'proper' Tolkien fans. But until they read the books and enjoy them, I refrain from calling them 'proper' Tolkien fans. And they do have to enjoy them, because if they don't then they are movie fans, and not Tolkien fans. But I think of those who are Tolkien fans introduced by the movies as 'not-properly-introduced' Tolkien fans. I myself fall into that category , but not through the films by PJ, but by the one by Ralph Bakshi.<P>And Birdland, those books that you enjoy more than the movie, which came first, the book or the movie? Or do you like most books better, and it doesn't matter which came first? I beilive which one came first can make a difference.