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Old 07-16-2004, 02:30 AM   #45
The Saucepan Man
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The Saucepan Man has been trapped in the Barrow!
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I believe that Sam used only the Phial to get past the Watchers.
Yes, so Estel and Essex reminded me. Thanks for highlighting my ignorance once more.


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He does in the game, and that would be the only thing that would explain why they believe Frodo is dead. Also, what other purpose would the Mouth serve, if he didn’t have tokens to show them?
Yes, I agree. But my point still stands. How does the Mouth get hold of the Mithril Shirt and knowledge of the Hobbits when Shagrat gets skewered by Sam and there appear to be no other Orcs left alive in the Tower? It is possible that Shagrat escapes in the EE, although that would be quite a big change. Or it may just be left as a plot hole ...
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